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bgofast72
07-30-2005, 09:07 PM
I live in Plano Texas and I am hearing all the time about officers and chiefs getting into trouble for lying and committing all types of crimes while off and on duty. The departments around state that they have a high standard for hiring their officers and that they are also high caliber departments. I don't want to sound like I am blaming anyone, but I seriously doubt that they do on either point. I just would like to know what other officers and personnel think and would change about this problem that seems to be growing? Thank you and again, I mean no disrespect at all to those honored and trustworthy officers out there!

Tennsix
07-30-2005, 09:12 PM
Police Officers are only human... Every profession has the same problem.

Ballen0351
07-30-2005, 09:16 PM
We deal with Scum bags all day its only a matter of time before it gets to some people. You spend all your time in the Mud you might get dirty. Most officers however are stronger then that

Crush
07-30-2005, 10:18 PM
Here is my take after 17 years as a police officer/detective. In those years I saw racial profiling, stereotyping and unethical activity that would make most citizens cringe if they only knew. I'm not talking about the criminals on the street. I'll hear the usual bull**** response from the cops that usually fall into the segement that I am addressing but the truth is this; Departments for the most part are run by leaders that have mastered the art of bull****. From large departments to small you see the same pattern.

The majority of cops either develope or already have a better then all attitude and above the law mentality. 12 hour shifts, overtime, short staffing, court time, divorce, family problems and drugs become all part of the cops life. Attitudes become hard and if you had a lieutenant like mine, who would tell "His troops" to go out there and "Kick some ***" tonight! you fall into the world of what is known as cop land. I worked with guys that could get themself into more trouble and create more work for themself then you can believe all because a homeless person wouldnt leave a park when told. Now this tough cop has tied up 3 hours booking (for the 6th. time in a week) this homeless person while the cops two beat partners struggle to just meet the demand for calls for service. But this cop, who has all these arrest gets rewarded for great activity on his evual. Go figure, you know the story.

Now here comes the part where I here some BS ...I worked 17 years....2 of those years I was recognized as the cop with the most FELONY arrest. I never had one use of force issue during that time. I also worked SWAT, Special enforcement detail, 8 years detectives etc...

I hated...and I mean hated the cops that would jack up a black or hispanic person. I trained with a few of some very big black guys at the local gym. They all had professional jobs and we were all friends. One of our tough guy cops pulled over one of these guys once (he had a lowered car so he must be a criminal) and this officer started jacking this guy up. Knowing who this cop had stopped, I became the follow, as I didn't want this guy to get totally ****ed off at the cop and smash him into the dohnut he had that morning. I arrived and heard the usual, "This is my city and we don't appreciate criminals here" (spitting out his chew as he talked) Finding out that no crime was committed and that this cop was going to arrest this citizen for PC 148 (obstruction) (isn't that a catch all) The cop tried to get the guy into hand cuffs but this guy is 6'5", 285lbs. The cop (5'8"...240lbs. of slop) finally gets him hand cuffed using two pair and then proceeds to punch the guy in the side( I actually thought the citizen thought the cop was joking as the punch was more of a tickle ) Being a witness to this was almost comical as the cop didn't know we knew each other. After I saw the punch I told the cop, How about if I unhandcuff him?....You know ,so he can protect himself?.....This ****ed Mr. tough guy cop off. He had the balls to ask me which side was I on?

I took it upon myself to jump that cop's crap, and of course I was later the one that took the heat from admin. Guess I should have let the guy beat the **** out of the stupid, pathetic officer. Since then, admin. took the liberty to assign that good cop to a newly developed job....assigning other officers training classes. Yes, same pay, good days off etc...lame dork.

Do I sound a bit angry myself? Damn right, because this happend way too much and is supported by most administrations! I saw more **** covered up by admin. that was down right criminal then you want to know....

Now the question is why?... Because they can and No one gives a ****.

Tennsix
07-31-2005, 01:15 AM
Thank you for sharing that with us. A lot of young people (sworn and civilian) on this site have no idea that sort of stuff really goes on. And those that do realize it don

bgofast72
07-31-2005, 11:00 PM
Wow, great answers to my questions. I am very glad that you all did not think I ment to be mean about it! Awesome and very informative! Thank you very much.

jcallen12003
08-06-2005, 12:08 AM
Here is my take after 17 years as a police officer/detective. In those years I saw racial profiling, stereotyping and unethical activity that would make most citizens cringe if they only knew. I'm not talking about the criminals on the street. I'll hear the usual bull**** response from the cops that usually fall into the segement that I am addressing but the truth is this; Departments for the most part are run by leaders that have mastered the art of bull****. From large departments to small you see the same pattern.

The majority of cops either develope or already have a better then all attitude and above the law mentality. 12 hour shifts, overtime, short staffing, court time, divorce, family problems and drugs become all part of the cops life. Attitudes become hard and if you had a lieutenant like mine, who would tell "His troops" to go out there and "Kick some ***" tonight! you fall into the world of what is known as cop land. I worked with guys that could get themself into more trouble and create more work for themself then you can believe all because a homeless person wouldnt leave a park when told. Now this tough cop has tied up 3 hours booking (for the 6th. time in a week) this homeless person while the cops two beat partners struggle to just meet the demand for calls for service. But this cop, who has all these arrest gets rewarded for great activity on his evual. Go figure, you know the story.

Now here comes the part where I here some BS ...I worked 17 years....2 of those years I was recognized as the cop with the most FELONY arrest. I never had one use of force issue during that time. I also worked SWAT, Special enforcement detail, 8 years detectives etc...

I hated...and I mean hated the cops that would jack up a black or hispanic person. I trained with a few of some very big black guys at the local gym. They all had professional jobs and we were all friends. One of our tough guy cops pulled over one of these guys once (he had a lowered car so he must be a criminal) and this officer started jacking this guy up. Knowing who this cop had stopped, I became the follow, as I didn't want this guy to get totally ****ed off at the cop and smash him into the dohnut he had that morning. I arrived and heard the usual, "This is my city and we don't appreciate criminals here" (spitting out his chew as he talked) Finding out that no crime was committed and that this cop was going to arrest this citizen for PC 148 (obstruction) (isn't that a catch all) The cop tried to get the guy into hand cuffs but this guy is 6'5", 285lbs. The cop (5'8"...240lbs. of slop) finally gets him hand cuffed using two pair and then proceeds to punch the guy in the side( I actually thought the citizen thought the cop was joking as the punch was more of a tickle ) Being a witness to this was almost comical as the cop didn't know we knew each other. After I saw the punch I told the cop, How about if I unhandcuff him?....You know ,so he can protect himself?.....This ****ed Mr. tough guy cop off. He had the balls to ask me which side was I on?

I took it upon myself to jump that cop's crap, and of course I was later the one that took the heat from admin. Guess I should have let the guy beat the **** out of the stupid, pathetic officer. Since then, admin. took the liberty to assign that good cop to a newly developed job....assigning other officers training classes. Yes, same pay, good days off etc...lame dork.

Do I sound a bit angry myself? Damn right, because this happend way too much and is supported by most administrations! I saw more **** covered up by admin. that was down right criminal then you want to know....

Now the question is why?... Because they can and No one gives a ****.

Some things yyou can see a mile away. I was in the Academy and there is BS there at its finest..I was lied on and terminated 5 days before graduation.The Sgt in charge was a true brown noser and I found out from other sworn officers that he was a dud from even when he was in the academy,got his cruiser taken by a suspect and he had to chase the suspect in the suspect's private vehicle and was known as a screw up. The officers could not believe I was terminated but when they realized who was in charge of recruits they understood why. I guess I made the 10% list of attrites he always talked about, You are right ! he's backed by admin and no one gives a s%$# about it or me ! Eventually it will catch up to his fat @&# then what !

Ghost Rider 37
08-06-2005, 12:40 AM
It is all about power and ego.

bgofast72
08-06-2005, 10:46 PM
Thanks again for your response! I hear you, what goes around comes around.

olnacl
08-07-2005, 12:39 AM
nothing to see here

bgofast72
08-07-2005, 07:18 PM
I understand your comment's Olnacl, it does seem that way. I was an officer for 4 years and I don't remember hearing so bad about departments and officers before I stopped being one in 2000. I guess the bad people can pop in anywhere now. I hear about a Chief sellng drugs somewhere around my area, an officer soliciting a prostitute on duty, a couple of officers being arrested for pornography sting, so on and so forth. That is why I wanted to ask basicly "What in the world is going on with these departments?" I though that having polygraph tests, psychological evaluations, physical fitness, oral interviews, background checks all the way back to when you were a baby, and countless other things would stop those type of people from becoming law enforcement officers. Guess thats what I get for thinking, but no offense to anyone who went through all that and have not done anything illegal or even thought about it. Like I think you said, there are bad people in every field. Thanks and take care!