Tbta 2065

[bhavin115]

KAY thanks for all the great info.. i wanted to know if you already on the city payroll and if you get hired by tbta does your vacation and sick yime carry over or do we start from 0... thanks again

[KayWhy]

i believe your time rolls over as does any existing time in the pension...but dont quote me that you can ask when you go to orientation

[KayWhy]

to the first question, there is really no pt but you get baton tactics as well as oc spray tactics/ weapon retention, and handcuffing but for the most part its academic, to the second question i had 28 people in my class 24 graduated to a few will drop out/ fail but its hard to fail if you study for your exams take good notes, come on time and give 100%

[Jayc6018]

Hey Kaywhy really appreciate the info bro, my sis is a bto at the bbt.

My list number is in the 900's so I know TBTA will not get to me for bto until next yr hopefully.

Well there be a problem if I go in the NYPD and TBTA calls? I mean I can resign from NYPD but will they give up my file to TBTA if they ask for it?

I live in the Bronx so Triboro, Whitestone or Throgsneck will be excellent options for me but I would do Triboro since I'm only 3 miles away.

[KayWhy]

yeah nypd never wants to give up people's files i had a friend in pd auxilary who came to tbta and pd didnt want to give up his paperwork to the investigator which almost prevented him from getting this job, not to mention once your in pd for a year why switch to tbta

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

yeah nypd never wants to give up people's files i had a friend in pd auxilary who came to tbta and pd didnt want to give up his paperwork to the investigator which almost prevented him from getting this job, not to mention once your in pd for a year why switch to tbta

Damn, my list is in the low 900s and I'm in Aux pd. Think that'll negatively affect me?

[bhavin115]

the whole issue with nypd not sharing files is with po's due to the fact that evertime nypd trains you they spend money from their budget so for them to train you for 6 months and lose you to another agency not only hurts their numbers but waste alot of money and in a big city like nyc money is everything.. as far as i know and am also with the nypd but in a another uniformed title besides aux or po you wont have any issue going over to tbta not only that it looks good on the file that you have patrol exp.. i had a co-worker who was in nypd and now works at the qmt so dont worry and get in shape for that run

[Viper2007]

All that NYPD will do is verify employment. They will say 'Yes, so and so worked with the NYPD from this date to that date as (job title).'

And so another week of waiting starts.................. hopefully this is the week that calls go out...

[bhavin115]

man atleast you guys have something to wait for am still just waiting to get a packet lol

[LEIsMyLife21]

i hope calls start going out soon...i've even been dreaming about getting the call and waking up thinking, oh man im still waiting!!! lol...Well as always...Good Luck to everyone

Bhavin, dont worry, before you know it you'll be in the same position as the rest of us!

[Miro1118]

I feel like todays going to be the day. Just a hunch. Keeping fingers crossed X.

[gbotj]

good luck guys, hopefully you get called this week.

[Viper2007]

Nothing today.... hopefully tomorrow.

[gw35]

Nothing today.... hopefully tomorrow.

Well if I understood KayWhy, there will be a letter that is sent first letting you know that you qualify for the job. Im still at work so I haven't check my mail at home.

But in regard to a call, nothing on my end yet. :(

[Miro1118]

Well if I understood KayWhy, there will be a letter that is sent first letting you know that you qualify for the job. Im still at work so I haven't check my mail at home.

But in regard to a call, nothing on my end yet. :(

Nothing in the mail today for me either. I think that they are squeezed for time now. We are pretty sure that the Academy will be starting in Feb. If it does they will need to notify people soon.

I am prophesizing again, (I was wrong this morning) But I bet that we will get calls first with letters to follow quickly after. If you are in you will get a call then a letter, If you are out you will just get a letter.

I dont mean to second guess KayWhy. It just seems to be different circumstances this time.

Whatever it is, I hope its soon. I am anxious to find out if I made it and to get started.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Nothing on my end either...For some reason though i feel like the academy will be starting on the 14th...which is what i read on another forum, and from what they say, its the start of a pay period which makes sense...it just doesnt seem right for it to be on the 4th bc that leaves less than a week, and from what Kay said there has to be time in between to get letters and pick up uniforms for the first day...I was looking back on when the last class got the call and it seems to be a thurs...which that would be the last day of the month and gives exactly 2 weeks...i hope these days go by fast and we find something out!!

[gw35]

At this point I would be happy to know if Im in or not (preferrably in of course). So if we're told now to start on the 14th, or whenever, Ill take that over than just waiting and not knwoing anything. This process has definitely shown and given me patience beyond what I normally am. And this is from someone that has an extreme amount of patience.

[Viper2007]

If the class starts on the 11th or 14th, I cant see them making calls any later than this Thursday or Friday. I would say that Feb 4th is probably out of the question.

For the guys already on the job... will we have to pay for the uniforms at Park Coats? Or does TBTA pick up the bill?

[KayWhy]

unlike nypd tbta pays for all of your initial uniforms, thens gives you a decent uniform allowanced every year after your first to buy additional equipment, and replacde old uniforms, about the letter of qualification you recieve that from dcas stating you background is good, then you will recieve a call from mta hr asking if ur still interested then you will recieve a welcome packet with more papers to fill out and bring to academy, by the way the mta police exam is filing until 02/15/08 costs $40, its a good job has good perks except its not civil service so no list number (meaning people who have connections get the job first) and there is no job security here is the link just go to this link and click on police applicants, https://employment.mta.info/psc/hph1/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/ROLE_APPLICANT.ER_VIEW_JOBS.GBL

[KayWhy]

pros of mta police is 3 12hr tours a week 4 days off, police status, 20 and out, many different locations in the tri state area, ie conneticut, long island, staten island, upstate ny, and they have different depts like nypd ie detectives, canine unit, esu, , this might be good for people with the tbta list number near the 1000"s or up, starting pay is 33,000, top pay is in the 60"s which is more then tbta but probably no ot so tbta will make u more

[gbotj]

hey KayWhy, what are some of the posts like in TBTA? if your assigned to the plaza, toll booth, or RMP are you assigned there the whole tour or only a few hours.

[Cadet2020]

Sorry to interrupt the question asking...but I have Great News!!!!!!! I got the CALL by HR!!!!!!...the academy starts the 12th!!! The rest of the info should be sent by mail by next week....Good Luck to the rest of you all...any other questions...just message me...

[LP13]

Congrats Cadet!!

I got just a call too!!

I'm so excited! She said "the academy starts on the 12th, do you want it?" -- I was like "Uh, yea!!" lol

Congrats to everyone else who got called!!

[gw35]

Congrats Cadet and LP. Well deserve. Im hoping that I get the call too. Did they call you at home or at work? I ask because Im at work now.

Again, congratulations!!!!:)

[LP13]

Well I put my cell phone number down on all applications/paperwork, so she called my cell phone. I'm at work, but when I saw the number I dropped what I was doing and picked it up immediately...

Good luck to those waiting for the call!

[Viper2007]

Congrats Lp and Cadet!! See you guys on the 12th!!!!!!!:D:D:D

They are supposed to mail us packets now to go get our uniforms.

[vab1978]

Congratulations to all of you getting the call! Two weeks to start your LE career. Did you get a sense they were putting two classes in at once or is this just one class?

I hope to be in class number 3. Keep posting, we want to hear all about it.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Congrats everyone!! Keeping my fingers crossed to get that call too!!!

[gbotj]

congrats to everyone, and to all waiting for the call, I hope it comes soon for you guys. Hopefully today or tomorrow.

[Miro1118]

I am In. Just got the call. Congrats all.

I am thrilled.

P.S. I will be looking for carpool buddies.

[gbotj]

Miro, change that title under your name "BTO Hopeful" to "BTO Recruit"

congrats.

[Cadet2020]

Congrats to all....I know its nerve-wrecking but remeber they have to call about 60 candidates...and maybe even more if some turn the offer down....once again thanks for all the great info you all have given since the exam was first posted... Good Luck to the rest...

[LEIsMyLife21]

Soooooooooooo it looks like i'll be joining you guys on Feb 12th!!! YEYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! and apparently ill be only 1 of 2 females in the class, well as of right now!! so you guys be nice to us!! lol!

Congrats to everyone!!! It sure was worth the wait!!!

[gbotj]

congrats LE

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thank you GB, and thanks to everyone for all the help along the way!!

[Viper2007]

LE, congrats on getting the call!!!! :)

And yes, all of us guys on here will be nice to you!!:D Haha, Congrats again and see you on the 12th.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks Viper!! Today was definitely the most nerve-wrecking day of them all!! LOL!! knowing everyone got the call and i hadnt i was getting alittle worried!! Now we all have to figure out who we are on the 12th...ill be easy to figure out though! haha

[turtle]

Congrtas to all who got called..If u dont mind me asking, about what list # we're you guys.....Still waiting for the call myself.....Thanks

[LEIsMyLife21]

My list number was 265

[turtle]

I'm in the low 200's, so I hope that means I will be gettin a call too.....You never know theses things work..

[LEIsMyLife21]

Good Luck turtle!! Im sure it will be coming!!

[turtle]

Thanx....lets hope so...Anyone else get called w/ list #'s over 200????

[Cadet2020]

Near 100....

[mat07]

well i just got home from work now so you guys beat me to it. I got the call at my job b/c they thought my cell# was my home phone. I'm excited and relieved that we'll be starting on the 12th. Deborah told me the packet would be sent out as overnight or at least thats what i heard. She told me that one paper has to be notarized and we must show up on the 12th in uniform. Hope to see you all there. I gave my job notice as soon as she called.

[SCPS PO]

Congratulations to all the new BTO Recruits. Best of luck to you guys and I hope to see you guys whenever they start the next class. Keep us updated.

[Stackit02]

Did anyone not get a call that was expecting one? I hope they still have calls to make tomorrow!

[Jayc6018]

well i just got home from work now so you guys beat me to it. I got the call at my job b/c they thought my cell# was my home phone. I'm excited and relieved that we'll be starting on the 12th. Deborah told me the packet would be sent out as overnight or at least thats what i heard. She told me that one paper has to be notarized and we must show up on the 12th in uniform. Hope to see you all there. I gave my job notice as soon as she called.

BTW my list # was 68 for anyone that cares:D

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, lol Congrats bro they won't get to me until the end of this yr going into next yr. :cool:

[mat07]

lol thanks man and don't worry you'll get your call. the 12th couldn't be any closer i was anxious for the call and now i'm anxious for the start date. theres just no pleasing me...

[LEIsMyLife21]

I couldnt even sleep last nite!! lol...im anxious...and alittle nervous to start also!!

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, lol Congrats bro they won't get to me until the end of this yr going into next yr. :cool:

It's ok Jayc, I have a long wait to go also. Hopefully all the new BTO recruits will keep us posted on how the academy is and what it will be like and what to expect, furthermore I hope when they finally get out of the academy will tell us what the job is like. Also when we get on I'm pretty sure that they will be more then happy to show us the ropes.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Congratulations!!


Now back to the waiting game for me.

[bhavin115]

congrats and good luck to everyone going in on the 12th :D man it must be the best feeling to be one step closer to your goals.. please keep us informed of your journey and agian good luck and have fun and o yea studyyyyyyyyy

[Viper2007]

Anybody get the packets yet? Supposedly they were going to overnight mail them. I think overnight mail comes on a delivery truck and requires a signature.....

[gbotj]

Viper, it says on the USPS website that overnight mail is guaranteed next day between 12 noon and 3 pm. It also says that you have to sign for it.


Anyone waiting, stay close to the mailbox between 12 and 3

[LEIsMyLife21]

i hope not bc im at work and no one is home!! uh oh!

[gbotj]

LE, they will leave a little card in your mail box. When you get it, just go to the post office and they will give you the package.

I think the post office closes at 5 (im not sure though).

[Viper2007]

gbotj, I bet ya they come at 3:05!:D

[gbotj]

hahahahaha, with the USPS I wouldnt be surprised.

[turtle]

Anyone get any calls today, and approx. what # are you.......I hate this waiting game.. I'm thinking maybe they just called the first group of 28 and today/tomorrow they call the second group..Just a hunch......

[LEIsMyLife21]

anyone have any clue as to the time we may have to report for the academy?

[Miro1118]

anyone have any clue as to the time we may have to report for the academy?

It will probably list the reporting time in the packet. BTW I did not get mine today. They must have snail -mailed them.

The first couple of days should be at 2 Bway. I thought I heard that the academy was 7-3 but nobody knows yet how they have structured it yet. Is it 56 at the same time, or is it staggered days (AM and PM)? I guess we will find out soon enough.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Yea i was told they would be sending them in the mail, but she never said overnight mail, so idk...im sure we'll be getting them soon with all of the info

[gw35]

Did anyone not get a call that was expecting one? I hope they still have calls to make tomorrow!

Im one that did not get a call although Im in the 80's range - list wise. :(

I spoke to D. Wells over at HR and I was told that I was still pending due to my paper work not coming back from DCAS. I ask if this had to do with the BI and she said it did. What I cant understand is that Ive never been in trouble with the Law in my life, so I dont know what the hold up. Needless to say I wont be in the first class, and since I havent been DQ'fied, Ill possibly be in the 2nd class according to D. Wells.

Anyone from the previous test/class with experience like this can advise me of what to do or say (question wise) please help out. I appreciate the advisement Ive received so far through PM but it would be great to speak to someone that has gone through this before and may know the ropes.

As for the recruits that were called earlier this week, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! and enjoy the academy. Please keep us posted regarding day to day activities but dont neglect your studies. I for one would like to experience it through your words.

[LEIsMyLife21]

im sorry to hear that GW...i hope everything works out for you and that we see you soon!!!

[Miro1118]

Got the packet today. Regular mail. We report 7:45 on the 12th at 2 Bway. It has uniform instructions, Firearm waiver, and forms to fill out.

[Cadet2020]

So since the academy is only about a week and a half away....any useful tips that we all should know about...other than the usual.....any info would greatly be appreciated....

[gbotj]

So is the wait for the academy to start feel longer than the wait for the phone calls.lol.

[turtle]

Anyone talk to anybody who was called that had a list# over 200? Do u think all the calls went out for the 2 classes that start in Feb or just the 1st class???

[LEIsMyLife21]

Hey turtle if you havent received a call yet I would call Wells at HR and see what she has to say like GW did...hopefully she can give you some more answers

[turtle]

She doesnt seem like the happiest person in the world..I called last week and she was very short with me. I dont want to **** her off..Ur thoughts??

[LEIsMyLife21]

I would still try, considering phone calls have started going out and we know alittle more info now.... just be very polite and say you would like an update on your status

[Miro1118]

She was probably swamped last week, and did not want to give out any info. Everyone was pretty tight lipped about the start date and when the calls were going out and who was in or out. At this point they will probably be more willing to share more info with you like they did with GW.

Good luck, I hope it works out.

[gbotj]

In order to make an omelet, you have to break some eggs. If you finished the process and have a list number lower than others who were called I'd think something was wrong.

Unfortunately things have a way of getting messed up. Its not anyones fault, just the way things work out.

[gbotj]

Hey miro, that looks good under your user name.

[turtle]

Yeah I guess so..Just dont know if they didnt reach my # yet or if their is something wrong w/ one of the tests..There is no way to know, we are in the dark....

[gbotj]

if you figure theyre putting in 56 recruits they might have to call 60 or 65 because some will pass on the job, and if one person is making all the phone calls and each one is about 2 or 3 minutes each (for argument sake) your looking at a long time making calls. Also to put the paperwork through for each person that says yes or no, and get their document packets ready it could be as much as 10 minutes a person. I'm sure the one person has much more work to do other than make phone calls all day, and it could be very tiring talking on the phone and saying the same thing over and over again. They may have broken it down into a couple days of calls. For 60 people your looking at 3 hours or more worth of non stop phone calls.

I dont know, they may or may not be done calling.

[turtle]

thanks GB, do u think I should call HR to check on status or will I make them even more stressed and tick them off....

[gbotj]

call them.....or not, its your future. You have a legit question, GW called and I guarantee he doesnt regret it.

[turtle]

I tried twice in last hour..Either they are tired of picking up phone or their gone for the day.....I have no problem calling, but I dont want them to get ticked off and "possibly" skip over b/c I was annoying...Some people can be that way.We know nothing as to how it works behind close doors....But I appreciate your info and opinion.......Thanks

[gbotj]

no problem, just trying to help out another hopeful.

[turtle]

For those who received packets for academy,congrats, but did it say which class you are in or did it say just to report to 2 broadway on 12th????

[gbotj]

cadet check your inbox

[mat07]

For those who received packets for academy,congrats, but did it say which class you are in or did it say just to report to 2 broadway on 12th????

it doesn't say much about the class just to be there at 7:45AM in uniform. Good thing the uniform store is only about 5 min from my house so i'll be going there on sat. to get fitted. Heh, I found it funny that there is a declination letter in the packet as well...don't know who would turn that in now but yeah other than that just 4 other forms to fill out and the firearm waiver form which must be notarized. any other updates i will let you guys know a.s.a.p. as i'm sure the others who got the call will. just stay positive and don't sit back and wait to be called now because you never know if something might have gone wrong.

[LEIsMyLife21]

still havent gotten my packet but i live all the way in guam long island so ill give it til tomorrow, lol...

[Cadet2020]

Just received the letter by UPS...even tho it was laying outside the door...
I hope to get my uniforms the same day I get measured....

[Miro1118]

I plan on going to Parks tomorrow. Maybe I'll see some of you there. I will be the guy trying on the gray uniform. LOL

[Viper2007]

How did uniforms go for everybody?

I tried on the graduation jacket and the heavy blue duty jacket... does anybody know when we go back to pick those two things up?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Hey if possible can someone post pics of the uniforms? academy, graduation/class A stuff. thanks.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Picked up my uniform yesterday...I have to take my pants to the cleaners though to be re-altered...the lady made them too short, which i dont know how she managed that because she measured me first,lol...It was exciting though!! this week is going to be soo long!!

[Cadet2020]

Yea picked up the uniforms....it was a good feeling...lots of TBTA recruits there and some NYPD....so I believe the first day we must be fully uniformed and its going to be the second orientation like day...

[mat07]

How did uniforms go for everybody?

I tried on the graduation jacket and the heavy blue duty jacket... does anybody know when we go back to pick those two things up?

the guy told me that they send the stuff to tbta after the alterations are made and then tbta will distribute it to us when the time comes.

[gbotj]

boy the countdown really begins for you guys. 1 week.

[RomanArts]

Congrats recruits!!!! You get ur uniform a couple of days before your graduation, so that way u can get it ready. Neuro the uniforms are the same uniforms NYPD has, the only difference is the brass and the patches obviously. O.K. listen closely guys clean shaven no jewellery showing. ladies and gentlemen no hair touching your collar. Show up in full uniform dont forget your ties and your caps. Your caps are not to be worn inside any building, so when u are going to 2nd broadway the caps come off. Bring duffle bags for the books you are going to get. First three days are boring just lots of talking and dont you dare fall asleep lol. Good luck alll. if any questions ask away now is the time

[mat07]

Congrats recruits!!!! You get ur uniform a couple of days before your graduation, so that way u can get it ready. Neuro the uniforms are the same uniforms NYPD has, the only difference is the brass and the patches obviously. O.K. listen closely guys clean shaven no jewellery showing. ladies and gentlemen no hair touching your collar. Show up in full uniform dont forget your ties and your caps. Your caps are not to be worn inside any building, so when u are going to 2nd broadway the caps come off. Bring duffle bags for the books you are going to get. First three days are boring just lots of talking and dont you dare fall asleep lol. Good luck alll. if any questions ask away now is the time

does clean shaven include no mustache also? just out of curiosity not that I have any problem shaving it off. Also i happen to have a patchless duty jacket do you think it would be a big deal if i were to wear this or should i just go with any old jacket? thanks for the info

[Miro1118]

Roman, What is the academy schedule? Is it 7 to 3?

[RomanArts]

does clean shaven include no mustache also? just out of curiosity not that I have any problem shaving it off. Also i happen to have a patchless duty jacket do you think it would be a big deal if i were to wear this or should i just go with any old jacket? thanks for the info

I am no ttoo sure since I dont have any facial hair, but I believe the copy of the policy was attached to your uniform policy I believe. So read that, personally though I would shave the mustache off and see what they say at the academy. As far as the jacket you can wear whatever you like since you are not issuad a cadet jacket.

[RomanArts]

Roman, What is the academy schedule? Is it 7 to 3?

Miro usually yes, but since your class is a double class they might do am and pm, so one will be 7 to 3 and the other one would prob be 3- 11 i am not too sure. One will def be 7am till 3 pm

[Miro1118]

Thats right. I wonder how they will break it up if thats the case. Seems obvious that the first 28 will be 7 -3 and the rest in 3 - 11. I guess we will find out in a few days.

Miro usually yes, but since your class is a double class they might do am and pm, so one will be 7 to 3 and the other one would prob be 3- 11 i am not too sure. One will def be 7am till 3 pm

[Cadet2020]

Good Luck all...once again....whats the first 3 days like...even tho someone said its boring....
I know these are stupid questions...but
Do we bring our own lunch everyday?
Change of clothes...?
Is there a good number of parking spots @ Randalls?
I can't think of more questions at the moment so thats pretty much it...thanks...

[dbrown76]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the site and what brought me to it was the fact that I was looking for info regarding the TBTA academy since I will be starting on the 12th. I read someone's question concerning facial hair. On one of the forms I received it states that officers can wear a goatee and/or beard as long as it adheres to the length standards. If anyone knows of anymore info please feel free to share.

[dbrown76]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the site and what brought me to it was the fact that I was looking for info regarding the TBTA academy since I will be starting on the 12th. I read someone's question concerning facial hair. On one of the forms I received it states that officers can wear a goatee and/or beard as long as it adheres to the length standards. If anyone knows of anymore info please feel free to share.

[spaceghost1]

hello everyone,
new to the site but a long time reader of the posts, so decided to finally join forum. also starting on the 12th so i will see most of you there. and to those whom already picked up their uniforms, why is it that we got mesaured and somehow still seem to have been given the wrong sizes for the clothing. i myself have to run over to unis by park 2morrow to get the rite sizes....:mad:

[vab1978]

Congratulations and good luck to all of you starting the academy tomorrow. Hopefully, I will be joining you in the next class. Keep posting, we want to hear all about the academy.

[gbotj]

Hey vab, I did a bit of research on processing and TBTA usually sends out packets every 3-4 months and puts classes in every 3 1/2- 4 months. They usually give about 3 weeks from the time you get the packet to orientation so I'm thinking (and as others already pointed out) our packets should be sent out by the end of this month and orientation should be early-mid march.

So if you get anything in the mail, send out a post on the thread, and I'll do the same.


by the way, good luck to everyone tomorrow and I hope you all pass with flying colors.

[rtmcqueen]

good luck to all, always remember "the streets are watching"

[Stackit02]

So, how was everyone's first day as a BTO?

[DOAcop38]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the site and what brought me to it was the fact that I was looking for info regarding the TBTA academy since I will be starting on the 12th. I read someone's question concerning facial hair. On one of the forms I received it states that officers can wear a goatee and/or beard as long as it adheres to the length standards. If anyone knows of anymore info please feel free to share.

Not an "east coaster"- but my 2 cents-"goatees" and beards,unless you have a skin condition or its part of your religious life, is B.S. -period- it makes you look tacky,as the image of a police officer is a "Generic" image and the man/woman behind the badge must present that image as they represent the "system" ,not themselves-goatees and beards spell "I'm an individual,not part of something bigger"-clean shaved and -if allowed( Ca academies DON'T allow them) a neat moustache- says PROFESSIONAL. bald shaved or crew cuts ,no micro braids,no pony tails, no guido mullets,no billy idol spikes! If its more important to look "like you" than to represent the gov't -then you will compromise in every other aspect-sloppy uniform ,unshined leather belt( sorry you east coast guys ,but that sam browne is NOt supposed to be " scrape Brown"-polish it/dye it and it will last longer-plus WHAT the heck is wrong with wearing keepers on your belts??? keeps the belt from sliding around like keystone cops!!!)-then rules,regulations,the law ,moral values. Law enforcement is MORE than apaycheck- its a way of life ! and unless the TBTA has undercover and plainclothes work, you Don't need "dredd locks" to prove you ethnic identity-a person is born with that

examples of "squared away" academy looks (although alot "softer" thani%n my day)

Http://www.clarktraining.org/photos/cadets.htm

http://leo.riohondo.edu/Police%20Academy%20Life1.htm

[RomanArts]

Are you recruits OK? I thought u would share your thoughts and expiriences by now. We are all interested to know. Shareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Ant61683]

LoL Do they actually keep you that busy you can't respond ... ????
I guess this is what we have to look forward to when we get in the academy .....

[gw35]

LoL Do they actually keep you that busy you can't respond ... ????
I guess this is what we have to look forward to when we get in the academy .....

Or maybe they forgot about us. LOL! :D

[gbotj]

they told the recruits to watch what they say on internet message boards....I guess they are just playing it safe for now.

but a friend told me the academy is 11 weeks this time, scheduled to graduate in april, start peace officer training on monday and go to the gun range in 2 weeks. He said so far its awesome, just alot of paperwork for the first few days.

[vab1978]

Yes, all is certainly quiet from the current academy class.

Since they put in a double class and the academy is only 11 weeks, that means the next (third) class may go in as early as the first week of May.

Gbotj, I will let you know if I hear anything. Let's all hope it will be sometime soon.

vab1978

[Ant61683]

You say the academy is only 11 weeks ?? That is shorter then past classes ??

[jmscat14]

Hey Vab1978, Is That A Fact That They Put In A Double Class, I Hear One Class And I Hear Two.which One Is It. Thanks.

[gbotj]

yeah the june 4th class was also 11 weeks. They cut off wrecker training and desk training.

[gbotj]

friend said its a double class split into two groups, and some days they are going to be together and other days they are not.

So vab, yeah looks like we can be in as early as 1st or 2nd week of may.
He said they are scheduled to graduate on April 28th or 29th (monday or tuesday).

[Ant61683]

Now if you are going to start in may , how many more academies will they have this year ????? Because it looks like they're moving pretty fast , or will it slow down alot ????

[gbotj]

I just talked to him, he said rumor at the academy is another class in may, or june the very latest. So by the looks of it ant, they might put in another in august and possibly one more in november.

Now that training is a bit shorter they will hire more frequently.

If any of you guys have any questions I'll ask him for you, he's more than happy to help out.

[turtle]

Hey GB, long time no talk..Have you received a phone call or letter from HR telling you anything about your status? Whether your cleared but just waiting or if there was a problem in the hiring process? Obviously we missed the 1st academy but I want to make sure we are approved for next..I havent heard a word and those letters we heard we would be getting haven't come, to me anyway..Let me know..Thanks- Turtle

[rtmcqueen]

gb, turtle I will help you out, by now DCAS should have you file with there Inv. call DCAS ans speak to certification they will tell you whats going on. remember to be as nice as possible and they will give you the name of your Inv. Don't call HR yet. keep them in the dark until you find out from DCAS.

[gbotj]

rtmc, thanks but we dont have investigators yet. We missed the primary orientation and the person I spoke to said (and I think turtle did too) that all we had to do was send the reinstatment letter to HR and we would then be called for the next group.

Turtle, the packets shouldnt go out until the last week of feb (very earliest) but as my friend said at the academy the instructors are saying March for the next orientation, and then May or June (the very latest) for the next class.

[gbotj]

Turtle check your inbox.

[SCPS PO]

Anyone advise how many canvass letters are going out at the end of this month?

[gbotj]

well the last letters went to around 280 people but that was for 2 classes, this time its only for one class (28 recruits) and there were a few left over from this group and others who are reinstated so I'd say around 110-120.

[turtle]

GB, did u get a reinstatement letter to send back to them yet???This is first time I'm hearing of this letter- Turtle

[gbotj]

no, I think I got you mixed up with someone else. Dont worry about the letter.

[turtle]

RTMC, do you have that # to DCAS to check on my status..I went through all testing already....Thanks- Turtle

[turtle]

GB- No problem buddy. yeahI went through it all already.Just waiting on academy but havent heard a word.......

[turtle]

Anyone out there who was in the first orientation(240 or so).. and went through all processing and testing NOT get a phone call or letter stating ANYTHING???I'm in limbo and it's hard to get in contact w/ HR.......I though I would have heard something by now..Obviously the first academy is underway but now what? .Anyone?Anything?...-thanks- Turtle

[rtmcqueen]

ok, ok. gb and turtle it does not matter, HR must report to DCAS whats going on thats why i told you what to do, remember when i told you what happened to me, when you said i was not telling the truth, well the same thing is going on with you guys, HR is not going to tell you whats up. only DCAS can>>>> I can bet that your file is at DCAS with there inv. call 212-669-1357 wait to speak to a live person then ask for certification. remember you must be nice on the phone.

[Viper2007]

^^ What rtmc said. DCAS handles the background investigation. At it's completion, they send the findings to TBTA HR. TBTA also contracts with some private company for part of the background investigation also... I forget the name of the company.

IF you want an answer, I would do what rtmc said. Chances are, they will only tell you the status with no details... but I'm not 100% sure on that.

[turtle]

Thank you all for that info..I will call DCAS on Monday/Tuesday to check on my status..I Appreciate the help- Turtle

[PlainSilverTin]

seems like i've been waiting forever to get the orientation packet, i can't wait to see if i get one feb/march my list is low 300's so if what i am reading on the forums is right i should be getting it soon and i can move on from my current department.

out of curiosity, has anyone heard if medical has given anyone who has gone through gastric bypass or has had the gastric band procedure a hard time? This is for BTO and any other LEO positions in ny. i have a friend who has had the band done (medically less invasive) and is looking to take LEO exams in ny after he finishes college. but he is worried about a medical disqualification due to the band procedure.

i know alot of people end up having some terrible complications due to these surgeries and i guess if you suffer from them than it can be a problem, but what about people who has them done and are healthy with no complications?

anyway, good luck to all and once you guys start getting orientation packets, let us all know!

[8bigdaddy8]

got the orientation packet today see you guys there on march 7, 8:45am.....

[NYSJAILER2008]

Hey GBOTJ,

I am in the running for TBTA also. I got a 88% on the current test. so I say maybe a year or two before they get to me. Do you know the Off-Duty carry rules and regs for their Peace Officers. I know they are issued duty weapons, but I think they have to lock them up at the end of tour. Maybe you or any current TBTA MOS can clarify. With my agengy we are issued and carry 3 different on duty weapons when the position calls for it and off-duty we can carry any automatic or revolver we choose. There is no long waiting period (6 months-1 year) three weeks after the academy when we finish OJT....Is TBTA the same or similar to NYC correctons and NYS Court Officer

[PlainSilverTin]

got mine today too see you guys march 7th.

[vab1978]

Ditto, I got my packet also. See you guys at orientation!

[SCPS PO]

I hope the snow delayed my packet. Did the first round of packets arrive on different days for everyone?

[Viper2007]

NYSJAILER, here is how the off duty carry works with TBTA. You get your firearm at the end of training which can be anywhere from 11 to 13 weeks. You must leave the gun at work in your locker at your facility until your 6th month. So if you were hired on Feb 12th, you won't be able to carry off duty until August 12. After your 6th month, you will be allowed to carry your Glock 19 service weapon off duty. On your 1 year anniversary, you will be allowed to go buy a Glock 26 for off duty carry... I guess they do this because of the 1 year probation period they have you on.

[NYSJAILER2008]

NYSJAILER, here is how the off duty carry works with TBTA. You get your firearm at the end of training which can be anywhere from 11 to 13 weeks. You must leave the gun at work in your locker at your facility until your 6th month. So if you were hired on Feb 12th, you won't be able to carry off duty until August 12. After your 6th month, you will be allowed to carry your Glock 19 service weapon off duty. On your 1 year anniversary, you will be allowed to go buy a Glock 26 for off duty carry... I guess they do this because of the 1 year probation period they have you on.
Thanks Viper2007, that was great info. so you are limited to only Glock brand. Very interesting! Are you on the job? If so I am sure you love it? How much can you make the 1st year?

[Ant61683]

This is the new round of Orientation Packets ? What # are they going to give packets out to ?????
Grats to the next round !

[tnelly711]

havent been able to post in awhile but i would like to sat congrats to everyone that made it in...hope your all doing well....got my packet on friday!!..i was wondering if anyone knows what the tattoo policy is? i went to join the navy like 4 years ago and passed my asvab with a great score but wasnt allowed in cause i got alot of tattoos ...however none of them are visable when i wear long sleeve shirts...i would appreciate any info!

[Viper2007]

tnelly, you will be asked about it. It depends what type of tat's they are and what they say. It's hard to give you an answer based on your post. Every situation is different.

[Ant61683]

What # have they given packets out to for this upcoming Orientation ??? If you guys don't mind answering , so i know when the likelyhood is that I may receive mine..... Looks like they are boogying now just wonder if that will either stop or slow down ...

[PlainSilverTin]

ant, i scored in the low 300's. the first group was made up of the 1st 275 or so eligible candidates which were called, so i am assuming they will call the same amount or candidates for the 2nd group. We have to bear in mind that there are eligible candidates that were certified from that 1st group that were not put in the last academy, nobody seems to know if they will put in another double class at this point, if they don't do another double class, the next class will be less than 30. if that is the case, then there is an excellent chance that the next class will consist of candidates certified from the 1st group. The first certified candidates from this 2nd group going in now will most likely go in the end of summer or fall or possibly even next year depending on how many academy classes they are planning to hold. i thought i read somewhere that tbta usually only holds 3 classes a year but i could be wrong.

[rtmcqueen]

ant, i scored in the low 300's. the first group was made up of the 1st 275 or so eligible candidates which were called, so i am assuming they will call the same amount or candidates for the 2nd group. We have to bear in mind that there are eligible candidates that were certified from that 1st group that were not put in the last academy, nobody seems to know if they will put in another double class at this point, if they don't do another double class, the next class will be less than 30. if that is the case, then there is an excellent chance that the next class will consist of candidates certified from the 1st group. The first certified candidates from this 2nd group going in now will most likely go in the end of summer or fall or possibly even next year depending on how many academy classes they are planning to hold. i thought i read somewhere that tbta usually only holds 3 classes a year but i could be wrong.

when TBA sends out new packets that means that they need a new group of candidates to choose from, most if not all have been past over, choosen not selected or your case is held up at DCAS. you have to remember that they only have a limited number of slots 15 to 30 and subject to the 1 of 3 rule, which mean that out of 3 canidates only 1 gets the job the others are passed over then thy take the next 3 and do the same thing.

[SCPS PO]

Got my package. I'm on 3/11 for orientation. Different then some of you guys here?

[vab1978]

March 11? Yes, that is different from me, my letter said March 7 at 8:45 a.m.

Has anyone else gotten an orientation package for March 11? Does anyone know why they would have two orientations several days apart?

[KayWhy]

Thanks Viper2007, that was great info. so you are limited to only Glock brand. Very interesting! Are you on the job? If so I am sure you love it? How much can you make the 1st year?

technically you can own and carry any firearm you please but you only indemnified (exuse my spelling) with the glock 19 & 26, which means if you get involved in an off duty shooting and its not the 19 or 26 your on your own even if it was an acceptable circumstance, but if its your 19 or 26 then the mta will back you with there lawyers, so after you get approval to purchase more firearms fell free to but a desert eagle just dont use it off duty....and about the pay depending on how long you first year is if its the whole year you "could make" as much as you wanna work, 50k/60k, but the sky is the limit people do 2000 hours ot but thats if you wanna live at work,

[KayWhy]

havent been able to post in awhile but i would like to sat congrats to everyone that made it in...hope your all doing well....got my packet on friday!!..i was wondering if anyone knows what the tattoo policy is? i went to join the navy like 4 years ago and passed my asvab with a great score but wasnt allowed in cause i got alot of tattoos ...however none of them are visable when i wear long sleeve shirts...i would appreciate any info!

listen when you take the psyc they ask how many tats you have and what they are, the doc will ask about them if there is anything wrong with them, but ive seen a bto with a full sleeve, that probably a case by case situation

[bklynbob]

technically you can own and carry any firearm you please but you only indemnified (exuse my spelling) with the glock 19 & 26, which means if you get involved in an off duty shooting and its not the 19 or 26 your on your own even if it was an acceptable circumstance, but if its your 19 or 26 then the mta will back you with there lawyers, so after you get approval to purchase more firearms fell free to but a desert eagle just dont use it off duty....and about the pay depending on how long you first year is if its the whole year you "could make" as much as you wanna work, 50k/60k, but the sky is the limit people do 2000 hours ot but thats if you wanna live at work,

They MAYindemnify you. You get into a soot that is even remotely fugazy and you are screwed.Your off dut is only to be used for the defnse of you or your family! This lberal nyc.guns are bad!!!! If you wanna play cop.............get another job. good luck,stay safe.and always watch their hands.

[Dinosaur32]

Always remember this: Embarass the job in any way, even if your weapon is job issued and you're toast to the bosses. Cover them in glory with your actions and you're good to go (still wouldn't choose a Desert Eagle for OD carry/use though...your sanity will be questioned)

[NYSJAILER2008]

technically you can own and carry any firearm you please but you only indemnified (exuse my spelling) with the glock 19 & 26, which means if you get involved in an off duty shooting and its not the 19 or 26 your on your own even if it was an acceptable circumstance, but if its your 19 or 26 then the mta will back you with there lawyers, so after you get approval to purchase more firearms fell free to but a desert eagle just dont use it off duty....and about the pay depending on how long you first year is if its the whole year you "could make" as much as you wanna work, 50k/60k, but the sky is the limit people do 2000 hours ot but thats if you wanna live at work,
Well TBTA mirrors NYSDOC the same way with first year salary $44k with OT 50-60k and we have 7 year step progam to reach top pay. That is something to think about. Me personally owning .50cal ,,,45cal,,,40cal etc is good for you collection but personally I would only carry 9mm compact or .380cal for personal protection, because as you stated is you get into a off-duty situation the investigatiors will question why are you walking around with hand-cannons looking for war.
In state corrections we train and qualify with the S&W .38cal 6shot, but nobody really uses it for off-duty carry. Every Officers off-duty weapon should be for personal protection only and to prevent immienent danger of death or serious pyshical injury to you and/ or any family/friend member in your presense, if you see any other kind of crime happening call the local police and be a great witness of information. In a perfect world as sworn officers we may want to help or stop many crimes, but as many already know your agency might not back you if something goes wrong.

[SCPS PO]

Anyone else with a March 11th orientation date?

[SCPS PO]

Can any BTO advise what type of medical benefits are available once you are hired? I'm currently on Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield Direct POS plan.

[gbotj]

hey guys on the packets do you put in junior high and elementary school? because I have 2 colleges to put down plus high school. Any help would be appreciated.

[gbotj]

SCSPO check out btoba.tripod.com and go to links or updates or something like that, it breaks down retirement, deferred comp plans, and medical benifits.

[SCPS PO]

gbotj,

Already checked out their website. They don't have any definitive answers to a choice of insurance carriers or types of plans. Which packet are you referring to, the one for the city or MTA? The MTA application asks for the specific school (technical, college, graduate, etc.). I would mirror both apps to be on the safe side or place the junior high school data on the education part or use the comments part. Be guided by the CPD-B.

Make copies of everything.

[gbotj]

Yeah thats what I'm going to do SCPS PO. Thanks for the reply.
Sorry I couldnt help out with the medical question. I'll try to find out though.

[SCPS PO]

No problem. When is your orientation date?

[gbotj]

7th 8:45 am

you may be a 1 man show on the 11th. lol.

[gbotj]

SCPS PO,

They have empire.

[SCPS PO]

I hope they are under direct POS. I hate to have me or my family switch to doctors out of network :mad:

If it turns out to be a one man show on the 11th, I guess it should only take me 20 minutes.

[MasterMason]

No gbotj, there will be two of us on the 11th. Did they send out 250 apps?

[SCPS PO]

Not sure how many packets they sent out. What was your list number MasterMason?

[MasterMason]

List and I scored and you?

[SCPS PO]

I'm in the 390's.

[vab1978]

So what are people wearing on Friday (Monday)? I am inclined to wear a business suit.

[bhavin115]

man the 600's are getting closer, i guess they might be going to 500 this time, anyone get higher then 430 and got a packet?

[Ant61683]

I'm just afraid that after this big call up they will not put anymore in for the year ... my list number is 1200 and i know that another BTO had that rank number and it took 3 years.. I hope it is in less time than that....

[bklynbob]

many retirements coming up in many titles................remember,let the old timers get the ot first. good luck to all

[SCPS PO]

Ant61683,

Looking at your sig, it's more likely Sanitation will call you before TBTA. By the way, how long has it been since you passed your physical? My buddy passed it in December and he still hasn't heard anything.

[Ant61683]

SCPS i took the physical first week in November , I haven't heard anything as well .. They say soon, but noone knows...

[SCPS PO]

Keep the faith Ant, they will call sooner than later. All of you with an orientation date tomorrow, let us know how it goes.

[vab1978]

Hello All,

Orientation went well. Deborah Wells and the entire staff were very nice, helpful and incredibly professional (much better than some City agencies I have seen). Here are the highlights:

• whole process took about 3 ½ hours
• 200 people were sent pre-employment orientation letters
• we had about 50 applicants at our session at 8:45 am
• someone (applicant) said there was another orientation this afternoon
• most applicants wore business attire

Hal Greenberg (Director of HR) said
1) there will be another orientation next week
2) physical and agility test on March 28
3) they don’t know when the next class will start – around end of April
4) they don’t know if they will be putting one or two classes in the academy, so assume one class of 28 applicants

Hope this helps.

[bhavin115]

so i guess the list around 450 to 475

[SCPS PO]

vab1978,

Thank you for the detailed report. Regarding the March 28th physical, is that the date for your orientation group or all of us?

[gbotj]

he said the orientations were just split up because of the size of the room. 100 for 8:45am on the 7th and 100 for the 11th. about 50 people showed up. They said we will all be on the same page after orientations so we'll all have the same physicals etc.

[bklynbob]

The mta wants to cut the numner of bto's in the future. Go to the ny daily news site and look up pete donohue's article "Hi tech may put end to mta tolls".

[Viper2007]

It will effect the # of temps they hire more than the # of full time BTO's.

[bklynbob]

You never know what can happen when the bureaucrats try to start saving money.

[gbotj]

it is what it is

[PlainSilverTin]

yeah, i was surprised to see how few were there on friday, definitely less than 70...anyway start running, for christ sakes its just over half a mile you gotta be near dead to not be able to make that in the 7:30...but then again i'm in pretty lousy shape since my last academy so i should shut up and follow my own advice.

anyone else ****ed they don't have any MAC sites in queens? oh well off to brooklyn....

[SCPS PO]

Some people just hate running...like myself. I can do the run, but just hate doing it. I much rather do my verticals in reverse and run up those stairs.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Can anyone please advise as to whether the TBTA does credit checks , I've had my share of bad luck and stupidity and it has led me to some bad credit and I'm currently in the process of paying back things that I owe, but can someone please tell me if they know for sure if they do check credit or not?

[vab1978]

At Friday's orientation, one of the MTA folk (Greenberg, Wells or Belton) said they do NOT perform credit checks.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Thank you Vab, I'm still going to try and correct it a bit because a buddy of mine told me his friend went through and got hit with a credit check so I just dont want to have waited that long to be jammed up by something so trivial as a couple of debts, the only downside is that I owe a lot of medical and have no insurance so Im trying to get usual outstanding debts out then medical, and i hope theyll understand about the med debts.

[PlainSilverTin]

yes i believe greenberg mentioned that credit wasn't an issue, but i think one of the pages for our background check that we had to sign basically gives them the power to run one in the fine print. will it matter? i hope not, alot of people make mistakes and i don't think that it necessarily interferes with our moral scope to have a little debt or past debt on our backs in terms of law enforcement, but we will be working with money exchange so who knows...i think it's still a safe bet that credit won't matter because the money and shortages are watched so closely....

[gbotj]

so anyone go to MAC 3?

[MasterMason]

March 11th orientation.
No credit check.
Class will start end of April beginning of May.
Said 28 per class nothing about this so called "double class".
60 showed up today. That means that with the approximately 55 that showed on Friday about 85 are out already.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Thank you to everyone that contributed to answering my questions, I feel a bit better about this whole credit thing, I'm in the process of using a debt counselor to try and help me get out of my credit slump, but I'm now doing this just in case , and I'd like to get financing for a new car, I have two pieces of crap and Id like to get something a tad bit more reliable. again thanks guys.






March 11th orientation.
No credit check.
Class will start end of April beginning of May.
Said 28 per class nothing about this so called "double class".
60 showed up today. That means that with the approximately 55 that showed on Friday about 85 are out already.

[SCPS PO]

I believe they said they are not sure if it will be a double class or not. The final count for the March 11th orientation was 58 present, 42 absent.

[gbotj]

Its looking like another double class again, TBTA called the same amount last time and about the same amount showed up to the orientation (s).

well good luck to all, hopefully we all make it on here.

[MasterMason]

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[gbotj]

there was one guy at my orientation who didnt have any dates filled in on his packets and couldnt even make a guess on it. ALOT of people showed up in jeans and T shirts which I thought was very disrespectful, and unprofessional.

[MasterMason]

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[SCPS PO]

At times, orientation felt like a high school assembly. D. Wells did say that the selection process is subject to the 1 in 3 rule. Overheard a few candidates talk about their various collars and saw it on a few more applications. The gentleman in front of me was all of a young age (under 21, his permit had red letters to the same effect) and I saw a stack of court disposition papers for which I assume were for past arrests. I don't think being collared is the end of the world, we in the business known that emotions run high sometimes and self control is lacking. Not an excuse but someone who is young and has gotten in trouble with the law shows a lack of judgment and in my opinion needs to show they can stay out of trouble for a few years and show the maturity necessary to be given a gun and powers of arrest. Heck, there are some people that I have worked with who are older and lack judgment so who knows.

[MasterMason]

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[RomanArts]

Wow. I think you guys should be more concerned with getting your job and passing all the stages, and not worry about others, most of the people that are not qualified for the job or are not fit for the job will be dq'ed. So just handle your business and stop worrying about other, because one of those people might be covering your @ss and at that point you wont care what he was arrested for as a juvenile or what kinda experience he had prior to this job or what he/she was wearing for the orientation. How bout that?

[RomanArts]

BY the way I just want to make this clear that was just my 2 Cents and its only my opinion, I might be wrong. Good luck with the process. lol

[gbotj]

we (I atleast) didnt mean to get into others business, but for the person I talked about didnt put any effort into the packets (couldnt even guess on his dates) from being around the person and hearing him speak he seems like a nice enough guy.

Although, we do sound a bit like wash women right now. lol.

[RomanArts]

Ohhh GBOTJ dont get me wrong man it was just a statement I made, and believe me some will prob slip through the cracks but most will get DQ'ed (by most obviously I mean the ones that arent fit and arent qualified and the ones that are deemed insane lol), but it seemed to me for a second that you are (and by your are i mean you, master mason and whoever else) doubting this agency and this agencies hiring process. thats all. Once again I am gonna apologize if I disrespected anyone with this comment , DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONAL, I just made an observation and spoke my mind and it wasnt meant to offend anyone.

[MasterMason]

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[SCPS PO]

Not a problem Roman. I was just stating my observations as well.

[gbotj]

"doubting this agency and this agencies hiring process"


you dont have to apologize, thats the tricky thing about internet forums. You can type the words but you cant type the way you want them to come across, like tone/pause/expression/ how you phrase it/ or re word it after another person makes a post. I was merely stating this individuals lack of initiative or time invested in the job. I do believe the agency takes note of these things, and although nothing is said things do stick out to them.

but no reason to apologize, I dont think anyone was upset with what you said.

[MasterMason]

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[MasterMason]

Let’s stop this. Let’s get back to questions about the job and the hiring process.

Has anyone gone to MAC 5 in Coney Island? Is there parking over there? When do they let us know what time we need to be there on the 28th?

[gbotj]

"gbotj, we are a very passionate on this forum to become LEO's and if this is the only place that you can express your opinion because your certainly not going to call up any agency and express to them how you feel. Then I say it’s fine to let it out here."

when did I say it wasnt? I was posting the same thing as you about the people at the orientation.

I believe there is decent parking down at MAC 5 (thats on ave. X right?), you will not be there for more than 5 minutes. All you do is sign in to security, then go into the mac center sign in at the desk and then sit down for about 1 minute. They then take you into a little room w/ a bathroom and you pee in the cup then initial it, sign a paper and your out the door.

[gbotj]

master, theres a few parking lots around the center and you can also park on the side streets.

[MasterMason]

gbotj, here we go with not being able to express ourselves properly. I wasn't directing it towards you in that way. I was just stating we should be able to express what we feel here since we are not able to call the agency. Believe me I’m still ****ed the way they handled everything I stated earlier. Even though I never met you and didn’t go to the same orientation as you. I know that both you and I were on time, in a suit and had all of our documentation. I hope that some how helps us both out. By the way thanks for the help.

[gbotj]

dont you just love the internet. haha.


Yeah, but like I said I think they take note of the people dressed right and prepared IMO.

No problem for the help, if you want to get an actual view of the MAC center just go to local.live.com and type in the address, then go to "birds eye view" and you can get a look at the whole area and where you might want to park.

[KayWhy]

The mta wants to cut the numner of bto's in the future. Go to the ny daily news site and look up pete donohue's article "Hi tech may put end to mta tolls".

we have a note in our contract which states that guarantees security against automation ie when ez-pass was atablished, which actually created more jobs if anything the tbta will just have a hiring freeze not a layoff , besides it takes a long time for something like that to go into effect, think about it why would they pay to train two classes full of btos just to lay them off, they'll find stuff for us to do

[KayWhy]

just remember they dq in academy too so they might slip through the orientation stages but they might not make it through academy i had a few in my class...romanarts can agree....also remeber we are brothers in blue and maybe some might not be up to par but they might save your backside one day so dont judge the look of the cover some people just dont know until there shown, i went to orientation in busness casual..a tie yeah but no jacket, and 65% came in jeans and tshirts but it didnt matter cause i came in busness attire i think thats what roman was trying to say, when he said just worry about yourself, yeah you might think you would be a better officer but dont hate the guys who slouch just because they got a higher score, just hang in there the list was just established there is plenty of time to get hired, and in the next 5 years there will be quite a few retirments and promotions which equalls oppertunity for the patient waiters

[gbotj]

hey KayWhy, how have you been bro? Good to see you posting again.

Theres an article on the automated tellers on the union page, the pres. basically said it wouldnt have an impact on bto's because they are still needed to patrol the bridges and tunnels.

[SCPS PO]

I got home and received a letter from HR giving the time and location of the PAT. I called D. Wells to confirm my attendance but got her machine. Should I just leave a message or call back on Monday and make sure she gets the message?

[MasterMason]

I would leave a message and call on Monday. Is it scheduled for the 28th?

[SCPS PO]

The test is scheduled for the 28th.

[Miro1118]

Just my 2 cents..... Don't second guess anything about the process, right on through the academy. Thats one thing that will get you into trouble in the academy. They don't like to be second guessed (Rightly so - they have the experience) Just keep your mouth closed and ears open and you will do fine.

Good luck to you all.

[gbotj]

I didnt get mine yet, do we have to take a bus over like the last group or can we now go onto randalls island by car?

[PlainSilverTin]

looks like we can't drive in, letter states we can't park on randalls but there will be a shuttle provided. i'm assuming the ones that got this letter passed their p in a cup test...

i went to MAC 1 and it took forever!!!! had a weird procedure where we had to punch our paper in on some clock then put it in a slot that was in the actual testing area...and ofcourse a bus driver had her jacket over the clock so i'm standing there for 5 minutes looking for the damn thing before i finally asked where it was... took me almost 45 minutes to get out. parking was easy at that site, on street meter parking (got a spot right smack in front of the building) and lots of garages in that area...



see ya'll on the 28th i'll be suffering the coronary when i finish the run. does anyone actually know what setting up 4 cones entails... do they give us 4 cones to set up in a line or what? Roman can you shed some light?

[SCPS PO]

I haven't taken my drug test yet. I think it's just a letter that goes out to everyone who attended orientation and did not decline the job. As PlainSilverTin said, shuttle is provided. Now I have to look for a garage in Manhattan close to the shuttle. Any suggestions?

[gw35]

does anyone actually know what setting up 4 cones entails... do they give us 4 cones to set up in a line or what? Roman can you shed some light?

There are 4 cones set up on the side of the start/finish line; you'll see them when you're on the line to start your run. When you cross the finish line you have to get these cones and place them on top of the box shaped figure painted on the concrete. These boxes are right before the start/finish line and you'll also see them when you step up to the line.

Regardless of how tire you may be but I will suggest to grab 2 cones at a time and just "drop" them on the boxes. You'll see that these cones will feel like heavy weights by the end of your run and by placing them neatly inside these boxes will only waste time, but don't drop them that they tip over and fall because them you have to set it back upright and waste more time.

The cones are part of the the run and have to be done by the 7 1/2 minutes provided.

Good luck to all.

[SCPS PO]

Does everyone run at the same time or is it one person on the track or is it a staggered run? Is the test in order or does everyone go to a different station while waiting?

[gw35]

Does everyone run at the same time or is it one person on the track or is it a staggered run? Is the test in order or does everyone go to a different station while waiting?

The groups are of 10 and it does not go by list number, at least when I was there back in Dec. Once they have a group of 10 they will take them to different stages. Some may go to the interview first while others are running, trigger pulling etc. Its a crap shoot.

For the run phase, though, they'll have 5 of the 10 run first and then the 2nd 5. For each phase, except the interview, the group of 10 will remain together.

[PlainSilverTin]

gw35 thanks for the info, just want to clear up, there is a box for each cone right? thanks for the insight... even though i pretty much know whats going to go on i'm still worried....lol

[vab1978]

Great info, thanks gw.

Can you tell use about the stairs? Does two complete circuits mean up two flights of stairs (with landings in between the flights) and then back down?

One last question, is there time to rest in between the 3 fitness tests or are they one right after the other?

[gw35]

gw35 thanks for the info, just want to clear up, there is a box for each cone right? thanks for the insight... even though i pretty much know whats going to go on i'm still worried....lol

Yes, there is a box for each cone. sorry for not being clear the first time. Its perfectly natural to be worry but all you can do is your very best and be so determine to get through to the next phase.

Good luck to you and everyone else.

[gw35]

Great info, thanks gw.

Can you tell use about the stairs? Does two complete circuits mean up two flights of stairs (with landings in between the flights) and then back down?

One last question, is there time to rest in between the 3 fitness tests or are they one right after the other?

The 2 flights of stairs have two landings and you will have to do this a total 4 times. What I mean s go up and down, go back up and back down. The great thing about this stage is that you must hold on to the hand rails (safety first) throughout this stage and this gives you support to pull yourself up those stairs if needed. Also, the top landing must be touch with both feet. When I did the PT back in December, I did the stairs after the run. We had about a 15 min break back in the building and my legs still felt like rubber at the time that we did the stairs. Those hand rails really came in handy.

Depending on the circumstances you will have some time in between each phase more than the other groups. I happened to do the trigger pull first and then waited for about 5 minutes before they took us out to do the run. Once outside, we waited for about 10 - 15 minutes because there was another group of 10 half way done with their run. Now, after the run, with the time it took us to gather up our stuff, walk back to the building, through the entrance, up the stairs, and then being told to wait to see whether we were going to do the interview first or the stairs, that must have been about 25 to 30 minutes total. Another 10 if you include the time it took them to take us to the stairs, told to wait, and then have the purpose and directions explain to us, some questions here and there. Plus, everything is done by list number, so if you have a low list number you get to go first in everything except for the interview. That part was pretty much a crap shoot IMO.

[PlainSilverTin]

Great info gw, thanks again. goodluck everyone.

[SCPS PO]

Anyone else here with a 1030 time?

[gbotj]

can we skip steps or do we have to touch each step?

[MasterMason]

How man steps are there?

[gw35]

can we skip steps or do we have to touch each step?

You can skip steps but its better doing it when you are going up. And when going down, you can not jump those last 2 or 3 steps. Also, you must touch the top landing with both feet.

[gw35]

How man steps are there?

If I had to guess, I believe I remember the staircase having 15 steps, maybe 18 but don't quote.

[gbotj]

gw, thanks for all the help.

[MasterMason]

Wow, I was thinking that a staircase was more like 25-30 steps.

[vab1978]

Hey SCPS,

My physical agility and fitness test is at 0900, and the shuttle bus pick up is half an hour before that. How about the rest of you?

It sounds like the stairs may be harder than the run.

[spaceghost1]

hello all,

just wanted to say good luck to all candidates hope all do well. one word of advice, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE STAIRS, is tougher than it sounds and it took down quite a bit of candidates last class..... you can skip steps on way up and down, just be mindful they are looking for you to do this in as safe a manner as possible. give it your all in the run, it is more challenging if you havent run in a while. dont just sit around and wait for the PAT to roll around, go out and jog to get your stamina up. and practice the trigger pull by holding a quart or half gallon of milk straight out.... if you can do this for a minute straight witout your arms shaking, your ok. also it takes strenght to actually pull the trigger its self. i saw people get dq jus for not being able to pull trigger... just some friendly advice...

goodluck;)

[SCPS PO]

vab, Good luck to you and everyone else on the PAT. The letter I received said everything will take about 4 hours. Is this a valid claim?

[PlainSilverTin]

If I had to guess, I believe I remember the staircase having 15 steps, maybe 18 but don't quote.

gw, is that per landing or total for both landings? also do the stairs curve around after the first landing or is it just straight up with a landing in the middle breaking up the total number of steps. thanks again

[SCPS PO]

gw, is that per landing or total for both landings? also do the stairs curve around after the first landing or is it just straight up with a landing in the middle breaking up the total number of steps. thanks again

I'm thinking more that it's one set of stairs and you go up and down twice.

[Ant61683]

Good Luck to all that have their PAT's coming up !
Eat well the night before but not to much so you don't throw up in the instructor :D

[seveinsins]

hey Ant61683 did you get a start date for Sanitation?

[LEIsMyLife21]

Good Luck to Everyone!!! try to keep your head in the game and you'll be fine!! Just remember, if you want it, you can do it!! thats how i made it through everything!! I wish you all the best...and when the time comes...dont give anything less than your best!!!

[gbotj]

hey LE, good to see you posting again. How have you been?

[vab1978]

Hey LEI,

Long time no post! How is the academy? Are there two sessions? What hours is the academy?

Thanks for your good words. I have the PAT coming up on the 28th - will definately give it my all.

[gbotj]

hey vab, the academy is run in 2 squads. 7am-3pm and 3pm-11pm. I believe higher list numbers are on days and lower list numbers are on nights.

(depending on how you look at the list numbers, I mean high as on list number 1, and low as in list number 280)

vab, good luck on the physical. Im in an earlier group than you.

[seveinsins]

Is the BI the same as other NYC civil service jobs or different because it's LE?
Do you get the big envelope with the stack of forms that you have to write your ss# and initial every page then a money order for finger print fees made out to DOI?

[Ant61683]

From what i hear noone has received anything yet.. They say it should be anyday now considering that they're going to start CDL at FBF in April.. With my rank number i know im the first class off the list ... But if you want i will message you once i get it !

[tnelly711]

hey does anyone else have a 7:00 start time for the 28th ?...i figure to get there at 6:15 ...dont want to take any chance of missing the shuttle bus...hopefully ill be able to sleep the night before having to get up early like that....does anyone know which part is next after the agility test?..and how long after?