Tbta 2065

[jmoy]

Hi, Does anyone here have any updated information regarding the TBTA exam 2065 for BTO. It's taking forever. Are they on a hiring freeze? Last I checked with DCAS they are at 799 but it's been like that for a few months now. Thanks.

[RomanArts]

hey Jmoy last i heard thats dcas is not really correct either but i dont even know to be honest with you i am also waiting for the job wat list number are u?

[jmoy]

Hey Roman, I'm in the 1000 - 1010 range. Do you know if there is a class in progress now? I have been checking DCAS like every other month and the number hasn't changed since last year. What is your list number? I hope they hire more before the list expires in 07. Thanks for the reply. Also does any one know what the PT requirements are for TBTA? Is there a 1.5 mile run, push ups, sit ups, etc... etc.... Thanks in advance.

[RomanArts]

jmoy i am higher up there in the early 1400's havent heard about any classes i did my year as a temp and got to know a lot of people that work there, as far as pt i heard its really nothing and the academy there is no pt you more of a classroom atmosphere, pretty much the penal code the fire training the toll collecting and the firearms. As far as i know there should be more classes a lot of bto's are retiring and there are sergeant and leutenant exams coming in the near future

[jmoy]

Thanks for the info Roman. Which plaza were you temping at? I was at the VNB. Hated that brown uniform and that bright orange hat.

[VACOP1]

TBTA? What is that

[RomanArts]

hahaha i hated the uniform as well but i was tempting at TBM and i loved it there itsliterally 10 minutes form my house cause i live in astoria, queens.
Man oh man were they getting me on those doubles when we had high alert.lol

[jmoy]

TBTA? What is that


Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority. They are part of the MTA but are not MTA Police. They patrol and collect revenues on MTA Bridges and Tunnels in NYC. Triborough, Verrazzano Bridge, Midtown Tunnel, Marine Park Bridge, Battery Tunnel, etc. etc. They are armed peace officers.

[VACOP1]

ok never heard of them before, thank you for the reply

[jmoy]

Welcome. Here's more info.

http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/bridgeandtunnelofficer.pdf

[VACOP1]

you have to be 18 to apply, then you cannot carry a gun. I NY you have to be atleast 21.

[RomanArts]

Actually even though you are 18, you still do carry your gun like any other officer upon completion of academy and and your probationary period which is a total of 6 months from the date of hire. I was working with a kid that was 19 years old and he was carrying.

[jmoy]

Finally got my orientation letter. Anyone know what I should be expecting that day? It will be 4 hours long. Will I be going through a physical, drugtest, and psych on the same day? or is it just a bunch of paperwork? The package didn't give much details. Thanks for any info.

[RomanArts]

Hey Jmoy Whats up its Roman again. I've got a couple of questions for you if u can please respond to me.

[ChrisF202]

I thaught you had to be 20 to be a cop in NYS?

See here on Suffolk Sheriff website for Deputy Sheriff I:
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=36&id=1941

Graduation from a standard senior high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma recognized by New York State Department of Education by date of appointment. No substitution of experience for education will be permitted. U.S. citizenship required at time of appointment. The minimum age to participate in this examination is 19 years and 6 months by date of the written test. Pursuant to Section 54 of the Civil Service Law, applicants who are within six months of the minimum age will be permitted into the competition. Candidates shall not be considered for appointment until they reach their 20th birthday.

[jmoy]

UPDATE FOR 2065

Passed Drug Test.

Passed DCAS investigator background check.

Took the Physical and the Interview Today and I passed.

Psyc on Monday 9/18

Medical on Thursday 9/21

Expected Class date of 28 candidates will be in Oct. If I don't make it to the one in Oct then there will be another class of 28 going in Jan. Good luck to all who are going through the process.

[jmscat14]

Hey Jmoy, did u hear anything yet on the BTO.I finished all the testing, I haven't heard anything yet. My list number is between 950 and 1000. I heard that the next class is going to be in Oct but when.

[Dinosaur32]

Chris....What you quoted is the department's policy. we have Court Officer Trainees carrying who are not yet 21 and graduated the Academy at 20.

[RomanArts]

Party people party people... well I was just browsing on the DCAs website and i see that there is another test for tbta officers on may 17, 2007 which means this list is coming to an end. Lets see what happends now.

[salc0025]

TBTA officers are now Police Officers and not peace officers. A few years ago they passed a bill in NY that changed their status from Peace Officers to Police Officers. its pretty much the same bill that is trying to get passed to give NYC Correction Offices Police Officer status rather then their current Peace Officer status.

[Dinosaur32]

Sorry salc0025, but TBTA Officers are still classified as Peace Officers. See Criminal Procedure Law, Section 2.10 (20).

[Jayc6018]

Ok so TBTA officers can't execute warrants the job function of peace officers and police officers are pretty much the same.

[Dinosaur32]

Jayc6018.......pretty much that is the difference between Peace and Police Officers, especially the larger uniformed agencies.

[RomanArts]

Finally got my envelope from TBTA its been 4 years of waiting around, hoping i can pass all of that background and stuff, I have 3 moving violations in past 6 years, 2 were in like 2000 and this last one i was this march but non of them are speeding. Any advice or suggestions.

[seanbps]

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[RomanArts]

hey bud there is a test coming up starts filling actually somewhere in february for the BTO's so GOOD LUCK

[DPS55]

WOW!!! I always thoght 21 was the minimum age everywhereI thaught you had to be 20 to be a cop in NYS?

See here on Suffolk Sheriff website for Deputy Sheriff I:
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=36&id=1941

[Qnsguy718]

The guys that took exam 2065 have not all been hired. The list will expire once filing begins for the 2007 exam. I think they have hired about 5 to 7 classes off of that exam, thats about 100 to 140 guys. Im not sure of the actual number. There are alot of people who took that exam that havent and will not ever be called. I have been with them for about 4 years now and its an okay job.

[DPS55]

The guys that took exam 2065 have not all been hired. The list will expire once filing begins for the 2007 exam. I think they have hired about 5 to 7 classes off of that exam, thats about 100 to 140 guys. Im not sure of the actual number. There are alot of people who took that exam that havent and will not ever be called. I have been with them for about 4 years now and its an okay job.
whats the info on that job site?

[nyc2235]

you have to be 21 to purchase a firearm with a pistol permit. Law enforcement agencies that hire officers below 21 give those officers some sort of document that is presented to a firearms dealer that exempts you from federal age restriction laws. However you must be atleast 18 years old to be certified as a NYS Peace officer. NYS Courts and TBTA are the only 2 departments in NYS that allow officers under 20 years of age to carry firearms. What ****es me off (im 18 btw and plan on joining TBTA/Courts) is that im old enough to and will carry a firearm and have the authority, take someones civil liberties away, but I cant have a drink with the boys after a tough night if I wanted to because im not 21.

[gingerbaker]

I'm in line for next exam for BTO.
Do they have to carry off duty like other officers?
I hope not.

[Dinosaur32]

These days almost no agencies mandate off duty carry, for the most part it is permissive.

[ftdtetr]

Are BTOs on a 20 year retirement and due they take laterals?

[nyc2235]

I think its 20 years of service and at age 55. No laterals, MTAPD accept laterals.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I registered for the May 19, 2007 exam, but I don't have a license yet, I'm in the process of getting one, but that brings to mind my question, when do they check your qualifications? does anybody know? and whats the cycle on the test like every four years? every year?


and does anybody have a detailed picture of a TBTA uniform ive been trying to find one.


well if anybody could help thatd be great , thanks

- Andrew

[nyc2235]

"I registered for the May 19, 2007 exam, but I don't have a license yet, I'm in the process of getting one, but that brings to mind my question, when do they check your qualifications? does anybody know? and whats the cycle on the test like every four years? every year?


and does anybody have a detailed picture of a TBTA uniform ive been trying to find one.


well if anybody could help thatd be great , thanks

- Andrew"

They check your qualifications during your backround investigation, after you pass the exam, and they reach your list number, they give the BTO exam every 4 years.

The BTO uniform is the same as the NYPD uniform except their patches look like this http://www.patchdepartment.com/nyc/images/tbta-gib.jpg

and their shields look like this http://i.b5z.net/i/u/586639/i/TB-TA.gif


they carry glock 19's on duty, and off-duty they carry glock 26's.
here the union page, to see their dress uniforms go to "law enforcement awards" www.btoba.tripod.com

heres a picture of their cars. http://transitport.50webs.com/tbta.html

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Wow, thanks!


Any tips to help me study for the exam?
My neighbor whos a TBTA officer told me that it's just like the NYPD exam and to go to Barnes & Noble and just pick up a police exam study guide and it would do wonders, But I wanted to know if anybody who took the exam has any advice.


thanks again,

- Andrew

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Sorry I'll be more specific "took the exam recently".



thanks again.

[ftdtetr]

how long is their academy?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I think its three months. Not sure though

[ftdtetr]

through the nypd academy or someplace else? I have friends and family taking the next test.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

They have a training academy on Randall's Island I believe, near the FDNY training facilities, where I blieve TBTA also does a couple of days training on car fire procedures.

[RomanArts]

Ok I am currently in the hiring process. I am done with all my testing, did the physical , medical psych and the drug test. I also did the temp BTO for a year. The current academy is 13 weeks and it is located on Randalls Island. You are a New York state peace officer. You do carry on and off duty but off duty is not mandated. Now eventhough I am going through a hiring process I am still taking this 2007 exam. Its a small agency so you have to score high I took the test in 2003 scored 86% was number 14xx out of 11,000 and they called me in december for orientation and physical was jan 06. So good luck to everyone, if anyone has any questions just ask in this thread.

[nyc2235]

Roman, can you tell me what the physical requirements/exam is? and also what steps do you have left in the process?

[RomanArts]

NYC as far as the hiring process i am pretty much done. Whats happening now is some of the people that went through the process including me didnt make it into this feb 12th class now since we are done with everything but they already had 28 people for the class we are all just waiting till the next class which should be sometime this June 2007. What happend was some of our final background check wasnt completed in time because thats done by DCAS. UMM as far as the physical part its the trigger pull, tha stair climb and the .65 mile run which has to be completed in 7:30 min. The truth is I heard they are going to make this new physical for the new list much harder.

[nyc2235]

any word on this new physical, please give us a heads up.


good luck by the way, and I wish you well in the academy.

[nyc2235]

heres some info I got about 20 minutes ago from NYC DCAS in an email from the commissioners office.


"For the current list on the subject title, Exam No. 2065, the number of the last eligible certified was 1436, and the number of the last eligible appointed was 1079. A review indicates that 14, 758 applicants filed for this examination."



not bad.

[jmscat14]

Hey Romanarts, You Think There Is Going To Be A Class In June. Where Did U Hear That.is That For Sure. Thanks

[RomanArts]

JMSCAT Thats the word out there now as far as how sure I am. I dont even knwo what tot ell you , nothing is ever for sure with them lol. So good luck have your fingers crossed and thats pretty much it. I did however file for the new exam just in case.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

i filed for the exam in may too

[Hpool403]

Does anyone know when the next exam would be? Not this one the next one?

[RomanArts]

The Exam Is Every Four Years So Four Years From This Year

[Ant61683]

Roman i signed up for the exam, i was wondering what was your score that you received so i know when i get my results months from now i'll know if i even have a shot..

im striving to get nothing less than a 95.. but who knows

[RomanArts]

Ant my score wasnt all that it was just an 86 and I am number 14xx and it took them four years to get to me. So the higher the better good luck and its not a hard test just use ur common sense.

[Ant61683]

thanks for the information.. i bought a little study book just to see what kinds of questions they'll be asking .. Im looking to get nothing under a 90 ,
or hopefully higher...

[jmscat14]

Hey, Romanarts Do You Know If They Call You Or Do They Send You A Letter Saying That Your In The Next Class.how Many Days Or Weeks Before They Let You Know When Your In. I'm Not Sure If You Know But It Is Worth A Shot. Thanks Dude

[RomanArts]

Hey J. I personally haven't got the call yet, but from what I know they told us that they would call two weeks in advance and then again I know a couple of people that were called that thursday or friday to show up for academy on monday. They do however call the only time u get the letter is if you failed something. So good luck

[jmoy]

I'm back! Graduated Jan 29th. Good luck to everyone in the current class and to the folks taking the next exam. Words of advice for when you make it to the academy. Pay attention, Don't be late for anything, and don't ever fall asleep and you will be okay. Good Luck!


BTW..... BTO's retire with 20/50 not 55

[RomanArts]

Jmoy congrats buddy by the way what facility are you on?

[Ant61683]

I'm taking the test in may ,i hope that i do good... Would be nice to get on such a nice job .

[Jayc6018]

Yeah I'll be there for the May exam also, good luck guys

[Cadet2020]

For those taking the next TBTA exam..what does the exam consist of...?

[Ant61683]

Do you happen to know where the test is held ? or does it depend on where you live ??

[RomanArts]

the exam is just like any other PD exam memorization, common sense blah blah yadda yadda, the test is held throughout the city i took mine in flushing and i live in astoria so figure they will put u closer to home.

[Ant61683]

thats cool.. i dont mind where the test is.. im looking forward to taking it !

How long after the test is given do you find out your score ???

[jmoy]

They will mail you your score and list number. I forgot how long it took them to mail it to me but it wasn't too long after the written test. The long part was waiting to be called. Make sure you score well on the written exam and you won't have to wait as long as I did. Good Luck.

[Ant61683]

thanks jmoy .. i hope i do as well...

[Ant61683]

Does anyone know what the physical agility test consists of ??

[jmscat14]

Hey Ant,dont Worry About The Physical Agility Test Because Its Cake. Trigger Pull,run .65 Miles In 7 1/2 Minutes, Run Up Two Flights Of Stairs And I Think Something Else. Thats For This Test(2065). I Heard That They Might Make It Harder Next Test.

[jmscat14]

Hey Roman, Did You Hear Anything Else About A Class Going In For June. I Heard It From Someone Else Besides You.

[RomanArts]

No unfortunatly I havent jmscat14, I sure wish I did. I spoke to human resources department about 2 weeks ago to check on my status and they weren't able to provide me with any details other then you are fine from what we see and that they dont knwo when the next class is going in. I heard froma couple of people its in june but noone knows the actual date. So I have no other choice but to sit back do my thing and wait till like mid may, thats whne I would call and try again to find something out. I just dont want to bother them that often. By the way are you on 2065 list or what? Where do you stand on this whole thing.

[Ant61683]

just a few more weeks and the new test arrives.. can't wait !!! I hope the BTA isn't anything like the Court Officers... they're slow... like snails pace...

[RomanArts]

unfortunatly i hate to disappoint you Ant but its the same thing since its dont by DCAS. DCAS conducts the test and establishes the list.

[Ant61683]

yes roman but the dcas is a loooot faster.. and the courts is done by the state.. not DCAS..

[Dinosaur32]

Court Officer hiring is done entirely by the Courts. Remember we are a separate branch of the government, not an agency.

[RomanArts]

Sooooooooo has anyone heard anything new so far?

[jmscat14]

Yoo, Roman

[RomanArts]

whats up Joeeeeeeee, whats going on got any news for me?

[RomanArts]

YO Joe where did u disappear to man? oh ok I got you , you are probably riding ur bike u bastage lol by Robert Moses building or something.

[jmscat14]

yoo, roman , i did a buck 50 on ocean pkwy, owesome dude,u i got great news.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Hey, did anyone get the admission card for exam 6091 yet ?

just wondering because I haven't seen squat yet and I've been waiting for it , I guess it's true a watched pot doesn't boil.


well just let me know.

[RomanArts]

Neuro I believe you get the admission card 1 week prior to the exam.

[RomanArts]

Neuro I believe you get the admission card 1 week prior to the exam.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Thanks a lot ,

It's just I want this to work out for me so I've been very eager.

[Ant61683]

Just do real well on the written and they'll probably call you first class !

[RomanArts]

I actually just found the announcement for the job and it says we should get the admission card in the mail 10 days prior to the exam

[jmscat14]

Dps55, How Many Days Or Weeks Did Tbta Let You Know When You Got The Job, To Report To 2 Broadway.thanks

[DPS55]

i couldnt tell you I havnt applied nor do I work there. Sorry

[Ant61683]

I received my notice of admission today... i take the exam at 10:00 am on the 19th. In Manhattan on east 15st

Good Luck to all that applied !

[Cadet2020]

Received mine today....Sat 10am....May 19

[RomanArts]

Yup received mine as well and its on the 19th obviously but 3:30, east 15th. thank you and good luck

[DPS55]

what is the status, authority, and jurisdiction of TBTA Police?

[RomanArts]

Peace Officer status , Carry on/ off duty, Jurisdiction state of New York

[Cadet2020]

How is the exam for those that have taken it...is it like the NYPD?

[RomanArts]

Yeah Cadet pretty much like NYPD, There is a book that you can buy as well.

[Ant61683]

Might be a pretty dumb question .. But i have to ask , How many questions are usually on the exam..

because the FDNY changed theirs this year i was wondering if other agencies would follow suit.. ?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I got my admission card, the 19th 10 am

[RomanArts]

Yeah so I am not going to take the exam this saturday good luck to everyone though and keep hope aliveee

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Roman , why aren't you taking the exam on sat.? , if you don't mind me asking

[RomanArts]

Not at all Neuro, but the reason why I am not talking it is because I got a call today and I am starting Academy on June 4th with them. I have been waiting for this for 4 years now and it finally came so keep hope alive and good luck to all

[KayWhy]

i too got called yesterday for the june 4th class, finally and its the last class there given on this list, i should have been in a couple of classes sooner but my investigation papers were lost, thankfully i called to check my status, and tbta said the never got the completion of my investigation, then i called my investigator and she said she mailed it out months ago...i finally got the bottom of it but now ill have all these people with higher list numbers with more seniority...well if thats my biggest worry who cares

[RomanArts]

KayWhy dont worry u going to get your seniority back. It still goes by the list number.

[Cadet2020]

hey Kay...what did you score on the last TBTA exam.....?

[jmscat14]

Hey, Romanarts Congrats I'll See You And Kay On Jun 4, And Dont Feel Bad Kay Because I Was Supposed To Be In The Oct 2006 Class But I Got Disqualified But I Appeal It And I Won So I'm In The Jun 4 Class. I'm Glad U Made It. My List Number Was Between 940 And 950.hey Kay Let Me Know If Me And U Should Have Been In The Oct Class Together.

[KayWhy]

my list number was 1223, hey roman you got a handsfree for your phone lol, i didnt think i was gonna make it...its the last class....did fernando make it

[RomanArts]

Kevin? No Fernando didnt make it he is appealing man he got DQed by the shrink? Let me know who u are!!!

[Jayc6018]

Why were you guys Dq'ed? or the reason if you don't mind me asking. Glad you guys appealed, because sometimes the admin can totally get it wrong but I know the Dq's are using for personal grudges and shi%t

[nyc2235]

Hey guys, I put the wrong social security number on the scantron today, how would I go about fixing that?

[Jayc6018]

Hey guys, I put the wrong social security number on the scantron today, how would I go about fixing that?

Ahh knowing your S.S# is like breathing, how could you possibly forget to put the wrong s.s on the scan tron?

wow you must of been the guy sitting next to me today. Did you take your exam at Lehman?

[RomanArts]

Well I wasn't DQ'ed but my buddy that was a temp with me got DQ'ed on the psych exam, as for the reason I am not quuite sure why.

[Jayc6018]

Well I wasn't DQ'ed but my buddy that was a temp with me got DQ'ed on the psych exam, as for the reason I am not quuite sure why.

Is the psych exam oral or written? I would rather the oral as to the written they like to trip you up with alot of the same questions phrased in different ways.

[RomanArts]

Jay I dotn think u can fail written you can only get DQ'ed after u have met the psych for oral

[RomanArts]

Sorry Jay I misread you question ok in order for you to get hired an dhave to take written and then oral psych where u get to explain some of your answers or if the psych has questions for you. You gotta do both and its always written then oral.

[nyc2235]

"wow you must of been the guy sitting next to me today. Did you take your exam at Lehman?"


no I noticed it was the wrong number when I got home, I had written it down and it looked like a 3 when it was a 5.

[Ant61683]

To be honest i took that exam today and i thought it was easy as ****... (10 am class at Health Profession & Human Serv)...

NYC.. i don't know how your gonna go about fixing that... they might not let you .. Call up DCAS on monday and see what they say ...

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

The exam today was insanely easy.

[Jayc6018]

Yeah the test was easy however I didn't go in there with that attitude. The things you think are easy turns around and bits you when you get your scores back because you thought you did well on the exam. Given that good look fellas

oh yeah that memorization part at the beginning was an insult.

I mean come on that was toooo easy.

[Ant61683]

we just have to wait a few weeks till they post the answers on DCAS site.. i think i might have got One of the memorization wrong .. the other 8 questions were very simple... But we'll have to wait ...


My one question is now after we get the results in a few weeks how quick are they with the processes ??? do they start right away or do you wait forever ???

[RomanArts]

ANT I want to say one thing I took the 2065 exam which was given june, 2003 and I scored an 87% which wasnt good nor was it bad. Now 4 years down the line I am starting academy on june 4th which is in 2 weeks. That should tell you something.

[Ant61683]

Yea i guess they take there time.. Well all we can do is hope for the best .. thank you for the info ...

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I went in fearing that Id do horrible

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

on the memorization one did you get the question about how many lanes were visible wrong?

[Stackit02]

on the memorization one did you get the question about how many lanes were visible wrong?

I answered 9. I am not sure if this is what they were exactly asking, but I put 9 because there were 6 ezpass lanes and 3 cash lanes. That was one I was confused on.

Also the other question I was confused on is what car would you most likely pull over for saftey reasons? (not sure of the exact wording) but I chose the motorcycle with a side car. Anyone else put these answers?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

i picked the truck.

[Jayc6018]

I answered 9. I am not sure if this is what they were exactly asking, but I put 9 because there were 6 ezpass lanes and 3 cash lanes. That was one I was confused on.

Also the other question I was confused on is what car would you most likely pull over for saftey reasons? (not sure of the exact wording) but I chose the motorcycle with a side car. Anyone else put these answers?

Yeah I put the motorcycle with the side car, it was the only logical answer lol

and btw there were 9 lanes visible. It was really 10 but that choice wasn't given, the 10th lane was in the opposite direction. at the end of the page on the left hand side

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

In all seriousness......




how many motorcycles with sidecars do you see in NYC now-a-days?

[Jayc6018]

In all seriousness......




how many motorcycles with sidecars do you see in NYC now-a-days?

Very rare if any

[Stackit02]

Very rare if any

That is the exact reason why I picked the motorcycle with the side car. All other answers you see daily. The motorcycle stood out.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

...touche...

[Cadet2020]

hmm...i picked the truck...but it wasnt just a truck...i forgot why i picked it ..lol

[Stackit02]

hmm...i picked the truck...but it wasnt just a truck...i forgot why i picked it ..lol

It was a "new york post truck"... Seemed non-important to me. Why would they stress a new york post truck?

[Ant61683]

The Motorcycle is def. wrong.. I put the truck

I also picked 9 lanes..

there were also 2 cash only lanes..

[Jayc6018]

Sorry guys but you got duped on that answer. There were 9 visible lanes, 3 cash 6 ez pass.

And yes it was a New York Post truck. Now think why would that cause a problem? I could see if they said it was a truck of a certain height.

The motorcycle with the sidecar is the right answer

[Ant61683]

JayC there were only 2 cash lanes bro...

If i only got one question wrong on the memorization then it's all good..

[Stackit02]

JayC there were only 2 cash lanes bro...

If i only got one question wrong on the memorization then it's all good..

There were actually 3 cash lanes. You are probably thinking of the two black boxes that said cash only that were typed manually, but there were 3 lanes that had the original cash signs on them plus 6 lanes with ez-pass signs on them.

[Jayc6018]

There were actually 3 cash lanes. You are probably thinking of the two black boxes that said cash only that were typed manually, but there were 3 lanes that had the original cash signs on them plus 6 lanes with ez-pass signs on them.

Exactly because they specifically asked the question "how many lanes accepts cars only"

The answer was 2.

There were 9 lanes all together with 3 being Cash and 6 being ez pass.

[RomanArts]

I just want to put my 2 cents into this discussion and want to make something clear to you guys. TBTA doesnt have specific lanes for cars or trucks therefore all the lanes accomodate both. There are NO CAR ONLY LANES, ALL LANES TAKE BOTH TRUCKS AND CARS.

[Ant61683]

LOLOL... sorry guys your correct.. im confusing myself with the two questions...

my apologies ! :o

[Jayc6018]

I just want to put my 2 cents into this discussion and want to make something clear to you guys. TBTA doesnt have specific lanes for cars or trucks therefore all the lanes accomodate both. There are NO CAR ONLY LANES, ALL LANES TAKE BOTH TRUCKS AND CARS.

Yeah we know that but we just talking about what the question specifically asked on the test.

[RomanArts]

sorry guys lol I think i just put more confusion in there lool

[Ant61683]

I think next Monday is when they release the Answer key, if i remember correctly..

[Ant61683]

How many did everyget right ?

i got 10 wrong

[Stackit02]

I got 3 wrong. DAMN #'s 40, 73, and 79

thats frustrating

[caroline816]

Hi,
This is my first post on this site. I was just wondering if anyone knew if the questions all counted equally, making them about 1.17 points each or are they graded some other way? I got 8 wrong...it was my first test.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

i got 10 wrong

[Ant61683]

I think they would have a different point set-up than just making it all equal points...

Usually you get more points than the rest for the memorization .. [B]But im not sure how the B&T will award the points [/B}

most of us did good..

[nyc2235]

on the exam booklet it said all questions are worth the same amount of points which is 1.17 each.

I got 6 wrong.

[jmoy]

MTA test cheaters?

BY PETE DONOHUE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Monday, June 11th 2007, 4:00 AM

Some job seekers who took a Civil Service exam to be MTA security officers may have had a copy of the test in advance, the Daily News has learned.

The News obtained a copy of what appears to be the exam from an anonymous caller who alleged it was posted on the Internet before the test was administered May 19.

"If that test got out ahead of time, I would think they'd have to throw out the results," said Joseph Mauro, president of the Bridge and Tunnel Officers Benevolent Association. "It would be a major screwup."

The Citywide Administrative Services Department has launched a probe and alerted the Department of Investigation. The city administers Civil Service exams for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

Bridge and tunnel officers are not police officers, but they do carry guns, enforce laws and make arrests. MTA Bridges and Tunnels has 787 officers. The officers, who also collect tolls, made more than 1,800 arrests last year, Mauro said.

Approximately 90 bridge and tunnel officers are hired a year. The current list of potential hires expires later this year, necessitating the May exam, officials said. The test was given at five city high schools, Citywide Administrative Services Department spokesman Mark Daly said.

Test administrators are supposed to collect all booklets after a test is given, the city department said. The department had planned to tinker with the questions in the May exam for future use but now may have to shelve that idea.

"The document forwarded to us today [by a News reporter] appears to be a copy of the test booklet," the department said in a statement Friday.

"We are reviewing this matter," the statement read. "At this juncture, we have no evidence that the integrity of the exam was compromised."

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

are you kidding, they might throw out the list ???

[Ant61683]

Yes, i read that article in the Daily News.. They have no proof yet that actually happened.. Lets just hope it's people being paranoid.. i really dont want to do this over again !!!

I would also file such a lawsuit .....

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

well that ruined my day lol

[Ant61683]

Did anyone go to the Walk-in protest today at 26 washington st ?

Not many people showed up when i was there only 2 of us

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I didn't get to go, what happened?

[Tor319]

i got 4 wrong on this test so that comes out to a score of 95.29

i already assumed this test was going to be thrown out and redone due to the printing error

which btw if you noticed the 2nd question that was supposed to be in error was printed the same exact way on the supplemental sheet as it was in the test booklet

but i think that reporter is full of **** and is sensationalizing this as he received a copy of the test book but no specification as to when he received it hence someone probably snagged a book after they took the test and sent it to the daily news then which means they are just spinning it like this to create controversy which wouldn't surprise me in the least bit

[Jayc6018]

Ahh thanks for spoiling my dreams with that article :(

I got my results and I got 2 wrong :D :eek:

[jmoy]

Did not mean to spoil anyones dreams or ruin anyone's day. Just wanted to inform you guys about what I read in the papers since it was in reference to the test that you guys took. I hope all did well on the test and I hope they won't throw out the results. Good luck to all.

[VACOP1]

Bridge and tunnel officers are not police officers, but they do carry guns, enforce laws and make arrests. MTA Bridges and Tunnels has 787 officers. The officers, who also collect tolls, made more than 1,800 arrests last year, Mauro said.

Then what are they Peace Officers????

[jmoy]

We are NYS Peace Officers.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Probe Leak Of Copies of BTO Exam Booklet

By REUVEN BLAU
The city's testing agency is investigating how job applicants obtained copies of last month's Bridge and Tunnel Officer exam during the answer key protest period. "We are reviewing this matter and have notified the Inspector General of our agency," said Mark Daly, the spokesman for the Department of Citywide Administrative Services.








Also I wanted to know what do you think the list numbers will be like???


im awaiting responses here lol, dont keep me waiting

[Jayc6018]

Bridge and tunnel officers are not police officers, but they do carry guns, enforce laws and make arrests. MTA Bridges and Tunnels has 787 officers. The officers, who also collect tolls, made more than 1,800 arrests last year, Mauro said.

Then what are they Peace Officers????


Yeah they are Peace Officers but here in NY I see a lot of people like the play on the status of some agencies, Only difference between a Police Officer and a Peace Officer is that Police officers can execute warrants along with court officers. Thats about it but other wise the job function is pretty much the same.

TBTA officers carry off duty, they make arrest and all of that.

Although most of NYPD's finest like to think they are the only game in town other agencies with peace officer status make more than NYPD.

Hell you have the NYC Deputy Sheriffs and they are classified as peace officers, why I do not know because they too can execute a warrant on civil matters. Their functions are identical to the NYPD's, hell I've seen a couple of Deputy Sheriffs pull folk over and ticket them.

So I don't know to me Peace officer and Police officer and basically the same its

[ftdtetr]

The whole police officer vs peace officer things is overrated, what is more important is the actual scope of your work, police officers do get much more training. In the cpl it is listed exactly what agencies are police and what agencies are peace officers, and who can carry, many possibly most peace officers can NOT carry but within thier G.A.O.E. they still can still arrest etc. and for the most part nobody is trying to do stuff outside of thier "work area" unless its some type of emergency or major crime, they will just notify whoever is responsible for that area.
A dentist is still a doctor but unless a guy is hurt in front of him in front of him he sticks to working on teeth.

[Jay-P]

I got 13 wrong so I hope that they do throw out this test! I`ll never be called with that many wrong!

[Ant61683]

I got 10 wrong on mine.. They messed up on a couple of questions on my answer key , so when the final score comes back i should get atleast a 90 or 92 ....

Does anyone have an idea when they'll mail us the Final scores ????

[nyc2235]

The results should be mailed out either this month or next month, but be advised the eligible list has already been established.


When I took the NYPD exam I called up APD 2 days after I scored my exam using the answer key and found my list number out (keep in mind the answer key was published 3 weeks after the exam).


Why should it be thrown out, just because you didnt do as good as you hoped, everyone else should get f@#ked? That's what happens with exams, someone has to do worse in order for others to be hired, suck it up and take the next test. You were/are found unfit for the position of BTO if they do not get to you.

You cannot go by grade, look at roman arts he got an 86 on the last exam and he's in the academy right now.

[RomanArts]

NYC you are absolutly right eventhough it took them 4 years to call me I am in my 6th week of the academy and moving on next week is peace officer training all week, if anyone has any questions PM me. I havent been posting lately due to the fact that I am concentrating on passing all the tests.

[Hpool403]

Do you think if you missed the test you will be able to take it this time around if they do a re take'?

[Ant61683]

Hpool403 the test will not be out for another 4 years... Once it comes up again anyone can take it !..

Yes i also dont think that the exam should be thrown out... If they can find the people that had prior knowledge of the exam they should be tossed and not allowed to take city exams... But i don't think everyone should suffer ..

[Jay-P]

Why should it be thrown out, just because you didnt do as good as you hoped, everyone else should get f@#ked? That's what happens with exams, someone has to do worse in order for others to be hired, suck it up and take the next test. You were/are found unfit for the position of BTO if they do not get to you.

You cannot go by grade, look at roman arts he got an 86 on the last exam and he's in the academy right now.[/QUOTE]

You must be one of the people who cheated. It should be thrown out because of people with the answers like YOU that make it hard for the rest of us! I`ve heard of the answers on a website but didn`t believe it til I heard about this in the daily news!!! And if it is true, then it should be thrown out!!!

[ImportInvasion]

Not for nothing fellas, but I've been calling DCAS, and they say the list number for this test has not yet been established. Is there some info you guys know that I'm missing? :confused:

[nyc2235]

Yeah beacause I'm not dumb enough to get 13 wrong I must have cheated.... no I am just smarter than you.


Too fvcking bad. The person who sent that letter in wants to get the exam thrown out because they did bad on it, the same thing happened with the last two FDNY exams, and they came back unfounded.

[Jayc6018]

It should absolutely not be thrown out. I got 5 wrong, I can live with that result too bad you got 13 wrong. Theres always more test.

[Ant61683]

i agree with nyc & jayC
i got a few wrong not to many but i dont think it should be thrown out because one person complains , and some people got there hands one a the answers....

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Hey, anybody know whats going on? are they throwing the list out or are they keeping it? the suspense is killing me. And how does anyone even know if these clowns actually did cheat???

[jmscat14]

Hey Guys, I Read In "the Chief" That They Are Giving The Bridge And Tunnel Officer Test In June 2008, Filing Is Feb 2008.
If You Guys Do Go In The Academy "do Not Go To Nyc Police Store On Metro In Queens To Buy Your Stuff" They Are Rip Offs. Just A Tip.
Guys Dont Give Up Because It's Going To Be Worth It.

[DOAcop38]

I found something intersting on the page when i googled TBTA officer-the page also has State MTA on it-the job part said the MTA police officers make $34K to $68K/yr(more than NYPDs $32K to $59k/yr)-how much does the TBTA officer make ( they listed a part time as $12.98/hr or something) and do they-Bridge and tunnel officers -have to attend a full time academy like other police officers......? Also, do NYPD "precincts" look down on TBTA officers or is there a good working relationship(like if a call went out of a crime in progress,would NYPD still respond or contact TBTA to handle it)

[nyc2235]

TBTA starts at 37k and goes to 52k but you can make a killing in overtime. and the academy is full time 3 months long covering Peace Officer training, Firearms, TBTA rules and regulations etc. TBTA isnt looked down by NYPD in general, some of the oldtimers think BTO's are just security because their idiots.

[Ant61683]

Has anyone heard of any news from DCAS or anything ????

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Does that mean they threw this test's results out??

[jmscat14]

NEUROTOXINX-I READ THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE.I think they had to schedule a tentative exam date in case the exam is thrown out. What will happen is you will see on the DCAS site that its not on the main list of exams, just a tentative date on the PDF form, and among the 120 exam dates for '07-'08.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Oh, I'm sorry I got a little worried, so basically it's a just incase type of thing eh?

[bklynbob]

Oh, I'm sorry I got a little worried, so basically it's a just incase type of thing eh?

the test will probably not be thrown out.they are going to have another test for numerous reasons 1. they make $$$from tests.2. they are expecting many retirements and do not wannt to get people from the bottom of the list.nycta is givin a bus operator test next year.they gave a test earler this year and have not promulgated it yet.same reasons as above.relax,if you got a 90 or better and your not an edp,you're in!

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Oh no, I got an 88 and I'm most definately not an EDP

[Ant61683]

Yea i got a 88 as well , i hope it changes to a 92 after the protest results come back .....

Does anyone know when the Final results of our exam comeback ??

[Jay-P]

Date: 06/29/07 Department Of Citywide Administrative Services Page: 3
Exam Schedule Report Id : Abrlr179
From 07/01/2007 To 06/30/2008
Sorted By Filing Start Date
Note: All Dates Are Tentative And Subject To Change.
Filing Filing
Exm Exm Start End Test
Exam Title No Typ Date Date Date
__________________________________________________ __________ ______________________________________
Paralegal Aide 7035 C 11/07/07 11/27/07 02/23/08
Poilce Officer (prom) 7518 P 11/07/07 11/27/07 02/23/08
Resident Buildings Superintendent (prom) 7530 P 11/07/07 11/27/07 03/01/08
Structural Maintainer Group E 7026 C 11/07/07 11/27/07 02/23/08
Supervisor Glazier (prom) 7510 P 11/07/07 11/27/07 03/08/08
Correction Officer 7014 C 11/16/07 02/15/08 05/10/08
Supv.of Mechanical Installations &maintenance 7037 C 12/05/07 12/26/07 03/29/08
Telephone Maintainer 7027 C 12/05/07 12/26/07 03/15/08
Tower Operator (prom) 7523 P 12/05/07 12/26/07 03/15/08
Assoc. Supervisor Of School Security (prom) 8516 P 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/10/08
Bus Operator 8006 C 01/02/08 02/26/08 04/19/08
Computer Service Technician 8028 C 01/02/08 01/22/08
Dispatcher (surface Transportation) (prom) 8512 P 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/17/08
Maintainer (bridges And Tunnels) 8008 C 01/02/08 01/22/08 04/26/08
Power Distribution Maintainer (prom) 8505 P 01/02/08 01/22/08 04/12/08
Public Health Assistant 8016 C 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/03/08
Public Health Assistant (school Health) 8031 C 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/03/08
Supervising Deputy Sheriff (prom) 8504 P 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/03/08
Traffic Enforcement Agent 8014 C 01/02/08 01/22/08 05/03/08
Transit Property Protection Agent 8007 C 01/02/08 01/22/08 04/19/08
Police Officer 8000 C 01/16/08 05/15/08 06/14/08
Battalion Chief (prom) 8511 P 02/06/08 02/26/08 05/17/08
Bridge And Tunnel Officer 8010 C 02/06/08 02/26/08 06/21/08
Captain (fire) (prom) 8510 P 02/06/08 02/26/08 06/07/08

[ImportInvasion]

Does anyone have a phone number where a LIVE person actually picks up??? It makes no sense how we took this test, and get absolutely NO INFO on it. Everybody knows the city could care less, but c'mon they could try a little better at keeping people informed of this situation. None of this makes any sense. Any info,...anybody???:confused:

[Ant61683]

No info .. That is how the city is.. you wont hear anything for a couple years... even after you get results back.... Join the club

[bklynbob]

Does anyone have a phone number where a LIVE person actually picks up??? It makes no sense how we took this test, and get absolutely NO INFO on it. Everybody knows the city could care less, but c'mon they could try a little better at keeping people informed of this situation. None of this makes any sense. Any info,...anybody???:confused:

There are many test that have been administered.Average time to get the CERTIFIED list is usually 5-7 months.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Anything new yet guys?

[RomanArts]

Ok Ok Guys Let Me Give U Somewhat Good News From What I Hear The Test Is Good, There Will Be A Class In Eithe Rnovember Or January So Good Luck To All!! My Class Is Graduating Within 2 Weeks

[nyc2235]

good luck, and let us know what your assignment is.

is that going to be from the new or old list?

[RomanArts]

MY assignment is TBM and thats gonna be form the new list

[nyc2235]

Roman Arts, before I say this I just want you to know I am not gay.


I love you.lol.
That made my day, and TBM is a real nice command from what I understand, a lot of stand up cops are assigned there.

Overall how was the whole expreience so far? Everything you expected?

Anyways good luck bro.

[RomanArts]

ewwww you are a homo!!!! nah i am just kidding man TBM is a good command i have worked there as a temo u know the trash in brown uniform plus the whole experience is good had fun especially at the range

[nyc2235]

haha, you were a temp. oh god, those uniforms are horrible.lol.

how did the guys treat you, I heard some stories of temps being treated like crap. So did you guys have gun and shield day yet? whats the graduation date?

[Ant61683]

Hey whats going on guys ? I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything from TBTA or has anyone started any screening ??

[vab1978]

Hey Guys,

I am new to this forum and have a couple of questions.

1) Does anybody have updated info on BTO Exam 6091 administered on May 19, 2007? Is the test being thrown out?

2) If you are hired as a temporary BTO, can you join the special 20 year pension plan for BTO's only (called the NYCERS MTA Bridges and Tunnels 20 year, Age 50 Retirement Plan for Tier 4 Members (50/20))? Or do they make you join the regular old Tier 4 plan?

3) To Roman Arts or anyone else currently in the Academy, do they let you join the BTO 50/20 retirement plan when you are hired? Alternatively, is there a waiting period to join that plan or do they require you join the regular Tier 4 retirement plan first?

Any information you can provide would be appreciated.

[bklynbob]

the test will probably not be thrown out.they are going to have another test for numerous reasons 1. they make $$$from tests.2. they are expecting many retirements and do not wannt to get people from the bottom of the list.nycta is givin a bus operator test next year.they gave a test earler this year and have not promulgated it yet.same reasons as above.relax,if you got a 90 or better and your not an edp,you're in!

Looks like the test will not be used,rumor as of now.Start studying,again.Good luck to all.

[RomanArts]

Like I sadi before from what I know the test is not thrown out and the list should be established really soon, the reason is there are rumours that the new class of the new list will be going in in November. As far as the question about temp BTO you do not have a pension plan when you are a temp, therefore you cannot join our pension plan.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I'm really confused by all of this , ya think theyre tossing them or what ? lol.

[Viper2007]

bklynbob... They have to use the new list. List 2065 is done. The June class was their last class that they hired off of 2065.

The next class will be off the new list. The test scheduled for 2008 was a tentitive one. If they use the test given back in may 2007.. there is no reason for them to give a test in 2008.

I hit really high on the test they gave in May 2007... so hopefully it comes thorugh within the next 2 months.

[Cadet2020]

Its really kind of difficult to believe that there would be a class for Nov, especially since no one has heard anything...but I think I had only 3-5 wrong on the exam....so I'm hoping I do get called....it would be a great jump on the law enforcement band wagon....

[Viper2007]

Anyone know a phone # to call to check on whats going on with the new list?

The DCAS # does not give much info.

[bklynbob]

bklynbob... They have to use the new list. List 2065 is done. The June class was their last class that they hired off of 2065.

The next class will be off the new list. The test scheduled for 2008 was a tentitive one. If they use the test given back in may 2007.. there is no reason for them to give a test in 2008.

I hit really high on the test they gave in May 2007... so hopefully it comes thorugh within the next 2 months.

They don't need to put in a class. they can hire provisionals or they can just pay ot to current officers.the nypd is running 5000 short.Ya think The tbta can survive with a 100-200 less officers? I'm sure they can.......and will.

[vab1978]

I am new to this civil service stuff but my understanding is that a lot needs to happen before the City can hire new BTO's from the May exam, including:
1) protests to specific exam questions are submitted to a Test Validation Board. The TVB evaluates the protests and prepares a report with recommendations. (Does anyone know if this has been done yet?)
2) the final exam key is established (This has not happened yet. FYI, 7 of the 9 tests given in December 2006, do not have final exam keys yet - so this may be months away.)
3) exams are rated, followed by a 30 day waiting period for applicants to challenge the computation of their score
4) the eligible list is created
5) people are hired off the list

The above is for a test without complications. The BTO test is under investigation by the Department of Investigation and I don't know how that will effect or lengthen the process.

Sorry Viper2007, NYC employees do not seem to answer the phone.

[jmscat14]

Hey Nyc2235, Wat Happened To The Tbta Rant, I Cant Get On. You Had Another Site That Your Cuz Started Wat Was It (mta Transit) Something Like That. Thanks Dude

[RomanArts]

Hey Jmscat How Bout Doing Some Work. By The Way I Need That Holster Can You Arrange. I Mean The On Duty Safariland? Gimme A Call When U Get A Chance

[Cadet2020]

I guess we won't here from the TBTA for a while....

[Viper2007]

Give it time. The rumor is that there will be a class sometime between November-Janaury. If thats the case, the people that hit high on top of the new list will be contacted sometime within the next month or so.

TBTA will need at least 2 months to propery screen and investigate a group before they can hire them.

Cadet, how did you do on the test?

[Viper2007]

Anybody hear anything yet?

[vab1978]

I have not heard anything. But it is my understanding that they cannot hire permanent applicants from the May 2007 exam until the exam key has been finalized and a list established. As per the DCAS website:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/employment/kmay2007.shtml

the exam key has not been finalized yet. Maybe the website is not up to date, but it is likely going to take a while.

vab1978

[Viper2007]

Theres no way they can do a November class. If they sent out letters now, they would probably start processing towards the middle of Oct. Theres no way that they can properly investigate and process a group of new hires in 4 or 5 weeks... I think we are looking at December of January.

[Cadet2020]

I believe I got either 3-5 wrong....anything new...?

[Viper2007]

Nothing yet.

[Viper2007]

Anybody hear any news yet?

[RomanArts]

Ok Ladies From What I Hear A List Should Be Established Sometime In November And The First Class Should Be Going In January Of 2008 So Good Luck And Keep Hope Alive Muaahhahahahahhaha

[bklynbob]

Ok Ladies From What I Hear A List Should Be Established Sometime In November And The First Class Should Be Going In January Of 2008 So Good Luck And Keep Hope Alive Muaahhahahahahhaha

hiring freeze in nyc. take the us park police test.trees, water ,parks........or carbon monoxide,traffic,********* drivers...................

[Cadet2020]

Hiring in nyc is slow as it is....and now with the hiring freeze it could be worse...does this freeze effect the tbta as well...?

[NYCTNT]

I dont see how the hiring freeze would directly affect TBTA as TBTA is technically part of MTA. ANDDDD... MTA is not a real city agency, but only a PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION for THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

Basically, if MTA runs out of money, then everyone under MTA are out of the job. If the city runs out of money and the MTA still has money, then everyone still has a job under MTA. Of course... soon or later it will affect things!

[bklynbob]

I dont see how the hiring freeze would directly affect TBTA as TBTA is technically part of MTA. ANDDDD... MTA is not a real city agency, but only a PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION for THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

Basically, if MTA runs out of money, then everyone under MTA are out of the job. If the city runs out of money and the MTA still has money, then everyone still has a job under MTA. Of course... soon or later it will affect things!

Unfortunately,the mta is crying poverty,the want to raise fares and tolls.If there are a lot of retirements,they will probably hire a class or three. If not,the new fiscal year stars on 7/1 08.

[Cadet2020]

Really strange since I was asking about it but just received in the mail an MTA TBTA packet....anybody else..?

[Ant61683]

No, haven't received anything . Cadet Congrats ! ( I also think i got a few wrong so i don't think i did to great )
I guess whoever didn't get anything yet will get it monday ..

[Stackit02]

Anyone else receive a packet today? I am trying to gauge how many people they expect to be processing. It says I am required to report to a mandatory orientation on November 27th. Anyone else going?

Also, it says the entrance salary is $36,900, but I have heard overtime is so high it is almost required. What can someone expect to make their first year there?

[Cadet2020]

Yea I believe I did pretty well on the exam...prob only 3-5 wrong...but I am going to attend...Good Luck to those still waiting for the packet....I didn't think it was going to arrive that quick....

[Ant61683]

You guys obviously did really well to get a packet before the answers we're posted.. I didn't get the Packet yet which means I probably didn't do to great.. I hope the Final key/ Rank #'s come out so I can atleast see if i'll ever get called or not ..

[gbotj]

wow!! I've been waiting for my account to be activated since august!!! its been killing me that I couldnt post.

I got around a 94 on the exam, and havent recieved anything yet. However all the things that are sent to me always take forever since my last name is close to the end of the alphabet (I think they send them out in batches in alphabetical order) and I live out in suffolk county.

Can you guys explain what the packet is about and what it says in it. also was the envelope big when it came (so I know not to get my hopes up when I check the mail).

Ant, as I read in the other pages on this thread you said you scored around an 88. Thats good enough to get called. It will probably take 2-3 years, but look at roman arts, he scored an 86 and just graduated the academy.

well....now the waiting begins.

[Stackit02]

The envelope was a big one. It came with a cover letter that states that the eligible list has not been established yet, but with your grade we anticipate you will be called. Then it tells you that you must attend a pre-employment orientation. It gives you an entire background packit to fill out and bring with you to that orientation. The entire envelope has about 50 or so pages in it, so its definitely a big package. I am assuming people who got a 95 and above will get the package first.

[gbotj]

hmmm, interesting. thank you.

[gbotj]

How many questions did you guys (who received packets) get wrong with the proposed answer key?

[Ant61683]

I think the amount of questions anyone that got a packet had wrong was from 0-5 questions wrong... If im not mistaken.

Please feel free to post any information about the packets and other information you get !!!

[fedny]

hiring freeze in nyc. take the us park police test.trees, water ,parks........or carbon monoxide,traffic,********* drivers...................

Trees? Parks? Must be thinking of Park Rangers, we are urban law enforcement, our field office in NY is kind of held back due to understaffing, not a bad job although you will be stuck in DC for a bit.

Anyway, what kind of training does TBTA get?

[Cadet2020]

Another simple but useful question...I received the packet...so believe the process would be somewhat quick...does anyone know when the next academy class would be...?

[gbotj]

TBTA Training Sgt.'s said the next class should be late december.

It usually takes 1-1 1/2 months to process a group, a new group is processed every 3 months.

Usually everything is scheduled in three weeks span. So if your orientation is Nov. 27th you will probably have the next step by the 3rd of December. it should be done by the last week of december or first week of january, the next class should be march or april 08' (they put a class in every three months, it just took so long for this class becuase it was the first off the new list).

[gbotj]

well, it seems I wont be getting processed for this group (I missed it by 1 friggin point) so I heard theres going to be another class in march, so they will begin to process a new group around january.

Can you guys (1st group) please tell us what the orientation is about, along with the next steps as you go along, just to give us a heads up on everything.

[Cadet2020]

Thanks for the info...wow by one point...damn...well look at it this way...you will be called up first by the next group....I start the process in the end of Nov....if it all goes as planned...it would be a great Christmas present to begin the academy...

[gbotj]

yes, hey you deserve it.

by joining forums and having a strong interest in law enforcement you show that you really want to do the job, and not just collect a paycheck.

I'll let you know if I hear anymore on the academy start date.

I guess I should look at it this way. I should be in the march class which means I'll hit the streets in the summer and not the winter....thats definately a plus.....however I'd love to start next month. lol.

[vab1978]

Congratulations to all of you starting this year. I got 6 answers wrong so hopefully I will be joining you next year. Keep posting to tell us how it is going.

[gbotj]

vab, you should be in the same group as me, looking like another 3 months or so.

[Ant61683]

I know a certain group of people got a packet already , being that the achieved a great score. Howcome the Final key and score not come out yet ???

[gbotj]

i have no clue, it takes them a while to publish it, I think they went by grades from the proposed key.

[Ant61683]

I hope Not because I had like a couple right and they marked them wrong .I went to the protest session and they should change those answers ..

[gbotj]

I'll tell ya though.

I'm sooo freakin happy they started processing because the first group off a new list ALWAYS takes the longest. After the first class TBTA puts a new one in every three months (usually one week after a class graduates a new one goes in).

once one class goes into the academy they begin processing for a new group, so I (along with the others who scored around the same as me) should get our packet by beginning of january....this gives us time to prepare for the academy and thereafter.

ugh more waiting.

[Ant61683]

Thats pretty good.. But i thought that BTA doesn't hire that much , or am i worng about that ..

I had my Sanitation physical today(passed)

[gbotj]

congrats on the PAT

they hire 3-5 classes a year each class is 30 guys.

as long as your in shape, and have a good backround your pretty much on.

[gbotj]

cadet, ant, and vab check your inbox I have some inside info.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

So with the proposed key I got about an 88 or 87 when do you think I'll get my packet?

[gbotj]

probably 2-3 years, hopefully your score will go up with the final key.

romanarts got an 87 and it took him 4 years to get on. I have been told that TBTA is expecting many retirements plus promotions to both Sgt. and Lt. so it may go faster this time.

look at it this way. The more questions you got wrong with the proposed key, the more chances you have to get them marked correct, based on pure probability of others getting those wrong and being changed to right. so that 88 may turn to a 90 and now your looking at a year to get called.

[Ant61683]

Yea , That would be great if i can get on in a year..

[gbotj]

anything is possible, even if you have to wait another year its not the worst thing in the world.

[bklynbob]

But remember,you'll be peace officers,not cops, A lot of standing around,and you have to sometimes collect tolls.

[gbotj]

"But remember,you'll be peace officers,not cops"

great another hairbag.

It doesnt matter what your title is whether its police officer or peace officer you may or may not be a cop. There are certainly many police officers who are not cops and many peace officers who are cops.

A cop is what many believe to be a "constable on patrol" correct me if I'm wrong but TBTA patrols bridges and tunnels. Others believe "cop" was derived from the copper shields the NYPD first carried, if thats the case than NO one other than NYPD are cops!