Pfpa

[BigO1124]

I just completed my Physical Fitness Battery for the PFPA. I'm inquiring to see if there are any other PFPA applicants here and the stage they are at in the hiring process.

[efe1979]

I completed my fitness test mid January

[BigO1124]

EFE,

It was my understanding that the security background was done prior to the fitness test but in your case, as it appears, it is taking a while due to your coordination with Immigration. The lady who administered the Physical Fitness Battery said that I would be receiving a call this week in regard to a start date. Just waiting for the call. All the best to you in the process.

--O--

[WhatIlive4]

I completed my physical, medical screening in January. I haven't heard from them since then. But they have contacted my references, but I have no idea how long this will take. I had my initial interview back in November. Good luck.

[efe1979]

this position only requires a Secret Clearance, right?

[JANGCO]

I Applied In Early January And They Called Me By The Second Week In February. I Just Completed My Interview On The 9th Of March. I Currently Have A Ts Clearance So No Need For A BG Check. Interview Went Perfect, They Said I Should Hear From Them With A Date For Medical And Anything Else Or Possibly A START Date. Has Anyone Else Gotten A START Date?

Btw I Spoke To An Alexandria Officer And He Said They Were Top Sh*t With Equipment And Training. Anyone Heard Anything Else?
Good Luck Guys.

[COASTIE01]

What is PFPA?

[JANGCO]

Pentegon Force Protection Agency

[BigO1124]

Just waiting for the phone call with the start date.

[JANGCO]

What Did The Fitness Test Consist Of?

[COASTIE01]

seems like kind of a boring job. any perks?

[JANGCO]

I've Done My Time On The Street, Its My Turn To Sit Back And Chill GET FAT AND PAID. But Also A Good Way To Get Your Foot In The Fed System. Its Not What You Can Do For The Job But What The Job Can Do For You. :D

[PPDMO373]

seems like kind of a boring job. any perks?

Yeah....the highest paid uniformed Federal LEO Agency.....

They start at btwn $45,193 - $50,739 (which is higher than Fairfax or Arlington Counties) and top out at $81,383 after 4-5 years......for basic Officer. And yes folks, that is base salary......

They have motorized, bicycle, and motorcycle patrols (New BMW Motorcycles), Emergency Response Team, K-9, Protective Service Unit, Criminal Investigations, Training Branch, Evidence and Court Liaison, and Recruiting Branch as jobs you can get into once you do your time inside.....


http://www.pfpa.mil/

[orlandofed5-0]

They have motorized, bicycle, and motorcycle patrols (New BMW Motorcycles), Emergency Response Team, K-9, Protective Service Unit, Criminal Investigations, Training Branch, Evidence and Court Liaison, and Recruiting Branch as jobs you can get into once you do your time inside.....

Special units are very hard to get into if your not connected. PFPA has some of the worst politics of any agency.

[efe1979]

What Did The Fitness Test Consist Of?


Bench Press(one rep on a weight machine, not free weights)
Illinois Agility Run
Sit and Reach Test
1.5 mile run
Body fat % test

go to http://www.fletc.gov/ptd/PEB-1%20web.htm and click on your age group, you have to score a minimum of 25 on each test

[BigO1124]

The Body Fat is just an assessment and does not disqualify you as an applicant if you fail. If you fail any event of the Fitness test, you have to re-apply.

[JANGCO]

Hey guys I'm feeling kind of warm and fuzzy now, just got an offer from PFPA :D . But I got to finish my medical, drug, fitness test and background non of which I'm worried about.

[BigO1124]

Congrats man. It'll take a little while to get through the remaining steps but they are easy.

[JANGCO]

hey did you get your start date yet?

[LeeRoy]

But Also A Good Way To Get Your Foot In The Fed System. Its Not What You Can Do For The Job But What The Job Can Do For You. :D

Keep in mind while it is a "Foot in the door" to being paid by the G the PFPA is not on the federal law enforcement retirement system (sometimes referred to as 6(c) or a covered position). Covered positions require you to be under 37 years of age when hired and have a mandatory retirement of 57. Covered positions have an enhanced retirement. A non covered position such as PFPA, FPS, VA police, or CBP has the same retirement as a clerk in IRS. Covered agencies are almost all investigative (FBI, DEA, etc) except for a few uniformed like Capitol Police, USSS UD, US Park Police, Border Patrol, BoP and I think Supreme Court Police.

[BigO1124]

Negative Jang.

[JANGCO]

Hey leeroy good to see a fellow EOD TECH [U]on the board. Maybe we could pop a few caps some day.

[BigO1124]

Has anyone heard anything from the PFPA lately?

[JANGCO]

I got a call today to schedule my medical screening and drug test.

[BigO1124]

I begin May 1st gentlemen and ladies. Anyone else going to attend the May 15th FLETC class?

[JANGCO]

:) Congrats brother, I still have 2 phases to go so hope to see you there soon. How long is FLETC ?

[JANGCO]

:) Congrats brother, how long does FLETC class go for ?

[BigO1124]

Thanks Jang. To my knowledge it is a 12 week course.

[efe1979]

congrats. they finally submitted my paperwork to OPM last week, now i'm just waiting for the call.

has anybody's personal references been contacted during the background investigation? just curious

[bronxitalian35]

hey guys, I've been medically cleared to take the PFT as of May 26th.Waiting to recieve a call to take the test.Congrats Big O, did they give you any info when you took the test? How often do they start classes at FLETC?This should be the last phase for me.Are all you guys headed for Raven Rock? :)

[bronxitalian35]

congrats. they finally submitted my paperwork to OPM last week, now i'm just waiting for the call.

has anybody's personal references been contacted during the background investigation? just curious
My BC officer told me that since mine was done w/ TSA, their was no need to do a secondary investigation, so as of now none of my references have been called.But as I submitted my paperwork I called my X-wife and my friends from NY just in case.

[JANGCO]

Congrats bro. Me and you are in the same boat, waiting for them to call me for the physical agility, hope its soon.

[bronxitalian35]

I hear ya!! I just hope we don't have to wait another 12 weeks for the next class....that would suck!! :mad: I wonder how often classes run??

[bronxitalian35]

BTW guys, I did a litle research on RR and apparently their doing some major construction and rennovations on the place.I saw it outlined on the 2006/07 Defense budget online.RR is one of the oldest facilities, built in the 50's around the time of the cold war. :)

[efe1979]

My contact from Human resources called me over a month ago

[bronxitalian35]

You passed the PFT? Wow and still no start date? :confused: I got a promotion to checkpoint supervisor w/ TSA recently and e-mailed WHS w/ the SF-52 attached about 2wks ago and got no response.(SF-52 is a notice of personnel action.)I just wanted to update them on my information.PFPA is still my top priority.I don't know why WHS didn't respond... :confused: !My POC was Leonta Young.

[bronxitalian35]

Anyone hear from the PFPA yet?

[crowbar]

I have been waiting since April 1st. I had my interview got recomended on the certificate and still nothing. I dont understand? I am still active on the web site too. I called them like 5 times and no one will even tell me anything.

[bronxitalian35]

what's the website where you can look up your application status?

[crowbar]

http://hrd.whs.mil/

[bronxitalian35]

Thanx crow, let ya know if I hear anything... ;)

[crowbar]

No problem. If you could, please let me know what it says your status is so I can see if I am still in the running. Thanks bro.

[bronxitalian35]

My status says: Certificate Issued-Referred NonComp Multi Grade/05. I've been medically cleared to take the PFT as of May 26th. The e-mail sent to me after the conditional offer was issued stated that I would have to wait 3wks after the medical exam was complete to be contacted for the PFT. That puts me atjust about 2 now. I'm gonna wait another wk and then start calling. I think we're still in it because they opened another announcement for Police Officer recently(closed the 1st.), which leads me to believe me they're still recruiting. Also if you look on the HRSC web site under opportunities, the PFPA is hiring for alot of other positions like Security Specialist/ Hazmat Specialist/Protection Svc Mngr.(Spec. Ops.). This also leads me to believe they're in expansion mode..(cool!)
Also if you look under the same opportunities, WHS is hiring like mad for HR people, which leads me to beileve they're short handed as well.

Believe me I'm squirming like a worm under a magnifying glass on a summer day in Vegas (109 deg.) waiting for that phone to ring and I'm sure you are too. Guess for now we'll just have to bite the bullet and wait. Like I said, I'll let you know if I hear and I hope you'll do the same!! ;) We're almost there!! :D

[crowbar]

I want/need this job. I hope I hear from them soon.

[efe1979]

I just checked my status

[bronxitalian35]

I just checked my status(didn't even know we could do that) it says
"Selection Complete Forwarded to DEU". they called my 6 weeks ago to tell me my clearance was granted, but still no start date, hopefully will get the call soon, been in the process since September.
so you've take the PFT and everything? Not to get personal, but was there a problem with your BC? September... :eek: yikes!!

[efe1979]

yeah, i took the pft in january.

[bronxitalian35]

ahhh I see...this waiting is driving me nuts...lol

[crowbar]

All mine says is "Certificate Issued Forwarded to DEU". When I call them and e-mail them they tell me "Currently tentative job offers for vacancy for the announcment i interviewed for are on hold at the reques of PFPA management. No selectees have been contacted at this time". I dont know what to think. Woe is me. Any way, do you remember the PFT standards? I am sure i can pass and I have seen the FLETC standards but have no idea what to expect in DC?

[efe1979]

go to http://www.fletc.gov/training/programs/physical-techniques-division/requirement-documents/physical-efficiency-battery-peb.html/ and click on your age group, you have to score at least a 25 on all the events except for body fat %, that is only an assessment
who did you email or call to get that answer?

[bronxitalian35]

:eek: ugh on hold!! That's weird, then why did they have another announcement for officer the last week of May?I wouldn't be surprised if they were re-evaluating staffing levels.

[crowbar]

Thanks for the info. That email is listed below.

Beverly.Butler@whs.mil

[crowbar]

I have never done the Illinios Agility Run. How hard was that to pass?

[efe1979]

the people who got an tentative offer and passed every step are guaranteed a spot right?

[bronxitalian35]

My POC is Leonta young also...personally I think they're way backed up..WHS is hiring alot of HR specialists and supervisors.I'm hoping I'm wrong.

[crowbar]

Today I spoke with Lt. Brusuayno. He told me that I was selected at my interview and I will be moving on with the next step. Now the bad news! Bronx you were right! He told me that they only have 17 seats for the next academy and that will be it until October 1st, when they get budget, so everything is on hold,including me. I was also informed that there 75 lucky people in line, he did not say if that included the 17 in the next class. I have a friend who works in D.C. for PFPA and he tells me that some classes for PFPA are as big 50. So, maybe it wont be too long of a wait. My outlook is that it is a GRRRREAT career and it is worth the wait.
Since we are here I have a few questions. Did you take the PEB at the pentagon gym? If so, how many laps was the 1.5 on the suspended track? Was the sit and reach box the kind that hangs over your shins? Was the agility one row of cones or was it 3 rows with the zig zag in the middle? I am confidant I can meet the standards, just want to be as prepared as possible.
Also, can you tell me how long the TS clearence takes. When i was in the Army I only had a S? Thanks for all the help guys!

[bronxitalian35]

It pays to do follow up calls, that's for sure. Hopefully I'll be taking my PFT in the next week, I'm saying my prayers.Just be polite, try not to be annoying.While Leonta says the start dates are on hold as per management, There's no reason I can't make sure I've met all my requirements and still complete the process on my end in a timely fashion. :)

[efe1979]

About the 17 seats for the next academy, did he say those people were notified yet?

[crowbar]

They didn't specify who was going to the academy. Pretty much all I know is that its not me. Efe you sound like you have quite a head start. You should give them a call and check. If you do find anything out please keep us updated. I am sure you will at least be in one of the first classes of the new fiscal year. Thanks for the info too.

[bronxitalian35]

The bottom line is this organization is in expansion mode!! If we don't get in the next class, then the next, or the next. The HRSC website has multiple specialty positions available for PFPA so that in turn makes the entry level positions available. If the last announcement for officer closed on the 1st of June, then there still hiring. It's just a matter of time. ;)

[PAnarcagent]

Yeah....the highest paid uniformed Federal LEO Agency.....

They start at btwn $45,193 - $50,739 (which is higher than Fairfax or Arlington Counties) and top out at $81,383 after 4-5 years......for basic Officer. And yes folks, that is base salary......

They have motorized, bicycle, and motorcycle patrols (New BMW Motorcycles), Emergency Response Team, K-9, Protective Service Unit, Criminal Investigations, Training Branch, Evidence and Court Liaison, and Recruiting Branch as jobs you can get into once you do your time inside.....


http://www.pfpa.mil/

The top out pay you mentioned would be reachable after 30 years, not 4-5. It's good money. Don't get me wrong. But you won't be making $80K after 5 years unless you are hired as a captain or something. They offered me an AD-7 position, which would be about $50K per year to start and about $60K after 5 years on the job. Personally, I'd be very happy with that, but I don't want anyone to think that they'd be making $80k after 5 years as a "Private" (AD-5, AD-6, or AD-7 pay grades).

[crowbar]

I am wondering if (for the RR applicants) the pentagon is going to put some more effort into getting some of us started because of the N. Korea threat. I dont think it would be a bad idea.

[FedCop]

I'm in the hiring process now, but from what I have been told, the top out pay you mentioned would be reachable after 30 years, not 4-5. It's good money. Don't get me wrong. But you won't be making $80K after 5 years unless you are hired as a captain or something. They offered me an AD-7 position, which would be about $50K per year to start and about $60K after 5 years on the job. Personally, I'd be very happy with that, but I don't want anyone to think that they'd be making $80k after 5 years as a "Private" (AD-5, AD-6, or AD-7 pay grades).

You said it first. I was about to correct that bad info. The is however a bunch of OT to be had, so if you are willing to put the hours in, then you can make good money.

FYI, with all the hiring for CBP, they have stopped running the Mixed Basic Police Training Program at Artesia, NM and now Glynco is overloaded with the all the MBPTP students. For those of you going to RR, you are making out, you get the same pay as the metro DC folks, but the cost of living is much cheaper! I am not sure how the got away with that, but lucky you. PFPA is insanely political, way too many chiefs, way too many indians, and not enough to do.

[bronxitalian35]

That's okay, right now I'm a checkpoint supervisor w/ TSA.I know about too political,...ect,...
BTW I took my PFT today. Did real well!! So hopefully I'm that much closer.For me that was the last step that I know of. I'm really hoping to get in the next class....I don't even know when that'll be??

[PPDMO373]

I'm in the hiring process now, but from what I have been told, the top out pay you mentioned would be reachable after 30 years, not 4-5. It's good money. Don't get me wrong. But you won't be making $80K after 5 years unless you are hired as a captain or something. They offered me an AD-7 position, which would be about $50K per year to start and about $60K after 5 years on the job. Personally, I'd be very happy with that, but I don't want anyone to think that they'd be making $80k after 5 years as a "Private" (AD-5, AD-6, or AD-7 pay grades).


Ummm....you need to get better info.....

Most of those guys are making btwn 50-80K a year due to OT and other requirements.

There are some slugs there that will only work the 40 hour week.....and do no more unless made to.

My buddy is a SGT there.....and I just talked to him today...at the Pentagon....when I was out screwing around.....

[bronxitalian35]

With the delays I hope we don't have to re-apply. I heard somewhere for federal LE if your not hired within a year's time, you have to re-submit your info and go through the process again...I applied in Nov./ Dec. of last yr., interviewed in Feb., cond. offer in March.. :confused: (dunno)

[PPDMO373]

With the delays I hope we don't have to re-apply. I heard somewhere for federal LE if your not hired within a year's time, you have to re-submit your info and go through the process again...I applied in Nov./ Dec. of last yr., interviewed in Feb., cond. offer in March.. :confused: (dunno)

Not sure about what they do.....but usually Most Fed Agencies will just make you update your info for them before you can continue.....

[bronxitalian35]

Not sure about what they do.....but usually Most Fed Agencies will just make you update your info for them before you can continue.....
Thanks :) ....if I hear anything more I'll let you guys know.. :)

[efe1979]

With the delays I hope we don't have to re-apply. I heard somewhere for federal LE if your not hired within a year's time, you have to re-submit your info and go through the process again...I applied in Nov./ Dec. of last yr., interviewed in Feb., cond. offer in March.. :confused: (dunno)



They emailed me a few weeks ago to say that I had to re-date and re-sign a few documents, that's about it.

[JANGCO]

Hey Guys, I've been out of the loop for a while. last I heard of them they said I had to submitt some info to clear my medical. I submitted the info I'm still waiting. Any good news on your ends.

[bronxitalian35]

Well, I've taken my PFT last Tues. The person who arrainged the test forwarded the info to HR the next day.I called HR this mornring and left a message on voice mail to verify they got the info and if there was any developments on my application process. Probably their 100th call for the same thing today...lol.As far as I know I've met all my requirements on my end, now it's wait and see when the next class starts...??? It is getting close to the end of the fiscal yr. so I don't know weather I'll get in before Sept.-Oct. WHS is kinda tight lipped on it so...still waiting... :confused:

[crowbar]

I have not heard anything official since April! Is there anybody else under JOA PFP066997 ? If so, when was the last time you spoke with anyone?

[efe1979]

Anybody know if we also get locality pay? I know all fed employees on GS scale do, but since we are on AD scale I'm not sure if we do. If so, that is another 17.50%.

[efe1979]

I have not heard anything official since April! Is there anybody else under JOA PFP066997 ? If so, when was the last time you spoke with anyone?

What is the significance of JOA number?

[crowbar]

Each time they advertise for a job number it is differant, it is the number that appears on your certificate. The only people that would be on a job number/certificate are the people that applied around the same time. So, if there is somebody on the same job number as me that is further along in the process I would pretty much know that I 'll have better luck next time.

[crowbar]

my understanding is that the localaty pay is added in to the 45,193 starting salary, atleast that is what my recruiter told me

[boz445504]

I have not heard anything official since April! Is there anybody else under JOA PFP066997 ? If so, when was the last time you spoke with anyone?


I'am on the sameone. Have not heard anything since April. :confused: :confused:
Don't know what is going on. The said that they would contact me. I know I am still in the process when I check whs.mil. Only time will tell.

[bronxitalian35]

I'm in the same group and I took the PFT almost 2wks ago... :)

[crowbar]

BOZ, when was your interview?

[boz445504]

It at the end of April. Can't remember off the top of my head what the day was. I think it was at the end of the month.

[crowbar]

Mine was on April 1st. I have yet to hear anything official as well.

[PAnarcagent]

Ummm....you need to get better info.....

Most of those guys are making btwn 50-80K a year due to OT and other requirements.

There are some slugs there that will only work the 40 hour week.....and do no more unless made to.

My buddy is a SGT there.....and I just talked to him today...at the Pentagon....when I was out screwing around.....


I'm looking at the pay scale now, and base pay and locality combined will only pay an AD-7 about $60K after 5 years on the job. Top out pay for an AD-7 is $80K after THIRTY YEARS!! The OP made no mention of OT, and at Raven Rock, there is hardly any to be had. At the reservation, the guys I know there are making $80-90, but that is with a ton of overtime. Raven Rock doesn't have anywhere near the OT as the reservation though. So, if you expect to make that much money, you had better go to Arlington, because it isn't gonna happen in PA, at least not the way things are being run now. Really, it is almost like they are two different departments, when you compare the RR site with Arlington. RR is all physical security, whereas Arlington actually does real police work. RR has almost zero OT, and it was described as being "almost unlimited" at Arlington. Arlington has special units. RR does not. PFPA covers the entire Arlington site, but only part of RR (until the MP's pull out). There are many other differences. My suggestion is to do your homework before applying, so you know for sure what you are getting into. I know lot of guys who applied to both places thinking that they were the same. They couldn't have been more wrong.

[crowbar]

You are hard pressed to find a LE agency in PA that starts even close to what PPD is making in base pay. So for me, even if OT is a big fat zero, I will still be better off than I am now. I have to work a decent amount of OT now to make what PPD starts at. I enjoy spending time with my wife and kids anyway so no OT would be a nice change for me. Plus only working 14 days a month, I'm all for it. I Haven't talked to my buddy in DC in a while, so I am sure how it works, but if you can get on nights that's an additional 10% in its self plus 25% on Sundays. On top of that, the way the schedule is you automatically work 4 hours OT each pay period, its not a lot but at least it will take some of the hurt off of paying for benefits. Between differentials and holidays, I bet you make close to 60 K without even trying.

[PPDMO373]

I'm looking at the pay scale now, and base pay and locality combined will only pay an AD-7 about $60K after 5 years on the job. Top out pay for an AD-7 is $80K after THIRTY YEARS!! The OP made no mention of OT, and at Raven Rock, there is hardly any to be had. At the reservation, the guys I know there are making $80-90, but that is with a ton of overtime. Raven Rock doesn't have anywhere near the OT as the reservation though. So, if you expect to make that much money, you had better go to Arlington, because it isn't gonna happen in PA, at least not the way things are being run now. Really, it is almost like they are two different departments, when you compare the RR site with Arlington. RR is all physical security, whereas Arlington actually does real police work. RR has almost zero OT, and it was described as being "almost unlimited" at Arlington. Arlington has special units. RR does not. PFPA covers the entire Arlington site, but only part of RR (until the MP's pull out). There are many other differences. My suggestion is to do your homework before applying, so you know for sure what you are getting into. I know lot of guys who applied to both places thinking that they were the same. They couldn't have been more wrong.

If you read my post, you will see that I was talking about the actual Pentagon....not Rock Raven...... :rolleyes:

I know nothing about that place other than what my buddies that work at the Pentagon tell me......

[crowbar]

I wasnt trying to up set you, i was just pretty much saying either way it is a prett sweet gig.

[crowbar]

oops, im a looser

[PPDMO373]

I wasnt trying to up set you, i was just pretty much saying either way it is a prett sweet gig.

Wasn't talking to you......talking to the other dude..... :)

[bronxitalian35]

I'm looking at the pay scale now, and base pay and locality combined will only pay an AD-7 about $60K after 5 years on the job. Top out pay for an AD-7 is $80K after THIRTY YEARS!! The OP made no mention of OT, and at Raven Rock, there is hardly any to be had. At the reservation, the guys I know there are making $80-90, but that is with a ton of overtime. Raven Rock doesn't have anywhere near the OT as the reservation though. So, if you expect to make that much money, you had better go to Arlington, because it isn't gonna happen in PA, at least not the way things are being run now. Really, it is almost like they are two different departments, when you compare the RR site with Arlington. RR is all physical security, whereas Arlington actually does real police work. RR has almost zero OT, and it was described as being "almost unlimited" at Arlington. Arlington has special units. RR does not. PFPA covers the entire Arlington site, but only part of RR (until the MP's pull out). There are many other differences. My suggestion is to do your homework before applying, so you know for sure what you are getting into. I know lot of guys who applied to both places thinking that they were the same. They couldn't have been more wrong.


Where did you look your info up? Can you provide a link?I'd like to look into some of that for myself...Thnkx

[PAnarcagent]

You are hard pressed to find a LE agency in PA that starts even close to what PPD is making in base pay. So for me, even if OT is a big fat zero, I will still be better off than I am now. I have to work a decent amount of OT now to make what PPD starts at. I enjoy spending time with my wife and kids anyway so no OT would be a nice change for me. Plus only working 14 days a month, I'm all for it. I Haven't talked to my buddy in DC in a while, so I am sure how it works, but if you can get on nights that's an additional 10% in its self plus 25% on Sundays. On top of that, the way the schedule is you automatically work 4 hours OT each pay period, its not a lot but at least it will take some of the hurt off of paying for benefits. Between differentials and holidays, I bet you make close to 60 K without even trying.


"They start at btwn $45,193 - $50,739 (which is higher than Fairfax or Arlington Counties) and top out at $81,383 after 4-5 years......for basic Officer. And yes folks, that is base salary......".

It is not base salary. It would take you THIRTY YEARS to get to that salary as an AD-7 (highest basic officer rank they have), not 4-5 years.

[PAnarcagent]

If you read my post, you will see that I was talking about the actual Pentagon....not Rock Raven...... :rolleyes:

I know nothing about that place other than what my buddies that work at the Pentagon tell me......

Yes, I see that, but others on the board have stated that they have applied for the PA facility, so my post was primarily for their benefit, since many people mistakenly assume the PPD is the same, operationally, at both locations, which it certainly isn't.

Also, even for the Reservation, your info is still not accurate, because you are not going to top out at $81K after 4-5 years on the job, base salary, as you stated. I would agree with you if you had stated that you could make that kind of money in 4-5 years, in DC, and if you worked a lot of OT. That would be accurate. The "topping out" and "base salary" parts of your post is what turns otherwise good info into bad info.

[PPDMO373]

Yes, I see that, but others on the board have stated that they have applied for the PA facility, so my post was primarily for their benefit, since many people mistakenly assume the PPD is the same, operationally, at both locations, which it certainly isn't.

Also, even for the Reservation, your info is still not accurate, because you are not going to top out at $81K after 4-5 years on the job, base salary, as you stated. I would agree with you if you had stated that you could make that kind of money in 4-5 years, in DC, and if you worked a lot of OT. That would be accurate. The "topping out" and "base salary" parts of your post is what turns otherwise good info into bad info.


Once again, all the info I put out came from guys that are working there....including their supervisor who is one of my Army buddies....

Last time I checked, YOU DON'T WORK FOR THEM!! :rolleyes:

You want me to go back out there again and ask just for you.....?? I can....as it's only one Metro stop away from where I live....and it's where we get fuel for our vehicles (The Navy Exchange Citgo Station in the Pentagon Annex area) due to them having a E-85 pump there........

[bronxitalian35]

Well this verbal exchange is enlighteneing to say the least,I'm not looking to make 80k after 4-5 years anyway. Also right now I'm working as a checkpoint supervisor for TSA in Las Vegas, so this would be a notch or two up from what I'm doing now(as far as being armed, going to train in Glenco, ect.), which is fine.I'm 37yrs. old, have a wife and 2 kids, looking to relocate back east, so there are many aspects of this job that fit the bill.
I would like to get as much insight on the job as I can, being on the other side of the country, there's only so much info I can attain. I have met all the requirements on my end as far as PFT, BC, medical, ect. I just want to make the next cut as far as classes go.So if anyone can provide inside info(aka..the Army buddy), that's greatly appreciated.Also if there are any links you could provide online, that would help too.
I fell across a DOD budget report for '06-'07, which indicated their going to renovate RR, and indicated that PFPA is expanding.
As far as pay goes, I'm making about 43k right now w/ TSA and work at ton of OT, which pushes me a bit higher.So to me , this is a great opportunity, especially because the cost of living is starting to go up in Vegas,which is why I left NY to come here in the first place. :)

[crowbar]

Does any body have any new info? Just thought i'd ask!

[bronxitalian35]

Does any body have any new info? Just thought i'd ask!According to WHS, the oganization is in the process of evaluating when to announce the next start dates...I have been told I'll be in that next group. I'll let you guys know if I hear anything... :)

[PAnarcagent]

Once again, all the info I put out came from guys that are working there....including their supervisor who is one of my Army buddies....

Last time I checked, YOU DON'T WORK FOR THEM!! :rolleyes:

You want me to go back out there again and ask just for you.....?? I can....as it's only one Metro stop away from where I live....and it's where we get fuel for our vehicles (The Navy Exchange Citgo Station in the Pentagon Annex area) due to them having a E-85 pump there........


Thanks for the offer, but no, I'm not asking you to ask your buddies anything. No, I do NOT work for them, but I'm looking at their pay scale now, and that pay scale pretty much tells me what I need to know.

If anyone wants / needs a copy, PM me and I'll see to it you get one, unless, that is, I get bombarded with about 1000 requests or something like that. The basic info is what I have already posted in the forum, though, so that should give you some idea of what you'd be making.

[ck9960]

Hey guys first time posting on here. I finally found a few other guys with the same dilemma as myself. Well here is my story, I originally applied for this position back in June of 2005 got a call sometime in July to come in for an interview. Went for the interview in August, all went well. I received a call from Leonta Young after that to set up for the Urinalysis, medical exam, background check, and physical fitness test. Also I had to fax some paper work to the department giving them the go ahead to do medical investigation and background investigation. Went for the urinalysis and then went to the medical exam. At the medical exam they found that my eyes were worse than 20/200 uncorrected. Considerably worse! two options..give up on the job or go for lasik. To make a long story short I had the operation in December of 2005, it was a success, but they needed to clear me of any complications. So I had to wait 3 months after the surgery for them to medically clear me for arduous duty. This takes me up to March 2006, I get a call in April to set a date and time for the physical fitness test. I went May 10th and passed all 4 sections. Now i thought soon after this I would be getting a call but it's mid July and I'm still waiting. Im still optimistic and you guys waiting are keeping my hopes up knowing now that I'm not the only one waiting. So if anybody gets a call or has any updated info on this topic PLEASE post because I'm just as anxious as you are. Thanks again guys Carl TSO EWR ~blue skies :cool:

[crowbar]

Hey Bro, welcome to the forum! Keep your head up. You have made it a lot further than I have and I still have hope.

[bronxitalian35]

Hey guys first time posting on here. I finally found a few other guys with the same dilemma as myself. Well here is my story, I originally applied for this position back in June of 2005 got a call sometime in July to come in for an interview. Went for the interview in August, all went well. I received a call from Leonta Young after that to set up for the Urinalysis, medical exam, background check, and physical fitness test. Also I had to fax some paper work to the department giving them the go ahead to do medical investigation and background investigation. Went for the urinalysis and then went to the medical exam. At the medical exam they found that my eyes were worse than 20/200 uncorrected. Considerably worse! two options..give up on the job or go for lasik. To make a long story short I had the operation in December of 2005, it was a success, but they needed to clear me of any complications. So I had to wait 3 months after the surgery for them to medically clear me for arduous duty. This takes me up to March 2006, I get a call in April to set a date and time for the physical fitness test. I went May 10th and passed all 4 sections. Now i thought soon after this I would be getting a call but it's mid July and I'm still waiting. Im still optimistic and you guys waiting are keeping my hopes up knowing now that I'm not the only one waiting. So if anybody gets a call or has any updated info on this topic PLEASE post because I'm just as anxious as you are. Thanks again guys Carl TSO EWR ~blue skies :cool:

Welcome!! And good luck!!....I saw some new positions open up on the HRSC website.Spvy Police Officer was one of them.Some others were admin jobs like Budget Analyst and IT specialist.Most of the positions were open for RR. This seems encouraging because of the mere fact that it shows their still expanding and still recruiting.So it's really just a matter of time before they get us in. :)

[ck9960]

Anything new guys? I saw that they were hiring for various other positions. Nothing here.

[crowbar]

Nothing new my way! I called the other day and spoke with LT. Brusuano. Got the same awnser "if you dont hear anything by the end of October than worry. They are just playing the budget game. We will have our day.

[bronxitalian35]

Nothing new my way! I called the other day and spoke with LT. Brusuano. Got the same awnser "if you dont hear anything by the end of October than worry. They are just playing the budget game. We will have our day.
He said they were playing the budget game? OY! I haven't heard anything either. 2 days ago I left a voice msg. on Leonta's VM....Nada, no call back. :rolleyes:

[efe1979]

I emailed Ms. Leonta Young about a week ago and she responded today, saying "The required concurrence/approval is still pending from the agency
(PFPA)......I hope to provide you with a start date soon." we just gotta be patient, the day will come.

[bronxitalian35]

that's great news, sounds positive. I am very excited about this opportunity...also very anxious :p

[crowbar]

Whats the latest news guys? I called Leonta Young and she wouldent tell my anything and I cant get ahold of anyone else.

[bronxitalian35]

Apparently their "negotiating FLETC seats".The class we'll be taking in Glynco is a UPTP(Uniformed Police Training Program).This is used by a few other agencies as well. Each class will probably be intergrated, so I guess their determining how many from each group will attend.that's as far as I got. (See: "FLETC question" post) What exactly did Leonta tell you?

[crowbar]

She was kind of short with me. She just said "nothing has changed." If I get a call in October I will feel like I hit the lottery.

[bronxitalian35]

She was kind of short with me. She just said "nothing has changed." If I get a call in October I will feel like I hit the lottery.
As the only POC for us, she's probably tired of all the calls...lol.

[crowbar]

Yeah, she is isn't she. I bet she gets ten calls a day with the same questions. I just wish I could know for sure.

[efe1979]

Anyone got any new info?

[bronxitalian35]

I got some info on this board that the next UPTP is starting the 28th of Aug. I just placed a few calls, haven't got any back yet.

[bronxitalian35]

Well, my fellow Police Officer hopefuls with the PFPA, I'm sorry to report we are still in a holding pattern as of today,Wed. Aug.16th due to fiscal year end and budget issues as per Ms. Finch @ PFPA manpower div.It seems the heirarchy still has not given her or WHS the go ahead to hire more Police Officers. When I asked her if this was standard procedure she told me the organization is only 2yrs old, and their kinda playing it by hear right now. She did tell me that she has a list of hopefulls who have completed the process and are ready to go in the next group and that I was on that list. So it will have to be good enough for now as she said I can call her periodically with any questions. Exuse me if I use horse metaphors but I'm chomping at the bit right now and I'm getting jittery at the starting gate!!I'll post anything new I hear and I hope you guys will do the same.... ;)

[crowbar]

Do you have a phone number or email for her?

[bronxitalian35]

PFPA manpower div. Phone #is 703-693-7593 .Not sure of the extension # for Ms. Finch, but the automated voice message asks if you want her, and what ext. to dial. Let me know what you get please... :)

[efe1979]

So she did say that the people on her list are definitely going to get a start date eventually?

[bronxitalian35]

I'm guessing they give her a # and she brings that many in. She said it could be 10, it could be 50, it could be 1.But right now it seems to be a budget issue. She said their waiting for more money... :rolleyes:

[ck9960]

Not sure if any of you guys already read this or not, figured i'd post just in case you havent and wanted some relevant reading material.

www.dod.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2006/budget_justification/pdfs/dwcf/DoD_Revolving_Fund.pdf#search=%222007%20budget%20p fpa%22 (http://www.dod.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2006/budget_justification/pdfs/dwcf/DoD_Revolving_Fund.pdf#search=%222007%20budget%20p fpa%22)


Thanks again guys for keeping me informed. :)

[bronxitalian35]

Yes, I have read that, very encouraging. I have scoured the internet for all the info I can find on the PFPA.It doesn't help living on the other side of the country.....can't wait!! :D

[soontobeacop]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!

[ck9960]

That is GREAT news! Ive been in the process for over a year myself and waiting for the call. Two questions, are you going to be in Virginia or Pennsylvania? and who called you? Was it WHS or somebody else? Thanks ~ Carl

[bronxitalian35]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!Congrats, good for you ! Hopefully that means more calls will come.So that means you'd be starting clases @FLETC in Dec.?How many weeks of in-breif to you get?

[efe1979]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!


Congratulations! what is your timeline? I have been in the process since last October and I'm just waiting for a start date.

[soontobeacop]

I will be in DC at the Pentagon.... The call came from a lady with WHS, not sure on the name...... The FLETC start date has not been set, hopefully soon.

[bronxitalian35]

Anyone hear anything new??It's starting to seem like an imaginary job application...lol.

[ck9960]

Nothing new here on my end either. When I hear anything I'll be sure to post.

[bronxitalian35]

thanks, bro and I'll do the same. I made some phone calls and haven't gotten any responses back yet.

[bronxitalian35]

I just got off the phone with Teresa Payton @ the PFPA manpower div. She explained to me that they were sending letters out to all applicants in the process asking us to maintain our intrests in the position.Apparently they in the process of making a list of who has been in the process the longest and working down from there. The current issues are 2 fold. 1.Determining how many to bring in for the next group. 2.Lobbying for FLETC seats. I asked her if maybe they would know by Oct., Nov. Her response was she didn't even want to speculate that soon (sheesh!).I also asked her if maybe they were cutting the positons, and she said NO, and reiterated that they want us to maintain our intrest in the position. I am disapointed to say the least. But I guess this gives me and answer for the immediate future.I saw announcements for FBI police, and SSUD, so in the meantime it might not hurt to have alternative options . :rolleyes: I have been done with my process since June....how bout' you guys?

[SinCity007]

Keep in mind while it is a "Foot in the door" to being paid by the G the PFPA is not on the federal law enforcement retirement system (sometimes referred to as 6(c) or a covered position). Covered positions require you to be under 37 years of age when hired and have a mandatory retirement of 57. Covered positions have an enhanced retirement. A non covered position such as PFPA, FPS, VA police, or CBP has the same retirement as a clerk in IRS. Covered agencies are almost all investigative (FBI, DEA, etc) except for a few uniformed like Capitol Police, USSS UD, US Park Police, Border Patrol, BoP and I think Supreme Court Police.
ok, LeeRoy. No PFPA does not have 6(c) retirement yet, but do you know how much retirement the government gives it's 6(c) officers and agents compared to the non covered? 10% more, that's it. oh. the covered guys are forced to retire at age 57, no matter what (some waviers given). It takes most cover agents 3-5 years to match our base salary, if you know how to invest your overtime ($35,000 year usually), Us non covered guys are doing just fine. The average PPD officers makes at least $65,000 in his/her first year. And the officers in Operations only work 6 months out of a year. 2 days on / 2 days off- everyother weekend off (11.5 hours days)

[efe1979]

I just got off the phone with Teresa Payton @ the PFPA manpower div. She explained to me that they were sending letters out to all applicants in the process asking us to maintain our intrests in the position.Apparently they in the process of making a list of who has been in the process the longest and working down from there. The current issues are 2 fold. 1.Determining how many to bring in for the next group. 2.Lobbying for FLETC seats. I asked her if maybe they would know by Oct., Nov. Her response was she didn't even want to speculate that soon (sheesh!).I also asked her if maybe they were cutting the positons, and she said NO, and reiterated that they want us to maintain our intrest in the position. I am disapointed to say the least. But I guess this gives me and answer for the immediate future.I saw announcements for FBI police, and SSUD, so in the meantime it might not hurt to have alternative options . :rolleyes: I have been done with my process since June....how bout' you guys?



That's not terrible news, at least she said they are not cutting the positions. We just have to wait a little longer. I finished process back in May for DC.

[efe1979]

Hey bronx, did she say when they would be sending out the letters? I've been in the process since Sept. 05 so I hopefully I should get one soon. Thanks for getting the info for everyone.

[bronxitalian35]

Yes, she said they are sending out letters, but I believe she also said they would start from the folks that have been done with they're process the longest and work from there.

[pentagonpd1]

hey bronx, did mrs. young (poc) tell you what number are you on the list

[pentagonpd1]

Just to give you some info on myself. I applied for the RR position and I completed my final step which was the physical test in May. I have been waiting ever since then. The last I heard from the pfpa is that all the air marshals and border patrol agents are taken up all the FLETC seats and keep everyone on the forum on hold. Bronxitalian, you completed all the steps in the same time frame I did and I was curious to know if mrs. young told you your list number which tells you where you are on the waiting list. THIS MESSAGE GOES FOR ALL THE MEMBERS THAT COMPLETED ALL THE STEPS FOR THE PFPA.

[pentagonpd1]

That's not terrible news, at least she said they are not cutting the positions. We just have to wait a little longer. I finished process back in May for DC.

I'm just curious to know how long is the pfpa going to keep all of us waiting. Is it going to be 6 months or a couple of years.

[theconstipated1]

do PFPA have a cut off age? They are Federal are they not?

[pentagonpd1]

they are federal but I don't think there is an age limit.

[efe1979]

Just to give you some info on myself. I applied for the RR position and I completed my final step which was the physical test in May. I have been waiting ever since then. The last I heard from the pfpa is that all the air marshals and border patrol agents are taken up all the FLETC seats and keep everyone on the forum on hold. Bronxitalian, you completed all the steps in the same time frame I did and I was curious to know if mrs. young told you your list number which tells you where you are on the waiting list. THIS MESSAGE GOES FOR ALL THE MEMBERS THAT COMPLETED ALL THE STEPS FOR THE PFPA.


I don't know what number I am, I'm probably going to call them this friday.
I hope they don't make us wait more than a few months, if so i might have to apply to some local agencies.

here is my timeline:

August 05 -Applied online
October 05 - Panel interview
November 05 - medical/drug test
January 06 - PFT passed
May 06 - Secret clearance granted

[bronxitalian35]

hey bronx, did mrs. young (poc) tell you what number are you on the listShe didn't tell me what # on the list I was, but she did say I would be in the next group going in. :rolleyes: Ms. Finch @ the PFPA manpower div. said she was hesitant to speculate even Nov. So draw your own conclusions. She did say they would be sending letters to all applicants explaining the situtation. I've been done since June. I'm still running 5 days a week and waiting patiently. Working for TSA as a checkpoint sup.

[mmfed01]

I just wanted to thank all for the information posted here. I panel interviewed on Nov 26 of 05, was conditionally offered the job on Dec 21 and began the process in Feb of 06. I completed the physical agility test in May and have heard nothing since. Again, I appreciate the info and best of luck to all who get to move forward in process.

[pentagonpd1]

She didn't tell me what # on the list I was, but she did say I would be in the next group going in. :rolleyes: Ms. Finch @ the PFPA manpower div. said she was hesitant to speculate even Nov. So draw your own conclusions. She did say they would be sending letters to all applicants explaining the situtation. I've been done since June. I'm still running 5 days a week and waiting patiently. Working for TSA as a checkpoint sup.


Is Ms. Finch @ PFPA manpower div. different from ms. payton. If so may you tell me Ms. Finch's contact number.

[bronxitalian35]

No, same # as Ms. Payton, but just a different extension #.Any of you guys find out what # you are on the list? Is everyone here going to site R? Has anyone gotten this letter I'm being told about? It kinda makes sense when you say that the other organizations are taking precedence over this one as far as the FLETC seats go. Ms. Finch did say that when the seats become available, they have to bid on them. I am still very excited about this opportunity, and it also makes me realize my intrest in Federal LE in general.SSUD will PAY for your relocation, PFPA does not.My heart is still set on RR, but inthe meantime it wouldn't hurt to see what else is out there. :)

[pentagonpd1]

Nothing new my way! I called the other day and spoke with LT. Brusuano. Got the same awnser "if you dont hear anything by the end of October than worry. They are just playing the budget game. We will have our day.
It is almost the end of October and we have yet to receive anything. Should we start to worry now or what. Also are they still playing the budget game or are the waiting for available FLETC seats. :confused:

[bronxitalian35]

ms. finch says the issues are 2 fold, so your right on both counts.

[pentagonpd1]

Did everyone find out their list # which indicates where you are on the hiring list. If so, where are you on the list.

[mmfed01]

Is there one central list or a separate list for those of us going to DC and those going to RR?

[pentagonpd1]

Is there one central list or a separate list for those of us going to DC and those going to RR?
Good point, I really don't know.

[ck9960]

I'm going to Raven Rock, who else here is? I havent received anything about a list number. Has anyone? I tried calling Leonta Young yesterday but only got her voice mail. Please keep me informed.

[pentagonpd1]

I'm going to RR. Is anyone going to DC.

[bronxitalian35]

RR... ;) or bust...

[mmfed01]

I'm going to RR. Is anyone going to DC.


I'll raise you one for DC....

[bronxitalian35]

anyone call lately?

[pentagonpd1]

She didn't tell me what # on the list I was, but she did say I would be in the next group going in. :rolleyes: Ms. Finch @ the PFPA manpower div. said she was hesitant to speculate even Nov. So draw your own conclusions. She did say they would be sending letters to all applicants explaining the situtation. I've been done since June. I'm still running 5 days a week and waiting patiently. Working for TSA as a checkpoint sup.
If Ms. Finch was hesitant on a NOVEMBER class we are not even close to getting a call.

[bronxitalian35]

I figured as much, I'm thinking first of the new year or so...

[mmfed01]

I'm looking at the WHS Application Status page and wondering if the key is listed in chronological order? If not, and my status is Selection Complete Forwarded to DEU, where am I in the process?

[efe1979]

I'm looking at the WHS Application Status page and wondering if the key is listed in chronological order? If not, and my status is Selection Complete Forwarded to DEU, where am I in the process?


Mine says the same, it means we are done the administrative process.

[pentagonpd1]

I figured as much, I'm thinking first of the new year or so...
Bronxitalian, I would be very happy if we can get an affirm response from WHS that there will be a FLETC class sometime in the early new year but we have yet to get that response.

[mmfed01]

Mine says the same, it means we are done the administrative process.

I have a friend who got a call from Capitol police for a January class down in FLETC, most likely it is a mixed police class. anyone else know of any other mixed police classes starting down there, maybe the jan. one is the first for this new fiscal year.
I'm goin to DC.

i think our order is according to the JOA number, mine is PFP056874. it is from an August 2005 vacancy announcement.


My offer was made under PFP056730

[bronxitalian35]

055476... :)

[mmfed01]

If it were offered when I was in college, a minor in "applying for Federal Jobs that take forever" would have been helpful. Sounds more fun than my Soc minor anyways.. = )

[pentagonpd1]

05-5476....

[pentagonpd1]

did anyone find out their List #

[efe1979]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!



so did this really happen or what???????

[efe1979]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!



so did this really happen or what???????

[statepo]

Hi All, Just wanted to know some info. Can former vets that are now PFPA/PPD Officer open up a veterans affairs compensation claim and work aboard the agency without job/medical repercussions if issues don't affect job performance and physical fitness testing every year. Also, does anyone know what the medical standards are for the physical every year? Thanks All. Sorry, couldn't figure out how to new post.

[pentagonpd1]

Has anyone heard anything new.

[pentagonpd1]

I'm guessing nobody heard anything. But how long are we going to wait.

[pentagonpd1]

I have been in the process for almost a year now, and recieved my call yesterday... They explained that I should be starting sometime around Nov. The are offering me AD-7, step 3. I would leave for FLETC in Dec-Jan. I have heard rumors from an officer that works there that the new director is looking at a "take home" car program and they are getting thier own EOD team... Can't wait sound like this agency is up and comming !!!
do you know what number were you on the list.

[bronxitalian35]

Based on what Ms. Finch told me it sounds like we'll be waiting a few more months... :rolleyes:

[pentagonpd1]

Based on what Ms. Finch told me it sounds like we'll be waiting a few more months... :rolleyes:
based on what mrs. Finch told me it's going to take more than a few months. She said they hire according to personnel that is needed and the way its moving now it will take alot longer than a few months Bronxitialian.

I asked Mrs. Finch for a time frame and she refused to give me one. Accorrding to what she was telling me it can take a year before we get a call. I suggest you call her back and see what she tells you. It seems that every time I call I get a different story. First it was budget issues, then it was that they were trying to negotiate academy seats, and now they hire based on the manpower they need. WHAT IS GOING ON!!

[crowbar]

I have a good friend that works for PPD in D.C. and he tells me people are leaving ther left and right. He said people are going to the Air marshalls service. About seven people he could count in the last two months. He could be feeding me Poo, but he has no reason too. That being said, I think the slots are there to be filled. Not to sure about Site R.

[SinCity007]

I have been reading all the post. Before I type anything, I want everyone to know that I am not the hiring authority for my agency, nor do I know what PFPA is planning for hiring those who where interviewed the last 2 years. So take whatever I say with a grain of salt. I am going to state facts and facts only...Our training academy is FLETC, Glynco, GA. There are many agencies that utilize FLETC, and FLETC has a yearly schedule of classes for the Basic Police Training Program and a limit on seats for each class. Saying that, when an agency, such as PFPA has a budget (unlike other agencies, remember we are at WAR and money comes out of the Department of Defense Budget) they must use it wisely and make the funds stretch throughout the year. Many people were interviewed for the positions we have here, more people than positions so saying all that, please don't place your eggs in PFPA. Some of you guys will be offered this, great, fine job in due time. We need some Good new officers for both locations (RMCC & Pentagon). Patients is very hard to have...I know, but what other choise do you have??

Good Luck

[SinCity007]

I have a good friend that works for PPD in D.C. and he tells me people are leaving ther left and right. He said people are going to the Air marshalls service. About seven people he could count in the last two months. He could be feeding me Poo, but he has no reason too. That being said, I think the slots are there to be filled. Not to sure about Site R.
Yes we have have about 10 guys go to the Air Marshals, many more probably to come (that means openings for new hires!!) wouldn't you if they offered you a 25% raise on top of your base salary of $45,000-$50,000? I don't know of anyone that would turn down that kind of money...no matter what profession. The main objective is to retire and retire well, very well off.

[efe1979]

Yes we have have about 10 guys go to the Air Marshals, many more probably to come (that means openings for new hires!!) wouldn't you if they offered you a 25% raise on top of your base salary of $45,000-$50,000? I don't know of anyone that would turn down that kind of money...no matter what profession. The main objective is to retire and retire well, very well off.


Other than those who have left for the air marshals, have many others left in the past few months?

[bronxitalian35]

Thanks for the info Sin, greatly appreciated.BTW I don't see what the great shakes is about air marshalls, not to offend any of those who read this, but I work for TSA as a checkpoint sup right now, and those guys who sign in at the exit lane really dont have many good things to say about it.I mean, TSA in general really doesn't have much positive aspects to combat the negative, and i know all federal agencies have negative,but bouncing from city to city through all the time zones on top of it must be hell.... In the meantime my Federal service is adding up, so I'll just wait like the rest of us.There also are many other agencies hiring as well, so might as well put in for them too...(USSS,UD/FBI police/VA police...ect.)But PFPA is the one I really want... :)

[pentagonpd1]

did anyone get an email/letter from pfpa.

[mmfed01]

Yes, stating what was already suspected.....

[pentagonpd1]

Yes, stating what was already suspected.....
where are you in the process. When did you start and when was your final step.

[pentagonpd1]

did everyone get this email/letter or was it sent to the applicants that will possibly be getting a call soon. I completed my final step sometime in early May and that was the physical test.

[mmfed01]

where are you in the process. When did you start and when was your final step.

Cond. hired Dec 2005

Medical/Drug Feb 2006

BC & Physical agility complete May 2006

[pentagonpd1]

Cond. hired Dec 2005

Medical/Drug Feb 2006

BC & Physical agility complete May 2006
did you intially apply in Dec. 2005

[mmfed01]

did you intially apply in Dec. 2005


NO, back in August of 2005 I believe, Interviewed November 2005

[pentagonpd1]

NO, back in August of 2005 I believe, Interviewed November 2005
Did you apply for the one in PA or DC.

[mmfed01]

I applied for DC

[bronxitalian35]

Got my letter... :( ...I'm getting a feeling they're talkin' first of the year at the least.

[mmfed01]

Got my letter... :( ...I'm getting a feeling they're talkin' first of the year at the least.

Well, also the staffing needs I'm sure are different at both locations, so who knows what will open up when. I'm also fairly sure they'll give you some advance notice to get your affairs in order so ya never know....

[bronxitalian35]

I begin May 1st gentlemen and ladies. Anyone else going to attend the May 15th FLETC class?
This guy was given 2 wks. notice and he was in the last group that went to my knowledge.

[pentagonpd1]

Got my letter... :( ...I'm getting a feeling they're talkin' first of the year at the least.
first of the year sounds great. I just hope it's not longer than that.

[SinCity007]

Other than those who have left for the air marshals, have many others left in the past few months?
The estimated number I heard was 67, of those 11 to the Air Marshals, some got the experience they wanted and landed back home with small local PD's, terminations, retirements, etc...We have approximately 650-700 officers in PFPA (including RMCC). Its completely normal for people to leave for whatever reason. If you guys are looking for the excitement of a local PD then this is not the place. 85% of what we do is protection, fixed post work. We do have one of the areas larges speciality units, ERT, PSU (protective service unit), K-9, RAM team (Random Anti-terrorism unit), Motor Unit, Bike Unit, Mobile Patrol, etc..Just want to paint a true picture of the agency. For me, I spent 8 years with the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, DC., so the money and the speed here is a wonderful, well deserved pace. Good Luck!

[pentagonpd1]

The estimated number I heard was 67, of those 11 to the Air Marshals, some got the experience they wanted and landed back home with small local PD's, terminations, retirements, etc...We have approximately 650-700 officers in PFPA (including RMCC). Its completely normal for people to leave for whatever reason. If you guys are looking for the excitement of a local PD then this is not the place. 85% of what we do is protection, fixed post work. We do have one of the areas larges speciality units, ERT, PSU (protective service unit), K-9, RAM team (Random Anti-terrorism unit), Motor Unit, Bike Unit, Mobile Patrol, etc..Just want to paint a true picture of the agency. For me, I spent 8 years with the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, DC., so the money and the speed here is a wonderful, well deserved pace. Good Luck! Are you a pentagon police officer or are you with the MPD. If you're with the PPD, do officers have 24/7 carry and since there has been so many people that tranferred out of the PPD what is taking so long for them to start another FLETC class.

[bronxitalian35]

One of the reasons I heard that it's taking so long is that when the FLETC seats becme available, there is a bidding process and each agency is catered to by priority.For example, alot of the seats apparently are going to Border Patrol and Air Mashalls. If you read the headlnes you'd know why.BP is getting alot of publicity lately particularly by Mexico.Remember a while back the National Guard was deployed down there to reinforce security there.Also since TSA has gone to orange threat level ,(aka the liquids ban), you can certainly see the need to hire more Air Marshalls. I'm just guessing now, but if you think about the priority list along those lines, you can follow the logic.I spoke with an agent for the SS last night and he said that they're agressively hiring UD officers, so that could be a plan B.I'm 38 yrs. old and understand "protective service" means glorified guard duty and I'm fine with that.My experience in Federal service equals 4 yrs. with TSA so at my age I consider PFPA/SSUD and upgrade substantially.

[SinCity007]

Are you a pentagon police officer or are you with the MPD. If you're with the PPD, do officers have 24/7 carry and since there has been so many people that tranferred out of the PPD what is taking so long for them to start another FLETC class.
I am a Pentagon Police Supervisor, as far as 24/7 carry, we have the authority under the "The Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act", signed by the President in 2004 while off duty. Our agency has the view that if you act with that personal weapon off-duty, you are to abide by the laws of the jurisdiction were you take action. What federal officers can and can not do off duty is not very simple. It varies with each agency and from from state to state.

[efe1979]

we just gotta wait.

[SinCity007]

The manpower budget for FY2007 allots for 988 positions(DC and RMCC) and SinCity said there are 650-700 officers now, so money shouldn't be an issue. Main issue probably is getting FLETC seats, I would think that the Pentagon would be a priority since there has been a terrorist attack there, but whatever, we just gotta wait.
Where did you get the 988 manpower number? Make no mistake..money is always an issue, even for the Department of Defense. The Pentagon is a priority just as much as Airline safety, Securing the boarders, inspecting every ship that brings goods to our ports, oh did I meantion the WAR in IRAQ and Afghanistan? The seats at FLTEC is the sure bet why you guys are waiting. FLTEC trains everybody, they have so many seat per year, so many per agency etc..

[bronxitalian35]

Why did they stop using Artesia for UPTP? You would think with the need they would start it up again.

[pentagonpd1]

Today I spoke with Lt. Brusuayno. He told me that I was selected at my interview and I will be moving on with the next step. Now the bad news! Bronx you were right! He told me that they only have 17 seats for the next academy and that will be it until October 1st, when they get budget, so everything is on hold,including me. I was also informed that there 75 lucky people in line, he did not say if that included the 17 in the next class. I have a friend who works in D.C. for PFPA and he tells me that some classes for PFPA are as big 50. So, maybe it wont be too long of a wait. My outlook is that it is a GRRRREAT career and it is worth the wait.
Since we are here I have a few questions. Did you take the PEB at the pentagon gym? If so, how many laps was the 1.5 on the suspended track? Was the sit and reach box the kind that hangs over your shins? Was the agility one row of cones or was it 3 rows with the zig zag in the middle? I am confidant I can meet the standards, just want to be as prepared as possible.
Also, can you tell me how long the TS clearence takes. When i was in the Army I only had a S? Thanks for all the help guys!

He told you that they only have 17 seats for the next academy and that will be it until October 1st, when they get the budget. We are now in the end of October and nobody has yet to get a call. I completed my last step in May 2006 and I'm still waiting. Do you think what the Lt. Brusuayno said is reliable.

[crowbar]

I am begining to not trust anyone. I have quit calling D.C. because everytime I do, I get a differant awnser. I think that the HR department there and the recruiting office have differant orders or something.

[pentagonpd1]

I am begining to not trust anyone. I have quit calling D.C. because everytime I do, I get a differant awnser. I think that the HR department there and the recruiting office have differant orders or something.
I certainly have the same feeling CROWBAR.

[SinCity007]

One thing I learned from this agency and other Federal Law Enforcement Agencies is that, " The Call " comes when your not waiting around for it. That if you talk to several different people on all levels of recruiting, Human Resourses etc..you will get different answers. Just like speaking with officers, such as myself, you will get different views also. Fact, we have hired at least 200 officers this year, I know this because I work in the training division. Fact, we need more officers. Fact, we interviewed hundreds of applicants, I know this because interviewed some of you. Fact, we have a new Director, he has plans to expand and grow our agency. Saying all of that, those of you that went through the process, have very good chances in the future to be offered employment. What the hold up is, I don't know. But rest assured, There will be offers extended by Washington Headquarters Services when the time comes and you get the call, then be ready, with no excuses; because if you hesitate, complain, or show the lack of patience then the next man or woman will take your opportunity and make the best of it. Oh, another thing....if you have applications out there and another agency offers you a position, take it and if we call then examine your options. Best of luck to all of you.

[pentagonpd1]

One thing I learned from this agency and other Federal Law Enforcement Agencies is that, " The Call " comes when your not waiting around for it. That if you talk to several different people on all levels of recruiting, Human Resourses etc..you will get different answers. Just like speaking with officers, such as myself, you will get different views also. Fact, we have hired at least 200 officers this year, I know this because I work in the training division. Fact, we need more officers. Fact, we interviewed hundreds of applicants, I know this because interviewed some of you. Fact, we have a new Director, he has plans to expand and grow our agency. Saying all of that, those of you that went through the process, have very good chances in the future to be offered employment. What the hold up is, I don't know. But rest assured, There will be offers extended by Washington Headquarters Services when the time comes and you get the call, then be ready, with no excuses; because if you hesitate, complain, or show the lack of patience then the next man or woman will take your opportunity and make the best of it. Oh, another thing....if you have applications out there and another agency offers you a position, take it and if we call then examine your options. Best of luck to all of you.

If you guys need more officer why is it taking so long. I have been waiting over 6 months since the last step I completed. If you guy are really in need of officers I don't think you will have an applicant wait over 6 months after completing their final preliminary step. Another question, of those 200 officers that you hired where were they posted DC or RRMC? Second queston, when you say we will get a call in the near future, do you mean a few months or a few years from today.


In all honesty, Do you believe that those that completed all the steps will be in the academy before JUNE 2007.

Any feedback would be greatly appreicated.

[bronxitalian35]

Sin,
Thank you very much for your input. It is greatly appreciated.Having someone inside the organization's advice is that much more valued. It's not the "generic" response they're probably directed to give when we call in.I too have stopped calling in as much, mostly because I can pretty much read the writing on the wall.(On hold for whatever reason.)That being said Im still very interested in a career with the PFPA.I'm staying in shape, keeping my nose clean, still selling my house and staying ready for "the call".
I have one quick question though.TSA has begun a "pay for performance" progam this FY and will continue for the comming years.Being a Sup I did the eval.'s for my crew.I have heard a buzz about some other organizations adopting a similar program.Does this apply to the PFPA? And for the 0083's comming in does this take the place of the step system?

[SinCity007]

If you guys need more officer why is it taking so long. I have been waiting over 6 months since the last step I completed. If you guy are really in need of officers I don't think you will have an applicant wait over 6 months after completing their final preliminary step. Another question, of those 200 officers that you hired where were they posted DC or RRMC? Second queston, when you say we will get a call in the near future, do you mean a few months or a few years from today.


In all honesty, Do you believe that those that completed all the steps will be in the academy before JUNE 2007.

Any feedback would be greatly appreicated.
I researched a better number this morning, we have hired closer to 168 officers, thats including those who already had FLTEC training. I would guess that most of those were RMCC, because it was a priority to staff that location this year. Waiting 6 months to a year in some cases is not all that unsual. I know it sucks! It took PFPA 9 months to hire me, I was already an 0083 with FLETC back in 2003 (back then we had less than 300 officers). I have heard of others that were hired after 1 year of finishing everything. Many agencies will rush to process you because they have the funds to do it, then when the funds run dry for whatever reason, they ask for more to train and hire. Thats my best explaination for the source of your fustration. I wouldn't dare give you false hopes for 2007. If it is your desire to become a Federal Law Enforcement Officer then continue to persue it, never give up. The Pentagon will always be here.

[SinCity007]

Sin,
Thank you very much for your input. It is greatly appreciated.Having someone inside the organization's advice is that much more valued. It's not the "generic" response they're probably directed to give when we call in.I too have stopped calling in as much, mostly because I can pretty much read the writing on the wall.(On hold for whatever reason.)That being said Im still very interested in a career with the PFPA.I'm staying in shape, keeping my nose clean, still selling my house and staying ready for "the call".
I have one quick question though.TSA has begun a "pay for performance" progam this FY and will continue for the comming years.Being a Sup I did the eval.'s for my crew.I have heard a buzz about some other organizations adopting a similar program.Does this apply to the PFPA? And for the 0083's comming in does this take the place of the step system?
As of today's date, PFPA has gone to pay for performance, not PPD. There has been talk of doing this, but on the behalf of Union's. Federal Courts have put it on hold. It is the desire of this present Administration (BUSH) to have all Federal Employee's on this system. There is plenty of information on this on the Internet. The specific infomation on the Department of Defense can be found on this website.

http://www.cpms.osd.mil/nsps/

How they can make this work under our current pay structure is anyone's guess. I don't have a clue.

[bronxitalian35]

Well, if it's anything like TSA's deal...it's not good.Mr. Kip Hawley has stated that after the evaluations are completed, the hrly. wage would not be increased but rather you would recieve a bonus which would equal a percentage of your yearly salary at the end of the FY.My guess would be that officers hired after the established date will fall under the PFP program. Those whose pay scale is aleady established will remain the same. Thanks...

[efe1979]

Sincity,

How hard isunit get it to get into some of the units at DC such as ERT or Protective Services,

[SinCity007]

Sincity,

How hard is it to get into some of the units at DC such as ERT or Protective Services, and how long does an officer have to wait before he can apply for those? Also, does the ERT unit get lots of calls or not?
The entry grade level for "Officers" is AD-5/AD-6/AD-7, most speciality units here require that that you are an AD-7 before you can apply. That means it can take up to 2-3 years before you can compete for any open positions, no matter what duty location you are assigned (RMCC/PENTAGON).

I am not in ERT so I couldn't tell you specifically what level of calls they get. I do know they train, train, and did I meantion train alot. They also have a operational relationship with Virginia State Police, Maryland State Police, Arlington County Police and DC Police. My guess is that they cross-train and provide support if needed.

[efe1979]

I spoke with Ms. Finch today for the first time, she pretty much said the same thing. They haven't been told to hire any new officers as of yet. She said "everything is money driven, and FLETC seats are also an issue." She looked up my name and said I was high up on the list but didn't mention any letters to be going out. She also said they were in a hiring frenzy last year and hired close to their desired number.
But according to Sincity, lots have left recently so I'm just hoping that opens up more positions.
I also asked her if the positions would be eliminated or never offered, and she said she didn't have an answer for that.

I'm just going to continue to be patient and put in some applications at other agencies.

[pentagonpd1]

I spoke with Ms. Finch today for the first time, she pretty much said the same thing. They haven't been told to hire any new officers as of yet. She said "everything is money driven, and FLETC seats are also an issue." She looked up my name and said I was high up on the list but didn't mention any letters to be going out. She also said they were in a hiring frenzy last year and hired close to their desired number.
But according to Sincity, lots have left recently so I'm just hoping that opens up more positions.
I also asked her if the positions would be eliminated or never offered, and she said she didn't have an answer for that.

I'm just going to continue to be patient and put in some applications at other agencies.
Did you get a letter within the last week EFE1979 because I did. If we got a letter does it mean we are high on the list.

[pentagonpd1]

It is really hard to figure out whether the hiring freeze is a BUDGET problem or a FLETC dilemma. SINCITY stated that he doubts it's a money problem and more of a FLETC issue. But according to what EFE 1979 said, Mrs. Finch stated the waiting is more money driven. If everyone actually takes bits of what others have to say. It is really difficult to understand what is going on.

[efe1979]

No I haven't gotten a letter yet, what does yours say and when did you get it?

[bronxitalian35]

efe,...
So you got offers on the other agencies and turned them down?
I too am forming a "plan B", but I'm fairly sure those other agencies will take equal to or more time to play out the process.Something tells me alot of these agencies are "slowing down" the hiring process. I'm hearing a buzz FPS may be eventually disbanding altogether because of money.This Iraq thing seems to be sucking all the resources in Federal spending....

[toughjerseyguy]

deleted.....

[PPDMO373]

You could not be more off. Since this "Iraq Thing", federal spending on Homeland Security and all federal law enforcement agencies has increased exponentially. Such government agencies have never been so well funded.

Perhaps....but the money has to come from somewhere....that's why Justice slashed their budget by 25%.....

DODs budget is all going towards the war.....and if they do hire....it's just what they need to get the mission done. Places like Pentagon Police are made to do OT to make up for the lost officers.......

[pentagonpd1]

Did anyone notice that the pentagon police changed their recruitment phone number. The last time I called the recruitment # line was disconnected and that was about two weeks ago. What is going on?

[bronxitalian35]

probably because you keep calling...hahahaha :p (j/k)

[SinCity007]

Okay guys been doing some RECON, and found out that WHS is sending out letters to those potiental applicants that have done all their stuff this past year. I think those who get letters (not the "thank you for applying" ones) but something else have a real shot of getting "THE CALL". For that, the FLETC seats will be the issue (How many and when). Otherwise, other announcements are coming soon and next March is when I heard the time frame on hiring for those announcements. Get you resume in order, and a clean suit too. If I get a new number for recuiting I will post it.

[bronxitalian35]

Sincity,
Again, thank you for caring enough to keep us abreast on "the latest" info.My suit is already pressed and bagged, hanging in the closet. Gives me more time to sell the house...I'll check the boards periodically, if I hear anything, I'll post.Good luck to all you guys and keep running!!! :)

[pentagonpd1]

Okay guys been doing some RECON, and found out that WHS is sending out letters to those potiental applicants that have done all their stuff this past year. I think those who get letters (not the "thank you for applying" ones) but something else have a real shot of getting "THE CALL". For that, the FLETC seats will be the issue (How many and when). Otherwise, other announcements are coming soon and next March is when I heard the time frame on hiring for those announcements. Get you resume in order, and a clean suit too. If I get a new number for recuiting I will post it.

I really appreciate you sharing new information with the members of this forum. This is really good news for those that got letters.

[lilnupe2009]

I was reading the requirments for this job and it said "you must have at least 1 year of police experience or a Bachelor's degree, in Criminal Justice or a related field, from an accredited university or college". I will be finish with school this spring with a B.S in Information Technology and iam looking for a job in federal law enforcement. By me having a degree in Information Technology will this cause any problems for me with the pfpa.


So far am in the hiring process for the FBI Police.

[SinCity007]

As of November 13, 2006. If any applicant hasn't attended the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center for the Uniformed Police Training Program (UPTP), was known as Mixed Basic Police Program in the past, then you WILL be required to attend FLTEC, no exceptions. If you have been processing with the Pentagon Police Department within the last year and submitted a training wavier from another police department (i.e. DC police, state, or local PD) it will be mandatory for you to attend FLETC's UPTP 13 week course. Sorry, guys & gals.

The Department is working on something for those who previously got a training wavier, additional training perhaps.

Its starting to look like the Agency won't hire until 2007. Keep your fingers crossed.

[bronxitalian35]

I figured as much.But will it be early '07? I'm done wth my process and have recieved my "on hold" letter. I've still got a house to sell . Do you think the changing of the guard in Congress will affect the hiring in a + or - way?

[SinCity007]

Probably not, budgets for 2007 have already been approved, even so Congress wouldn't dare cut more money from DoD in a time of War, eventhough they proclaim they want our troops home. Its easier said than done at this point. Cutting more money would give the impression that they don't support the troops, add more money would give the impression that they agree with the President. As far as DoD budget, we are a small part of it...chances are it doesn't effect us in any way. DO NOT MAKE MOVES, like selling your house, until you have in writing that you have this job!!!!

[bronxitalian35]

Going through "life changes" and selling the house is part of it.Anyway apartment living makes it easier to jam should the call come.According to what you've said Sin, having the "hold" letter at least keeps my optmism up.I'm still running 5 dys a week and eating right.I've also put in app.'s w/ a few others(although I haven't even started the process with any of those.)just basically staying ready.

[pentagonpd1]

Happy Thanksgiving! Still waiting and remaining patient.

[sabresfan]

Thanks everyone for posting here. I interviewed a year, and finished the process back in May. I have been getting very anxious and nervous, but was relieved to see I was not the only and it calmed me down. I have made a few calls and emails and have gotten the same basic answers as everyone else.
It has been hard on me because I expected to leave already and my fiance already found a job down there and had to move, luckily she has family there to stay with.

Well hopefully the new year will bring some good news.

[pentagonpd1]

Thanks everyone for posting here. I interviewed a year, and finished the process back in May. I have been getting very anxious and nervous, but was relieved to see I was not the only and it calmed me down. I have made a few calls and emails and have gotten the same basic answers as everyone else.
It has been hard on me because I expected to leave already and my fiance already found a job down there and had to move, luckily she has family there to stay with.

Well hopefully the new year will bring some good news.

Did you get your "on hold" letter from WHS.

[sabresfan]

Yes I got it in a verified email. How did anyone else recieve theirs? By regular mail, email, etc.

[pentagonpd1]

Yes I got it in a verified email. How did anyone else recieve theirs? By regular mail, email, etc.
Got mine through email.

[efe1979]

finally got my letter today via email

[sabresfan]

finally got my letter today via email. Called Leonta Young and she said I was #4 on the list for DC, no other info from her.

I hate that they always give you different answers. I have called her and other people before, and they tell me there is a list, but either they cant tell me, or they wont since some people on the list could be waived from going to training that it would be flawed to dell me. I am waiting on D.C. also and wish I knew what number I was.

[efe1979]

I finally got the call today

[sabresfan]

Congratulations Efe. I hope I will be able to join you down there and will be hearing soon. I had already recieved my letter so hopefully a chance.

[bronxitalian35]

Wow that is fabulous news...good for you but damn, your gonna spend a good month in DC before FLETC. You interviewed for the DC location if I'm not mistaken, right? Good luck to you...I hope it means good news for the rest of us!!!

[crowbar]

Well, I got an e-mail. It said we are sorry but recruitment for the Job announcement number iI applied for has been canceled. So, good luck to all of you. I wish you the best.

[pentagonpd1]

Well, I got an e-mail. It said we are sorry but recruitment for the Job announcement number iI applied for has been canceled. So, good luck to all of you. I wish you the best.
What announcement # did you apply for?

[sabresfan]

I just got the call today! I will have to report in DC on Dec. 26th and will start FLETC on Jan 7th. I dont know what number I was on the list but it sounded like I just made it in based on a couple of other people dropping out. Sorry I didnt get any other information, but I will keep everyone posted when I get my packet of info and if I hear anything when I get there.

[ck9960]

First of all congratulations to you and all who have gotten a call. question sabre, when in May did you finish your PFT? and are you going to be in DC or Pennsylvania. I'm still waiting with my fingers crossed that I'm getting a call myself.

[sabresfan]

First of all congratulations to you and all who have gotten a call. question sabre, when in May did you finish your PFT? and are you going to be in DC or Pennsylvania. I'm still waiting with my fingers crossed that I'm getting a call myself.

I finished right at the very end of may, i think the 30th off the top of my head with out looking it up. I am going to DC. Good luck to you and everyone else, I know what its like to wait also and wish it didnt have to be.

[efe1979]

congratulations sabresfan!

[pentagonpd1]

I would like to know how often do FLETC (UPTP) classes run. If there is a January class does it mean we have to wait another 12 weeks for the next class. Maybe there is a month by month review to put more recruits in the academy. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[sabresfan]

I would like to know how often do FLETC (UPTP) classes run. If there is a January class does it mean we have to wait another 12 weeks for the next class. Maybe there is a month by month review to put more recruits in the academy. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I am guessing, and this is just a guess, but they run more often then every 12 weeks. In this thread Efe said he was going to start on the 15th, and I know I start on the 8th and we would be taking the same program.

[pentagonpd1]

I am guessing, and this is just a guess, but they run more often then every 12 weeks. In this thread Efe said he was going to start on the 15th, and I know I start on the 8th and we would be taking the same program.

Now do you get paid at the starting salary rate once your in DC on DEC 26th or do you get paid your first day in the FLETC academy.

How does it work.

[ck9960]

Could everyone still waiting give the date (month and day) you finished your pft and the location VA/DC or PA you will be working. Post on here so we can see in which order we stand.
05/10/06 PA Thanks ~ Carl

[sabresfan]

Now do you get paid at the starting salary rate once your in DC on DEC 26th or do you get paid your first day in the FLETC academy.

How does it work.
I am not sure about how the pay works yet. I am waiting on a packet of information that will provide me with all the details. If its not in there I will call and find out and then let you know.

I will try and keep this updated for you so you know what to expect as you move on also.

[sabresfan]

If anyone could give me extra information on the organization and the FLETC training I would appreciate.
Things such as what kind of equipment are you given or do you need to purchase? What kind of gun are you given or allowed to carry? What is the basic program in FLETC like and can I expect when I go?

I know that is alot but I am just wondering and any thing would be appreciated.

[efe1979]

completed my first day of processing today, lots of paperwork.

[ck9960]

Thank you efe, ill be waiting to hear how everything is going and please do try to find out info when more calls will be coming. Thanks

[sabresfan]

completed my first day of processing today, lots of paperwork. Two other guys started with me today, both are going to RRMC.
Nine will be starting next week, all except for one working at DC, i think. We have to report 7-3 everyday up until FLETC date. i'll let you guys know if I hear anything concerning more calls.

Efe,
Can you give us an idea of what you are doing on those days until you go.

[efe1979]

be patient, it's hard, but hopefully everyone will get called soon.

[pentagonpd1]

EFE

Do you know how many are graduating and where most of the new recruits are going to be posted.

[efe1979]

don't know where.

[pentagonpd1]

Okay guys been doing some RECON, and found out that WHS is sending out letters to those potiental applicants that have done all their stuff this past year. I think those who get letters (not the "thank you for applying" ones) but something else have a real shot of getting "THE CALL". For that, the FLETC seats will be the issue (How many and when). Otherwise, other announcements are coming soon and next March is when I heard the time frame on hiring for those announcements. Get you resume in order, and a clean suit too. If I get a new number for recuiting I will post it.

It has been almost two months since this message was posted and there has still no vacancy announcements posted for the postion of police officer. If your going to put out a vacancy announcement and have to those that apply be in the academy by MARCH then we should be getting a call really soon guys. But i'm not sure how reliable this person is that posted the above message. He supposedly is a police officer supervisor for the PFPA. I'm beginning not to believe anyone.

Did anyone get an update from WHS.