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Greeneyez1121
12-08-2005, 02:20 PM
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Soon2Be
12-08-2005, 03:17 PM
double-post

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39744

you wont get any different answers here. I guarantee it.

Greeneyez1121
12-08-2005, 03:38 PM
I posted here 1st. THen i saw the other thread, where officers answer only. I thought id get more responses there, so i re-posted the thread in another place.

SgtScott31
12-08-2005, 06:11 PM
I posted here 1st. THen i saw the other thread, where officers answer only. I thought id get more responses there, so i re-posted the thread in another place.

Asked & answered. Your "friends" were speeding and need to man up & pay the fine. They are not going to win in court.

Whether 80mph or 69/71 as you stated they were going, all is over the posted 65mph, so guilty, plain & simple.

Greeneyez1121
12-08-2005, 06:18 PM
Asked & answered. Your "friends" were speeding and need to man up & pay the fine. They are not going to win in court.

Whether 80mph or 69/71 as you stated they were going, all is over the posted 65mph, so guilty, plain & simple.


Its all the same to you, but the ticket fine is MUCH higher!

SgtScott31
12-08-2005, 07:11 PM
Its all the same to you, but the ticket fine is MUCH higher!

Not all the same to me, all the same to the judge.

Best case scenario, your buds go to court and the judge lowers the speed, but still convicts them of speeding, which increases the insurance just the same.

irishlad2nv
12-09-2005, 07:54 AM
Hi,

I am seeking advice for a friend who is a tractor trailer driver. He recieved a speeding ticket on Interstate 80 in Ohio near the city of Akron while driving his truck. THe officer pulled him over and told him that he was going 76 in a 65 zone. Actually, he was not going that fast. He had his truck set on cruise control for 71mph. It is still speeding, but not as fast as the officer claimed. My friend told the officer that he could not have been going that fast because he had his truck on cruise control, and he knew that there was nothing wrong w/ the cruise control. It could not have been inaccurate. The officer appeared nervous and fidgetty, like he just wanted to leave. The officer replyed saying that this is what he caught him at and its what he wrote on the ticket. My friend accepted the ticket and left. Later he found out that another driver from the same company had recieved a ticket in the same area from the same officer (based on badge #) and the officer claimed that he was going 74 in the 65 zone. Actually the driver had been traveling 68 in the 65 zone. The officer lied.
About 2 weeks later, my friend was driving in the same area of I-80, and he pulled over at a truck stop. He got back on the highway, and this time set his cruise control on 69mph in a 65mph zone. He went up a hill, and at the top of the hill, he spotted a police car in the median. He continued going the set cruise control speed of 69mph. The officer pulles him over and tells him that he was going 80mph. Again, my friend states that it cannot be true because he had his cruise control set for 69 and he had just come up a hill, so he could not have been going that fast up the hill on a truck. The officer said that he spotted him gaining speed, 65, 70, and then 80mph. He was correct stating that my friend was gaining speed to place the cruise control on, but there is no way that he could go up to 80, going up a hill, knowing that there is a police officer sitting in the median. So he tells the police officer that he still has a ticket that has not been taken care of, asking if the officer could give him a break. The officer states the he will give him a break of 5miles lower. So he wrote out a ticket for 75mph. I dont believe that if an officer spotted a trucker driving 80mph, that he would lower it to 75mph, b/c 80 mph is such a large speed that its unforgiveable. Also the officer could not look the driver in the face most of the time, as if he were hiding something. It was just very obvious that the whole thing was false.
Now, there is a problem of proving this in court that these 2 officers from the same town were lying. Do you have any advice on how to beat these 2 tickets in court? Is there anything that a civilian can use to defend himself b/c most judges side with the police, so there is a small chance of winning?
Why not have your "friends" write on here and seek advice instead of you attempting to lure other LE personnel in here to read this bogus story. You were not there, so you are hearing by a rumor. Don't worry about it and don't come in here asking for advice. If your "friends"have a problem, have them go in person to the police department and file a complaint. Since its obvious that they have to send you to rant in here.

hemicop
12-09-2005, 09:36 AM
This is all (admittedly) 2nd hand info on your part & you're asking how to beat a ticket on a police forum? :eek: . Your friends were wrong,whether it was by 5 or 50 mph. Issuing citations is at the offs. discretion, usually, & since none of us were there to account for traffic conditions,etc. the best answer is to tell your friends to 'fess up in court & hope the judge is somewhat understanding. If you're wondering why the offs. were so intolerant of the speed, perhaps they were on a commercial veh. enforcement assignment. I don't think any off. is going to risk his job & intentionally lie about speeding to help increase the city's coffers--it doesn't make sense.

jakflak
12-09-2005, 10:53 AM
Actually, he was not going that fast.

The officer lied.

How do you know? Were you there?

Now, there is a problem of proving this in court that these 2 officers from the same town were lying.

Let's look at this: a cop who has no reason to lie is being accused of lying so he can write a ticket. Last time I checked the road, I didn't have to make up moving violations in order to write tickets. It's not like we get a bloody commission on them.

However, your friend who admitted to you that he was speeding is now saying the officer lied because he thinks he was going slower?

Your friend needs to put the cruise control on 65mph and pay his tickets. If he thinks he's innocent, he should go to court.

Do you have any advice on how to beat these 2 tickets in court?

Yes. Pay them and slow down. Works every time.

narc
12-09-2005, 12:12 PM
pay the fine, slow down a quit complaining.......by your friends own admission he was speeding. let him come here and explain his story or tell it to a judge.

IT is MENTAL.......how you go from your friend receiving a ticket that he rightfully deserved CAUSE he was speeding to CORRUPT COPS....and that's how YOU titled it.......if you think I'm belittling .....fine....I'm just doing what you did.....making A JUDGEMENT about people using second hand info.