Emergency Lights in POV

[antoinebracy]

I'm a federal police officer for the US Dept. of Veterans' Affairs. I live in PA and work in NJ.

I want to know if there would be a problem with me installing emergency lights in my POV. From time to time I get called in to assist with various situations on the job and have to get there fairly quick.

I've heard that I would need a blue light permit in NJ but, that I wouldn't be able to get one because I am a police officer.


I tried to find out through Title 39 in NJ but it does not mention anything about ER lights(red & blue) in POVs for police officers.

Is it legal?

[Sleuth]

1. Contact your employer to see if they will insure you while you drive with the lights on (I bet they say NO).
2. Contact your insurance company about driving with emergency lights.
3. Think about the consequences of an accident, perhaps even a fatal, where someone claims your lights contributed.
4. Rethink putting lights on your POV.

[jakflak]

Are these situations you're responding to an immediate matter of life and death? If not, you don't need the lights.

[PABear31]

To have your POV equipped with emergency lights in PA you would need specific authorization from the PSP. In PA red, or red and blue are the only combinations permitted for use by police. Blue alone is restricted to volunteer firefighters. Contact the Bureau of Patrol in Department Headquarters for authorization.

[Sleuth]

As a former Fed, I'll bet that if your agency feels you need emergency response lights, they will provide you with a GOV, fully equipped.
YOU may feel you need to be there quick, but if your CHIEF does not feel that way, no lights!

[Bodie]

No it is not a good idea. And it's all on you since your restricted to your duties on federal property on the clock. If you were to drive on an "emergency" and hit and hurt someone you can kiss not only your job good bye but also the house, pension and savings.

[RabbitMPD]

All the advice already given is right on. Plus what would your insurance think about you running "code" to a call in your POV? Talk to your employer. If they don't think you need lights then you don't need lights.

[SgtScott31]

This should be a question that only your employer can answer.

I have emergency equipment in my vehicle, but only because I'm an Asst. Chief with a volunteer rescue squad. This is authorized in TN with red lights or a combination of red/white.

As a paid full-time LEO, I cannot use blue lights unless authorized by my Chief.

[asa_201]

in the uk we can use our lights to get to emergencies for example although i am not a police officer i am security guard at a huge firm in scotland and i take my cruiser home with me, although we work in pairs so sometimes itll be my colleague who takes the car home.

We are all on 24/7 call out so our POV's are rigged with Blue,Red darsh lights, red strobe, alternating head lights and 3 variations of sirens also speaker, can be handdy to tell idiots to move there asses out of my way :P

This is the law in UK and i have responded to many calls using my blues and twos and the police have seen me pass them and beause our off duty cars are marked with the firms when i had ma blues and twos on they knew where i was going and the police bijke went in front on one occasion and cleared the traffic which was much oblidged.

Hope this has increased your knowledge :)

[AnGardaSiochana]

in the uk we can use our lights to get to emergencies for example although i am not a police officer i am security guard at a huge firm in scotland and i take my cruiser home with me, although we work in pairs so sometimes itll be my colleague who takes the car home.

We are all on 24/7 call out so our POV's are rigged with Blue,Red darsh lights, red strobe, alternating head lights and 3 variations of sirens also speaker, can be handdy to tell idiots to move there asses out of my way :P

This is the law in UK and i have responded to many calls using my blues and twos and the police have seen me pass them and beause our off duty cars are marked with the firms when i had ma blues and twos on they knew where i was going and the police bijke went in front on one occasion and cleared the traffic which was much oblidged.

Hope this has increased your knowledge :)

It has increased my knowledge that your an idiot. Again I remind you, security guards in Scotland have no additional powers than that of a normal citizen. Please point to the law that includes security in exemptions from legislation?

now, please stop giving out plain bad advise in the 'ask a cop' section.

[asa_201]

what you talking bout the info in my last psot was 100% acc.

[AnGardaSiochana]

Dash lights are illegal in civilian cars. you cannot have blue lights on your roof and you cannot have an audible siren.

Thats all in addition to not being allowed break the speed limit because, and this is the killer for you Mr Wannabee, if its an emergency its the cops that respond not Batman and Robin. Thats why we are called 'emergency services'.

Your not a cop, this section specifically states only cops answer questions. I know your security guard ego cant tell the difference between your job and ours but its there. Most notable in law.


Now, will you be changing to red while you fight crime during the Christmas period?

Oh, and anyone that thinks Im being harsh on batman here should check out the thread he started and lied in (Citizens arrest (http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39500&page=1&pp=25)) . Your in security? then why does your profile say 'student' jerkoff?

[asa_201]

listen m8, not everyone discloses info like that, if you dont believe y dont u visit scotland, come to a town called falkirk il even give you my phone number and you can come round to my house view my POV and see the lights, and in the case of police responding then they will not as they cannot enter the premises unless a majax happens, do you know wot that means dickwod, good, so why dont u come down

[AnGardaSiochana]

listen m8, not everyone discloses info like that, if you dont believe y dont u visit scotland, come to a town called falkirk il even give you my phone number and you can come round to my house view my POV and see the lights, and in the case of police responding then they will not as they cannot enter the premises unless a majax happens, do you know wot that means dickwod, good, so why dont u come down

Oh sweet jesus. Not everyone discloses info like that? What, that your a security guard? Oh yeah, I can see why, national security and all, wouldnt want cops knowing that. But then, you either do or do not work in security depending on the stance your taking.

As for the police, oh they dont respond to an incident unless a 'majax' happens which would be an emergency, curious, if its not an emergency then you have even less reason to use your siren and lights :rolleyes:

BTW, do you know what a code 1 is? I will tell you in my next post.

Wake up, if that is all you have then your sunk. Care to respond on the law that allows you to speed through town using illegal lights and sirens? You cant because it doesnt exist. What other great tools does the Batmobile have? :p

Oh yeah, police can enter private property under so much legislation I wont go into it but rest assured, we will enter if we god damn well please. Hell, Scottish police can enter a house even if its only a breach of the peace in Scotland

[asa_201]

listen m8 i couldnt give a toss about your views and to let you know a code one in ure dept then i dont know wot it is but at my firm it is staff in need on backup and the batmobile as you call it has all the thinkgs i hve said already and majax occur when the security staff have to be there and the police are not always called a big fire occured when i was at home i had to attend end of.

[Crex4242]

in the uk we can use our lights to get to emergencies for example although i am not a police officer i am security guard at a huge firm in scotland and i take my cruiser home with me, although we work in pairs so sometimes itll be my colleague who takes the car home.

We are all on 24/7 call out so our POV's are rigged with Blue,Red darsh lights, red strobe, alternating head lights and 3 variations of sirens also speaker, can be handdy to tell idiots to move there asses out of my way :P

This is the law in UK and i have responded to many calls using my blues and twos and the police have seen me pass them and beause our off duty cars are marked with the firms when i had ma blues and twos on they knew where i was going and the police bijke went in front on one occasion and cleared the traffic which was much oblidged.

Hope this has increased your knowledge :)



I recall that you told everyone in here that you were not a security guard. Why are you even still on here after we all busted you on this issue. everyone in here knows that your full of Sh**

[asa_201]

yes that was a typo as i posted on that message but anyway unless you lot get a forum admin to ban me which you probably will end up doing then i will continue to post :)

[SinePari]

This knucklehead posted once and tossed off...forget this thread. If people can't do a search on this site about installing lights in their POVs, they shouldn't carry a weapon either

[Crex4242]

This knucklehead posted once and tossed off...forget this thread. If people can't do a search on this site about installing lights in their POVs, they shouldn't carry a weapon either




^ what he said

[AnGardaSiochana]

Asa 201,
Your an idiot. If you can still play the game go to:

Asa201 the man, the legend, the tosser (http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=529018#post529018)

There is no need for you to continue posting in this thread. Its not in the 'ask a Walter Mitty wannabee' section. :D

[asa_201]

god you should quit your proffesio and become a comedian like peter kay you probably weigh the same

[bcopd79]

god you should quit your proffesio and become a comedian like peter kay you probably weigh the same


Partner... learn how to type for one. Secondly, spelling... it's amazing what an education can do for you.

You got caught in a lie. Live with it. Aside from that, let the POLICE answer the questions in the Ask a Cop forum... and don't get all angry when people call you on it. :rolleyes:

[AnGardaSiochana]

god you should quit your proffesio and become a comedian like peter kay you probably weigh the same


Ouch, oh such a response. Least I get too wear a real uniform and drive a real police car. :D

[Crex4242]

Ouch, oh such a response. Least I get too wear a real uniform and drive a real police car. :D



come on now lets be nice, he claims that he has a security guard uniform lol ololo

[asa_201]

what youse yappin at noo

[nacorbier]

Alright, my turn. Since someone is claiming that they have blue lights in Scotland on SecurityInfoWatch, which IS the security guard forum.

Can someone tell me 1) Where in UK, EU, or Scottish law it says security personnel have authority to use blue light and siren? or, since I'm not from Scotland, 2) where a good lead on what to google for would be?

This would be most beneficial to SIW, as well as Officer.com.

(Note: I'm asking a question, not replying, for those who want to jump. The asa_201 above seems like both an idiot (personally attacking others), and lying. And that's without clicking on the other threads.)

[nacorbier]

I found them, for those who would answer me. Thanks for anyone who wanted to look.

[AnGardaSiochana]

All in the Asa dedicated thread

[nacorbier]

Thank you, AnGarda. :)

[OfficerDotCom]

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