NY state split in 2

[mark7777]

should NYC seperate and become state # 51

list your pro and con.

the rest of the state would be renamed.


IMO this divorce should have happened about 25 years ago.

[EMTFirefighter]

should NYC seperate and become state # 51

list your pro and con.

the rest of the state would be renamed.


IMO this divorce should have happened about 25 years ago.
As long as Suffolk and Nassau counties were included in it. NYC is a ****ty place with people with ****ty attitudes and I'm sick of wasting my tax money on that worthless place.

[Dragon1250]

It would be nice to have upstate needs met before more money is sent into NYC for the welfare bums. If you look at the state's medicaid costs, upstate really takes one in the arse to pay for those wonderful NYC folks.

[pkagel]

Well then, while we're at it we might as well do the same to CA!

[mark7777]

can not speak for CA but NY needs to be split.

NYC and upstate have nothing in common there is no reason to be the same state besides its always been that way.

NY needs to get out of the 19 th century thinking.

this is 2005. NY needs change.

[jason6f]

I work and live almost an hour from the northern most point of the state. Anyone heard of Lake Placid NY? I'm from 35 miles west of there. I hear all this stuff about the schools in NYC needing things but then I look around here and I'm like WT* I see my taxes and I'm thinking it must be going somewhere and I don't see a whole lot around here where it's going to.

[SlowDownThere]

They are tired of supporting our schoos with thier tax dollars. Someone's wrong here. One half of the state has to be wrong.

[EMTFirefighter]

They are tired of supporting our schoos with thier tax dollars. Someone's wrong here. One half of the state has to be wrong.
No one supports another areas schools with their tax dollars. Property tax contrbutes to school tax in the district that your property is a part of. If you own your own home in NYC, you contribute to NYC schools. If you own your own home upstate, you contribute to whatever school district you live in.

School taxes are not the issue here.

[winq]

NYC is a fun place to visit but i would want to live there. Naw...we'll keep NYC, Hell, it's a lot nicer now then is was ten years ago. If NYC became it's own entity, we (the rest of the state) wouldn't have anyone to blame our problems on.

[ChrisF202]

can not speak for CA but NY needs to be split.

NYC and upstate have nothing in common there is no reason to be the same state besides its always been that way.

NY needs to get out of the 19 th century thinking.

this is 2005. NY needs change.

Make Nassau and Suffolk (with the Hamptons, Riverhead and Southold as Peconic County) into a seperate state.

The name of the state would be Long Island.

[EMTFirefighter]

Make Nassau and Suffolk (with the Hamptons, Riverhead and Southold as Peconic County) into a seperate state.

The name of the state would be Long Island.
Make sure to include the city in with the rest of that garbage.

[ChrisF202]

Make sure to include the city in with the rest of that garbage.
heck no, New York can keep the city. Long Island gets Long Island.

[EMTFirefighter]

heck no, New York can keep the city. Long Island gets Long Island.
Anything below Westchester is crap if you ask me.

[letshearit4blue]

Split it...

[ChrisF202]

It wasent all that long ago that some parts of Long Island were not to different from say Rockland, Ulster or Putnam. The whole eastern part of Suffolk was all farmland until the mid 1990's when it began to become more suburban.

Its a heck of alot better then being in Stamford and having to drive an hour to Oneonta just to get to a movie theater or a good place to eat .... that can only show 2 movies at once (this was as of 1999). I had to go all the way to Kingston if I wanted McDonalds or a chain restaurant like Applebees or something (again as of 1999). Please tell me that the whole Catskills area has gotten better since then; I would love to have my family ski trips up there again like I used to before switched to Vermont when all the resorts either closed down or became to crowded.

[EMTFirefighter]

It wasent all that long ago that some parts of Long Island were not to different from say Rockland, Ulster or Putnam. The whole eastern part of Suffolk was all farmland until the mid 1990's when it began to become more suburban.

Its a heck of alot better then being in Stamford and having to drive an hour to Oneonta just to get to a movie theater or a good place to eat .... that can only show 2 movies at once (this was as of 1999). I had to go all the way to Kingston if I wanted McDonalds or a chain restaurant like Applebees or something (again as of 1999). Please tell me that the whole Catskills area has gotten better since then; I would love to have my family ski trips up there again like I used to before switched to Vermont when all the resorts either closed down or became to crowded.
I live in Oneonta. Do tell me where these "good places to eat" are! I've been here 7 months and have yet to find them! :D

[ChrisF202]

I live in Oneonta. Do tell me where these "good places to eat" are! I've been here 7 months and have yet to find them! :D
This one place called the Hidden Inn in South Knortright (exellent food - as of 1999/2000 lol) and this place called Christopers where if your under 18 only pay 10% of what you weigh or something like that. Theres more that i dont remember. I used to stay in Stamford at the Red Carpet Inn and go to breakfast at the Peachtree Cafe every morning. Sadly, the whole area went downhill after the Scotch Valley Ski Resort closed and I havent been there since then (around 2000).

[SlowDownThere]

No one supports another areas schools with their tax dollars. Property tax contrbutes to school tax in the district that your property is a part of. If you own your own home in NYC, you contribute to NYC schools. If you own your own home upstate, you contribute to whatever school district you live in.

School taxes are not the issue here.

A lawsuit brought under the "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" Act has resulted in a Federal Court mandating that New York State equalize funding for NYC schools. While that funding is likely to come from the general fund, it is taxpayers statewide supporting local school districts. School Districts are not funded only by the residents of that district, even before the lawsuit. State Aid is, always has been, a large part of school budgets.

[EMTFirefighter]

A lawsuit brought under the "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" Act has resulted in a Federal Court mandating that New York State equalize funding for NYC schools. While that funding is likely to come from the general fund, it is taxpayers statewide supporting local school districts. School Districts are not funded only by the residents of that district, even before the lawsuit. State Aid is, always has been, a large part of school budgets.
Yet another reason why NCLB is a crock of **** - and this is coming from someone who used to work at a school.

[SlowDownThere]

Yet another reason why NCLB is a crock of **** - and this is coming from someone who used to work at a school.

I agree totally. It is a crock.

[UPNYPO]

I totally agree. Split NYC and NYS. They can be the District of New York City. Just like the District of Columbia. Or something like that. Needless to say, NYS and NYC are totally different.

[NYPDjock]

Split.

NYC is great all by it's lonesome. :D

[t150vsuptpr]

50 is a nice "round" number. Leave it as is, too many songs to rewrite and too many flags out there with 50 stars. :D

[Invisiblecop]

Too bad you feel that way about NYC EMTFirefighter! There's a lot to be learned from working in the confines of the city. Not only does YOUR tax dollars go to welfare so do OURS!

Did you ever take into account how many city employees actually LIVE OUTSIDE the City? Many couldn't get the experience or the salaries in their respective "counties."

If you work in the confines of the city you'd be SURPRISED at how many job opportunities open up with a NYC Civil Service Employee on a Resume.

[EMTFirefighter]

Split.

NYC is great all by it's lonesome. :D
Keep telling yourselves that. How's that awesome pay down there at the NYPD?

[EMTFirefighter]

Too bad you feel that way about NYC EMTFirefighter! There's a lot to be learned from working in the confines of the city. Not only does YOUR tax dollars go to welfare so do OURS!

Did you ever take into account how many city employees actually LIVE OUTSIDE the City? Many couldn't get the experience or the salaries in their respective "counties."

If you work in the confines of the city you'd be SURPRISED at how many job opportunities open up with a NYC Civil Service Employee on a Resume.
You're out of your mind if you think city employees can make more in NYC than they could on the Island or in some of the lower "upstate" counties (Westchester, Dutchess, etc). Not to mention the fact that a good number of those jobs have residency restrictions.

[mark7777]

I totally agree. Split NYC and NYS. They can be the District of New York City. Just like the District of Columbia. Or something like that. Needless to say, NYS and NYC are totally different.
not only totally different but the downstate and upstate legislators have complete opposite needs and goals for the regions they come from part of the reason Albany is the lest effective statehouse nationwide.