Air Marshal Job Open !

[ACYV223]

Same here eChat. Im looking forward to it....good luck to everyone else still waiting.

Congrats to runeire, echat, and Helo! I'm getting antsy, but I know my call should be coming soon. Are you guys all for DC?

[champs9399]

I got the call today too! One month between start date and actual training. That should be fun!

Thinking the same thing.... anybody have any thoughts/suggestions on where to live in DC for a month before training starts??

[danthony]

I realize that all federal time, etc. will transfer but does anyone know if the FAMS have an issue with someone technically being on the payroll of their current (city) department while they burn time and while in training with the FAMS.

[Helo]

Congrats to runeire, echat, and Helo! I'm getting antsy, but I know my call should be coming soon. Are you guys all for DC?

Thank you! I'm sure your phone will be ringing soon. Best of luck!

Thinking the same thing.... anybody have any thoughts/suggestions on where to live in DC for a month before training starts??

I'm sure they'll shack us up somewhere for a month... at least I hope so.

[ACYV223]

Thinking the same thing.... anybody have any thoughts/suggestions on where to live in DC for a month before training starts??

Check craigslist or any other rental website there may be someone trying to sub-lease. As for location I would check out Arlington (inlcluding Crystal city, Pentagon city and Rosslyn), Clarendon, or Alexandria. They are all fairly close to DCA and if you have to go to IAD then at least you will be going against traffic. Although I do not know where the DC Field Office is located (I will find out once I get my EOD), that is a big factor and may change where you want to live.

[SigFoo]

Have to wait to be cleared by medical - hopefully the delay doesn't cause me to be axed prematurely (knocking on wood while my fingers and toes are crossed).

[airisfine]

Thank you! I'm sure your phone will be ringing soon. Best of luck!



I'm sure they'll shack us up somewhere for a month... at least I hope so.
They don't shack you up, you pay out of pocket which is very costly up north but if it is to much for you, Im sure some guys who got the thin letter would gladly pay the bill if they could, beside you walk away with about 4 g's after training.

[airisfine]

I realize that all federal time, etc. will transfer but does anyone know if the FAMS have an issue with someone technically being on the payroll of their current (city) department while they burn time and while in training with the FAMS.

Plenty of my buddys did it no problem but I dont know if they went around telling everyone, I may have done it for about three weeks but I cannot confirm nor deny

[danthony]

copy direct.

[Helo]

Thanks Airisfine. It sounds like us DC guys need to band up to rent a place. Anyone down for a roommate at a hotel or something? :)

[airisfine]

Although I do not know where the DC Field Office is located .

Somewhere in the vast metropolis of Chantilly

[SemperFun]

I need the advise of somebody who is already in the FAMS. I applied for the Federal Air Marshal position this past February. I got my application in on time along with all of my supporting documentation. Shortly after, I received an e-mail stating that my application and all documentation had been received. Then, I received an e-mail informing me that the physical fitness test standards had changed. Having received both of these e-mails I know that the FAMS does in fact have my correct e-mail address on file and that they do not go to my spam or junk e-mail folders. After having not heard anything for several months, I call the help desk to inquire about the status of my application. I received a phone call back today saying that I was given a conditional offer of employment back in June but did not accept the offer within the prescribed amount of time. I swear on a stack of Bibles that I never received any such offer. If I had, I would have accepted the moment I received it. Now I am being told that nothing can be done about it, there might be another hiring announcement sometime this fall and that all I can do is re-apply. Please tell me that there is SOMETHING I can do. I just can't believe that there is nothing. If anybody has anything to offer besides, "suck it up and deal with it, better luck next time" I am all ears. Forgive me in advance if I sound upset. I understand that mistakes happen. It just deflates all motivation that I have that I was found acceptable to be given a conditional offer of employment, and now I have to wait for another round of hiring, re-apply and start the waiting game all over again because of a computer glitch or because somebody forgot.

[echat12]

Thanks Airisfine. It sounds like us DC guys need to band up to rent a place. Anyone down for a roommate at a hotel or something? :)

I'm so glad I'm already well-established in MD. That does have to suck though to have to be here for a month and then leave and come back 4 months later.

[Helo]

So you're volunteering to take us all in? Thanks! :p

[Fedman 111]

Does anyone else on here EOD within the next couple of weeks and ships out about a week after EOD all within this Month? I only ask to see if anyone else is in the same boat as me, I'm looking for a place to stay or share/split a hotel room for a week DC Field Office area. Send me a PM if anyone is in the same boat.

[dtown101]

Does anyone else on here EOD within the next couple of weeks and ships out about a week after EOD all within this Month? I only ask to see if anyone else is in the same boat as me, I'm looking for a place to stay or share/split a hotel room for a week DC Field Office area. Send me a PM if anyone is in the same boat.

there is a Hyatt Place one exit south of willard off of 28 not too far away from the FO

[dtown101]

Plenty of my buddys did it no problem but I dont know if they went around telling everyone, I may have done it for about three weeks but I cannot confirm nor denyyou have to be completely seperated from your local agency.....that is a ethical decision you are making...

[Bearcat357]

Please tell me that there is SOMETHING I can do. I just can't believe that there is nothing. If anybody has anything to offer besides, "suck it up and deal with it, better luck next time" I am all ears.

Dude....having worked for DHS at the FAMS HQ in NVA (up until 3 weeks ago)...and knowing how DHS/TSA/FAMS works....I hate to say it, but it is what it is.....and that's your SOL....

I know you don't want to hear that but they have so many folks applying if you miss something.....they drive on like you didn't want the position.....and will not go back to folks. I have heard that from the HR folks and the Supervisory FAMs that I worked with.....

You can call all you want/whoever you want.... but it will fall on deaf ears.....

[SemperFun]

Dude....having worked for DHS at the FAMS HQ in NVA (up until 3 weeks ago)...and knowing how DHS/TSA/FAMS works....I hate to say it, but it is what it is.....and that's your SOL....

I know you don't want to hear that but they have so many folks applying if you miss something.....they drive on like you didn't want the position.....and will not go back to folks. I have heard that from the HR folks and the Supervisory FAMs that I worked with.....

You can call all you want/whoever you want.... but it will fall on deaf ears.....

I guess that is the part that urks me the most. The assumption by not just you, but by HR is that I missed something. No I did not. Not just that, but this is want I want to do with my life. Lots of people apply who don't really care one way or another but I do. It sucks that people (no refering to you personally) can be so damn apathetic about it like its no big deal.

[Bearcat357]

It sucks that people (no refering to you personally) can be so damn apathetic about it like its no big deal.

And honestly, the HR folks don't care.... They have so many people that have applied that if there is any glich (whether it was your fault or not) they just keep going on....

Thats why several of the guys flying now have told folks to be careful when you talk salary with them. You tick them off.....or if you start making demands....they will call the next person and your done.....

[BPD Once]

Thats why several of the guys flying now have told folks to be careful when you talk salary with them. You tick them off.....or if you start making demands....they will call the next person and your done.....[/QUOTE]

I saw this first hand the day I got hired. People were trying to negotiate for an extra grand or two. They were told by HR that they would think about. Needless to say they are not with the agency. Additionally, I saw a lot of you talking about coming in as an H Band. I'm sure that most of you will come in at the low-mid G band which is fine. If you come in at an H you only get one huge 8% raise while those at G get 16% over two years. After that it is up to the wonderful system known as the IPI which is pretty much a way for bosses to give their buddies or butt kissers a raise while everyone else just gets a cola. Just some food for thought.

[airisfine]

you have to be completely seperated from your local agency.....that is a ethical decision you are making...

Yeah Yeah what he said

[gonefishin]

Thats why several of the guys flying now have told folks to be careful when you talk salary with them. You tick them off.....or if you start making demands....they will call the next person and your done.....

I saw this first hand the day I got hired. People were trying to negotiate for an extra grand or two. They were told by HR that they would think about. Needless to say they are not with the agency. Additionally, I saw a lot of you talking about coming in as an H Band. I'm sure that most of you will come in at the low-mid G band which is fine. If you come in at an H you only get one huge 8% raise while those at G get 16% over two years. After that it is up to the wonderful system known as the IPI which is pretty much a way for bosses to give their buddies or butt kissers a raise while everyone else just gets a cola. Just some food for thought.[/QUOTE]

Unless FAMS go to GS Scale...then the new hires won't hit I band for a long time

[Bearcat357]

I
Unless FAMS go to GS Scale...

And who knows if that will ever happen....

Do I hope it does...? Of course....but with Uncle Sugga....you never know...

[williamske]

I am in the Dominican Republic on vacation w-no cell phone service lol. I swung by a local internet place to catch up on the forum. Congrats to all who are moving foward and have a solid start date!

I was worried about not having access to my cell phone, but by the looks of it Newark still has not released any calls, and as of today I am still green and flying. No worries. Hard to be stressed with the beautiful scenery around here!

Best of luck!

[POSr]

I need the advise of somebody who is already in the FAMS. I applied for the Federal Air Marshal position this past February. I got my application in on time along with all of my supporting documentation. Shortly after, I received an e-mail stating that my application and all documentation had been received. Then, I received an e-mail informing me that the physical fitness test standards had changed. Having received both of these e-mails I know that the FAMS does in fact have my correct e-mail address on file and that they do not go to my spam or junk e-mail folders. After having not heard anything for several months, I call the help desk to inquire about the status of my application. I received a phone call back today saying that I was given a conditional offer of employment back in June but did not accept the offer within the prescribed amount of time. I swear on a stack of Bibles that I never received any such offer. If I had, I would have accepted the moment I received it. Now I am being told that nothing can be done about it, there might be another hiring announcement sometime this fall and that all I can do is re-apply. Please tell me that there is SOMETHING I can do. I just can't believe that there is nothing. If anybody has anything to offer besides, "suck it up and deal with it, better luck next time" I am all ears. Forgive me in advance if I sound upset. I understand that mistakes happen. It just deflates all motivation that I have that I was found acceptable to be given a conditional offer of employment, and now I have to wait for another round of hiring, re-apply and start the waiting game all over again because of a computer glitch or because somebody forgot.

This exact same thing happened to me. Two words...spam filters. That's where my COD went. The only way I caught it was I called HR to find out that I got the COD a month ago, and I immediately accepted. However, what sucks is that you can see where I am in the process now. I have no idea if I'm going to be dropped because of this or they will tell me "tough luck". I am hoping that I just get rolled into the next group of applicants. But, you're going to have to wait until the next announcement to apply.

[dshoes60031]

Hey for those that have not received a call and are still hoovering with no red X stay positive. I talked to the field office and my guy that works for social security administration for the federal government. They have a hold for the remaining positions until the new budget is passed in October. Once they receive their new fiscal year budget they will start calling alot of us that are still waiting. And for us from chicago that is good news because i think the new budget will bring more opening in Chicago!!!

[FAMSapplicant]

Awesome- At least there is still hope! I was wondering if they simply forgot to send me my 'you suck' email =P

[ThanAgain]

That's good news

[WVU Brubbz]

Is anyone just waiting for their pre-hire background to be completed?

[Weapon X]

Yes WVU I am waiting on that

[WVU Brubbz]

Have you been cleared for medical?

[cuyler2281]

I'm waiting still for my offer letter. I received my welcome letter from the NYFO, but HR is slow..lol. Hopefully I get before I start work monday in NY.

[ACYV223]

Is anyone just waiting for their pre-hire background to be completed?

I still have not received my EOD so I would take that as I am still waiting for my medical and BI to be completed. Let's just keep our fingers crossed for a call this week.

[WVU Brubbz]

My medical has been completed well at least that is what it is saying on the dashboard. Just waiting on BI.

[ACYV223]

My medical has been completed well at least that is what it is saying on the dashboard. Just waiting on BI.

Oh really! I thought dashboard was unreliable, but I guess I'll have to go and check it now.

Just checked and I am still hovering over medical

[Weapon X]

yes cleared medical

[wfoss]

I need the advise of somebody who is already in the FAMS. I applied for the Federal Air Marshal position this past February. I got my application in on time along with all of my supporting documentation. Shortly after, I received an e-mail stating that my application and all documentation had been received. Then, I received an e-mail informing me that the physical fitness test standards had changed. Having received both of these e-mails I know that the FAMS does in fact have my correct e-mail address on file and that they do not go to my spam or junk e-mail folders. After having not heard anything for several months, I call the help desk to inquire about the status of my application. I received a phone call back today saying that I was given a conditional offer of employment back in June but did not accept the offer within the prescribed amount of time. I swear on a stack of Bibles that I never received any such offer. If I had, I would have accepted the moment I received it. Now I am being told that nothing can be done about it, there might be another hiring announcement sometime this fall and that all I can do is re-apply. Please tell me that there is SOMETHING I can do. I just can't believe that there is nothing. If anybody has anything to offer besides, "suck it up and deal with it, better luck next time" I am all ears. Forgive me in advance if I sound upset. I understand that mistakes happen. It just deflates all motivation that I have that I was found acceptable to be given a conditional offer of employment, and now I have to wait for another round of hiring, re-apply and start the waiting game all over again because of a computer glitch or because somebody forgot.

I am in the exact same boat as you. I supposedly received my offer in June as well but do not recall ever seeing any e-mail in my inbox or junk mail folder because I checked both routinely to make sure that did not happen. Oh well I guess I will just suck it up and reapply in the fall when the new announcement opens up.

[cuyler2281]

Good luck to everyone still in the proess!!!

[formerfed]

Who is still waiting on the final offer hardcopy?

[DPO]

Who is still waiting on the final offer hardcopy?

Yo!

[Helo]

Who is still waiting on the final offer hardcopy?

I am, and it's slightly freakin' me out. I put in my 2 weeks notice when I found out through the phone because the guy told me "you can consider this a final offer, so please put in at your current workplace." He also said I should I receive the hard copy in 48 hrs, well it's been about 58. :confused: I called HR earlier today and left a message and haven't heard anything. Are you in the same boat?

[runeire]

Im still waiting for the hard copy as well. I notified my current department yesterday....

[champs9399]

Waitin on my hardcopy still also. And, like others, I already put my notice in. Was a little apprehensive to notify my employer without the hardcopy, but they said the phone call was "official". Even though my plane is flying at the end...would just feel a little better with the salary and stuff in writing.

[Fedman 111]

Guys,

I got my Final Hard Copy Offer yesterday, make sure you check your junk and spam folders that's where mine ended up..... Good luck to everyone still waiting.

[Helo]

Oh, I have been. Thanks though!

[williamske]

Could my call have been forwarded to my junk mailbox? Just kidding...

[formerfed]

They are sending final offer hardcopies this morning and it is possible to negotiate pay.

[ifineed2]

They are sending final offer hardcopies this morning and it is possible to negotiate pay.

OMG I WAS RIGHT!!! Maybe now's the time for "I told you so"

[danthony]

Is the pay negotiation upon receipt of the letter?

[formerfed]

I would imagine you have to negotiate pay before the letter is drafted during the final offer phone call.

[danthony]

anybody successful in negotiating a salary increase from this new batch?

[Md094]

I did not negotiate for pay last year but I am kicking myself in the butt for not trying to get them to match my vacation days off I had with my old LEO job. It sucks starting over getting less days off per year than you had. I am not sure if they would have done it but I wish I would have thought of it then.

[formerfed]

They will match pay If you ask and can justify it to FAM management. I have never heard of the gov matching vacation time from a non gov job. The justification should include previous FED time. It also helps with bypassing the 2 year probationary period, if you have completed a previous FED probationary period.

[Weapon X]

Hey Everyone, Just got my FO today at lunch time. Report date of the 28th as well. Anyone have any idea where theyre going to stay until Artesia???

[Weapon X]

PM me if you're WFO

[Helo]

Hey Everyone, Just got my FO today at lunch time. Report date of the 28th as well. Anyone have any idea where theyre going to stay until Artesia???

That's the million dollar question that I thought the email would address. crapola.

[cuyler2281]

I was able to negotiate. As long as you can justify your reasoning.

[cuyler2281]

Danthony, once the offer letter is signed or if you show up to your FO on your EOD your salary can't be adjusted.

[ArkansasFan24]

Dang this thread moves fast. Air Marshal must be a sought after job.

[echat12]

I would imagine you have to negotiate pay before the letter is drafted during the final offer phone call.

During my phone call, the gentleman I spoke with did not have my salary information. He said he was just making phone calls and that HR would be working on the pay before I received my letter. He gave me a POC to refer to, and I still have not received my letter. Unfortunately, there was no room to negotiate on the phone, since he did not know my salary information.

[Helo]

During my phone call, the gentleman I spoke with did not have my salary information. He said he was just making phone calls and that HR would be working on the pay before I received my letter. He gave me a POC to refer to, and I still have not received my letter. Unfortunately, there was no room to negotiate on the phone, since he did not know my salary information.

Same scenario here. I was wondering if he was just saying that... haha

[DOEWifey]

My husband got his call today as well... reporting on the 28th for the NYFO! I am curious how many ppl are out of state and moving families to the area? Maybe some of the wives should "hook up" and help eachother out with information on the area... i'm just sayin! haha

[Md094]

I relocated to my field office and found a room to rent from a family while I waited for the academy to start. Other guys rented rooms at Extended Stay Hotels or similiar places. The training unit at your office may have some contact numbers for people renting out rooms.

[cuyler2281]

Weapon X I thought you were going to NYFO? Anyway good luck! For you guys who's EOD is the 28th, when is your FLETC date?

[DPO]

Weapon X I thought you were going to NYFO? Anyway good luck! For you guys who's EOD is the 28th, when is your FLETC date?

Last week of October.

[cuyler2281]

Cool I'll be out there the last week in September. See you guys out there.

[Weapon X]

Hey thanks Cuyler, no I'm a WFO guy. Good luck to you man, I'll be at the FO until the Nov class they told me, which I assume starts the last week in November?

[DOEWifey]

my husband will be in the Nov class as well... are they gonna have you PT'n ur butts off for 2months while you wait?? =)

[gonefishin]

my husband will be in the Nov class as well... are they gonna have you PT'n ur butts off for 2months while you wait?? =)
Yes they will...the time at the field office will be harder than any of the training during phase I and II

[ACYV223]

This weekend was pretty long. The only thing that kept me sane was the opening weekend of football. I have a feeling I am going to get my call this week. Good luck to everyone still waiting for the call.

[echat12]

Can anyone who has a final offer with salary pls pm me? I got another job offer willing to pay me gs 9 and fams HR has not yet drafted my salary. I'm trying to find out what I might start out at (with concrete #s, not speculation) so I can negotiate. (Or should I just call and pester HR again and tell them I got another offer?)

[Helo]

I've called HR twice, once on Thursday and again on Friday... NO return call yet. ugh. Im gettin' anxious here.

[echat12]

I've called HR twice, once on Thursday and again on Friday... NO return call yet. ugh. Im gettin' anxious here.

She called me back on friday and told me to expect my letter no earlier than the end of this week but probably next week. Maybe you don't have the right person's number? Do you want me to pm you with the poc name and number?

I have to call this other agency back so I don't know what to do? Maybe they will expedite my offer if I tell them I need to make a decision?

[ACYV223]

Can anyone who has a final offer with salary pls pm me? I got another job offer willing to pay me gs 9 and fams HR has not yet drafted my salary. I'm trying to find out what I might start out at (with concrete #s, not speculation) so I can negotiate. (Or should I just call and pester HR again and tell them I got another offer?)

Hey Echat,

You do know that GS-9 is the low end of the G band. It might be more important to ask yourself what is the promotional potential (i.e. is it a 9-11 or 9-12 or 9-13) if promotion goes up to 12 or 13 then you should take that job but if it is only a 9 then you might want to reconsider, because at least this job you have a chance to move up without having to change positions. Just my opinion though. Good luck though it has to be stressful right now.

[williamske]

You also have to consider locality. I am a current federal employee and my current salary is base + locality. I am on a noncompetitive 7/9/11 appointment with potential to 13. I get my 9 in October :-)

My current job is moving to MD. I currently live in NJ. I would be taking a 4% locality pay cut if I were to follow my job. I have done some salary comparisons. If you want to PM me I can show you the numbers I came up with for general GS government jobs vs. FAMS pay bands.

One of the benefits that I have found with FAMS is the law enforcement retirement. It is better than the current retirement for GS general government workers.

One member wrote that if one position had promotion potential to GS 13, they would consider taking that job over the FAMS offer. Why?

I understand the benefits to keeping a basic government job... weekends/holidays off, able to use vacation and sick time as you wish, and stable 9-5 hours (or alternate work schedules if you are like myself). I was just wondering what your reasons for choosing the GS13 potential job vs. FAMS. Because I am currently in that situation, but the FAMS wins on my end.

Just asking... do not yell at me or get vicious.

[ACYV223]

Hey williamske,

I was the one who said they should take the GS 13 job only because it appeared that it was a toss up between the one job and this FAMS job. Every situation is different and I completely agree with everything in your post I just did not explain myself clearly I guess. I am currently a 9 with a 19 % locality pay and I just wanted to warn echat that a GS-9 is equivalent to low end of the G band. I also believe that in my situation I would choose FAMS because you are an LEO and retirement is a lot better than non LEO jobs. Moreover, this job/career, simply put is exactly what I want to get into, but that is only my situation.


You also have to consider locality. I am a current federal employee and my current salary is base + locality. I am on a noncompetitive 7/9/11 appointment with potential to 13. I get my 9 in October :-)

My current job is moving to MD. I currently live in NJ. I would be taking a 4% locality pay cut if I were to follow my job. I have done some salary comparisons. If you want to PM me I can show you the numbers I came up with for general GS government jobs vs. FAMS pay bands.

One of the benefits that I have found with FAMS is the law enforcement retirement. It is better than the current retirement for GS general government workers.

One member wrote that if one position had promotion potential to GS 13, they would consider taking that job over the FAMS offer. Why?

I understand the benefits to keeping a basic government job... weekends/holidays off, able to use vacation and sick time as you wish, and stable 9-5 hours (or alternate work schedules if you are like myself). I was just wondering what your reasons for choosing the GS13 potential job vs. FAMS. Because I am currently in that situation, but the FAMS wins on my end.

Just asking... do not yell at me or get vicious.

[danthony]

I have seen a few people on this forum that are in several different processes. If you had your choice between FAMS and the FBI or USSS, which would you take?

[williamske]

Hey williamske,

I was the one who said they should take the GS 13 job only because it appeared that it was a toss up between the one job and this FAMS job. Every situation is different and I completely agree with everything in your post I just did not explain myself clearly I guess. I am currently a 9 with a 19 % locality pay and I just wanted to warn echat that a GS-9 is equivalent to low end of the G band. I also believe that in my situation I would choose FAMS because you are an LEO and retirement is a lot better than non LEO jobs. Moreover, this job/career, simply put is exactly what I want to get into, but that is only my situation.

Ok cool :-) I was just wondering.

[cduke1]

What is the average time for you guys to get a call for a final offer after you completed all the other issues(Med/Drug/Background). Finished mine and still waiting on a Final call. Pulling my hair out again, what little I have left!

[DPO]

What is the average time for you guys to get a call for a final offer after you completed all the other issues(Med/Drug/Background). Finished mine and still waiting on a Final call. Pulling my hair out again, what little I have left!

Took about 2 weeks for me.

[echat12]

Hey williamske,

I was the one who said they should take the GS 13 job only because it appeared that it was a toss up between the one job and this FAMS job. Every situation is different and I completely agree with everything in your post I just did not explain myself clearly I guess. I am currently a 9 with a 19 % locality pay and I just wanted to warn echat that a GS-9 is equivalent to low end of the G band. I also believe that in my situation I would choose FAMS because you are an LEO and retirement is a lot better than non LEO jobs. Moreover, this job/career, simply put is exactly what I want to get into, but that is only my situation.

I wish it were a toss up. The FAMS is what it is. The other one is an FBI job in my current career field. I would be at Quantico versus WFO, but I still get DC locality. It's not LE so yes, no travel, no weekends, stable hours, etc. But here I have an opportunity with FAMS to do something completely different, which I may or may not enjoy or be good at. I still think it's worth a shot.

Also, I would not get LEAP with the FBI. At first, they were starting me at 41K and I balked and said no. Now they're telling me they are willing to pay me for my education and start at GS 9. I know FAMS will pay more, but now it's close enough to consider other factors. Still think FAMS is too good an opportunity to pass up. I could always go back if it doesn't work out but I may not have this opportunity (FAMS) again. Nonetheless, it is a good situation to be in. I just wish I could negotiate salary with FAMS, which I can't do because they haven't given me one yet.

[danthony]

EChat, why wouldn't you get LEAP with the FBI?

[echat12]

EChat, why wouldn't you get LEAP with the FBI?

Biologists don't get leap!

[danthony]

oh okay. So it's not an SA position. Gotcha! My motherinlaw did the Biologist thing for the Army/Pentagon for years.

[ACYV223]

So I take it no calls "final offers" went out today?

[PigsdoFly]

Does anyone know when the next job announcement is going to be?

November-December

[MPDCjock]

Okay, I'll keep an eye open. Can't wait...

[Blind Justice]

Does anyone know if you need to reapply with the next annoucement, if... Your still flying green over refered for selction (from this annoucement) however never received a call for medical, nor received a rejection email?

Will they just pull us from where we are now for the next annoucement, or do we all start from square one again?

Im sure nobody has an exact answer to this, but I just thought Id throw it out there for speculation.

Thanks,

Stay safe!

[ArkPO]

Blind - I have been wondering that exact same thing.

[j-mac]

Cleared for medical yesterday...received final offer this morning. Reporting end of September. No salary info until later in the week. Stand by your phones, boys and girls. :)

[DPO]

Cleared for medical yesterday...received final offer this morning. Reporting end of September. No salary info until later in the week. Stand by your phones, boys and girls. :)

Congrats, good to kow they're still calling people. What field office?

[Cman21]

Has anyone received a call for Newark? I am still green but no call good or bad.

[ThanAgain]

Has anyone received a call for Newark? I am still green but no call good or bad.

I think there are a few people with no calls but still green on the dashboard

[williamske]

I am also green and waiting for an initial call from Newark. I bet you they will be giving calls out after the budget is approved ;-) At least that is what I am hoping lol

[danthony]

I got a question for current FAMS or any that are in "the know". I know that a cursory background investigation was done that included credit and criminal checks and that the full TS investigation will continue while candidates are in the academy. I guess my question is, does anyone know of someone who went to the academy, completed it, and was subsequently dismissed as a result of their background investigation?

[ACYV223]

Cleared for medical yesterday...received final offer this morning. Reporting end of September. No salary info until later in the week. Stand by your phones, boys and girls. :)

Congrats J-mac! That's gonna be kind of tight for you having to report the end of Sept. Giving two weeks notice to current employer and moving your family from the west coast. Good luck with everything though.

[Helo]

Are we covering the costs to get out to the field office (initially) or are they? I know they're not moving us out there, but I was hoping they would at least get our ticket for when we have to report at the end of the month (these costs are just piling up).

In fact, does anyone know ANYTHING? I'm ~12 days from reporting and I dont know squat. The communication is poor at best.

[DPO]

Are we covering the costs to get out to the field office (initially) or are they? I know they're not moving us out there, but I was hoping they would at least get our ticket for when we have to report at the end of the month (these costs are just piling up).

I was wondering the same thing, I tried calling this morning and left a message. No return call yet. And I feel you on the costs piling up, having to break my lease here and staying in New York for a month is gonna put a dent in my wallet.

[POSr]

Does anyone know if you need to reapply with the next annoucement, if... Your still flying green over refered for selction (from this annoucement) however never received a call for medical, nor received a rejection email?

Will they just pull us from where we are now for the next annoucement, or do we all start from square one again?

Im sure nobody has an exact answer to this, but I just thought Id throw it out there for speculation.

Thanks,

Stay safe!

My guess is that they will do one of two things. 1. Send us an email telling us NOT to apply for the next announcement since we're still in progress, or 2. Terminate us where we are, and have everyone start over from the begining. (Sounds like a waste, but it makes sense to them)

[ACYV223]

Are we covering the costs to get out to the field office (initially) or are they? I know they're not moving us out there, but I was hoping they would at least get our ticket for when we have to report at the end of the month (these costs are just piling up).

In fact, does anyone know ANYTHING? I'm ~12 days from reporting and I dont know squat. The communication is poor at best.

I was wondering the same thing, I tried calling this morning and left a message. No return call yet. And I feel you on the costs piling up, having to break my lease here and staying in New York for a month is gonna put a dent in my wallet.

Hey guys,

In the announcement I believe they stated that no relocation expenses were to be paid. Send me a PM, I do have some other info that might help you.

[Helo]

Hey guys,

In the announcement I believe they stated that no relocation expenses were to be paid. Send me a PM, I do have some other info that might help you.

Staying out there for a month, only to go away for 4 for training is just ludicrous. Extended stays are trash, and apartments don't want to rent for a month. Fun stuff.

I guess I'll start sleeping at the airport. Might as well get used to it now, right? :D

[danthony]

Anybody know how the pay bands go? Are there steps like in the GS level? How long does it take to get to top pay (whatever that currently is)? Thanks

[dtown101]

Are we covering the costs to get out to the field office (initially) or are they? I know they're not moving us out there, but I was hoping they would at least get our ticket for when we have to report at the end of the month (these costs are just piling up).

In fact, does anyone know ANYTHING? I'm ~12 days from reporting and I dont know squat. The communication is poor at best.

the cost is all on you until you go to acy for one week and then to artesia and then back up to acy...
in acy your lodging is covered...food is not but the hotel has a hot n cold breakfast...lunch and dinner is on you....there are local grocery stores which you can get food. your hotel room has a small fridge

when you are in artesia...your lodging and food is all covered....

at the end of training they will fly you back to your FO city unless you are going to WFO or NYC(drive back)

[Cman21]

the cost is all on you until you go to acy for one week and then to artesia and then back up to acy...
in acy your lodging is covered...food is not but the hotel has a hot n cold breakfast...lunch and dinner is on you....there are local grocery stores which you can get food. your hotel room has a small fridge

when you are in artesia...your lodging and food is all covered....

at the end of training they will fly you back to your FO city unless you are going to WFO or NYC(drive back)

So you are saying that while training for 2 1/2 months in NJ lunch and dinner is not provided?

[BPD Once]

That is correct. During your 10 weeks at ACY you are responsible for lunch and dinner. There is a grocery store down the street that is clean and reasonable. They have a pizza deal on Mondays for a large pizza at $5.99. It will feed you for two days or so. Additionally, at the end of training you get a per diem check for roughly $3,500. I spent about $25 a week for food and went home on weekends.

[cuyler2281]

Halo, you can stay at a crash pad for 175-200 bucks a month. Good luck to you guys, its pretty cool at the NYFO.

[DPO]

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[gonefishin]

Its not uncommon to be at the field office for a month, sometimes two, before you head to training.

[Helo]

at the end of training they will fly you back to your FO city unless you are going to WFO or NYC(drive back)

So you caravan back in company vehicles or are you expected to bring your own vehicle?

I would absolutely die if I were not on a forum, as HR hasn't told me any of this. :confused:

[POSr]

So you caravan back in company vehicles or are you expected to bring your own vehicle?

I would absolutely die if I were not on a forum, as HR hasn't told me any of this. :confused:

If you can drive there from your FO you're probably taking your own vehicle.

Honestly, I would expect the FAMS to make you pay for most things up front and reimburse you later. You're probably going to have to pay for hotels, airport parking, etc while you're on duty and submit an expense report later. There's probably a lot you're going to write off on your taxes too.

[Helo]

Ohh, I get what he's saying now. They'll fly you back to your home FO, not the one youre assigned to? That leads into another question; how long do they give you to report,post training (so you can get moved).

[danthony]

Ok, now I'm confused. So lets say I live in NC but was assigned to the WFO, at the end of training do I get flown back to NC or DC?

[echat12]

Ohh, I get what he's saying now. They'll fly you back to your home FO, not the one youre assigned to? That leads into another question; how long do they give you to report,post training (so you can get moved).

I'm sure most of your questions will be answered by the time you start. You do have a month before training anyway. Also, I haven't received my letter yet, but I would imagine there's some information in there, no? At any rate, once you have an actual "boss", I would direct these questions to him/her. I'm afraid we're full of speculation, which might be leading us to believe inaccurate information. Of course, that is what msg boards are for, right?;)

[gonefishin]

Ohh, I get what he's saying now. They'll fly you back to your home FO, not the one youre assigned to? That leads into another question; how long do they give you to report,post training (so you can get moved).
As far as I know they won't fly you back to your home FO....they will pay mileage from ACY to your assigned office and most offices will give you a week off paid to move to your assigned office

[ACYV223]

I'm sure most of your questions will be answered by the time you start. You do have a month before training anyway. Also, I haven't received my letter yet, but I would imagine there's some information in there, no? At any rate, once you have an actual "boss", I would direct these questions to him/her. I'm afraid we're full of speculation, which might be leading us to believe inaccurate information. Of course, that is what msg boards are for, right?;)

So echat have you made a decision yet or are you gonna wait for the hard copy of the FAM final offer before you decide which offer to take?

[cuyler2281]

After ACY FAM will transport you back to your home FO. Once you get back, they will calulate your milage from your HOR and that will determine your time off to move.

[echat12]

So echat have you made a decision yet or are you gonna wait for the hard copy of the FAM final offer before you decide which offer to take?

That would have been ideal, but FBI made me answer them pretty much that day. I couldn't turn FAMS down...too great of an opportunity.

[runeire]

For those of you that got your final offer last week and a date...you are still waiting on your salary offer and info right? Any insight as to when to expect that? I was really hoping to get it this week...

[BPD Once]

That would have been ideal, but FBI made me answer them pretty much that day. I couldn't turn FAMS down...too great of an opportunity.

I must have missed something. Did you turn down FBI for FAMS? If so I hope you are at peace with your decision.

[ifineed2]

After ACY FAM will transport you back to your home FO. Once you get back, they will calulate your milage from your HOR and that will determine your time off to move.

how long do they give you to report,post training (so you can get moved).

This decision is usually made at your office, UNLESS it's changed you may be given 3 days or an entire week...it completely depends on the Admin Leave they will allow and a lot of that depends on your SAC and ATSAC. There is a FAM policy regulating this, but it's really controlled internally.

Guys, here's a couple little tips from someone who's BTDT.

You need to stop freaking out about everything you don't have an answer to, one thing about FAMS is that things will change A LOT so you have to just get use to not knowing and going with it. EVERYONE in the last few hiring cycles has been through everything you're going through, believe me when I say that all of your questions have been asked and answered.

Where to live? If you're moving in from out of the area, for the first month find someone you can stand and get a room together (yes in a hotel), heck if possible take 3-4 people to a room and reduce the cost to as little as possible on yourself. All you need it for is sleeping/showering. You're paying for this, it's your responsibility to find yourself a place to live, my advice? Find some place close to your FO, ie walking distance if possible ESPECIALLY if you don't take your POV.

What will we do the first month? Paperwork, paperwork and more paperwork. Did I mention paperwork? I would say PT, PT, PT and more PT but that also depends on your FO. My FO killed us, we'd PT for 4 hours a day...and I'm NOT exaggerating, but when we met in ACY there were people who hadn't done anything that month.

Training? Artesia sucks, 'nuff said, just deal with it. ACY is fun, Atlantic city is a dump, you feed yourself lunch and dinner....yes it's out of your pocket...yes it sucks, get over it. You'll be reimbursed at the end of training for expenses (except what you lose at the casino's and on the skeezers in Atlantic City)

That's all you need to concern yourself with, EVERYTHING else will be taught to you, and I mean EVERYTHING.

[ACYV223]

That would have been ideal, but FBI made me answer them pretty much that day. I couldn't turn FAMS down...too great of an opportunity.

That sucks that they forced you to give them a decision so quick, but I can understand why they did that. They obviously wanted to know whether to pursue someone else or not. All that matters is that you feel you made the right decision.

[j-mac]

Anyone know if there is PT in the NYFO before going to Artesia? I really hope so. Four hours a day would be awesome, no sarcasm intended.

[Helo]

Thanks for the responses all, I appreciate it.

I would also REALLY appreciate getting this e-mail (from HR) ASAP, but the more I think about it (I know) the slower it will be...

[gonefishin]

Anyone know if there is PT in the NYFO before going to Artesia? I really hope so. Four hours a day would be awesome, no sarcasm intended.

Yes...there will be lots of PT

[echat12]

I must have missed something. Did you turn down FBI for FAMS? If so I hope you are at peace with your decision.

Yes. but it wasn't a SA position. That would've been crazy!

[Tmack82]

Hey Guys,

I applied back in January and got an email a few months ago saying my application was not going to be considered becuase I didn't submit a form they requested. I thought I submitted everything the application requested.

My question is, do you know if there has been another announcement since? I keep checking usajobs but I havn't seen anything and am trying to guess when the next one might be on there... was hoping I didn't just miss one.

Thanks,

[Zurita210]

What up guys,

Im waiting for hiring to start in Houston, im in talks with a Marshal from Houston that I met a few months ago after getting into border patrol didnt work out for me. He sent me a flyer about 3 weeks ago saying that the West coast is starting to the process for Marshals and told me they should be in Texas soon. How soon is it?? The Marshal im speaking to works for the Houston division and is suppose to be a big dog here, he's helping me get in. What region does Houston fall under, because Ive seen tons of forums saying different regions have started already but I dont know what region Houston falls under. Ive been reading a lot of peoples statements and learned a lot so far.

[PeeOwed]

What up guys,

Im waiting for hiring to start in Houston, im in talks with a Marshal from Houston that I met a few months ago after getting into border patrol didnt work out for me. He sent me a flyer about 3 weeks ago saying that the West coast is starting to the process for Marshals and told me they should be in Texas soon. How soon is it?? The Marshal im speaking to works for the Houston division and is suppose to be a big dog here, he's helping me get in. What region does Houston fall under, because Ive seen tons of forums saying different regions have started already but I dont know what region Houston falls under. Ive been reading a lot of peoples statements and learned a lot so far.

Federal Air Marshals and U.S. Marshals are entirely different jobs.

[Zurita210]

Federal Air Marshals and U.S. Marshals are entirely different jobs.

Oh, sorry man, thanks for clarifying. I figured Air Marshals was a department in the US Marshals, but thanks

[AboveTheClouds]

Hello all,

Avid reader, first-time poster of this forum. I am part of this recent hiring cycle and will be a NYFO...just trying to speak with anyone else in the same boat with EOD real soon. Please PM me.

[shaw77]

Just wondering if anyone got a final offer for a different field office than what there conditional offer was for? I have a conditional for NYFO, was hoping for Chicago. Thanks.

[cduke1]

Anybody still waiting for a final offer and all the requirements are done? I finished mine early last week and no call yet. Just wondering b/c some guys on here are suppose to report on the 28th. If they call me and tell me that, that gives me about 2 weeks to get things in order.

Has anyone got another date besides the 28th?

[WVU Brubbz]

ACYV223 and I are in the same situation as yourself. We have completed everything just waiting on the final offer.

[ACYV223]

Anybody still waiting for a final offer and all the requirements are done? I finished mine early last week and no call yet. Just wondering b/c some guys on here are suppose to report on the 28th. If they call me and tell me that, that gives me about 2 weeks to get things in order.

Has anyone got another date besides the 28th?

Yes sir, I think that the 28th is out of the question for us now. The next pay period starts on Oct. 12th which is a FED holiday so the next reporting dates might be Oct. 13th, but that's only a guess.

[cuyler2281]

Shaw77, sorry buddy but if the offer is for NYFO that's all she wrote. Chi-town has been closed up for some time now. NYC and DC are priority fills. NYC having the most priority.

[Nino06]

Has any received a rejection letter/email, or a "X"?

[DOEWifey]

from what I understand (and I could be wrong, please correct me if I am) Everyone being hired is reporting to NYFO on the date above... and reporting to training from there... if you have a Nov class date, you report at the end of this month and do paperwork/PT until your class date and leave from there. If you are going to get a call, you will probably be told to report at the end of this month.
Good luck

[shaw77]

Thanks cuyler. Just wanting for the final offer then. Already looking at craigslist for NYC.

[cuyler2281]

Anyone who is reporting to NYFO next week. A word of advice.. Run and be in shape. You guys are going to PT everyday sometimes twice a day. Your school date may be 30 days from your EOD. Good luck!!!

[apple1610]

Has anyone got another date besides the 28th?
Yes sir, I think that the 28th is out of the question for us now. The next pay period starts on Oct. 12th which is a FED holiday so the next reporting dates might be Oct. 13th, but that's only a guess.

I wouldn't be so sure about that...

What have the DC people decided to to for temporary housing? If I get an extended stay place, what part of the city? Also, I was told not to expect my email for a few days still, so can someone message me with some of the more generic details (i.e., what to pack, what to expect, etc)

Thanks.

[seanjohn]

If your going to Washington FO Word of advice is that the FO is not in DC it is in Fairfax, check the western part of the county for places to stay

[DPO]

Can someone PM me with the location of the NYFO? Thanks

[cuyler2281]

East Elmshurst Queens

[DPO]

East Elmshurst Queens

Thanks

[ACYV223]

Anybody still waiting for a final offer and all the requirements are done? I finished mine early last week and no call yet. Just wondering b/c some guys on here are suppose to report on the 28th. If they call me and tell me that, that gives me about 2 weeks to get things in order.

Has anyone got another date besides the 28th?

ACYV223 and I are in the same situation as yourself. We have completed everything just waiting on the final offer.

Yes sir, I think that the 28th is out of the question for us now. The next pay period starts on Oct. 12th which is a FED holiday so the next reporting dates might be Oct. 13th, but that's only a guess.

I wouldn't be so sure about that...



Apple1610 could you elaborate on what you wrote, if you have any info I would like to know. It would be greatly appreciated if you post your thoughts or at least PM me. Thanks.

[MPDCjock]

Does anyone know if the FAMS have an announcement every year?

Or do they sometimes skip a year or go on a hiring freeze?

[Blind Justice]

Theyve had 1 a year for the past 3 years... Not sure about before that...

[apple1610]

Apple1610 could you elaborate on what you wrote, if you have any info I would like to know. It would be greatly appreciated if you post your thoughts or at least PM me. Thanks.

I received my final offer with VERY short notice. I didn't want someone, yourself included, to be discouraged simply because the 28th is nearly here. That's not to say that there wont be dates after that as was being suggested. Just don't psych yourself out is all that I'm saying.

[jb5722]

Anyone who is reporting to NYFO next week. A word of advice.. Run and be in shape. You guys are going to PT everyday sometimes twice a day. Your school date may be 30 days from your EOD. Good luck!!!

sounds like someone got an introduction to the mat room.

[ACYV223]

I received my final offer with VERY short notice. I didn't want someone, yourself included, to be discouraged simply because the 28th is nearly here. That's not to say that there wont be dates after that as was being suggested. Just don't psych yourself out is all that I'm saying.

All I wanted was for you to elaborate on your statement, because I wasnt sure what you were trying to say. Thanks for the advice, i will try not to psych myself out. Good luck with everything.

[aNewFam]

To anyone who knows, in Artestia and Atlantic City, do you have to share a room or bathroom? what is provided in the rooms? Once you complete artesia, do they immediatley fly you out to AC or do they give you a chance to go home and drive your car up to AC?

[Statetriple]

In Artesia you have your own room that shares a bathroom with another FAMC in Atlantic City your in a room alone with your own bathroom. You are under FAMS control at all times during travel no deviation from the group plan. Get your car on the weekend.

[echat12]

For anyone, like me, wondering what's in store for us, I found this while perusing the FLETC website. It lists all the requirements FAMS trainees have to complete while in Artesia. I found it interesting. I also found interesting the things we DON'T have to do.
http://www.fletc.gov/student-information/student-information-bulletin/glynco/master-peprs.pdf

[Weapon X]

Thanks echat, that is a great guide/piece of information

[MPDCjock]

Theyve had 1 a year for the past 3 years... Not sure about before that...

Thanks Blind Justice! I hope there will be another one soon.

[j-mac]

Has anyone received an email copy of their final offer yet? I received the phone call last Tuesday but have not been told salary or anything. I am supposed to move 2,800 miles with 12 days notice and no salary offer? Anyone else have this problem?

[champs9399]

Has anyone received an email copy of their final offer yet? I received the phone call last Tuesday but have not been told salary or anything. I am supposed to move 2,800 miles with 12 days notice and no salary offer? Anyone else have this problem?

I think pretty much all of us starting next Monday are in the same boat. I know some of the guys that started last Monday (the 14th) didn't get their letter until the Friday right before they started (the 11th).

[POSr]

Has anyone received an email copy of their final offer yet? I received the phone call last Tuesday but have not been told salary or anything. I am supposed to move 2,800 miles with 12 days notice and no salary offer? Anyone else have this problem?

Yes, you might have to. 12 days is pretty gracious too, so make sure you're thankful for having 12 days notice.

P.S. Welcome to the federal goverment.

Seriously, I am really sorry if that was smart-***** response. It's not fair, and it down right sucks. It's a terrible thing for a family to go through, but, the feds don't really care.

[POSr]

Anyone notice that the dashboard is down today?

**Update. I called the TSA. I was dropped from the hiring process, but I can re-apply in late October/November for the new announcement. They told me that anyone who hadn't completed the process by August 18th was dropped because they had enough qualified canidates.

Just FYI for anyone else in the same boat as me.

[SigFoo]

Anyone notice that the dashboard is down today?

**Update. I called the TSA. I was dropped from the hiring process, but I can re-apply in late October/November for the new announcement. They told me that anyone who hadn't completed the process by August 18th was dropped because they had enough qualified canidates.

Just FYI for anyone else in the same boat as me.

From your Signature line it says you didn't make it to the panel/ PTA/ SAC interview. Did you not get to complete those and that's why you were dropped or did you complete everything? Just trying to get a gauge - I cleared medical last Friday and I'm getting all antsy in the pantsy.

[POSr]

From your Signature line it says you didn't make it to the panel/ PTA/ SAC interview. Did you not get to complete those and that's why you were dropped or did you complete everything? Just trying to get a gauge - I cleared medical last Friday and I'm getting all antsy in the pantsy.

You're probably ok. I didn't get my COE until July, passed my credit check/criminal, but I never got invited to take the assesment battery.

I was told today, by that time, they already had enough qualified applicants and they didn't need anymore. There were posts up back around August that others were told the same thing...i.e. if the interview process wasn't completed by Mid August, you would not proceed any further.

Not a big deal to me. Gives me more time to get in shape!

[shaw77]

Anyone notice that the dashboard is down today?

**Update. I called the TSA. I was dropped from the hiring process, but I can re-apply in late October/November for the new announcement. They told me that anyone who hadn't completed the process by August 18th was dropped because they had enough qualified canidates.

Just FYI for anyone else in the same boat as me.

Not sure about that!! I called HR directly last week and I am still waiting for medical clearance. The HR person stated they are trying to get as many on board before the end of the fiscal year.

[JeromeMorrow]

Has anyone received an email copy of their final offer yet? I received the phone call last Tuesday but have not been told salary or anything. I am supposed to move 2,800 miles with 12 days notice and no salary offer? Anyone else have this problem?

Yes, I'm supposed to report next Monday the 28th and I have not received the email with instructions. I received the final call last week and was told to give notice, however I do not intend to until it’s on paper. Does anyone have the # of a POC at FAMS HR where I could find more details? Ie the location, so I could somehow move there within a week.

Also, what is everyone doing in regards to living arrangements in DC?

[shaw77]

I see that there are a lot of WFO people out there. If you are NYFO please PM me. I would like to start getting to know individuals. Thanks.

[brickster720]

Anyone notice that the dashboard is down today?

**Update. I called the TSA. I was dropped from the hiring process, but I can re-apply in late October/November for the new announcement. They told me that anyone who hadn't completed the process by August 18th was dropped because they had enough qualified canidates.

Just FYI for anyone else in the same boat as me.

Sorry to hear about your misfortunes POSr

It seems to be unavailable for me at the moment too.... I sure hope this isn't the end. I've been waiting to finish my external med specialists and have my last appt tomorrow! I finished everything else (they had mass med screenings on 8/25)

Perhaps it's a mixture of actually being down/removing people?

[aNewFam]

I got my call two weeks ago to start this Monday and I don't even know what my salary is going to be or what time to report or what to wear!

[echat12]

we are all in the same boat!

[shaw77]

Thanks to everyone about NYFO. I am still waiting to be medically cleared. Had my follow up appointments yesterday. I hope to get a final offer soon and be in NYC. Hope to meet everyone.

[POSr]

Sorry to hear about your misfortunes POSr

It seems to be unavailable for me at the moment too.... I sure hope this isn't the end. I've been waiting to finish my external med specialists and have my last appt tomorrow! I finished everything else (they had mass med screenings on 8/25)

Perhaps it's a mixture of actually being down/removing people?

I'm sure you're right. I think they're done with the dashboard for this announcement, and it won't be up until the next one is released.

It's no sweat for me really. I have job that I like and I'll apply for the next announcement and get into better shape until that happens. Disappointment is part of the game, and you can't let it get you down.

[ifineed2]

I got my call two weeks ago to start this Monday and I don't even know what my salary is going to be or what time to report or what to wear!

You'll wear a suit your first 1-30 days (depends on the office), but definitely wear one on Monday and take enough business casual clothes to get you through a week. You may not get your welcome packet until Friday...sucks, but it happens get use to it now. Best thing to do, try to get a phone number for the office you're going to so you can call and get directions (or have someone check your email if you're not able to) by the end of this week. That's all you have to worry about, take gym clothes in a gym bag in case you PT your first day, take pens and paper to write notes on and be ready to fill out a LOT of paperwork...

[Helo]

You'll wear a suit your first 1-30 days (depends on the office), but definitely wear one on Monday and take enough business casual clothes to get you through a week.

Sounds like a rookie prank. :p

I drove 900 miles yesterday to start the process. Left most of my stuff in storage in my home city and am now at my parents for the remainder of the week. Good thing I brought the suit with me just in case... Kinda nuts how we're all left out on a limb here.

I have to say that during the FBI process I knew EXACTLY what to expect, months in advance. What a difference, although I'm still happy to be on board. :)

[Helo]

HA! So as soon as I posted the above, I get the final offer e-mail! It's on!

[JeromeMorrow]

HA! So as soon as I posted the above, I get the final offer e-mail! It's on!

So you just now got the final offer email? Which FO are you starting at?

[echat12]

HA! So as soon as I posted the above, I get the final offer e-mail! It's on!

Still nothing here. Got my final call the same day as you. :(

[aNewFam]

just got mine today finally at 3:00pm, it went into my spam folder so be sure to check that too

[aNewFam]

I looked over my offer, just a little confused about the salary.
You have 1. base salary 2. base salary + locality 3. base salary + locality plus 25% of that total figure, right? I calculated my base salary with locality plus 25% of that and I came up with about $3000 more than what they say is my final offer. Am I missing something here?

[ACYV223]

I looked over my offer, just a little confused about the salary.
You have 1. base salary 2. base salary + locality 3. base salary + locality plus 25% of that total figure, right? I calculated my base salary with locality plus 25% of that and I came up with about $3000 more than what they say is my final offer. Am I missing something here?

The 25% Leap pay is off of your base salary only not base salary and locality pay.
So the calculation would be Base salary + (base salary x locality pay) + (base salary x Leap) = your final salary

[aNewFam]

The 25% Leap pay is off of your base salary only not base salary and locality pay.
So the calculation would be Base salary + (base salary x locality pay) + (base salary x Leap) = your final salary

Ok, got it, thanks!

[manstown]

Sounds like a rookie prank. :p

I drove 900 miles yesterday to start the process. Left most of my stuff in storage in my home city and am now at my parents for the remainder of the week. Good thing I brought the suit with me just in case... Kinda nuts how we're all left out on a limb here.

I have to say that during the FBI process I knew EXACTLY what to expect, months in advance. What a difference, although I'm still happy to be on board. :)

Get use to it! That's what you'll be experiencing all the time with FAMS.

[ifineed2]

Sounds like a rookie prank. :p

I drove 900 miles yesterday to start the process. Left most of my stuff in storage in my home city and am now at my parents for the remainder of the week. Good thing I brought the suit with me just in case... Kinda nuts how we're all left out on a limb here.

I have to say that during the FBI process I knew EXACTLY what to expect, months in advance. What a difference, although I'm still happy to be on board. :)

There's no rookie prank in what I said, you may dress business casual everyday while you're at your FO, or you might be lucky enough they'll let you wear jeans and a polo...all depends on the FO. Mine was suit days 1 and 2, then business casual everyday for that first month.

[SigFoo]

So does it look like anyone that hasn't gotten a final offer so far is out of the running? Dashboard is still down and, as far as I know, I cleared medical and was just waiting for that. I hope the fact that having to see a couple of specialists isn't what ultimately did me in.

[dtown101]

i heard that a LARGE number of new hires will be starting this coming monday...

im in the nations capitol

[Helo]

edit. I don't want to throw out a specific number, but yes dtown... a lot. :)

[ThanAgain]

does anyone know anyone that is NOT reporting to NYFO or WFO?

[champs9399]

Anybody still waiting on an offer letter/email from HR? Got a phone call yesterday with reporting instructions, but still no salary information or anything from HR.

[Blind Justice]

I'm still waiting for my "official" rejection letter....

[SigFoo]

Still waiting for final offer (hopefully).

[runeire]

Anybody still waiting on an offer letter/email from HR? Got a phone call yesterday with reporting instructions, but still no salary information or anything from HR.

I know it has been said before, but have you checked you're spam folder? It seems odd that you didn't get both in the same day...

[shaw77]

I have been on this forum a couple of times and hear alot of talk about dashboard. What is it and were is the link to log in? The only updates I have gotten are logging into USAJOBS and viewing my applications; that is where I have gotten my status updates.

[Helo]

Question: On one of the attachments it states that we need black sole shoes. Is this referring to combat type boots or literally shoes that have black soles? :D Thanks.


I have been on this forum a couple of times and hear alot of talk about dashboard. What is it and were is the link to log in? The only updates I have gotten are logging into USAJOBS and viewing my applications; that is where I have gotten my status updates.

Just google "tsa dashboard" and it'll be the first link; however, the dashboard is currently down (and has been for a few days).

[PYTLEO]

Hey,

You just need black boots that you will wear everyday and running shoes for PT.

[apple1610]

Hey, if anyone else is in DC already, message me.

[Tmack82]

Anyone have any ideas on how often they post announcements? My last one got thrown out because they didn't get a form (even though I sent them all)... so I want to give it another go.

[MPDCjock]

I'm waiting too. I asked the same question about a month ago and I was told look for one in the end or the beginning of next year.

Unlike a lot of posters, I really hope that if I get hired I'll be offered the NYFO.

[Nino06]

Anyone have any ideas on how often they post announcements? My last one got thrown out because they didn't get a form (even though I sent them all)... so I want to give it another go.

I was told by the TSA HR department, to look for an announcement in late Fall.

[echat12]

Good luck to everyone starting their new job tomorrow! It's very exciting. Hope to meet everybody in WFO or NM!

[POSr]

I was told by the TSA HR department, to look for an announcement in late Fall.

They told me late October early November.

[MPDCjock]

^^^ That's good news!

[SigFoo]

Anyone hear anything? I can't even get any emails/ phone calls returned by HR.

[WVU Brubbz]

I am in the same situation. I haven't tried to contact HR since early last week, but I did not receive a response when I left a message.

[cduke1]

Tomm. will be 3 weeks since I finished all my processing and I recieved an email last week saying I was medically cleared. How long does it usually take to get the final offer? Tired of waiting. And I know more guys on here are in the same boat. Just really anxious.

And HR must have got some new people. They dont want to return calls now.

[dtown101]

Tomm. will be 3 weeks since I finished all my processing and I recieved an email last week saying I was medically cleared. How long does it usually take to get the final offer? Tired of waiting. And I know more guys on here are in the same boat. Just really anxious.

And HR must have got some new people. They dont want to return calls now.

Im gonna say there probably wont be anymore calls going out any time soon...couple FO have a butt load of new hires in there office that just started yesterday....WFO has enough to fill two classes alone...and NYC has enough for one class...sorry for the bad info guys and gals....

[shaw77]

Im gonna say there probably wont be anymore calls going out any time soon...couple FO have a butt load of new hires in there office that just started yesterday....WFO has enough to fill two classes alone...and NYC has enough for one class...sorry for the bad info guys and gals....

If thats the case they can hire me for another FO.

[brickster720]

Im gonna say there probably wont be anymore calls going out any time soon...couple FO have a butt load of new hires in there office that just started yesterday....WFO has enough to fill two classes alone...and NYC has enough for one class...sorry for the bad info guys and gals....

I figured... I was in the same boat as a lot of the people that just started this week, but got held up by a few external medical references... hopefully we can be first up on the next list of calls that do go out

I'm just trying to focus on the positive and use this extra time to get in better shape

dtown, is it just speculation or any reliable source?

[Bearcat357]

dtown, is it just speculation or any reliable source?

As mentioned in prior posts....Dtown is a active FAM.....

[Blind Justice]

New budget comes out tomorrow, right?

Any advice for people who are still showing as referred, and have not been given a rejection notice?

[NEGALEO]

Blind Justice, I am in the same boat as you. I completed the process up to the pt / panel interview/ and drug test. I did mine back in march 09. I have not heard anything from the ATL FO.

[manstown]

New budget comes out tomorrow, right?

Any advice for people who are still showing as referred, and have not been given a rejection notice?

Not necessarily. The new budget date starts tomorrow. Agencies will be under a continuing resolution. The budget money is usually released around January at some point.

[MPDCjock]

Hopefully, that means they will make an announcement for an application process.

[dtown101]

As mentioned in prior posts....Dtown is a active FAM.....

yes I saw the 70 with my own eyes and heard nyc had a large amount as well....if a new announcement comes out in the next couple months I would tell everyone who has completed almost everything to put in just in case they dont go off the old one like they used to do in the past....

[brickster720]

that's frustrating considering i'm done with everything... would have been one of the 70 if I didn't have to get outside medical consults

oh well, i guess just more time to get in better shape

thanks for the heads up dtown

[POSr]

So, until the next announcement is posted, all of us applicant rejects (ha ha) who are going to stick with it till the next announcent are in tandum until then.

So, my idea is that we keep each other updated on our physical conditioning and PFT stats. The next announcement is right around the corner but, I am thinking we've got some time to improve physically. However, I'm not really looking forward to doing my 1.5 run in the freezing cold.

[MPDCjock]

Where are the power tests usually held?

[williamske]

I am in the still "referred for selection" boat. I was under the understanding that the only time you had to go through the entire application process again was when you received a rejection letter/email. I called HR and I have not been removed from the process. When the new announcement comes out I will reapply, and then hopefully they will see that some of us have already gone far through the process. I would think that they would not want to waste money re-interviewing/retesting those of us who have been through the entire process this summer. But I am probably wrong lol.

Still hoping.

[gsxridr2000]

Recently within the last week or two, has anyone been cleared from medical? It appears that my follow on medical has been pending since the middle of September.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

WOW! It seems all the new hires allways get hired on to the NY and DC office. So the question is what the heck happened to all the FAMs they had? At my office we have only gotten about 10 new hires in the last few years. I take it that may be a sign that new FAMs only stay a few years and then move on to better jobs.

[Blind Justice]

I'll sign a length of stay contract if it'll get me hired any quicker... :D

[MPDCjock]

Do new hires get a choice of DCFO or NYFO?

[Blind Justice]

Like all Govt. positions, you go where they send you...

[dtown101]

I'll sign a length of stay contract if it'll get me hired any quicker... :D

when you are at the FO they will make you sign a contract that you have to stay in the FO for at least 3 years...

[jb5722]

when you are at the FO they will make you sign a contract that you have to stay in the FO for at least 3 years...

that is incorrect. your not signing a contract that you will agree to stay, you just can't transfer to another FO until you've had three years (of good conduct) on the job.

[manstown]

that is incorrect. your not signing a contract that you will agree to stay, you just can't transfer to another FO until you've had three years (of good conduct) on the job.

Isn't that what he said? I don;t think that he said you sign a contract saying that you'll stay in the FAMS for 3 years. He said a contract that you'll stay in the FO for 3 years. Same difference.

[airisfine]

Rumor has it all new hires are going to D.C. or N.Y Reason being fams are getting ****ed that new hires are going to fo's they have been waiting years to get to. Now, fo's that are not dc or ny are going to be filled by transfers

[Blind Justice]

Thats how it outta be anyways...

[MPDCjock]

Wow! That's great news for me. The only way I'd take the job is if I were assigned to NYFO so if I get hired at least I'll have a 50/50 shot at getting NY.

Thanks for sharing airisfine!

[gsxridr2000]

Is there anyone that has an upcoming EOD?

[dtown101]

that is incorrect. your not signing a contract that you will agree to stay, you just can't transfer to another FO until you've had three years (of good conduct) on the job.

ummm....never said you were signing a contract that you had to stay with fams for 3 years...just in the FO ....before you say im incorrect read what Ive put down....

[Bearcat357]

ummm....never said you were signing a contract that you had to stay with fams for 3 years...just in the FO ....before you say im incorrect read what Ive put down....

Newbie's not reading properly..... :rolleyes:

[INTHEAIRCOP]

For current FAMs.

Is it me or does it seems like the FAM service just hands out suspensions for every little thing you do wrong here? Just about all the guys I know have had a day on the beach with no pay or more. Oh yea! I have had days off with no pay also. Yes I did a no no but days off!, come on. When I was on the road I did the same thing and I just got a speech but here I just about had my balls ripped off!



What is the deal? It seems since we never make arrests and the upper staff are so bored that they like to make it hard for us flying guys. But what do I know; I just fly for a living.

[NightFAMer]

Must be a NY FAM...theres no rythme or reason why people get time for petty stuff....maybe things will change with the new boss..fyi..if you think the 3 year waiting period means you only need to wait three years to transfer do not count on it.....guys are waiting to go to hard to fill offices for over 4 and with all the new hires that just means a longer wait...good luck.
For current FAMs.

Is it me or does it seems like the FAM service just hands out suspensions for every little thing you do wrong here? Just about all the guys I know have had a day on the beach with no pay or more. Oh yea! I have had days off with no pay also. Yes I did a no no but days off!, come on. When I was on the road I did the same thing and I just got a speech but here I just about had my balls ripped off!



What is the deal? It seems since we never make arrests and the upper staff are so bored that they like to make it hard for us flying guys. But what do I know; I just fly for a living.

[manstown]

For current FAMs.

Is it me or does it seems like the FAM service just hands out suspensions for every little thing you do wrong here? Just about all the guys I know have had a day on the beach with no pay or more. Oh yea! I have had days off with no pay also. Yes I did a no no but days off!, come on. When I was on the road I did the same thing and I just got a speech but here I just about had my balls ripped off!



What is the deal? It seems since we never make arrests and the upper staff are so bored that they like to make it hard for us flying guys. But what do I know; I just fly for a living.


Key word in your statement...."bored". That and the fact that they don't let adults be adults. Oh and lets not even get into the micromanaging. I sometimes thought that they believed their jobs were to write people up. It always amazed me how difficult they made their job. If they would have just left people alone, they could have closed the doors to their offices and slept for most of the day. Couldn't figure out which was more worthless, the management or the PDA's. At least you could turn the PDA's off.

[BPD Once]

You could turn the old PDA's off. Now that we have advanced our devices some of these ***** clowns expect replies immediately. I'm waiting for the first write up for someone not answering their phone when they are lets say at the beach for vacation and on a jet ski for a few hours. I caught that one myself which has left me disillusioned with the joint and looking at the possibility of other things.

[ThanAgain]

why all the negativity in here? but to add to that negativity.. HR said all 2009 air marshal selection had been made.. So it looks like for everyone still on "referred selection" or waiting for Final Offer.. we might be out from the running. I am not 100%, but this is the direction it seems to be going

[manstown]

You could turn the old PDA's off. Now that we have advanced our devices some of these ***** clowns expect replies immediately. I'm waiting for the first write up for someone not answering their phone when they are lets say at the beach for vacation and on a jet ski for a few hours. I caught that one myself which has left me disillusioned with the joint and looking at the possibility of other things.

You think that's bad?! I actually caught **** for not answering my PDA while my wife was in labor and I was in the delivery room with her. The phone wasn't on me, but when I did get home two days later the message and email were on there. That ended when I sent an email to the SAC and cc'd the knucklehead ATSAC trying to give me a hard time.

[gsxridr2000]

ThanAgain: why all the negativity in here? but to add to that negativity.. HR said all 2009 air marshal selection had been made.. So it looks like for everyone still on "referred selection" or waiting for Final Offer.. we might be out from the running. I am not 100%, but this is the direction it seems to be going.

Did you speak with TSA HR? Or FAM HR?

[danthony]

I actually just got a call from FAMS and I was referred for selection and finished everything two weeks ago.

[SigFoo]

I actually just got a call from FAMS and I was referred for selection and finished everything two weeks ago.

So you got a final offer today???

[danthony]

Don't know yet. Have to call them back. Stand by

[gsxridr2000]

danthony
Did you receive an EOD?

[danthony]

gotta wait till I go to lunch to call them back. It very well may be for another medical followup but at least they are still doing stuff with those of us that got referred for selection.

[Blind Justice]

Any update?

[danthony]

Phone tag...

[INTHEAIRCOP]

You think that's bad?! I actually caught **** for not answering my PDA while my wife was in labor and I was in the delivery room with her. The phone wasn't on me, but when I did get home two days later the message and email were on there. That ended when I sent an email to the SAC and cc'd the knucklehead ATSAC trying to give me a hard time.

I wonder if they can track us with these new phones? I noticed the phone has a GPS on it but I can not use the feature.

Also would a FAM on suspension have to answer the phone? I bet they would try and write the FAM up anyways.

[airisfine]

170 more hires between New York and DC this fiscal year. Taking apps again this NOV If you are still in the pipeline it is undecided what you have to redo but I know you wont have to retake the test but everything else is still up in the air.

[MPDCjock]

What kind is on the written exam? What skills do I need to brush up on? Is it scored or pass/fail?

[jb5722]

ummm....never said you were signing a contract that you had to stay with fams for 3 years...just in the FO ....before you say im incorrect read what Ive put down....

my mistake, i misunderstood what you wrote, but to be precise,

when you are at the FO they will make you sign a contract that you have to stay in the FO for at least 3 years...

[manstown]

Again....What is wrong with what he wrote? They do make you sign a contract saying you understand that you will be at the FO for at least 3 years.

[brickster720]

Phone tag...

any result?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Do not come here! Only bad things will come if you come here. The real bad news is that we should be on the GS pay scale by the end of the year. So for all the new hires that come on after it becomes law will never get to the pay the current I band FAMs are at now. The rumor is that they will make the journeymen level for us at GS13. But I have a feeling they will make at GS12. The reason I think this is if they make us I bands GS 13 then I will get a ten grand pay raise. Just my 2 cents on that. But as far as I know congress votes this week on making all of TSA GS employees. About dawn time! I have not had a raise since I made I band back in 2004.