Officers Looting Store???

[Bowles]

I just saw a video on MSNBC of what appeared to be two Louisiana Police Officers taking part in the looting of a store. The officers were pushing a shopping cart loaded with items thru the shoe section of a dept. store where looting was taking place. When the reporter questioned them about what they were doing they stated that they were attempting to stop the looting. But it sure as hell looked to me like they were helping themselves.
Anyone else see this bit of video?

[That Guy]

Looked like they were trying to protect those items by keeping it with them.......... :D
Not surprsied NO is/was one of the most corrupt departments nation wide.

TGY

[rpd1794]

New Orleans has always had issues. They don't get paid squat. With everything they have going on now, and probably wondering if they will even get paid, it wouldn't surprise me if they were looting.

But shoes????

Just from what I've seen on TV, I'm sure there's a feeling of absolute hopelessness and a WTF attitude. This whole thing would seem almost insurmountable to most of us if that was our city. I still don't condone thievery, especially from coppers, but then, my house isn't under 20 feet of water.

[cst.sb]

I saw that two guys telling people that they had to do what they had to do to survive. Then the broadcaster report (I didn't see it) that the police "looted" the of food, water, formula, and diapers to take to stranded people in another area of the city.

I may have seen another news clip and not the one you are talking about.

[COPS]

Even a cop joins in the looting
Mike Perlstein and Brian Thevenot
Staff writers

Law enforcement efforts to contain the emergency left by Katrina slipped into chaos in parts of New Orleans Tuesday with some police officers and firefighters joining looters in picking stores clean.

At the Wal-Mart on Tchoupitoulas Street, an initial effort to hand out provisions to stranded citizens quickly disintegrated into mass looting. Authorities at the scene said bedlam erupted after the giveaway was announced over the radio.

While many people carried out food and essential supplies, others cleared out jewelry racks and carted out computers, TVs and appliances on handtrucks.

Some officers joined in taking whatever they could, including one New Orleans cop who loaded a shopping cart with a compact computer and a 27-inch flat screen television.

Officers claimed there was nothing they could do to contain the anarchy, saying their radio communications have broken down and they had no direction from commanders.

[tony.o]

Yeah, I saw the video. They did appear to be looting along with other 'citizens' in the store and the two fat asses didn't look like they were in distress to me. Whats worse is the phone interview on Fox with the LA Attorney General who sounded like he condoned the looting, saying that they probably were practicing self preservation, even though he was told that the looters were shown mostly taking non food/drink items, cause it looked like everything but the food had been taken. I was more interested in seeing the sporting goods section and I hope that the Walmart had enough sense to remove the firearms to a secure location prior to the evacuation, I doubt it though. It was also reported that a precinct came under fire by at least two thugs armed with semi-auto rifles and in another incident an officer was shot in the face by looters.

[cst.sb]

Well, I hope that computer and TV were worth losing a career over.

What's next - car jacking?

No excuses for that; food, water, and baby supplies, are one thing. But TVs? Come on, no excuse.

[Woodles]

Do they even have power to run those TV's?

[pawncop]

Welcome to the wonderful world of lowered standards and continual excuse making.

This is frontline evidence that we should never lower standards to fill positions.

This goes beyond police work, it includes teachers, doctors, lawyers, politicians, any and all of the professions where character is crucial.

[zap]

May God help them all for what they are going through....

But...saddly another example of the lack of self-responsibility and accountability.

[Bowles]

I saw that two guys telling people that they had to do what they had to do to survive. Then the broadcaster report (I didn't see it) that the police "looted" the of food, water, formula, and diapers to take to stranded people in another area of the city.

I may have seen another news clip and not the one you are talking about.

What I saw was two female officers, and I didn't see any food, formula, water or diapers in the cart they were pushing.

[Styx]

From what I have read on NOLA.com; All the guns at Wal Mart were stolen.They have gangs of armed, scared criminals roaming the flooded streets of New Orleans.The Shelter at the Superdome is filled with evacuated citizens; the majority of which are probably criminals......sorry to judge. This is New Orleans we are talking about. There is not A/C, no working toilet........its a mess. If this isnt a modern day horror tale; I dont know what is.

I saw some footage of looting taking place and people were pushing display racks and display coolers out in flooded water......the cops have not been instructed to do anything and are trying to stop them, but cant. People are taking what they need, but also taking make-up, jewelry......stuff they dont need but have an opportunity to get free. The cops who arent joining in are simply trying to stay alive and help the ones who want help.....Its crazy and it will only get worse.

My husband, who grew up on the North Shore described it in one word,
"Disgraceful"

[ChrisF202]

Its anarchy and rampant looting/violence and now arson in some parts of New Orleans according to WNBC.

And im sure it will get worse ... I wouldent be suprised if we have full fledged rioting inside the Superdome stadium before this is over.

[ProWriter]

Welcome to the wonderful world of lowered standards and continual excuse making...This is frontline evidence that we should never lower standards to fill positions. Just wait 'til coverage of the NYC blackout of 06, showing a Jihad tatoo pushing around a shopping cart with a uniformed midget in the child seat...

[nacorbier]

ProWriter is right. Wait till the massive power blackouts from the remnants of the store, and the spike in gas prices hits 4-5 dollars a gallon.

I hope FEMA is listening, because they're the people supposed respond to a national emergency. And its coming.

I wonder how high Lake New Orleans will end up being. I've heard 80 percent of the sub-sea-level city is under water. EMS and Fire having to move dead bodies to get to living ones. Mass chaos.

And now looting.

Someone needs to deploy the national guard and lock that city down. Where is FEMA and the national guard?

[ProWriter]

Someone needs to deploy the national guard and lock that city down. Where is FEMA and the national guard?Where else? Drafting approved phrases to replace 10-codes.

[Styx]

Lake Ponchatrain could completely flood New Orleans It could very well be Lake New Orleans in a matter of weeks .....its rising and rising; levees are breaking and the Corps really does not know what to do. They have been trying to figure out for years what to do if this happened and now that it has......to be blunt...They are Screwed.

[nacorbier]

I think the Corps of Engineers will just pump it out when the water level's fully risen. Till then, time to get out of dodge.

[Styx]

I think the Corps of Engineers will just pump it out when the water level's fully risen. Till then, time to get out of dodge.
Where do they put it? I mean, its not the cleanest of water you know and now that its in the streets of New Orleans , it has gotten dirtier. Its enriched with feces, urine, vomit, dead bodies and who knows what else. Thats a lot of water.......

[nacorbier]

Very good question. I didn't realize that it was a biohazard now, but your right. Twenty bucks says the EPA has them pump it 20 miles out into the gulf, like everything else dangerous. :)

[cst.sb]

lawyers & politicians

You can't tell me these two groups would surprise you!!!

On our Noon NEWS there was a report yesterday where a well known anti-police lawyer was talking about how the police can't be trusted to police themselves. He said this because an internal police review dismissed an allegation of excessive force made by a lawyer! I almost spit my lunch up!

Lawyers, now there's a trust worthy bunch! Not only will they be looting, but they'll be representing all the looters injuried looters filing suit against the businesses that they injured themselves breaking into.

[kcolg]

Yeah, I saw the video. They did appear to be looting along with other 'citizens' in the store and the two fat asses didn't look like they were in distress to me. Whats worse is the phone interview on Fox with the LA Attorney General who sounded like he condoned the looting, saying that they probably were practicing self preservation, even though he was told that the looters were shown mostly taking non food/drink items, cause it looked like everything but the food had been taken. I was more interested in seeing the sporting goods section and I hope that the Walmart had enough sense to remove the firearms to a secure location prior to the evacuation, I doubt it though. It was also reported that a precinct came under fire by at least two thugs armed with semi-auto rifles and in another incident an officer was shot in the face by looters.


no actually the firearms section was gutted clean by looters.

[ftlaudcop]

total insanity, like hurricane andrew,,,,( we had singer harry wayne casey)
directing traffic.... :D

now we can see how the fed's..are prepared to protect the american
people instead of giving us..lip service.....


I guess the sheriff's will have to deputize every abled body man
to keep law and order....." break out the shot guns "

re=open joliet prison, and all these other closed down joints.....

hollywood i'm sure will be using this for a storey.....

who will star in it ???................. :eek:

[nacorbier]

total insanity, like hurricane andrew,,,,( we had singer harry wayne casey)
directing traffic.... :D

now we can see how the fed's..are prepared to protect the american
people instead of giving us..lip service.....


I guess the sheriff's will have to deputize every abled body man
to keep law and order....." break out the shot guns "

re=open joliet prison, and all these other closed down joints.....

hollywood i'm sure will be using this for a storey.....

who will star in it ???................. :eek:


My thoughts exactly. Time for FEMA to put up or shut up. I wonder if the Parish Sheriff and Police will deputize, or if they'll just request help from other agencies.

Once the Guard deploys, it should calm down a bit. Something about guys with M16s blaring warnings of "Looters will be shot on sight" over Humvees does that to people. I have no idea if they CAN shoot on sight, but you know...

[ChrisF202]

My thoughts exactly. Time for FEMA to put up or shut up. I wonder if the Parish Sheriff and Police will deputize, or if they'll just request help from other agencies.

Once the Guard deploys, it should calm down a bit. Something about guys with M16s blaring warnings of "Looters will be shot on sight" over Humvees does that to people. I have no idea if they CAN shoot on sight, but you know...
The Guard already HAS deployed, they just STOOD there and did jack s--t.

Send in the regulars and give em a whif of grapeshot as Napoleon said.

[ftlaudcop]

if this was the 1960's....they'd shoot ya w/o a doubt

stealing and property crimes, the goverment shooting ya is
dealing punishment, the punishment has to match the crime...
all these jokers runnin around with jerry curl juice drippin ,
robbin, stealing are looking for a paycheck....
now if we had lawyers who would not represent the claimants....
or hold the gov blameless..or harmless....
maybe some old fashion street justice could be served....

we went thru all that during andrew, and we had local gangs
robbing the national guard of their m-16's which did not have any ammo...
they did'nt tell ya that...????

they were shooting up fire trucks from hundreds of miles away that came to
help....don't know what the answer is.......

mercinaries from other countries to keep law and order....???...... :D

[BreakinChains]

hey at a time like that when people need food and water the million dollar companies will take the lost

[ChrisF202]

Is it true that inmates have broken out of the Orleans Parish Jail and joined the armed mobs in the streets as they attack police stations and try to steal weapons?

I have heard that every Wal-Mart in NO has had its guns and ammo totally wiped off the shelves. This is looking worse and worse with each report.

[MP Teamleader]

The Michigan Army National Guard is mobililizing my MP company and I dont know what else. I report to the Armory at 6pm to get the rest of the story.

[Styx]

Is it true that inmates have broken out of the Orleans Parish Jail and joined the armed mobs in the streets as they attack police stations and try to steal weapons?

I have heard that every Wal-Mart in NO has had its guns and ammo totally wiped off the shelves. This is looking worse and worse with each report.
They didnt break out, they were let out due to flooding; I dont know where they were taken, but I doubt they are still there. What the hurricane does not destroy; the criminal element will.

[ChrisF202]

They didnt break out, they were let out due to flooding; I dont know where they were taken, but I doubt they are still there. What the hurricane does not destroy; the criminal element will.
I certinly hope they were let out under armed guard ....

As for the looters; why cant they just shoot them?

[ftlaudcop]

why you can't shoot them....???

cop's are goverment agents ....

as a goverment agent you cannot punish them ( shoot to kill )

any punishment has to match the crime, stealing sneakers or a t..v set

is barbaric govermental rule, even though " joe citizen " seems to ignore

the rules of society, however, if " joe decent citizen" wants to dispense

street justice......who can blame them...?............... :cool:

[frogdust]

The jail inmates were at first evacuated to a part of the freeway not under water with armed guards around them. They are now moving them to various correctional facilities in North Louisiana. The police and the National Guard are not focused on the looting because there are still 100's of people trapped in houses around the metro area.

[DaveinUtah]

And the officers not looting are getting shot :mad:

http://www.local6.com/news/4918458/detail.html

Looter Shoots Police Officer In Head

[keith758]

I just watched the video, and I hope someone with the authority to fire those 2 officers and charge them has the balls to do so. They are pitiful excuses for human beings and a blight on the Law Enforcement profession. I was disgusted by them, and it's apparent by the appearance of these 2 that standards to be a cop there have reached an all time low. I'm sure that all of the good cops on the New Orleans department will be "under the gun" now because of these slobs.

[DaveinUtah]

Anyone have that link? I tried searching on MSNBC for it.

[sunshinegal]

I saw a news video this morning on the Today Show where two black female police officers were caught with their "hands in the cookie jar." When the camera guy asked what they were doing, she immediately pulled her hands back from the merchandise, lowered her head, and stated "Just doing my job" and walked off. This is disgraceful. Bad enough civilians are doing it, but my goodness! I hope the TV crew hands that tape over to the police and they get fired.

They should issue a shoot to kill order for anyone caught looting. That should take care of it real fast! It is so sad that there are police, military, and coast guard people are risking their lives trying to rescue others and then there are those who are kicking in the doors to Foot Locker and stealing. Sad. :mad:

[keith758]

Dave, the link is on the O.Com home page.

[Frank Booth]

Well, I hope that computer and TV were worth losing a career over.

From what I've heard they pay them down there, a bag of Doritos and a pack of smokes are worth losing a NOPD career over..........

[DaveinUtah]

Dave, the link is on the O.Com home page.

Thanks Bro!!!!

[Bowles]

Try This

VIDEO (http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?f=00%2f64&t=1&p=Source_Today%20Show&i=a70ae695-8e97-4384-a1bc-97207092b45e&rf=)
Click on the video about the looting, this shows a small part of what was aired on MSNBC the other night.

[keith758]

In looking at the video again, it looks like the Big 'Un had a few pair of flip-flops in her cart! I suppose, for her, that floor is a loooong way down! I'll bet she has velcro on her uniform shoes!

[POLYGRAPHISALIE]

The Political people are to be exempt from the rest of us. They have written and enacted laws that specifically exempt them from being arrested for certain criminal offenses.

Be well,

Sgt. Rock

[JLFINFAN]

I just watched the video, and I hope someone with the authority to fire those 2 officers and charge them has the balls to do so. They are pitiful excuses for human beings and a blight on the Law Enforcement profession. I was disgusted by them, and it's apparent by the appearance of these 2 that standards to be a cop there have reached an all time low. I'm sure that all of the good cops on the New Orleans department will be "under the gun" now because of these slobs.

It's crap like that that makes all of our jobs harder!

[COPS]

http://yahooracists.ytmnd.com/

[nacorbier]

Ok, wonderful. Let me FIND some Remington 700s at the local Wal-Mart.

Oh, and to the MP who's deploying: Good luck. I hope they let you carry live ammo for your M16. I heard about the FNG roaming around without loaded weapons.

[nacorbier]

hey at a time like that when people need food and water the million dollar companies will take the lost

I'm sure they'll take the loss for the Plasma TVs, Computers, Rifles, and jewelry too.

[zap]

wweeeellllll....I got me some ssshooooooeeesss....an.... :mad:

Anyone who can justify that crap...sad to say...but ton and a half cops included....is just a crook. I can see in situations like that taking food and water etc...but not the jewelry and electronics. I say one warning to surrender ..if they don't...SHOOT THEM. ....as FNC reported...one NOPD cop said he wanted to just shoot them on sight and put a tag that says LOOTER on them and walk away.


Give me a stickin break. Any one who sends ANY military or LE ANYWHERE for ANY reason with a gun and it not loaded SHOULD BE SHOT THEMSELVES.

We call that a DEAD MAN's GUN

[Chiller]

It is New Orleans everyone.....



What's the sense of being a ________ if ya can't act like one.



Pathetic

[JLFINFAN]

As for the looters; why cant they just shoot them?

Because Tennessee vs Garner says we can't.....

Damn You Supreme Court! :D

[NavyCop]

http://yahooracists.ytmnd.com/


What's the point of posting that?

What does this have to do with law enforcement?

Its not racist, its two different news agencies reporting. Its exactly the same as when CNN calls them Suicide Bombers and Fox News calls them Homicide Bombers.

[COPS]

I just found it funny, a disaster like this needs a little humour :)

[That Guy]

http://yahooracists.ytmnd.com/


Not surprised.............

TGY

[Washingtonian]

From what I've heard they pay them down there, a bag of Doritos and a pack of smokes are worth losing a NOPD career over..........

This is no laughing matter...
but that was funny.

[tony.o]

With the current situation being what it is there, you could probably drop one of those thugs, let him lay there in the water and say nothing about it. I'm sure its already been done. Its not like their going to have the resources to investigate every death that has occurred in the last few days.

[JustDontDie]

That place is a mess. Astonishing.

[MAD_MAX333]

you can't even put it to words the level of craziness right now.. jesus.. SHOOT THE LOOTERS... god why can't we move time back to the 60's and just take care of these idiots... damn.

[Frank Booth]

Because Tennessee vs Garner says we can't.....

TN v. Garner said you could be held civilly responsible for shooting them, not criminally.....

[BikeCop501]

Yall keep saying that these officers will lose there jobs, when this is all done and finished, Im sure all of these officer (including the good ones), regardless what they did will lose there jobs, because their city, sorry to say, is gone.....

[edg103]

What concerns me is that they're coming here (Houston). I work just outside of Houston but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the crime rate spikes near the dome (it's bad enough around there already). It also wouldn't surprise me if a riot breaks out in the next couple of weeks at the Astrodome if things don't get done quickly in New Orleans (and they won't). I really feel for those people over there but looting? That's sub-human. Far as I'm concerned-declare Martial Law in the city, not just a "curfew" that no one is paying attention to anyway.

[Tennsix]

you can't even put it to words the level of craziness right now.. jesus.. SHOOT THE LOOTERS... god why can't we move time back to the 60's and just take care of these idiots... damn.
What about the 60's would make things better?

[mark7777]

The situation there is crazy.

send in the Marines :D

[MrOrange]

... its not the cleanest of water you know and now that its in the streets of New Orleans , it has gotten dirtier. Its enriched with feces, urine, vomit, dead bodies and who knows what else.

having walked bourbon street at night before, at least the streets will be cleaner. as in, the streets of NO were already covered in that stuff anyway.

but i'd have to agrre with bikecop, i'm kinda under the impression that NO is gone. even if they do manage to pump out the water and rebuild the levies, which could take 3 to 6 months (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-levees1sep01,0,7854368.story?coll=la-home-headlines), they'll really have to weigh the costs of flattening what's left of the city and rebuilding all of it again versus having a commerative Lake NO and letting the tall tales live.

[redstag]

About the two looting cops--a theif is a theif is a theif- they should be sentanced the same as everyone else. If they refused to cease their actions, well they can take a bullet like everyone else.

[Tennsix]

About the two looting cops--a theif is a theif is a theif- they should be sentanced the same as everyone else. If they refused to cease their actions, well they can take a bullet like everyone else.
Shoot another cop for alleged stealling? Not me...

[BrickCop]

Shoot another cop for alleged stealling? Not me...


I would not either but I'd sure as hell photograph them if no arrest could be made at the scene. I'd then release it to the local paper with their names in 5" bold letters: WANTED CRIMINAL.

After they were arrested I'd perp walk parade them around every camera giving everyone an ample opportunity to ridicule and scorn them.

Those two thieving cops are no better than thieving crack whores.

[ChrisF202]

Its time to create a permanent uniformed national paramilitary police force comparable to the French Gendarmerie, Italian Carabineri or the German Bundespolizei ... no more relying on half trained "citizen soldiers" who give up weapons to scumbags like in Hurricane Andrew.

The whole world is laughing at us right now cause we cant even control a few armed looters in New Orleans. All they have to do is shoot ONE looter and the rest will run for their lives; like what the REGULAR active duty Army guys did in the LA Riots.

[pkagel]

Being that most of those "half trained" citizen soldier probably just recently got back from Iraq I'd say they are probably better trained to handle the job than the police.

As far as a national police force, how about standardized training instead.

no more relying on half trained "citizen soldiers" .

[Tennsix]

Its time to create a permanent uniformed national paramilitary police force comparable to the French Gendarmerie, Italian Carabineri or the German Bundespolizei ... no more relying on half trained "citizen soldiers" who give up weapons to scumbags like in Hurricane Andrew.

The whole world is laughing at us right now cause we cant even control a few armed looters in New Orleans. All they have to do is shoot ONE looter and the rest will run for their lives; like what the REGULAR active duty Army guys did in the LA Riots.
There is a lot more going on there then just

[pkagel]

I just read his profile while your were posting this and saw his age also. Maybe he might want to join up with the NY NG and see just how little training they receive.

[QUOTE=Tennsix]There is a lot more going on there then just

[Tennsix]

Hell, he would run as soon as a looter made a face and yelled at him.

[ChrisF202]

[QUOTE=Tennsix]There is a lot more going on there then just

[Tennsix]

Go right ahead; appoint me Superintendent of Police and ill clear out the looters in a matter of hours.

Tear gas, billy clubs, dogs, one warning shot and then shoot to kill. No more looters.
What will do about that pesky little obsession called the Constitution?

[ChrisF202]

What will do about that pesky little obsession called the Constitution?
Its time to restore order and declare martial law. Im not 100% but I belive that the Constitution and the Bill of right dont exist under martial law.

We cant declare martial law because an 1866 Supreme Court ruling said it cant be declared as long as civilian courts are in operation.

I have nothing against law enforcement and I know the NOPD is doing their hardest (one captain said his cells were filled to the ceiling and hell put more of them in if he has to) but im just sick and tired of seeing bodies covered with sheets and people on their roofs begging for help while these scumbags walk around with TVs, computers, guns, expensive clothing, etc.

[MEA0306]

With the current situation being what it is there, you could probably drop one of those thugs, let him lay there in the water and say nothing about it. I'm sure its already been done. Its not like their going to have the resources to investigate every death that has occurred in the last few days.

'Gators will clean up for you.

[mark7777]

Its time to create a permanent uniformed national paramilitary police force comparable to the French Gendarmerie, Italian Carabineri or the German Bundespolizei ... no more relying on half trained "citizen soldiers" who give up weapons to scumbags like in Hurricane Andrew.

The whole world is laughing at us right now cause we cant even control a few armed looters in New Orleans. All they have to do is shoot ONE looter and the rest will run for their lives; like what the REGULAR active duty Army guys did in the LA Riots.

givin that people balk when you even mention creating a metro police force in cities that do not have them-- good luck in creating a national police force.Will not happen.

The National guard troops are there to help local law enforcement not replace them.

why do you think the world would laugh at us? if anything they are saying how tragic- like most people.

[Retired96]

Those two cops shown looting are not law enforcement officers, they are nothing but ghetto scum with a badge. whoever you are you are a disgrace to our profession. You need your butts stomped and thrown in jail with the rest of the worthless looters.

[eyerish101]

dont give democrats badges and guns !!!!!