Tbta 2065

[Cadet2020]

Yea long test, less people than the orientation, but still more than 50...and since there are Jan dates set for the oral psych....I guess the academy would start at the end of Jan....damn, its going to be a looongggg end of December.....

[Viper2007]

DOCSatthegunk, not until 2010 or 2011... TBTA does a test every 4 yrs, The last one was in May 2007. I'm finishing the process up now...

[gbotj]

viper check your inbox.

[LEIsMyLife21]

any ideas on what to expect for the oral psych anyone??

[RomanArts]

Ok people this is getting out of hand here listen i am gonna make something clear to everyone, this post is to help the hopefulls out if you dont know the answer just sit back and dont just blurt things out. The mta b&t legal name Triborough bridge and tunnells authority. Bto are NYS peace officers that ddoooooooooooooooooo Have the CIVIL Service status. This is straight off our union page:

Bridge & Tunnel Officers are New York State Peace Officers, who patrol New York City's Toll Bridges & Tunnels.


Bridge & Tunnel Officers are a unique group of dedicated, highly trained men and women who serve and protect the New York metro area motoring public. Bridge & Tunnel Officers are a multi-task force performing law enforcement, firefighting, emergency rescue, revenue/ EZ PASS control and public service functions for MTA Bridges & Tunnels.

Bridge & Tunnel Officers receive training in accordance with the New York State Municipal Police Training Council standards, New York City Fire Department training, American Red Cross First Aid/CPR training and MTA Bridges & Tunnels Training Academy.

Bridge &Tunnel Officers saves lives...make your trip safe... and help people. If you need assistance, feel ill or witness a crime on any of our bridges & tunnels or surrounding area, please tell a Bridge & Tunnel officer that you need help.
AND THIs IS STRAIGHT FROM MTA B&T PAGE: By the 1960s the city was becoming choked by automobile congestion and pollution, and the need to restore long neglected subway, bus, and commuter rail systems became apparent. Accordingly, in 1968 the Tribororough Bridge and Tunnel Authority was made part of the MTA. Its surplus revenues, previously used to finance new projects for the automobile, were redirected to public transportation. Since that time, bridge and tunnel tolls have contributed more than $12 billion to subsidize fares and underwrite capital improvements for New York City Transit, the Long Island Rail Road, and the Metro-North Railroad. Total toll revenues, more than $ 1 billion annually, and Bridges and Tunnels' Five Year Capital Program will keep its facilities among the best maintained in the region.

AND ITS BEYOND ME WHY RMTCQUEEN BE ON THIS POST IF HE/SHE CHOSE A "BETTER JOB" WHY COME ON TO THIS THREAD AND POST RANDOM THIS AND RANDOM ANSWERS. ITS NO TLIKE YOU WERE A BTO AND CHOOSE TO CHANGE OVER TO DOC. SO IN MY OPINION YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE 2 JOBS. ALSO LIKE I PREVIOUSLY SAID THIS POST IS TO HELP HOPEFULLS WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME HERE BRINGING PEOPLES HOPES DOWN AND LOWERING THE MORALE.

[gbotj]

+1 roman, that was my argument.

Hey roman can you answer a question for me. I'm sending you a PM.

[RomanArts]

I ACTUALLY HAVE ON EMORE THING TO SAY THE REASON WHY WE GO THROUGH DCAS IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE CIVIL SERVICE STATUS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT DCAS IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT CAN DO THE HIRING AND PROCESSING FOR US. The Department of Citywide Administrative Services (DCAS) works to ensure that City agencies have the critical resources and support needed to provide the best possible services to the public.

[rtmcqueen]

Ok people this is getting out of hand here listen i am gonna make something clear to everyone, this post is to help the hopefulls out if you dont know the answer just sit back and dont just blurt things out. The mta b&t legal name Triborough bridge and tunnells authority. Bto are NYS peace officers that ddoooooooooooooooooo Have the CIVIL Service status. This is straight off our union page:

Bridge & Tunnel Officers are New York State Peace Officers, who patrol New York City's Toll Bridges & Tunnels.


Bridge & Tunnel Officers are a unique group of dedicated, highly trained men and women who serve and protect the New York metro area motoring public. Bridge & Tunnel Officers are a multi-task force performing law enforcement, firefighting, emergency rescue, revenue/ EZ PASS control and public service functions for MTA Bridges & Tunnels.

Bridge & Tunnel Officers receive training in accordance with the New York State Municipal Police Training Council standards, New York City Fire Department training, American Red Cross First Aid/CPR training and MTA Bridges & Tunnels Training Academy.

Bridge &Tunnel Officers saves lives...make your trip safe... and help people. If you need assistance, feel ill or witness a crime on any of our bridges & tunnels or surrounding area, please tell a Bridge & Tunnel officer that you need help.
AND THIs IS STRAIGHT FROM MTA B&T PAGE: By the 1960s the city was becoming choked by automobile congestion and pollution, and the need to restore long neglected subway, bus, and commuter rail systems became apparent. Accordingly, in 1968 the Tribororough Bridge and Tunnel Authority was made part of the MTA. Its surplus revenues, previously used to finance new projects for the automobile, were redirected to public transportation. Since that time, bridge and tunnel tolls have contributed more than $12 billion to subsidize fares and underwrite capital improvements for New York City Transit, the Long Island Rail Road, and the Metro-North Railroad. Total toll revenues, more than $ 1 billion annually, and Bridges and Tunnels' Five Year Capital Program will keep its facilities among the best maintained in the region.

AND ITS BEYOND ME WHY RMTCQUEEN BE ON THIS POST IF HE/SHE CHOSE A "BETTER JOB" WHY COME ON TO THIS THREAD AND POST RANDOM THIS AND RANDOM ANSWERS. ITS NO TLIKE YOU WERE A BTO AND CHOOSE TO CHANGE OVER TO DOC. SO IN MY OPINION YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE 2 JOBS. ALSO LIKE I PREVIOUSLY SAID THIS POST IS TO HELP HOPEFULLS WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME HERE BRINGING PEOPLES HOPES DOWN AND LOWERING THE MORALE.


Easy, Easy, i only answer questions that i do know the answers too. I was trying to help the ones that were going throught the process. and for your info before any of you posted about MTA BTO I did before i started the process. remeber trainman..... and i never said DOC is a better job I said when i had the choice of the 2 i went with DOC... The info i posted about the process i bet it was dead on the money. You have to read throught the BS. You have people that post that don't do there homework and get upset when you correct them. like i said if anyone needs the right info just ask without all the BS.

[RomanArts]

Coool Just Making My Opinion Known Thats All.

[RomanArts]

By The Way Any Of You Comment Check This Thread All The Way To The Beginning. I Only Posted What I Thought Was Necessary At The Given Time. And If U See My Post S There Is Def No Bull****

[LEIsMyLife21]

hey roman do u have any good tips for the oral psych and what to expect?

[Tor319]

i was under the assumption that mta employees were not civil service employees as they are employees of a state authority and not a state agency. also my brother who is a mta conductor also told me that. not to mention mta employees dont go to OATH hearings when the mta is trying to fire them which is basicly the court system for the nyc civil service system which what city agencies usually have to go through to fire some one. if i'm wrong my apologies. however i was working off of the above info.

[gbotj]

the TBTA and I believe the old Metro North PD were the olny 2 civil service jobs under MTA

[DOCSatTheGunk]

I took the Westchester Cty Corrections exam..Guess I'll have to suck it up untill TBTA comes out with an exam...

[rtmcqueen]

i was under the assumption that mta employees were not civil service employees as they are employees of a state authority and not a state agency. also my brother who is a mta conductor also told me that. not to mention mta employees dont go to OATH hearings when the mta is trying to fire them which is basicly the court system for the nyc civil service system which what city agencies usually have to go through to fire some one. if i'm wrong my apologies. however i was working off of the above info.

well i will give you the correct info, all jobs givin by DCAS is civil service. even mta, mabsta,Bto. i'm only talking about the one's where you take test for (busdriver,conductor, Bto etc) they all are under oath. now mta police that was metro north police are not civil service. they are the private police of MTA. they wish they were under the city to get to go to oath because they can be fired at anytime. you can go to the oath web page a do a search for BTO and you will see a couple of cases that they posted.

[gbotj]

MTAPD is not a private police department they are a government organization covered under HR218. No private PD is covered under HR218.

[Jayc6018]

well i will give you the correct info, all jobs givin by DCAS is civil service. even mta, mabsta,Bto. i'm only talking about the one's where you take test for (busdriver,conductor, Bto etc) they all are under oath. now mta police that was metro north police are not civil service. they are the private police of MTA. they wish they were under the city to get to go to oath because they can be fired at anytime. you can go to the oath web page a do a search for BTO and you will see a couple of cases that they posted.

man you are completely wrong about MTA police, they are fully sworn officers as well as PAPD.

[rtmcqueen]

[QUOTE=Jayc6018;1039636]man you are completely wrong about MTA police, they are fully sworn officers as well as PAPD.[/Q

again you guys don't do your homework, MTA police aka metro north police is not civil service, state or city or fed. they are the police force for metro north & Lirr the have full police power BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE CIVIL SERVICE WHICH MAKES THEM PRIVATE-(CIVIL SERVICE IS BTO, NYPD, NYDOC, SANITATION, FED POLICE, STATE POLICE, PARKS POLICE) please do your homework first before you post. and i would know first hand as my brother is a Capt. there. man were are you guys getting your info from.

[Jayc6018]

....... well if you say so but we all know what it really is, doesn't make sense to argue back and forth it proves nothing.

[gbotj]

MTA Police is made of Metro North PD, LIRR Police, and Staten Island Rapid Transit Police.

In NYS Statutes a POLICE OFFICER CANNOT BE A PRIVATE TITLE. ONLY GOV'T POSITIONS CAN GIVE PO STATUS. You can only give peace officer status to private organizations. I'm not saying they are civil service, just not private police.

[NYCTNT]

Correct in regards to civil service status,

MTAPD are NOT civil service, eventhough they give out an examination.

PORT AUTHORITY PD is also NOT civil service.


GB,

See, there is a small LOOPHOLE. The MTA is a PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION for the STATE OF NEW YORK. They are essentially a "BUSINESS" operating and running the show FOR the STATE OF NEW YORK. Is it partially a government entity, YES.
Is it partially private, YES. Does being a PBC money maker for the state of new york have some leverage on Albany law makers? OF COURSE.

Lets not get worked up on who is and who cant be a police/peace officer.

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1.20.34. "Police officer." The following persons are police officers:
(a) A sworn member of the division of state police;
(b) Sheriffs, under-sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of counties outside
of New York City;
(c) A sworn officer of an authorized county or county parkway police
department;
(d) A sworn officer of an authorized police department or force of a
city, town, village or police district;
(e) A sworn officer of an authorized police department of an authority
or a sworn officer of the state regional park police in the office of
parks and recreation;
(f) A sworn officer of the capital police force of the office of
general services;
(g) An investigator employed in the office of a district attorney;
(h) An investigator employed by a commission created by an interstate
compact who is, to a substantial extent, engaged in the enforcement of
the criminal laws of this state;
(i) The chief and deputy fire marshals, the supervising fire marshals
and the fire marshals of the bureau of fire investigation of the New
York City fire department;
(j) A sworn officer of the division of law enforcement in the
department of environmental conservation;
(k) A sworn officer of a police force of a public authority created by
an interstate compact;
(l) Long Island railroad police.
(m) A special investigator employed in the statewide organized crime
task force, while performing his assigned duties pursuant to section
seventy-a of the executive law.
(n) A sworn officer of the Westchester county department of public
safety services who, on or prior to June thirtieth, nineteen hundred
seventy-nine was appointed as a sworn officer of the division of
Westchester county parkway police or who was appointed on or after July
first, nineteen hundred seventy-nine to the title of police officer,
sergeant, lieutenant, captain or inspector or who, on or prior to
January thirty-first, nineteen hundred eighty-three, was appointed as a
Westchester county deputy sheriff.
(o) A sworn officer of the water-supply police employed by the city of
New York, appointed to protect the sources, works, and transmission of
water supplied to the city of New York, and to protect persons on or in
the vicinity of such water sources, works, and transmission.
(p) Persons appointed as railroad policemen pursuant to section
eighty-eight of the railroad law.
* (q) An employee of the department of taxation and finance (i)
assigned to enforcement of the taxes imposed under or pursuant to the
authority of article twelve-A of the tax law and administered by the
commissioner of taxation and finance, taxes imposed under or pursuant to
the authority of article eighteen of the tax law and administered by the
commissioner, taxes imposed under article twenty of the tax law, or
sales or compensating use taxes relating to automotive fuel or
cigarettes imposed under article twenty-eight or pursuant to the
authority of article twenty-nine of the tax law and administered by the
commissioner or (ii) designated as a revenue crimes specialist and
assigned to the enforcement of the taxes described in paragraph (c) of
subdivision four of section 2.10 of this title, for the purpose of
applying for and executing search warrants under article six hundred
ninety of this chapter, for the purpose of acting as a claiming agent
under article thirteen-A of the civil practice law and rules in
connection with the enforcement of the taxes referred to above and for
the purpose of executing warrants of arrest relating to the respective
crimes specified in subdivision four of section 2.10 of this title.
* NB Effective until October 31, 2007
* (q) An employee of the department of taxation and finance (i)
assigned to enforcement of the taxes imposed under or pursuant to the
authority of article twelve-A of the tax law and administered by the
commissioner of taxation and finance, taxes imposed under article twenty
of the tax law, or sales or compensating use taxes relating to
automotive fuel or cigarettes imposed under article twenty-eight or
pursuant to the authority of article twenty-nine of the tax law and
administered by the commissioner of taxation and finance or (ii)
designated as a revenue crimes specialist and assigned to the
enforcement of the taxes described in paragraph (c) of subdivision four
of section 2.10 of this title, for the purpose of applying for and
executing search warrants under article six hundred ninety of this
chapter, for the purpose of acting as a claiming agent under article
thirteen-A of the civil practice law and rules in connection with the
enforcement of the taxes referred to above and for the purpose of
executing warrants of arrest relating to the respective crimes specified
in subdivision four of section 2.10 of this title.
* NB Effective October 31, 2007
(r) Any employee of the Suffolk county department of parks who is
appointed as a Suffolk county park police officer.
(s) A university police officer appointed by the state university
pursuant to paragraph 1 of subdivision two of section three hundred
fifty-five of the education law.
(t) A sworn officer of the department of public safety of the Buffalo
municipal housing authority who has achieved or been granted the status
of sworn police officer and has been certified by the division of
criminal justice services as successfully completing an approved basic
course for police officers.
(u) Persons appointed as Indian police officers pursuant to section
one hundred fourteen of the Indian law.

[gbotj]

yes, but they are not private police. They are a quasi government agency but to solely say they are private is wrong.

[rtmcqueen]

yes, but they are not private police. They are a quasi government agency but to solely say they are private is wrong.

wow, you just don't get it

[gbotj]

NO you dont get it.

Your going to tell me that they are 100% private police?

[NYCTNT]

A true govt entity, NO.
100% private, NO.

75% private.. I can agree to that.

The only 25% they have saying they are not totally private is their business end to the State of New York, which is = $$$$$$$$$.


"The Metropolitan Transportation Authority was established under New York State Public
Authorities Law and is a public benefit corporation and a component unit of the State of New York
whose mission is to continue, develop, and improve public transportation and to develop and
implement a unified public transportation policy in the New York metropolitan area."

MTA Related Groups
• Headquarters (“MTAHQ”) - provides general oversight, planning, and administration, including
budget, cash management, finance, legal, real estate, treasury, risk management, and other
functions to the related groups listed below.
• The Long Island Rail Road Company (“LIRR”) - provides passenger transportation between
New York City and Long Island.
• Metro-North Commuter Railroad Company (“MNCR”) - provides passenger transportation
between New York City and the suburban communities in Westchester, Dutchess, Putnam,
Orange, and Rockland counties in New York State and New Haven and Fairfield counties in
Connecticut.
• Staten Island Rapid Transit Operating Authority (“SIRTOA”) - provides passenger rail
transportation on Staten Island.
• Metropolitan Suburban Bus Authority (“MSBA”) - provides public bus service in Nassau and
Queens Counties.
• First Mutual Transportation Assurance Company (“FMTAC’) - operates as a captive insurance
company to provide insurance coverage for property and primary liability.
• New York City Transit Authority (“NYCTA”) and its subsidiary, the Manhattan and Bronx
Surface Transit Operating Authority (“MaBSTOA”) - provide subway and public bus service
within the five boroughs of New York City.
• Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority (“TBTA”) - operates seven toll bridges, two tunnels,
and the Battery Parking Garage.
• MTA Capital Construction Company (“Capital Construction”) – provides oversight for the
planning, design, and construction of current and future major MTA system expansion projects.
• MTA Bus Company (“MTA Bus”) – operates certain bus routes in areas previously served by
private bus operators pursuant to franchises granted by the City.

[NYCTNT]

Futher breakdown of WHAT IS A PUBLIC AUTHORITY:
Public authorities are corporate instruments of the State created by the legislature to further public interests. Public authorities are legally and administratively autonomous from the State. Each public authority is governed by a separate board of directors, with the majority of directors appointed by the Governor and/or Legislature.

Though created by the State, public authorities are subject to neither the State Constitutional limits on the incurrence of debt nor legislative budget approval process.

Public authorities vary in their degree of fiscal autonomy from the State. Some public authorities are completely self supporting while others rely on State grants to fund their operations. Much of the long-term debt for which the State is responsible has been issued by a variety of public authorities with a contractual promise from the State to fund the debt service payments.

The financial position and operating results of most of the public authorities presented here are included in the State's financial statements prepared under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP). Notable exceptions are the Municipal Assistance Corporation for the City of New York and the United Nations Development Corporation, both of which are included in New York City's GAAP Financial Statements.

[Jayc6018]

NO you dont get it.

Your going to tell me that they are 100% private police?

man don't argue with him, the info is right there and he refuses to see it.

[LEIsMyLife21]

has anyone gone for their oral psych yet?? any ideas on what to expect??

[Cadet2020]

Yea good you mention it LEIsMyLife21, unfortunately some have to wait till the new year while some have the oral psych this week. Lets forget about being technical in defining the TBTA... instead lets focus on the last step of the process which is the oral psych...

[LEIsMyLife21]

yea cadet you're right..i liked coming on this forum to get some insight to the job and the processing, and all the bickering and technical stuff makes its kind of annoying to even come on here...

its a helpful site and a good way to talk to other hopefuls, and i hope we can get back to the way it was...

my oral is on the 5th...im alittle nervous not knowing what to expect...so anyone who happens to go through it first keep us posted...and as always...good luck to everyone!

[DOAcop38]

can't find a full fledged website for the TBTA officers unit/Dept (???) maybe one of you "future" officers or a current one can create a website that has specific details, contact info and PR photos for the general public

[jmscat14]

LEIsMyLife21, your right all the bickering and technical stuff should be left out before i became a bto this site was very helpful and it was about getting good info about the process.The oral psych was quick i was there for 10 minutes.He will ask you some questions, if your normal then your fine if your crazy then give up now.Just read my past post, again i love this job.

[LEIsMyLife21]

thanks jmscat...im not crazy and hopefully he sees that so i can get this job...id love to and i really want it...just gotta keep my fingures crossed and hope for the 1st academy!!

[Viper2007]

DOAcop, just google BTOBA and you will get the TBTA BTO union webpage. The Sgt's and Lt's have their own union.. but I am not too sure about a website for them.

[gbotj]

yeah the sgt.'s and lt.'s have a union site.

google "TBTA SOBA"

[vab1978]

Assuming there are 60 people or 2 classes of candidates from the November orientation who make it through the physical, BI, psych, etc., then when will the next group (list number 251+) get hired?

Will the first two classes go into the academy in January or will they be January and April? If they are January and April, then will the next group get hired in July?

[gbotj]

the next group will be hired in july. They are going to begin processing again in march/ early april.

I hope alot of people are failed (none of you though just the people who really dont want the job, just to go along with the processing) and they would need to process more for april 08'

[Miro1118]

Does anyone know how the rest of the process will go dowm? I was wondering if/when we would hear about the results of the medical. Do we need to wait until its all done and they send an "In" or "out" note? How much notice will we get either way? Is it a call or a letter?

[gbotj]

dont hold me to it but you only get letters if you failed or a notification for the next step.

They do not send letters for the academy, they make phone calls.
and if its anything like the NYPD you'll get notice about 2 days before the academy starts (no lie). For my cousins with Nassau County Police they all recieved phone calls (Nassau also sends out letters to be sworn in) about 3 weeks prior to the start of the academy. Some classes are not set in stone until the 1st day, so it really depends on when they feel they are ready to put a class in, and when they have the resources for it. Good luck with everything. looks like it will be a week or two....nice way to start the new year.

[LEIsMyLife21]

when does everyone have their oral psych?

[bhavin115]

finally the ok to post.. first of i wanna say on the most part all of you give great info and please keep it up.. my first question is am on the list at 694 but i have not recieved any scores from dcas in the mail so is that normal or should i call them.. second question is when should i be expecting a call from tbta for processing i know its more then a year away but a ballpark figure is good for the moral lol thanks agian

[tnelly711]

i would like to say hi to everyone...i am new to this post...but i have been following since i took test #6091...i would like to thank most of you for the useful information..i have a question that i was wondering if someone can answer...my list # is 270 and i havent recieved any info yet..other then my score and list number...should i be worried?...also i am probably moving in about a week or 2...is there a number i can call to change my adress? also is there any number i can call to check and see what list number they are on? i would greatly appriciate the help!

[gbotj]

tnelly.....You should have gotten a packet I was only a few (less than 10) people below you, and they sent one to me. Sadly right now your disqualified because you never sent a reinstatement letter in. I'd call TBTA Human Resources AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Hopefully its not too late for you.

[tnelly711]

oh man ..you wouldnt happent to have the # for tbta hr would you? or know where i can get it?

[gbotj]

I posted it a couple pages back.

[tnelly711]

okay thanks alot ...man i hope its not to late ..did u start the process yet?

[gbotj]

no, I'm in the same boat as you, my packet was lost in the mail, and I had to defer to the next group (march 2008)

[SCPS PO]

Hi All,

I have a few questions and I was hoping someone who is already otj with TBTA can answer.

From my understanding of your chart, you never work more than 4 days straight unless you opt for OT or get drafted. Could someone enlighten me on how your chart works? Is there a steady chart? I further understand you bid on your facility and tour upon completion of training. How difficult is it to get the specific tour you want?

I didn't see the length of sick or vacation days from DCAS NOE. Can anyone advise? I'm assuming all officers work straight 8's? Any chance for chart days? Is OT taken in time or straight cash?

In regards to off duty firearms, do you carry your service glock or can you opt for the 26 or is there a specific list of authorized firearms?

Any and all answers would be greatly appreciated.

[tnelly711]

hey gbotj i called the human resource dept. they told me that they only went up to 225 and that the only thing i should have recieved in the mail was score and list #

[LEIsMyLife21]

Idk Tnelly, in my group during the physical part of the process there was a candidate with list number 275...and im 265

[gbotj]

thats what the guy at HR told me too, this was before the orientation and everything to I didnt think anything was wrong. Then I recieved a notice in the mail. Those HR guys really need to clean up their act. They just want to get off the phone, and dont want to help.

[gbotj]

TBTA only allows you to carry the Glock 19 as your service auto, and the Glock 26 as your off-duty.

[SCPS PO]

I'm assuming the G26 is something the individual officer pays for?

[tnelly711]

wow thats not good...gbotj do you know the name of the h.r person you spoke to who cleared things up?..i keep getting the same guy and he told me the same thing..!!

[gbotj]

ask for deborah wells, you will have to write out a reinstatement letter and send it in. You are most likely talking to the same guy that gave me the wrong info. He told you they sent out packets to what they assumed to be 225 right? well my list number is in the 260's and I was sent one, and there are people like 275 who are being processed.

[Miro1118]

Anyone have any updates as to when the Academy will begin?

[LEIsMyLife21]

hey miro have you taken your oral psych yet? or anyone for that matter??

[Miro1118]

I am taking oral psych on the 7th. When are you taking it.

I am on pins and needles. I don't know if I passed the medical yet. I would feel better going into the psych if I knew I pased the medical.

[LEIsMyLife21]

im taking it on the 5th...why do you think you didnt pass the medical? if you dont mind me asking....

[Miro1118]

LE, just sent you a PM

[JohnieBK]

Hey Everyone, luckily for the TBTA BTO hopefulls, I have dropped out of processing. I made it to the medical (paid the $75 DCAS fingerprint fee, damnit) and decided I wanted to go with the NYPD instead. I don't feel the TBTA can offer as much as the NYPD can career wise. That's not knocking anyone on here, I wish you hopefulls the best of luck. There is a good chance I'll be in the NYPD academy starting Mon, Jan. 7.

PS. Don't put your list numbers on here. Anyone can go to the Chief Leader Newspaper online and look at the list and get your name. It's public information. If these boards are visited at by TBTA personnel they will know who you are and what type of comments you have made. Just use a range, I am in the 230ish range, keep it vague.

[mat07]

hey all, i can finally post after reading for so long. I already took the oral psych last thursday. its a pretty short process, about 10-15 min. I spent more time waiting than actually being questioned. Its pretty much just going over what you wrote about yourself during the written portion. There were about 3-4 questions on a sheet that were the same exact from the written so they're pretty much checking for consistency. well any questions feel free to ask. I'm just sitting back hopefully waiting for a letter or a phone call or something.

[rtmcqueen]

PS. Don't put your list numbers on here. Anyone can go to the Chief Leader Newspaper online and look at the list and get your name. It's public information. If these boards are visited at by TBTA personnel they will know who you are and what type of comments you have made. Just use a range, I am in the 230ish range, keep it vague.

JohnieBK, your the first one who got it right with how you find out who is who!!! good luck with your process with nypd

[gbotj]

good luck with NYPD.

[DOAcop38]

okay- so i finally understand this "peace officer vs.police officer" thing you guys have in NYC( and State ) but what about the academy training- it seems that in some parts of the state "peace officers" can go to the same area academy as the local "police and sheriffs".what is the basic training for the TBTA Officer compared to the NYPD officer-less ? comparable? Is it NYPD training facilities(assuming that BTOS are city employees like NYPD POs) or a seperate location all together.......

[JohnieBK]

Hey DOAcop, First off, I'm not LEO but I think I can answer your questions. The NYPD training is a 6 month academy owned and operated by the NYPD. Other smaller agencies such as the MTAPD (POLICE OFFICERS) have an agreement with the NYPD where their officers go through the NYPD academy. There may be other POLICE agencies that go to the NYPD academy but I don't know of any others. The TBTA has a PEACE OFFICER academy with in the city limits and it is approx. 3 months. POLICE officer training is always longer than PEACE officer training because the law requires it. I know for sure that the TBTA does not have any physical training at their academy besides basic tactics. No pushups, situps, running etc.

Has anyone mentioned "Special Patrolmen Status" yet? Look that one up DOA, another title to confuse you. They fall under peace officer status in NYS, some Special Patrolmen agencies include the New York Stock Exchange Police (not really police by law, but known as that, basically a few steps up from armed security guards). Taxi and Limousine commission officers are also Special Patrolmen among others. Special Patrolmen are deputized under the police commissioner of the local jurisdiction in which their job is in.

[Viper2007]

DOA- to clarify further... the legal difference is that Police Officers have more training and powers with 'stop and frisk' and 'search warrants'- hence, thier academy is longer. Police Officer academies spend more time on Terry V. Ohio and Belton V. NY type cases in their training... anyway, you get the point....

As far as carrying firearms in NYS go, everything is pretty much the same between the two. I believe TBTA is covered under HR 218 (as is NYCDOC), whether the management likes to admit it or not. NYS Courts, Sheriffs (also Peace Officers) and NYS DOCS are also covered under HR 218 for carrying firearms off duty. TBTA training is done on Randalls Island- in a different building from NYPD. Firearms training is done at Rodmans Neck- the same place as NYPD.

NYS has very convoluted statutes... I won't even attempt to make sence of it all. Start with NYS CPL 2.10 if you want to look into Police Officer vs. Peace Officer powers any further.

[gbotj]

just to add to vipers post you can view the NYS CPL online. Just do a search on NYS CPL 2.10

[tnelly711]

hey gbotj i just want to thank you for the info...you where right i called mrs.wells and she cleared everything up for me so i gotta fax over a reinstatement letter...what a relief ...hopefully ill see you in the next class...thanks again man!

[gbotj]

no problem, just looking out for another hopeful. Thats whats great about this website, we get to interact and help each other out.

Did she say anything on when the next group will be processed?

[Stackit02]

I know for sure that the TBTA does not have any physical training at their academy besides basic tactics. No pushups, situps, running etc.

Is this true? I have been training like crazy since I got the letter for orientation. There has to be some running involved, right? Not that I am going to stop training, but I'd like to know what I am training for.

[JohnieBK]

Is this true? I have been training like crazy since I got the letter for orientation. There has to be some running involved, right? Not that I am going to stop training, but I'd like to know what I am training for.

When I went down for the initial screening in December, the Director of HR said that there is no physical training in the academy. However, there is a job standard test, which is a .65 mile run in about 10 mins, if I remember correctly. Also, there is a stair climbing test and a trigger pull test. If you are running now you are good to go.

I remember at the orientation someone asked "How long is .65 miles?" the person presenting looked like "DUHHHH." It was funny.

[JohnieBK]

Double Post

[gbotj]

Johnie thats priceless. hahaha.

[Dinosaur32]

Not to go into the whole Police/Peace Office thing, but New York State Court Officers are the only peace officers with Stop and frisk authority. Court Officers are empowered to issue traffic summonses and parking tickets.

[LEIsMyLife21]

PS. Don't put your list numbers on here. Anyone can go to the Chief Leader Newspaper online and look at the list and get your name. It's public information. If these boards are visited at by TBTA personnel they will know who you are and what type of comments you have made. Just use a range, I am in the 230ish range, keep it vague.

JohnieBK, your the first one who got it right with how you find out who is who!!! good luck with your process with nypd


Why would it matter if they see what you are typing if you arent saying anything wrong?? If you have nothing to hide...them finding out who you are by your list number is the least of your worries with all of the processing we have been going through...just got home from my oral psych..wasnt bad at all...good luck to everyone who has made it to this step!!

[gbotj]

good luck LE

[JohnieBK]

Why would it matter if they see what you are typing if you arent saying anything wrong?? If you have nothing to hide...them finding out who you are by your list number is the least of your worries with all of the processing we have been going through...just got home from my oral psych..wasnt bad at all...good luck to everyone who has made it to this step!!

Hey LE, not only can the HR people find out who you are, but if you are having a shouting match on the forum with someone, that person can easily look you up. The list is public information. Do you want to get sabotoged by someone who you had a fight with on the board later on in the process? You never know who you are dealing with. The chances of anything happening is remote, but if you p*ss off the wrong guy, he knows your name. I'd rather err on the side of caution. I'd even post the link to the list, but I'll let everyone find it for themselves. It's not hard. That's my take on keeping lists numbers somewhat hidden.

Also, what IF (big what if) a psych doc does a litle Columbo on you and finds you posting stuff that may be questionable from a psychological point of view. Do you want to fail the psych over it and probably get BLACK LISTED from any other LE job? I bet one of the questions the psych doc asked was if you ever failed a psych evaluation before. It's highly remote, but its possible.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks Gbotj....i hope it all works out for me...and for all the other hopefuls...

JohnieBK...i totally understand what you're saying about the whole list number and people finding out who you are...but what i meant was you shouldnt have to worry about what possible HR people would see if you keep it clean and honest...theres no reason for people on these forums to be fighting anyway...it should be all for useful tips and help for all of us, ya know...i mean i know ive seen plenty of people in screaming matches on here, and in that case i totally agree with you...good luck with the nypd!! did you complete all of the testing and processing with them?

[JohnieBK]

Hey LE, I got the call a little while ago to start the NYPD. The first day is Monday coming up! Although I dropped out of this round with the BTO gig, I will reinstate my name on the BTO list, just incase I feel the need the quit and find myself looking for something else! Thanks for asking, good luck to you.

[rtmcqueen]

Hey LE, I got the call a little while ago to start the NYPD. The first day is Monday coming up! Although I dropped out of this round with the BTO gig, I will reinstate my name on the BTO list, just incase I feel the need the quit and find myself looking for something else! Thanks for asking, good luck to you.

Good luck my brother in blue, 6 months and you will feel and see the dream come true. the day i put on all blue was the best. :D

[LEIsMyLife21]

Congratulations JohnieBK!!! Good Luck with everything!! and keep us informed on how things are going for you in the academy!! Hopefully my dreams will be coming true soon as well!!

[LEIsMyLife21]

so i just got a phone call saying that i have to get refingerprinter on the 22nd because my original prints werent taken right...this kinda sucks...has anyone else had to go through this? i wonder if this is going to stop me from possibly getting into the first class....

[gbotj]

I dont want to post forum names because it may give away who he is, but yes one other person had to get re fingerprinted and he's still in the process and doing fine.

the only thing for you is that you will not make the jan. class.
When they take fingerprints they have to send them to albany for analysis etc. and it usually takes about a month.

[Miro1118]

Oral psych done today. Now I/we sit and wait. Good luck to all. And keep us posted at the first hint of any news.

[DOAcop38]

DOA- to clarify further... the legal difference is that Police Officers have more training and powers with 'stop and frisk' and 'search warrants'- hence, thier academy is longer. Police Officer academies spend more time on Terry V. Ohio and Belton V. NY type cases in their training... anyway, you get the point....

As far as carrying firearms in NYS go, everything is pretty much the same between the two. I believe TBTA is covered under HR 218 (as is NYCDOC), whether the management likes to admit it or not. NYS Courts, Sheriffs (also Peace Officers) and NYS DOCS are also covered under HR 218 for carrying firearms off duty. TBTA training is done on Randalls Island- in a different building from NYPD. Firearms training is done at Rodmans Neck- the same place as NYPD.

NYS has very convoluted statutes... I won't even attempt to make sence of it all. Start with NYS CPL 2.10 if you want to look into Police Officer vs. Peace Officer powers any further.


Thanks for the FYI all[ funny but in CA.(westcoastie here) we ALL have to go to a BASIC police academy,whether you are a district PD officer,sheriffs deputy,Court Marshal ( now a defunct job title),Dist Atty investigator,Municipal Police officer-we are ALL considered peace officers-the only only difference in status is what you "primary" jurisdiction is ( i.e. School police or college police officers are expected to focus primarily on their campus duties and secondarily on street or highway traffic).The only people with less training tend to be probation officers,or correctional officers-but not that much less-the avg training in CA now tends to be between 6-8 mos of academy training,and you can gather anywhere from 30 to 50 college credits in CJ.........

[LEIsMyLife21]

has anyone heard anything else about a positive start date for the academy? and if we dont make the first class for some reason when the second class should be going in?

[Miro1118]

LE, A summary of what we know (All, please correct me if I am wrong)

1) Hal Greenberg said that the academy would start between Jan 1 and Jan 31
2) Oral Psychs are scheduled through tomorrow. They must need a few days to compile the info
3) It was said that they are not sure exactly how many candidates will be in the first class, but it is around 28. There is also a possibility that there will be an AM and a PM class.
4) The academy is 3 mos. They said that they may have a second class before the 3 Months is up.
5) There were about 100 of us at the written Psych. The guy who administered said that they usually eliminate %15 so that will leave us with 85.
6) Not sure how many got DQed on the medical

I would think we will hear something in about a week or two. I think you get a letter if you are out, and a phone call if you are in. I hope it is positive news for all. Keep an eye on the mail and an ear to the phone.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks, Miro...ill try to stay positive and hopeful!! Good Luck everyone!!!

[gbotj]

LE I'm very sorry, but I gave you wrong information.

it only takes a few days for the fingerprints to go through and be cleared. Sorry if I caused any added stress (or took a few years off your life lol).

[LEIsMyLife21]

hahaha...thanks so much Gbotj....guess those gray hairs i got after i read your post were uneccessary...i feel much much better now!! ill continue to stay as hopeful as possible!!

[gbotj]

yeah I actually felt really crappy after I told you that and found out I was wrong. I know if it were me I'd have a bad day after hearing that.

[LEIsMyLife21]

yes that definitely put a cloud over my head after hearing that...but its better now...how did you get the correct info anyway?

[gbotj]

I spoke to the person who had to get re fingerprinted, and he told me how it went and what they had to do and how long it takes.

[LEIsMyLife21]

ohh ok...they told me that a lot of people got rejected on the fingerprints and had to be refingerprinted...i wonder if that will change the start date of the academy...and ive spoken to a couple people dating back to the physical part that said they had to be refingerprinted...i just want to get it all over and done with!

[gbotj]

yeah, you and everyone else. lol.

[Miro1118]

So thats why you were asking when the next class was, LE. Hopefully all of us on this forum in this group make the top 56.

[LEIsMyLife21]

yep miro thats why i asked about the next class...i hope we all make the 56 too!!! hopefully these next couple of weeks go by fast!

[gbotj]

these next couple weeks will be the slowest of your life. This is when the real waiting begins. theres no other steps (the re-fingerprinting is just a formality).

However each day is one day closer. But dont wish your life away.

I wish you all the best of luck with the academy.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks gbotj....anyone who hears anything new...keep us posted!!

Good Luck!!

[tbtasgt]

hello all. let me insert my 2 cents on some of the topics. first i have 34 years of law enforcement experience. 8 with tbta 5 as a sgt. i was a correction officer, a senior nys court officer, campus peace officer, nyc housing police officer, and i was a transit conductor. The 1 in 3 rule can be applied to any civil service list, city or state. tbta officers are civis service as are all nyc transit workers, nys court officers operate under nyc rr art 22 rules of the chief judge. they are neither state or city civil service. Mta police lirr and metro north conductors are not civil service and can be hired or fired as the employer see's fit. Tbta officers can carry the glock 19 on or off duty and the 26 off duty. those who were employed before the semi auto's were implemented can also carry a 38 revolver colt or smith and wesson 2 or 4inch.
the training is about 4 months. with extra training during the course of employment. The acadamy is at randalls island firearms is conducted at our own range in queens at the qmt vent building. i would never be a co again but i had found that women were treated better than males in my agency. i am sure things have changed by now as that was a long time ago.
SOD has a highway unit, they also staff the command center and do commercial vehicle enforcement, and are currently creating a truck enforcement detail. tbta is still the legal name even though mta is pushing the mtabt name, they were unable to legally change it. tbta was formed by merging city agencies. (authorities) the nyc bridge authority the nyc tunnel authority the nyc parkway authority the henry hudson parkway authority and the marine parkway authority. hope this helps, i have to sign off right now but i will be back as i re read the errors. please research before you post, i found it upsetting to see all the incorrect info here.

[SCPS PO]

TBTA Sgt,

Thanks for the reply and clarification boss. I have a few more for you. How much time in rank is necessary to take the promotional exam to Sgt? From my understanding, any BTO who has at least completed the prescribed training at Randalls is eligible. Second, the off duty 26, is it issued or purchased by the individual officer?

[rtmcqueen]

hello all. let me insert my 2 cents on some of the topics. first i have 34 years of law enforcement experience. 8 with tbta 5 as a sgt. i was a correction officer, a senior nys court officer, campus peace officer, nyc housing police officer, and i was a transit conductor. The 1 in 3 rule can be applied to any civil service list, city or state. tbta officers are civis service as are all nyc transit workers, nys court officers operate under nyc rr art 22 rules of the chief judge. they are neither state or city civil service. Mta police lirr and metro north conductors are not civil service and can be hired or fired as the employer see's fit. Tbta officers can carry the glock 19 on or off duty and the 26 off duty. those who were employed before the semi auto's were implemented can also carry a 38 revolver colt or smith and wesson 2 or 4inch.
the training is about 4 months. with extra training during the course of employment. The acadamy is at randalls island firearms is conducted at our own range in queens at the qmt vent building. i would never be a co again but i had found that women were treated better than males in my agency. i am sure things have changed by now as that was a long time ago.
SOD has a highway unit, they also staff the command center and do commercial vehicle enforcement, and are currently creating a truck enforcement detail. tbta is still the legal name even though mta is pushing the mtabt name, they were unable to legally change it. tbta was formed by merging city agencies. (authorities) the nyc bridge authority the nyc tunnel authority the nyc parkway authority the henry hudson parkway authority and the marine parkway authority. hope this helps, i have to sign off right now but i will be back as i re read the errors. please research before you post, i found it upsetting to see all the incorrect info here.

thank you:) i've told them so many times and now they know, 1 of 3 aka CNS choosen not selected is real. if they tell you that your file(background check etc.) is under review you will be CNS.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I received a letter from MTAB&T asking me if I'm interested in becoming a Temporary Bridge and Tunnel Officer. I asked two of my BTO firends and they both told me don't take it. Do you think that I should follow what they tell me?

[vab1978]

I received a letter from MTAB&T asking me if I'm interested in becoming a Temporary Bridge and Tunnel Officer. I asked two of my BTO firends and they both told me don't take it. Do you think that I should follow what they tell me?


I also received a letter about the temporary BTO position. Why is the TBTA still soliciting temporary positions when they have a full list of eligible candidates who took the civil service exam and are waiting for appointment? Is there less training and therefore the temps can start quicker? It is definitely cheaper for the TBTA to hire temps. What is up with this?

[Viper2007]

They are probably doing this for the BTO candidates that they expect to call within the next year or two. Look at it as a foot in the door. It also looks good on the application for when you go to interview with them for the fulltime BTO job. This is probably their way of keeping future candidates intersted... after a few years of waiting, some people move on and take other jobs before TBTA gets to their #.

Go for it... it can't hurt.

[gbotj]

I think I'm going to call HR tomorrow and find out when they are going to send out packets again. From my understanding this first class should be going in around jan. 21 (told by a sgt. in SOD) I also heard the second class will go in before the first class is out (about 1-2 months in) which puts the third class in around april or may. I found out that TBTA often runs split classes throuought the year and that since a group hasnt been hired in 7 months they need to put alot of guys through at once which is why they did processing for 2 groups at the same time so one group can go in right after another. If they are going to do this then they will have to start sending out packets in the next 2 weeks for the orientation to be in the first week of feb. then 2 months of processing puts it into april which is when the third class would start.

So I dont want my packet to get lost in the mail again so I will call up and find out a ballpark of when they should be sending them out so I know if I dont get anything I can tell them before orientation.

if anyone else wants to call too go ahead, you may get someone with more information.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Hey GBotj...whatever you find out, keep us posted...id like to know what their expectations are for the academy start dates...

[Cadet2020]

is it me...or have these last few days just dragged...hehe

[LEIsMyLife21]

last few days?? i thought i was stuck in one neverending day....hahaha

[mat07]

i have been looking at my phone every few minutes just to make sure its working and i dont miss any calls. well if its supposedly jan. 21 anybody know when they will call to notify people? are they like pd where they will call you the night before.

p.s. - i also found this useful site:

http://tbtarant.com/index.php?sid=f6c2c4afa2d7bd5b0a6307fb8f7a4904

some pretty good info on there

[LP13]

I've been waiting for this phone to ring for the past week now since I had my oral exam..... I'm doing the same thing Mat, I keep checking and making sure it's working properly!

[vab1978]

Great site Mat, thanks.

Gobtj - I am also hoping to be in that third class so please keep posting. I've got to give my current job a lot of notice when resigning so the more info the better.

[gbotj]

yeah, I didnt have a chance to call yesterday so I'm going to do it on monday. vab, if you go back a couple pages the phone number is there so if you want you can call too.

[Jayc6018]

Yeah I got the letter from TBTA soliciting me for the temporary officers position, I am thinking about taking it as well I mean at least I can do the evening and overnight shift along with my other job. I would be good money for this one yr to save up.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Heres the list friends,


http://www.thechief-leader.com/news/2007/1130/Exam/033.html

I looked at it and it kinda put things in perspective as to how many people are actually waiting to be called for a job .

Hope it helps and somewhat gives an idea of when youre going to be called.

[Viper2007]

It looks like the psych's are all done. I guess they are just finishing up everybodies background checks and making sure everyones paper work is in order.

All we can do now is wait. Good luck to everybody waiting on a call!!

[gw35]

Hello,

Im new here so I just wanted to wish everyone who is waiting to be called good luck and hope most can make it in the first class. My list number is between 80 and 90 so Im keeping my fingers cross.

Good luck!!!

[bhavin115]

so what was the offical last number called so far??

[Viper2007]

bhavin, nobody was called off the new list. They are starting from the top.

Does anybody have any updates about what day the training is starting??

[RomanArts]

From what i hear the training starts first week of Feb and its going to be a double class meaning 56 candidates. Now dont quote me on this, its just somethign i heard. Good luck!

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks RomanArts...I hope you're right!

[bhavin115]

o thanks LE... i still didnt get my score from dcas in the mail is there anything i should do cause i dont want that to affect tbta not calling me or me not getting my packet when its time.

[Miro1118]

o thanks LE... i still didnt get my score from dcas in the mail is there anything i should do cause i dont want that to affect tbta not calling me or me not getting my packet when its time.

Somebody posted a link to the list above. Look for your name on there. If it is higher than about 270 then you should call the human resources # that is mentioned above. You should have at least recieved a computer generated result card with your score and list #.

Hope that helps

[LEIsMyLife21]

yeah you should definitely contact human resources bhavin...everyone should have gotten their results and list number by now

[tnelly711]

gbotj when i last spoke to the lady at hr,about a week and a half ago, she told me it might be a couple of months before we get packets...im guessing thats the end of feb...but if u get anything post it an ill do the same...dont want to that same thing to happen again..lol

[gbotj]

yeah, I'm sorry. I tried calling today and got a few busy signals. If I hear anything you'll be the first to know. Im going to try again tomorrow.

[Viper2007]

This wait can't go any slower..... the days are just dragging by!!!!!!

[bhavin115]

so should i call DCAS or TBTA human resource for my score in the mail???

[LEIsMyLife21]

i would call...you should have gotten at least your score by now

[gw35]

so should i call DCAS or TBTA human resource for my score in the mail???

bhavin,

I would eventually call both, but first it would be DCAS.

[bhavin115]

thankz guys for all the help.. i will start with dcas.. thanks agian

[Viper2007]

bhavin... You are on the list. DCAS is one big mess. You will get a packet from TBTA wen your # comes up. You are fine as long as your name is on the list that was posted a few days ago.

[bhavin115]

thankz viper i just wanted to be on the safe side since i read everyone got their score in the mail and i didnt get anything. iam just hoping TBTA dont 4get me lol ;)

[gw35]

Quick question or questions (pretty long - sorry):

1) At this point in time, is it safe to say that everyone that has made it to the psych interview has passed everything prior to the interview and being called now depends on that psych interview? The only part of the process where you definitely know immediately whether you pass or fail was the physical training done at Randall's Island.

2) How accurate is this 1 in 3 rule? I've spoken to 2 buddies of mine, one still NYPD and the other a former NYPD currently now Suffolk, and both stated they never heard of the 1 in 3 rule. The one still NYPD asked a superior and the superior did hear about it but stated that its not applied because there would be major lawsuits if someone with with a high score/list number, who has passed everything, is declined and someone with a low score/list number who also passed everything is accepted.

3) Does HR send out a letter of acceptance and then call or do they call first and then send a confirmation letter based on your acceptance/declination when called? I've heard that they call first but then I've also heard that the letter is first. Which is it?

4) When I did the pysch interview, the pysch was able to tell me that, based on what he has heard, the class is starting either the last week of January but definitely by the first week of February. Aside from Romanarts, has anyone else heard the first week of February too?

5) And is it definitely a class of 56 as Romanarts previously stated? Not accurately counting everyone at the pysch test, but IMO there was easily 100 or a bit over 100 people there. It wasnt packed as during the orientation in November but it wasnt spacious either where you can say that there were about 70 or 80 people. Of course, because of the amount in the room and the number being thrown around regarding the class, it leads me to think back to the 1 in 3 rule. I will also add that Greenberg, during orientation in November did say that, historically, the invited amount of potential candidates is the number needed for a class. Its hard to fathom, at least for me, that out of all the people at the psych test that half will fail and you now have a class of 50 or so. Again, this leads me back to the 1 in 3 rule.

Again, sorry for the long post.....

[gbotj]

A friend of mine is a Sgt. in SOD and he told me the class should go in in January, this info is about 2 weeks off since he's been on nights though. He also told me that it will be a dual academy with both classes either having the same start date or a little bit later within the month.

[Viper2007]

gw35, I wouldnt worry about it. Say 80 people took the psych... figure 70 passed. TBTA just lost a few applicants to NYPD (one was actually on this forum). People will also turn the job down. Also, some peoples cases will be delayed for further review of background issues. They should have somewheres around 60 candidates to fill the spots. To do a full blown 1 and 3, they would need 150 candidates... they don't have that many. This leads me to think that appointments will be done in list # order. Can they do the 1 and 3? Sure, they can do what they want. Will they? Not likely.

Just my opinion. Good luck.

[gbotj]

when you guys got your packets, did it come certified mail?

[gw35]

when you guys got your packets, did it come certified mail?

I believe it was regular mail. I still have the envelop with all pertinent info that was given along the way in it.

Ill check tonight but I strongly believe it was sent regular mail.

[gbotj]

ok thanks.

[mat07]

yeah i received my packet in the regular mail. i'm hoping that the class is a double class since my list # is in the late 60's but who knows what could happen. Hopefully at least one of us will get a phone call sometime soon...

[gw35]

Hey mat07,

Not trying to sound like an expert, far from it. But from what has been said, what I have been told and what I understand from reading this thread is that whoever was invited to the orientation back on 11/27 will be chosen for the first class. Of course this only happens if you pass everything.

Maybe someone else with more knowledge can chime in, but this is how I understand it to be.

I'm in the low 80's by the way.

[Ant61683]

I know i have a WHILE to go being im low 1,200's but just be patient .. It will come , when it does you'll be happy ... Just keep yourself in check and stay out of trouble ...

[gw35]

ok thanks.

Checked the envelop last night. Aside from a strip of paper attached on the bottom right of the envelop that has a scan bar, everything looks like regular mail to me. The postage stamp is the white one, price at $1.99 and dated 11/02/07.

[gbotj]

thanks for the response gw. I wanted to know because a certified card came addressed to me and I didnt know if it was the packet or not.

Thanks again.

[Stackit02]

Do any recent members who went into the academy remember how much notice they give you? I figured from their time line given that we would have heard something by now.

[Viper2007]

Stackit, they psychs were finished up last wednesday. I guess they are just finishing up background checks and doing final paperwork.

I guess getting funding to hire 56 BTO's is also part of the puzzle. $37k x 56 BTO's = $2,072,000... I'm sure the people at TBTA are going to have to justify why they need that much $ to hire new officers. I guess there is a lot of behind the scene politics and logistics that we don't see. Hopefully we will all get called within the next week or 2.

[Stackit02]

Yea, good point. I am just so anxious! The suspense of coming home after work to check the mail and phone messages is killing me when nothing is there! Ha Ha

[SCPS PO]

Anyone advise on when TBTA will be reaching out to the 300 series list numbers of exam 6091?

[gbotj]

SCPS in a few weeks, around mid Feb they should begin processing again.

Depending on where you are they should get to you, they called 280 people for 56 positions. 140 showed up. This next group will be for only 28 positions. So about 110 will be called for processing. Leftovers from the last group, and people who have been reactivated will lower that number to about 80 or 90 called.

[Jayc6018]

SCPS in a few weeks, around mid Feb they should begin processing again.

Depending on where you are they should get to you, they called 280 people for 56 positions. 140 showed up. This next group will be for only 28 positions. So about 110 will be called for processing. Leftovers from the last group, and people who have been reactivated will lower that number to about 80 or 90 called.

Hey bro I got a question for you, I just got a letter from TBTA soliciting me for the temporary BTO position which is only for a yr. Do you think I should take it? I guess if I do it would look good for me once they call my number. What ya think?

[gbotj]

I believe TBTA sent out the letters for Temp BTO to guys with a 1 or more year wait to be called. It all depends on what you want to do. All the temps do are collect tolls, it may look good to them that you took the position, but alot of people cannot committ to a temporary position based solely on the fact that they may like it at the interview. After all it is only temporary and no on knows for sure if they will even get hired, to leave your job now for a temp position may not be worth it. If you think you can do it, then go for it. Just know what your getting into.

If they sent it to me, and I know I had more than a 1 year wait (who knows how long you have to wait though) and the position is only for 1 year that means I would have to get another job after the temping is over before I even get called. I wouldnt do it. If I had about 9-12 months wait, then I'd take the temp job.

[Viper2007]

Another week of waiting beings tomorrow.... Hopefully we all hear something this week......

[SCPS PO]

I received a letter soliciting me for a temp position as well. My list number is in the 300's. I think it's more of a random canvass letter.

[Viper2007]

SCPS, I would take it. Do the job for a year and by that time they should be calling you for BTO processing. The experience looks good on the application. Good Luck.

[gw35]

Another week of waiting beings tomorrow.... Hopefully we all hear something this week......

Thats the part that is killing me; the wait. Thanks God my Giants won tonight. :D

Anyway, Viper, or anyone for that matter, will they be calling to offer the job or will they send a letter. I've heard both, them calling to you to offer a job and them sending you a letter. Which is it?

Thanks,

[Viper2007]

gw, I know that they call and offer us the job. As far a letter goes, I'm not sure...

[SCPS PO]

Viper,

I'm currently employed. If they invited 225 for the first the class, with a list number in the 300's I anticipate I should be called for the next round of orientation.

[bhavin115]

the temp letter wont hurt or help your chance.. my former co-worker turned down the temp letter from the last list and now is working as a bto at qmt as a full status officer... it comes down to if you can afford to work for temp 1 year cause they do mean temp on day 364 they say thank you for ur help

[LEIsMyLife21]

and ive also heard of people who took the temp job and still got dq-ed during the processing

[gw35]

gw, I know that they call and offer us the job. As far a letter goes, I'm not sure...

Thanks Viper. Well, if we're to hear anything this week it won't be today since its a Holiday. :(

[LEIsMyLife21]

well i have to go tomorrow to get re-fingerprinted...and hopefully that will be the end of processing and waiting wont be for much longer!! *fingers crossed*

[turtle]

Has anyone actually spoke to anyone in HR about when people will be called? What about if you failed a portion of the psyc or medical? How do you find out your status?- thanks

[Viper2007]

turtle, you will be mailed a letter if you get DQ'ed during the process.

[turtle]

Thanks Viper......I assume that we would have received that letter already if that was the case.....So now we wait........

[LEIsMyLife21]

just got back from being refingerprinted..the lady told me that the results for them should be back by the end of the day...

and the waiting continues!!

[gbotj]

maybe TBTA was waiting for LE to get re-fingerprinted. Maybe there were others that had to be re-fingerprinted and calls will go out tomorrow for you guys. Good luck.

[Viper2007]

Good stuff LE!!! Let's all keep our fingers crossed. Hopefully everyone here gets the call!

We are really down to the wire now.........

[LEIsMyLife21]

*keeping fingers crossed for me and everyone else on here that i know really wants this*

Good Luck everyone...as soon as anyone gets the call...let us know!!

[Viper2007]

LE, they must have scanned you into the computer then. Thats a pretty fast turn around time.

[LEIsMyLife21]

Viper, they actually did normal fingerprints as they did on the day of orientation, and then they scanned them into a computer...guess they dont want to take any chances with anything getting messed up again, lol...in the mean time i guess ill just continue to wait...as if i had any other choice, haha...

[gw35]

Viper, they actually did normal fingerprints as they did on the day of orientation, and then they scanned them into a computer...guess they dont want to take any chances with anything getting messed up again, lol...in the mean time i guess ill just continue to wait...as if i had any other choice, haha...

LE,

Thats the same thing they did with me back on the 12/27. I got called the day before we had the PT and interview on the 12/18 to let me know I had to get my prints redone. On the 27th, did the computer first and then the ink print.

[LEIsMyLife21]

GW,
From what they told me, a lot of candidates had to get them redone..maybe thats the delay in the calls and the academy start date..im hoping anyway :)

[Marlboro]

Can someone tell me what to expect at the physical exam for the BTO ????

That is something that i been trying to find out.
Thanks

[gbotj]

go back a few pages marlboro, its been covered alot.

[Viper2007]

Marlboro... heres what happens that day... There are three events that make up the physical exam. You will need to run .65 miles. Next, you will need to do the trigger pull test. And no, the gun is not loaded.. it does not even have a firing pin in it. The third part is running up and down 2 flights of stairs. It's not hard at all. When you get your packet in the mail, it will give you all of the details about the physical.

After the physical, you will go and have your interview with the HR people. If you are in good shape, you will be fine.

[Miro1118]

Could be any day now. Feels like its taking forever. Good luck to all. I know everyone here really wants this.

[LEIsMyLife21]

The days just seem to be getting longer and longer!

I was wondering though if anyone knew this, during the academy...is it a monday-friday class??

[Viper2007]

LE.. I believe that the academy is a Monday-Friday work week. There could be some Saturdays involved though. A friend of mine that went to the NYPD academy had to go in on a few Saturdays... I'm not sure if TBTA does the same.

I know that TBTA spends a few days at the gun range and at the FDNY academy. Do they do EVOC or any drivers training? I don't recall hearing anything about that.

[KayWhy]

academy is strickly mon-fri, you spend one week at fdny academy, one week at the gun range in yonkers, no evoc thats only for our highway unit (cru/sod) also if ur lucky u might get a holiday off...just maybe it all depends on how the instructors feel

[KayWhy]

any other questions feel free to ask, ive been through it and know how you all feel, good luck to you all, the more they hire the more i move up, just remember there gonna promote a few bto's to sgt., and cru is taking 20 bto's in thats more spaces for you guys, i heard the first class is going in on the 4th
which is a monday but they could put you guys in on that first wed. because the first 3 days are at 2 broadway for another orientation

[KayWhy]

SCPS, I would take it. Do the job for a year and by that time they should be calling you for BTO processing. The experience looks good on the application. Good Luck.


it doesnt really help being a temp but it can hurt your chances the one good thing about it is when i was doing my interview almost every question could be answered based on my experience being a temp, (the interview is only questions about skills, and knowledge you might have obtained in other jobs or life experiences that relate to this job)

[KayWhy]

Stackit, they psychs were finished up last wednesday. I guess they are just finishing up background checks and doing final paperwork.

I guess getting funding to hire 56 BTO's is also part of the puzzle. $37k x 56 BTO's = $2,072,000... I'm sure the people at TBTA are going to have to justify why they need that much $ to hire new officers. I guess there is a lot of behind the scene politics and logistics that we don't see. Hopefully we will all get called within the next week or 2.

the money is no issue they have a set amount of spots when bto's, retire, quit, get fired (which does happen,) get promoted or move to sod these spots open up and need to be filled, not to mention they are increasing the toll in march which makes cents...lol just be happy by the time you guys get out of academy you wont have to carry quarters...a little hint when you start academy, you'll be wearing long sleeve shirts so the tie is a must, (you go from begining to end in full uniform) no jewlery and no crew neck t-shirts, if you wanna wear an undershirt, wear a v-neck or a-shirt, besides test scores the only other thing they look at is uniform attire....let the sgts see a white t-shirts sticking out of your uniform or a necklace and they'll rip u a new one. i know it happened to me on the second day

[mat07]

any other questions feel free to ask, ive been through it and know how you all feel, good luck to you all, the more they hire the more i move up, just remember there gonna promote a few bto's to sgt., and cru is taking 20 bto's in thats more spaces for you guys, i heard the first class is going in on the 4th
which is a monday but they could put you guys in on that first wed. because the first 3 days are at 2 broadway for another orientation


if all this is accurate then you've made me feel a lot better. i've been waiting for someone on the job to post some info about the academy/beginning process. thanks a lot.

[SCPS PO]

KayWhy,

If you scroll up to page 22, post 508, I had a few questions. Could you clarify them for me?

[gbotj]

thank god for KY. Alot of questions answered for all.

[Miro1118]

Wow! February 4th. That means if they call by Monday its only a weeks notice at my current job. Not complaining, just thought we would get more notice.

[gw35]

If the Feb. 4th date is accurate, then is it safe to say that if we haven't received a letter by now then we're good to go and just waiting for the call to start the academy?

[LEIsMyLife21]

i sure hope so GW

[Miro1118]

If the Feb. 4th date is accurate, then is it safe to say that if we haven't received a letter by now then we're good to go and just waiting for the call to start the academy?


Not Sure, I have not heard of any rejection notices going out. They may be holding them and doing it all at once. That way they can handle the appeals after they get the academy kicked off. I don't know how it works. I dont think anyone has been given any status since they passed or failed the Physical.

[gw35]

Not Sure, I have not heard of any rejection notices going out. They may be holding them and doing it all at once. That way they can handle the appeals after they get the academy kicked off. I don't know how it works. I dont think anyone has been given any status since they passed or failed the Physical.

Not the type of response I was looking for but thanks Miro. :cool:

The wait and uncertainty continues. :(

[Miro1118]

Sorry about that. I did not mean to sound pessimistic. We should be hearing something really soon.

I suspect that GW, Mat, Cadet, and Viper will be posting news first as you are higher on the list. Please keep us all posted.

Besides it will be fun figuring out who we all are when we are in the Academy

[gw35]

Sorry about that. I did not mean to sound pessimistic. We should be hearing something really soon.

I hope its good news for all of us.

I suspect that GW, Mat, Cadet, and Viper will be posting news first as you are higher on the list. Please keep us all posted.

Will do.

Besides it will be fun figuring out who we all are when we are in the Academy

That would be great. And, again, I hope all here do make it so that we can put the screen-name to the face.

[LP13]

Yea luckily none of us have reported receiving any reject/disqualification notices yet, which is great, because I hope nobody here gets dq'd, however just because none of us received anything, doesn't necessarily mean people who are not on this forum didn't receive anything..

I think if we all knew, lets say for example, that people who were not on this forum received any dq's, we'd all be a little less on our toes and would be able to sleep better at night knowing we're okay and that we're just waiting for that phone call.. :)

But thanks for the great info KayWhy - I'll be sure to stock up on v-neck undershirts! haha

[gw35]

Yea luckily none of us have reported receiving any reject/disqualification notices yet, which is great, because I hope nobody here gets dq'd, however just because none of us received anything, doesn't necessarily mean people who are not on this forum didn't receive anything..

I think if we all knew, lets say for example, that people who were not on this forum received any dq's, we'd all be a little less on our toes and would be able to sleep better at night knowing we're okay and that we're just waiting for that phone call.. :)

But thanks for the great info KayWhy - I'll be sure to stock up on v-neck undershirts! haha

Very true LP. And although I thought the same thing, its comforting hearing someone else say it, or in this case write it.

Just so you everyone know, another member here informed me that he/she read that a class may start on the 14th. It was posted on the TBTA rant site. Actually there were several dates mentioned. The 4th was one, the 12th and the 14th. Although it extends the agonying of waiting, I thought I share this with you. So we wait.

[LEIsMyLife21]

it should be a requirement for all candidates to join this forum so we know whats going on with everyone, lol...I sure hope we all make it!!

[Miro1118]

Chances of Today being the notification day are getting slim. Keep fingers crossed for Monday. That could be a logical day. The indications were always that we should know something by the end of January. Thats Thursday.

Good Luck all!

[KayWhy]

they dont give much notice when the class starts but believe me it has to be soon because like i said there are promo's to sgt and s.o.d., they need bodies, not to mention facilities like tbx are undermaned., and all this talk about disqualification, let me tell you if you failed the physical you would not get an appointment for the phsyc, and they say that the physc interview should only take 5-15 min. if you were there for an hour you probably failed,
after that you'll get a letter from the head of dcas' investigation dept stating you have been deemed qualified for the job as probationary bto, that means you have been qualified for everything, then you should receive a phone call from hr asking if you are still interested, then you will recieve a doc pack in the mail a few days later, then a few days after that you will be starting your first day of academy

[KayWhy]

can't find a full fledged website for the TBTA officers unit/Dept (???) maybe one of you "future" officers or a current one can create a website that has specific details, contact info and PR photos for the general public


btoba.org is our union page, tbtarant.com is for the unhappy bto's to complain,

[KayWhy]

Hi All,

I have a few questions and I was hoping someone who is already otj with TBTA can answer.

From my understanding of your chart, you never work more than 4 days straight unless you opt for OT or get drafted. Could someone enlighten me on how your chart works? Is there a steady chart? I further understand you bid on your facility and tour upon completion of training. How difficult is it to get the specific tour you want?

I didn't see the length of sick or vacation days from DCAS NOE. Can anyone advise? I'm assuming all officers work straight 8's? Any chance for chart days? Is OT taken in time or straight cash?

In regards to off duty firearms, do you carry your service glock or can you opt for the 26 or is there a specific list of authorized firearms?

Any and all answers would be greatly appreciated.




when you start you will probably have a ten line schedule which is ten weeks of schedule when you get to the end you just start from line 1 again which is good because you kinda know exactly what days you will have off in the future, (every line/week has different days off), you will only work 4 days in a row then have 1-2 days off sometime you get an extra day off every so often in your schedule, the one exception to this is when you get alot of seniority you can bid for a steady tour which is mon-fri sat/sun off, also they have vacation relief tours which means you cover bto's when the go on vacation, the cons are that you might work 7a-3p this week and midnights next week, the pros are if your covering a senior guy you will probably have an assignment you couldnt get like driving the rmp (cort) or at a security sector. you work straight 8's sgts have 12 hour tours, i think that the bto's wanted the union to fight for the same schedule as mtapd which is three 12 hour tours a week and the rest off , vacation is 3 weeks but might be prorated if you didnt work a whole year your first year, (i started in june so i only got two weeks) you feb. guys will probably get the whole 3, ) you get 7 epb/pb's which are personal days which come of your vacation time, (when you work ot you can opt for either cash or time to pay back to your vacation)
the facilites and tours change per facility so one tour might be easier to get at one facility and so at another, they more busier facilites with the most openings will be what you get ie tbm, tbx, and there might be a few at the bbt do to the amount of people there who passed the sgt's exam,

on the issue of the off duty firearm, for your first six months no carrying off duty firearms, then until your probation is over only your 19, then when you put in for a request to purchase you can carry the 26 too

[LEIsMyLife21]

Thanks for all the helpful info Kay...keep it coming!! its greatly appreciated!!

[KayWhy]

all in all dont listen to anyone that says this is not a good job, if you can take the ot and the weather you'll be fine the money you can make is as much as you want to work and you cant get that in any job, (no ot cap), and its as much le as you want (no quotas), and even though i hate taking tolls, the booth isnt bad when its 10 degrees outside, also there are so many different tasks that its hard to get board days are always different, i mean you always get that one day but for the most part its very interesting everyday, also they bto's are very sarcastic so i hope all of you guys have a good sense of humor, (you'll see)

[KayWhy]

Thanks for all the helpful info Kay...keep it coming!! its greatly appreciated!!

anything in specific i can help you with, i was in your shoes at one point and had no info and no where to get it and thats frustrating because this could change the rest of your life, i mean this is a career not a job

[LEIsMyLife21]

i'm just trying to stay calm waiting for some sort of answers as to when the academy starts, when the calls should be coming, or letters...everyone has heard different dates, its just nerve wrecking...but its great to hear insight from someone who already has the experience, and what to expect.

Also, you were right about tbtarant...its a very hostile website, lol...

[KayWhy]

what is your list number/score

[KayWhy]

my list number was in the low 1200's and it took me 4years in fact i was the last class form the last test, i think the highest list number was in the 1600's

[LEIsMyLife21]

im list num 265...scored a 94 i think?? cant remember! lol...yea i saw your past post when you got accepted and said they lost your papers or something..that must have been frustrating, but at least you got in!!

[KayWhy]

when it comes to facilities here it goes, the busier facilities has the most ot and collars, ie tbm, tbx, qmt, you guys can forget about the crossbay, rockaway and hudson bridges that only for senior guys who are fully qualified ie wrecker and desk, the bbt is good if you dont like ot, but trust me eventually everybody wants ot, the tbm is held to higher standards do to the fact that it is the flagship and all of the bosses come through that facility, but for the most part pick a facility thats easy to reach because lateness is not tollerated do to the fact that when your late another bto is forced to stay until you arrive which is not fare, the ultimate tip is when you get the job dont be late, dont be absent, and dont be short $ when you take tolls and you'll be alright, p.s dont get customer complaints either you are law enforcement but that doesnt mean you have to be nasty

[KayWhy]

im list num 265...scored a 94 i think?? cant remember! lol...yea i saw your past post when you got accepted and said they lost your papers or something..that must have been frustrating, but at least you got in!!

your list number is fine they say it takes 100-150 numbers to get one class of about 26 so the first class is a double one so you'll be alright thats a good number, and about my earlier post yeah i know i wanted to pull my hair out seeing that i took all civil service exams and wanted this more then any, i think if i didnt keep calling i would have lost my chance

[LEIsMyLife21]

what facility are you at kay?

[KayWhy]

all i wanted to do is le and would have moved to alaska to do it thankfully i didnt have to, tbta is good as long as it keeps moving forward to more le, ie police status, 20 and out,....which sometimes it looks like it and others it doesnt, some bossed dont care for the le aspect only the tolls, but they love it when we get a collar that makes the paper, like the truck full of conterfeit sneakers at triboro bridge bronx, i truly feel that in the future this job will go somewhat in the direction the papd took, they too took tolls at one time, we could have been apart of the mtapd but we would've had to give up civil service which secures your job, and they would have also been layoffs seeing that they would just put mtapd guys on our facilities, so sometimes its a double egded sword if we go police we lose and if we dont we lose

[KayWhy]

id rather not say but its one of the triboro's,

[LEIsMyLife21]

yeah ive wanted to be in LE all my life...

You say this class is a double, is that something you know for sure?

[KayWhy]

yes, also just remember that bto's are undershadowed by other agencies when we do something good that papers 80% of time say its mtapd, but we do impressive things, like we have a shooting team in the police olympics which do much better then most agencies, and our checkpoints are the envy of the nypd, thats why when i go to work i give 110% for the pride of the tbta, when i go on collars to pct;s and bookings, they always give us a look like we dont know what were doing but when we finish before the pd guy who started the paperwork at the same time, they say" your done already" thats right because yeah pd needs college but most of there rookies have no street smarts or common sense just whatever was taught in college.

[Miro1118]

Kay, what do you hear about the Verazzano? Is it hard to get? Whats it like?

[gw35]

I echo LE post..... Many thanks KayWhy for the info you are providing to us. Its greatly appreciated.

[KayWhy]

the vnb is a very busy bridge all day and night, my class there were only two openings, so it was hard to get but not impossible, if you live in s.i. then the bbt would be good for you, also you get alot of pd and corrections guys over there which sometimes is a problem do to there no repspect of the tbta

[Miro1118]

Thanks. For all your info.

A lot of the candidates I spoke to live in SI. I guess I should be concerned with getting on first.

I guess xfer at a later time is always a possibility at worst case.

[KayWhy]

yeah we do facility transfer bids evertime a class comes out or every may i think, so every year you get a chance to transfer

[LEIsMyLife21]

i live on long island..i would hope i could get something close enough!

[KayWhy]

long island so the whitestone would be good, so would the triboro's they meet the lie, and the cross island

[gbotj]

KY, thanks for all your posts. Great info, and your helping alot of people out. Thanks again for really explaining the job.

[LEIsMyLife21]

yea that was my guess too, i just hope its easy to get one of them

[KayWhy]

no problem im off today and figured why not give all the answers i was looking for when i was awaiting this job

[LEIsMyLife21]

oh another thing i wanted to ask..at the end of the academy, is there a formal graduation?

[KayWhy]

the triboro's you have no problem getting, and the whitestone i dont know my class took about 8 bto's there so they might be full like i said all depends on the promos

[KayWhy]

yes nothing big like nypd but its really nice and the instructors work hard to make it as nice as possible, there is also good food at the end, also they have the award ceromony for the academic achievement award for the best average of tests, and the top gun award for the overall best shot

[KayWhy]

the best facility for food is the triboros the have nicks food coach on randalls island near the fire academy where many of you will eat while in academy he has a good philly cheese steak there, and there is sal kris in astoria, which has the biggest freshest cold cut heros you ever seen

[KayWhy]

you might think its not important but when you get an hour to eat having choices near you is gold

[LEIsMyLife21]

is there a badge to carry off duty? or is it more like an id?

Sorry for all the questions...its just nice to have someone on the job around to answer stuff :)

[LEIsMyLife21]

yes places to eat is always great info, for me anyway! lol

[KayWhy]

lol your an officer of course you get a badge but in our world we call it a shield badges are for security guards, looks like nypd's but has the state seal in the center and says triboro bridge and tunnel officer instead of nyc police

[KayWhy]

i mean you are a peace officer which is only different from a police officer in two ways, one you cant stop and frisk, and two you cant arrest based on a warrant, if you happen to stop a person with a warrant we call nypd warrant squad to either pick them up or give us permission to transport to pd

[LEIsMyLife21]

good to know!! thanks!!

[KayWhy]

you carry off duty, you can arrest off duty , you were a uniform which mirrors nypd the only difference is we were state seals not city, if you really think about it were better off our standards and jurisdiction is the state of new york not the city....plus we get those really cool orange ez-passes, nypd dont

[KayWhy]

also our triggers on our firearms is 5.5 lbs of pressure like state troopers, i believe that pd is 8lbs.....doesnt really mean anything but just another way were in a better class

[gbotj]

KY, when your in the academy are you in Blues for the whole three months? when do you do firearms training? and when do you get your sheild? since your not able to carry off duty for the first 3 months after the academy, I'm guessing you carry at your graduation then transport your firearm to your assigned facility and lock it up? Whats field training like? its it a mixture of posts?

Thanks

[KayWhy]

is there a badge to carry off duty? or is it more like an id?

Sorry for all the questions...its just nice to have someone on the job around to answer stuff :)

i guess u never seen a bto on duty you would have seen his/her shield, thats ok

[LEIsMyLife21]

no what i meant was, like for instance, my cousin is a sheriff in dutchess county...and she wears a shield...but she also has another one that she carries in her wallet while off duty...

[KayWhy]

KY, when your in the academy are you in Blues for the whole three months? when do you do firearms training? and when do you get your sheild? since your not able to carry off duty for the first 3 months after the academy, I'm guessing you carry at your graduation then transport your firearm to your assigned facility and lock it up? Whats field training like? its it a mixture of posts?

Thanks

when your in academy you were grays kinda like nypd, firearms is towards the end like week 9 or 10 right after peace offivcer training, you get your shield at graduation, you dont carry at graduation, but you might transport it to your facility otherwise a firearms instructor will meet you at your facility with it and youll take it and lock it in your gun locker, you wont be really field trained until you start, and whatever you learn in academy doesnt mean anything until you actually do it on your own, after the first month or so in the actual field youll be good

[KayWhy]

no what i meant was, like for instance, my cousin is a sheriff in dutchess county...and she wears a shield...but she also has another one that she carries in her wallet while off duty...

she probably got a copy to carry in her wallet some le do that but it is really forbidden because if you lose one its a problem

[LEIsMyLife21]

which she actually did lose hers a couple of weeks ago, she actually lost her whole wallet..wasn't a good thing at all

[KayWhy]

midnight tours and pm tour are good becuse midnight is not as busy so you dont have to rush to learn, also night diff is 10% on top

[KayWhy]

and 10% when you start means a extra hundred and change a pay period

[KayWhy]

night diff is from 6pm-6am

[KayWhy]

also if you work a pm tour and do ot that ot is 10% on top which equals big bucks when you start thats an extra$4 an hour

[Viper2007]

KayWhy, thanks for all of the info!!!!! You answered like every question that I had about the Academy. Do we get the uniforms before the academy begins? Are we in suits for the first few days or do we report there in uniform?

Also, you said that DCAS sends a letter saying that you are deemed qualified for BTO upon completion of the background check. Has anybody gotten a letter like this? I have not gotten anything. DCAS is way too unorganized to complete our background checks in 6 weeks.. I am sure most of us will be on the job before we get the approval letter form DCAS. Haha. A private contractor does part of the check too. I remmeber filling out papers at oirentation for them.

I went back and read the old posts. It looks like they gave KayWhy and Roman 2 weeks notice to start. Hopefully we get calls next week! I can't wait for this job to start!!

[KayWhy]

with the letter pack you will recieve a letter stating to pick up you uniform at uniform by parks on 3rd ave, brooklyn, so for the first day of academy you will show up in uniform

[gbotj]

is there any Physical Training and Defensive Tactics in the academy? or is it mostly academics, firearms etc.?

[turtle]

KAY, first of all thanx for all the great info....whats the percentage of candidates who fail/drop out of the academy. Lets say 56 go in, how many do u think will graduate??