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daud02
11-18-2005, 05:34 AM
I was curious about this because of my friend has recieved several tickets before his first year of licensing so how many tickets will it take before a license can be revoked or suspended and what are the other major violations that will revoke a license except DUI (We don't drinK) so we won't run in to that ever in our life..... :confused: :o :o

irishlad2nv
11-18-2005, 05:38 AM
That will all depend on which state you are referring too for your "friend".

Bodie
11-18-2005, 06:53 AM
Another "Friend" thread
In Ohio after 6 pts you get a warning letter after 12 pts a 1 yr suspension. Accumulate enough in a short enough time span and you could be riding a bike or burning shoe leather for a long long time.

But the financial impact of fines & court costs and HIGH insurance can keep your "FRIEND" from driving because it won't be long before your "FRIEND" can't buy gas. And tell your friend to don't think they can not pay the fine because next time they get stopped it's a free ride to jail.

Eventually a judge will get tired of seeing your "FRIEND" and give them a few days in jail to think about their driving. It just snowballs ............

LE4Life
11-18-2005, 10:49 AM
Dependant on state its different obviously. Here if you recieve even one ticket within your first year, your license is suspended for 30 days, and your 1 year starts over from the day after your 30 day suspension is up. Another violation within that one year period and you've lost your license for a year.
Check online for local laws.
Chris

Metro174
11-18-2005, 12:17 PM
In Maryland, 6 points is automatic driver improvement and warning or 30 day suspension. 9 points warning or 60 days suspended and 12 points for revocation.

explorerscout83
11-18-2005, 02:28 PM
I was curious about this because of my friend has recieved several tickets before his first year of licensing so how many tickets will it take before a license can be revoked or suspended and what are the other major violations that will revoke a license except DUI (We don't drinK) so we won't run in to that ever in our life..... :confused: :o :o


Well it all depends on how many tickets your friend has. It also depends on how many tickets your friend has gotten with in a set period of time. It also depends on how fast your friend was going. It also depends on the state your friend lives in.

daud02
11-18-2005, 03:25 PM
I'm referring/talking about the state of UT, has any one been to here, the greatest snow on earth.

Wilco5o
11-19-2005, 04:48 PM
Hey explorerscout83 are you a sworn police officer?

explorerscout83
11-19-2005, 06:50 PM
Hey explorerscout83 are you a sworn police officer?
Yes I am with the Clayton P.D.

Wilco5o
11-19-2005, 06:56 PM
I was just curious because your yahoo profile said you start the academy in Jan 06??

explorerscout83
11-19-2005, 07:12 PM
I was just curious because your yahoo profile said you start the academy in Jan 06??
Yes, the State of New Mexico allows a person to work as a police officer for one year before they have to attend the academy. The person has the same powers as a certified officer. Now if the person is not able to attend the academy for any reason then they must resign their commission.

Wilco5o
11-19-2005, 07:19 PM
I don't mean to get off the original post, but I have to ask. So you can carrry a weapon and have full arrest powers? Isn't that kinda dangerous if you don't have the proper training? I don't mean to bust your balls I am just curious, i have never hear of that before

explorerscout83
11-19-2005, 07:23 PM
I went through an FTO training. It is how New Mexico works. I don't know of any other states that are the same way, but the state of New Mexico has a hard time getting people that are willing to work as a police officer because of the fact that they don't pay for $hit. My city pays a certified officer $12.50 an hour and uncertified officers $10.33 an hour.

irishlad2nv
11-20-2005, 07:34 AM
I don't mean to get off the original post, but I have to ask. So you can carrry a weapon and have full arrest powers? Isn't that kinda dangerous if you don't have the proper training? I don't mean to bust your balls I am just curious, i have never hear of that before
Louisiana its the same way. You can have a guy out there on the streets by himself with full police powers and their only training may be from some FTO or just another Officer...now don't you think some good Defense Attorney would have a field day with that? But they do it and some don't even send their officers to an academy till they are on their 11month so that they dont lose them of they send them to the academy right off the bat. But whos to blame them when you are only going to pay someone $1200 a month to start!

Bodie
11-20-2005, 08:19 AM
Something si weird and perhaps not quite legal in New Mexico if we are to believe this kid.

explorerscout83
11-20-2005, 09:34 AM
Something si weird and perhaps not quite legal in New Mexico if we are to believe this kid.
Ok Bodie go to hell. How do you know what is going on in New Mexico? Have you ever lived there? If not then how in the hell do you know what is going on there? Oh and if you do not know what you are talking about then don't say any thing. Oh and what the hell is si?

explorerscout83
11-20-2005, 09:37 AM
Louisiana its the same way. You can have a guy out there on the streets by himself with full police powers and their only training may be from some FTO or just another Officer...now don't you think some good Defense Attorney would have a field day with that? But they do it and some don't even send their officers to an academy till they are on their 11month so that they dont lose them of they send them to the academy right off the bat. But whos to blame them when you are only going to pay someone $1200 a month to start!
Hell I was able to take and **** off a defense attorney and make her look like an idiot in court last month. Defense attorney thought I was some dumb *** that did not know what I was doing. Well guess what there defense attorney I know what I am doing and that is why your clients case got bound over to district court where he gets to answer to his charges.

t150vsuptpr
11-20-2005, 02:53 PM
I was curious about this because of my friend has recieved several tickets before his first year of licensing so how many tickets will it take before a license can be revoked or suspended and what are the other major violations that will revoke a license except DUI (We don't drinK) so we won't run in to that ever in our life.....
Go to your own state's "Division of Motor Vehicles" (or "Bureau" as it may be called) and ask for a pamplet or brochure that explains your state's point system in greater detail. Each state has it's own little quirks in this reguard, and I guess there may even be some that still don't use the points system. My state adopted it's point system January 01, 1974. Before then, there were no points, two convictions for moving violations which occurred within any 12 month period was an automatic 60 day license suspension. :)
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Something si weird and perhaps not quite legal in New Mexico ...
I believe each state set's their own standards for training and certification. Louisiana its the same way. You can have a guy out there on the streets by himself with full police powers and their only training may be from some FTO or just another Officer...
It may sound strange, but in fact, there may be others as well (I don't know as I never polled them). They may lower training standards in view of the lower salary they are willing to pay. They may delay some training. It does not mean the officer's themselves are any less motivated or less honest or less dedicated, etc ... it just means the state or community is either unwilling or unable to see their way of paying higher scale. There is also a different cost of living to consider with the different tax base.

When I was hired, I got one week at the academy for "orientation" in which week we qualified with the pistol and shotgun, got grab bag uniforms and uniform gear, did some driving (some had never driven anything bigger than a Pinto, we slid the big Furys around the skid pan and through the precision course, no high speed track available), some first aid, covered dept policy on conduct, filled out all our paperwork for insurances, payroll, beneficuaries, etc., and watched a lot of videos of all kinds, got sworn in the last day over at Chesterfield Courthouse (that swearing in is still in effect) and we got hair cuts at our own expense. This was Wed-Fri of one week and Mon-Tue the next, then that Wed following I had to report to my division for a meeting and start probationary training which lasted 3 months in my case (I was sworn, I carried a gun, I drove the car even in a pursuit as being an ex-toad, my FTO thought I could handle it OK, I just couldn't do anything LE related unless he or another trooper was there with me, or they would fire one), after which we came back to Richmond and started a 21 weeks additional training at the academy. When we left the academy after graduation, we were each alone in our new cars and set out to face the world, we were .... "the man". :cool:

'Course, that's changed here now. Now they hire you for a school and you probate afterwards and have a big book full of every task imaginable to perform before being turned loose on your own. :)

irishlad2nv
11-20-2005, 05:12 PM
Hell I was able to take and **** off a defense attorney and make her look like an idiot in court last month. Defense attorney thought I was some dumb *** that did not know what I was doing. Well guess what there defense attorney I know what I am doing and that is why your clients case got bound over to district court where he gets to answer to his charges.
Just from your tone in here, you will not cut it in the academy nor will you when you get put back on the street, if that ever occurs. You are just some young punk who thinks that because he has a badge now he is GOD, well guess what slick, that badge is not going to protect you from some civil suit. Grow-up.

SgtScott31
11-26-2005, 05:12 AM
Same way in TN regarding academy training. An officer can go either 6 or 12 months (can't remember which) and be fully commissioned before going to the academy.

The chief can issue the commission and the officer has to go to the academy within the stated time or he/she does not meet POST standards and the commission is "revoked" in a sense.

btw explorerscout...3 things:

#1 - If you are an LEO, I would change your user name. Explorerscout sounds like you're a police explorer or cub scout, not a cop.

#2 - No need to get so defensive. Simply state that NM allows exemptions for LEO's before they enter the academy. Why the hostility just because someone questions you about being a LEO?

#3 - Bragging about knowing your case in court is mute. That is your job. We jerk around defense attorneys every week. That doesn't mean I love to mess them up, it just means I'm good at testimony.

Food for thought

hpd3710
11-28-2005, 03:24 AM
Indiana also allows non-cert officers to work for up to one year without attending academy. You are, however, required to take a 40 hr. course before arrest powers are granted.

aktrpr
12-17-2005, 02:56 PM
Though I don't believe it is done much any more, Alaska permits appointments as probationary police officers prior to attending an academy. Field training is required immediately after hiring, then the probationary officer must complete an academy within three years of hire to become certified.