States without reciprocity

[SlowDownThere]

For those of you in a state that is not part of the interstate compact on driver's license reicprocity (I think there are about 8 states not in the compact), what do you guys do for non-residents?

You must take bail on all of them, right? Or do you release them with a ticket and hope they answer it? Or some of both?

[willis34]

I've been "out of the game" for 8 years, but we would try to get AAA card from them (AAA guarantees to pay bond if they don't show) or we would have them come in and post bond. (if they were totally unable to post bond we would not lock them up on a single traffic charge) Just issue cite & hope they pay.
I also came across several Canadian drivers & I didn't really know what the heck to do with them....

A strange thing in Ohio.... If you cited a juvenile from Ohio, & he plead not guilty the Juvenile Court would transfer the case to the defendants home county! I actually had to drive 3 hrs. for a kids speeding ticket once. After that disaster, (if it wasn't real serious)if the kid lived far away he got a warning.

[Bing_Oh]

Actually, there are only two states not in the compact...Michigan and Georgia (at least, I think it's Georgia...it's a southern state). I make em bond out.

The worst was an English driver who popped a red light. I was totally befuddled when he handed me his "drivers license." I couldn't have even STARTED to figure out how to complete a citation, so I gave him a warning.

[BlueFlare77]

Interesting....how does the point system work for this "interstate compact" system? Does it even actually work? How does insurance handle this?

[SeVere]

The interstate compact, is a mutual reporting compact. In IL we would take a violator's driver's license as bond after a traffic violation and the person would basically "drive on the ticket." If a person wants to keep their D.L. in their possession, they could post a cash bond or a bond card like AAA.

When a resident of an interstate compact state is cited their license is not taken but they are given the opportunity to sign the citation promising to comply with the terms of the citation (i.e. appearing in court, mailing in fines, etc.).

If a resident of a non-compact state is cited they must post bond to guarantee compliance with the terms (court appearance, etc.)

If a compact state's resident fails to comply with the terms and/or are found guilty of the offense, and a D.L. suspension is ordered, their home state will suspend their driver's license. A non-compact state will not and their license will still be valid in their state, but if they are caught driving in the original state again or another compact state, they will consider the license suspended (I believe this part to be the case, though not sure).

For example in IL, if you do not have an IL license number, one will be created for you and that number suspended.

[BlueFlare77]

The interstate compact, is a mutual reporting compact. In IL we would take a violator's driver's license as bond after a traffic violation and the person would basically "drive on the ticket." If a person wants to keep their D.L. in their possession, they could post a cash bond or a bond card like AAA.

When a resident of an interstate compact state is cited their license is not taken but they are given the opportunity to sign the citation promising to comply with the terms of the citation (i.e. appearing in court, mailing in fines, etc.).

If a resident of a non-compact state is cited they must post bond to guarantee compliance with the terms (court appearance, etc.)

If a compact state's resident fails to comply with the terms and/or are found guilty of the offense, and a D.L. suspension is ordered, their home state will suspend their driver's license. A non-compact state will not and their license will still be valid in their state, but if they are caught driving in the original state again or another compact state, they will consider the license suspended (I believe this part to be the case, though not sure).

For example in IL, if you do not have an IL license number, one will be created for you and that number suspended.

So as long as you keep posting bond and you are from a non-interstate compact state, you would always keep your license regardless of how many violations you committed outside of your home state?

Are the violations reported to insurance?

How does the "bond" compared to the fine for the same violation?

[SeVere]

So as long as you keep posting bond and you are from a non-interstate compact state, you would always keep your license regardless of how many violations you committed outside of your home state?

Are the violations reported to insurance?

How does the "bond" compared to the fine for the same violation?

See, the key is though eventually if you don't comply by coming to court etc. there will be a traffic warrant for your arrest which changes things a bit.

Yes, you could thoretically have your license suspended in a non-compact state and keep your driving privileges in your home state.

[purdinpopo]

When I worked along the eastern border of Missouri, Illinois used to issue licenses to people regardless of their status in Missouri, lots of folks (scumbags) would just move to Illinois rather than accept a DWI suspension in Missouri, but they would continue to work in Missouri, they would have a valid Illinois but suspended/revoked in Missouri, huge argument all the way to the jail, but it was fun to watch the Judge ding 'em in Court, and they would usually argue there and up with a huge fine, and a little jail time.

[BlueFlare77]

See, the key is though eventually if you don't comply by coming to court etc. there will be a traffic warrant for your arrest which changes things a bit.

Yes, you could thoretically have your license suspended in a non-compact state and keep your driving privileges in your home state.

Well, I'm not disagreeing with you. The scenario I put forth was a little different. I know in NJ you can just go onto a site and pay your traffic offense through the Internet without ever coming to court. Traffic tickets are not that costly, but insurance can be. I was wondering about how insurance for a person in a non-compact state would be affected?

[purdinpopo]

Your home state once advised of your out of state violation, will examine the charge and issue points on your license corresponding with the similar points on a similar charge in your state. points from out of state charges can end up suspending your license in your home state.

Your insurance company will do what they do depending upon their own policy and if they know about tickets you recieve, Most insurance companies are multi-state and may know about your out of state ticket before your state license office does.

Currently some states are cracking down on construction zone tickets, i have heard that some are starting at $500, not cheap in my book, here in Missouri all construction zone tickets are doubled.

[SlowDownThere]

I don't think the points transfer from one state to another. In most cases, an insurance company would not find out about an out-of-state ticket unless the motorist admits it.

Most Canadien provinces are part of the compact. I understand Utah is not, however. Is that true Utah? Can I drive again in Utah?

[squad51]

I worte a guy from GUAM a tag..my chief kicked it back but then when I explained he finnaly understood how the address worked....

[Bing_Oh]

Ah ha! Michigan and Wisconsin are the only two states without ANY compact agreement. There are some states with slightly different compact agreements, however.

Compact info:
http://www.aamva.org/drivers/drv_compactsNRVC.asp

[gotthblues]

I also came across several Canadian drivers & I didn't really know what the heck to do with them....

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*atleast in oklahoma* we had a lot of illegal hispanic drivers, big problem, no dl, no insurance, hit and runs, so on. this was a huge debate, dist judge said arrest, city judge said do not arrest, so on so on so on,, well, there was finally an agreement, i dont remember where it came from and i dang sure never found anything in the okla traffic code, BUT, we were told,

IF THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY THEN THEY HAVE PROPER DOCUMENTATION, if this is the case, then their dl from their country was valid in america, and fill out the citation the best you could,

if they hand you a "driver license" and have no paper work, then they were to be arrested.

but,,, if they are only here for a few days, or less, why bother, we cant suspend their license in canada or mexico or lithuania, so other then drunk driving, why bother, we had several large business's come in just before i left, and they were always bringing in forgeiners for a few days, they did their thing and left, next month someone new came, so whats the point.

[purdinpopo]

I don't think the points transfer from one state to another. In most cases, an insurance company would not find out about an out-of-state ticket unless the motorist admits it.



All I know is that Missouri assigns points for citations recieved out of state (if your state does not ???), and when I lived in Florida, My parents Allstate agent advised my parents of the ticket I recieved in Virginia, I sure did not tell the agent. That was in 1987, if insurance companies no longer get info from out of state, again I can only answer from my personal/professional experience, and training.

[Tim Dees]

IA strange thing in Ohio.... If you cited a juvenile from Ohio, & he plead not guilty the Juvenile Court would transfer the case to the defendants home county! I actually had to drive 3 hrs. for a kids speeding ticket once. After that disaster, (if it wasn't real serious)if the kid lived far away he got a warning.I've been out of the game for a number of years, too. However, I used to do a lot of DUI enforcement. In Nevada, if your driver's license was revoked pursuant to a DUI arrest (which 99.9% of them were), you were entitled to a hearing in your home county, regardless of where the arrest was made. I worked in Reno, and popped a university student who was from Elko, not quite on the other side of the state, but close enough. He figured that he would demand his hearing and then get his license back when I didn't show up. The hearing officer was the same one that I saw in Reno a couple of times a week. Once a month, he would go on the road and hit the northern rural counties to pick up all the hearings they had pending. What Mr. University Student didn't know is that the state had subpoenaed me, and thus it was the state's problem to see that I got to the hearing. They flew me to Elko, had a trooper pick me up at the airport and take me to the hearing office, then reversed the process at the end of the day. Mr. Student was somewhat crestfallen to see me sitting in the hearing room, waiting for him when he arrived. He, of course, had driven almost across the state for his hearing, and that was on his dime. I was on overtime the entire trip.

[purdinpopo]

Thanks Tim I got a laugh out of that, I love it, Not only did the kid re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, it was like he hired a world class decorator to decide where they would go. :)