Tbta 2065

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Hey another step forward,



I got my final score and list number in the mail today , now if I only knew how to check up on list numbers online lol.

and my final score was an 88.235

[Ant61683]

Final score 87.058
list # 1245

[gbotj]

wow 1245 you guys will definately get on.

mine didnt come yet.

in oct 2006 they were down to 14xx. good luck to you guys

neuro what was your list number?

[Ant61683]

Is that a bad list # ??? How long do you think it will take for me to get on ??

[gbotj]

1245 is ok. It will be 2 years to get on, but its better late then never right?

You will definately get called, its just going to take a bit longer.

If I were you I'd start training now, build up your running endurance, strength, size, anything that will help you both for the academy and the job.

read a lot of books to improve on your reading comprehension, listen to what people have to say, or take notes on movies to improve on notetaking, read the NYS CPL and Penal Law, start familiarizing yourself with laws so you know before the academy.

Start doing this stuff now, so everything in the academy is a lot easier on you.

When I found out my proposed grade in june, I knew I'd be on within a year so I began weightlifting and running, in college I took a lot of classes and all criminal justice just to learn the penal law and CPL.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

My list number 926 , so is that good?

[gbotj]

926 is good. you shouldnt have to wait two years. I'll find out how long it took them last time to reach those list numbers for you guys.

[Ant61683]

That would be great gbotj !

[Jay-P]

If your list number is higher than about 1500 if that much, you`ll never be called for this job! My list is 2132. I`ll never be called! Tbta is full of **** that they don`t go that deep into the list! Scored an 85. Will never be called:mad:

[gbotj]

full of shyt???

TBTA doesnt need to hire everyone, I'm sorry to hear you wont be called but they hire based on the needs of the department.

TBTA only needs to hire 30 people for each class and about 4 classes on average per year.

is suffolk county police full of shyt too? they dont go below 90.
nassau is down to 84 on their last test, and are putting in another 2 classes off of it in 2008, they will get down to 82 or so.

theres other tests and other jobs, it doesnt pay to get worked up over not scoring as high as you hoped. it may work out for the better for you.
Good luck with your future endeavors.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

any ideas as to when you think they'll make it to my list number?

[bklynbob]

"But remember,you'll be peace officers,not cops"

great another hairbag.

It doesnt matter what your title is whether its police officer or peace officer you may or may not be a cop. There are certainly many police officers who are not cops and many peace officers who are cops.

A cop is what many believe to be a "constable on patrol" correct me if I'm wrong but TBTA patrols bridges and tunnels. Others believe "cop" was derived from the copper shields the NYPD first carried, if thats the case than NO one other than NYPD are cops!

Please.............you are not patrolling standing next to a e-z pass lane or in some booth,skippy.You can't tell me making change is police work. I'm not putting down the tbta............but please don't compare that job to what a cop does. If as a tbta officer,you think you are going out there writing summonse,and collaring people ,let me tell you something.The tbta wants you to be out there on post where you can bee seen.You start playing cop your fellow officers will have your locker wrapped in 30 rolls of duct tape.Keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut.

[gbotj]

do you know anything about TBTA...do you know any TBTA COPS.... You have no fvcking clue as to what TBTA does. You think because you heard other cops talk about them you know it all.

I've gone through the pages of this thread, and you post nothing but pure bullshyt. You have contributed nothing significant on this thread.

[gbotj]

This link directs you to a video where you BTO's were honored by the MTA board for heroic acts when they arrested a perp, and PD put out either an 85 or 13. The rest are just some articles on some of the work BTO's do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QNVwLt_G-w

Nikes were fake, but cops were real

BY MICHAEL WHITE
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU
Saturday, August 11th 2007, 4:00 AM
A little shoe-leather detective work on the Triborough Bridge led to the arrest of a trucker who was smuggling $250,000 worth of knockoff Nike sneakers, police said yesterday.
"There were Jordans in there, everything. All different kinds," said a police source.
MTA Bridge & Tunnel cops Jason Green and Mardakh Mardakhayev stopped the rig at the Bronx-bound toll plaza about 10 p.m. Thursday to check its weight.
But when the officers asked for documentation on the cargo, driver Khattar Bazi, 51, balked.
The driver, a Lebanese national from Michigan, then told the cops he thought he was carting clothing.
Police checked the trailer and found 195 unmarked cartons containing 3,475 pairs of counterfeit kicks, the sources said.
The bootleg sneakers, usually produced at factories in Asia, were in boxes with Nike markings.
A Nike senior investigator was summoned to the scene and immediately identified the cargo as bogus.
Bazi was charged with trademark counterfeiting in the third degree. He could not be reached for comment.
Investigators said the sneakers would have fetched $260,625, at an average of $75 a pair, on the street.
Nike's most expensive mass-produced sneaker, the Air Jordan XX2, retails for $175. Other Jordans range from $110 to $125.
mwhite@nydailynews.com
FROM THE NY POST:
Cops nabbed a driver carrying more than $250,000 worth of counterfeit Nike sneakers during a routine traffic check, authorities said yesterday.
Khattan Youssef Bazi, 51, of Dearborn, Mich., was charged with trademark counterfeiting after the 53-foot trailer he was driving was found containing 3,475 pairs of bogus Nikes.
Bazi was stopped on the Bronx-bound plaza of the Triborough Bridge at 10:30 p.m. Thursday by MTA Officers Mardakh Mardakhayev and Jason Green as part of a stricter enforcement of truck-weight restrictions



CRU OFFICER TONY BARBATO WAS INVOLVED IN IN A CAR CHASE AND SHOOTOUT AT TRIBOROUGH BRIDGE AT APPROXIMATELY 0330 HOURS THIS MORNING. TONY IS WELL, SAFE AND SOUND I AM PLEASED TO REPORT. ...More as it comes in...
From The NY POST- by TATIANA DELIGIANNAKIS, MURRAY WEISS and JAMIE SCHRAM
Queens : A Corona man was arrested after a high-speed chase that started at the Triborough Bridge and ended in Forest Hills early yesterday, authorities said.
MTA Bridges and Tunnels cop Anthony Barbato tried pulling over John Bohm, who sped over the bridge at 76 mph in a 40 mph zone, sources said.
Barbato followed Bohm, driving a red Lincoln Town Car, onto the Grand Central Parkway and then the Van Wyck Expressway.
Bohm eventually reached Union Turnpike, where he suddenly skidded to a stop, threw the car into reverse and tried ramming the cop, sources said.
Barbato fired two shots but missed.
He eventually caught the driver, who did not have a license and refused to submit to a Breathalyzer test.
The plates did not belong to the car, which had not been inspected or insured.
Bohm was charged with assault and reckless endangerment, along with numerous reckless-driving charges.



HERO COP IN CLOSE CALL ON WHITESTONE BRIDGE
By MURRAY WEISS, JANA WINTER and DAN MANGAN
FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Story Bottom"
February 20, 2007 -- A brazen thief stole an SUV from a Queens carwash yesterday and then nearly ran down a cop on the Whitestone Bridge - who bravely squeezed off three shots before diving out of the way, authorities said.
The crook remained at large last night after abandoning the swiped Range Rover just past the bridge in The Bronx.
Police sources said the incident began at about 11:30 a.m. at the Laurelton Car Wash on Merrick Boulevard in Queens, where a man was having his orange Range Rover cleaned. After the SUV was washed, the driver left the car to pay his bill, the sources said.
At that point, a man described as wearing a hooded sweatshirt and gray jeans jumped into the car and sped off.
People at the carwash called 911, prompting police to issue a bulletin for officers to be on the lookout for the vehicle, which had Georgia vanity tags.
About 35 minutes later, the Range Rover was spotted on the Whitestone by a Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority Police Office Chidir Hasanoeddin, who was at the toll plaza.
As the SUV waited to pass through the toll, Hasanoeddin shouted, "Police! Don't move! Get out of the car!" according to Greg Lombardi, vice president of the Bridge and Tunnel Officers Benevolent Association.
But instead of stopping, the driver gunned the engine, sending the SUV lurching over a two-foot curb toward the cop.
The officer fired three shots from his 9mm pistol at the Range Rover, the sources said. Another TBTA officer, Greg Verderber, saw what was happening and ran over before shooting once at the SUV.
The Range Rover then crashed through a toll gate and raced off, according to the sources. Neither officer was hurt.
The SUV was recovered about 20 minutes later by police at Brush and Lafayette avenues, near the first Bronx exit after the bridge. Both left tires were flat.
Cops flooded the area - a favored dumping ground for stolen cars - looking for the perp.
"It looks like a war zone," said José Ocasio, as he watched dozens of assault-rifle-toting officers surround the Brush Avenue house behind his after a police dog had tracked the scent of the thief there. Despite their search, the cops were unable to locate the thief.

[fedny]

What kind of training do TBTA Officers get?

[gbotj]

3 months in the academy, and 1 month field training.

they cover NYS CPL & Penal Law, TBTA Rules and Regulations, Firearms Training, First Aid, and alot more.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I can't wait to go =)

[Jayc6018]

I have not received my score yet but then again I haven't been home. Hopefully it came yesterday

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Jay how'd you do with the proposed key?

[Jayc6018]

Jay how'd you do with the proposed key?

Ok I just called my moms and she told me I got my letter, she said my score was 88.25 and my list number is 985. Ummm is that good? will it take them 4 yrs to call me? lol

[fedguy889]

Please.............you are not patrolling standing next to a e-z pass lane or in some booth,skippy.You can't tell me making change is police work. I'm not putting down the tbta............but please don't compare that job to what a cop does. If as a tbta officer,you think you are going out there writing summonse,and collaring people ,let me tell you something.The tbta wants you to be out there on post where you can bee seen.You start playing cop your fellow officers will have your locker wrapped in 30 rolls of duct tape.Keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut.

Wow that is one of the most pathetic responses I have read on here in a long time.

[Jayc6018]

Please.............you are not patrolling standing next to a e-z pass lane or in some booth,skippy.You can't tell me making change is police work. I'm not putting down the tbta............but please don't compare that job to what a cop does. If as a tbta officer,you think you are going out there writing summonse,and collaring people ,let me tell you something.The tbta wants you to be out there on post where you can bee seen.You start playing cop your fellow officers will have your locker wrapped in 30 rolls of duct tape.Keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut.

You are obviously mis-informed. I will just leave it at that but all those things you think TBTA officers can't do go and try to do it in front of them and see what happens.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Jay my list is 926 looks like we'll be in the same academy when we do get called lol

[Jayc6018]

Jay my list is 926 looks like we'll be in the same academy when we do get called lol

Do you know how long it will take them to get to us?

[gbotj]

I'd say it will take a couple years, I'm going to find out how long it took them last time to get to those numbers for you guys.

I didnt get results yet, but based on my proposed key I should be around a 94 or so, so I'm guessing my list number will be somewhere in the 300's or 400's

[Jayc6018]

I'd say it will take a couple years, I'm going to find out how long it took them last time to get to those numbers for you guys.

I didnt get results yet, but based on my proposed key I should be around a 94 or so, so I'm guessing my list number will be somewhere in the 300's or 400's

2 yrs? well that isn't too bad, actually thats great considering how a lot of city agencies take 4 yrs or so to get to you.

[gbotj]

yeah I'll find out for you.

how old are you guys?

[Jayc6018]

yeah I'll find out for you.

how old are you guys?

I just turned 30 in June lol

[bklynbob]

do you know anything about TBTA...do you know any TBTA COPS.... You have no fvcking clue as to what TBTA does. You think because you heard other cops talk about them you know it all.

I've gone through the pages of this thread, and you post nothing but pure bullshyt. You have contributed nothing significant on this thread.

I was a city cop for 21 years,i live in the city,i use the midtown tunnel and the vz bridge frequently. I know exactly what they do.Again they are not cops .Get a thicker skin.it is what it is. If this gets you riled uo ,i doubt you will pass the psych for any le job,son.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I will be 22 in July

[gbotj]

"I was a city cop for 21 years,i live in the city,i use the midtown tunnel and the vz bridge frequently. I know exactly what they do.Again they are not cops .Get a thicker skin.it is what it is. If this gets you riled uo ,i doubt you will pass the psych for any le job,son."

cool, I use the computer everyday. does that make me bill gates? have you ever talked to a BTO? You do not know what you are talking about. What gets me riled up is ignorant idiots who think they are above everyone else.

and dont call me son.

[gbotj]

im 18, I guess I had a lucky saturday.

[gbotj]

"I was a city cop for 21 years"

I bet the last 15 was spent as the broom.

[gbotj]

you know what, I'm going to stop this argument now, before the admin closes the thread and everyone gets screwed.

[Dinosaur32]

gbotj....You need to calm down and take a long hard look at your posts. There is only one agency in NYC that has "cops", the NYPD. All other departments that have a law enforcement function are limited in their scope. BTOs are limited to the bridges and tunnels owned and operated by the Authority. Port Authority cops and MTA cops are likewise restricted. Court Officers work the courthouses and the surrounding streets. Do these agencies back each other up? Absolutely. Do their officers make collars? Certainly. But none of them are "cops" in the NYPD sense.

[gbotj]

sure in the NYPD sense, but this guy thinks they are security guards.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I have a neighbor who is a BTO he is a really nice guy and he said that the TBTA has their share of LE work but if you want to go out and collar EDPs all day this isn't the place for you . He said it is a great job and he would recommend anyone interested in being an LEO to get into it, that and the NYPD only hates them because the BTOs get more DWI collars than they do lol. ( those were his words , not mine)

[Tor319]

i received my packet last week
i just received my results on sat. nov. 10th
i scored a 95.294 my list # is 65

but i have a problem i don't have my drivers lic.
i'm waiting on a road test scheduled for jan. is there any way for me to get get dcas and or the tbta to put me on hold so i can just go in for the next class?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I don't know how it'll go deferring your academy

[Cadet2020]

Just received my score from DCAS....94 ...list 100

[gbotj]

sure you can defer.

I assume you recieved a packet in the mail, so when you report on the 27th let them know your situation and they will put on hold until you get your drivers license.

once you get your drivers license you can be put in the next class.

at the orientation they should tell you when they expect to put the class in (I'm told end of december or 1st week of january) if your road test is before that date, then continue with the process, if not defer.

[gbotj]

according to the proposed key, I should have about a 94. I think I may have to call TBTA and make sure nothing was lost in the mail.

[Ant61683]

I just turned 24 .. gbotj don't forget about that information ...

[gbotj]

yep, he goes back in on tuesday so I wont find out until then. Once I get it, I'll jump right on line and send out the PM's.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

you gonna send me one too?

[gbotj]

sure, I forgot to send you the first PM, check your inbox now.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

thanks I replied

[bklynbob]

do you know anything about TBTA...do you know any TBTA COPS.... You have no fvcking clue as to what TBTA does. You think because you heard other cops talk about them you know it all.

I've gone through the pages of this thread, and you post nothing but pure bullshyt. You have contributed nothing significant on this thread.

If you can get this worked up i cyberspace,you don't have the the temperment to carry a weapon.I suspect by your age you have a lot of growing up to do,good luck in your future endeavors.

[Jay-P]

bklynbob big deal that they are not "cops"! Are their lives in danger? Are they getting shot at? And they make more money than PD does with the overtime! WOW, "you aren`t cops"! There are more Peace Officers than there are police officers! REMEMBER THAT! Law Enforcement should be regarded as the same but there is always an a-hole in the bunch to try an put others down! Bet when he calls in a 13, he doesn`t care what agency save his azz!:confused:

[gbotj]

bob, this is over. Its done.

it seems like your the one that needs to grow up. I was the bigger man to end this before the thread gets locked and others who are waiting dont miss out on info but you need to have the last word.

just forget about it.

however I will leave you with one last thought. If your such a grown up seasoned vet, then why is it that you must continue a cyberspace fight?

forget it.

[rtmcqueen]

You guy's are off base, NYPD, TBTA, NYCDOC, NYSCO, all have the power to make arrest..... It does not matter. if you see it you can act............ I'm with NYCDOC and we can and do it all. i can say as far as NYC it goes nypd and then its correction and so on. if any other leo needs help it does not matter i will be there to help. i had one nypd officer tell me that MTAP, BTO,NYSCO, SANT is not on the job only nypd and corr. ???? thats crazy thinking, can any of those mentioned above arrest a nypd officer, the answer is yes-so trhey are on the job.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I'm with rtmc on this, it really doesn't matter they can all make collars they all have authority, who really cares what classification they are on here, what really matters is what they can do on their mandated posts, NYPD has the city streets, BTOs have the bridges and tunnels, DOC has the prisons, etc. thats the reason these agencies exist so lets stop the online fighting.


and gbotj I dont think bob was trying to continue an online argument there I think he was just saying youre getting a bit riled up over this. I'm not picking sides I'm just stating.

[Ant61683]

Has anyone else received packets or Notice of Result ???

[Peconic]

Off topic here, but because I am a L.E. info geek, I figured this would be the thread to ask. Does TBTA have specialized units (i.e. k-9, investigations, SRT, etc)? Just wondering! Good luck to you all.

[Jayc6018]

Off topic here, but because I am a L.E. info geek, I figured this would be the thread to ask. Does TBTA have specialized units (i.e. k-9, investigations, SRT, etc)? Just wondering! Good luck to you all.

Yes they have it as well at MTAP and PAPD!!!

[Peconic]

Yes they have it as well at MTAP and PAPD!!!

I am aware of the units of the MTA PD and PAPD, but was wondering about the TBTA. They do in fact have all of those specialized units? Interesting, I had no idea.

[Cadet2020]

Ok lets stop arguments...some people are going to believe what they want to believe even when given the facts....lets keep the important TBTA info coming....oh yea and jbotj great youtube clip....its a great when you have one LE agency assisting another....great job TBTA & NYPD.

[gbotj]

TBTA has a special operations division, highway patrol unit, and they also have a police cobat shooters team.

[gbotj]

I got my list number today, I'm 260-270 area.

I called up human resources, and the guy said they sent packets out to the first 225 names. I missed it by 40 people.

He said I'll be in the next group in early 2008.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

so the Original number of elgibles is 5,986 the call that I made to DCAS didnt do anything except give me the most pointless info gbotj are you sure theyre up to 225? and do you have a number that i can call so i can speak to a real person?

[Stackit02]

top 30 for me

They are going to invite 225 people to orientation and then only take 30?

Anyone know exactly how much OT is available or what the starting salary of $36K could actually look like with overtime?

[gbotj]

yes 225. They sent out the booklets before they established the list, and sent out packets to what they anticipated to be #225 on the eligible list.

I didnt talk to DCAS I called TBTA Human Resources.

yes, they invite alot of people for orientation. You have to remember alot of people will not show up from getting on other jobs or deciding they do not want to be BTO's. Out of that 225, I'd expect 180-200 to actually show up to the orientation, about 5 people walk out, then others who will go to orientation but drop out of the process. Altogether there would be about 130 people going through the process, and then the people being weeded out for backround issues, drug test, medicals, physicals, psych's. This is the usual number.

[gbotj]

$36,900 starting pay, plus cash-in-cash-out + Uniform alowance = $3,200 + night diff (if put on nights) about $45,000 w/o OT. then factor in mandatory OT your looking at 48k first year.

[RomanArts]

wow where do u get that numbder from guyyyyyy. the 36,900 is base check in check out is 2k uniform allowance you dont get till 2009. how do you get 45k again? and that question about specialiazed units u got all wrong as well special operations is highway and the combat shooting team is only a team of gun enthusiasts then we have two btos in a joint task force and thats it

[RomanArts]

oh and by the way noone jams you up for making collars or writing summonses i dont know what that supposedly 21 year old veteran of " NYPD" is saying and why he is even on this thread also there is no anymosity between us and NYPD. the job is a job and its what u make outta of it if u want to dive, tuck and roll to get away from live rounds ,work undercover, do the pit maneuveur, have an AR-15 on duty, be called serpico, be in prostitution stings, raid drug dens this might not be the job for you but if u dont mind sitting in a booth collecting 4.50 one day then collaring up the next day ,patrol the bridge another day, be on a checkpoint when its 20F outside then this is a job for you .dont listen to noone right now your job is to get on a job go through academy come out in the field and make your own decision, but all that other bull**** ohh you guys are not real cops, people look down on you if u make a collar or write a summons, you are TOLICE, you are not real cops and all this type of **** unless they been there done it. what makes a cop anyway? can you arrest? can u issue a summons? do you carry on/off duty? do you have a shield? are you law enforcement? are you proud of what you do?

[fedguy889]

oh and by the way noone jams you up for making collars or writing summonses i dont know what that supposedly 21 year old veteran of " NYPD" is saying and why he is even on this thread also there is no anymosity between us and NYPD. the job is a job and its what u make outta of it if u want to dive, tuck and roll to get away from live rounds ,work undercover, do the pit maneuveur, have an AR-15 on duty, be called serpico, be in prostitution stings, raid drug dens this might not be the job for you but if u dont mind sitting in a booth collecting 4.50 one day then collaring up the next day ,patrol the bridge another day, be on a checkpoint when its 20F outside then this is a job for you .dont listen to noone right now your job is to get on a job go through academy come out in the field and make your own decision, but all that other bull**** ohh you guys are not real cops, people look down on you if u make a collar or write a summons, you are TOLICE, you are not real cops and all this type of **** unless they been there done it. what makes a cop anyway? can you arrest? can u issue a summons? do you carry on/off duty? do you have a shield? are you law enforcement? are you proud of what you do?

+1

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Right on man, right on

[gbotj]

I've been waiting for roman to post. Finally, someone who knows from first hand experience.

I thought SOD was seperate from CRU?

[Jay-P]

$36,900 starting pay, plus cash-in-cash-out + Uniform alowance = $3,200 + night diff (if put on nights) about $45,000 w/o OT. then factor in mandatory OT your looking at 48k first year.

With manditory ot, you`re looking at $58-$65,000 for the first year! My father in law is a 20 year BTO vet! When you get in, you`ll hear a lot about Mr. Spivey! Also have a cousin who`s been on the job for 4 years as well at BBT.:D

[gbotj]

jay-p are you going to take the exam again in june?

[gbotj]

so roman, tell us about the job, how do you like it?

[Jayc6018]

Hey man being in TBTA is a damn good job as well as NYC deputy sheriff or any other LE job outside of the NYPD thats why people usually go after jobs like PAPD, MTAP, BTO and the likes because 1. They start out and pay way more than NYPD and 2 its better moral from what I hear.

Although there are some con's with those jobs but what isn't. I'll give nypd 1 plus and thats is you can move up relatively fast into almost any unit plus you get to move around a bigger geographical area otherwise theres really not much difference in the job function. Like Roman said its what you make it.

[Jay-P]

jay-p are you going to take the exam again in june?

gbotj, didn`t know that there was another test in June! If there is, I`ll be taking it again! Didn`t study for the last one. Will make sure I do this time!!! My wife scored a 77. something. She`ll never be called either. Unless someone can help us;)

[Jay-P]

Hey man being in TBTA is a damn good job as well as NYC deputy sheriff or any other LE job outside of the NYPD thats why people usually go after jobs like PAPD, MTAP, BTO and the likes because 1. They start out and pay way more than NYPD and 2 its better moral from what I hear.

Although there are some con's with those jobs but what isn't. I'll give nypd 1 plus and thats is you can move up relatively fast into almost any unit plus you get to move around a bigger geographical area otherwise theres really not much difference in the job function. Like Roman said its what you make it.
True Jayc but when you start, they put you in the city`s worst areas! Like East New York Bklyn LOL!:o

[gbotj]

yeah filing opens up in feb. 08

now atleast you know what the test will be like.

[Ant61683]

Hey gbotj have you got that information ???

[gbotj]

oh yeah, I forgot to send it.

[Jayc6018]

Hey gbotj what info do you have? is it an inside track to TBTA? if so hook me up and send that pm lol

[gbotj]

hahaha, not inside track to TBTA. I think I sent it to you.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

There is no june 08 exam scheduled for the TBTA

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

The exam info posted before for another BTO exam was not set in stone and has been removed from the DCAS list of exams, furthermore theyve established a list so what would be the point? so sadly next BTO exam is in 2011...or 2010

[gbotj]

oh wow,
I thought they were just going to hire off of two lists

[MasterMason]

Dose anyone know from past tests how long it takes to get called with this score and list number?

[gbotj]

429 should be 3rd group.

probably late 08'

[MasterMason]

I guess they dont hire that many people then?

[gbotj]

they hire 30 people for each class, and put in 3-5 classes a year.

what I meant was you should be in the academy by late 08' you should recieve a packet and begin the process around mid 08'

[Miro1118]

they hire 30 people for each class, and put in 3-5 classes a year.

what I meant was you should be in the academy by late 08' you should recieve a packet and begin the process around mid 08'

What do you think my chances are for the first class with # in 130's? I hear that about 2 in 10 make the cut. Is that about right?

[gbotj]

#130.....your in baby.

[gbotj]

you just have to pass the BI, medical, physical, and psych

[Miro1118]

you just have to pass the BI, medical, physical, and psych

Yes I know. Any news on when the physical will be for the first batch of candidates?

They are talking about a class in January right?

[gbotj]

yeah, the academy should be around first week of jan.

you'll find out when the physical will be when you go in for orientation.

[Cadet2020]

Well since there is about a week till the first batch of us TBTA candidates go in for the orientation...can someone who knows give us an insight on whats going to happen that day....thanks

[RomanArts]

cadet2020 this forum went form the last list until this one so u will prb find an aswer for that on prior pages like towards the beginning somewhere. good luck

[Miro1118]

Is there a 5 pt. NYC Residency credit for this exam?

[gbotj]

no residency credit, just vet's and legacy.

[vab1978]

Anyone attending the meeting tomorrow,

Can you keep your ears open for the following information and post an answer here:

1) I heard the TBTA requires a 3 year commitment in the job. Is this true?

2) If you are transferring from a City agency, how much annual leave (vacation), can you transfer into the TBTA. I had a friend who recently transferred to a civilian job at NYPD and ended up losing almost a month of vacation time.

Thanks

[Miro1118]

Anyone attending the meeting tomorrow,

Can you keep your ears open for the following information and post an answer here:

1) I heard the TBTA requires a 3 year commitment in the job. Is this true?

2) If you are transferring from a City agency, how much annual leave (vacation), can you transfer into the TBTA. I had a friend who recently transferred to a civilian job at NYPD and ended up losing almost a month of vacation time.

Thanks

Three Year commitment? Where did you hear that? I will certainly be listening and post. Did anyone else hear about that?

[vab1978]

Three Year commitment? Where did you hear that? I will certainly be listening and post. Did anyone else hear about that?


I heard it from a guy who took the 2003 test (so the information is probably old). He decided not to take the job.

[gbotj]

Good luck to all going in on orientation tomorrow.

[Cadet2020]

For those who been there or know...any pointers for tom?...other than being on time, bringing your things, and paying attention...

[Miro1118]

Info from today:

260 or so people invited
140 showed.
They said they invited the number of people that it takes historically to hire 56 people (2 classes of 28)
1st class (first 28 is probably January)
No mention about when the other 28 whould be in class I figure around April
No mention of 3 year committment
Transfer of vacation from another agency was not discussed
Physical on 12/18 if you pass the drug test and the BI.
They talked to us about Benefits, Retirement plans, Job description, vacation and sick etc....

[gbotj]

yeah thats pretty much how many I expected to show up. That 140 is only going to be good enough for one class, and maybe if lucky 5 for the next.

What date is your drug test, and BI?

how long were you there for?

what was the environment like? (did they ask if there was any questions or anything)

Sorry for all the questions, thanks.

[Miro1118]

You really think 140 will only make a class of 28?

It was supposed to take 4 hrs. We were there 5 hours or more. Long lines to get fingerprints and check paperwork.

You fill out a form for the BI check and they send it to an outside agency for processing.

My drug test is This Friday. Everyone got different days. You pick one facility out of three and they give you the next available appt.

People asked a lot of questions.

From what I heard there were many city and postal workers looking to switch to BTO.

[gbotj]

thanks for the answers, theyre much appreciated. Yes I do think 140 will be good for only 1- 1 1/2 classes. If you look back through the pages TBTA sends out packets to new groups every 3 months. Once one class goes in, another gets processed. 28 out of 140 works out to be 1 out of every 5 will make the academy. Plus there are alot of people who just show up to the orientation just to see what the job is about and do not continue with the process, then the drug test will weed ALOT of people out along with the medical and backround check.

[Cadet2020]

Yea it was professional and informative, about 6 hours.....56 I believe is the magic number....then again it was funny to hear some people complain about working mandatory overtime hours and holidays....lol
The hiring process seems to be faster compared to other agencies and the academy should begin in the beginning of Jan 08....

[Jayc6018]

Are they big on credit checks? my credit isn't the best in the world due to being young and dumb years ago in college.

[Tor319]

some one asked if they did credit checks they stated they didnt
it was funny hearing some guys at a table talking about "what peace officers powers are" since everything they were saying was wrong
funny people dont even have the job yet and they think they know it already
talked with a few guys there seemed like a decent bunch
even ran into a cop from the 75th pct who was looking to switch over
there were alot of current and former city employees there a couple of current mta employees a few federal employees
overall a very diverse group
hopefully i'll pass my road test on dec 28th so i can make it for the 1st class

[Miro1118]

Tor/Cadet, Where were you sitting? I was at the middle table second row.

[Tor319]

in the back middle table 2nd to last row they came in and made that last row of tables & chairs behind my row when they realized they didn't have enough seating space i'm the guy who got up and asked if it was necessary to redo my prints and pay for 'em even though i'm a city employee and dcas has my prints on file [btw the answer was yes what a rip]

[vab1978]

My guess is that there were so many employees from City agencies because the TBTA pension plan is better than the regular City pension plans. Good luck to all.

[rtmcqueen]

i took the 2065 and went through the whole process, the money was not good, no 20 and out, i went with doc. not to bash bto, its still a good job to have.:)

[Cadet2020]

I was @ the middle....the pension is 20 and out...but you would have to be atleast 50 and over...which still doesn't make it that bad....and if I heard correctly, lots of OT for the workaholics...of course depending where you work at....I'm looking forward for Jan, any pointers for those who went through the hiring process...is it somewhat similar to the NYPD?

[gbotj]

boooo rtmcqueen, get out of here you traitor. We dont like your kind.


hahaha, just messin bro. How long ago did you go through the process?

[gbotj]

From what I was told the medical is pretty much the same as NYPD. I dont think you meet with a backround investigator, maybe just to clear some things up, but its a DCAS investigator. The physical is a .65 mile run in 7.5 minutes, run 2 flights of stairs in 28 seconds, and complete the trigger pull (you dry fire a gun in a 9 inch diameter ring 16 times) thats from the last physical given, it might have changed for new classes. I think the drug test is a urine test, unlike the NYPD's dole test too. Maybe someone can expand on all of this.

Cadet, good luck on the january class. Now when I get on, I'll have someone to show me the ropes....*cough cough lucky sonofabitch cough cough* lol.

[jmscat14]

Hey Guys Did Anyone Check Out "the Chief" It Has All The Names And List Numbers.i'm A Bto And Graduated With Roman And Believe Me I Love This Job. I've Been At My Bridge For Three Months And I Had Security Spots I Drove The Rmp, And Plenty Of Le And Doing Plenty Of Over Time.yeah You Collect Tolls But I Have Fun Doing That Too,this Job Is Cake. Tbta Goes Thru those List Numbers Quick.Every Thing Roman Said Is True.yoooooooo Roman I'll Call You This Week.

[jmscat14]

Hey Guys Did Anyone Check Out "the Chief" It Has All The Names And List Numbers.i'm A Bto And Graduated With Roman And Believe Me I Love This Job. I've Been At My Bridge For Three Months And I Had Security Spots I Drove The Rmp, And Plenty Of Le And Doing Plenty Of Over Time.yeah You Collect Tolls But I Have Fun Doing That Too,this Job Is Cake. Tbta Goes Thru those List Numbers Quick.Every Thing Roman Said Is True.yoooooooo Roman I'll Call You This Week.

[Jayc6018]

Hey Guys Did Anyone Check Out "the Chief" It Has All The Names And List Numbers.i'm A Bto And Graduated With Roman And Believe Me I Love This Job. I've Been At My Bridge For Three Months And I Had Security Spots I Drove The Rmp, And Plenty Of Le And Doing Plenty Of Over Time.yeah You Collect Tolls But I Have Fun Doing That Too,this Job Is Cake. Tbta Goes Thru those List Numbers Quick.Every Thing Roman Said Is True.yoooooooo Roman I'll Call You This Week.

Wow thanks bro, should we check out this weeks chief or last week? do they have a website?

[RomanArts]

big JOE whats up baby we are all doing great dec 4th is comign we get to carry off duty woohooo. listen guys good luck to all of you and you will all be just fine dont go in there acting like you know it all and thats all even if u know somethign keep it to urselves. JOE GIMME A CALL THIS WEEK OR WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE.

[gbotj]

Thanks for the info on the job.
Hopefully one day I can join you guys.

One question though, why do you have to wait til december 4th to carry off duty?

[fedguy889]

One question though, why do you have to wait til december 4th to carry off duty?

My GUESS would be that the Chief said no to off duty carry in the past with the use of your creds. And if the Chief says no, then you can't (even if you are covered by LEOSA).

[Miro1118]

So after you exit the academy you can only carry when you are on tour and to and from the facility? And then after a certain amount of time you can carry off duty as well?

Also, Do you pay for you uniform and firearm up front? What does that cost?

[gbotj]

I'm guessing at the end of your tour you have to lockup your service auto in your locker and once you reach your 6 month mark you are allowed to carry off duty.

[Dinosaur32]

No matter what job you're on...you only carry your firearm at the pleasure of the administration.

[fedguy889]

No matter what job you're on...you only carry your firearm at the pleasure of the administration.

Exactly!!!:D

[Viper2007]

As discussed on here in the past, TBTA officers can carry off duty as per their NYS Peace Officer Status. However, the TBTA requires that they wait until after their 6 month of employement before they carry off duty. They get the guns at the end of the 3 month academy. The guns then have to be kept at the facility for the next 3 months.

For those of us that will potentially be hired in January, we would be allowed to carry off duty sometime in June.

This is my understanding of their rules. For the guys on the dept already, am I accurate here?

[RomanArts]

Can't be anymore accurate then that

[gbotj]

good. That will weed out (or just deter) the people who just want this job for a gun.

[Cadet2020]

Funny gbotj....I don't mind helping others....I just want to start my law enforcement career...even though I know the TBTA makes you do a variety of jobs on a daily basis....I've heard and read many good things about it....I'm just going to stay focused from now till Jan....good luck to all...

[gbotj]

thats the way to be cadet. stay focused and keep your eye on the prize.
the physical should be cake, but I'd still practice for it. oh and how'd your drug test go? (whoever took it, I cant remember if it was you cadet, or someone else)

[gbotj]

Hey roman, I have a question

While in the academy do they ask for a wish list on what facilities you'd like to be assigned to?

[Miro1118]

oh and how'd your drug test go? (whoever took it, I cant remember if it was you cadet, or someone else)

That would be me. Took the test at 8 am this morning. They said it takes 48 hrs to get the results in. It will be a quick turn around to get the Drug test and BI done in time to send notification for a 12/18 physical. I wonder if the invite is really contingent on those two things.

I am really looking forward to appointment as well. I hope I make the first 28 so I can start in January.

[Viper2007]

Theres rumors floating around about a hiring freeze.. The exemption to the freeze is public safety and hospitals. PD and FD fall under the public safety umbrella... but what abotu TBTA? I would imagine so, right? Politically, freezing BTO, PO, CO, and FF hiring would be a disaster for the politicians here. It would also be a security issue as well.

I see this hiring freeze only covering PAA's, administrative office workers, bus drivers, subway operators, DOT, sanitation... We shall see what happens...

[Viper2007]

Miro, I did the urine test also. I guess we just wait for the call to show up for the psych, medical, and physical... Good luck and hopefully we are both classmates next month.

[Jayc6018]

Theres rumors floating around about a hiring freeze.. The exemption to the freeze is public safety and hospitals. PD and FD fall under the public safety umbrella... but what abotu TBTA? I would imagine so, right? Politically, freezing BTO, PO, CO, and FF hiring would be a disaster for the politicians here. It would also be a security issue as well.

I see this hiring freeze only covering PAA's, administrative office workers, bus drivers, subway operators, DOT, sanitation... We shall see what happens...

TBTA/MTA is a state agency, doesn't have anything to do with the city of NY

[rtmcqueen]

the process is quick, you go to a private doctor for your phys. you will be there for an 1/hour, the psyc is on a sat or sun. you wait for a call. remember the 1 of 3 rule because the don't need that many officers so i can say that they do USE IT. I turned them down its to cold on the bridge in the winter. but again it is a good job to have. it took them 4yrs to call me and i was in the low 1300's

[gbotj]

how do you like DOC?

[Viper2007]

"remember the 1 of 3 rule because the don't need that many officers so i can say that they do USE IT."

150 showed up to the orientation. After the ones with background issues, dirty drug tests, people who are no longer interested, and other various things... they will have 50 or 60.

"I turned them down its to cold on the bridge in the winter. but again it is a good job to have."

You turned down the job for BTO and took DOC?????

[gbotj]

plus this Jan a new NYPD class is going in, and that will attract some candidates

[rtmcqueen]

thsts right, the starting pay is not that great as a BTO, at DOC it beats TBTA hands down, 50-20, top pay is 50k, and etc. there are only about 300 to 400 bto no more than 450 last time i checked. BTO is a good job but it's not for me. Viper i thought you took the NYCDOC test what happand.:confused:

[gbotj]

theres actually about 850 BTO's, and starting pay for BTO is $36,900 corrections is 26k.

[rtmcqueen]

still the same message, 850-doc 9850 your chances are better to get on. starting pay is 26-27 but it still beats BTO. BTO top pay is 52-Doc is around 73 after 5. like i said BTO is a good job but DOC to me is a better job to have. :D

[Viper2007]

rtmc, I took the DOC test. However, I'm not too keen on the idea of being locked up with con's everyday. IF TBTA does not pan out, I will probably go for DOC or maybe the DC Police.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I read this entire thread... this is the first time that you said you 'turned the BTO job down'... You posts from 2006 said 'you were taking whatever calls you first'. According to you, BTO did... or maybe they didn't?

52k might be top pay for BTO. However, there is plenty of OT to go around according to the people at the MTA last week. They are also getting a new contract soon.. hopefully. I'm not really doing this for the salary. I am doing it for the health benefits, job security, and pension plan. If I wanted to make a lot of money, I would go work on Wall Street.

[gbotj]

+1 viper.

good find.

[rtmcqueen]

offer the job first, NYCDOC offered first, BTO came along 2nd. as I said before I went with what was best for me and that will be DOC. I see that your trying to mix up words. Did you ever get offerd a job and turned it down ???. your focus is off, your questions should be how was the process at TBTA-DOC since i went through it already and passed both.:eek: as i said before BTO is a good job.

PS. your starting to sound like gg

[Viper2007]

offer the job first, NYCDOC offered first, BTO came along 2nd. as I said before I went with what was best for me and that will be DOC. I see that your trying to mix up words. Did you ever get offerd a job and turned it down ???. your focus is off, your questions should be how was the process at TBTA-DOC since i went through it already and passed both.:eek: as i said before BTO is a good job.

PS. your starting to sound like gg

Ok, I'll bite and have some fun with this one.... You claim that DOC called you first...

On 1/15/2007 rtmcqueen said "the class for BTO is Feb 12 the NYCDOC class in the end of march. its a catch 22. I will go with BTO if the call me for the Feb 12 class, if they don't I will go with correction. it who calls me first."

Right, so the TBTA should have called you for either the Feb 2007 class or the June 2007 class.

On 8/28/07 rtmcqueen said "I GOT THE CALL, pre at 3pm today. It feels good baby. "

You say that DOC called you in August 2007. However in your last post, you said that BTO called you AFTER DOC hired you. My friend, that would be impossible- the last class that TBTA hired was in June of 2007, two months BEFORE NYC DOC hired you. With all due respect, I am going to say that you are full of crap. You were never called for TBTA.

As far as me sounding like gq, negative on that. He had a multitude of background issues... I don't see what you're driving at with that accusation.

[rtmcqueen]

i'm going to say this, get offerd a job first. I got offered 2, like i said I went with DOC. my background by DECAS was not cleared until july and Wells did call and offer :cool:(I DID NOT WANT THE JOB AT BTO) do you get it. you should pray that you get the offer. That's what you need to understand. I GOT THE JOB. I remember you just running off with post about nothing and trying to bait other posters. You think you know everything and your not even on the job yet. Your just a wanna be at this point. let real law enforcement answer questions that you should not. :eek::eek::eek:

[gbotj]

I never saw viper answer any questions about being otj.

[Viper2007]

i'm going to say this, get offerd a job first. I got offered 2, like i said I went with DOC. my background by DECAS was not cleared until july and Wells did call and offer :cool:(I DID NOT WANT THE JOB AT BTO) do you get it. you should pray that you get the offer. That's what you need to understand. I GOT THE JOB. I remember you just running off with post about nothing and trying to bait other posters. You think you know everything and your not even on the job yet. Your just a wanna be at this point. let real law enforcement answer questions that you should not. :eek::eek::eek:


I was offered a few LE jobs already. One in Florida and the other upstate. I wanted to stay in NYC, so I did not take them.

As far as me thinking I know everything, I don't. I never claimed that I did.

As far as the 'wanna be' comment goes... You're right, I want to be a TBTA Officer very badly... as do 4,000 other people on the list. You were a 'wanna be' up until 3 months ago.

You said 'let real law enforcement answer questions'.... you were hired at the end of August or beginning of Sept... as far as I know, you're still in the academy... nice try though.

I noticed some inconsistancy in your posts. I called BS on what you said. You started to besmerch the BTO job after called BS on your post. I then used your exact words to paint out why I think your BSing. You then relied on personally attacking me as a way to veer away from the topic at hand- your BS posts.

Let me just have one more bit of fun with this one... in your last post to me you said "my background by DECAS was not cleared until july and Wells did call and offer (I DID NOT WANT THE JOB AT BTO) do you get it."

Again, your full of crap. Even if you were cleared in July, there is NO WAY you were called and offered a job by TBTA. Their last class was hired in June- one month before you were cleared. Unless they were going to hire you and you only (which would never happen-they hire 28 at a time), there is no way that you were offered anything from TBTA.

I expect your next post to contain no substance at all. It will probably be filled with personal attacks aimed at me. But thats ok. I proved my point using your own words. I'm going to end this one right here. Anything else you want to add to this, rtmcqueen?

I think we should just dead this here and let it be.. fair enough??

[Stackit02]

Hey Viper-

Are you planning on getting into the January academy? If so, I have to remember to stay on your good side! Haha Hope to see you in there!

[rtmcqueen]

dead this conv-hahahah, like i said when you go throught both processes let me know- when you get both job offers let me know- when you turn one down let me know - as stated in all my post I still think BTO is a good job for some but not for me. also you said you noticed some inconsistancy in my posts really did i say anything about turning TBTA Down or was i talking about the process and how i feel. please keep in mind that i got the calls and your still praying for the call like i was. but i never downed any other poster like you did. if you checked those post you will see that i edit them for a reason....... my BG Inv was on this site and was reading my post. good luck to you and i hope that once you get on you fall back with all this BS you been posting about because its not a good look.:eek:

[Viper2007]

Let's leave it at that. There no need to argue anymore over this. Good luck with the rest of the Academy. Have a safe and speedy 20 years with the DOC.

[Cadet2020]

Drug testing this week....what's next...

[gbotj]

the physical.

[Ant61683]

Good luck with the drug test ... When would you find out the results of that ???

[rtmcqueen]

Good luck with the drug test ... When would you find out the results of that ???


they don't tell you that you pass, you just get to go to the randells island to do your run, if you fail you will get a letter from them

[Miro1118]

Anybody get a notice for the Physical yet?

[Cadet2020]

Nothing yet....whoever gets any notice, let us know...

[Viper2007]

Nothing yet here. Hopefully we all hear something by Friday.

[gbotj]

so as it looks you guys (going on in jan.) will be getting out in april. You guys are lucky, You'll hit the street in warm weather. You'll actually save a bit of money at first (wont need thermos, turtlenecks, winter gear until the following fall)

[Miro1118]

12/18 at 9 am on Randalls Island. It says Interview and Physical.

It says that there is no parking at the facility, we need to take a shuttle bus from 125th and lex which leaves at 8:30.

[gbotj]

yikes 8:30 for a 9am appointment thats going to cut it a little close. Make sure you get their early just in case the bus leaves early.

[gbotj]

actually 125th & Lex is right off the triborough bridge in manhattan. It would only be a 2 minute drive to randalls island.

[Cadet2020]

Interview and physical .... on the same day...? Wouldn't that make it a difficult wardrobe day....sweats or a suit?... also, I've been to Randall's Island before...and one thing that island does have is alot of parking....unless its restricted....

[Miro1118]

I just called to confirm attendance. They said come dressed appropriately for the run. In the interview they take into account that yoou also have the physical.

I was wondering why they are not allowing us to park at randalls. I hope that this is not the case when we start the academy. I would prefer to drive there if possible. Can anyone confirm if we will be able to park at the academy?

[jmscat14]

hey guys, we all went in sweats i brought my suit just in case but believe me you dont need it. something else must be going on that day thats why i guess your not allowed to park in the parking lot.when your in the academy you dif park in the parking lot,u get a parking permit.

[Cadet2020]

Even though I haven't received any notification for the physical/interview...can anyone tell us how its set up? Interview first or physical? Interview just based on review of BI, or case scenario type questions...? Thanks

[rtmcqueen]

Even though I haven't received any notification for the physical/interview...can anyone tell us how its set up? Interview first or physical? Interview just based on review of BI, or case scenario type questions...? Thanks

the physical is first and the interview is 2nd. also its first come first served.

[gbotj]

...................................

[Stackit02]

I got my letter today saying to be at Randall's Island at 7:00 AM, which means I have to catch the shuttle bus no later than 6:30am. I guess I got the earlier shift, which works out nicely, maybe I can still get to work at a reasonable hour.

[rtmcqueen]

did you speak to wells.

[gbotj]

yeah I think she's the head of HR.

[rtmcqueen]

that she is, well if she said next class, then its next class. alan greenberg is the head guy that hire BTO's. they will get you through the process very quick, but if something comes up in your background then DCAS takes over and i can tell you first hand it take a while for them to complete the BI, and there was no face to face with them. everything is by mail or phone. if you pass your BI from them you will get a letter for the head of DCAS telling you that you are good for the job as BTO. The you will get a call from D. Wells or Greenberg with the offer. thats what happend to me. i started the process with them in january i completed everything by march, DCAS put a hold on me and that did not clear until july. got the letter from DCAS and i would say about 2wks letter d. wells called and ask if i still want the job. <i said no, not at this time> got a letter from greenberg stating that i refused the offer in August started with DOC in august.:)

[Cadet2020]

Received the phy/inter letter today!.....left a message for the attendance....since the physical part is explained...what does the interview consist of....?

[gbotj]

As of right now, I've made a couple calls, and MAY just MAY be able to be squeezed into the process for the jan. class. I'm just a couple steps behind (drug test and fingerprints). So I have my fingers crossed right now.

[Miro1118]

Received the phy/inter letter today!.....left a message for the attendance....since the physical part is explained...what does the interview consist of....?


Are you at 9 or 7? I guess they are splitting up the group. I am in the 9, I wonder how many were invited to the 7? Does anyone have a different time?

[rtmcqueen]

you sit down with 2 interviewers and they ask you questions about what you put down. also dress warm you will be running outside in the cold. you do not need to wear or bring a suit.:D

[Cadet2020]

Miro1118, mine is @ 9am I guess there's going to be 2 groups......I wish I could've driven unless someone knows about any kind of parking near the area, but it seems like its going to be the subway in the early morning that day...

rtmcqueen, you said they ask you what you put down...as in the Background Booklet, correct?

[rtmcqueen]

yes, its just like going for a job interview. its not like going to see a nypd or doc Inv. they want to judge you.

[Viper2007]

Do we have to call Wells to confirm that we are showing up to the physical on 12/18??

[gbotj]

Viper, I'd call to confirm.

from now on thats what I'm doing, I'm calling up wells to confirm everything, and make sure I'm in the loop.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Anybody know what list # theyre on?

[gbotj]

..........................

[Jayc6018]

Neuro- they are still on the first group (around 225) but as I said on the previous page, they sent me the packet back in Nov. but it got lost in the mail, and after I questioned it to human resources they told me that I shouldnt expect to get one, and they should reach my list number by early 08 (guy was wrong because they sent one to me). I got a letter yesterday from TBTA stating I was DQ'd because I failed to report to orientation. I cleared that up, and now I'm trying to get squeezed into the current group (I'll definately know by monday). So to the guys still waiting- once they start to get closer to your list number I'd call up HR once a week just to make sure nothing was sent and got lost.

Can you kind and give me the HR number, I will call them once a week for the rest of 08 cause I know they will not get to me until late 08 to early 09

[gbotj]

646-252-7000

just ask to be put through to human resources (they wont give you the phone number)

[Cadet2020]

Yea you have to call to confirm attendance. I called a couple if times....no one answered so I left a message....

[Miro1118]

Anybody know what day in January the Academy is supposed to start?

[Viper2007]

Nobody knows... My guess is the 2nd week of January.

[Ant61683]

Correct me if i'm wrong but a buddy of mine told me his sister who took TBTA exam was list # almost 500 .. He told me she got a big packet in the mail ..

I don't if he is telling me the truth or not ??

[gbotj]

they only invited about 225 there. Thats wrong ant.

[Ant61683]

Thats what I had figured..

[LEIsMyLife21]

Hey guys!! ive been trying to post for what seems like FOREVER!! Finally im activated!! I'm going through the processing for the tbta too..list number 265....i have my physical and interview on tuesday at 1030.

[Tor319]

yeah so i took my drug test on the 5th at mac 5
on the 11th a dr calls me and tells me my sample was abnormal too diluted
they couldn't get a reading from it and that had it been any more diluted I'd have failed for flushing
he was calling just to see if had any medical problems
i ended up calling wells and had to explain to her that i am already a cop
i just recently took a drug test 2 months a go when i did a lateral from one nyc agency to another and of coursed passed
since i don't do anything illegal so she scheduled me to take another drug test the 13th at mac 1
now just waiting till tues. to take the physical I've gotta be there at 7 am ughhh

btw they called 250 people in this group off the list thats what they said at orientation not 225 and only 143 showed up

[gbotj]

............

[Viper2007]

Sounds about right.. 143 at the orientation. You figure 110 showed up and/or passed the drug test. About 10 walked out of the orientation for their own reasons.. That leaves them with 100 candidates. Out of the 100 left, maybe 80 will show up to take the physical.. 70 will pass it. A few will be DQ on background/psych issues.. That should leave them with around 50-60 to hire for two classes. Now I see why they screen over 100 people for 56 jobs.

Hopefully we all get that call and hear some good news in a few weeks.

[gbotj]

I've noticed on this board almost everyone who goes for jobs gets them. So chances are we are in luck.

good luck viper, and all others in this group.

[8bigdaddy8]

just a questions for you guys wondering would no job history dq me, do to lack of employment history??? good luck to all in the process right now..

[gbotj]

no. you can only get DQ'd for a bad background.

I'm 18 right now. I never had a job in HS, and I was a full-time college student and my parents paid for everything as long as I got good grades. TBTA will be my first job.

[rtmcqueen]

you guys don't forget about the 1 of 3 rule.

[Jayc6018]

no. you can only get DQ'd for a bad background.

I'm 18 right now. I never had a job in HS, and I was a full-time college student and my parents paid for everything as long as I got good grades. TBTA will be my first job.

So besides the obvious felony or misdemeanors whats considered a bad background to dq anyone?

[gbotj]

well bad employment history might. Like always being fired from a job or resigning to avoid termination, or quitting because you didnt get along with a boss/co-worker. Anything that can show poor moral character is grounds for a DQ. They may just put you on review and investigate more, but dont expect to skate by with bad employment history. Also association with criminals, if your close to anyone behind bars they want to know how close. Probably alot of other things too.

[Miro1118]

you guys don't forget about the 1 of 3 rule.

Can you elaborate on the 1 in 3 rule? Does that mean that they just choose 1 out of every 3 eligibles after they weed out the Dq's? Or that 1 in 3 make it?

[gbotj]

they choose 1 out of 3 candidates who pass everything.

[vab1978]

I just received a letter from the MTA Bridges and Tunnels saying that I was recently certified on Exam #6091 (I am in the list number 330 range). The letter says it "is to "solicit my interest" in a TEMPORARY BTO position so apparently they are still hiring temps.

What is up with that? They have a whole list of people who have taken the test, scored well and have been certified. Why are they still soliciting temporary BTO's? Did anyone else get this letter? What is going on?

[rtmcqueen]

if your not working take it, if you are working do not. its only for 1yr. also keep in mind that if you mess up on anything it can hurt your chances of becoming a BTO. coming in late, takeing off, coming up short etc. the 1 of 3 is a way for them to just get rid of you. lets say you got in some trouble but they can't Dq you for it, they just use the 1 of 3 on you and there is nothing you can do about it.:(

[Cadet2020]

the 1 of 3 rule? So no matter how great of a background you can have with just minor things like speeding or parking tickets...you can still get the DQ boot...? Well those are some great words of encouragement....

[Viper2007]

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[Viper2007]

the 1 of 3 rule? So no matter how great of a background you can have with just minor things like speeding or parking tickets...you can still get the DQ boot...? Well those are some great words of encouragement....

Cadet, no such thing exists.

[gbotj]

MTAPD & PAPD use the 1 in 3. I forgot about Civil Service Law regarding List #'s.

This chick is full of shyt. She claims she was called in July to be appointed when the last class was June 2007. No other class was put in after that, and no other 2003 listers are being hired.

And anyone who takes NYDC over TBTA needs to have their head checked. Lets see, stay locked up unarmed for 8 hours. Deal with crimials who spit at you, and throw shyt and **** rather than patrol a bridge or tunnel.

[Viper2007]

The PAPD can do whatever it wants. They have their own civil service system. I am not sure about how MTAPD does their hiring. All DCAS list appointments are done in list # order.

[Peconic]

No idea if this helps with anything, but here in Suffolk County, we do use the rule of three(s). This is how it is described in the Suff. Cnty civil service page:

RULE OF ONE OF THREE


The rule of one of three, or simply the "rule of three" as it is often called, plays an important part in the appointment process. The rule of three states that an appointing authority may choose to appoint any one of the three highest-scoring candidates who are willing to accept the appointment. To fully understand the "rule of three", it is necessary to understand Zone Scoring. When eligible lists are established, grades will be presented in zones. Final scores will be round numbers such as 100, 95, 90, 85, etc. This scoring method creates a significant number of tie scores. Every candidate within the same zone has equal standing on the eligible list. Zone Scoring in no way alters the Rule of Three; appointing authorities must still select from among the three highest scoring candidates, and not the three highest scores. In other words, if there are three or more candidates with any given score, or combination of scores, who are willing to accept a position, selection must be made from among these candidates. Only if there are fewer than three candidates in a zone, or combination of zones, may the appointing authority consider candidates in the next lowest zone.

In exercising the rule of three, an appointing authority may use any legal selection criteria. The interview is the most frequent tool used by appointing authorities in making their one of three selection. For this reason, candidates should regard the interview as an important part of the selection process.


This may have NOTHING to do with TBTA, just thought I'd post the procedure.

[rtmcqueen]

Peconic, you hit it on the nose. the 1 of 3 is real viper your still poping off with your comments again. you need to read the civil service law at DCAS. you can have scored 100 on the test and your number 1 on the list, they can still choose 2 or 3 over you for the job. you need to call wells so she can give you information on that. Like i said before you have a big mouth always talking about thing you do not know, you have no legal or civil knowlege always talking about what sombody told you or my friend said this or that. expirence thing for yourself. here you go:

SECTION VII--CERTIFICATION OF ELIGIBLE LISTS AND SELECTION THEREFROM

4.7.1. General Provisions.

(a) The provisions of this section shall apply to the certification of eligible lists by the commissioner of citywide administrative services or, in the case of classes of positions unique to an agency, the certification of eligible lists for such classes by the agency head.

(b) Appointments or promotions shall be made from the established list most nearly appropriate for the position to be filled, as determined by the commissioner of citywide administrative services.

(c) Appointment or promotion from an established eligible list to a position in the competitive class shall be made by the selection of one of the three persons certified by the commissioner of citywide administrative services or the head of the certifying agency, as the case may be, as standing highest on such established list who are qualified and willing to accept such appointment or promotion. Where applicable, such selection shall be made as provided for in paragraph 4.4.12 of these rules.

(d) The rating of each eligible shall be stated in the certification.

(e) The agency head may review the examination application and records of each certified eligible at the office of the department of citywide administrative services

The Department of Citywide Administrative Services has certified sections of the eligible lists below for appointments and promotions in city agencies, subject to the 1-in-3 rule.

please stop with the BS. and by the way you never know who is looking at your post.
one person BTO ??? your still not on the job yet??? dame it hurts right, (Mr i want to be PD-BTO-NYSP-NYDOC etc) you will never get on. I'm 2 and 0 and your what. KEEP HOPE ALIVE.:eek::eek::eek::eek: just in case you forgot--------


dead this conv-hahahah, like i said when you go throught both processes let me know- when you get both job offers let me know- when you turn one down let me know - as stated in all my post I still think BTO is a good job for some but not for me. also you said you noticed some inconsistancy in my posts really did i say anything about turning TBTA Down or was i talking about the process and how i feel. please keep in mind that i got the calls and your still praying for the call like i was. but i never downed any other poster like you did. if you checked those post you will see that i edit them for a reason....... my BG Inv was on this site and was reading my post. good luck to you and i hope that once you get on you fall back with all this BS you been posting about because its not a good look.

[RomanArts]

dont know anything about 1-3 rule but i ma not gonna argue, and viper dont pay attention to noone u just do what u gotta do, keep your head straight. Mind over matter. and good luck to everyone that is going through the process, and whoever else that decided to give it up for their personal reasons.

[Dinosaur32]

Generally the 1-in-3 rule is used when making promotions....the back ground investigation can be used to weed out the unwanted.

[rtmcqueen]

(b) Appointments or promotions shall be made from the established list most nearly appropriate for the position to be filled, as determined by the commissioner of citywide administrative services

[Viper2007]

Assistant Chemical Engineer - .
Assistant Program Specialist -
Associate Cashier -
Automotive Service Worker -
City Planner -
Computer Associate (Technical Support) -
Computer Specialist (Software) -
Construction Project Manager -
Custodian -
Electronic Equipment Maintainer -
Eligibility Specialist -
Housing Development Specialist -
Inspector (Boilers) -
Juvenile Counselor -
Maintenance Worker -
Marine Oiler (Ferry Operations) -
Motor Vehicle Operator
Oiler -
Paralegal Aide -
Power Cable Maintainer -
Project Manager Intern -
Public Health Sanitarian
Real Property Manager -
Recreation Director
Road Car Inspectors
Special Officer

^^^ No mention of BTO up there. Read before you post. This nonsense rule only applies to select lists.. and BTO is not one of them.

[gbotj]

"I think you're right. Corrections was the right choice for you. You will fit right in... and I'm not talking about fitting in with the other officers"

wow! I was just about to post that....great minds must think alike.

[Viper2007]

gb, It's possible.

[gbotj]

its good for a laugh or two.

[rtmcqueen]

That Is Just The Reason Viper & Gbotj Are Not On Any Job And Will
Not..... I Can Promise You That, As I Said Before You Never Know Who Your Talking Too. Here Is Something To Think About Good Luck On Your Next Call To Wells:d:d:d

[gbotj]

good luck in the jails. I've never said anything to compromise my integrity.

you need to grow up queen. Your in the academy right now and its sunday night at 11:00 and your typing away on a forum board. I'm on here so I can interact with other candidates who have some questions and I may have the answers to. Not just come on here and talk about a 1 in 3 rule on every post.

Show some initiative, and get a good night sleep spend more time studying and thinking about your job so you do a good job when you get out there.

oh and I'm not 21 yet so I CANT BE ON A JOB YET OTHER THAN COURTS AND TBTA.

[Tor319]

first off this isn't a civil service job the mta is a state authority. this is not a state civil service job nor is this a nyc job. the mta is using dcas for processing for the same reason it uses dcas to process all its other titles for buses and trains. it makes it easy for them.

2nd off the 1 in 3 rule is not a "rule" it means that usually out of every 3 candidates 2 wash out thats all.

3rd off at orientation they said after you do your physical you get interviewed so yeah they can find reasons to not hire you based on your work history etc.

now heres a bit of advice: this is just a forum every one grow up. this fighting isn't professional nor mature. oh and we are not the only ones who read these forums. read between the lines there.

[gbotj]

I just dont like people being a know-it-all. She comes on here and pretty much knocks peoples hopes by throwing the one in three rule. People going through the process should remain positive. This forum is to help each other out, not be immature and fight.

[Tor319]

ever think of growing up and not responding to nonsense?
thats makes you the bigger person.

if this gets you riled up law enforcement isn't for you
you will be called every thing under the sun but a child of god and you can do nothing about it
the public will blame you for everything and have no problems cursing you out and wishing horrible things on you and your loved ones to your face. and you can do nothing about it. its the job.
and guess what every job has bosses who act like *******s and you have to learn to deal with it, in a professional mature manner.
i am not belittling you but from the way you act here your not mature enough for this type of job. i wouldn't want to be partnered with ya or have ya watch my back. i am not insulting you but trying to tell you how you project yourself. and since you didn't get me the 1st time. BOSSES FROM ALL SORTS OF JOBS TEND TO LURK ON THIS FORUM AND READ THE POSTS I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. so instead of giving people the impression that those applying for this job here are juvenile unprofessional people just cut the nonsense. not everything that is said requires you to reply or feel the need to defend yourself. if some one says something you think is rude then others will notice it too. so there is no need to point out the obvious. but i will say this you know people and have family on the job fine. however i would show any mos on this site a bit of respect and courtesy even those in the academy. they are where you hope to be. and you may yet learn that where they are is not a picnic in any way. and yes i am an mos.

[gbotj]

and I give you all the respect in the world, you do a noble job. and I thank you for pointing out my mistakes. Life is living and learning. You need to learn from your mistakes, and I have. I truely thank you.

[LEIsMyLife21]

so im alittle nervous about the physical and interview part tomorrow....how much earlier would u guys recommend being at randalls island tomorrow depending on your scheduled times?? Is the shuttle bus from 125th the easiest way to get there? any tips?

[rtmcqueen]

Tor319, thanks im out of the academy and a mos. what i was trying to tell them was that any job thats givin by DCAS in civil service. if it was a state job the state would give the test (NYSP, Parks police). what you posted was a new list of the jobs offered form 6/07 to 6/08

BRIDGE AND TUNNEL OFFICER
Exam. No. 6091
Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority
WHEN TO APPLY: From: February 7, 2007 APPLICATION FEE: $40.00
To: February 27, 2007 Payable only by money order to D.C.A.S. (EXAMS)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/bridgeandtunnelofficer.pdf

as Tor319 said we are always on this fourm and by your post you can see how a person would respond in a situation where IPC skills will play a part.
trying to prove me wrong at every turn is not a good look. your login can be traced as you know. if anybody really needs help let me know. for i went throught the process.

[LEIsMyLife21]

hey queen, ya got any good tips for the physical and interview part that alot of us have scheduled tomorrow?? :)

[rtmcqueen]

you will do your physical first, 1 you will do the trigger pull 2 run up and down 2 flights of 24 steps 3 run the .65 in the cold. then you will do your interview. you do not have to were a suit. were a track suit if you have one and a good pair of sneakers. also first come first served. remember the interview will be like going for a job interview not like law enforcement background interview. as stated in my prior post. if you have something in your past DCAS will do the background and that will slow down the process. good luck,

[Cadet2020]

So the physical first then an interview with my best pair of sweats...lol; so let me get this straight since there have been many different answers to a couple of questions, the interview consists of situational questions (such as, what would you do...) or solely background information...?
Good Luck to us all

[gbotj]

how aboout we just put everything behind us, and just go on to help others (and questions we may have).

I'd hate to see a really helpful thread be terminated by the admin, or have others stop viewing because of what it has turned into.

is everyone set to have the physical at the same time, or is it broken into groups on different days?

[LEIsMyLife21]

I thought they said at orientation that if everything goes well with the drug test and the background check that we would be notified for the physical? so those of us that are scheduled for the physical tomorrow does that mean that our background check is already done?? i mean i could be wrong but i thought thats what deborah said....

my appointment is at 10:30...good luck to everyone!!!

[Tor319]

so the physical fitness and agility wasn't so bad.
hardest part is the .65mile run/walk. for those who are still waiting to go make sure you get in running shape. a few sadly failed it in my group.
there is a very good bunch of people who are being considered i think.
ran into some guys from the orientation real cool personable guys. i even ran into an old partner of mine from dhs.
found it interesting that there were so many current and former mos there from a wide array of different agencies.
thought it was a little weird that all the bto cops who were conducting the tests were sgt.s and up. there was even a superintendent or general manager as he had 2 stars on his ball cap for rank.
so now all thats left is the psych and medical and for me personally passing my road test on the 28th so i can get my license.
can any current bto's or people who have gone through the process tell me how many questions the psych is? my current job was 1200 questions
well good luck to all and stay safe!

[LEIsMyLife21]

so i passed the physical and the interview part of the process...it wasnt as bad as i made myself think it was...i mean it wasnt easy either..but i made it thru...psych and medical the rest of the week...any insight from anyone on what to expect would be greatly appreciated...congrats to everyone who made it through today and good luck for the rest of the process!!!

[gbotj]

hey congrats guys.

good luck on the rest of the process.

[rtmcqueen]

written phych is about 1200 to 1500 questions also you get to pick the date for the medical. if all goes well you will have the oral phych.

[Tor319]

LEIsMyLife21 what time did u get to randalls the 7am or the 9am appointment
i prolly saw ya

[LEIsMyLife21]

Tor, i was actually with the 1030 group...i think we were the last group to go...

[LEIsMyLife21]

so what do u guys suggest as appropriate attire for the psych part tomorrow?? dress up.... or comfortable??

[Viper2007]

I would think a button down golf shirt and a nice pair of pants would be fine. A suit and tie is probably overkill...

[gbotj]

actually your supposed to show up in business attire even if it doesnt say. Its better to be the overdressed one than the underdressed one.

Viper, How'd everything go? you can IM me I'm online.

[LEIsMyLife21]

yea i was thinking the same thing gbotj...well good luck to everyone tomorrow!! dont go crazy from now til tomorrow :o)

[gbotj]

yes, everyone DO GOOD. AND STAY AWAY FROM PSYCHO ANSWERS!!


Viper, sorry I missed your message, I had to babysit my niece.

[Jay-P]

:cool:first off this isn't a civil service job the mta is a state authority. this is not a state civil service job nor is this a nyc job. the mta is using dcas for processing for the same reason it uses dcas to process all its other titles for buses and trains. it makes it easy for them.

2nd off the 1 in 3 rule is not a "rule" it means that usually out of every 3 candidates 2 wash out thats all.

3rd off at orientation they said after you do your physical you get interviewed so yeah they can find reasons to not hire you based on your work history etc.

now heres a bit of advice: this is just a forum every one grow up. this fighting isn't professional nor mature. oh and we are not the only ones who read these forums. read between the lines there.
Wrong! TBTA has been using DCAS before the MTA even came in so their not using DCAS because MTA uses them for all of their other exams! The MTA came in only recently with TBTA!!! TBTA is a PRIVATE company! The city only stuck MTA in their to monitor the money!

[GoldBadge]

If anyone on this thread is presently a TBTA officer, please PM me for a question unrelated to employment.

Thanks.

[Jay-P]

Triborough Bridge And Tunnel Authority`s Bridges and Tunnels are PRIVATE property and even the NYPD can be told to get OFF and OUT of the said bridges and tunnels!

[bklynbob]

Triborough Bridge And Tunnel Authority`s Bridges and Tunnels are PRIVATE property and even the NYPD can be told to get OFF and OUT of the said bridges and tunnels!

ok

[Tor319]

:cool:
Wrong! TBTA has been using DCAS before the MTA even came in so their not using DCAS because MTA uses them for all of their other exams! The MTA came in only recently with TBTA!!! TBTA is a PRIVATE company! The city only stuck MTA in their to monitor the money!

the mta took over the tbta just like they did the private bus lines there is no "tbta" any more its called the MTA TBTA on all its paperwork.
if you read what i wrote above i said they use dcas because its easy for them to. as dcas already has a testing system in place hence the mta tbta doesnt have to spend the money and man power themselves but a fee to dcas. the tbta used it b4 the mta's take over for the same reason. either way the point behind my post was that it was a state authority and not a state or city agency hence not a civil service job. just out of wonderment whats with your hyper response? kinda infantile.

[Tor319]

moving on i took the psych today
man was that long and tedious.
i go on the 8th for my oral psych and i have my medical tomorrow. god willing i'll be in that 1st class. [keeping fingers crossed]
good luck to every who is going through it.

[DOCSatTheGunk]

Hey Bridge and Tunnel Officers:

NYS Corrections here, lemme ask you guys something? Are they giving this test any time soon? I'm looking to make a change of employment...

[LEIsMyLife21]

tor ur right those tests sure were long and tedious...i thought it was never going to end!! my oral psych is on the 5th and my medical is on saturday!! fingers crossed over here also!! i would love to get this job!!

Good Luck everyone!! hope to see you all in the academy!!!