Air Marshal Job Open !

[SD5326]

B.I. contacted current employer today to verify employment.

[igneous]

B.I. contacted current employer today to verify employment.
Nice.
Still waiting to hear from avue here...Will probably call tomorrow or friday to see if the fingerprint thing has been resolved..

[LDIMATTI]

what did the BI say to your employer?????

[SD5326]

Nothing really in depth, but, I'm not going to put details out on a public forum for obvious reasons. If you've done some research (i.e. this website) or have knowledge on what type of questions BI's ask when they call your employer it would be easy to guess (please don't take offense to that, but there's already enough open source info on the types of questions BI's ask). It was nothing off the wall from what my boss told me. All I'll say is that they verified employment along with some other reliability type questions.

[Patrio72]

Avue added some instructions to my application today. Evidently, I have completed the first phase of the hiring process and have been instructed to "make appointments and receive several medical screenings." I also have been instructed to download and print several forms related to my health.

Do I wait for FAMS to call or do I just make an appointment to get a full physical and just take all of the paperwork with me? I am going to call Avue tomorrow for clarification but just wanted to get some additional feedback.

Thanks!
Patriot72

[manstown]

You have to wait for an email from the FAMS. Once you get that message, it will give you a number to call to set up the appointments. Good Luck.

[Patrio72]

Once I have met with my regular doctor and he has filled in the F3280 forms, do I fax them back into Avue?

[manstown]

I didn't bring anything with me. I never met with my doctor. And when I met their doctors, they took care of sending the med results. Not to say that you don't have to. But I have since gotten a call for an interview, next week, and nothing was said about my medical so I assume that I am cleared. If not they will tell me if anything is wrong. But when I left the medical, the nurse told me that all looked fine.

[Patrio72]

I met with my regular doctor this morning. He performed an EKG and filled out the F3280A and F3280B for me. However, I didn't give him the Medical Authorization Form. None of the items I answered yes to on the SF93 were treated by him. For example, I broke my arm in 1994 but was treated by an ER doctor at a hospital and not my current regular doctor. So now I am wondering if I need to drive to the hospital that treated my broken arm and give them a copy of the Medical Authozation Form and have them forward copies of my records to FAMS?

I may need to call Avue about this one....In the mean time I wait for a email/call about my FOH physical examination.

[Patrio72]

OK, I need to go back to my regular doc and have him compose a letter stating that my once broken arm is "ok". On a side note, why does Avue always ask for your name when you call? Not a big deal; I was just curious...

Patriot72

[USMC5816]

I had my PTA in early 06--If not placed into a class within 90 days you have to complete the PTA all over again...anybody in my boat? I plan on them calling again in early May....OUT

[Patrio72]

When is the next class? I heard July sometime....

[SD5326]

July is the next academy.

[USMC5816]

Thanks folks that is what I hear and also what I do not hear.-(July school date) Just wondering if there are any FAM applicants out there who have already completed one PTA-not given class date...and who are awaiting the call for a second go-round with the PTA. Understanding that the PTA is only valid for 90 days I get the feeling that I will be running them more than 1x, 2x, or 3x.

[kokopelli]

hey- I'm in the same boat. I finished everything back in September, then the pta came about, took that in mid February. Honestly, I don't think I'd drive another hour and a half to do it again after 90 days.
It would be nice, -no actually, it would be a little more professional of them to let those of us who have completed everything know something.
The last thing I had heard was a phone call asking to send another copy of my dd214- mine had been lost coming from AC. My app had made it to DC and was ready to go up to the hiring people, I was told. Since then, these forums have fed a bunch of rumors, but no official word on anything. :confused:

[psycho1000r]

crickets chirping...

[Threex]

....still hangin' :confused:

[psycho1000r]

did everyone fall off the face of the earth? SD, igneous, manstown.... whats going on????

[igneous]

Here, just nothing to post.

[manstown]

I have my interview and psych eval tomorrow morning. I'll let you guys know how it all goes when I get back. From what I hear it will take a little bit.

I'll see if there is any information on hiring. I'll let you guys know what I find out tomorrow.

[SD5326]

Still here...... just waiting for the next step. Trust me I'll be spun up again when I get the PTA Notice. Right now, I'm doing two-a-days until I get notified.
SD

[Gibbmusic]

Just to let everybody know, they are still moving the process along. I completed my application and BI/Medical statement in late March. Today I got a call from the local office to set up my panel interview in early June.

I'm not sure if they've started the BI yet, I haven't heard anything from my supervisors or administration.

I'll keep everybody advised on the process, it's good to have a forum like this to share the experience with other candidates and read their experiences as well.

Gibbmusic

[manstown]

When did you put in your application?

[Gibbmusic]

I submitted the initial application on 03/22/06 and submitted in the BI/Medical information on 03/30/06. They called me yesterday, 04/26/06, to set up the interview, however I don't report for the interview until June.

Gibbmusic

[manstown]

Where did you apply for? NY/DC?

[SD5326]

Everyone done with process up to the PTA!.............CHECK YOUR EMAIL!

I just got notified to do the PTA about five minutes ago (VIA EMAIL). Well I'm spun up again!

[Gibbmusic]

Where did you apply for? NY/DC?

Both! I'm not picky but I'd prefer NYC just because I've always been a Mets fan.

Gibbmusic

[igneous]

Everyone done with process up to the PTA!.............CHECK YOUR EMAIL!

I just got notified to do the PTA about five minutes ago (VIA EMAIL). Well I'm spun up again!
Nothing here :(

[dps747]

I got the same email.
I was hyperventilating at first, but then it was a bit of a tease. It didn't actually give a date or a number to call yet. :confused: hurry up and wait...
should be getting used to this by now.

[psycho1000r]

nothing here, actually its been a blessing in disguise, i friggin had pneumonia and nad havent been able to work out for the past 2 week!!! i gotta get back in the saddle in a big way!!!

[AZLawDawg]

hmmm, my eyesight isn't good enough to get on with the FAM's, but reading through the rest of you hopefull's posts, I really wish all of you the best of luck!
I can live vicariously through you when I'm out running radar in the middle of the desert at 4am :)

[ladyfed]

Can anyone tell me what it's like to be a female FAM. I am in a standstill in the hiring process. It's been 3 months since my interview. Respectful feedback welcomed.

[SD5326]

Ladyfed,

I spoke with a female FAM a while back she told me she loved the job. She said just as with any other job it has it's ups and downs, but, overall it was good and she was glad she decided to become one. SD

[MFapp2]

I sent my application in and got a CO on 3/11 and i received the letter on 3/15 stating to cancel my appointment with the doctors and wait to hear from the fams. it is now 5/3 and i still havent heard anything. is anyone else in the same boat as me??? Should i call avue and see whats going on or call the FAMS??? Please Help?

[99TAC]

I sent my application in and got a CO on 3/11 and i received the letter on 3/15 stating to cancel my appointment with the doctors and wait to hear from the fams. it is now 5/3 and i still havent heard anything. is anyone else in the same boat as me??? Should i call avue and see whats going on or call the FAMS??? Please Help?

3/11?...That's nothing. I applied back in September 05, qualified for the highest pay band, got the conditional offer, sent in my medical release, and haven't heard a thing. I've called Avue several times to make sure I didn't need to send anything else in. They said my app looks good and that I should just keep waiting. I've given up on hearing from them. I just wish I could get the hours of my life back that I spend writing those damn KSA/competency naratives. But life will go on...

[psycho1000r]

well i tlaked to a woman that works at the FAM medical facility, we've become friends considering the amount of times I'v called to get my results!!

anywho, she said that there was a hiring freeze the past couple of months and they just lifted it, so the ball should start rolling soon again.

then again , I've heard that song n dance...

[SD5326]

Anyone hear anything lately? Looks like their still doing interviews and such from what others are posting on other forums. Well just trying to keep it alive.

[SD5326]

.....Bueller?

[psycho1000r]

i got a call the other day!!! BUT, it was for the panel interview , WHICH I DID 5 MONTHS AGO!!! I had to explain to the FAM gentleman what steps i had already completed!!! he blamed it on avue, saying they might not have updated there system, so i promptly called avue, and of course they had no idea what i was tlaknig about... im so annoyed with this whole cluster F**K already!

[Patrio72]

You could always give them my # so they can call me for an interview....
It has been 2 months and no word....

[DOAcop38]

You could always give them my # so they can call me for an interview....
It has been 2 months and no word....

TSA is BROKE- and FAMS are not really cops ( still trying to figure out what they are to be honest!) TRY applying for BICE or Border Patrol, if you have your heart set on being "tortured" by federal Uniformed enforcement- they need people....... :D

[SD5326]

TSA is BROKE- and FAMS are not really cops ( still trying to figure out what they are to be honest!) TRY applying for BICE or Border Patrol, if you have your heart set on being "tortured" by federal Uniformed enforcement- they need people....... :D


Well............ it's obvious you're a professional LEO. :rolleyes:

[SD5326]

i got a call the other day!!! BUT, it was for the panel interview , WHICH I DID 5 MONTHS AGO!!! I had to explain to the FAM gentleman what steps i had already completed!!! he blamed it on avue, saying they might not have updated there system, so i promptly called avue, and of course they had no idea what i was tlaknig about... im so annoyed with this whole cluster F**K already!


Man, that is hell of a "glitch" psycho! Was it the same F.O. that contacted you for the second time? Yes,....yes it is as you say....... a cluster fu__. Hopefully things will get sorted out for you. I'm gonna send you a PM so check it out. -SD-

[0351]

and FAMS are not really cops ( still trying to figure out what they are to be honest!) TRY applying for BICE or Border Patrol, if you have your heart set on being "tortured" by federal Uniformed enforcement- they need people....... :D
Not sure if I'm supposed to be offended by that... yeah there's virtually no "police work," but I'm 6(c) covered and I get LEAP so my feelings aren't hurt, and yes the BP needs people.

[drepol]

and FAMS are not really cops ( still trying to figure out what they are to be honest!)
God I hate it when people determine what LEO jobs are and are not 'police', 'cops' or 'law enforcement'. Last time I checked, I have arrest authority, a badge, a gun, federal authority to enforce laws. Just because some agencies don't arrest someone everyday, or do patrol work, does not mean that they are not law enforcement. Special Agents at OIGs, FAMs, people who do protective work, and others that don't do 'traditional' LE work get the shaft all the time on these boards. Sorry for the rant, but its somewhat offensive.

[Rolla]

TSA is BROKE- and FAMS are not really cops ( still trying to figure out what they are to be honest!) TRY applying for BICE or Border Patrol, if you have your heart set on being "tortured" by federal Uniformed enforcement- they need people....... :D


WOW.... must have tried and not been hired by us..... :eek:

[Threex]

i got the "sorry but there are better candidates" letter from the fams relayed through avue today. I was finished with all phases and i was with the applicants from back in August. GOOD LUCK TO THE REST OF YA!!

[SD5326]

not really sure how to take this but i got the "sorry but there are better candidates" letter from avue today. I question this because ive completed everything including the pta, and was just waiting for the "call" from fams??? I was with the applicants from back in August. Any thoughts other than Avue sucks a fat one? :confused: :rolleyes:


Damn 3X,

I remember you when this thread first started out. I'm sorry to hear that. You've been in this it seems forever only to have an anti-climatic ending or hopefully it is one of the infamous glitches we hear of quite often.

[psycho1000r]

i got the "sorry but there are better candidates" letter from the fams relayed through avue today. I was finished with all phases and i was with the applicants from back in August. GOOD LUCK TO THE REST OF YA!!


wow, sorry to hear man!! did you do ok on the PTA or have a problem with hte med evaluation?

[kinghaas]

What is the maximum age to get hired? Iam 37 but have been a cop for 13 years. Am I too old?

[manstown]

Unless you had 6c coverage at a previous job then sorry to say, you are too old. Only in the sense that you have to be hired by your 37th birthday. there have been instances where a waiver was granted, but so many applicants in the pool, I don't know the likelyhood of that happening. Sorry to drop that news on you.

[DOAcop38]

WOW.... must have tried and not been hired by us..... :eek:

First off, looks like I hurt the feelings of some of you guys ! Secondly, I WOULDN'T WASTE MY TIME applying for a "questionable" fed job- when I said you are not really cops,I was talking to those who might "think" the job has the same emphasis on enforcement as say, a police officer/state trooper /deputy sheriff. I also meant that you don't patrol, rarely arrest, and from my experience ,I've seen the TSA regulatory(non sworn,unarmed) agents and the FBI DO MOST of the work on the "aviation security" end of the enforcement.( I've handled sex assaults on acfts,robberies, batteries / assaults,kidnaps,thefts,"wanted persons", assisted with tranport of dangerous felons with the "FEEBEES",Secret Service and "THE" U.S. MARSHALS- no intervening or assistance from a FAM ! hhhmmmm???? - so if you're there for acft security ,fine, but don't try to puff your chests about anything else !Plus ,gotta admit it- I've heard MORE of your "guys" complaining about how the job sucks,particularly agents that have transferred to the agency from a PD,state agency or even from other FED Depts- issues about pay,assignments, the whole bang- and I work in Ca. so our salaries FAR exceed what they pay most of you- why would I BOTHER to LOSE$$$ on that aspect? when I said what I said , I meant it - I don't really KNOW what you do, but its not "typical policing"- if that insults you, so be it, if it doesn't then don't worry about what I said .there are plenty of alternatives as far as having a job in law enforcement, and being a FAM is one of them. I replied only when I read the misery stories of people applying and seemingly being overlooked or not even contacted. If your house is in order you don't need to defend it. FLAME back if you want.I've said what I said........

[igneous]

First off, looks like I hurt the feelings of some of you guys ! Secondly, I WOULDN'T WASTE MY TIME applying for a "questionable" fed job- when I said you are not really cops,I was talking to those who might "think" the job has the same emphasis on enforcement as say, a police officer/state trooper /deputy sheriff. I also meant that you don't patrol, rarely arrest, and from my experience ,I've seen the TSA regulatory(non sworn,unarmed) agents and the FBI DO MOST of the work on the "aviation security" end of the enforcement.( I've handled sex assaults on acfts,robberies, batteries / assaults,kidnaps,thefts,"wanted persons", assisted with tranport of dangerous felons with the "FEEBEES",Secret Service and "THE" U.S. MARSHALS- no intervening or assistance from a FAM ! hhhmmmm???? - so if you're there for acft security ,fine, but don't try to puff your chests about anything else !Plus ,gotta admit it- I've heard MORE of your "guys" complaining about how the job sucks,particularly agents that have transferred to the agency from a PD,state agency or even from other FED Depts- issues about pay,assignments, the whole bang- and I work in Ca. so our salaries FAR exceed what they pay most of you- why would I BOTHER to LOSE$$$ on that aspect? when I said what I said , I meant it - I don't really KNOW what you do, but its not "typical policing"- if that insults you, so be it, if it doesn't then don't worry about what I said .there are plenty of alternatives as far as having a job in law enforcement, and being a FAM is one of them. I replied only when I read the misery stories of people applying and seemingly being overlooked or not even contacted. If your house is in order you don't need to defend it. FLAME back if you want.I've said what I said........
You might want to try paragraphs for your next post. Reading three lines of that gave me an extreme headache.

[SD5326]

[QUOTE=DOAcop38]First off, looks like I hurt the feelings of some of you guys ! Secondly, I WOULDN'T WASTE MY TIME applying for a "questionable" fed job- when I said you are not really cops,I was talking to those who might "think" the job has the same emphasis on enforcement as say, a police officer/state trooper /deputy sheriff. I also meant that you don't patrol, rarely arrest, and from my experience ,I've seen the TSA regulatory(non sworn,unarmed) agents and the FBI DO MOST of the work on the "aviation security" end of the enforcement.( I've handled sex assaults on acfts,robberies, batteries / assaults,kidnaps,thefts,"wanted persons", assisted with tranport of dangerous felons with the "FEEBEES",Secret Service and "THE" U.S. MARSHALS- no intervening or assistance from a FAM ! hhhmmmm???? - so if you're there for acft security ,fine, but don't try to puff your chests about anything else !Plus ,gotta admit it- I've heard MORE of your "guys" complaining about how the job sucks,particularly agents that have transferred to the agency from a PD,state agency or even from other FED Depts- issues about pay,assignments, the whole bang- and I work in Ca. so our salaries FAR exceed what they pay most of you- why would I BOTHER to LOSE$$$ on that aspect? when I said what I said , I meant it - I don't really KNOW what you do, but its not "typical policing"- if that insults you, so be it, if it doesn't then don't worry about what I said .there are plenty of alternatives as far as having a job in law enforcement, and being a FAM is one of them. I replied only when I read the misery stories of people applying and seemingly being overlooked or not even contacted. If your house is in order you don't need to defend it. FLAME back if you want.I've said what I said........


Easy there,

Thanks for your input. On to the next subject.

[kokopelli]

i got the "sorry but there are better candidates" letter from the fams relayed through avue today. I was finished with all phases and i was with the applicants from back in August. GOOD LUCK TO THE REST OF YA!!


ditto...I finished everything last September, then went for the pta on Jan 3.
I like the part where it says '...in favor of more qualified applicants...' :eek: -I have 13 years on the PD with tactical team experience, prior military and college. I scored for the highest payband as well. Oh well, God must have different plans for me. Rumor is they are hireing 20ish- something people with not as much experience, and TSA screeners in order to hire them in at the lower payband. But, good luck to whoever goes on...

[LilBit]

i started the process back in august 2005, did the pta in february 2006, got a job offer four days after the pta to start april 3 in DC, then got a call the following week that they were in a hiring freeze and job was off the table for time being. called fams about a month ago to check on status, she said still on freeze but hoping to start hiring in june. no word since then though.

[Seamarshal]

Well your right,
I applied in Feb. 2006 and yesterday I recieved a call from a FO in Florida.
I am scheduled for a panel interview next week!!!!!! Any tips for the interview?
Also which FO is still hurting with lack of FAMS? I put in for Miami and Orlando. Are they still hurting in NY and DC?

Thanks,

[psycho1000r]

Rumor is they are hireing 20ish- something people with not as much experience, and TSA screeners in order to hire them in at the lower payband. But, good luck to whoever goes on...


heaven forbid they try and allow people within the organization with background checks and current federal service to try and move up... how dare they!

[SD5326]

ditto...I finished everything last September, then went for the pta on Jan 3.
I like the part where it says '...in favor of more qualified applicants...' :eek: -I have 13 years on the PD with tactical team experience, prior military and college. I scored for the highest payband as well. Oh well, God must have different plans for me. Rumor is they are hireing 20ish- something people with not as much experience, and TSA screeners in order to hire them in at the lower payband. But, good luck to whoever goes on...


Another person from the beginning of this thread. This is truly an emotional roller coaster at its finest. Sorry to hear that Kokopelli. Good luck to you and yours.

[kokopelli]

heaven forbid they try and allow people within the organization with background checks and current federal service to try and move up... how dare they!


oh please...I'm not going to get into a debate over this, but the fams job is not an entry level le position. Someone with years of training and experience is what is needed up there- ex military SF, SWAT experience, etc.... I know I would not feel comfortable on a plane with a fam for protection that was looking in luggage 4 months earlier.
Before you get all upset with me over it, check out the delphi forums, where the current fams post, and they'll tell you the same thing. They laugh at the idea of screeners wanting to go to fams.

[4everYoung]

So is it way to late to begin the app process and if not then where do I go to do so. I have a USA Jobs account but cannot find anything on openings there.

[0351]

Rumor is they are hireing 20ish- something people with not as much experience, and TSA screeners in order to hire them in at the lower payband. But, good luck to whoever goes on...
Kokopelli, I am genuinely sorry to hear the bad news, but at the same time it may be for the better.
Are you SWAT because you like the work, or because it sounds cool? I assume the former to be true, in which case, this is not that. It's really not as high speed as some people looking to do counter-terrorism type stuff tend to think, or as easy as some people who want a paycheck for sitting on their butts all day think.
Respectfully, what the service gets with highly experienced SWAT or SF guys is people who are more likely to leave in a year or two that want more pay.

As for the 20 somethings (including myself) and former TSA employees, I haven't met anyone yet in those categories that didn't have something to make them stand out.
Essentially, if anything bad does happen with a FAM involved, I don't believe it'll be because of who they're hiring.

I can definitely understand how the "more qualified applicants" thing can be a slap in the face, I don't know what they should put, if anything. once again, sorry to hear the bad news.

As for those still in the process, good luck.

[Trace]

4everyoung, the annoucement has left usajobs, but it is still showing up on avue. Couldn't hurt to check it out. Good luck.

[USMC5816]

Hey folks I re-certified my junk with avue like most of you folks did or are going to have to do. Question: Do we need to send all the hardcopies back in?-In order for it to be finalized. Hey SD5326, I can't seem to ever read a post with you not being on one of them :) Do you you know the good word-In ref. to the new avue email? Just want to make sure I'm not sending in new 87's and the like if not needed-thanks for any info bro

[apd98]

Got re-cert letter. After sending it back got e-mail from avue to call for medical. This is after not hearing anything for many months. Anyone else processing out of the Atlanta office.

[SD5326]

Hey folks I re-certified my junk with avue like most of you folks did or are going to have to do. Question: Do we need to send all the hardcopies back in?-In order for it to be finalized. Hey SD5326, I can't seem to ever read a post with you not being on one of them :) Do you you know the good word-In ref. to the new avue email? Just want to make sure I'm not sending in new 87's and the like if not needed-thanks for any info bro

Yeah, they just want you to re-send your app so they know you're still interested. You don't have to do anything else. SD

[LilBit]

got an offer ... again!! got a call on friday from fams medical programs branch wanting me to fax back a form to recertify my psych eval (since it had been 9 months since i did it). faxed form back this morning and got the call this afternoon. start date is june 26 in DC.

[Gibbmusic]

got an offer ... again!! got a call on friday from fams medical programs branch wanting me to fax back a form to recertify my psych eval (since it had been 9 months since i did it). faxed form back this morning and got the call this afternoon. start date is june 26 in DC.

Congrats LilBit, good luck to ya!

Gibbmusic

[SD5326]

got an offer ... again!! got a call on friday from fams medical programs branch wanting me to fax back a form to recertify my psych eval (since it had been 9 months since i did it). faxed form back this morning and got the call this afternoon. start date is june 26 in DC.


It was an emotional roller coaster for you, even more by getting an offer and a freeze call and then an offer again.

[psycho1000r]

got an offer ... again!! got a call on friday from fams medical programs branch wanting me to fax back a form to recertify my psych eval (since it had been 9 months since i did it). faxed form back this morning and got the call this afternoon. start date is june 26 in DC.

congrats man!!!! good luck to ya!

[LilBit]

i think you mean congrats "woman!!" :)
i'm just keeping my fingers crossed there's no freeze again.

[apd98]

lilbit,

Ny or Dc?

[apd98]

Just got a e-mail from avue. It stated that after I re-cert my application I do not need to re-send forms. That would have been nice to know when I got the re-cert letter. I have my medical test Thursday. Anyone processing out of the Atlanta FO? I have taken my written psych but not the psych interview. They said we needed to have medical first. Should I go ahead and try and schedule the psych again? Were is everone else in the process?

[SD5326]

Just got a e-mail from avue. It stated that after I re-cert my application I do not need to re-send forms. That would have been nice to know when I got the re-cert letter. I have my medical test Thursday. Anyone processing out of the Atlanta FO? I have taken my written psych but not the psych interview. They said we needed to have medical first. Should I go ahead and try and schedule the psych again? Were is everone else in the process?

I would try to sched the psych exam if you had a POC for that. I'm done with everything except the PTA.

[psycho1000r]

I'm done with everything except the PTA.


ditto, i keep gettting repeat emails though, about recerifying and taking med exam and panel interviews, but i already did all that

[SD5326]

ditto, i keep gettting repeat emails though, about recerifying and taking med exam and panel interviews, but i already did all that


Yeah,

I got another one (email) today that said to disregard all of the emails that followed the recert. At least the wheels are still turning.

[Patrio72]

I called Avue yesterday and inquired about the re-certs. I was informed that anyone with an application that is older than 119 days, has to re-certify their application.

[igneous]

Hope some of you guys are watching 20/20 tonight,
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/united_states_a.html
Should be interesting

[manstown]

Just got called yesterday to meet with the psychologist.

[TPRX899]

I am curious what federal job did you leave after 10 years to become a federal air marshal?

As a Air Marshal, no sir, I have not arrested anyone by gunpoint. As a federal officer, with over 10 years of experience, yes I have, several. I've also been in four shoot outs and shot once. I've also made drug seizures in the thousands of pounds, arrested drunks, pedophiles, rapist, murderers, smugglers etc, etc. I don't know what makes you think that your typical air marshal has never done anything, but ride in a plane. You need to seriously check your facts officer, or, get some better snitches. The ones you have, have been steering you wrong.

[apd98]

Just got called yesterday to meet with the psychologist.


How long after medical exam did you get the call for psch interview? I had my medical yesterday. This waiting game sucks!!!!!! Been in the process since 6/2005. Do you think it is because I chose all duty locations and not just DC/NY?

[manstown]

Choosing the other locations came up in my interview. It may slow you down. That's what I was told. It was about a month from the medical to the interview which included the psych test. It will be just over a month from interview/psych to psych interview.

[SD5326]

Just got called yesterday to meet with the psychologist.


It's about time huh? You've been waiting forever.

[manstown]

It has been a while. But I have a few buddies that were picked up already. So I knew some of what was going on. There is a slow down for now guys. But I do think that in the next month or so things will pick up. At least that is the impression I got at the interview.

[SD5326]

I'm just wondering if they're getting ready for one big mass PTA outing. From reading some current posts it seems as if they are ramping up for a big hiring session. With people being called for interviews, med screenings, and such. I still haven't heard a word for the PTA yet though......... anyone got any news?

[SD5326]

It has been a while. But I have a few buddies that were picked up already. So I knew some of what was going on. There is a slow down for now guys. But I do think that in the next month or so things will pick up. At least that is the impression I got at the interview.

Yeah same here. I know a few guys that got picked up as well as some guys that have been in the game after 9-11. I'm sure things are going to fire up soon as far as hiring is concerned.

[LilBit]

the FAMS HR person who gave me my offer told me that again they're going to hire as many as they can before the end of the fiscal year. so i'd bet you can expect the rash of hiring that happened in the fall of last year.

my timeline:
8-31-05: panel/written psych
9-14 medical
10-5 psychologist
2-13-06 PTA
2-17 offer
2-22 hiring freeze
5-12 request to recert psych
5-15 offer

[drepol]

so i'd bet you can expect the rash of hiring that happened in the fall of last year.

While I'd agree that there was a major hiring push this past fall (when I got picked up), given the number of applicants (multiple tens of thousands) and the number picked up (MUCH LESS THAN THAT), I wouldn't call any hiring the FAMS has done, or will do in the near future a "rash of hiring"

[Gibbmusic]

Based on some recent information that I have received from current Air Marshals both online and in person, I am very seriously considering dropping from the process. I continually keep hearing very similar complaints about the current leadership in the FAMs and even more disturbing is the more recent development of common health issues among long-time FAMs. I am NOT trying to discourage anybody from applying, I just think I might want to put my application process off at least until we see some management changes.

My question is this...I'm still early in the application process, my oral board is in June. At what point in the process can I drop without seriously hurting my future chances of being hired? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like it if I went all the way through the process and then said, "Thanks, but no thanks." Does anybody know if they blackmark you if you drop from consideration early in the process?

Thanks for any input,
Gibbmusic

[manstown]

Based on some recent information that I have received from current Air Marshals both online and in person, I am very seriously considering dropping from the process. I continually keep hearing very similar complaints about the current leadership in the FAMs and even more disturbing is the more recent development of common health issues among long-time FAMs. I am NOT trying to discourage anybody from applying, I just think I might want to put my application process off at least until we see some management changes.

My question is this...I'm still early in the application process, my oral board is in June. At what point in the process can I drop without seriously hurting my future chances of being hired? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like it if I went all the way through the process and then said, "Thanks, but no thanks." Does anybody know if they blackmark you if you drop from consideration early in the process?

Thanks for any input,
Gibbmusic

Don't mean to rain on your parade. But I don't think if you drop out they will keep your file close by. Just follow through with the process and see what answers you can get in the mean time. If you still have the interview to go in june, it may be a while before you get picked up.

[SD5326]

Just got the call for the PTA today. Next Tuesday was the earliest date to take it. I'm assuming we'll see some other people post that they got scheduled as well. I'm stoked!! SD

[psycho1000r]

Just got the call for the PTA today. Next Tuesday was the earliest date o take it. I'm assuming we'll seesome other people post that they got scheduled as well. I'm stoked!! SD


congrats man!! glad to hear someones moving along!!

[SD5326]

Thanks man hopefully you'll be hearing something soon.

[LilBit]

While I'd agree that there was a major hiring push this past fall (when I got picked up), given the number of applicants (multiple tens of thousands) and the number picked up (MUCH LESS THAN THAT), I wouldn't call any hiring the FAMS has done, or will do in the near future a "rash of hiring"
perhaps i used too visual a language in my previous quote. basically my point was just that HR said they'll be trying to get in as many as they can before end of fiscal year.

[Patrio72]

Is the end of the FAMs fiscal year June 30?

[drepol]

Is the end of the FAMs fiscal year June 30?
no. The entire federal government has the change of the FY at the end of September.

[mjcek]

Does anyone know if being a diabetic is an automatic disqualifier for the FAMS???

[SD5326]

I did some research for you on the diabetes issue. To answer your question, no, diabetes is not an automatic disqualifier, however, you do have to have an extensive screening done by your personal physician and I'm almost certain you'll have to have some additional screenings done by the Doctor FAMS has you go see when they authorize you to to the medical portion of the assessment. I hope this helps and just so you know, that's all I know about the subject.

[mjcek]

I did some research for you on the diabetes issue. To answer your question, no, diabetes is not an automatic disqualifier, however, you do have to have an extensive screening done by your personal physician and I'm almost certain you'll have to have some additional screenings done by the Doctor FAMS has you go see when they authorize you to to the medical portion of the assessment. I hope this helps and just so you know, that's all I know about the subject.

ok, thanks for the info!

[SD5326]

Did anyone here anything this week. Igs, Psycho?........any news. Just trying to keep in touch.

[psycho1000r]

Did anyone here anything this week. Igs, Psycho?........any news. Just trying to keep in touch.


nodda man...

[igneous]

Did anyone here anything this week. Igs, Psycho?........any news. Just trying to keep in touch.
I haven't heard a damn thing

[apd98]

I haven't heard a damn thing
Had my medical test last monday.Got call late friday to schedule psyco test for next tue. One more step out of the way and then back to waiting.

[SD5326]

Took the PTA today. Excellent on everything. I wish I had more info to tell people. It was very short and sweet today.

[Patrio72]

I got called for my panel interview today. I interview June 21st and was informed that the process should last most of the day.

Patriot72

[igneous]

Got a call to take the pta next week. First time Ive heard something in a while.

[SD5326]

Good Luck bro!

[bronxitalian35]

If you get hired and worked for FAM for 3 years could you lateral to another federal agency like the U.S. Marshal Service or U.S. Customs or how long would you have to be on the FAM to transfer to a different duty location like Las Vegas?
I've lived in vegas for about 5yrs.(from NY) and presently I'm a checkpoint sup w/ TSA. They reserved X amnt of spots for us if we wanted to apply as TSO's we'd get preference. A few ppl I work with are going for it but with a wife and 2 kids, (that I kinda like),It's not for me.But TSA is an excepted service now for most federal agencies out there.From what I understand once your in a year, your good to go on the transfers.

[igneous]

I talked to the guy at the FO about my pta on monday, he told me theres supposed to be a class in July and August.

[intheair]

I was done with everything in the process back in February. I was called for a pta in the AM and took it that day got ecellent on everything except the run I got the next best good or fair whatever it is I dont remember. Anyway I was told I ould hear something very soon posibly that night. I never heard anything from them again not even since. The morning I was driving to take the pta I was called by HQ to fax my transcripts in which I did. I am kind of scratching my head wondering what happened I thought I would have been training in march or april but I am not. I called avue and asked if I should recertify my app and I did but never got any email notifications like others are saying they have gotten. Any advice?

[vicmackey]

I decided to pull my application from FAMS. I DON"T wanna work in DC or New York....good luck to everyone else!

[drepol]

I decided to pull my application from FAMS. I DON"T wanna work in DC or New York....good luck to everyone else!
then you probably won't be picked up this time around, considering that NY and DC are the only offices that are hiring right now

[vicmackey]

then you probably won't be picked up this time around, considering that NY and DC are the only offices that are hiring right now


Exactly why I pulled myself out of the process. Been there...don't like it.

[igneous]

Took my pta today, got between good and excellent on everything, so now I wait.

[apd98]

Have psych interview tomorrow any tips?

[igneous]

Don't worry about it, its really simple.

[manstown]

Have psych interview tomorrow any tips?

Don't act crazy! Had mine last week. Itis very easy. Just relax and be yourself.

[PPD668]

Is anyone on the west coast getting interviews? I applied back in 05, and I just reactivated my app. Both times I received the conditional offer of employment but that’s it. I check the boards daily and going over the post it looks like all of you are back east. On my app I put down Seattle, Vegas, D.C., and New York for my duty station. Does anyone know of someone on the west coast getting interview, pt, or medical? Does anyone have a number I could call to find out about my app?

[Patrio72]

Do they hold your feet during the situps?

[manstown]

Is anyone on the west coast getting interviews? I applied back in 05, and I just reactivated my app. Both times I received the conditional offer of employment but that’s it. I check the boards daily and going over the post it looks like all of you are back east. On my app I put down Seattle, Vegas, D.C., and New York for my duty station. Does anyone know of someone on the west coast getting interview, pt, or medical? Does anyone have a number I could call to find out about my app?

At my interview, I was told that because I put down other areas with DC and NY, is a reason why it took so long for me to get called. Don't know how true that holds, but it was coming from the FAMS. And I'm on the East Coast.

[igneous]

Do they hold your feet during the situps?
Yes they do

[SD5326]

Is anyone on the west coast getting interviews? I applied back in 05, and I just reactivated my app. Both times I received the conditional offer of employment but that’s it. I check the boards daily and going over the post it looks like all of you are back east. On my app I put down Seattle, Vegas, D.C., and New York for my duty station. Does anyone know of someone on the west coast getting interview, pt, or medical? Does anyone have a number I could call to find out about my app?


Yes, Left Coasters are getting interviews. I know a few. I have one word to explain why probably haven't been called for an interview yet, "Avue". I'm sure others will vouge for that as well.

[igneous]

Yes, Left Coasters are getting interviews. I know a few. I have one word to explain why probably haven't been called for an interview yet, "Avue". I'm sure others will vouge for that as well.
I just read about your recert call on 911 job forums, sounds like good news! Hopefully I'll hear something in a week or two since my pta was just yesterday. Can't wait.

[SD5326]

Yeah, no doubt. I faxed the recert earlier this morning. I was so excited I forgot to come over here and post that info. Just so everyone understands it is a psych eval recert questionaire no new appointments or anything. -SD-

[apd98]

Passed psych oral yesterday and have pta tomorrow. Looks like thing are about to happen around here!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[SD5326]

Just got the call! I start June 25th in D.C.! Keep your comms on, She said there's more calls coming!

[igneous]

Just got the call! I start June 25th in D.C.! Keep your comms on, She said there's more calls coming!
Holy Crap! Congrats man! I just got a call this morning, unfortunately it was DC asking me to fax in my transcripts, so as soon as I do that it will go to the review board. I can't wait to hear similar news!!

[apd98]

congrats!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting on the call

[thermop6]

So I don't hear from Avue for 5 months, no calls, no emails - so I figure I'm out. Today I get a letter and fingerprint cards to fill out. This doesn't seem to be part of the process that I have heard others describing here... :confused:

[Dlbomber1]

So I don't hear from Avue for 5 months, no calls, no emails - so I figure I'm out. Today I get a letter and fingerprint cards to fill out. This doesn't seem to be part of the process that I have heard others describing here... :confused:


Ya I filed in Oct '05 and got firstclass Mail asking me to do finger prints also today.......only thing is I also got offered a management position making way more money then I have been in awhile. So im doing the cards and sending them back but its not my highest priority anymore. I figure if they want to take all day and all year then let them. I have learned patience with them the hard way like some of us here. I hadnt heard about finger print cards either but maybe someone one day will shed some light on it. Maybe??? But overall someone said earlier last year "Act like you never applied and one day they will plop in ur lap wanting you around yesterday." :)

[Patrio72]

I also received fingerprint cards in the mail today. I interview June 21 and have been training for the PTA. Congrats to all of you that got the call.

Patriot72

[UPNYPO]

I got the COE but that was it. Never heard anything since.

[apd98]

There is no method to the madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some people I work with applied 8/05 got COE and took medical and have not heard anything since.

[NOLAPIG]

I also received fingerprint cards in the mail today. I interview June 21 and have been training for the PTA. Congrats to all of you that got the call.

Patriot72


I too received the fingerprint cards today. This is the first response i have had from avue since the c.o. There is ZERO method to their madness, im utterly convinced.

[intheair]

Can yone help me?
I applied a year ago in June. I was fnished with all phases in september. Then the pta test came out and I got excellents and good. The test was in february. I was told then they would fax everything to headquarters and "things looked really good to get the call". I was contacted by hedquarters that same day to fax my transcripts and since then have heard nothing its like the agency disappeared or lost my file. Is there anyone I can call or a department that I can call for my status because avue is not helping me.

[SD5326]

intheair PM inbound

[SD5326]

So I don't hear from Avue for 5 months, no calls, no emails - so I figure I'm out. Today I get a letter and fingerprint cards to fill out. This doesn't seem to be part of the process that I have heard others describing here... :confused:


FYI - My fingerprint cards were handed to me right after the Panel Interview and I was asked asked to mail (certified) them in after I got them done. There really is no structured way they are doing it. Sometimes I think they just close their eyes and point a finger at the process list and open their eyes and say.....ok looks like we'll be mailing out finger print cards to everyone today. I really don't know. SD

[thermop6]

Does anyone else think it's hilarious that the FAMS make us wait 5-6 months between hiring steps without a word, but they require us to send the fingerprint cards via certified and preferably overnight mail? I saw that my cards got there this morning and I would bet that I won't hear from them again for another 3 months.. What lemmings we are!! Oh well, we'll see what happens!

[igneous]

I got the RIGHT fingerprint cards to me today, and just had them done and mailed them back out. The first set they gave me after my interview were the red ones, which were wrong apparently. So now i am just waiting for my transcript to show up so I can fax it and FINALLY be done. I think. I've been "done" about 3 times now, and something else keeps coming up...

[apd98]

Anybody hear of any calls today? Heard of one yesterday. Its getting close to the June 26 start date. Maybe we will all get picked up for the Aug class.I love waiting its fun.

[psycho1000r]

congrats SD!!

i got mail stating that i had to get my eyes rechecked for whatever reason. i wear contacts and i guess they need my uncorrected viosion... who cares what my uncorrected vision is as long as i see 2-/20 with my contacts, so annoying, now i have to pay to get my eyes checked AGAIN!!! and i also recieved my finger print cards...

[psycho1000r]

ps, were your trying to get in to DC sd? or were you shooting for NY?

[igneous]

congrats SD!!

i got mail stating that i had to get my eyes rechecked for whatever reason. i wear contacts and i guess they need my uncorrected viosion... who cares what my uncorrected vision is as long as i see 2-/20 with my contacts, so annoying, now i have to pay to get my eyes checked AGAIN!!! and i also recieved my finger print cards...
You didn't get finger print cards at your interview?

[SD5326]

I had all my eggs in one basket with D.C. I didn't even put NY down on the preference list.

[psycho1000r]

You didn't get finger print cards at your interview?

nope, i did hte panel inerview like 5 months ago.i got the panel, written psych, and drug test that day. no finger print card till today

[apd98]

Did anybody else get e-mail today from Avue telling them about new step in hiring process? HELLO AVUE I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PTA

[dps747]

"Did anybody else get e-mail today from Avue telling them about new step in hiring process? HELLO AVUE I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PTA"

ditto. how long ago was your pta?
mine was about a week 1/2 ago.

[apd98]

Took PTA last Thursday. Maybe we will hear something today.

[SD5326]

Took PTA last Thursday. Maybe we will hear something today.


I hope you guys do! That would be awesome!

[MarcDominic]

So, I too, applied a while ago, didn't hear a word from them, then got my fingerprint cards in the mail the other day. I also got a call from an agent on Friday afternoon saying they were holding panel interviews at the Philly field office (Mays Landing, NJ) on Tuesday June 20. He said to check my email for directions, which I received.

So do you think this means I'm set up for the interview? I mean, I get a call right before the weekend and the interviews are on Tuesday, that doesn't give me much time to set the interview up. Anyone else going down there on Tuesday?

[SD5326]

So do you think this means I'm set up for the interview? I mean, I get a call right before the weekend and the interviews are on Tuesday, that doesn't give me much time to set the interview up. Anyone else going down there on Tuesday?

If he said interviews are on Tuesday and sent you directions to the F.O. I would consider that an invitation for an interview.

If you want to get the ball rolling with the FAMS process you should go............ short notice or not. Good luck!

[NOLAPIG]

Is it just me..or is it mostly applicants who live near field offices who have been getting calls to process further. Just a thought, any input?

[Gibbmusic]

Is it just me..or is it mostly applicants who live near field offices who have been getting calls to process further. Just a thought, any input?

I'm not sure that proximity to the field office has anything to do with it. I had my interview at the Charlotte office last week and I was told that there were people from as far away as Charleston, SC.

Gibbmusic

[drepol]

I'm not sure that proximity to the field office has anything to do with it. I had my interview at the Charlotte office last week and I was told that there were people from as far away as Charleston, SC.

Gibbmusic
I interviewed out of the midwest last fall when I got hired for DC

[MarcDominic]

If he said interviews are on Tuesday and sent you directions to the F.O. I would consider that an invitation for an interview.

If you want to get the ball rolling with the FAMS process you should go............ short notice or not. Good luck!

An agent just called me now, it's set up. He said it could be a long day or a short day, depending on how well I do on the panel interview. Can anyone PM me with some tips for the panel interview, if allowed?

[apd98]

It was a general interview no big deal.

[Patrio72]

Without violating OPSec, I was wondering to what to expect as well. I was informed that it would be a long day. So my question is, if you don't pass the interview, do they send you packing or let you stay and participate in the Psych test?

Patriot72

[Trace]

Hey guys I need a little help. I received an email from avue asking that I set up my medical. It lists and provides links to all of the required documentation except for the Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form F3280B. I have called avue and haven't heard back. Any chance you guys know where I can find this?

update: I just got a response from FAMS. Evidently the process has changed and F3280B does not have to be completed by personal physicians. F3280A still needs to be completed by your MD.

[thermop6]

Hey guys I need a little help. I received an email from avue asking that I set up my medical. It lists and provides links to all of the required documentation except for the Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form F3280B. I have called avue and haven't heard back. Any chance you guys know where I can find this?

PM me your email address - I will email it to you..

[apd98]

Hey guys I need a little help. I received an email from avue asking that I set up my medical. It lists and provides links to all of the required documentation except for the Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form F3280B. I have called avue and haven't heard back. Any chance you guys know where I can find this?

After scheduling medical fams medical will send the doc office a packet of forms. I took the ones I downloaded but the doctors office already had them.

[apd98]

Anyone else done with everything and waiting on "The Call"?

[MarcDominic]

Without violating OPSec, I was wondering to what to expect as well. I was informed that it would be a long day. So my question is, if you don't pass the interview, do they send you packing or let you stay and participate in the Psych test?

Patriot72

The guy told me it could be a long day or short day, depending on how well you do on the interview. So I'm guessing they send ya packing if you don't do well on the interview. Where's your interview at?

I'm just hoping if I pass the panel interview, that I don't have to take the pta tomorrow. I'm a little injured.

[Threex]

Just a quick observation and question, is anyone married that actually received the call to be hired within the last year? I noticed everyone i know has been single.

[bigolin]

I applied on 5/24 and just got my fingerprint cards in the mail on the 17th. Sent them back out via overnight mail and am very excited. I have no idea where the closest field office is. There isn't a list of locations with field offices anywhere is there? It just seems to me that a list of locations would be pretty counter-productive. Anyway, for anyone who knows a lot about field offices a pm or response would be great. Thanks!

[VACOP1]

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Just a quick observation and question, is anyone married that actually received the call to be hired within the last year? I noticed everyone i know has been single

It funny you should ask, alot of questions they asked me were about my wife supporting me, wilingness to move. etc. I can't say officially if me being married is why I got turned down. But hey 14 years in the military, infantry and MP, plus correction officers, and now Federal Police maybe it was my qualification.

[MarcDominic]

I applied on 5/24 and just got my fingerprint cards in the mail on the 17th. Sent them back out via overnight mail and am very excited. I have no idea where the closest field office is. There isn't a list of locations with field offices anywhere is there? It just seems to me that a list of locations would be pretty counter-productive. Anyway, for anyone who knows a lot about field offices a pm or response would be great. Thanks!

Go back to Avue. I think there's a section where you select your field office preferences from a list. You may not have seen it b/c filling this out is optional on the electronic application.

[Patrio72]

The guy told me it could be a long day or short day, depending on how well you do on the interview. So I'm guessing they send ya packing if you don't do well on the interview. Where's your interview at?

I'm just hoping if I pass the panel interview, that I don't have to take the pta tomorrow. I'm a little injured.

I interview in Detroit on 6/21. I have been preparing for the interview by formulating answers to commonly asked interview questions.

Patriot72

[SD5326]

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Just a quick observation and question, is anyone married that actually received the call to be hired within the last year? I noticed everyone i know has been single

It funny you should ask, alot of questions they asked me were about my wife supporting me, wilingness to move. etc. I can't say officially if me being married is why I got turned down. But hey 14 years in the military, infantry and MP, plus correction officers, and now Federal Police maybe it was my qualification.


BUT HEY!.....I'm married and interviewed on the West Coast and am going to D.C. I guess that rumor is null and void. Stop speculating and move on VACOP. I'm not getting into my qualifications. Good luck to everyone and don't give up because of what you may think may keep you from getting the call. Just keep doing the steps in the process that they make you do and everything will be o.k. Qualifications are not the end all of whether or not you'll get hired. If you recall, last fall they hired guys that have absolutely NO L.E. experience whatsoever. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other.

[datfas]

It's nice to learn all the information I have from you guys & gals. I just received fingerprint cards in the mail from Avue after getting the same cards after the interview. Go figure!! I would rather go to DC than NY but I will have to wait until I get the offer first. We'll see!

[usmc1775]

All;

Thanks for the 37 pages of info. I read for at least two hours. I applied back in Feb and have completed the Medical, Fingerprints, and Interview. I am still lacking the Psych and Physical assessment.

In regard to the interview, I am married, and have two children, and they did not even ask about them. I am presently called back to Active Duty in the Marines for my second time in the past three years. I thought the interview was straight forward, and they did not ask anything that I have not been asked in countless other interviews.

[bigolin]

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!

I have completed my app, and BI as stated earlier, and on my BI info, it asked me about my credit. Well, I answered truthfully, that to my knowledge there was nothing wrong with my credit. Well, I just checked my credit using the free "once a year" credit thing, and it shows that fams has checked my credit as of 2 days ago. Which is great...the process is moving. I'm stoked. The only problem is, it appears that there were things that I am now disputing on there. The problem is, the fams saw the stuff that was on there, before I could dispute it. I guess I should have checked it earlier. God this sucks. I hope this doesn't ruin my chances. I honestly wasn't trying to hide anything. I mean, for example, 2 of the things are student loans, which I have applied for a deferment with due to financial hardship, and was accepted. Yet, there they are on my credit report as being like 90 days past due. Such BS. I really hope this doesn't ruin my chances. I need some words of wisdom and some encouragement. Any suggestions would also be greatly appreciated.

[intheair]

So I did the recert like I was suppose to and called AVUE to recheck everything make sure it was all set and they said it was good; however, I just got the email saying sorry but we are no longer reviewing your app. Mind you have have been done with everything including pta since feb and applied back in june last year. I was just talking to a FAM at the field office and he was just saying how I should be good to go all set. This must be a recert mix up or something because it doesnt make to much sense. Has this happened tonyone out there.

[igneous]

So I did the recert like I was suppose to and called AVUE to recheck everything make sure it was all set and they said it was good; however, I just got the email saying sorry but we are no longer reviewing your app. Mind you have have been done with everything including pta since feb and applied back in june last year. I was just talking to a FAM at the field office and he was just saying how I should be good to go all set. This must be a recert mix up or something because it doesnt make to much sense. Has this happened tonyone out there.
I'm willing to bet its a mix up that is Avue's fault. I'd rely on the FAMS word over avue. I'm finally all done with the process, I was waiting on getting transcripts, and faxed those yesterday. Just waiting on a call now :D

[MarcDominic]

Did my panel interview yesterday, went well, passed it, then moved on to the psych eval. The whole day lasted 8 hours. Still have to do the medical and pta if I make it that far. I'm gonna take your guys's advice and move on like this day never happened. ;) However, the supervisor told us the agency is lookin to burn their budget money before the fiscal year is over (oct 1st) and push alotta people through the process and hire them.

15 people interviewed, 3 got sent home after the interview.

[usmc1775]

I survived the interview, and got the call to schedule the Psych.....
Whew, I thought I blew it....and so the quest continues...

[Patrio72]

Ditto. I got through the panel, psych and drug tests on Wednesday. Now back to waiting.

Patriot72

[apd98]

Anyone hear anything?

[igneous]

Anyone hear anything?
Still anxiously awaiting a phone call

[thermop6]

Does anyone have any insight as to when they start the initial BIs? I have been in with avue since Feb, but just got the email to schedule my interview yesterday. Did they start the BI back then or after my interview? Also, is the pta held the same day as the interview? Thanks in advance..

[igneous]

Does anyone have any insight as to when they start the initial BIs? I have been in with avue since Feb, but just got the email to schedule my interview yesterday. Did they start the BI back then or after my interview? Also, is the pta held the same day as the interview? Thanks in advance..
I think they do the BI a little randomly. The pta is a different day, they will call you when they want to schedule the pta.

[apd98]

Check your credit reports. All three will be run by Universal Credit Services. I called equifax and they said it was run by a company called fams. It was done before my panel interview.

[thermop6]

I heard a rumor somewhere that uncorrected vision must be 20/100 to pass the medical. Can anyone confirm or shoot this down? I can't find it on any job announcement and of course avue has no idea.. If it's true, I may have to schedule my LASIK appt.. Thanks.

[psycho1000r]

I heard a rumor somewhere that uncorrected vision must be 20/100 to pass the medical. Can anyone confirm or shoot this down? I can't find it on any job announcement and of course avue has no idea.. If it's true, I may have to schedule my LASIK appt.. Thanks.

roger that!! i just got something in the mail saying i had to retake my eye test and there standards are 20/20 corrected , 20/100 uncorrected, im screwed, im 20/15 corrected, BUT 20/200 uncorrected!!!! >:(

[igneous]

roger that!! i just got something in the mail saying i had to retake my eye test and there standards are 20/20 corrected , 20/100 uncorrected, im screwed, im 20/15 corrected, BUT 20/200 uncorrected!!!! >:(
Damn, it never ends huh? I'm just sitting here waiting for a phone call. I'm gonna go crazy if I get told I have something else that I need to get done.

[kmontalto]

Damn, it never ends huh? I'm just sitting here waiting for a phone call. I'm gonna go crazy if I get told I have something else that I need to get done.

does it say if laser correction is acceptable or not?

[igneous]

does it say if laser correction is acceptable or not?
I'm pretty sure that it is, but I'm not really on top of the eye stuff. Luckily my vision is fine.

[apd98]

I remember reading in previous thread that a guy went for lasik and then passed the eye test.

[Gibbmusic]

I got a question for BigSexy or somebody in the know...how does the FAMs compensate for travel to and from the airports? For example, do FAMs get g-rides or mileage reinbursement? How about train/taxi/bus fares if in the big cities?

Just wondering because if I do get hired, I plan on living at least 30 minutes out from the airports in either DC or NY...just trying to figure out how much that's gonna cost me.

Thanks,
Gibbmusic

[manstown]

They don't get take homes or do they get reimbursed. Just like any other job to and from work. It's up to the employee to get there.

[igneous]

I got a question for BigSexy or somebody in the know...how does the FAMs compensate for travel to and from the airports? For example, do FAMs get g-rides or mileage reinbursement? How about train/taxi/bus fares if in the big cities?

Just wondering because if I do get hired, I plan on living at least 30 minutes out from the airports in either DC or NY...just trying to figure out how much that's gonna cost me.

Thanks,
Gibbmusic
I know for sure that they do not get cars. There is some type of mileage reimbursement. This is what a FAM on another board said:
"And your mileage is paid on all overnighst to/fom the airport. So an overnight is worth about $96 plus mileage...all tax free!!! Plus, in some cases, mileage to/from the airport for regualr days are paid, depending where you live and distance to the airport compared to distance to the office, etc..."

[usmc1775]

I'm just a schmoe, but have significant experience in federal contracting. The JFTR (Joint Federal Travel Regulations) is the reg book that governs all federal travel. It specifies the mileage and the per-diem rate, and when you do and don't rate it.

Mileage from your home to place of duty on a daily commute is not chargeable to the government.

If you return to your home that evening, the same home that you left that morning, it's all on you financially.

If you land, and had to overnight, that would rate peridem in the form of Govt Lodging for that areas rate, and would also rate Meals and Incidentals monies. (hense the having to show ID at checkin)

I have no idea as to how claims are filed at FAMS, but am certian they are bound to the provisions of the JFTR.

[drepol]

I'm just a schmoe, but have significant experience in federal contracting. The JFTR (Joint Federal Travel Regulations) is the reg book that governs all federal travel. It specifies the mileage and the per-diem rate, and when you do and don't rate it.

Mileage from your home to place of duty on a daily commute is not chargeable to the government.

If you return to your home that evening, the same home that you left that morning, it's all on you financially.

If you land, and had to overnight, that would rate peridem in the form of Govt Lodging for that areas rate, and would also rate Meals and Incidentals monies. (hense the having to show ID at checkin)

I have no idea as to how claims are filed at FAMS, but am certian they are bound to the provisions of the JFTR.

Yeah, the travel regs apply to us, we use them a lot. I get mileage, and other related expenses reimbursed. Travel vouchers represent the brunt of my paperwork

[Patrio72]

Does Comprehensive Health Services call applicants to schedule the medical?

Patriot72

[ditta23]

does anyone know what the medical exam consists of and what types of things would be disqualifiers?

thanks :)

[igneous]

does anyone know what the medical exam consists of and what types of things would be disqualifiers?

thanks :)
Look up the faa class 2 physical exam, its pretty similar to that. I think..

[SD5326]

To All,

Activity should start picking up in the near future, as far as hiring is concerned. Keep your comms(cell) on at all times in the coming months. It is MY OWN assumption that if you have completed everything (including the PTA). Chances are very good that you will be getting a call in the NEAR future (NEAR FUTURE= 1 WEEK-1.5 MONTH). That is all the info I have. Good luck to everyone and don't get discouraged...... it's worth it!

SD

[apd98]

Just got recertification of psychological clearence status in an email. Had to sign and fax it back.

[igneous]

Just got recertification of psychological clearence status in an email. Had to sign and fax it back.
Me too. I found it interesting that they didn't BCC the other email addresses that it was sent to though. I have about 20 other applicants emails on there.

[apd98]

Anybody hear anything?

[NOLAPIG]

Called today for the panel being held next week. First correspondence since i applied in late 05.

[datfas]

Well after reading some old posts, I went back and checked my app with Avue and found out I passed Phase I but had some medical issues that needed to be addressed. I would suggest that if anyone is still waiting to go back in to Avue and check the background and see if it says anything. i have already went to the interview on June 19. Once I get the medical stuff cleared I will hopefully get the final stages (Psych Interview, Medical & PAT) scheduled. I interviewed out of the Chicago FO.

[NOLAPIG]

Sucks though all the new hires are going to NY and DC :mad:

[datfas]

Don't want to start a rumor, but read a while back a post in Dec that said all the DC jobs were filled and they are working on NY. Like anything I take what I read here with a grain of salt. I too applied back in Aug 05 didn't hear anything until tha call in May to schedule an interview. Plan for a whole day!! I was there from 9am until 3pm.

[igneous]

Don't want to start a rumor, but read a while back a post in Dec that said all the DC jobs were filled and they are working on NY. Like anything I take what I read here with a grain of salt. I too applied back in Aug 05 didn't hear anything until tha call in May to schedule an interview. Plan for a whole day!! I was there from 9am until 3pm.
Yeah, seeing that SD just got hired a few weeks ago and was sent to DC, I don't think that's very true.

[MassVet]

sent in my fingerprint cards two weeks ago, im new here, pretty informative post.....hope to hear from them soon...



wishful thinking

[usmc1775]

Where in AVUE is that type of data communicated to us. I checked under my background investigation. I opened the only one that is active, and it only contains the things that I have sent, or provided in the initial workups. Is there a place that they track or confirm one's progress through this process. For example, a confirmation of reciept of fingerprint cards, or completion of the panel interview?

[igneous]

Someone over on the 911 forums said this
"I just got off the phone with FAMs medical after inquiring about that infamous psych recert email. They said my name wasn't on the list yet from Human Resources. FAMs medical receives a list of people to send the psych recert email too. She said, if you receive that email, you've pretty much been selected by the Final Hiring Panel and it is the last step. "
So I guess thats a good thing for those of us who get that recert email recently, I sure hope hes right :)

[apd98]

Where in AVUE is that type of data communicated to us. I checked under my background investigation. I opened the only one that is active, and it only contains the things that I have sent, or provided in the initial workups. Is there a place that they track or confirm one's progress through this process. For example, a confirmation of reciept of fingerprint cards, or completion of the panel interview?

My fingerprint cards can be viewed in the backround sec with my medical/BI release forms. There is nobody to call to check status. If you call Avue or FO they will give you standard answer to keep checking e-mail.If you get call for medical than you passed interview.

[apd98]

Got the call NY start July 23

[igneous]

Got the call NY start July 23
CONGRATS!!!
Damnit, I was going to go out this afternoon, maybe I will stay home for a little while.... :eek:

[dps747]

got the call.
NYC on the 24th.
long, long ride...

I was thrown for a bit of a loop because this very morning i got the "thanks but no thanks" email and i thought that i had run my course.
however i forgot that I had applied twice --once under the TSA only.
so, on the same day I was told that was not qualified enough under the TSA announcement I got hired!
i give up.

[igneous]

No call here yet...I had to go out for about an hour, but no message either. Still waiting..................................

[igneous]

got the call.
NYC on the 24th.
long, long ride...

I was thrown for a bit of a loop because this very morning i got the "thanks but no thanks" email and i thought that i had run my course.
however i forgot that I had applied twice --once under the TSA only.
so, on the same day I was told that was not qualified enough under the TSA announcement I got hired!
i give up.
Did you get the recert email this week?

[igneous]

You guys think that if I do get the call it won't be til monday? I wouldn't think they would be making calls during the weekend, but ya never know.

[MassVet]

Got a call, Interview tomorrow, the guy seemed pretty straightforward. This is my first interview. Any tips?

[igneous]

Got a call, Interview tomorrow, the guy seemed pretty straightforward. This is my first interview. Any tips?
Don't be too worried about it. I interviewed there. Everyone there is super nice. Maybe just look up some of the normal LE interview questions. Be prepared to spend a bit of time there too, because if you have to do the psych test as well that takes quite a while. Something like 700 or 800 questions I think.

[usmc1775]

I did the FBI phase 1 exam last month, the day after my Air Marshal panel interview. I thought it was one of the most difficult exams I have ever taken, and that counts the exams to get a miliary flight slot. Well I passed the exams for flight schol, and I sure as heck passed the Phase I exam too. Let the games begin.

I am perplexed about this psych test. I got the call to come in for the test two weeks ago. There is just one problem. I'm in Cali on involuntary recall orders. They have passed me off to LA so that I do not have to fly cross country again, but I have not heard form anyone. I'm tinking I'll start shaking some trees and see what falls out.

[Bollix]

First of all, thanks to all posters for the informatiion already posted in this thread. It's been an interesting 2hour read.

I have the physical in NY on Thurs. can anyone advise what it consists of?

Thanks and good luck.

[igneous]

First of all, thanks to all posters for the informatiion already posted in this thread. It's been an interesting 2hour read.

I have the physical in NY on Thurs. can anyone advise what it consists of?

Thanks and good luck.
Pretty much everything you can think of, and more.

[usmc1775]

I just got an e-mail telling me to schedule the physical. I took and passed the physical two months ago, passed the panel interview on the 15th of June, and sent off the fingerprint cards on the 17th of June. I should only be lacking the Psych and PRA. I'll call them in the morning.

[igneous]

I just got an e-mail telling me to schedule the physical. I took and passed the physical two months ago, passed the panel interview on the 15th of June, and sent off the fingerprint cards on the 17th of June. I should only be lacking the Psych and PRA. I'll call them in the morning.
They really need to find a better system than Avue. There are so many errors and problems with them.

[datfas]

Well just got the email today to schedule the medical/physical exam. Moving along again, even though it is going slow...

[bluelead]

I passed the interview in early May and completed the physical the end of May. How long is it usually before the call comes to schedule the psych? I haven't heard anything since early June letting me know FOH got the results of my physical. Call Avue and they don't tell me anything.

[kmontalto]

got the e-mail to schedule the physical, only problem...spent last night in the emergency room with a rolled ankle, it looks like a softball. Is this the phyiscal with the 1.5 mile run and everything?

[igneous]

got the e-mail to schedule the physical, only problem...spent last night in the emergency room with a rolled ankle, it looks like a softball. Is this the phyiscal with the 1.5 mile run and everything?
No, the physical is the doctor thing. The problem is they might not pass you through the physical because of your ankle, or they might not be able to do it at all.

[kmontalto]

No, the physical is the doctor thing. The problem is they might not pass you through the physical because of your ankle, or they might not be able to do it at all.

well that's great, it's always something

[igneous]

well that's great, it's always something
Well I had to run in place for a couple minutes to get my heard rate going, and I dont know if they would want you to do that with a screwed up ankle. Maybe they will just have you wait a couple weeks to do it. I dunno.

[usmc1775]

The physical I had to do was really simple. There were a lot of parts, (vision, hearing, EKG,) but nothing difficult. I did not have to do any sort of physical exertion that would have bothered a bum ankle. I think any doc would understand that it is a temporary thing.


I just found out that my e-mail asking me to schedule an already completed Physical was indeed sent in error. My first physical did not register in the system at AVUE. Alas the wait goes on....

[MassVet]

finished the panel yesterday and the 1200 question Psych and drug test. , went pretty well for what i can see. Next i am supposed to get the physical, Psych (in person) and abilities test. Hope im golden after that. Im ready for this processto be complete!!!

[datfas]

mass,
Hope you are ready for the wait. Had the interview around mid June didn't get an email until yesterday.

[MassVet]

Im always ready to wait.

[manstown]

Wouldn't worry too much about it. I had the interview and got the email about the Psych a week later. It differs from person to person. I took the medical before I had the interview. Most that I have read, had the interview then the medical. Just goes to show.

[MassVet]

where do you stand now mans?

[usmc1775]

I did my Panel in mid june, and got the Psych call the week later.. I had also done my Medical before anything else. At the Panel interview, they told me that the process was being jumbled up so that Medical was at the end. I'm just waiting as well.

[Bollix]

Just to clarify by physical I meant run/push-ups etc. I have the medical (EKG, Bloodwork) scheduled in the morning followed by the physical abilities test.

Does anyone know what the physical abilities test consist of??

Thanks and good luck guys & gals

[igneous]

Just to clarify by physical I meant run/push-ups etc. I have the medical (EKG, Bloodwork) scheduled in the morning followed by the physical abilities test.

Does anyone know what the physical abilities test consist of??

Thanks and good luck guys & gals
Check this out:
http://www.avuedigitalservices.com/pdf/OTD_Pre-Training_Guide.pdf
that should help ya

[manstown]

where do you stand now mans?


All done. Just waiting for them to look over my packet and make a decision.

[MassVet]

nice, finished my interview as I stated already on Tuesday, got the email for the physical exam today, ill call tomorrow to schedule it.

[igneous]

All done. Just waiting for them to look over my packet and make a decision.
Did you get the email to recertify your psych?

[Love_Ulcer]

i have received recert email couple of days ago. i suppose i'm done with the process.

[igneous]

i have received recert email couple of days ago. i suppose i'm done with the process.
Nice, let us know if you hear anything, apd98 got that same email as us and got an offer last friday. Some people got calls last friday, and some of us who got the same email got no calls.

[manstown]

Did you get the email to recertify your psych?


Don't need to recertify. I just did it not too long ago.

[Love_Ulcer]

it's strange why i received the recert email. my psyche eval was on april.

[igneous]

Don't need to recertify. I just did it not too long ago.
I didn't do mine that long ago either, but pretty much everyone in the past that has gotten that email has been hired. Its apparently the last step in the process, probably after the hiring panel. The email that they sent me about it had about 19 other people that it had been sent to as well, and some of them got hired, and some have not yet.

[Love_Ulcer]

i suppose we're too late for the august class... :(

[igneous]

i suppose we're too late for the august class... :(
Yup, I'm pretty sure we are :(

[apd98]

Took my psych test a month before getting hired and still had to do re-cert. Another guy that got hired in my pta group did not get the e-mail and got hired. I would not give up on the August class just yet. The last hiring group calls went out with less than a week notice. It seems no matter how much LE experience or military you have if you don't have college degree it seems they send BQA letter. Just my observation and not intel.

[MarcDominic]

I just called about my medical appointment. They're gonna call me back and mail me something to confirm a day and time. I hope my fitness assesment isn't gonna be after the physical. I don't know, getting blood drawn might affect my performance. I already did my panel, psych, and drug test. Does this mean the Background Investigation is going on right now?

[apd98]

I just called about my medical appointment. They're gonna call me back and mail me something to confirm a day and time. I hope my fitness assesment isn't gonna be after the physical. I don't know, getting blood drawn might affect my performance. I already did my panel, psych, and drug test. Does this mean the Background Investigation is going on right now?

Did you do your psych oral interview? If not this will be the next step after your Medical is cleared.

[MassVet]

Dont you think theyd mention the degree thing in the panel interview, Not all Military have had the chance to finish it, im 2 years into mine because i finished service 2 years ago in the usmc. I dont think it will be a big deal. Also, i dont think drawing blood will be to detrimental to your fitness assesment, they dont give you that on the spot anyway, that is strictly medical. When i called QTC today to schedule an appointment they said they would schedule some in the next 2 to three weeks, i think they will move faster. as august goes, i think we might have a lock if the process rolls smoothly, read this post, these guys move fast, one second you are standing by, the next you are hired and scheduled for take off!.