Air Marshal Job Open !

[dnehack]

INTHEAIRCOP you have mail.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I found out what it was. It is openings for J band Air Marshals for all offices. J bands are supervisor postions and these are filed from current I band FAMs. So sorry for the mistake guys.

[datfas]

Can someone send me the number to the FAMS medical office. I took my medical awhile back but had some difficulty with the paperwork and the contractor. I want to check to see if they got it.

[milica]

Does anybody knows about PT test and how does it work. I had interview last November and now waiting for PT, still did not recieve call for it. Why it takes so long and will thay ever call.

[Patrio72]

They will call when they call...

The timeline varies from applicant to applicant. For example, I had my interview in June, medical in September and PTA in November.

One of the first Avue emails you received should include a link to the PTA prep guide. (It is a pdf document)

Good luck!
Patriot72

[milica]

I had interview and drug test at same day, and PT preparation guide was given to me....I am still waiting but if you have any suggastion for PT test I would accept it....thank you

[cajunman]

Has anyone that has inverviewed since October of 06 completed are recieved any information about doing there medical?I was told at the Oct interview that they were looking to contract a new company, was curoius if they did that yet.

[Lazer]

Has anyone that has inverviewed since October of 06 completed are recieved any information about doing there medical?I was told at the Oct interview that they were looking to contract a new company, was curoius if they did that yet.


If they said that, good luck in waiting. It appears they are changing things around in the process currently. Like you said they are looking for a new contract with a company for Medical tests, and they are changing around the psych process I was told.

[tua]

IS the PAT part of the process anymore??? It is not in the avue hiring process steps anymore.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Does anybody knows about PT test and how does it work. I had interview last November and now waiting for PT, still did not recieve call for it. Why it takes so long and will thay ever call.


When and if you get a call to do the PT test it is the following:
1) Pullups
2) Situps
3) Pushups
4) 1 1/2 mile run

[Lazer]

IS the PAT part of the process anymore??? It is not in the avue hiring process steps anymore.


I just copied the following from the job summary on AVUE: Yes it is still a part of the process.
The FAMS has implemented a Physical Training Assessment (PTA) requirement for all applicants in order to assess ability to successfully participate in strenuous physical activity during formal training with minimized risk of injury. Candidates will be evaluated for performance of the following physical tasks: Pull-ups, sit-ups, push-ups, and a 1.5 mile run. There is no minimum required score for the PTA. The fitness evaluation level achieved by candidates is a factor considered in the applicant assessment process.

[STL]

Hey Guys like I said I been watching this site, and I been in contact with Avue and everyone and them alike is always throwing out the budget word well I thought this article would be kinda useful:


Homeland Security is one of few winners under ’08 budget proposal
By STEPHEN LOSEY
February 06, 2007
Editor’s note: A story posted temporarily yesterday incorrectly reported the proposed budget for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. The information is corrected below.

With a proposed $2.7 billion increase in discretionary spending, the Homeland Security Department would be one of the biggest beneficiaries under President Bush’s fiscal 2008 budget proposal.
About $746 million of that increase would go to Customs and Border Protection. This would help pay for 3,000 new Border Patrol agents, which the White House said would bring the ranks to 18,300 and would double the number of agents in 2001.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement would get a $306 million increase that would help pay for 950 new beds to house detained illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

Homeland Security’s Secure Border Initiative — a multibillion-dollar effort to stop illegal immigration with a combination of fences, high-tech monitoring devices and more manpower — will continue in 2008. The department is now building fences along the Barry Goldwater Range in Arizona and expects to have 150 miles done by the end of fiscal 2007. With the help of $1 billion in fiscal 2008 funding, said SBI director Greg Giddens, 370 total miles of border should be fenced off by the end of fiscal 2008. Congress has ordered Homeland Security to fence off 700 miles.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Feb. 5 that the Transportation Security Administration plans to focus on hiring and training 1,329 transportation security officers, or airport screeners, to take over the job of checking travel documents and boarding passes at airports at a cost of $60 million. Airline personnel now do that job. Screeners also will look for suspicious behavior using techniques developed in Israel and Europe.
TSA also will begin focusing more on inspecting cargo shipped on passenger aircraft. Chertoff said the agency will spend $56 million in 2008 on 300 inspectors, canine teams and technology to inspect all air cargo.
But critics say some crucial grant programs are still underfunded.
Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, the ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said in a Feb. 5 statement that grant funding for state first responders was more than cut in half. States depend on these grants, she said, and the cuts would hurt first responders’ ability to train to respond to disasters and terrorist attacks, upgrade equipment, and prepare emergency plans and risk assessments.
Collins also said the $210 million Homeland Security has slated for port security grants is not enough. The proposed funding is far less than the $400 million called for in the SAFE Port Act, which Collins helped write.
Fiscal 2008 will mark Homeland Security’s first full year with the authority to regulate chemical facilities, but Collins doubts the requested $25 million will cover the program’s costs.
Jay Cohen, undersecretary for science and technology, denied that $174 million in cuts throughout his directorate’s budget represent a loss of interest in research.
Other apparent budget cuts actually represent changes in the way Homeland Security does business, officials said.
For example, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has $871 million less in discretionary spending listed in its budget. But FEMA chief financial officer Margaret Young said that money was transferred to the Commerce Department, which, in partnership with FEMA, will administer $1 billion in interoperable communications grants for states and localities. Chertoff said FEMA is getting $100 million in new funding to hire 241 new employees, invest in new technology and equipment, and improve its disaster readiness. FEMA seeks $48 million to convert its temporary disaster work force to a full-time staff.
“This is the kind of professionalization at FEMA that is an element of a long-term rebuilding effort that will benefit the country for years to come,” Chertoff said. “These investments align with the reorganization of FEMA that Congress mandated.”

[manstown]

I can tell you now that the people that were doing it in DC aren't anymore. I have heard that they will start making calls again shortly, but don't take the word "shortly" as a day or a week or even a month. It will happen when it happens. Just be patient. The only thing you will do is make yourself crazy waiting to hear from them. It can't be stressed enough, but just go on and be surprised when they call. Alot has been said to people about getting hired.......but it is the government and they run on their own time schedule. Good Luck! But do yourself a favor and stick to your day to day life.

[Hitz]

Did you notice in the re-cert email they have added additonal hiring sites:
to include Boston (MA), Detroit (MI), Los Angeles (CA), Newark (NJ), and New York (NY). Also, a limited number of vacancies will be available in San Francisco (CA) and Washington, (D.C.). Failure to choose at least one of these seven locations will result in your application not moving forward in the FAM assessment process.

[BrickCop]

This thread has over 160,000 hits! The Air Cop job is a great gig don't get me wrong but man this is a loooong thread! :D

[igneous]

This is weird, I got an email last summer that I was turned down, I made it to the end of the process, even got the psych recert email, and then today I get an email to recertify my application. If I was turned down for the job I don't understand why I would get this email?

[dnehack]

igneous, it may have been in error. I know a couple of people that received no thanks email and then got hired and received the no thanks email and was already hired. I would call Avue and explain to someone what is going on or just resubmit the application and pray for the best. Best of luck to everyone!

[jmk421]

This is weird, I got an email last summer that I was turned down, I made it to the end of the process, even got the psych recert email, and then today I get an email to recertify my application. If I was turned down for the job I don't understand why I would get this email?


Same here. I just updated everything (a lot has changed since I first applied) and I'm just going to see what happens. Either way I’m not assuming anything. :cool:

[SlowDownThere]

Huge article in Friday's Wall Street Journal about the agency, and the troubles they have had. The gist of the article was that things are getting better there.

It's probably availble on-line. Friday Feb 9th.

Anyone else read it?

[Trace]

Hey guys, I have completed the process and recently got my thin letter for the FAMS stating that I was out of the running. Now I get a re-cert email. Log onto Avue and everything is showing that I am in good standing.

Anyone else in the same boat?

[igneous]

Hey guys, I have completed the process and recently got my thin letter for the FAMS stating that I was out of the running. Now I get a re-cert email. Log onto Avue and everything is showing that I am in good standing.

Anyone else in the same boat?
Yeah, there looks to be three of us on here now like that. Makes me think that we aren't actually in the running, but we can hope i guess.

[dtown101]

for everyone who got the recert letter via email who has completed the whole process????? and when did you complete the process>>>

little curious

[Trace]

Sorry about that igneous. I should have read, rather than skimmed that last page of posts. This has been a strange hiring process. I just recertified and I guess I am going to get back to chasing other animals. Best of luck to you guys. Never get too wrapped up in trying to figure out the way this stuff works. Its like running in a hail storm. Some people get tapped on the head and others don't.

[Tower]

for everyone who got the recert letter via email who has completed the whole process????? and when did you complete the process>>>

little curious

Completed the process in Sep 06.

[MassVet]

just recertified my application.


I'm done with the process and have been since late september. I recertified my Psych two days ago and now Im waiting. On the new announcement it states that there is 30 vacancies and also ads some more locations, san fran, la, va just to name a view. Still waiting!

[dtown101]

on usajobs.gov their is no new announcement......where are you getting ur information???????????

[Patrio72]

It is the same announcement. They just modified the Notes section under Job Posting Information/Summary on Avue.

Congrats to those of you who have received the email to recertify your applications. The last time I recertified my application on Avue was November 29, 2006. I added 2 cities to my application in mid December after I finished my Psych interview. I have not received an email to recertify my application yet but I am wondering if I should just go ahead and recertify my application now or wait for an email from Avue? Are there special instructions listed in the email or do you recertify your app as usual?

For those of you that received the email, when did you last update/recertify your application? Has it been over 90 or 120 days? I am just trying to make sense of this. :confused:

Patriot72

[tua]

This was my first time having to recertify. I only passed the interview so far....

[Ammo22]

I recertified my app. today. Finished the process on 11-20-81 with my PTA. Applied in January 2006. I certified my app. back in Dec on accident becuase I went to change something and had to resend my app. I got the recert e-mail today. Whatever that means?

[Tower]

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the application recert. People have received the email who just applied a month ago and have a COE. Maybe FAMS is looking for a more accurate count of current applicants.

[Hitz]

I posted the new locations, I cut and pasted that directly from the email. I have also been in constant communication with an applicant coordinator from HR. I completed the process last month.

[Lazer]

Got my Recert e-mail last night also. I had not updated anything since FEB 2006. I had all the sites they listed as my choices, Boston, DC, New York. Looks like they are just updating their files since noone has been hired this fiscal year.

[rugermk2]

Hey ya'll, I'm a new app as of about a week ago. This thread has been quite informative, though I'll admit I haven't read ALL the posts. I did the re-cert last night and am feverishly working on completing my SF-86 now. I finishing up a degree now, so I'm not looking to get hired for at least a year. Given some of your experiences shared on this thread, it sounds like I may be in luck :D

Good luck to all still in the running.....

[HDbluelite]

I got my recert e-mail yesterday and sent it through. I also got the confirmation notification. I hope things are moving forward!

[litreofcola]

got my first recert email yesterday, am giong to recert today or tomorrow

applied in oct 24 2006
coe cot 25 2006
panel interview Nov 27 2006-drug test same time

I got 5 years exp as an officer and about 3 years as a 911 dispatcher, turning 26 years old this month. Will modify to include every city they offer, just hoping to get the job. good luck all!

[dtown101]

im starting to think everyone who applied got the recert letter....so I think for all we havent moved a muscle in this process>>>been done for well over six months and still counting....this sucks

[tua]

At least your done all the steps Im still stuck with only having done the interview

[INTHEAIRCOP]

just recertified my application.


I'm done with the process and have been since late september. I recertified my Psych two days ago and now Im waiting. On the new announcement it states that there is 30 vacancies and also ads some more locations, san fran, la, va just to name a view. Still waiting!

I just read it. I guess they have a very small number of postions in the bigger offices.

[STL]

Have any of you guys heard, when they might be starting up some classes at the Academy? And how true is it that those guys that got hired back in 06 still haven't had a class yet? Anyone have any information on that?

[tua]

I know a FAM and he told me that they had a class sometime last fall

[dtown101]

for all who have completed the whole process....when did you complete the process....

[sco0437]

I just got a letter asking me to get my fingerprints taken. For those that have completed the process, after you did that, did you hear anything else pretty quickly? I applied back in 05, that this is basically the only communication ive had, except for some emails. Im just wondering if everyone is asked to get their prints done.

Thanks guys,
Steve

[signal1]

I just started my application process the beginning of this month and after reading most of the posts (not enough hours in the day to read all of them) this is going to take FOREVER. I ETS out of the Army this September and by looking at all of your posts, I shouldn't count on that if I want to be an Air Marshal!! :-(

Just out of curiosity, I have 8 yrs civilian law enforcement, 2 years of patrol sergeant, 3 years detective, 7 years SWAT, 1 year military police investigator , 14 years Military Police (most of it in the Reserves), I already have my TS (interim...but I did the SF 86 again for AVUE) and to many schools that you all don't want to hear about. I will graduate this December with my BA in Psychology. How does this stack up to the rest of you guys? Do I even have a chance. :confused:

[dtown101]

I just started my application process the beginning of this month and after reading most of the posts (not enough hours in the day to read all of them) this is going to take FOREVER. I ETS out of the Army this September and by looking at all of your posts, I shouldn't count on that if I want to be an Air Marshal!! :-(

Just out of curiosity, I have 8 yrs civilian law enforcement, 2 years of patrol sergeant, 3 years detective, 7 years SWAT, 1 year military police investigator , 14 years Military Police (most of it in the Reserves), I already have my TS (interim...but I did the SF 86 again for AVUE) and to many schools that you all don't want to hear about. I will graduate this December with my BA in Psychology. How does this stack up to the rest of you guys? Do I even have a chance. :confused:


the sf 86-dont do anything like that until they tell you to do it.....you have alot of expeirence....its a long process....just look at this forum and see how people are.....

[STL]

Hey tua,

By chance do you know if they are running any classes through the academy anytime soon?

[tua]

No, my friend hasn't heard of any and that is not a surprise since the process hasn't produced any offer letters to anyone recently from what I can tell by this thread. There are people who have fully completed the process who haven't heard anything in months.

[signal1]

the sf 86-dont do anything like that until they tell you to do it.....you have alot of expeirence....its a long process....just look at this forum and see how people are.....

I received an email a couple days after I submitted my application saying I met the requirements and to complete the SF 86. I was going to contact Avue and let them know I aready had a TS Interim with a pending SF 86, but it was to easy to take my printout and duplicate it for them so I did it and scanned the signature pages to go with it.

[manstown]

Have any of you guys heard, when they might be starting up some classes at the Academy? And how true is it that those guys that got hired back in 06 still haven't had a class yet? Anyone have any information on that?

That is true. They just sent a class up a few weeks ago. I think there's 2 going on. Mind you these folks were hired back in September and are just now going. There is one more class about to start. It has been full since September as well. Have 2 buddies going in that one.

[orangeshirt]

so with regards to the guys that got hired in september, what have they been doing since then? ...just administrative duties at their offices?

[STL]

Wow, Dude I'm glad I have a job, because there is no rhyme or reason for the way they do things within this agency. I have good friend who's a fam in Chicago and another in D.C. but they really can't tell me much. But keep in mind they got hired back in '01 & 02.

[manstown]

so with regards to the guys that got hired in september, what have they been doing since then? ...just administrative duties at their offices?

They've been at the office training learning before they get to the academy.

[FedLEBound]

Hey you guys. The reason the process is being held up is because of the Federal Budget. My father is a federal agent and is pretty in the know with what is happening with all agencies. His agency is also still waiting for their budget. Once the budget comes out then they will know how many will be picked up. Also there are a lot of people that just finsihed their application and are upset they haven't gotten notified or anything yet. That does suck but think of some of the guys who have been DONE for months and months and haven't heard anything. I don't post very often, just read for information like anyone else. The only thing is that the priority will go to the guys already finsihed. The guys who JUST completed their application need to realize it will be a LONG time before they are hired if and when. There's a lot of competition out there. Guys with Masters and double bachelors with years of experience in line to go. Even if you have an active TS clearance from somewhere else like many of us do, they will still do their own background. The bottom line is calling Avue and FAMS will not expedite the process. If they want you, they will call you. Sorry to sound so rude to everyone I just wanted to give my two cents. My apologies if I offended anyone.

[JamaicanLP]

I just got a letter asking me to get my fingerprints taken. For those that have completed the process, after you did that, did you hear anything else pretty quickly? I applied back in 05, that this is basically the only communication ive had, except for some emails. Im just wondering if everyone is asked to get their prints done.

Thanks guys,
Steve

I'm in the same boat as you.....I just got a letter asking the same thing to get my prints done.The only difference i see is that I didn't apply in '05 like you.I did my app around November 06 i believe, and I have a panel review this week.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

The Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS) Office of Personnel and Training is announcing amendments to current merit promotion opportunities as listed below. Amendments include updated duty location information for available vacancies. The information pertaining to these vacancy announcements is also accessible on the FAMS Intranet home page at

The announcements listed below continue to be open and posted on USAJOBS. Interested employees may view all FAMS announcements and apply for positions by visiting the Office of Personnel Management's USAJOBS site at.

FAMS announcements are also accessible by logging into the AVUE Technologies at www.famsjobs.us. Employees holding AVUE accounts are reminded that they can activate an e-mail notification feature tailored to their career interests, and designed to alert employees of pre-specified announcements at the time they open.

Directions on how to apply for positions, in addition to duties, KSAOs, qualifications requirements, and other specifics regarding vacancies are available on both sites.

FAMS-FLD-05-0002

Federal Air Marshal, SV-1801-G/H/I
Area of Consideration: Open to All U.S. Citizens
Duty Location: Multiple Locations
Opening Date: July 2, 2005
Closing Date: Open Continuous



FAMS-FLD-06-0031

Federal Air Marshal, SV-1801-G/H/I
Area of Consideration: Open to Current OLE/FAMS and TSA Employees
Duty Location: Multiple Locations
Opening Date: January 12, 2006
Closing Date: Open Continuous
__________________

[dnehack]

INTHEAIRCOP, does this mean with them advertising all these jobs that they will start hiring again soon??? I know you dont know for sure, but what do you think?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I guess they are hirring now. They are still testing. A friend of mine has a interview next month. I put a word in for him.

[dnehack]

INTHEAIRCOP, I sent you a PM

[jrnwaarmy]

I guess they are hirring now. They are still testing. A friend of mine has a interview next month. I put a word in for him.


I'm not really sure if this is a good news, how about those people been waiting since last year? Done with everything( medical, pta etc...),....My time line is i'm done w/ everything since aug 06. now what?...Well ill wait like everybody else..back in line!

Just wanna thank intheaircop for giving us the first hand info. thank you SIR! whoaaa!!!

[FedLEBound]

Hey everyone, I spoke with my recruiter today to check in and he told me that the list for hiring is moving. There are thousands of applicants and it just takes time. The list is moving he said and the budget is what the hold-up is for hiring. However they still have more than enough funds for hiring.

[dnehack]

FedLEBound, keep the good news coming. I only have three weeks to go!!!!

[FedLEBound]

dneHack,

3 weeks to what? And I will.

[dnehack]

I sent you a PM!

[STL]

Just got a quick question for you guys? (and FedLEBound don't bite my head off) I was wondering when you guys set up your panel interview, who contacted you? was it Avue or FAMS? Thanks guys.

[dnehack]

STL that was set up from the FO that you are located near. Hope this helps.

[STL]

Cool so I will be looking for someone from the ORD Field Office to contact me then. Yeah that help out a lot. Take care and good luck

[Lazer]

We are all antsy, especially us that have been waiting since 2005 since we applied and are done with the process since the summer/fall of 2006. The next 2-3 months will supply answers. Let's roll!

[dnehack]

I sure hope you are right. I am ready to roll.

[manstown]

Buddy of mine just finished yesterday. He was told that he'll be getting a call within the week. Said calls will be going out within the next month. Good luck everyone.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I must be the man that has some pull in my office. I sent a e-mail to my supervisor about a good friend of mine who put in for a postion as a FAM in December. I saw my supervisor 2 weeks ago and he asked me about my friend and I spilled the beans. Well my boss made a call and my friend was scheduled for an interview a week later. And guess what, I am on the board but I will be replaced when my firend shows up. "I guess I do have the force" It helps if you are close friends with a FAM. Anyone want to be my friend?

[tua]

Sure can't hurt to have another FAM for a friend hahaha lol

[igneous]

I must be the man that has some pull in my office. I sent a e-mail to my supervisor about a good friend of mine who put in for a postion as a FAM in December. I saw my supervisor 2 weeks ago and he asked me about my friend and I spilled the beans. Well my boss made a call and my friend was scheduled for an interview a week later. And guess what, I am on the board but I will be replaced when my firend shows up. "I guess I do have the force" It helps if you are close friends with a FAM. Anyone want to be my friend?
I'm in desperate need for a friend right now :)
I'd love to know why avue sent me an email last summer that I was turned down for the job, two days later I get a Psych Recert email from the fams medical, and then a week ago I get a recert email. Any thoughts? :D

[Ammo22]

I'm in desperate need for a friend right now :)
I'd love to know why avue sent me an email last summer that I was turned down for the job, two days later I get a Psych Recert email from the fams medical, and then a week ago I get a recert email. Any thoughts? :D

Maybe you have some friends you are unaware of???

[rugermk2]

Anyone want to be my friend?

Me! Pick me! :D

[spookysco]

Panel interviews are going on in Denver this week.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

interviews are going on also in south Florida

[manstown]

Just to keep up. My buddy that finished everything Tuesday, just got the call for him to fax in his transcripts. When I got that call, I was offered the job later that day. Hang in there guys!

[Lazer]

I must be the man that has some pull in my office. I sent a e-mail to my supervisor about a good friend of mine who put in for a postion as a FAM in December. I saw my supervisor 2 weeks ago and he asked me about my friend and I spilled the beans. Well my boss made a call and my friend was scheduled for an interview a week later. And guess what, I am on the board but I will be replaced when my firend shows up. "I guess I do have the force" It helps if you are close friends with a FAM. Anyone want to be my friend?


I just sent you a PM

[dtown101]

Just to keep up. My buddy that finished everything Tuesday, just got the call for him to fax in his transcripts. When I got that call, I was offered the job later that day. Hang in there guys!

what about the people who have been done since aug 06 and still waiting and dont have to go to artesia for phase one....any thoughts

[JamaicanLP]

interviews are going on also in south Florida

Panels are going on in Atlanta also.

[manstown]

what about the people who have been done since aug 06 and still waiting and dont have to go to artesia for phase one....any thoughts

He doesn't have to go either. Not sure why he's moving this quickly.??? I can't answer that.

[Hitz]

i hope hiring begins soon

[INTHEAIRCOP]

"you have to have a friend on the inside"

[igneous]

"you have to have a friend on the inside"
I know you probably don't know too much about avue, but do you have any thoughts on why they sent me a DQ email, and yet I get a psych recert email from the fams a couple days later, and then last week I got the recert email from avue? Theres noone out there that seems to know anything

[Supersonic527]

I know you probably don't know too much about avue, but do you have any thoughts on why they sent me a DQ email, and yet I get a psych recert email from the fams a couple days later, and then last week I got the recert email from avue? Theres noone out there that seems to know anything

Igneous,

I was sent the "thanks but no thanks letter" right after my pysch interview back in july. I called around to confirm and no one really had an answer for why it was sent other than I wasn't qualified. About a month later, I received a call from my recruiter asking me to take the PTA. The issue at why I was sent the email was never cleared up. If you have any further questions, PM me.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

It seems AVUE has no idea what the heck is going on. Just keep in contact with your recruiter.

[Lazer]

Hey guys, just got the call today from DC Headquarters to fax in my transcripts and issue a statement for my background. Rock and roll!!!!!!!!!

[Patrio72]

Congrats! Can you explain what you mean by issue a statement for your background? Is this done on Avue?

Thanks,

Patriot72

[STL]

Congrats Lazer!!!! Did you get an EOD date yet? and what field office will you be working out of? Good Luck

[MassVet]

No, that is not "the call" that is the one that is rumored to be right before your package goes to the hiring panel. I had that a long long time ago, before my psych, pat, psych recert and app recert. It seems like things are moving along, not fast enough for some!


I also had to write a statement. It was for a past DUI that I had when I was in the service. I just typed it up as it happened and included everything to back up my statement.


that is all.

[igneous]

No, that is not "the call" that is the one that is rumored to be right before your package goes to the hiring panel. I had that a long long time ago, before my psych, pat, psych recert and app recert. It seems like things are moving along, not fast enough for some!


I also had to write a statement. It was for a past DUI that I had when I was in the service. I just typed it up as it happened and included everything to back up my statement.


that is all.
Yeah I got that "call" last summer. Then I got a DQ email, and then I got psych recert email. The way things are run puzzles me.

[dtown101]

Hey guys, just got the call today from DC Headquarters to fax in my transcripts and issue a statement for my background. Rock and roll!!!!!!!!!


thats not the call

been their done that....waiting since aug 06 but that is a good sign

[manstown]

thats not the call

been their done that....waiting since aug 06 but that is a good sign


When you get that call from a 609 area code, that's when you can expect the last call.....the call.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Lucky for you guys we no longer do this test.



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5) From the low ready. Fire one round at two targets three yards apart in 1.65 seconds.

6) From the low ready. Fire one round, slide locks back; drop to one knee; reload; fire one more round in 4.00 seconds.

7) From a concealed holster. 180 degree pivot. Face 180 degrees away from three targets. Fire one round each at the three targets in 3.5 seconds.

This is all done from the 7 yard line.


I had 3 trys to pass this when I was in the Air Marshal academy or I was sent home with no job. I failed it on the first two trys but passed on the final try.
__________________

[HDbluelite]

thats not the call

been their done that....waiting since aug 06 but that is a good sign


Ditto.....I've been done with the process since October 06, after I got the transcripts and statement call. Good luck to all that are still surviving!

[Lazer]

You are all correct, it is not "the call" but at least it is a sign for all of us that things are moving forward. Like I said a few threads ago, they are half way through the fiscal year and have not hired anyone yet for 2007, things are now moving guys. The statement I have to submit is a 2 liner saying I experimented with Marijuana 1 time while on a trip to Amsterdam in 1999 while in college doing an internship in England. The guy on the phone from Headquarters was laughing when he told me, it is just for the file.

Anyway, let's see what happens.

[tdparmel]

Lucky for you guys we no longer do this test.



Tactical Pistol Course

1) From the holstered postion. Draw concealed weapon and fire 1 round in 1.65 seconds.

2) From the low ready. Double tap in 1.35 seconds

3) 6 round rhythm. From the low ready. Fire 6 rounds in 3.00 seconds with no more than 0.6 seconds between each shot.

4) From the low ready. Fire one shot, reload, and fire one more shot in 3.25 seconds

5) From the low ready. Fire one round at two targets three yards apart in 1.65 seconds.

6) From the low ready. Fire one round, slide locks back; drop to one knee; reload; fire one more round in 4.00 seconds.

7) From a concealed holster. 180 degree pivot. Face 180 degrees away from three targets. Fire one round each at the three targets in 3.5 seconds.

This is all done from the 7 yard line.


I had 3 trys to pass this when I was in the Air Marshal academy or I was sent home with no job. I failed it on the first two trys but passed on the final try.
__________________


When you get the job and go to the office do they issue you a firearm? Or do you have to wait until you finish the academy? It would be nice to be able to practice.

[manstown]

There's not going to be anybody that gives you a weapon without finishing the academy and qualifying. If you want to practice you can go to your nearest range and rent a weapon. And trust me, you will get plenty of it if you get to the academy.

[dtown101]

There's not going to be anybody that gives you a weapon without finishing the academy and qualifying. If you want to practice you can go to your nearest range and rent a weapon. And trust me, you will get plenty of it if you get to the academy.

to all that isnt law enforcement at this time....a agency will never give you a weapon until you have qualified with and also be sworn in with that agency...it is a huge liability ...

[mbmx13]

I submitted all 3 release forms using Avue and faxed my required documents to them. Am I missing something? What am I supposed to do with the medical forms? Do I have to go see my own doctor? or theirs?

Forgive me if it was posted earlier but I have been up all night working and would like to finish the process before I go to sleep.

Any help would be appreciated!

Former city cop,

Stuckinsecurity

[Supersonic527]

I submitted all 3 release forms using Avue and faxed my required documents to them. Am I missing something? What am I supposed to do with the medical forms? Do I have to go see my own doctor? or theirs?

Forgive me if it was posted earlier but I have been up all night working and would like to finish the process before I go to sleep.

Any help would be appreciated!

Former city cop,

Stuckinsecurity
As far as I know, you shouldn't be missing anything. They will tell you what to do with your medical forms when the time comes. Some you will have signed by your doctor to give to the doctor that does your FAMS medical exam. Others you will simply take with your to your FAMS doctor to complete during the exam.

[manstown]

When I went through the process, I never had medical forms. The only medical I had was for the medical evaluation. The ones they sent me I never turned in.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

When you get the job and go to the office do they issue you a firearm? Or do you have to wait until you finish the academy? It would be nice to be able to practice.


I do not know how they do it now. When I got the job back in the day they gave us our creds at graduation and the last thing we picked up was our weapon at the front gate out of Artesia.

[manstown]

Same today. Except it's issued after Phase II. Before you leave training.

[Ammo22]

About the call for your transcripts. I got that call back in September before I completed the Psych eval and PTA. I dont think it really means anything except that they are still processing your application. I also had to write a statement about my drug usage and fax that along with the transcripts. The FAMS just need something official in detail as to the circumstances of what happened when you did what you did. As far as I know the process for the FAMS never really stopped. Its just that nobody has been hired.

[Patrio72]

I actually was called for my transcripts twice; once in September and again in November 2006. They did not ask for a statement regarding experimental use of marijuana in college even though I did disclose it on the various forms. (The reason for that may be that it happened 11 years ago?) If I had to guess, those of you that are issuing statements must have done something within the last 7 - 10 years. :confused:

Patriot72

[Hitz]

What i have recently discovered is that the hiring panel is conducted on thursdays and that packets are being sent before the panel again.

[manstown]

If I'm not mistaken. They're convening on Tuesday's as well.

[McPhenius]

There was a big promotional spurt here for those positions

[Supersonic527]

As far as I know the process for the FAMS never really stopped. Its just that nobody has been hired.

I agree with Ammo. They are still probably making hiring decisions at the meetings HR has on Tuesdays and Thursdays as Hitz and manstown have referred too. They are just simply not calling anyone yet. The call for transcript requests is throwing everyone off because in the past it has indicated getting "the call" very shortly after. Having said that, I hope I'm dead wrong and some calls finally go out. :cool:

[manstown]

In regards to the call about the transcripts. The call from a 202 number.....not the one before the call. The call for the transcripts from a 609 number....a very good call.

[Patrio72]

My call for transcripts came from area code 703. The caller ID on my cell phone just had "703".

Patriot72

[Lazer]

In regards to the call about the transcripts. The call from a 202 number.....not the one before the call. The call for the transcripts from a 609 number....a very good call.


609 number??? What area is that by the way? A 202 number is also DC. My call on Friday was from 703, FAMS Headquarters in DC. The guy that called to ask questions about my current job and college transcripts is actually good friends with my best friend that is a FAM in DC, small world. He said to send them in ASAP.

[tua]

609 is New Jersey, the Atlantic City Field office

[abruner]

The postion for Air Marshal is now open. They will hire about 240 new Fams. But the bad news is all new hires will goto the D.C. or N.Y. office. The pay is good but I would not move to those two offices. Good luck to all who apply because you will need it if you get the postion.

I applied. They actually go through a recruiting website known as "Avue". I got my application, background, interview and fingerprints completed then decided I didnt want to fly 24 hrs a day. The oral interview was 2 states away! It is hard to maintain a family or a home based on the conditions of employment for the FAM's. Good luck though. The website took me 6 hours to complete. :)

[manstown]

609 is New Jersey, the Atlantic City Field office
Not the Atlantic City FO. The 609 number calling for the paperwork is HR. That's who you can get excitd about seeing on caller ID when looking for paperwork..

[tua]

HR in New Jersey then because a 609 area code is definetely New Jersey and it's the area code that I got my call from for my initial interview at the Atlantic City FO.

[manstown]

I applied. They actually go through a recruiting website known as "Avue". I got my application, background, interview and fingerprints completed then decided I didnt want to fly 24 hrs a day. The oral interview was 2 states away! It is hard to maintain a family or a home based on the conditions of employment for the FAM's. Good luck though. The website took me 6 hours to complete. :)

I can assure you, you don't fly 24 hours a day. Not even close. And I have a family. I'm home more now then I was when I was in the military and a Police Officer. That message you responded to is over a year old. He was just letting people know. I won't say......but he may be a FAM. Just a guess....

[manstown]

HR in New Jersey then because a 609 area code is definetely New Jersey and it's the area code that I got my call from for my initial interview at the Atlantic City FO.
That is correct. It is in NJ. When the 609 number calls for the forms.....that's the good call. The one in DC is irrelevant.

[Lazer]

Yeah, you must have been called by the NJ FO due to your location. Like myself, I live in the Boston area and went through the Boston Office for everything, well except for the call on Friday that was from FAMS Headquarters in the DC area, weird, can't figure it out.

[tua]

does anybody know, for those of us who have not completed the process, when they will begin doing the fit, med, and psych tests again or if they will at all??

[Supersonic527]

does anybody know, for those of us who have not completed the process, when they will begin doing the fit, med, and psych tests again or if they will at all??

No idea. I would say when actual calls go out for hiring.

[igneous]

doesn't the PTA expire? For those of us who did it a long time ago will we have to do it again before being hired?

[Supersonic527]

doesn't the PTA expire? For those of us who did it a long time ago will we have to do it again before being hired?

I've heard different answers on this one. When I asked my recruiter about the PTA expiring after 120 days and would I have to retake it, he replied it's possible you might. I believe in some other forums it was thought that you would not have to retake it. I would suggest continuing your exercise routine like you will have to retake it, because if you don't retake it as an applicant you'll be doing it when you are hired in at the FO anyways.

[igneous]

I've heard different answers on this one. When I asked my recruiter about the PTA expiring after 120 days and would I have to retake it, he replied it's possible you might. I believe in some other forums it was thought that you would not have to retake it. I would suggest continuing your exercise routine like you will have to retake it, because if you don't retake it as an applicant you'll be doing it when you are hired in at the FO anyways.
I took mine about 9-10 months ago. I dont even know if I'm in this process anymore due to a bunch of conflicting emails. I'm actually in much better shape now than I was at that time. I'm basically just going on as if I never applied, and if I get the job great, if I hear nothing its not the end of the world.

[Bullboy11]

You will take the QFA 5 time while in training ( 4 at FAM Phase 2) ( 1 at FLETC) and also 2 PEB Physical Fitness tests while at FLETC. That makes 7 total in 16 weeks !!! So stay in shape!

[Supersonic527]

I saw on another forum that some ICE applicants were getting the call. At least we're now in the same Department. Maybe this will open up the flood gates...

[jrnwaarmy]

i talked to my FO here in california and the good thing she's saying is the recertification of my application,basically no solid answer when FAM will call the people who finished the process last year.. :(

[dnehack]

I talked to some big wigs yesterday in HR and I was basically told that it looks like hiring will presume later in FY 07 than earlier in 07. It didnt sound good at all as far as FAMS to start hiring anytime soon. Prepare for a long FY 07. They did say that things could change at anytime but didnt sound good at all!!

[Tower]

I talked to some big wigs yesterday in HR and I was basically told that it looks like hiring will presume later in FY 07 than earlier in 07. It didnt sound good at all as far as FAMS to start hiring anytime soon. Prepare for a long FY 07. They did say that things could change at anytime but didnt sound good at all!!

Did they specify as to why hiring is being delayed?

[FedLEBound]

I talked to some big wigs yesterday in HR and I was basically told that it looks like hiring will presume later in FY 07 than earlier in 07. It didnt sound good at all as far as FAMS to start hiring anytime soon. Prepare for a long FY 07. They did say that things could change at anytime but didnt sound good at all!!


I too spoke with a close friend of mine in HR this afternoon and he told me he just left a meeting with all members of the hiring panel and said a big push will commence in about 2 months. Those being hired are those who have already completed their phases and those have received a highly recommended panel interview will be processed very quickly to finish the process so by their next push which will be this summer there will be a new group. They are still making decisions on who to hire and since the budget and whatever else is holding up hiring, they have generated a list so if you're done then you already may be on the list. A select few will also move through the process very fast based on qualifications.

[dnehack]

Nope sorry guys, that is all they said! I am just an applicant like the rest of you guys. They are not going to tell me why or anything that they wouldnt tell the rest of you.

[Supersonic527]

I too spoke with a close friend of mine in HR this afternoon and he told me he just left a meeting with all members of the hiring panel and said a big push will commence in about 2 months.

It'd be nice if they notify those already on the list for hire that they'll be bringing them on in a few month's time, but for now just sit tight :rolleyes: . I know that's laughable, but it's nice to dream.

[FedLEBound]

It'd be nice if they notify those already on the list for hire that they'll be bringing them on in a few month's time, but for now just sit tight :rolleyes: . I know that's laughable, but it's nice to dream.

You know I mentioned that to them as well. I'm on an extension right now with the Coast Guard waiting and I asked what the notice is for new hires and he said they target for 30 days. That's moving fast to get out....but plausible. My buddy's a good guy and he knows his stuff. Anything new comes up he calls.

[dtown101]

Fedlebound>>>

so what you are saying that the people who have completed everything that it looks promising????

[igneous]

Fedlebound>>>

so what you are saying that the people who have completed everything that it looks promising????
I can't imagine how many of us there are. I have a feeling there will be quite a bit of competition for however many spots they have available

[Patrio72]

I asked what the notice is for new hires and he said they target for 30 days. That's moving fast to get out....but plausible.

I am going to assume that this means that applicants who have completed the process will be given 30 days notice to report to their FO? Or are you saying that calls will be going out in 30 days? The rumored hiring delay is disappointing but it happens...

I agree that they should keep applicants in the loop more than they have. It does get confusing when Avue updates the job posting and asks everyone to recertify. Then, hiring is postponed 2 weeks later? Oh well, there is only 7 months left in FY 07!

Patriot72

[Supersonic527]

I can't imagine how many of us there are. I have a feeling there will be quite a bit of competition for however many spots they have available

I'm sure there's a good amount that makes for some good competition. I've looked at the last 7 months as a good sign that I haven't been slipped the thin letter. Something to remember though, there's no telling how many people didn't recertify their application.

[dtown101]

I can't imagine how many of us there are. I have a feeling there will be quite a bit of competition for however many spots they have available


who on this forum doesnt have to go to phase 1 becasue of their training background?

[dnehack]

I have some good news well as for me it is good news!! After a long meeting with my 1SG, BN SGM and Brigade SGM they said they will let me out of my deployment if I receive the call before 1 July. That is awesome news since I was first told I was locked in as of 1 March. I know some of you dont know whats going on with me but for some that do, thanks for the support!

[DWCgrad]

I'm sure there's a good amount that makes for some good competition. I've looked at the last 7 months as a good sign that I haven't been slipped the thin letter. Something to remember though, there's no telling how many people didn't recertify their application.


1st post. I've followed this forum since July06. I interviewed in july06 and finished everything in Oct06. Everything went very fast. It seemed like they were rushing us through then-- nothing. I am going to be over the cut off for age in Oct 07--so i hope i hear something soon. Yes, I think there are hundreds of us in each region.

[Lazer]

Welcome DWC, another fellow applicant from Mass. Did you get a call yet to fax in transcripts and answer questions about employment, background, etc...??? I got one last Friday.

[Supersonic527]

Buddy of mine just finished yesterday. He was told that he'll be getting a call within the week. Said calls will be going out within the next month. Good luck everyone.

Manstown,

Has your buddy heard anything back yet?

[horse]

its obvious that the majority of us on this board are qualified.otherwise there would not be so many anxious people here.the only prob is that same majority will not be getting the FAMS job.i feel like thats the reality of it.JMO

[FedLEBound]

To answer the question of 30 days, that will be the amount of time to report to the FO. Another important item to remember is that yes there are a lot of qualified applicants. But there are also a lot of people leaving, transferring, or retiring and that is a fact. If anyone has ever been in the military or waited to get in then they know this. When you sign your enlistment papers to go to Boot Camp, you wait your turn in line to go to the next open class. That's all this is as was explained to me. If you're in line with a bunch of guys with similar qualifications or closesly the same, maybe a little better or worse, your place won't change. However guys that will move through faster, very rarely though are guys with huge LE experience, Masters Degree, and impecable record in municipal and federal LE. In rare cases such as those they might be the only ones to move faster. Everyone else, we are like cows moving through the line at milk line waitig for our farmer to milk us.

[Penumbra]

I can't wait to be milked :p

[horse]

some good points.you are right FED

[Tower]

Yeah milk me too my teets are ready!

[FedLEBound]

You guys are all sick in the head! :p

[DWCgrad]

Welcome DWC, another fellow applicant from Mass. Did you get a call yet to fax in transcripts and answer questions about employment, background, etc...??? I got one last Friday.

I faxed in my transcripts and already answered some employment questions back in Sep06. Just waiting to hear something

[ignignokt373]

I just spent the last 4 hours with two of my buddies that work as FAMs. They have no idea when the agency is going to hire more folks. They just hope that is is soon as their office is low on folks.

From what they told me. Be ready to fly....and fly a lot.

They also told me to don't expect to be kicking in doors, arresting folks or getting promotions to JFT's or other gigs. Just be ready to fly......fly a lot.

Good luck to all of those that are applying.

[dtown101]

when they call asking for transcripts its to see how much moola they will eventually offer you....college grad = more $$

whoever is done with process will get first dibbs on the hiring process and then they will continue with the rest of the applicants who need to finish....it also depends on the applicants background and if the person has law enforcement exp. and who eventually save them the most money example-someone who would only have to go to Phase II....

[manstown]

The money thing isn't necessarily true. I was offered the same amount of money as a few people on my old department, and they had degrees and I didn't. But as far as the training issue, you are correct.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

It realy does not matter if some guy gets a few thousand dollars more then another guy. Once you all top out at the I band then you will all make the same amount. So I would not worry about the money.

[Supersonic527]

When brought it at the G band, is it common or not to get the minimum $36,400 for base pay?

[manstown]

Depends on what your experience is. It was common in my class. If you want the job, be careful what you ask for. just remember, there are many people that will take the first offer.

[Supersonic527]

Depends on what your experience is. It was common in my class. If you want the job, be careful what you ask for. just remember, there are many people that will take the first offer.

Yeah, definitely not going to be picky with the salary. As long as there's 5 digits and the first one's a 3, I won't be complaining. Appreciate the info, manstown.

[0351]

Yeah, definitely not going to be picky with the salary. As long as there's 5 digits and the first one's a 3, I won't be complaining. Appreciate the info, manstown.
30k-40k a year in NY or DC is peanuts, in fact if that's all you made you would probably end up taking peanuts off the plane to have for dinner.
That said, even if your base is 36,400 you'll break 50k after locality and LEAP. And then there's per diem, oh yeah :D

[Supersonic527]

30k-40k a year in NY or DC is peanuts, in fact if that's all you made you would probably end up taking peanuts off the plane to have for dinner.
That said, even if your base is 36,400 you'll break 50k after locality and LEAP. And then there's per diem, oh yeah :D

If offered, I expect the minimum base of 36,400. Will they explain to you what your actual salary will be closer to with locality and LEAP as 0351 just did?

[Ammo22]

Don't count your eggs before they hatch. Dont worry about salary for a job you dont have. If you do get hired live in Jersey less taxes and there is transportation to and from NY 24/7. Besides cheaper taxes in NJ except for Car Insurance which is highest in the nation. As for DC its not much better.

[ignignokt373]

30k-40k a year in NY or DC is peanuts, in fact if that's all you made you would probably end up taking peanuts off the plane to have for dinner.
That said, even if your base is 36,400 you'll break 50k after locality and LEAP. And then there's per diem, oh yeah :D

Yeah. Come to DC and try to live on a 36K salary. Been there, done that. If you have a family, you will never make it.

My agency was kind enough to promote me to a GS-9 with the LEO pay and it did help. But, it still sucks right now.

That's why I am looking for other opportunities within my agency, the Fed Gov, and contracting.

Folks say money isn't everything.....but it sure does help when you are trying to survive.

;)

[manstown]

If offered, I expect the minimum base of 36,400. Will they explain to you what your actual salary will be closer to with locality and LEAP as 0351 just did?

When you get an offer they will tell you what the total is with LEAP and locality.

Than they will send you an agreement contract, sort of say, and it will break down your base, how much you'll get for LEAP, and than how much you'll get for Locality. I think with the minimum, it totals about 55,000. Take 25% of your base, then 20% of your base, than add the 3 totals.

And you don't have to live in the DC area. Maryland has pretty affordable housing and apartments.

[Xtreme]

interviews are going on also in south Florida

mine is scheduled for Tuesday in Orlando... wish me luck!

[tua]

Is LEAP applicable to non-1811 FAMS???

[tdparmel]

mine is scheduled for Tuesday in Orlando... wish me luck!


Good luck. It seems your process is going pretty quickly. I received my conditional offer around December 4th, 2006, I sent out my fingerprints on January 2nd or 3rd and I am still waiting for an interview. I had an expectation that the interview was usually held about a month after the fingerprint cards were returned but in my case that hasnt been true. Maybe my paperwork has been lost.

[marinecop2]

when they call asking for transcripts its to see how much moola they will eventually offer you....college grad = more $$

whoever is done with process will get first dibbs on the hiring process and then they will continue with the rest of the applicants who need to finish....it also depends on the applicants background and if the person has law enforcement exp. and who eventually save them the most money example-someone who would only have to go to Phase II....


What type and how much of law enforcement exp. would allow a new hire to only go to only phase II.

[Xtreme]

What type and how much of law enforcement exp. would allow a new hire to only go to only phase II.

just based on what i've heard, unless you've been to FLETC for a different FEDLEO job, you're goin' to phase I. in other words, local academy won't cut it.

i'm sure one of the feds will confirm this.

- mike

[drepol]

just based on what i've heard, unless you've been to FLETC for a different FEDLEO job, you're goin' to phase I. in other words, local academy won't cut it.

i'm sure one of the feds will confirm this.

- mike
yep, only prior FEDS get to skip Phase I

[manstown]

Is LEAP applicable to non-1811 FAMS???

There are no FAMs that are 1811's. There are retired 1811's that are FAM Supervisors. FAMs are 1801.

[manstown]

What type and how much of law enforcement exp. would allow a new hire to only go to only phase II.

The only way you'll skip Phase I is if you have already been to FLETC for certain Academy's.

[marinecop2]

The only way you'll skip Phase I is if you have already been to FLETC for certain Academy's.


10-4 that is what I figured...

[HDbluelite]

When you get an offer they will tell you what the total is with LEAP and locality.

Than they will send you an agreement contract, sort of say, and it will break down your base, how much you'll get for LEAP, and than how much you'll get for Locality. I think with the minimum, it totals about 55,000. Take 25% of your base, then 20% of your base, than add the 3 totals.

And you don't have to live in the DC area. Maryland has pretty affordable housing and apartments.

Do you know what people in the H band generally start out at or if offered, should I be leaning toward the bottom of the base scale?

[dnehack]

From what I have read and heard from my two friends that are FAMS most will start out at the Low G to Mid G base salary.

[manstown]

From what I have read and heard from my two friends that are FAMS most will start out at the Low G to Mid G base salary.

dneheck is correct. You won't be offered the H band. You may get offered high G. And I don't think you'd want H. If you were offered H, you would only be given one raise in your first 2 years. And when you get that raise, you would be Low I while those that received low to mid G, after 2 years, would get more money then you because they would be in the mid I band after those 2 years. Some of us that were offered high G came from Fed LE and didn't have to go to Phase I.

Now it's going to be different for all. The last thing I would do is talk about pay. Some of people are coming on now, making more then some that have been on for a couple years.

[0351]

Take 25% of your base, then 20% of your base, than add the 3 totals.
It actually works out somewhat better than that in that the LEAP is applied to your salary after locality. So it's (Base X 1.24 for New York locality) X 1.25 for LEAP.

As for your starting salary and promotions/raises, even if you have 12 years of local law enforcement, if you're only making say 40,000 a year don't expect them to offer you much more than that for your base.
If you are a mid G or a mid H (which you can be offered if you are prior fed), you will get an 8% raise when you go up a pay band, unless the bottom end of the next pay band is higher, then you get that. So even if you start out at 46,400 in the middle of G, you'll end up towards the bottom end of I.

[marinecop2]

I know it's a long shot, but, does anyone have any idea as to how many vacancies might possibly be available in the 7 field offices they have the current announcement for?

[dnehack]

Flip a coin and pull out a number. You will get a better guess or should I say just as acurate as a number as everyone else on here.

[UMDBulldog]

I started the process. I did the app. then got my COE. I filled out the background, and they said they are going to send print cards. I haven't seen them in the mail and when I called to check on them they said I was the next mailing(week ago) and said I should have gotten them early last week. I am afraid that this is the beginning of LLLLOOONNNNGGGG process. Any reasoning to this? What are people's opinions?

[dnehack]

If you read the many FAM forums you will know that you are in for a very long process. There is no rhyme or reason to the process. I know it will be hard but continue on with your day to day life. They will call and set things up on their time. If you continue to go on like you never applied it will make it go by a lot quicker!

[Supersonic527]

I started the process. I did the app. then got my COE. I filled out the background, and they said they are going to send print cards. I haven't seen them in the mail and when I called to check on them they said I was the next mailing(week ago) and said I should have gotten them early last week. I am afraid that this is the beginning of LLLLOOONNNNGGGG process. Any reasoning to this? What are people's opinions?

It could be as simple as the print cards getting lost in the mail. My recruiter gave me print cards after psych testing so our steps were a little out of order. If you don't see them in the mail by the end of the week I would call and request to send them again. For most of us this is, in fact, a long process. Dig in for the long haul. Best of luck!

[rugermk2]

From what I have read and heard from my two friends that are FAMS most will start out at the Low G to Mid G base salary.

Will a Juris Doctor (law) degree and a year + of patrol experience as a cop get me to H band?

[dnehack]

Ruger NO one on here can say for sure. If you get hired and they call you for an EOD that will be the time you say ok with the salary they are offering or is there any way to get this amount. I know you can negotiate salary but to how much and if you want to do it when you finally get the call!!

[dtown101]

I started the process. I did the app. then got my COE. I filled out the background, and they said they are going to send print cards. I haven't seen them in the mail and when I called to check on them they said I was the next mailing(week ago) and said I should have gotten them early last week. I am afraid that this is the beginning of LLLLOOONNNNGGGG process. Any reasoning to this? What are people's opinions?


Not to sound like a jerk but for the people who have finished the whole process for over 7 months ago and still havent heard anything thats a long process. with you, your still in ur baby steps of the process.....just stay focused...

[Xtreme]

applied mid January, just did panel interview today. process moving smoothly so far, but heck, it could be 4 months before i hear back!

- mike

[tua]

I had my panel back in early december, still haven't heard anything, get ready to wait.......

[marinecop2]

Had mine in early October.....still waiting

[kr1s]

Had my panel yesterday. Smooth sailing. Hopefully it went as well as I hope. If not, well, it has been a fun process thus far.

[FedLEBound]

Don't hold breath. Been done since Sep 06. I like what dtown101 said about waiting. Refer back if you don't remember.

[igneous]

I know it's a long shot, but, does anyone have any idea as to how many vacancies might possibly be available in the 7 field offices they have the current announcement for?
A guy on another forum said that somewhere around 225 for this FY

[marinecop2]

Thanks....

[INTHEAIRCOP]

dneheck is correct. You won't be offered the H band. You may get offered high G. And I don't think you'd want H. If you were offered H, you would only be given one raise in your first 2 years. And when you get that raise, you would be Low I while those that received low to mid G, after 2 years, would get more money then you because they would be in the mid I band after those 2 years. Some of us that were offered high G came from Fed LE and didn't have to go to Phase I.

Now it's going to be different for all. The last thing I would do is talk about pay. Some of people are coming on now, making more then some that have been on for a couple years.


Dude, where are you getting your info from? No new guy is comming in making more then an old fam. I have been here for 5 years and I have seen alot. Even if you come in at the mid G you will still be at the low I once you get I band or very close to it. . There was an up roar in our office back in 2004 when the guys who got hired in the mid G found out that once the low G guys caugth up, then just about everyone was being paid the same on the I band. Now there are a very small percent who are making the big bucks as I band FAMs. I know one guy who was a GS-13 and is now making about $100,000 as a I band and another guy who is at the the top of the I band making way over $100,000 (ex SF soldier). But they got on at the very begining when we could make offers to them. They offered me low G back in 2001 and I asked for $2,000 more and they gave it to me. But they do not do that anymore. If you guys get a job offer you better take it and not try to get more money. We have thousands of applicants who would do this at the low G band in a heart beat. My current salary (I Band) is just a cent over $85,000 a year. I am at the bottom of the I band. I would forget about money and just get the job first.

[dtown101]

Dude, where are you getting your info from? No new guy is comming in making more then an old fam. I have been here for 5 years and I have seen alot. Even if you come in at the mid G you will still be at the low I once you get I band or very close to it. . There was an up roar in our office back in 2004 when the guys who got hired in the mid G found out that once the low G guys caugth up, then just about everyone was being paid the same on the I band. Now there are a very small percent who are making the big bucks as I band FAMs. I know one guy who was a GS-13 and is now making about $100,000 as a I band and another guy who is at the the top of the I band making way over $100,000 (ex SF soldier). But they got on at the very begining when we could make offers to them. They offered me low G back in 2001 and I asked for $2,000 more and they gave it to me. But they do not do that anymore. If you guys get a job offer you better take it and not try to get more money. We have thousands of applicants who would do this at the low G band in a heart beat. My current salary (I Band) is just a cent over $85,000 a year. I am at the bottom of the I band. I would forget about money and just get the job first.


i agree>>>talk about all the different types of pay.....lets talk about if I get this job then ill talk about pay....for the people who have already had their panel...questions should of already been asked about the differences in the pay bands...if you didnt ask well thats ur loss at this time...G band is a good gig to be at...just remember its a good govt job that can lead up to where intheaircop is at....anyways... going to bed now ...

[dnehack]

Well I wouldnt excactly say they still dont make offers, because my best friend asked for more money and they gave it to him. Now I am not saying that I will do the same, but as of August they did up his offer when he asked.

[manstown]

Dude, where are you getting your info from? No new guy is comming in making more then an old fam. I have been here for 5 years and I have seen alot. Even if you come in at the mid G you will still be at the low I once you get I band or very close to it. . There was an up roar in our office back in 2004 when the guys who got hired in the mid G found out that once the low G guys caugth up, then just about everyone was being paid the same on the I band. Now there are a very small percent who are making the big bucks as I band FAMs. I know one guy who was a GS-13 and is now making about $100,000 as a I band and another guy who is at the the top of the I band making way over $100,000 (ex SF soldier). But they got on at the very begining when we could make offers to them. They offered me low G back in 2001 and I asked for $2,000 more and they gave it to me. But they do not do that anymore. If you guys get a job offer you better take it and not try to get more money. We have thousands of applicants who would do this at the low G band in a heart beat. My current salary (I Band) is just a cent over $85,000 a year. I am at the bottom of the I band. I would forget about money and just get the job first.

I don't like to get into it because of the uproars. But I did negotiate for a couple days and had my salary matched. It was well over $2,000. When my old partner found out how much I was making he flipped out. He's been on for a few years and I was just hired last year. With LEAP and Locality I make close to what I assume is your base.

[dnehack]

I know its hard to believe but its the new world and that is the way it goes. Its just like in football with the coaches. You have a coach that has been a head coach for 15-20 and is proven and a new head coach comes in and is making more than the one that has been there for 15-20 years. Its all about yourself and to see what you can get. I know not everyone will get what they ask but I know some do!!

[marinecop2]

Those of you that have finished the entire process, were you contacted by phone or email in regards to scheduling your medical and pta?

[Supersonic527]

I was contacted by phone for both.

[HDbluelite]

Those of you that have finished the entire process, were you contacted by phone or email in regards to scheduling your medical and pta?


I was contacted by phone for both as well.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I don't like to get into it because of the uproars. But I did negotiate for a couple days and had my salary matched. It was well over $2,000. When my old partner found out how much I was making he flipped out. He's been on for a few years and I was just hired last year. With LEAP and Locality I make close to what I assume is your base.

So here is my question. Once you make I band what do you think you will be paid? And if you are being paid the big bucks I would think you have alot of background or a masters or something. But it does not matter to me because at the end we are all doing the same job.

[Xtreme]

personally, if offered the job i am taking it... i don't care if its a dag'um F band! as has been said, there are plenty of guys that just want a shot at getting hired. $2000 a year isn't worth it to me to risk them saying thanks but no thanks.

- mike

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Also I was on the board today and interviewed 3 guys. We passed 2 and failed one. I had fun and love having the power to place yout future in my hands. I was surprised of the questions we had to ask you guys. I am not sure who up north picked these questions but they do get you thinking.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

personally, if offered the job i am taking it... i don't care if its a dag'um F band! as has been said, there are plenty of guys that just want a shot at getting hired. $2000 a year isn't worth it to me to risk them saying thanks but no thanks.

- mike


I SECOND THAT!

[Supersonic527]

personally, if offered the job i am taking it... i don't care if its a dag'um F band! as has been said, there are plenty of guys that just want a shot at getting hired. $2000 a year isn't worth it to me to risk them saying thanks but no thanks.

- mike

Amen. I'd take it in a heartbeat too. I'm more worried about location that salary.

[Xtreme]

Also I was on the board today and interviewed 3 guys. We passed 2 and failed one. I had fun and love having the power to place yout future in my hands. I was surprised of the questions we had to ask you guys. I am not sure who up north picked these questions but they do get you thinking.

i wonder how you fail the oral board????? i didn't find it that difficult. pretty standard LEO stuff not unlike my boards with the local agencies.
that dude must've just said some ridiculous things.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

i wonder how you fail the oral board????? i didn't find it that difficult. pretty standard LEO stuff not unlike my boards with the local agencies.
that dude must've just said some ridiculous things.

just not the kind of guy you want as any officer in any agency.

[Xtreme]

just not the kind of guy you want as any officer in any agency.

gotcha. i obviously don't know how i scored out, but one of 'em said my interview was refreshing... i take that as a good thing. plus, they had me do my drug screen right afterwards. overall a pretty good day.

[Patrio72]

I logged in to my Avue account tonight and almost immediately noticed that the "Print and Sign Required Documents" section has been cleaned up. I used to have scroll down almost a full screen but now everything fits in one screen. All of the medical examination information is now gone. (I took my med exam back in early September 06). There was also a paragraph which is now gone which started out, " You have completed the first phase of the hiring process..."

All that remains are links to the signed release forms (Medical, BI, Credit Check), documents I can view (SF88, SF93 & Components of Physical Examination) and this:

You will be notified at a later time to schedule your physical examination with FAMS. The following forms are available for you to take to that physical examination.
Report of Medical History (SF93)
Report of Medical Examination (SF88)
Components of Physical Examination

Should I be concerned that my Avue profile was cleaned up or is this a good sign?

Patriot72

[marinecop2]

Patriot72,

How far along are you? From what you said I gather your up to the pta correct? I checked mine tonight on Avue and there are no changes. I can still see my application and other information. Depending on how far along you are this could be a good sign.

[Supersonic527]

He finished the process in December. I told him to not worry about it in another forum.

[Tower]

I logged in to my Avue account tonight and almost immediately noticed that the "Print and Sign Required Documents" section has been cleaned up. I used to have scroll down almost a full screen but now everything fits in one screen. All of the medical examination information is now gone. (I took my med exam back in early September 06). There was also a paragraph which is now gone which started out, " You have completed the first phase of the hiring process..."

All that remains are links to the signed release forms (Medical, BI, Credit Check), documents I can view (SF88, SF93 & Components of Physical Examination) and this:

You will be notified at a later time to schedule your physical examination with FAMS. The following forms are available for you to take to that physical examination.
Report of Medical History (SF93)
Report of Medical Examination (SF88)
Components of Physical Examination

Should I be concerned that my Avue profile was cleaned up or is this a good sign?

Patriot72

Mine says the same thing. Believe it or not Avue is taking steps to give more timely and accurate info in the FAMS hiring process. It probably came down from HR to help keep a few less phone calls coming their way. Apparently Avue is trying to be a bit more accurate as to where your application stands within the system. It has just started getting more attention...we'll see how it goes.

[manstown]

So here is my question. Once you make I band what do you think you will be paid? And if you are being paid the big bucks I would think you have alot of background or a masters or something. But it does not matter to me because at the end we are all doing the same job.

I agree 100%. Don't want to get in a ****ing match over pay. Just helping people out with information.

[Patrio72]

Mine says the same thing. Believe it or not Avue is taking steps to give more timely and accurate info in the FAMS hiring process. It probably came down from HR to help keep a few less phone calls coming their way. Apparently Avue is trying to be a bit more accurate as to where your application stands within the system. It has just started getting more attention...we'll see how it goes.

Thanks for the replies. Super is correct; I have been done since early Dec. 06. I got so used to seeing the same information on Avue everytime I logged in. When I logged in last night, half of it was gone. It was a little strange and made me wonder. Back to waiting...

Patriot72

[manstown]

I will say this. Logging on to AVUE isn't going to help you understand where you are in the scheme of things. It's no longer in their hands. It's HR that's doing everything from here on out. Just to let you know, my FAMS application still says pending. I was hired last year. AVUE isn't the hiring entity. They're just the ones providing the application service. You won't know if HR is considering you or where you are in the process anywhere on the AVUE site.

[Patrio72]

I will say this. Logging on to AVUE isn't going to help you understand where you are in the scheme of things. It's no longer in their hands. It's HR that's doing everything from here on out. Just to let you know, my FAMS application still says pending. I was hired last year. AVUE isn't the hiring entity. They're just the ones providing the application service. You won't know if HR is considering you or where you are in the process anywhere on the AVUE site.

And that is what makes it so weird. If Avue is no longer processing my application, why would they go in now and bother making any changes? (I do periodically check just to make there are no new forms I need to fill out and fax in). You never know...

Patriot72

[Supersonic527]

And that is what makes it so weird. If Avue is no longer processing my application, why would they go in now and bother making any changes? (I do periodically check just to make there are no new forms I need to fill out and fax in). You never know...

Patriot72

It's probably for the benefit of AVUE and not FAMS HR. Once a decision is made on hiring/rejecting you from the hiring panel, I would guess they don't go back and call Avue. Once your application hits a certain point Avue is done with you anyways. The fact that some current FAMs can still log into their Avue account and see "no hiring decision made" says it all. Avue might actually be getting their act together.

[mbmx13]

I applied back in January and I think that I completed everything on Avue but it isn't very clear what I should do next. Can someone tell me what documents you had to submit? I just want to make sure that they are not waiting on me to send them a document that I have not thought of.

Thanks for any help you can give me,

Reserve Police Officer Stuckinsecurity
Southern California

[dtown101]

I applied back in January and I think that I completed everything on Avue but it isn't very clear what I should do next. Can someone tell me what documents you had to submit? I just want to make sure that they are not waiting on me to send them a document that I have not thought of.

Thanks for any help you can give me,

Reserve Police Officer Stuckinsecurity
Southern California

when they want you to send more info they will tell you >>>its only been since January...your still pretty fresh in the process

[Supersonic527]

I applied back in January and I think that I completed everything on Avue but it isn't very clear what I should do next. Can someone tell me what documents you had to submit? I just want to make sure that they are not waiting on me to send them a document that I have not thought of.

Thanks for any help you can give me,

Reserve Police Officer Stuckinsecurity
Southern California

It's been a while since completing the application through Avue, but assuming you've received the COE, the SF-86 is probably next.

Dtown101 is right though, Avue will send you an email detailing what they want from you next. Best of luck!

[manstown]

And that is what makes it so weird. If Avue is no longer processing my application, why would they go in now and bother making any changes? (I do periodically check just to make there are no new forms I need to fill out and fax in). You never know...

Patriot72

Once you're done with the application on AVUE, you're done with AVUE. Anything else you need to turn in or fax is sent from HR. If they send it to AVUE, you will be notified by email. If you started the process, or finished the process, AVUE has nothing more to do with it. As far as them changing things around, I don't know. But If you at least started the process, you are done with AVUE.

[Xtreme]

Once you're done with the application on AVUE, you're done with AVUE. Anything else you need to turn in or fax is sent from HR. If they send it to AVUE, you will be notified by email. If you started the process, or finished the process, AVUE has nothing more to do with it. As far as them changing things around, I don't know. But If you at least started the process, you are done with AVUE.

so now that i've done my panel interview, essentialy its in my FO's HR's lap... avue is finished? This makes sense as some of the other guys said they recieved a phone call from the FO recruiter to schedule subsequent steps.

guess i'm waitin' on a phone call now.

- Mike

[STL]

Hey Manstown I sent you a PM

[manstown]

so now that i've done my panel interview, essentialy its in my FO's HR's lap... avue is finished? This makes sense as some of the other guys said they recieved a phone call from the FO recruiter to schedule subsequent steps.

guess i'm waitin' on a phone call now.

- Mike

It will come from the FO for the process steps. If papework is needed that will either come from DC or NJ. AVUE is just for the application and beginning paperwork only.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Director Brown was in my office today. He seems to be a great director and he is doing a lot for the agency. He is really pushing the 1811 thing. He did say that if we do get the school that we still would be classified as 1801. Now I do not really care about the number either but any further training would be great and director Brown said that the agency is real close in getting all the FAMs some sort of an investigator school. The only bad news about it was that if the agency did decide to send us to an investigation school that it would be given to the new hires and then the guys who are already flying would get it later. He also said that a college degree was not needed to get a job as a FAM and that you do not need one to be promoted to j band supervisor. Now my SAIC has said from day one that if we did not have a 4 year degree that we would never be promoted to J band supervisor. While director Brown was telling this to us my SAIC tried to butt in and he was put in his place. We were all shocked when director Brown told the SAIC that he was not finished and to sit down. We have heard rumor that our SAIC and director Brown do not see eye to eye. Also our SAIC was not even supposed to be in the room during the open forum with the director. Before the director opened it for questions all management was asked to leave the room. One of the FAMs asked the assistant director about this and she said that our SAIC would be dealt with at a latter time. They are also looking into a new weapon. I am not going to get into it because I am not sure if it is too be made public. Also the director said that the flying FAM does not get a J band promotion in the next 3-5 years then it will be almost impossible to get one. I guess what he meant was once all the old contract J band supervisors leave and the current FAMs replace them then promotions will be at a stand still.

[STL]

Hey "in the air" I sent you a pm

[dtown101]

so now that i've done my panel interview, essentialy its in my FO's HR's lap... avue is finished? This makes sense as some of the other guys said they recieved a phone call from the FO recruiter to schedule subsequent steps.

guess i'm waitin' on a phone call now.

- Mike
07/06 Applied
07/06 COE
08/04/06 (All in one day)
Panel Interview
Medical
PTA
Psyche
Finger Prints @ Dulles Airport

Now waiting to see if ill get hired

since others are giving a report of their progress thought I would tell yall how my process went.

[Supersonic527]

Here's my timeline for the process that some of you new applicants can look at:

Applied 12/05
COE 1/06
Panel 3/06
Med 4/06 (Vision held me up. Got LASEK and was cleared 5 weeks later)
Psych 6/06
Psy Int 7/5/06
Received "better qualified applicants" email shortly after psych interview
PTA 08/11/06

Mine and Dtown's processes are about as extreme as you'll see except the wait factor after we completed the PTA. As you can see I had a few roadblocks along the way. Even without any roadblocks, be very patient.

[Tower]

Applied and COE 5/06
Interview and Urinalysis 7/06
Medical 8/06
PTA and Psych Cert Statement 9/06

According to headquarters my packet went before the board mid October.

[marinecop2]

Here's my timeline for the process that some of you new applicants can look at:

Applied 12/05
COE 1/06
Panel 3/06
Med 4/06 (Vision held me up. Got LASEK and was cleared 5 weeks later)
Psych 6/06
Psy Int 7/5/06
Received "better qualified applicants" email shortly after psych interview
PTA 08/11/06

Mine and Dtown's processes are about as extreme as you'll see except the wait factor after we completed the PTA. As you can see I had a few roadblocks along the way. Even without any roadblocks, be very patient.

Just a quick question. After you received your "bqa" letter what did you do from there? Obviously, you continued on. But, what steps did you take? Who'd you call to find out about it?

[marinecop2]

Applied and COE 5/06
Interview and Urinalysis 7/06
Medical 8/06
PTA and Psych Cert Statement 9/06

According to headquarters my packet went before the board mid October.


Are they no longer conducting full length psych interviews anymore or are they just doing a quick psych cert statement? Did you talk to headquarters directly about your packet being looked at for consideration?

[Supersonic527]

Just a quick question. After you received your "bqa" letter what did you do from there? Obviously, you continued on. But, what steps did you take? Who'd you call to find out about it?

I called Avue first because I had heard of the emails being sent out in error or as a glitch. They knew nothing. I then called my recruiter from my FO. I don't think he was in the loop about other applicants getting the email in error. He basically said that sometimes people get DQ'ed at different stages of the process. At that point I figured it was time to call it a day.

About a month later, out of the blue, my recruiter calls me to complete my PTA. I believe they had misplaced something or it didn't make it to my file. Either way, here I am...still waiting.

As for the psych interviews, I don't believe they are conducting them anymore. Tower might be able to answer it more indepth.

[Lazer]

Applied 8/05
COE 8/6/05
Said what the heck and Refreshed my App in Avue 2/06
Received another COE 2/7/06
Fingerprints 6/12/06
Panel Interview and Drug test 7/25/06 (Recruiter said I was lucky and did not have to do Psych test, they got rid of it, 700 or so question test)
Medical 8/12/06
PAT 10/30/06
Call from DC Headquarters to send transcripts 2 weeks ago.

Waiting

[Lazer]

"When death smiles at you, all a man can do is smile back"
-Gladiator

[Tower]

Are they no longer conducting full length psych interviews anymore or are they just doing a quick psych cert statement? Did you talk to headquarters directly about your packet being looked at for consideration?

I never had to do the psych test or psych interview. The time I had my panel interview was after a certain date and the psych test and interview were not being administered for some reason. I believe they are changing requirements again so that a psych interview will be required again. I don't know for sure...

As far as my packet goes...I did speak with headquarters about it to see where I stand.

[dtown101]

I never had to do the psych test or psych interview. The time I had my panel interview was after a certain date and the psych test and interview were not being administered for some reason. I believe they are changing requirements again so that a psych interview will be required again. I don't know for sure...

As far as my packet goes...I did speak with headquarters about it to see where I stand.

march/april will be the time when they will be calling for the next wave>>>phase 1 in Artesia, NM should begin in June and Phase 2 in August in Atlantic City

[marinecop2]

march/april will be the time when they will be calling for the next wave>>>phase 1 in Artesia, NM should begin in June and Phase 2 in August in Atlantic City

That's all good news. Any word on finishing up with the applicants that have passed the interview and drug test before the fiscal year ends?

[Tower]

march/april will be the time when they will be calling for the next wave>>>phase 1 in Artesia, NM should begin in June and Phase 2 in August in Atlantic City

Nice...is that an educated guess that phase 1 will be in June or source info?

[dtown101]

Nice...is that an educated guess that phase 1 will be in June or source info?

im the all knowing powerful OZ just click ur heels three times and you will be on a plane>>>their no place like fam

[Tower]

im the all knowing powerful OZ just click ur heels three times and you will be on a plane>>>their no place like fam

click click click........damn it!

[Lazer]

Click click click, hell ya!!!!!!!!!!

[INTHEAIRCOP]

CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK????????????


Get me an office job. I have been flying for over 5 years and have not been in one of the very few office gigs or training jobs.



Oh by the way. My flight yesterday was delayed because we had to kick of 3 passengers. We were number 2 in line for lift off when 3 passengers were not being nice to eachother. So after the flight crew saw these 3 idiots get up and begin to say"I am going to slap your face!", then the Captain returned to the gate. My team and I played it safe and did not break cover untill we got back to the gate. See in this job you have to use your brains before you go the back of the plane and begin to swing your issued ASP! LOL No big deal. The Captain kicked them off, we escorted them off with no problems and I got got unpaid overtime(LEAP).?????????????

[homer]

I have recently submitted an application for the FAMS and recieved a conditional offer of employment. I then received instructions to fill out the background investigation forms and have submitted those as well. my question is that I have a DWI from January of 1999 when I was 22 years old will this disqualify me? I have a bachelor's with superior academic achievement and I am currently studying for my master's will any of this help? I also have experience living alone in Europe and can speak German and Spanish very well. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

[marinecop2]

I have recently submitted an application for the FAMS and recieved a conditional offer of employment. I then received instructions to fill out the background investigation forms and have submitted those as well. my question is that I have a DWI from January of 1999 when I was 22 years old will this disqualify me? I have a bachelor's with superior academic achievement and I am currently studying for my master's will any of this help? I also have experience living alone in Europe and can speak German and Spanish very well. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

College and languages will help, just prepare yourself for a very long process......

[dtown101]

I have recently submitted an application for the FAMS and recieved a conditional offer of employment. I then received instructions to fill out the background investigation forms and have submitted those as well. my question is that I have a DWI from January of 1999 when I was 22 years old will this disqualify me? I have a bachelor's with superior academic achievement and I am currently studying for my master's will any of this help? I also have experience living alone in Europe and can speak German and Spanish very well. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Get ready for a long process.....its been over 7yrs since ur dwi....dont worry about it...unless they want you to fly a plane i think you will be fine

[dnehack]

I dont think it will disqualify you but there are some things that they will look at like prior history and have you been involved with any other alcohol related incidents. If no then I would say you will be fine.

[homer]

Thanks for the help. That was my only run in with the police besides a speeding ticket in 1997 and when I was jumped by two thugs leaving a resturaunt and turned one guy's face into hamburger meat on a curb in 1998. I got a summons and paid a $200 fine. The thugs got nothing.

[Supersonic527]

I got a summons and paid a $200 fine. The thugs got nothing.

Unbelievable how that works out sometimes.

PGCop, does your LT know when more about the hiring date? Now that would be sick. :cool:

[manstown]

Just spoke to a LT in my reserve unit who happens to be the FAMS spokesman........1811 rumor is true. That is sick. I want this job bad now. CLICK.....CLICK......CLICK.

also to any FAMS, how long before you can get on JTTF? or other gigs.


Not too many FAMs on JTTF. The ones that are, have been on for a few years. I wouldn't hold my breath for that spot for quite a few years. And the ones that are on there, really don't do as much as you would think.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Just spoke to a LT in my reserve unit who happens to be the FAMS spokesman........1811 rumor is true. That is sick. I want this job bad now. CLICK.....CLICK......CLICK.

also to any FAMS, how long before you can get on JTTF? or other gigs.


Forget about getting a JTTF postion. It is a 3 year gig and you have to spend lots of time under someones desk to get a gig like that. Yes the 1811 rumor is some what true. director Brown said that we should get the school but they will not change the seires to 1811. Brown said that we will stay 1801s.

[UMDBulldog]

I am very thankful for everyone who has insight about the FAMS. This process really bugs me, but I think it will be worth it. I just don't want to get worked about something because it sounds like this road will be a long one. Does anyone know if they are going to speed up up the process anytime soon?

[signal1]

Well all, I know I am still in the beginning processes compared to some of you all, but I got the email last night for my interveiw in Denver. I replied with the date I would like and I got it. Soon after that, I got my confirmation email for the date and time I wanted. Instead of going back through 80 some pages, can you give me an idea what is going to happen and the kinds of questions I can expect? :confused:

I have been paying attention to what everyone is saying and I am between a rock and a hard place. I can get out of the Army this August but it isn't looking like I will be hired by then. But if I reenlist with the Army, it is an indef contract and I am not sure what it will take to get out after I sign. In the mean time, I am just applying for local PD's. :( I was a local cop up until 3 years ago when I got back in the Army to help me finish college, but as those of you who are in law enforcement know, once it is in your blood, it won't go away. I can't stay active duty any more...I need my gun and badge back!!! :D

[dnehack]

UMD, No one really knows! You have people that hear from other people that this is going to happen but I think the only ones that really know is the HIGH HIGH FAMS and I highly doubt that the HIGH HIGH FAMS are on this board!! You have some that say March, you have some that say June and you have some that say July and beyond. Flip a coin and take a guess, that will be just as good as the rest of us.