New York State Police

[Troophopeful]

Haven't heard anything regarding the NYS processing for the next upcoming class and wanted to start a thread so all interested can keep inform. Where is everyone as far as processing? I'm still waiting to hear from a b.i. waiting patiently.

[NYSPGreg]

talked to my BI already... he's doing his thing on my background. I'm waiting on him to be done and waiting on my polygraph..

the academy claas is scheduled to start in mid april so that gives BIs plenty of time to get theur report done on background investigations

[RGratton]

I believe that my background update was completed just before Thanksgiving. I

[NYSPGreg]

I hope to see all of you guys in april

I've heard a few troopers and investigaitors say that the brass is pushing for this class to be filled...

so hopefully thats good news for us

can't wait to see us all in grey and purple

gray riders all the way

[Troophopeful]

Glad to see life again on these threads as far as the NYSP processing goes.

RGratton,

Sucks feeling like your life is on hold, trust me i know how you feel! I too will start back into the pting again next month, as longs as your are layered up, running in the cold is not too bad (the folks up in the albany do it almost daily). Did your bi call and tell you that your update was done? Wondering how that is communicated to candidates (different b.i. have their own styles)

NYSPGreg,

Hope we all make it to the april class, the waiting in itself is a challenge but its part of the game.............Good luck to you both.

[NYSPGreg]

indeed the waiting game is the hardest... but I've compared the NYSP selection process with many other agencies and trust me guys it's not all that bad for us as we've gone thru the biggest part which was the processing weekend in albany

[RGratton]

Sucks feeling like your life is on hold, trust me i know how you feel! I too will start back into the pting again next month, as longs as your are layered up, running in the cold is not too bad (the folks up in the albany do it almost daily). Did your bi call and tell you that your update was done? Wondering how that is communicated to candidates (different b.i. have their own styles)


Waiting is a bummer, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is worth it. Besides, the April class will miss any bad weather :)

I

[Troophopeful]

Thanks for the info RG.
Enjoy the running, those must be some large halls :)


[QUOTE=RGratton]Waiting is a bummer, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is worth it. Besides, the April class will miss any bad weather :)

I

[RANDALL29]

My Bi Is Just About Finish With My Background Investigation And I Hope To See You Guys In The April's Academy Class.

[NYSPGreg]

you're the guy from florida charles told me about.... lucky bastard :p u got to do your background interview, psychological and poly all within a few days...

but thats good that they accomodated you because you're from fla

hope to see you in april

[Troophopeful]

Randall,


Nice to be able to knock off a few birds with one stone.

Now the waiting continues.

Guys, what’s everyone opinion on when medical invites will be out?

Looking at past timelines my opinion is that letters should be out by the last week of January.

[RANDALL29]

That Is True I Had My First Bi Interview On The 9th Of Nov At 9am And Then I Had My Psych Interview At 2:45pm The Same Day. On Nov The 10th I Had My Polygraph Exam In Farmingdale Li. My Bi Has Been A Fair A Straight Up Guy And I Really Appreciate That From Him. All He Asked From Me Is To Be Completely Honest With Him That's What I've Done And So Far Everything Is Going Positive For Me And My Family.

[thederrick106]

does any one know, or have any ideas of when the next up coming nys trooper test is? thanks,
Derrick

[Troophopeful]

According to the information posted on the official NYSP website, the next exam most likely will take place late 2007.

[Ranter64]

I got a letter a couple weeks ago telling me I am still alive in the process and that I will hear from my BI sometime. Waiting, waiting, waiting. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to do another x-mas in retail. By the way did any of you guys have your BI switched on you last time.

[SlowDownThere]

According to the information posted on the official NYSP website, the next exam most likely will take place late 2007.

Certainly don't expect one before 2007.

The current class is up to about 3500. The last list went to 10700. So we have a ways to go on the current list yet.

[Ranter64]

I met with my BI today. Nothing has changed in the last 6 months for me and he said he will finish his report today after he speaks to my g/f. To all those getting updated my BI said that just the fact that they are updating you is a very good sign that they still want you. If not you would have already been dismissed. Good luck to all. :)

[Holltim4103]

My background investigator is just finishing up my update as well.

Just FYI: Greatest invention for running...besides running shoes.... MP3 player! Just got one as an early Christmas present. Took me a couple nights at work to figure it out, but it really pumps me up and gives me the boost I need on these cold winter mornings.

Good Luck and keep running and hitting the gym!

[Troophopeful]

Ranter,

Glad to hear that things are wrapping up for you man., things are rolling around here as well.

Holltim,

The player makes a hell of a difference especially when one is running solo and the mind is at a standstill.

[SlowDownThere]

You guys looking at April, right?

[Holltim4103]

Yes, I am hoping and have my fingers crossed for the Spring class.

[SlowDownThere]

Yes, I am hoping and have my fingers crossed for the Spring class.

and yes, it is indeed a good sign that they are updating the BI.

If they had uncovered any reason to DQ you, they would have by now.

Good luck.

[RGratton]

Yes, also hoping to make the April class. Good to hear that you guys are moving along with everything too. I would like to find someone from the Wayne, Monroe, or Ontario county area to carpool with if I make it into that class :)

[Troophopeful]

Its nice to have these forums..........

i can just imagine all the others in the process who are just waiting with no clue as to how things are moving along and then just decide to persue other interest.

[SlowDownThere]

Yes, also hoping to make the April class. Good to hear that you guys are moving along with everything too. I would like to find someone from the Wayne, Monroe, or Ontario county area to carpool with if I make it into that class :)

If you make it into the class, you will.

Probably not before the first week, but at the academy. Car pooling is very common there. It's a good chance to study together too. I made life long friends with the guys I car-pooled with.

[NYSPGreg]

my BI sent his report on my background up to albany w/o having me taking a polygraph yet

he told me there were some issues and member hiring at albany told me I was under review....

I don't have anything major (no arrest, no criminal record) my 2 major stains on my background are my driving record (no DWIs but plenty of speeding tickets and a few point suspensions) and my credit which ain't that great (no major hits there but I got a $15,000 debt and a few stuff in collection)

he said the panel in albany will contact me if they want me to take the polygraph and further up my processing

I dunno really what to think... I am still upbeat but I can't hide that I am a lil anxious

[Troophopeful]

Greg, good luck with your situation.

[RANDALL29]

Greg, i hope that everything works out for you just stay positive. Greg is charles your BI.

[NYSPGreg]

nope.. John is

[NYSPGreg]

good luck to you guys... my lead foot was the cause of my DQ....

I hope you guys make it and once you get to wear the grey and purple be proud that you guys were able to go through the entire process

I am still upbeat because I intend to take the 2007 test... it at first you do't suceed... TRY AGAIN

again guys persevere and good luck!

[Troophopeful]

NYSPGreg,

Sorry to hear about the news. I commend you for having such a positive attitude and wish you the best. Now from here on forward be mindful of your driving and of everything you do. Prior to applying to LE I had no idea that all these different areas (driving, work, civil, credit and all other misc histories) played a factor in ones being considered for employment. The LE process is very thorough and competitive. All the best to you.

[Ferraranj]

I am currently in the process for NYSP and I have been reading this forum for about a month now. I was just wondering if anyone new what ranks are in the class that started in sept. My rank is in the 900's and I just wanted to get an idea if the april class is possible. Any input is greatly appreciated.

[Troophopeful]

Ferraranj, Where you on deferral or did you come in late by taking a military supplemental?

Well, if I

[Ferraranj]

Yes, I was a military supplemental guy.

I have passed the psych, background, and polygraph. My BI just sent my report to Albany last week. He told me that he was not sure on a time frame for me to hear anything back. Would any of you guys have an idea on when we would hear back?

[Troophopeful]

Ferraranj,

The next step in the process is the medical invite and from looking at past processing timelines I would say that either invites for medicals or rejection letters should be out by late January. Spoke with a recruiter and as of now the next academy may be set for the 1st week of April.


Yes, I was a military supplemental guy.

I have passed the psych, background, and polygraph. My BI just sent my report to Albany last week. He told me that he was not sure on a time frame for me to hear anything back. Would any of you guys have an idea on when we would hear back?

[SlowDownThere]

Ferraranj,

The next step in the process is the medical invite and from looking at past processing timelines I would say that either invites for medicals or rejection letters should be out by late January. Spoke with a recruiter and as of now the next academy may be set for the 1st week of April.



Man, you stay right up on this. I work there and I cana't stay on top of it like you. I have to visit this site to learn what's going on at work, lol.

[mike the marine]

Does anyone have any info on how big the spring class will actually be?

[Troophopeful]

I try man, i try. The Only way to keep the sanity while we wait for any type of news :D

Man, you stay right up on this. I work there and I cana't stay on top of it like you. I have to visit this site to learn what's going on at work, lol.

[2xvet]

Ferraranj,

The next step in the process is the medical invite and from looking at past processing timelines I would say that either invites for medicals or rejection letters should be out by late January. Spoke with a recruiter and as of now the next academy may be set for the 1st week of April.


I called H.R. and they said the same thing. They said the letters for the Medicals will go out around mid-month January. As far as DQ Letters go, if the updated B.I. found anything, you would have received the letter already. I know the last class stopped taking people in at 1700 on the list, and they invited up to 3500 on the list for processing weekend back in early 2005. I was told they processed up 900 people to fill the 80-100 seats in the September Class, and they processed 1700 candidates to fill the class before that. So based on averages, if your number is within a 900 from the 1700 starting list number (ie: 2600) you have a really good chance of making the next class even if it is only 100 seats. Obviously if the class is open for 250 seats, the number of candidates they will process on the list will be greater and so are your chances.

I take all this info with a grain of salt.. I will only believe I'm in when I get the letter. Until then, I'm just training and being patient.

"Just because you deposited the check, the money still isn't in the bank until that check clears.."

[RGratton]

Thanks for the information 2xvet. I e-mailed my recruiter not too long ago to see if he has any new information, but no response yet. I wonder if they ever get tired of us! It is fortunate that impatience with human resources isn

[Troophopeful]

I am glad I'm not the only one calling recruitment with my questions every so often.

Gratton, what are special troopers/ special investigators? Are those members of the nyspp? Haven

[RGratton]

They were members of the NYSP. Special Troopers are retired Troopers that were rehired temporarily to work security details and in carry out other law enforcement duties following 9-11. For example, one of their primary duties was guarding power plants. It was a pretty good deal for them since they could collect retirement and get paid for what they were working too.

I just started running again this week. I did 4 miles yesterday and I

[MBMB]

yeah gratton i am doing about that same thing you are. im running 3 times a week at 4 miles each time and i eventually hope to up the mileage. Does anyone know exactly what will be expected of us at the medical?

[SlowDownThere]

[QUOTE=RGratton]

I was told that the NYSP ended the program for

[Holltim4103]

The last medical I was in and out pretty quick. Go in and do a breathing apparatus/gas mask questionaire, then moved on to the weight and height measurements, situps and pushups, stripped down to underwear/met with the doctor and then a lieutenant gave a quick end of day debrief. I think I was there for about 3 hours.

[Troophopeful]

Double post

The last medical I was in and out pretty quick. Go in and do a breathing apparatus/gas mask questionaire, then moved on to the weight and height measurements, situps and pushups, stripped down to underwear/met with the doctor and then a lieutenant gave a quick end of day debrief. I think I was there for about 3 hours.

[Holltim4103]

That was how the August one was conducted. (Saturday at the Academy)

[Troophopeful]

Don

[RGratton]

I heard the same thing as well from a friend. This is probably one of the reasons why: http://www.rnews.com/story_2004.cfm?story_type=2&rnews_story_type=18&id=33133

I can't wait for the academy! :D

[Troophopeful]

Gratton,

Makes 2 of us.

[RANDALL29]

This is wonderful news I hope I see you guys up there in April have all of you guys taken your polygraphs yet.

[SlowDownThere]

The article, and a longer on in the NY Post, doesn't make it clear, but it seems like the Gov. is talking about 100 new positions, in addition to normal hiring, since they will be Investigator positions.

http://officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=27640

Good news indeed, for any one on the current list.

[mike the marine]

I heard the same thing as well from a friend. This is probably one of the reasons why: http://www.rnews.com/story_2004.cfm?story_type=2&rnews_story_type=18&id=33133

I can't wait for the academy! :D
"The New York State Police is to hire 100 new State Troopers". Does anyone know what this actually means? I read different articles saying different things. Some say 100 new Investigators, some say 100 new Troopers. If it is new Troopers, is that in addition to the anticipated size of the spring academy?

[SlowDownThere]

"The New York State Police is to hire 100 new State Troopers". Does anyone know what this actually means? I read different articles saying different things. Some say 100 new Investigators, some say 100 new Troopers. If it is new Troopers, is that in addition to the anticipated size of the spring academy?

It means that 100 new positions are authorized. They will be Investigator positions. They will hire 100 new Troopers to replace the 100 Troopers who will get promoted to Invesitgator.

Overall, the size of the Division will be 100 larger, which makes them hire 100 additional people. But the number of Troops in uniform will not go up.

Clear?

[Holltim4103]

Randall29 - Will you have to come up to participate in the final medical before the academy? Or did they accommodate you when you came up last time to save you the trip?

[RANDALL29]

I have not taking my medical yet does anyone have a timeline when we will be called up for hour medical exams.

[Troophopeful]

From looking at how things have been done in the past, timeline (my opinion here) should play out something like this.

1. Med invites should start arriving in mid January
2. The medical should be taking place either mid to late February (med invites usually arrive 3-6 weeks prior to the actual medical).




I have not taking my medical yet does anyone have a timeline when we will be called up for hour medical exams.

[RANDALL29]

From looking at how things have been done in the past, timeline (my opinion here) should play out something like this.

1. Med invites should start arriving in mid January
2. The medical should be taking place either mid to late February (med invites usually arrive 3-6 weeks prior to the actual medical).

Thanks for your answer have you taking your poly yet

[Troophopeful]

Yeah, took poly a while ago. I know you had your poly in Nov

Thanks for your answer have you taking your poly yet

[RANDALL29]

I know this is kind of late, but I wish everyone Merry Christmas and a happy new year and I also wish that everyone's wish of getting into the spring academy comes true for all who are still alive in this post from the bottom of my heart to all

[Troophopeful]

I second you on this one. All the best to everyone on this 2006, as far as nysp looks like we are all still in waiting mode.


I know this is kind of late, but I wish everyone Merry Christmas and a happy new year and I also wish that everyone's wish of getting into the spring academy comes true for all who are still alive in this post from the bottom of my heart to all

[RGratton]

Thanks Randall and Troophopeful, hope you guys are having a great New Year

[mike the marine]

Trying to keep this alive! Anyone have any new information such as more rumors about the size of the next class, up to what rank number they will be calling to the medical, or what rank number they will reach for the class?

[Troophopeful]

Everything keep pointing to a HUGE next class. Some time ago i spoke with a recruiter and was told the same thing, the next class is going to be massive.
As far as your other questions, no answers from me yet.
I think right now everyone # 1 concern should be ready to go and continue with the pt.


Trying to keep this alive! Anyone have any new information such as more rumors about the size of the next class, up to what rank number they will be calling to the medical, or what rank number they will reach for the class?

[Troophopeful]

April 2006.

[Ranter64]

I just talked to my recruiter today and he said class should start the 1st week of April or maybe the 2nd (3rd or 10th for dates). He also told me it would be a class of 260. That is the biggest class size they can have and still be all on the same campus. And I also found out my rank has gone up about 300 places since the initial test score. Good luck to all. And I can't wait for family orientation so the recruiter can tell my girlfriend I don't have to do yard work when I'm home on the weekends because I'll be studying.

[Troophopeful]

Ranter, you are indeed correct. The NYSP is holding a pat weekend in feb, they will be calling a whole new group of candidates from the list so that they can have the large class in April (since they have to up the #'s of qualified recruits ready for the academy) The SP is really going to be busy these next few weeks.

[SlowDownThere]

Good luck, I hope you all make it into the April class.

[mike the marine]

Does anyone have any idea when the medical will be held? I would think March, but I dought it because of more processing in February.

[RGratton]

Do you think it is possible that they will hold two separate medical examinations? They are going to be cutting it awfully close with a February processing and an April academy.

[Troophopeful]

RGratton:

I was thinking of the same thing. More in the lines of the NYSP consolidating the process for the pat weekend candidates in early Feb to cover all the areas of the medical (pu/su) at the time of processing then for those who are fit to move on, have the bi, poly, psych etc. Then just processing a 2nd medical for the non Feb candidates and then sending invites in rank order. Just a thought. NYPD did something similar, called some candidates from the Oct 2005 written test for processing this weekend. Those who make it will go in to the current academy (started on 1/9.06) by the 31st of this month.

[2xvet]

The rumor mill says they are processing PAT's up to 4500-4700 to ensure they have enough candidates ready for the next class of 260. Problem is, is that it takes a minimum of 3 months to process these new candidates. Because of this time frame, the word is that the class will be pushed back to may/june. So all we have now is time and patience to work on along with our PT Scores...

Bigger the class, the bigger our chances to getting a seat.. If they have to process more people to fill a class, we all should be in a good position to getting in.. Good Luck All..

[RGratton]

I hope they can find a way to shorten the timeline for the sake of everyone and keep it in April. If they need new troopers as bad as people are saying, then it would behoove them to get it going as soon as possible (probably paying out a lot of money in overtime). I guess if they can

[SlowDownThere]

[QUOTE=RGratton]
I did hear something about the possibility of an Oswego class a while ago. However, I haven

[RGratton]

I tried to throw some water on it myself, but figured I would toss it out there. We can call it debunked. It sure would save me a lot of driving time though! I

[Trooper4985]

[QUOTE=RGratton]I did hear something about the possibility of an Oswego class a while ago. However, I haven

[RGratton]

Here is a link to Governor Pataki

[mtnliving]

Im not living in ny right now, but plan on it in the furture. Ive heard of the ny troopers having a testing in a couple years, 1-2 from now. I was wondering how strict they are with the bi, i have heard they do not allow any drug use, then i have heard that they just want you to be honest with them if you had over five years ago, or if any at all. maybe some of you that have gone through this can give me some insite on this matter.

-thanks

[Trooper4985]

Im not living in ny right now, but plan on it in the furture. Ive heard of the ny troopers having a testing in a couple years, 1-2 from now. I was wondering how strict they are with the bi, i have heard they do not allow any drug use, then i have heard that they just want you to be honest with them if you had over five years ago, or if any at all. maybe some of you that have gone through this can give me some insite on this matter.

-thanks

Drug usage is not the issue.. Integrity issues are what get's most people DQed. Smoke a little weed 8 years ago in high school when you were dumb... not a big deal. Smoke weed after you've decided that you want a career in law enforcement... probably not someone I want to work with. Listing "Meth Cook" as one of your previous jobs or "winner of High Times Best Hydro Setup contest" as a major accomplishment... don't waste your time taking the test.

Telling the truth about mistakes you have made in the past is the right thing to do. Maybe they will tell you that your issues are too recent and you should defer to a later class and take time to show us that you've changed... it happens a lot. I know a Senior Investigator's son and a couple of local Police Officers who have been told they need to give it some more time before they will be considered for appointment to the academy. Lie about things you've done and you wont have to worry about psych tests and polygraphs because you'll be dropped from processing and probably told to not apply again.

Integrity is what gets guys fired too... not their actions... lieing about what they did is what gets them fired.

[Knott333]

i agree with you all.

[WishIKnew]

Hello everyone, Just came across this site, its good to see other people going through the same uncertainty I am going through. About the Oswego academy, I have heard this also. The new gun control task force is really pushing the numbers way up, very good for us. The Academy in Oswego is currently used for the EnCon cops, but unlike the SP they don't have an academy every 6 months.

I'm also interested as to when people hear about the Medical, so if anyone gets a letter please let us know. Also, about the DQ letters, a buddy of mine went through the whole process last year and never reieved a letter saying he wasn't in until after the academy had already started. Are they pretty good about letting you know if you didn't get in?

One more thing, as you all know the last processing was for deferred applications and military, therefore the rankings are going to be pretty skewed due to the extra 5 points military and higher ranking deferred people. My number is in the 1700's. Any idea on where that puts me on the list for the April academy, I'd rather not wait another 6 months, but I will if I have to. Lets keep everyone posted.

[mike the marine]

If your in the 1700's and haven't been disqualified, you'll be in the next class. Your only worries which are not really worries at all is when the medical will be, and most importantly when the academy will start.(just like the rest of us in this forum)

[wannabeenytrp]

We just got an email stating that the April class will be 260 and the following class most probably will be the same size.

I don't recall but I believe it also stated that they will reach 4,200 on the list from this class, and there is another testing (processing weekend) taking place in early Feb. As most of you know they may call upto 4,200 but not all will get the nod for the academy; it depending on how qualified the candidates are...

Good luck to those waiting and I am thinking a lot of people will be getting some kind of correspondence from the NYSP in the next 6 months...

[Troophopeful]

Wannabeenytrp,

Thanks for the update, sounds good.

[WishIKnew]

Thanks for the info.

Listen to this guys. The NYPD just called to see if I was interested in entering the January 31's class. 300 new spots just opened up for the academy and they need to fill them. I guess they can process me in 10 days, thats not saying a lot for the NYPD. They must really be hurting for qualified applicants since I just got my scores from the test last week.

[SlowDownThere]

Thanks for the info.

Listen to this guys. The NYPD just called to see if I was interested in entering the January 31's class. 300 new spots just opened up for the academy and they need to fill them. I guess they can process me in 10 days, thats not saying a lot for the NYPD. They must really be hurting for qualified applicants since I just got my scores from the test last week.


What are you going to do? take the job with NYPD?

Or hold out for SP?

[WishIKnew]

I told the NYPD that I wasn't interestd in the upcoming class, but to keep me on the list for the July class. It would be a mistake for me to give up on the SP so easily. 28K for 5 years would be a huge pay cut for me. How does anyone live on that? Now, if I don't get into the SP that will change things.

[Ferraranj]

I was wondering if one of you guys could give some feedback on this to put my mind at ease. My BI finished my background in the end of Nov and I havent heard anything from him since. Then last week he called and told me that he got a call from Albany and that there was two tickets I got that I didnt tell him about. I guess they were two tickets on got on the base when I was in the military, one for seatbelt and not wearing a jacket on my motorcycle. I had honestly forgot that I received them and on the base the tickets dont go on your license just on your military driving report. My question is are these tickets going to hinder my package at all or am I really over analyzing the whole thing. Other than those tickets and a three others i got in my life (one of which was speeding) I have nothing else derogatory on my background. No drug use, excellent credit, and no criminal offenses of any kind. Thanks in advance for you responses.

[ChrisNJ28]

Hello All..


Newbie here...


If you knew you weren't in good enough physical shape to breeze through the physical fitness test, would you still attend the processing weekend anyway? I am thinking about deferring to the next processing sometime later in the year and using that time to get myself in the best possible shape...

Any insights you guys could provide would be very helpful...

[RGratton]

ChrisNJ28, if I knew that I was going to have trouble with the physical agility test, then I would probably defer if possible. The academy isn

[mike the marine]

I agree with RGratton. The academy is very close, and you may want more time to prepare yourself. You want to go into that academy tough both mentally and physically. If your missing one, you may have a tough time.

[ChrisNJ28]

Thanks for your advice guys and I agree with you both I think it makes the most sense to defer at this point...

[wannabeenytrp]

ChrisNJ:

Tough call on the PAT. Depends on how close you are to not making it. I wouldn't defer myself as it means another 6 months you won't be on the job and anything can happen in that time, i.e lose a job and credit gets shot, a speeding ticket, or something outlandish, but you know Murphy' Law. Plus I have jinxed you know by saying all this...

Also, I just spoke to a guy in the academy and they were told the number for the next class is now 285.. rumours... :D

[Trooper4985]

Anybody can push themselves to make 1.5 miles in 12:18... you might puke when you're done but anybody can push themselves for 12 minutes. If you can't do the pushups or situps... there is no quick fix for them so I would reccomend deferring but busting your *** every day and get yourself in graduation PT shape before the academy even starts (using the fact that once you're in the academy... they pay you $50k to do PT and make your bed as motivation to get into shape). I have posted this before and I will say it again... cruising under the radar for PT makes life so much easier. They can't fire you for PT but they can certainly make your life hell for 6 months.

About the 285 recruits for class size... sounds like they are front loading for a 250 graduation class which is smart but it's going to make for some tight living for a while till people realize they miss their mommy and don't like being yelled at "for no reason" ;)

Good luck to all the hopefuls for this class... we need more bodies on the road.

[ChrisNJ28]

I feel confident that I could squeak in under the wire with the run but the pushups and the situps need some work before I could pass the PAT...

Anyway it is a great gig and hope the state is as generous with a fall class as they may be with this upcoming spring class...

[WishIKnew]

Chris, If you really want to be a trooper you would do situps and pushup everday till the processing. I have a friend who took the test with me and is using the same excuse you are. If you weren't motivated before to get into shape for this processing then you probably won't do it for the next. 37 pushups and 40 situps is not that hard, suck it up and get into shape, you still have time. If for some reason you fail they just tell you to come back next time, you are not disqualified. At least you will know what you have to do in order to get into shape for the next one. I don't mean to sound harsh but most the applicants will pretty much do anything to get into the SP. Good luck.

[Troophopeful]

Chris, what are your numbers like (p/u, s/u, run time)?? I agree with some of the other folks who are saying that maybe you shouldn

[WishIKnew]

If they are processing more people on Feb 4th for the April class then most likely they will have to postpone the academy, am I right? Would they wait and do the medicals all together? What is the fastest they can process people from PAT to academy? They would have to do everything in less than a month to keep to the April date.

Could someone please tell me what to expect at the medical. Thanks.

[ChrisNJ28]

Hey Wish...

Thanks for the input I really appreciate your view on my situation.. I need to drop some weight and I want to pass the PT test on the first try, going up to Albany and crossing my fingers in hopes that I will pass is not going to cut it... I know that the PT test isn't exactly an insurmountable obstacle but It isn't exactly easy either if the only thing I do in the winter is slack off...

[Trooper4985]

Could someone please tell me what to expect at the medical. Thanks.

Turn your head and cough... now bend over and spread 'em! :eek:

[Troophopeful]

IWISHKNEW,

Guess you got your answers :D

Turn your head and cough... now bend over and spread 'em! :eek:

[Troophopeful]

Rumors floating around about the academy possibly being pushed back to month of May. Have any of the troopers heard anything regarding this?

[RGratton]

Like I said on the other forum, not what I wanted to hear. We have to look at the positive side though, more time to get into shape. I was literally counting the days but I stopped that because it will make it seem like a longer time. Just remember, we

[Trooper4985]

Rumors floating around about the academy possibly being pushed back to month of May. Have any of the troopers heard anything regarding this?

Read a teletype that mentioned anticipated class in May 06.

[RGratton]

A trooper on another message board said that he heard the start date for the spring class is May 8th. At least it is early in the month (I was worried that it would end up being the last week of May!).

[Troophopeful]

RGratton,

I'm with you, fingers crossed.

A trooper on another message board said that the he heard the start date for the spring class is May 8th. At least it is early in the month (I was worried that it would end up being the last week of May!).

[Knott333]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :d

[wannabeenytrp]

If it is May 8th you will be showing up on the 7th...

[fusionetworks]

Hello, gentlemen. I recently stumbled upon the forum and have enjoyed reading through this post. I have wanted to be a trooper for quite a few years now and will be finishing up college this May. I plan on taking the next test available (april 07 it looks like). However, I was wondering if it would benefit me to get a local badge for experience. I've heard mixed reviews on this subject. Some say that you are blue through and that troopers look down on local cops thinking they are better. I don't have a clue if this is true or not. Any current SP's have any suggestions for me? Thanks a lot.

Fingers a crossed for my placement in the time to come!

[SlowDownThere]

Some say that you are blue through and that troopers look down on local cops thinking they are better. I don't have a clue if this is true or not. Any current SP's have any suggestions for me? Thanks a lot.

That's bull shot.
Probably half of the Troopers worked as cops elsewhere prior to being hired by the SP. I'm not saying nobody thinks that way, but it's not prevalent.

Either way, that should not be what you base your decision on, not at all.

[fusionetworks]

I'm planning on getting a local badge just because experience is great to have. Was just wondering some opinions and if that truly was the case. Thanks for the reply.

[golfpro]

Hey Guys, in response to getting a local badge first, do what you want but there is one problem I see with that. Once you get that local badge a year down the road and the troopers call you when your only 3 months out of academy, do you want to go to academy for another 6 months. Sure the pay is worth it along with working as a trooper, but you just spent a year of your life in academy, doesnt sound fun.

[fusionetworks]

Academy time doesn't bother me, the more training the better. (1*) I just want to do everything possible to help my chances at becoming an SP.

[RGratton]

I would say just apply everywhere and take what comes your way. If something better comes along, jump ship! If police work is your passion, you can find it at the local, county, and state level. I think it is pretty easy to lateral between most departments once you are certified. However, like golfpro says, you would have to go through the academy again for the state police.

You can still join the state police even without prior experience as a police officer. From what others have said, even some officers aren

[Troophopeful]

I wonder how the folks taking the pat this weekend are doing? Would be interesting to know how many actually showed up from the #'s that were invited.

[Trooper4985]

I wonder how the folks taking the pat this weekend are doing? Would be interesting to know how many actually showed up from the #'s that were invited.

I know one who didn't go. Damdest thing happened last weekend... First he was doing 79/55 and then when asked how much he had had to drink... he said "Nothing, I'm just trying to get home", after some more questioning, he changed his story to 2 beers. Knowing the Draeger is the best of the best in breath test instruments, I know it wasn't an error when it came up a .16 BAC. After I showed him the .16, he maintained that he had 2 beers then said, "So, I probably shouldn't waste my money going to Albany next weekend then right?" I laughed to myself then politely said "That's up to you, I doubt you'd make it through the background but you can try".

If he had been honest about how much he had from the beginning (or even after I showed him is BAC) I might have felt a little bad for him but he already has displayed integrity issues so I don't want him working with me.

[RGratton]

Wow

[Troophopeful]

Damb....damb....damb.....I am speachless on this one. He shipwrecked his own l.e. Career by not exercising a bit of self-control.

I know one who didn't go. Damdest thing happened last weekend... First he was doing 79/55 and then when asked how much he had had to drink... he said "Nothing, I'm just trying to get home", after some more questioning, he changed his story to 2 beers. Knowing the Draeger is the best of the best in breath test instruments, I know it wasn't an error when it came up a .16 BAC. After I showed him the .16, he maintained that he had 2 beers then said, "So, I probably shouldn't waste my money going to Albany next weekend then right?" I laughed to myself then politely said "That's up to you, I doubt you'd make it through the background but you can try".

If he had been honest about how much he had from the beginning (or even after I showed him is BAC) I might have felt a little bad for him but he already has displayed integrity issues so I don't want him working with me.

[Trooper4985]

Damb....damb....damb.....I am speachless on this one. He shipwrecked his own l.e. Career by not exercising a bit of self-control.

If he wasn't 27 I'd say he had a chance at pleaing to a DWAI and maybe getting in but he'll be too old before I think they would allow him to restart the process. There are guys on the job who got AI's when they were young. Again... if he hadn't lied about how much he had... I have felt bad but not if he lies.

He mentioned something about going to Nevada and trying to get into a PD out there.

[arcop223]

I am in the 1300 on the list, but had to differ due to military obligation, any one no what will be coming for 2007.

[Trooper4985]

I am in the 1300 on the list, but had to differ due to military obligation, any one no what will be coming for 2007.

What are you asking? When the next class will be? There should be another class in late 2006 and depending on how far they are through the list there is talk that there might be another test in '07 which would mean you would either have to enter the last class off the current list or re-test.

[SlowDownThere]

I am in the 1300 on the list, but had to differ due to military obligation, any one no what will be coming for 2007.


Probably a class in the Spring of 2006 and the fall of 2006.

Generally, there are two classes a year. When will the military let you out?
Will they let you out early?

[arcop223]

I don

[wannabeenytrp]

[QUOTE=arcop223]I don

[arcop223]

I know. I will actully 36 when i get out, but I'm on the list, so they won't DQ me for age, unless they test again.

[SlowDownThere]

Trooper4895, what a hard azz! Couldn't you cut him some slack, I mean jeez, he's practically family. :D











I hope you can tell I'm joking.

[GoldBadge]

There certainly wasn't any shortage of NYS troopers on the NY State Thruway when I drove up it this past Tuesday. There must have been at least a dozen patrol cars on stops between the Tappan Zee and Albany.

[RGratton]

Trooper4895, what a hard azz! Couldn't you cut him some slack, I mean jeez, he's practically family. :D

And you say you have trouble with humor ;)

[Trooper4985]

Trooper4895, what a hard azz! Couldn't you cut him some slack, I mean jeez, he's practically family. :D

I hope you can tell I'm joking.

Come on Sarge... You're only a couple of barracks away... you guys haven't heard... I'll arrest my own grandmother ;)


[QUOTE=arcop223]I don

[Holltim4103]

You would probably have no problem doing palace chase if you switched over to one of the NY National Guard units. Once with the guard, they will be extremely flexible with the academy.

Here is a link to get the ball rolling for you. You may need to access it from a military computer though...

http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/retsep/start.htm

It has all the forms, intructions, FAQ section and other information...

[arcop223]

As to getting out early, well as soon a congress approves it, my MOS (MP) is in high demand, no one gets out early, h#$%, your lucky to get out at all. As to the age, I work with 50+ year olds now, that out run, and out bench me, age is a state of mind, and it will only beat you, when you let it. I

[Holltim4103]

That sure changes things... I was Air Force SP so the only thing that impacted us was "stop loss" after Sept 11th. Once that was lifted some of the guys switched over under palace chase to the reserves and the guard to pursue civilian LE jobs.

Good luck and thank you for serving our country!

[RGratton]

Looks like Division and the NYSP Investigators Association are fighting over who does the background investigations.

Here are a few excerpts taken from www.nyspia.org:

[SlowDownThere]

Isn't that site password protected? It should be.

Don't draw too many conclusions from what you read there.

[RGratton]

Their site is not password protected. However, I can remove my post if you would like me to.

I have no allegiances and I don

[SlowDownThere]

[QUOTE=RGratton]Their site is not password protected. However, I can remove my post if you would like me to.

I have no allegiances and I don

[SlowDownThere]

BTW, I highly doubt that you will see uniform Troopers conducting background investigations. Highly doubt it.

[Ranter64]

I just got a court summons today because the license on my dog has expired. (Error on my part) The slip up was that my girlfriend and I were going to change the license to her name becasue she already has one dog in her name. Of course I will get it taken care of, but am I screwed now? Do I tell my BI? Personally I think the reason it went to a court summons so fast is because the dog is an American Staffordshire mix. And help would be great. :(

[wannabeenytrp]

Old Post (http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=343849#post343849) <--Do you still feel this way about the NYSP?

Your background is already complete. I would tell my BI as that way it doesn't look like you are trying to hide anything.

You didn't think we forgot about that one post do you? :rolleyes:

[SlowDownThere]

I've never seen anyone get DQ'd over an expired dog license. I hope that doesn't make me a jackazz. :mad:


Good catch wannabenysp. :)

[Ranter64]

05-16-2005, 09:16 AM #16
Ranter64

I do have the highest respect for Troopers, that is why I am trying to become one. All of the Troopers I have ever met have been very nice and supportive of my career path. But I was just asking a question based upon many posts I have read from other officers on this site about their dealings with State Police from all states not just New York. And personally the posts I read from one Trooper who was at one time banned from this site were mainly inflamatory towards any office that did not drive a "blue and gold". I asked that question because I have respect for all police not just the NYSP.

I explained myself before and again I very much respect the NYSP but at the time some people were going very hardcore w/ insults concerning other agencies and I just was concerened about animostiy. In retrospect I was trying to be funny and ask a question when in reality I should have kept my piehole shut. :o

[SlowDownThere]

I wasn't a member of O.com back when you made your post (04/05), otherwise, I'm sure I would have remembered it. And I don't know which Trooper was being refered to in that thread. I guess it doesn't matter.

But a funny thing happened at work today. One of our investigators was mentioning how he may have to do a supplemental for a BI, because he found out about a summons over a dog license. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, otherwise you will be training at my station.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[RGratton]

Do new troopers get to do their FTO period anywhere that they want, or does everyone train at their home station if possible, or is it a request and then assignment type deal like with

[2xvet]

That's a great question RGratton.. How does the placement process work after you get out of the Academy? Can anyone help us with this question??
It would be really appreciated..

[QUOTE=RGratton]Do new troopers get to do their FTO period anywhere that they want, or does everyone train at their home station if possible, or is it a request and then assignment type deal like with

[SlowDownThere]

I'm no longer an FTO, since we don't allow NCO's to be FTOs, but I was one for many years. Upon graduation, everyone is assigned a "training troop" that is usually close to home. We make every effort to get people close to home for that 12 week period, but it doesn't always work out for everyone.

Upon succesful completion of the FTO training, they are assigned a "permanent troop." It's odd that we call it permanent, because people are able to transfer out ususally after six months, and begin to work their way to where they actually want to live.

[2xvet]

I'm curious if anyone heard anything about the Academy Starting on a different date then previously posted (May 8th)?

What should someone expect the first few weeks of the Academy? Any advise?

[Trooper4985]

What should someone expect the first few weeks of the Academy? Any advise?

Buy a dictionary for one. We can't tell you what to expect at the academy... that takes away from the whole academy experience. Lets just put it this way... if you are easily offended or can't handle having to make snap decisions under constant stress... it's going to be an eye opener and quite possibly a back breaker. A guy 4 ahead of me in line was in the building for all of about 30 seconds I figure... he walked in when it was his turn... did something that was addressed by an ATO in a loud voice about 6 inches from the recruits face and he promptly turned around and walked back to the parkinglot. We lost 3 people before everyone was even done in processing. By the end of the week we were down about 15 that were backfilled.

[2xvet]

Well thanks for the advise. (Dictionary?? :confused: )
It was a ray of sunshine. All of us will benefit from your wisdom and genuine insight.. :) I guess if you tried to help us out, it would take all the fun out of it... You will be surprised what most of us could endure, and have endured. If it's like you say, it sounds like fun...

After syaing you can't give us advise, you ended up doing so anyway, thank you...


Buy a dictionary for one. We can't tell you what to expect at the academy... that takes away from the whole academy experience. Lets just put it this way... if you are easily offended or can't handle having to make snap decisions under constant stress... it's going to be an eye opener and quite possibly a back breaker. A guy 4 ahead of me in line was in the building for all of about 30 seconds I figure... he walked in when it was his turn... did something that was addressed by an ATO in a loud voice about 6 inches from the recruits face and he promptly turned around and walked back to the parkinglot. We lost 3 people before everyone was even done in processing. By the end of the week we were down about 15 that were backfilled.

[wannabeenytrp]

[QUOTE=2xvet]Well thanks for the advise. :confused:
QUOTE]

The best advice! It is advice...

The first 2 to quit from my session were prior military and prior LE. I am sure they had endured a lot in their past too :p

Having said that, I am sure everyone on these boards will do fine. Most have been on here for a while and it is obvious they want it bad enough.

Good luck to all those waiting for the medical invite. It must be any day now.

[SlowDownThere]

I'm curious if anyone heard anything about the Academy Starting on a different date then previously posted (May 8th)?

What should someone expect the first few weeks of the Academy? Any advise?

And wear clean underwear. You never know.

[Troophopeful]

I see the funny bug is spreading on O.Com :D

And wear clean underwear. You never know.

[SlowDownThere]

I see the funny bug is spreading on O.Com :D

Funny? Me? Whattaya mean?

[RGratton]

Funny? Me? Whattaya mean?

Must be your avatar... instantly makes everything funny ;)

[Troophopeful]

RGRATTON,

You hit the bullseye (couldnt have said it better myself). :D :D

Must be your avatar... instantly makes everything funny ;)

[2xvet]

It's all about determination and if you want it bad enough, you'll make it. A couple friends of mine are Troopers, and they loved the academy. They said there is always a select few who don't make it, either have seperation anxiety, or authority issues, and just don't want it bad enough and get DQ'd or quit. Your right, everyone here has been around a while, and the determination factor is definately there...

Not all prior military had it tough in the military.. Can't compare a Yomen to Grunt, or a combat vet to a finance clerk. So your right, in this case, I can see a prior military candidate getting booted or giving up if they can't handle the training stress. Do a couple tours in Iraq with a marine infantry unit and then we can talk about the meaning of a bad and stress filled day....



[QUOTE=2xvet]Well thanks for the advise. :confused:
QUOTE]

The best advice! It is advice...

The first 2 to quit from my session were prior military and prior LE. I am sure they had endured a lot in their past too :p

Having said that, I am sure everyone on these boards will do fine. Most have been on here for a while and it is obvious they want it bad enough.

Good luck to all those waiting for the medical invite. It must be any day now.

[wannabeenytrp]

A couple friends of mine are Troopers, and they loved the academy.

[QUOTE=wannabeenytrp]

Loving the academy?!?! I have never met a Trooper who said they loved the academy; in fact, most of the outside staff mentioned how they still get creeped out while walking through the academy.

Looking back people laugh about dumb stuff some idiots did, or whatever. Also, there will be moments that are funny or somewhat enjoyable in the academy, but no one loved the academy in my class.

Make sure you post on this thread how much you love the academy at the end of week 5... :D Knowing you still have 21 more weeks of loving academy life to go...

[wannabeenytrp]

Loving the academy?!?! I have never met a Trooper who said they loved the academy; in fact, most of the outside staff mentioned how they still get creeped out while walking through the academy.

Looking back people laugh about dumb stuff some idiots did, or whatever. Also, there will be moments that are funny or somewhat enjoyable in the academy, but no one loved the academy in my class (that I am aware of).

Make sure you post on this thread how much you love the academy at the end of week 5... :D Knowing you still have 21 more weeks of loving academy life to go...

[ME1998]

my condolences go out to the members of the NYSP

[SlowDownThere]

my condolences go out to the members of the NYSP


On behalf of all of the NYSP, I thank you for your condolences.

And I thank all the kind people who have PM'd me. Your thoughts and prayers are truely appreciated.

[Troophopeful]

Thanks to RGratton for pointing this out, the NYSP now has a newsletter to keep candidates up to date on what is happening as far as hiring and processing is concern. The view the newsletter click the link below

http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/Employment/Trooper%5FEmployment/NYS%5FTrooper%5FCandidate%5FNewsletter/newsletter03-06.pdf

[2xvet]

The newsletter is great, thank you for sharing..

Thanks to RGratton for pointing this out, the NYSP now has a newsletter to keep candidates up to date on what is happening as far as hiring and processing is concern. The view the newsletter click the link below

http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/Employment/Trooper%5FEmployment/NYS%5FTrooper%5FCandidate%5FNewsletter/newsletter03-06.pdf

[Trooper4985]

I heard that day right from Superintendent Bennett's mouth yesterday at the funeral.

[Troophopeful]

Thanks for the confirmation Trooper. We should be hearing something soon about the meds.

I heard that day right from Superintendent Bennett's mouth yesterday at the funeral.

[Rkoz325]

I am a new member but i have been following the posts for quite some time and i know that there are some very knowledgable people out there on the subjects discussed. So , now i pose my question; rather a dilemma. I have just recieved a letter of disqualification for the position of state trooper. The letter does not give and specifics, nor does it give and infromation on how to get the details of my disqualification and if i can appeal it. The bottom line is: does anyone know how i can find out why i got disqualified?, Can i appeal it?, How do i go about appealing it?

Any information is greatly appreciated
Thank you,
Rick

[wannabeenytrp]

I am a new member but i have been following the posts for quite some time and i know that there are some very knowledgable people out there on the subjects discussed. So , now i pose my question; rather a dilemma. I have just recieved a letter of disqualification for the position of state trooper. The letter does not give and specifics, nor does it give and infromation on how to get the details of my disqualification and if i can appeal it. The bottom line is: does anyone know how i can find out why i got disqualified?, Can i appeal it?, How do i go about appealing it?

Any information is greatly appreciated
Thank you,
Rick


Rick, I am sorry to hear you were D'qed. The letter used to say whether you were disqualified from this current process or you were disqualified permanently. I am thinking if this is the last time you can apply because of your age it may not say either of those.

Either way, to the best of my knowledge they won't say why you were d'qed or give you a reason. Most people have an idea themselves.

On a brighter note for everyone else, this means the medical letters should be sent out any day now...

best of luck everyone.


When did you receive the letter?

[Rkoz325]

I recieved the letter last week around 2/27. My Bi doesent even have an idea why i was dqed he gave me a phone number to request that information.
Thanks
Rick

[Rkoz325]

Also, I am about to turn 25 this month so if allowed i believe i will still be young enough to take one more test.

[golfpro]

i also got dq'ed last week. I contacted my BI and he told me that most everyone who attempts to appeal are unsuccessful. I'm only 23 but during my background investigation I was told by my BI to put off any other job offers because he really thought I was going to get the job. My BI was as surprised as I was. He had no idea why I was denied and even went as far to tell me that my background was one of the best he has seen. I guess the only good thing is that I hear the test will be offered again in 2007, and the process the second time around is not as harsh.

[Troophopeful]

Thats rough, sorry to hear about the dq GP.


i also got dq'ed last week. I contacted my BI and he told me that most everyone who attempts to appeal are unsuccessful. I'm only 23 but during my background investigation I was told by my BI to put off any other job offers because he really thought I was going to get the job. My BI was as surprised as I was. He had no idea why I was denied and even went as far to tell me that my background was one of the best he has seen. I guess the only good thing is that I hear the test will be offered again in 2007, and the process the second time around is not as harsh.

[RGratton]

Sorry about the disqualifications, at least you can both take the test again. Be sure to take the NY Civil Service test that is usually given every December too.

Someone on another forum got their medical invite today. The rest of us still waiting should get something soon.

[WishIKnew]

yeah I'll be waiting for the mailman on monday/tuesday.

[Troophopeful]

Wishiknew............Ditto.

yeah I'll be waiting for the mailman on monday/tuesday.

[Troophopeful]

Do any of you have tattoo's (neck, arm below the elbow....)? I ask because I have heard that a few have been disqual due to having visible tattoo's. The NYSP has adopted the policy below:

To qualify as a trooper with the New York State Police you:

Must comply with New York State Police policy which requires all members to present a neat and professional appearance at all times. Tattoos, brands, body piercings and other body art shall not be visible while a member is in uniform or other business attire. The uniform includes a short sleeve shirt open at the front of the neck. In addition to visibility, some tattoos or brands may have symbolic meanings that are inconsistent with the values of the New York State Police.


If this is the case then one has the option of removing their tats before any future processing.

[RGratton]

Yay, I got my invitation to the medical exam! :D

Have to be there bright and early on Saturday, April 8th at 7:30 A.M., so I

[Troophopeful]

Rgratton,

Wow, you guys get the mail early in your part of town. Congrats man.
As for me, i wont be able to check the mail until later on this evening :(

[mike the marine]

Never got my mail that early!!!!! I get mine at 6:00 PM. You guys got my heart beating faster then it should.

[SlowDownThere]

Never got my mail that early!!!!! I get mine at 6:00 PM. You guys got my heart beating faster then it should.

Good luck guys. I remember how it felt, the anticipation.

While I no longer get queasy walking through the academy, I DO remember it as being - not so much hard - as a pain in the posterior. I couldn't wait to get out and start living again.

And then the next 20 years can fly right by. Believe me.

[Troophopeful]

I bet recruits usually can't wait till fridays and dread heading back on sundays :D





Good luck guys. I remember how it felt, the anticipation.

While I no longer get queasy walking through the academy, I DO remember it as being - not so much hard - as a pain in the posterior. I couldn't wait to get out and start living again.

And then the next 20 years can fly right by. Believe me.

[Ranter64]

I got my letter as well today. Now just to keep with the sit-ups and push-ups and see if I can lose a couple more lbs. Also I can't forget running and any other body weight exercise I can think of. :D

[RGratton]

Congrats Ranter64.

I heard about some of the things they make you do if you mess up at all while you aren

[Troophopeful]

One has to wait for an official academy acceptance letter which is sent after the medicals. After looking at past threads, most receive their invites about 5 business days after the final physical.

Congrats Ranter64.

I heard about some of the things they make you do if you mess up at all while you aren’t at the academy… funny for everyone else, completely humiliating for you! Heheh.

To be officially accepted to the academy, does everyone have to wait for another round of letters after the medical or will some know as soon as it is over?

[SlowDownThere]

They won't all go out at once either. So don't get dissapointed if you hear about someone getting a letter and you haven't.

If they want to fill 250 spot, they will send out 250 letters. Then, after counting the no-replies and the declines, they will send out more. This may go on for 3 or 4 rounds. So don't get dissapointed.

[wannabeenytrp]

They won't all go out at once either. So don't get dissapointed if you hear about someone getting a letter and you haven't.

.

Also, some people who are high on the list may get called for the medical but still may not get a letter of acceptance. It sucks that they have to wait 6-7 months, get their background updated and go through the medical again...

Congrats everyone and best of luck. Almost there...

[Troophopeful]

Nothing in the mail today :rolleyes:

Congrats to all you folks who received the yellow envelopes! I'll go for a run now :D

[Trooper4985]

I bet recruits usually can't wait till fridays and dread heading back on sundays :D

Just because it's 5pm Friday doesn't mean you're done :eek: I wont spoil the "fun" of the academy but I was still in Albany at 7pm a coulple of Fridays.

[Ferraranj]

Got my letter yesterday. So I'll be spending my birthday up there, hopefully it will be a happy one. Congrads to everyone else who got a letter and we are almost there.

[Troophopeful]

Whatever it may be, i'm sure it will be fun j/k

Just because it's 5pm Friday doesn't mean you're done :eek: I wont spoil the "fun" of the academy but I was still in Albany at 7pm a coulple of Fridays.

[mike the marine]

Got my letter Monday. It says we will take a modified PAT consisting of push-ups, and sit-ups. No run I'm assuming? Not as I expected.

[Troophopeful]

Congrats Mike and Ferraranj (and you were worried about that ticket).

There is no run during the medical.

[2xvet]

I received my Medical Letter yesterday as well. See you all soon.. Keep training...

[RGratton]

Read on another message board that it is going to be a class of 290 going in, which is absolutely massive. Has anyone else heard the same?

[Trooper4985]

Read on another message board that it is going to be a class of 290 going in, which is absolutely massive. Has anyone else heard the same?

6 to a quad sucks... better hope your class thins out like they are planning on. There is barely enough time between PT and first breakfast for 4 guys to get ready let alone 6.

[Troophopeful]

The more the merrier ;)

[Trooper4985]

The more the merrier ;)

I suppose... if you like brushing your teeth while one of your quadmates is on the crapper 3 feet behind you emptying his intestines of that nasty academy food. :D

[Troophopeful]

Nasty............... :D

I suppose... if you like brushing your teeth while one of your quadmates is on the crapper 3 feet behind you emptying his intestines of that nasty academy food. :D

[RGratton]

All of my roommates will get a free colostomy bag from me as a welcoming present.

Have a happy St. Patrick's Day everyone. I'll be spending it running and doing pushups.

[mike the marine]

Hey! If your squared away, easier to stay under the radar! The way I see it, 100 candidates, 290 candidates, or 500 candidates, get me in NOW!!!!! I DON"T CARE! Let's get it moving.

[SlowDownThere]

Gawd, I'm glad I don't have to do that over again. All this talk of starting the academy makes me repeat my favorite saying.

"I'm glad I'm a lot closer to the end of my career than the beginning."

[2xvet]

If anyone wants to try an awesome workout routine designed just for Military and Academy PFT's? Try StewSmith.com, or give me a PM with a good email address and I can email it to you. (it's a free 19 page, 6-wk running program offered on his web site so there is no copyright issues.) If you take the time out and follow the program, it has pretty amazing results.

[Trooper4985]

If anyone wants to try an awesome workout routine designed just for Military and Academy PFT's? Try StewSmith.com, or give me a PM with a good email address and I can email it to you. (it's a free 19 page, 6-wk running program offered on his web site so there is no copyright issues.) If you take the time out and follow the program, it has pretty amazing results.

He's the PT you should all be doing before you go because it's what you are going to be doing every morning when you get there. At least that was the PT when I was there and that is the PT the junior guys in the station talk about.

25 Jumping Jack
25 Pushups
25 Situps
25 Pushups
25 Mountain Climbers
25 Squat Thrusts
25 Pushups
3.2 mile run

That's a PT session if the class didn't screw up the day before.

[wannabeenytrp]

He's the PT you should all be doing before you go because it's what you are going to be doing every morning when you get there. At least that was the PT when I was there and that is the PT the junior guys in the station talk about.

25 Jumping Jack
25 Pushups
25 Situps
25 Pushups
25 Mountain Climbers
25 Squat Thrusts
25 Pushups
3.2 mile run

That's a PT session if the class didn't screw up the day before.

Of course by the time you get to the Mountain climbers you will have actually done well over 100+ pushups. Get used to staying in the upright position and holding yourself approximately an inch from the floor :p

192nd will be graduating in 8 days I believe...

[RGratton]

Thanks for the tips. I'm adding some mountain climbers, squat thrusts, and jumping jacks to my routine this week. Do you partner up for the sit-ups or do them on your own? I'm used hooking my feet under something and doing them.

[Trooper4985]

Thanks for the tips. I'm adding some mountain climbers, squat thrusts, and jumping jacks to my routine this week. Do you partner up for the sit-ups or do them on your own? I'm used hooking my feet under something and doing them.

Get used to doing them by yourself... you will be amazed at how many you can do with someone holding your feet once you can do 25 without someone holding your feet.

[Trooper4985]

Thanks for the tips. I'm adding some mountain climbers, squat thrusts, and jumping jacks to my routine this week. Do you partner up for the sit-ups or do them on your own? I'm used hooking my feet under something and doing them.

Get used to doing them by yourself... you will be amazed at how many you can do with someone holding your feet once you can do 25 without someone holding your feet.

192nd will be graduating in 8 days I believe...

I believe you are correct... It will be good to see some new faces on the road... My station is 6 short between both platoons, zone wide I think the number is 9. No way we are getting that many next transfer though. Can't complain though... it just means more OT for me... 18 hours in the last 2 days :D

[RGratton]

Get used to doing them by yourself... you will be amazed at how many you can do with someone holding your feet once you can do 25 without someone holding your feet.

Will do, I'll practice my sit-up technique without anyone holding my feet. Here is my current routine, each of these done 3x a week on staggered days. I just added the mountain climbers, squat thrusts, and jumping jacks.

800 pushups, some with hands in close and some with hands far out.
800 sit-ups
7 mile run
dumbbells (just for fun)
25 squat thrusts
50 jumping jacks
50 mountain clumbers

[SlowDownThere]

Trooper4985:

Don't give away all the secrets. Or I'll have to go Albany and teach a few classes myself, just to screw with the new guys.

Ah, never mind. Go ahead. I'm going to do that anyways. :D

[2xvet]

Trooper4985:

Don't give away all the secrets. Or I'll have to go Albany and teach a few classes myself, just to screw with the new guys.

Ah, never mind. Go ahead. I'm going to do that anyways. :D


Thanks everyone for all the info, we all appreciate your sharing. A little "heads-up" is always beneficial. :)

[Trooper4985]

Trooper4985:

Don't give away all the secrets. Or I'll have to go Albany and teach a few classes myself, just to screw with the new guys.

Ah, never mind. Go ahead. I'm going to do that anyways. :D

Come on Sarge... There are 23 more hours in the day that they have to guess what will happen next :D

[RGratton]

By this point, we're all too gung ho to worry about what they are going to do to us physically and mentally :) And memories can always be suppressed once graduation is over.

There seems to be a pretty high success rate among people that are active on the message boards and that subsequently go into the academy. I think it is because everyone that comes here on a daily basis wants it so bad. Of course, a reminder to everyone expecting to go in, be careful about what you say about the academy while you are in it.

[troopx]

Quick question.
I received an invitation to the Med exam (April 8th)
should assume that a BI results/decision was taken? My BI was completed 2 weeks before I got the invitation. I dont see how the BI review would take longer than 2 weeks. Im still going to the Med Exam and I have continued doing some PT training. thanks for any answer.

[Trooper4985]

Quick question.
I received an invitation to the Med exam (April 8th)
should assume that a BI results/decision was taken? My BI was completed 2 weeks before I got the invitation. I dont see how the BI review would take longer than 2 weeks. Im still going to the Med Exam and I have continued doing some PT training. thanks for any answer.

If you recieved an invite to the final med... you recieved an invite... doesn't mean you are definately going to be offered an appointment to the academy but the odds are pretty good in your favor. When I went to my final medical... we all had the same questions you guys are asking but this forum was not nearly as popular 4 years ago like it is now. We were asking the questions of Troopers who were running the medical... a Lt. told us that if we were there for the final medical that we were more than likely going to recieve an appointment barring any medical DQ's.

That being said... start talking to the guys/girls you meet at medical processing and start thinking with a team mindset. Each Troop will hold a meeting with the recruiter for all recruits who recieve appointments, a couple of weeks before the academy starts, to answer some questions and give you an opportunity to start thinking about carpool groups and things like that. Carpooling is not required but it is one hell of a team builder... you spend the trip studying and developing friendships that will go on past the academy even if you are stationed on opposite sides of the state.

About decision time... there is no telling... We are strapped statewide for manning. I can't imagine that Albany is any diffrent.

[troopx]

Thanks for the guidance. I had a question about the PT/med exam.
Does anyone know the specifics about the PT? what is required etc.

Also, does anyone know if requests for deferrals are accepted at this point or after an appointment is tendered? (assuming that there is a valid justification for it)

--
The first time I went to Albany, they said something like, you need x number to pass and some guys would just get to that number and get up. I thought that just performing the minimum required would sent the wrong message to the cadre. My advice would be to do as many as you can.

[SlowDownThere]

Thanks for the guidance. I had a question about the PT/med exam.
Does anyone know the specifics about the PT? what is required etc.

Also, does anyone know if requests for deferrals are accepted at this point or after an appointment is tendered? (assuming that there is a valid justification for it)

--
The first time I went to Albany, they said something like, you need x number to pass and some guys would just get to that number and get up. I thought that just performing the minimum required would sent the wrong message to the cadre. My advice would be to do as many as you can.

First, the PT is pass/fail. While it might send the wrong messege, it won't keep you out. The same guys might remember you, however, when it come to starting the academy. So I wouldn't suggest it. I don't know just what counts as passing, it's been a while for me.

Second, they are quite liberal with deferals. If you give them a valid reason, they will probably grant it. Valid reasons might be: Can't get out of the military in time, need another month to finish my degree, my wife is having a difficult pregenency, etc. Why do you want a deferal? If it's personal and you don't want to post it, I'll understand. You can either PM if you want.

[Troophopeful]

Age Group: 20-29
Sit-ups 40
Push-ups 33
No running during med

Age Group: 30-39
Sit-ups 36
Push-ups 27

[RGratton]

How is everyone holding up? There is only six more weeks to go after today and two weeks until the medical exam. I reread the entire NYSP thread on R eal P olice to pick up any pointers that I may have missed or forgotten. By the way, don't stay at the Red Carpet if anyone is going a day early for the medical. I stayed there for the processing weekend last year, and it was a real hole (broken bathroom door, broken ice machine that flooded the hall carpet, loud elevator right next to my room, barely working cable TV, and something had obviously died somewhere in the lobby).

[Trooper4985]

How is everyone holding up? There is only six more weeks to go after today and two weeks until the medical exam. I reread the entire NYSP thread on R eal P olice to pick up any pointers that I may have missed or forgotten. By the way, don't stay at the Red Carpet if anyone is going a day early for the medical. I stayed there for the processing weekend last year, and it was a real hole (broken bathroom door, broken ice machine that flooded the hall carpet, loud elevator right next to my room, barely working cable TV, and something had obviously died somewhere in the lobby).

Ah yes... The Red Carpet... What a fine establishment. I stayed there by accident for my processing too... it was late when I was reserving rooms... I was thinking about the Red Roof.

[Ranter64]

I stayed at the one in Niagara Falls Canada thinking I had gotten a room at the red roof inn. But not to fear the one in Canada is a whole just the same. I stayed at the Fairfield Inn last March because it was across the street from the academy. I also took alot of fruit from the breakfast to eat during the PAT day. ;)

[SlowDownThere]

How is everyone holding up?

Hey, I'm holding up fairly well. Thanks for asking. :)












Oh, you weren't asking me, were you? ;)

[jackbenes]

How many nights will have to pass at the jam-packed academy before we're dreaming of a nice relaxing evening at the Red Carpet Inn? I'd set the over/under at one if I were a gambler.

[RGratton]

Hey, I'm holding up fairly well. Thanks for asking. :)
Oh, you weren't asking me, were you? ;)

No, but I'm always glad to hear from you too :)

It looks like the Investigators have a pretty decent new contract. Congratulations to them. I don't think it will affect the class size a lot like the other one seemed to do.

[WishIKnew]

this is the budgeted fill level, see you guys on the 8th.

[RGratton]

Even 263 is a huge class… I wonder if the 290 that someone else mentioned is the result of front-loading. I'm sure that all of us here will survive. See everyone on the 8th.

[wannabeenytrp]

Congrats to the 192nd who graduated today!

I stayed at the Extended stay. Decent prices and they have that small kitchenette thingy too...

[Troophopeful]

Another congrats to session 192, you guys made it, good job.

[Troophopeful]

So are you folks ready???? 9 days to rock and roll :D

[SlowDownThere]

So are you folks ready???? 9 days to rock and roll :D


I'm a little apprehensive, but I think I'll be ready. :)


















Oh, you weren't talking to me, we you? ;)

[troopx]

are we having 263 invites to the medical? or the number is going to be higher justin case.

should we go ahead and quit our jobs

[Troophopeful]

I'm a little apprehensive, but I think I'll be ready. :)


















Oh, you weren't talking to me, we you? ;)

SDT,

Don't be a clown :D
J/K

[Troophopeful]

Like the letter says, dont quit your job until an offer is made to you, its not over till its over.

are we having 263 invites to the medical? or the number is going to be higher justin case.

should we go ahead and quit our jobs

[Troophopeful]

Double post.

[cdecker]

Congrats to the 192nd who graduated today!

I stayed at the Extended stay. Decent prices and they have that small kitchenette thingy too...


Anyone know how many graduated Monday?

[RGratton]

Anyone know how many graduated Monday?

Ninety-three graduated.

[Trooper4985]

Congrats to all who got appointments to the academy... there are lots of people who wish they were in your shoes. Keep the enthusiasm up through the academy... No matter how much the thought of going back Sunday night sucks... what you will feel every time you see a Blue and Gold will be much worse if you quit. And for those of you with girlfriends/boyfriends wives/husbands... If the NYSP is what you want... be prepared to be single by the time you graduate... Not trying to be be harsh... just realistic. Several guys and girls I went through with were either single before we graduated or shortly thereafter. This job is not for everyone... that includes your significant others too. It takes a diffrent kind of person to want to deal with society's trash on a daily basis and it also takes that same kinda person to be a part of a cop's life. There will always be another girlfriend or boyfriend... there is only one chance to be a Trooper.

[Troophopeful]

Trooper4987,

Thanks for talk. For many of us, it’s been a loooooong wait and I’m certain we are all looking forward to getting things started. I had spoken with a recruiter sometime ago and they said exactly what you said.....about many quitting the academy because of a non-supportive husband or wife (girlfriend or boyfriend) and a good number of these same people calling a few years down the road (after being divorced or separated) and wanting to see if they could redo the academy or get a 2nd chance at it but it was too late (due to age and the like).

[RGratton]

I spoke to a trooper a while ago and one of the first things that he asked me was if I had a girlfriend. It seems to be the consensus that it is best not to have one.

By the way, daylight savings time begins next week, which means we will be an hour closer to the academy without having to actually live through that hour :D

[mike the marine]

By the way, daylight savings time begins next week, which means we will be an hour closer to the academy without having to actually live through that hour :D

Your sick! It is true though!!!!!

[troopx]

hello All

I just got a letter uninviting me to the med exam. It says that I do no meet all the requirements. It might also come as the result of me asking for a second deferral. I called the Personnel office on Monday, and on this date they told me that they would let me know in the next few days. It was also on this date that they typed/mailed me the letter. (Was it a coincidence?) I am thinking that my request might have triggered that response. I knew I was taking my chances by calling, and in a sense, this outcome does not come as a surprise as I failed to establish the right order of priorities. I asked for a deferral, before the med exam, so that another candidate "ready for the academy" might get his/her chance to attend.

I ranked 237 on the exam. I have a near unblemished police record no drugs no drinking. On daily basis, I have been to the gym preparing for the physical/med exam, 2 weeks away from getting my Masters, 3 months after completing my tour in Abu-Ghraib Iraq. Apparently, I came up short this time. In a sense, this shows how selective is the State Police Academy, those who actually make it are those who really deserve the opportunity. I have the greatest respect for the troopers and all those who keep our society safe. It would have been an honor to serve the State.. perhaps not at this time but in the future. I am a little disappointed at myself, but with a stronger desire for self-improvement and a greater resolve to accomplish higher goals.

Thank you for the advice, and my best wishes to those attending the academy and ultimately keeping us all safe. I do not take for granted their efforts and sacrifices.

Troopx Out

[Troophopeful]

Troopx,

Wow........Sorry to hear about the bad news. Wish you the best in all your future undertakings.

[RGratton]

Sorry to hear that also. Congrats on your masters and thank you for your service to the country. Keep the positive attitude.

[Trooper4985]

I spoke to a trooper a while ago and one of the first things that he asked me was if I had a girlfriend. It seems to be the consensus that it is best not to have one.


I didn't say not to have one... just be prepared to find out that he/she can't deal with the life of a cop... Just because they aren't the one going through the academy doesn't mean it's not going to have some effect on them too.

Being single on this job can make for much fun... Not that you want anything serious from some girl who throws herself at every uniform she sees... but you can have some fun ;)

Have a good weekend and don't do anything to get yourself jammed up guys.

[2xvet]

The day is almost here, and I can't help but to feel anxious yet a bit nervous as after all this time of processing, the Medical Day is here..

I want to wish everyone Good Luck...
See you all soon.

[Troophopeful]

Less than 4 days to go till the medical............
As 2xvet says, good luck to you all.

[redzone]

I'm in upstate NY, and I was reading through the threads and a flood of memories came rushing back. Good Luck to everyone going down for the medical try to remember some faces because you will see them again real soon. Just not a bright and happy as you see them now.

If I can offer a piece of advise, Believe in yourself, believe that you can do this, this is a great job, but you have to want it. No one is going to hand this to you. There will be days when you miss your wife,kids,husbands, families etc... Your gonna have times when your roomates will **** you off, you'll be in a bad mood etc.. this is where I think being in the military helps people, military people are used to being F**ked with. Your going to see people that you think would make a great Trooper get up one day and quit. Just believe in yourself!!

take care and good luck. there a plenty of DIR's for everyone. :confused:

[manr0e]

Hello everyone! I have been following the posts for a few days, and I am excited to finally have an active account that will allow me to make my first post! Congrats to all who are on the brink of seeing their dreams and hardwork fall into place! I used to dream of a career in law enforcement...but for some reason i put the idea on a "back burner"...until recently. I have one more year of school before I get my BA, and after speaking with several Troopers and doing a great deal of reading, I have decided that it is the path I want to take. I am familiar with the selection process...but I am desperately trying to absorb as much information as possible. I would greatly appreciate any advice you could offer! The next written exam is still a long time away, so I have a good deal of time to make myself a stronger applicant. Unfortunately, I dont know what would be best! Any help would be great! Also, I had surgery 4 years ago to repair a torn ACL in my knee. My knee is fully rehabed...and i have absolutely no problems with it...but I am concerned it could result in a DQ! Does anyone know how prior injuries are handled? Sorry for the rediculously long post...but thank you all in advance for you help! Again, congrats and goodluck! :)

[Trooper4985]

Hello everyone! I have been following the posts for a few days, and I am excited to finally have an active account that will allow me to make my first post! Congrats to all who are on the brink of seeing their dreams and hardwork fall into place! I used to dream of a career in law enforcement...but for some reason i put the idea on a "back burner"...until recently. I have one more year of school before I get my BA, and after speaking with several Troopers and doing a great deal of reading, I have decided that it is the path I want to take. I am familiar with the selection process...but I am desperately trying to absorb as much information as possible. I would greatly appreciate any advice you could offer! The next written exam is still a long time away, so I have a good deal of time to make myself a stronger applicant. Unfortunately, I dont know what would be best! Any help would be great! Also, I had surgery 4 years ago to repair a torn ACL in my knee. My knee is fully rehabed...and i have absolutely no problems with it...but I am concerned it could result in a DQ! Does anyone know how prior injuries are handled? Sorry for the rediculously long post...but thank you all in advance for you help! Again, congrats and goodluck! :)

Guys have shredded themselves at the academy, been dropped for not being able to continue training and brought right back in the next academy class... I can't imagine that they would DQ you for knee surgery.

[manr0e]

deleted. thank you

[Trooper4985]

Thanks Trooper 4985! I have one more question for all of you that has me extremely concerned. I am hesitant to openly talk about it, but in my opinion...honesty is the only option. I feel strongly that a person's character and integrity (especially a Trooper's) are the among the most important qualities for defining who they truly are. With that said, I think it is more honorable to admit a mistake, take responsibility for it, and then learn from it...then to hide the mistake or lie about it. Anyway, my first year of school involved quite a bit of partying (as most do). Unfortunately, that sometimes involved marijuana...and on a couple of occasions, cocaine. I used cocaine only a few of times (3 or 4) all within a period of a few weeks. I have not used any illegal substances in nearly two years...and I don't ever plan to in the future! I have learned from my mistakes, and now spend most of my free time in the gym instead of a party. I would love to know how you all feel about it...and also, how an interviewer would feel about it! Please dont sugar-coat your responses! If i am already in a hole I cant climb out of, ill just have to accept it! Either way, I just want to know! thanks in advance... :confused:

Drug usage in itself is not an immediate DQ but there is no finite answer I can give you... It comes down to your BI and Albany. A couple of years for something like coke... I would probably say now is too soon but you have some time before the next test and processing so maybe you wont get shot down. I openly admit to smoking weed 3 times when I was in college during my junior year... that was when I was 21... I didn't process till I was 27 and I had no issues. Like you, I thought it (weed) was going to be a big deal but from what I've heard from some of the Investigators... they look at you harder if you say you never tried it because it is so prevalent in today's society and they think you are possibly lieing about drug usage.

[fusionetworks]

Here is a question that just popped into my mind. As a child I had asthma, but luckily I grew out of it completely at age 13. Haven't had a single symptom or anything since and I'm now 23. I know for military asthma is a DQ, because the USMC DQ'd me for it because I refused to lie about having it as a child. I know there are waivers to get aroud it, but I wasn't about to lie. Are the state police the same way and will they look down on my application due to the USMC DQ for asthma or the childhood asthma itself? Thanks.

[wannabeenytrp]

[QUOTE=manr0e]Unfortunately, that sometimes involved marijuana...and on a couple of occasions, cocaine. I used cocaine only a few of times (3 or 4) all within a period of a few weeks. I have not used any illegal substances in nearly two years...QUOTE]

I can almost guarantee you won't get in based on the cocaine usage. Also, the fact that there is less than 2 yrs since you used an illegal substance does not look good... I suggest you seek another line of work! Go ahead and take the exam in 2007, but I am thinking you will be knocked out really early in the process --as you should be!

Fusion: A guy in my session took a blast of his inhaler before running a 9:15 1.5 miler in the academy. His asthma didn't seem to stop im from getting hired...

[SlowDownThere]

Fusion: A guy in my session took a blast of his inhaler before running a 9:15 1.5 miler in the academy. His asthma didn't seem to stop im from getting hired...

Sounds like good information to me. If you can perform with your asthma, I don't see it knocking you out.

wannabeenytrp: "my session" ? You on the job now?
You got to change your name guy.