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Radar12
08-20-2009, 02:52 PM
Will someone please call me so I know my phone works!! Is the call from an 866#?
Will someone please call me so I know my phone works!! Is the call from an 866#?
Mine was from a 703 area code.
Fml............
LOL...is that bad or good?
usmc00
08-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Have you considered applying with ICE or the Border Patrol? ICE is a great gig and will keep you home to see your kid(s) grow up. It also offers much better career potential and the agency is run much better. If I wasn't single without kids, ICE would've been my first choice.
I was just looking for ICE positions that are available. You can apply at usajobs also right? thanks for the info. My time will come soon!
usmc00
08-20-2009, 03:06 PM
I hate to bring up someone else's misfortune, but maybe this is a good sign for the rest of us. If his dashboard was updated on the 18th, and he recieved a red "X", maybe the rest of us who are still green means we got selected and just havent been contacted yet.
And sorry USMC, as a fellow vet I know how frustrating this process is especially when everyone always tells you that your vet points will help you alot. And the truth is alot of times they dont.
I agree that if you don't have the ugly red X yet, you probably will be contacted. Good luck to all of you!
williamske
08-20-2009, 03:17 PM
LOL...is that bad or good?
I hate waiting
Spammail.dj
08-20-2009, 03:17 PM
Sing it brother, sing it !!!
Where in Cali are ya?
Orange County Cali...
Still GREEN and in the AIR!
I hate waiting
In general? Or just for a job offer?
formerfed
08-20-2009, 03:36 PM
The wait continues even after you complete all the steps.
williamske
08-20-2009, 03:39 PM
In general? Or just for a job offer?
In general... I have a good job....I just want a better one with more of a purpose for my country.
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 03:46 PM
Orange County Cali...
Still GREEN and in the AIR!
8th & Montana myself...
DoubleAgent
08-20-2009, 03:53 PM
The wait continues even after you complete all the steps.
Are they waiting for the BI to be adjudicated before slotting you in for a class date? Have you spoken to your local FO?
formerfed
08-20-2009, 04:14 PM
Are they waiting for the BI to be adjudicated before slotting you in for a class date? Have you spoken to your local FO?
Background investigations are not initiated until you are hired. I have cleared all the steps and am waiting for a class date. Local FO's have nothing to do with the final offer, it originates from HR.
winglet
08-20-2009, 04:20 PM
Background investigations are not initiated until you are hired. I have cleared all the steps and am waiting for a class date. Local FO's have nothing to do with the final offer, it originates from HR.
So the FO's do not have an option of who gets placed there? Local FO's are not permitted to request that a candidate receive an offer from them if they have openings?
bluecollar$
08-20-2009, 04:27 PM
I've been through the ringer twice with the whole process, got the " ref. for selection" a week ago and the wait began again..
Got the Call today!, but for another Fed law enforcement agency>>> Headed for fletc next month.
Good luck to all, and remember "don't put all your eggs in one basket" thats what the SAC told me last year at my interview.Its better to wait for 2 or 3 calls then one....
DoubleAgent
08-20-2009, 04:30 PM
Background investigations are not initiated until you are hired. I have cleared all the steps and am waiting for a class date. Local FO's have nothing to do with the final offer, it originates from HR.
Do you know for sure that they're nothing holding you up such as Medical follow ups? Seems odd to have cleared all the steps and not be assigned a class date. Even though you say the local FO has nothing to do with the final offer, I'm sure that they can find out exactly what the hold up is. How long have you been waiting?
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 04:32 PM
Whos all still waiting, other than myself, Helo & spam?
maybe we'll be the LA class tomorrow...
hk7777
08-20-2009, 04:38 PM
I'm waiting still......
DoubleAgent
08-20-2009, 04:41 PM
Waiting on NWK
williamske
08-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Waiting...............
Bearcat357
08-20-2009, 04:43 PM
Got the Call today!, but for another Fed law enforcement agency>>> Headed for fletc next month.
Congrats. If you were chosen for DC, you are going to have a blast with your new agency. Those guys rock out here once you get a some time on.... I've got a buddy that plays "Highway Patrolman" on GW Parkway and is always hauling in dope, wanted felons, and getting some good DUIs.....
In the scope of thing...you are much better off with them than the FAMs....
Bearcat357
08-20-2009, 04:44 PM
So the FO's do not have an option of who gets placed there? Local FO's are not permitted to request that a candidate receive an offer from them if they have openings?
FO recommends for hire/not hire.......HQ does final hire......;)
seanjohn
08-20-2009, 04:47 PM
Whos all still waiting, other than myself, Helo & spam?
maybe we'll be the LA class tomorrow...
I am also still waiting. Hoping the call comes tomorrow as I am under the impression that is a last chance!
cduke1
08-20-2009, 04:48 PM
Im still waiting........
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 04:54 PM
Still waiting for a call...
Myself
Spammail
HK777
DoubleAgent
Williamske
Seanjohn
Cduke
I hope our call comes tomorrow and comes early.
I received a call, Blind. Now I'm in the "hurry up" mode of the "hurry up and wait" mantra. Lots of paperwork and trying to get a hold of the local federal medical place to schedule an appointment.
Keep your heads up, looks like no calls have gone out for Newark, or LA (if avail).
Cman21
08-20-2009, 04:58 PM
Waiting for Newark.
williamske
08-20-2009, 05:00 PM
I think that calls will continue after this week but that's just my opinion.
Definitly don't think newark calls went out yet.
formerfed
08-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Do you know for sure that they're nothing holding you up such as Medical follow ups? Seems odd to have cleared all the steps and not be assigned a class date. Even though you say the local FO has nothing to do with the final offer, I'm sure that they can find out exactly what the hold up is. How long have you been waiting?
I do know for sure as I have spoken to medical and security and I have cleared both.
formerfed
08-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Not to burst anybody's bubble but just because you clear all the steps does not mean you will get an immediate final offer with a class date, the waiting continues.
Bearcat357
08-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Some of you guys are going to die early worrying so much....
If they call they call.... That's why you never put all you eggs in one basket...
Just sayin.....
formerfed
08-20-2009, 05:10 PM
I'm not sweating it.
dtown101
08-20-2009, 05:11 PM
it took me 2 years to get a call....so for all of yall who are waiting just take a chill and when its your time they will call....
iamjay27
08-20-2009, 05:55 PM
Whos all still waiting, other than myself, Helo & spam?
maybe we'll be the LA class tomorrow...
Waiting for Newark too.....
seanjohn
08-21-2009, 07:40 AM
Another day another wait... Good luck to all of you who received calls letting you know you were still in the game yesterday. Now if the rest of us can just be so lucky. Have great Friday!
hiltonheadgolf
08-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Sorry to inform some of you, but Newark closed on Wednesday afternoon.
Blind Justice
08-21-2009, 07:47 AM
Sorry to inform some of you, but Newark closed on Wednesday afternoon.
Final day.... LA bound?
Cman21
08-21-2009, 07:50 AM
Sorry to inform some of you, but Newark closed on Wednesday afternoon.
Where did you receive this information from?
hiltonheadgolf
08-21-2009, 07:53 AM
Where did you receive this information from?
Its my FO
RELAX !!! I'm totally just BS'ing you. Need to break up the monotony in here a little before some of you get ulcers !!!!!!
Your calls will come.
formerfed
08-21-2009, 08:48 AM
Wow not cool move for all the worry warts. Dude you might get a blanket party at fletc "who ordered the code red". HAHAHAHAH
haha
-Man, getting the medical set up is crazy. I have to wait on the Dr to return about 10 days into September. I wanted to complete this ASAP!
WVU Brubbz
08-21-2009, 09:10 AM
I have my medical on Monday. Just lucky I am near my FO.
Has anyone that received a CO this week gotten the email to start the e-qip?
Set up medical for Tuesday :)
I have my medical on Monday. Just lucky I am near my FO.
Im right next to my FO, too. There are THREE federal buildings around and the first one doesn't do medicals for FAMS, the second one wont return my calls and the third one (farthest away of course) has me going in three separate times over the course of 2 weeks. what? :confused:
formerfed
08-21-2009, 09:31 AM
haha
-Man, getting the medical set up is crazy. I have to wait on the Dr to return about 10 days into September. I wanted to complete this ASAP!
I had to wait almost 30 days for the doctor to return also.
WVU Brubbz
08-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Has anyone that received a CO this week gotten the email to start the e-qip?
Set up medical for Tuesday :)
No I have not received the e-mail yet.
Not to burst anybody's bubble but just because you clear all the steps does not mean you will get an immediate final offer with a class date, the waiting continues.
He's exactly right... Listen to this guy... Seriously...
Wow not cool move for all the worry warts. Dude you might get a blanket party at fletc "who ordered the code red". HAHAHAHAH
40 pillow cases with 40 bars of soap coming his way...
ACYV223
08-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Hey guys,
I have been reading the forum for a couple weeks now, and I just got validated. First, I want to congratulate all the people who are moving on in the process. As for me I am keepingmy fingers crossed that I will get a call sometime soon. I did my Panel/PFT/SAC interview in mid July. I do not have a red X or an e-mail stating I was out, so I am staying hopeful. But, as every hour passes I think I need to join the support group. Good luck to everyone still waiting.
cduke1
08-21-2009, 10:08 AM
Hey guys,
I think as long as we are still green on dashboard and havent recieved an email stating we are out of the running, I think we are in good shape. And as stated before, it could be up to 2 weeks for everyone to get a phone call or email.
Or im just trying to make myself feel better!
You're absolutely right Cduke. Hang in there, you'll get called.
Blind Justice
08-21-2009, 10:32 AM
Has anybodys dashboard changed yet, for better or worse? Or are we all still showing a plane over referred?
Mine just updated this morning. It had a plane over "referred" forever. I received the call yesterday and it is updated and now has the plane over medical.
seanjohn
08-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Has anybodys dashboard changed yet, for better or worse? Or are we all still showing a plane over referred?
still flying over referred for selection!
ACYV223
08-21-2009, 10:39 AM
For anyone who asked the question about BIs before, I did not see anyone explain it completely. So in this post I will try to do that for people who are still wondering. Some people might ask, so the reason I think I have an understanding of the process is because one of my collateral duties is as the Local Security Officer for my FO (not TSA, but a different sub-agency), and I had to attenda training on Personnel security issues (which includes the BI). Ok as for the steps:
1. Once agency sends a conditional offer, they will coordinate with eQip to grant you access to the website, they will call or e-mail you to tell you to start the eQip BI process (you have a limited time to access the website, so when you get notification I think it is 3 days or 72 hours, but they should mention that in the e-mail).
2. Fill in the SF86 using eQip (some questions you will have to go back ten years, and others 7 years) * a tip- if you have done an sf86 before go get your old one and use that info on you new one it will save you time.
3. Once SF86 is complete, agency's personnel security division will receive your SF86. They will begin the first of 2 BIs. This first BI is only a "suitability background investigation" this is to make sure you are worth the money to send you to offer you a job and send you to training. This BI can be completed in a day or two, but since these investigators have to schedule many interviews with the people you know it is difficult to schedule everything on the same day so it often times take about 2 weeks to a month to complete the process.
4. Once initial BI complete and positively adjudicated, the angency can feel free to make you a final offer. At this time they will initiate the background investigation for your TS clearance. This can take anywhere from 6 months to 18 months on average. So in the meantime you receive an "interim" TS clearance, which means your TS clearance is in process they are giving you the job under the pretense that you will pass the BI and if you do not pass the BI or you lie about something on the SF86 you will first get grilled then fired.
5. You will receive notification from personnel security division of your successful adjudication on BI.
Now I do not consider myself an expert, but I am just passing on the knowledge that I have. If anyone has a different idea on BIs or wants to add something I forgot please do so. I hope this helped anyone still worried how the process goes.
iamjay27
08-21-2009, 11:24 AM
Alright, I got the call today. I am going to the DC office. Not what I wanted, but hey at least I am moving in the right direction! Good luck to everyone else still waiting. Plan is still showing referred for selection.
ACYV223
08-21-2009, 11:30 AM
got a call for DC!
Today? Congrats iamjay27! I was hoping for DC, but I thought it was done yesterday. At this point I will take any location!
seanjohn
08-21-2009, 11:31 AM
got a call for DC!
congrats....
WVU Brubbz
08-21-2009, 11:35 AM
:Dgot a call for DC!
Congrads
dshoes60031
08-21-2009, 11:36 AM
Congrats Bro.. I want Chicago but would rather have DC or LA over Newark because of the cost of living..
Mine just updated this morning. It had a plane over "referred" forever. I received the call yesterday and it is updated and now has the plane over medical.
Mine changed too, I love those little green check marks.
hiltonheadgolf
08-21-2009, 11:50 AM
40 pillow cases with 40 bars of soap coming his way...
FLETC has been over for 2 years, so no pillow cases coming this way.
Good Luck to those of you still in the hunt ! The wait is worth it when it is over.
danthony
08-21-2009, 12:03 PM
My plane has flown to the medical block now I have to start my paperwork up!
iamjay27
08-21-2009, 12:03 PM
Thanks guys!
I went back in the thread and here's the run down of who has received a call and where they are potentially headed:
NY
winglet (Im assuming as she never said, but it came on day 1 of calls)
Philly0331
DPO
DC
Myself
Brickster720
WVU Brubbz
danthony
champs9399
iamjay27
Everyone else, keep your heads up. The call will come!
Blind Justice
08-21-2009, 12:07 PM
I just called HR. I was told that calls will not be completed by the end of business today.... Calls will continue until at least mid-week, with a rejection email being sent out next friday to those who didnt make it...
Dont give up faith quite yet!
williamske
08-21-2009, 12:24 PM
patience is a virtue
hiltonheadgolf
08-21-2009, 12:40 PM
As long as newark calls aren't going out yet I'm not gonna panic lol
You've made it this far, you'll be fine. Try and do something that requires more concentration so you have to focus on that and not the call.
Good Luck !
winglet
08-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Helo - yes I'm NY.
Question to you guys - are these the offices we are definitely headed to (if, of course, we receive a final offer)? Or could these potentially change for any reason?
My plane did move today. Now flying over the medical. Love those green checks.
Good luck guys!!!
Helo - yes I'm NY.
Question to you guys - are these the offices we are definitely headed to (if, of course, we receive a final offer)? Or could these potentially change for any reason?
My plane did move today. Now flying over the medical. Love those green checks.
Good luck guys!!!
I asked the guy that called me and he said that I would definitely be going to NYC, so I guess I'll see you there :D
FLETC has been over for 2 years, so no pillow cases coming this way.
Good Luck to those of you still in the hunt ! The wait is worth it when it is over.
We'll find you... ha ha ha. All in good fun. Or is it...
Blind Justice
08-21-2009, 01:25 PM
You've made it this far, you'll be fine. Try and do something that requires more concentration so you have to focus on that and not the call.
Good Luck !
Yeah... I just went through taser training.... took the 5 second ride. OUCH!:eek:
But I havent thought about the call since. LOL
iamjay27
08-21-2009, 01:27 PM
Helo - yes I'm NY.
Question to you guys - are these the offices we are definitely headed to (if, of course, we receive a final offer)? Or could these potentially change for any reason?
My plane did move today. Now flying over the medical. Love those green checks.
Good luck guys!!!
No, you can't change your FO. When the call came in today I asked the guy if I could change my FO to Newark and he said no, but hey DC isn't so bad!
For all of you guys that's going to DC, can't wait to meet up with all of you!
Yeah... I just went through taser training.... took the 5 second ride. OUCH!:eek:
But I havent thought about the call since. LOL
Yea, I'd drink a can of OC before getting tasered for the full 5 seconds.
Any fun "loss of bowel control" stories to share?
manstown
08-21-2009, 01:40 PM
For anyone who asked the question about BIs before, I did not see anyone explain it completely. So in this post I will try to do that for people who are still wondering. Some people might ask, so the reason I think I have an understanding of the process is because one of my collateral duties is as the Local Security Officer for my FO (not TSA, but a different sub-agency), and I had to attenda training on Personnel security issues (which includes the BI). Ok as for the steps:
1. Once agency sends a conditional offer, they will coordinate with eQip to grant you access to the website, they will call or e-mail you to tell you to start the eQip BI process (you have a limited time to access the website, so when you get notification I think it is 3 days or 72 hours, but they should mention that in the e-mail).
2. Fill in the SF86 using eQip (some questions you will have to go back ten years, and others 7 years) * a tip- if you have done an sf86 before go get your old one and use that info on you new one it will save you time.
3. Once SF86 is complete, agency's personnel security division will receive your SF86. They will begin the first of 2 BIs. This first BI is only a "suitability background investigation" this is to make sure you are worth the money to send you to offer you a job and send you to training. This BI can be completed in a day or two, but since these investigators have to schedule many interviews with the people you know it is difficult to schedule everything on the same day so it often times take about 2 weeks to a month to complete the process.
4. Once initial BI complete and positively adjudicated, the angency can feel free to make you a final offer. At this time they will initiate the background investigation for your TS clearance. This can take anywhere from 6 months to 18 months on average. So in the meantime you receive an "interim" TS clearance, which means your TS clearance is in process they are giving you the job under the pretense that you will pass the BI and if you do not pass the BI or you lie about something on the SF86 you will first get grilled then fired.
5. You will receive notification from personnel security division of your successful adjudication on BI.
Now I do not consider myself an expert, but I am just passing on the knowledge that I have. If anyone has a different idea on BIs or wants to add something I forgot please do so. I hope this helped anyone still worried how the process goes.
Hit the nail on the head with that explanation.
formerfed
08-21-2009, 01:56 PM
Use this time while your waiting to work on your weak areas that were highlighted when you took your PFT. Fletc is easy if you show up prepared.
Fedman 111
08-21-2009, 03:40 PM
Got the call for DC I'll see some of you guys on Tuesday. All of you guys still waiting your call will come.
formerfed
08-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Got the call for DC I'll see some of you guys on Tuesday. All of you guys still waiting your call will come.
You got the final offer?
FAMSapplicant
08-21-2009, 03:59 PM
Hello all. Been reading for some time now, but just joined the 'support group' -hehe
Congrats to all that have been moving forward!
My own situation is that I did the Panel/ASAC interview on 8/10, PT on 8/14, and have been sitting over Referred since the 18th.
I chose DC (and live close by), am a white male in mid-thirties, 6 years USMC (no points, though), and averaged out to 'Fair' on the PT test. I think my interviews went well enough, but without LE experience or vet points, I'm worried that I'm simply not qualified enough.
Oh- I WAS asked by someone to confirm if I had a degree or not. (I don't yet- I'm equivalent to a 'senior')
cduke1
08-21-2009, 04:03 PM
Has anyones green plane changed to a red "X" since tuesday?
formerfed
08-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Has anyones green plane changed to a red "X" since tuesday?
Just green check marks here.
Just a word to the people moving on to the medical...
You better make sure your UNCORRECTED vision in BOTH eyes is not worse than 20/100 or you WILL get booted.
Mine was 20/200 before I got LASIK. If you're considering getting LASIK, it is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. It might be expensive and a grueling 30 minute procedure to go though, but the results are PHENOMINAL!!
ThanAgain
08-21-2009, 04:14 PM
Just a word to the people moving on to the medical...
You better make sure your UNCORRECTED vision in BOTH eyes is not worse than 20/100 or you WILL get booted.
Mine was 20/200 before I got LASIK. If you're considering getting LASIK, it is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. It might be expensive and a grueling 30 minute procedure to go though, but the results are PHENOMINAL!!
I didn't know there was an uncorrected vision requirement. Is there a medical guideline somewhere?
formerfed
08-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Just a word to the people moving on to the medical...
You better make sure your UNCORRECTED vision in BOTH eyes is not worse than 20/100 or you WILL get booted.
Mine was 20/200 before I got LASIK. If you're considering getting LASIK, it is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. It might be expensive and a grueling 30 minute procedure to go though, but the results are PHENOMINAL!!
My crystal ball predicts this causes a stir.
"...uncorrected distant visual acuity worse than 20/100 is either eye separately may not be medically certified..."
I'm looking for the document now so I can cite it. But, I know it's under the medical requirements for visial acuity.
My crystal ball predicts this causes a stir.
haha
I'm also thinking about contacting my primary care doctor and getting the gauntlet of immunizations done. (or will the G do this for you?) Thoughts?
formerfed
08-21-2009, 04:27 PM
haha
I'm also thinking about contacting my primary care doctor and getting the gauntlet of immunizations done. (or will the G do this for you?) Thoughts?
Lucky for me my uncle sam kept up on all my immunizations and gave me a few extra special ones. Just bring your shot records to your med eval.
williamske
08-21-2009, 04:36 PM
"...uncorrected distant visual acuity worse than 20/100 is either eye separately may not be medically certified..."
I'm looking for the document now so I can cite it. But, I know it's under the medical requirements for visial acuity.
This requirement is usually pointed out in the job announcement and it was not cited originally. It is however a requirement for USSS. . . And listed as a requirement in their announcement.
I could be wrong. But I specifically looked for this before applying.
cuyler2281
08-21-2009, 04:41 PM
Winglet and DPO I'll see you guys in NYC!! I got my call last Friday and going in for my medical the 28th.
brickster720
08-21-2009, 04:42 PM
anyone know how the PFT works at fletc? is everything timed like it was during the interview portion?
This requirement is usually pointed out in the job announcement and it was not cited originally. It is however a requiredment for USSS. . . And listed as a requirement in their announcement.
I could be wrong. But I specifically looked for this before applying.
I can understand your point, but experience has taught us that we're given notice of the "not cited originally" after the fact. I'm just trying to let people know.
seanjohn
08-21-2009, 04:45 PM
So... who thinks that not getting a call by the E.O.B. today means that you were not selected?
Of those who got calls this week or last to move forward how many of you had both LE experience and a degree?
So... who thinks that not getting a call by the E.O.B. today means that you were not selected?
Of those who got calls this week or last to move forward how many of you had both LE experience and a degree?
As pointed out earlier in this thread, calls will continue to go out next week. I have a degree and LE experience fwiw.
williamske
08-21-2009, 04:50 PM
can a current fam verify the vision requirement?
champs9399
08-21-2009, 04:54 PM
I have a degree and 7 years LEO experience. Was selected for DC yesterday.
formerfed
08-21-2009, 05:05 PM
Military, LE, Fed LE, and Degree.
dshoes60031
08-21-2009, 05:06 PM
Are most of you guys that are receiving calls already in Law Enforcement or in the Military or have Military experience. Are there any that have received a call that have no previous experience and are just college grads looking to get into the FEDS? Just wondering if they are only hiring those with experience..
thanks
williamske
08-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Gonna be a long wkend...o well gonna hit the gym hard today. And contact a friend to clarify vision requirements .
cuyler2281
08-21-2009, 05:20 PM
Was a 1LT and paratrooper (ABN FA FSO) out of Fort Bragg. 5 years military. Now a CPT in the USAR. I have a B.S in Sociology.
ThanAgain
08-21-2009, 05:23 PM
Gonna be a long wkend...o well gonna hit the gym hard today. And contact a friend to clarify vision requirements .
yes, its going to be a long weekend indeed... and it would be great if you can find out more info about the vision requirement. Thanks
hiltonheadgolf
08-21-2009, 05:39 PM
yes, its going to be a long weekend indeed... and it would be great if you can find out more info about the vision requirement. Thanks
Ask and you shall receive...
https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/fams/medicalCertification.pdf
Good Luck !
williamske
08-21-2009, 05:42 PM
http://www.leftseat.com/marshal.htm
Just from my initial research on my phone...I found this site which has a link for STANDARDS. When you look at it it states corrected or uncorrected. But you cannot be color blind or color deficient which I knew because of the FLETC. FAMS requirements....
Any thoughts?
danthony
08-21-2009, 05:45 PM
Has anybody that has received a call with the offer of a FO been able to access e-Qip?
williamske
08-21-2009, 05:47 PM
Ok it can be corrected vision....thanks for the unecessary scare though. Lol jerks
formerfed
08-21-2009, 05:50 PM
I did see that uncorrected distant vision greater then 20/100 in either eye is disqualifying. Don't lose hope go to the med eval do the best you can and follow Fam medical procedure for followup medical evals. The worst they can say is no you can't be a Fam.
Has anybody that has received a call with the offer of a FO been able to access e-Qip?
Not yet, I contacted HR today and they said I should get an email early next week with instructions to begin e-qip.
danthony
08-21-2009, 05:56 PM
4. 'preciate it
winglet
08-21-2009, 06:09 PM
I have my Master's degree but do not have le experience. it's been a catch 22 for me - can't get the job without the experience, can't get the experience without the job. we all need to start somewhere.
On the day of the medical exam, do we also do a psych eval?
formerfed
08-21-2009, 06:14 PM
Ok it can be corrected vision....thanks for the unecessary scare though. Lol jerks
The Fams use title 14 CFR Part 67 and the Aviation Medical Examiners Guide, with exceptions. One of those being the uncorrected distant vision standard of 20/100 any greater is listed as a disqualifying factor.
formerfed
08-21-2009, 06:14 PM
I have my Master's degree but do not have le experience. it's been a catch 22 for me - can't get the job without the experience, can't get the experience without the job. we all need to start somewhere.
On the day of the medical exam, do we also do a psych eval?
No
ACYV223
08-21-2009, 06:21 PM
You've made it this far, you'll be fine. Try and do something that requires more concentration so you have to focus on that and not the call.
Good Luck !
I actually took this advice and decided to go play a round of golf. On the 12the hole I noticed I missed a call and it was "the call!" I got DC, thanks to everyone for keeping us positive. For everyone waiting I am sure you guys and gals will be ok.
ACYV223
08-21-2009, 06:25 PM
Not yet, I contacted HR today and they said I should get an email early next week with instructions to begin e-qip.
For anyone waiting for e-qip, make sure you take off the spam filter or check your spam folder often, because the last time I did e-qip for my current job it went into the spam folder and it took me a while to find it!
williamske
08-21-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm gonna try to not be on the board this weekend....so ill see u guys Monday. Ttyl.
ThanAgain
08-21-2009, 07:07 PM
wait, the guideline says 20/100 or worse is disqualifying.. so if your vision is worse than 20/100 you are automatically dqed?
wait, the guideline says 20/100 or worse is disqualifying.. so if your vision is worse than 20/100 you are automatically dqed?
If vision is worse than 20/100 uncorrected then it is a DQ, glasses and contacts are permitted.
MPDCjock
08-21-2009, 08:41 PM
What if you have had lasik and you have perfect vision?
DOEWifey
08-21-2009, 09:09 PM
Hey guys! I have a couple questions that perhaps some FAM vets can help me with. My husband got his call on Wed, and has been "assigned" to the NY office, pending his Medical/Drug test on monday in DC.
I am curious about shifts, away time and that kind of thing. I would really like an "un-sugarcoated" look into what we are going to be living if/when he gets his official offer. We are both ex-military cops so I know the deal with being apart, I am just curious as to how long each week he will be gone, how long are breaks, is there a lot of mandatory overtime... we have 2 very small kids, and the thought of him being away (for their sake) is killing me!
Thanks in advance and good luck to all of you still waiting for your call!
ThanAgain
08-21-2009, 10:12 PM
If vision is worse than 20/100 uncorrected then it is a DQ, glasses and contacts are permitted.
so if you have 20/20 corrected with contacts.. it should be fine...
NightFAMer
08-21-2009, 10:18 PM
DOEWIFEY.....Send me a PM and I will fill u in....
brickster720
08-21-2009, 10:35 PM
Repost: Any know how the pft works at FLETC? are they still timed for pushups? I'm obviously striving to do my max in a minute, but just curious overall
gonefishin
08-22-2009, 08:31 AM
Repost: Any know how the pft works at FLETC? are they still timed for pushups? I'm obviously striving to do my max in a minute, but just curious overall
Its the same test you did during the application process....still timed
BPD Once
08-22-2009, 09:26 AM
Hey guys! I have a couple questions that perhaps some FAM vets can help me with. My husband got his call on Wed, and has been "assigned" to the NY office, pending his Medical/Drug test on monday in DC.
I am curious about shifts, away time and that kind of thing. I would really like an "un-sugarcoated" look into what we are going to be living if/when he gets his official offer. We are both ex-military cops so I know the deal with being apart, I am just curious as to how long each week he will be gone, how long are breaks, is there a lot of mandatory overtime... we have 2 very small kids, and the thought of him being away (for their sake) is killing me!
Thanks in advance and good luck to all of you still waiting for your call!
DOE, shoot me a PM with all your questions and I will give you the good, bad, and ugly.
DOEWifey
08-22-2009, 09:29 AM
question came up wrong.. sorry!
DOEWifey
08-22-2009, 10:43 AM
BDP Once and NIGHT FAMer.... you have mail!
Thanks
cuyler2281
08-22-2009, 10:47 AM
The security team will send your equip link. Until then you will be unable to login.. You also have to fax release statements giving dhs permission to dig up dirt and fingerprint locations (airports) will also be attached to email.
I'm sorry for those thinking that I gave you a scare, but, here's the deal.
Take off your contacts or glasses. Go take an eye test with your uncorrected vision. If you can't see at least 20/100, you may be DQ'd.
This is what I was told back in 2005 when I Failed my Medical for having uncorrected vision worse than 20/100 vision.
The rationalization for this is that if you're in a fight on a plane and get punched in the face or some other event happens that your contacts or glasses dislodged from your face and you can't see, this presents as a major risk that the TSA isn't willing to take.
I wish I had had someone to tell me this PRIOR to going to my medical and I would have done something about it. I am just trying to help those so that you don't have the same issues that I did. I'm not trying to do anything but help. But, I think I am just going to keep my mouth shut at this point and wish you all good luck.
Bearcat357
08-22-2009, 12:08 PM
Take off your contacts or glasses. Go take an eye test with your uncorrected vision. If you can't see at least 20/100, you may be DQ'd.
You will be.... ;)
I've got two buddies that were allowed to get surgery on their eyes and then go from there once the surgery had been in place 90 days.
This was 5 years ago....and I have been told by Supervisory FAMs that this is not the case any more.
If you can't pass the test, you will be DQ'd for med. You can reapply after you get it fixed....but for now, you will be DQ'd....
williamske
08-22-2009, 01:29 PM
So what if I get lasik b4 the medical exam?
formerfed
08-22-2009, 01:35 PM
You have to wait at least 90 days after your Lasik surgery before you try and get cleared.
ThanAgain
08-22-2009, 01:58 PM
why wasn't there anything about vision requirement on the application? USSS clearly shows their requirement...
j-mac
08-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Vision requirements... I bet that is a deal breaker for many of us. My vision is maybe 20/100 uncorrected at best, with a half-tilted squinted look upon my face, but with my contact lenses or glasses my vision is better than 20/10. Perhaps things like this is the reason why they run more people through the process than are actually being hired.
I suppose I will go to my med exam this coming week hoping for divine vision or something? :D
FAM Hopeful
08-22-2009, 02:21 PM
why wasn't there anything about vision requirement on the application? USSS clearly shows their requirement...
FAM Hopeful
08-22-2009, 02:25 PM
Sorry, double post.....
williamske
08-22-2009, 02:44 PM
I emailed my recruiter. Ill let you know what he says. Gonna get some sun...ttyl
brickster720
08-22-2009, 07:42 PM
being young and never having vision problems FTW!
echat12
08-23-2009, 05:39 PM
I got a CO from Fams about 11:30AM Friday morning. Of course I was camping with no reception but noticed a voicemail and ran to the top of the sand dunes on the beach to try to get reception to return the call. Then I dropped the phone in the sand. Whoops! Going in Tue morning for my medical. WFO.
Blind Justice
08-23-2009, 05:52 PM
I got a CO from Fams about 11:30AM Friday morning. Of course I was camping with no reception but noticed a voicemail and ran to the top of the sand dunes on the beach to try to get reception to return the call. Then I dropped the phone in the sand. Whoops! Going in Tue morning for my medical. WFO.
Congrats !!!
I called on Friday to make sure they had my correct #... I was told that only 2 guys were making all the calls and wouldnt be done till at least Wednesday of this week...
STILL HOPE!!! =)
airman619
08-23-2009, 11:24 PM
Does anyone know when the next FAM announcement will be coming out? I know the process used to be through AVUE. Are the announcements all on USAJOBS now? Thanks for the info and good luck to everyone in the process!
formerfed
08-24-2009, 10:11 AM
Jobs are posted on USAJOBS and there might be an opening posted in January, but keep in mind they had more then then they needed apply for the last one.
danthony
08-24-2009, 10:16 AM
FormerFed, you seem to be the furthest along of us all. Have you been told what academy date they are looking at for you?
I called in and they said that they are filling classes all the way through January (with at least one class a month, maybe more) with this group. We shall see!
cduke1
08-24-2009, 10:25 AM
Has anyone gotten a call this morning. I am still flying green on dashboard so my hopes are still up. Just wondering if any of us who are still waiting got that "call" yet.
Im dying here!
dshoes60031
08-24-2009, 10:33 AM
Is 20/100 the distance form your computer chair to the screen? How do you measure that distance?
I wear contacts and glasses
williamske
08-24-2009, 10:42 AM
I called in and they said that they are filling classes all the way through January (with at least one class a month, maybe more) with this group. We shall see!
That would be perfect. It would give me the 90 days I would need for LASIK. I was gonna get LASIK anyway. So it perfect. I'm still waiting for my recruiter to email me back. Ill post his response.
formerfed
08-24-2009, 10:54 AM
I'm standing by to stand by, no date yet.
ThanAgain
08-24-2009, 11:42 AM
That would be perfect. It would give me the 90 days I would need for LASIK. I was gonna get LASIK anyway. So it perfect. I'm still waiting for my recruiter to email me back. Ill post his response.
Same boat here. I hope everything will work out
echat12
08-24-2009, 11:49 AM
Congrats !!!
I called on Friday to make sure they had my correct #... I was told that only 2 guys were making all the calls and wouldnt be done till at least Wednesday of this week...
STILL HOPE!!! =)
I got a call from a female.
I got a call from a female.
same here.
Weapon X
08-24-2009, 12:13 PM
Got the phone call today. Got my CO for the DC Office. I had applied for both DC and Newark. Have my Medical on Friday morning at 8am
Congrats!
Man, thats a lot for DC. What gives?
iamjay27
08-24-2009, 12:46 PM
Congrats!
Man, thats a lot for DC. What gives?
I know that's crazy. I was expecting alot of Newark...Maybe it has something to do with the three airports in the close proximity? I am still trying to contact the medical place to get the exam scheduled.
FAMSapplicant
08-24-2009, 01:44 PM
I'm glad to hear they are still making DC calls! I'm still sitting over 'Referred for Selection', though, but assume my application is sitting under a million other better-qualified applications =P
echat12
08-24-2009, 01:53 PM
I'm over referred for selection too and my medical is tomorrow. I don't rely too much on dashboard, as long as I don't see an X.
Just received my eQIP email... and so it begins. :D
DoubleAgent
08-24-2009, 02:52 PM
Still waiting and hoping for the EWR call!
williamske
08-24-2009, 02:56 PM
Same here. I'm not too worried about it though. Doesn't seem like too many people put in for newark.
Blind Justice
08-24-2009, 02:58 PM
Still waitin on a damn call myself...
Has anyone received a call today?
seanjohn
08-24-2009, 03:22 PM
Still waitin on a damn call myself...
Has anyone received a call today?
Weapon X for DC... So at least we know they are still making them for sure!
Blind Justice
08-24-2009, 03:35 PM
Well at least thats some good news for today... =)
cduke1
08-24-2009, 03:45 PM
Still waiting like the rest of you guys. My buddy at FAMS did say that Newark and LA are still open and so is DC. So I dont think anyone on here has gotten a call for Newark or LA, So if you applied to those and didnt recieve a call yet, maybe its one of those two places. Keep prayin, I know I am!
Blind Justice
08-24-2009, 03:58 PM
Still waiting like the rest of you guys. My buddy at FAMS did say that Newark and LA are still open and so is DC. So I dont think anyone on here has gotten a call for Newark or LA, So if you applied to those and didnt recieve a call yet, maybe its one of those two places. Keep prayin, I know I am!
LA was my #1 choice, but now I'll take anything... Just want out of 911 calls.
brickster720
08-24-2009, 04:00 PM
is it just me, or has anyone else been asked to submit the FCRA, OF 306, and Release of information many many times throughout this process?
Looking through my back faxes, I've submitted each at LEAST twice before
Also, anyone else having problems faxing the MHC form in?
Spammail.dj
08-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Still waiting like the rest of you guys. My buddy at FAMS did say that Newark and LA are still open and so is DC. So I dont think anyone on here has gotten a call for Newark or LA, So if you applied to those and didnt recieve a call yet, maybe its one of those two places. Keep prayin, I know I am!
I applied for LA only so hopefully what your friends say is true.
is it just me, or has anyone else been asked to submit the FCRA, OF 306, and Release of information many many times throughout this process?
Looking through my back faxes, I've submitted each at LEAST twice before
Also, anyone else having problems faxing the MHC form in?
I faxed the MHC in and called to check that it was received later that day, no problem. It did take a few tries though because the number was busy the first few times I tried.
ThanAgain
08-24-2009, 04:33 PM
LA was my #1 choice, but now I'll take anything... Just want out of 911 calls.
same here! waiting for the call :o
formerfed
08-24-2009, 04:47 PM
Who is actually waiting for the "CALL", that is they are done with all the steps in the hiring process?
Blind Justice
08-24-2009, 04:57 PM
nobody....
apd98
08-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Has anybody that processed out of Atlanta received the first call for Medical/BI?
priorafsf
08-24-2009, 05:31 PM
Not I........
winglet
08-24-2009, 06:12 PM
Finished up the SF-86 in about 2 hours. Record time! OK, so maybe I'm patting myself on the back a bit.
Is there another interview to go over your background as well as submitting the SF-86? Or are we just notified of their preliminary findings and given the FO (thinking positively)?
FCAP_2008
08-24-2009, 06:17 PM
I am waiting on the call. Have finished everything. Guess its the two of us Formerfed. I thought we would have got it already. :confused:
formerfed
08-24-2009, 06:50 PM
Just so all of you know that are in the medical/security phase, it could take a month to get cleared once you complete all the appointments and submit all your paperwork, if there are no issues. Then you wait for HR to call with a final offer.
INTHEAIRCOP
08-24-2009, 07:29 PM
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
formerfed
08-24-2009, 07:46 PM
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
An Air Marshal is a well trained professional who is ready to act when needed mostly to prevent a hostile person from taking over an aircraft. They do also conduct surveillance of persons of interest based off of intelligence passed from higher. An Air Marshall is a quiet professional who can blend in and not draw attention to themselves or fellow team members. Day to Day Air Marshals board aircraft and fly. If you want to kick doors and arrest people this this not the job. Also if your interested in conducting investigations this is not the job.
How did I do so far?
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
Fly, Fly, Fly....and Fly again. 5 days a week for days at a time, overtime, weekends, holidays, 10 hour days or longer some days. Never home at 5 PM, never count on a day off, there is no such thing as a schedule, you get home when you get off your plane.
I've read your other posts, on this forum and on others. You've been INSANELY helpful. I hope other listen to you.
Spammail.dj
08-24-2009, 08:36 PM
"The Federal Air Marshal Service promotes confidence in the nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers, and crews."
They had me waiting so long for my turn to interview that I ended up memorizing the mission statement while sitting in the waiting room.
DoubleAgent
08-24-2009, 08:38 PM
Doing what it takes to support your family for a career that you believe is making a difference.
BPD Once
08-24-2009, 08:42 PM
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
Read, play Madden 2010 against your flying partner, learn a foreign language, get an advanced degree....LMAO
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
They help the pilots fly the planes...with guns.
manstown
08-24-2009, 08:45 PM
Read, play Madden 2010 against your flying partner, learn a foreign language, get an advanced degree....LMAO
Ladies and gentlemen......we have a winner. And for your prize you get a 0445 showtime with a flight to Ohare with a scheduled return time of........well we all know there is no schedules with Ohare!
BPD Once
08-24-2009, 08:59 PM
Ladies and gentlemen......we have a winner. And for your prize you get a 0445 showtime with a flight to Ohare with a scheduled return time of........well we all know there is no schedules with Ohare!
That sounds like a booby prize. I would much rather get called at 3 am for a 4:30 show for a triangle while on recovery only to get stuck at BOS until 8 pm when I have a RON with an early show the next morning out of IAD.
gonefishin
08-24-2009, 09:04 PM
"The Federal Air Marshal Service promotes confidence in the nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers, and crews."
They had me waiting so long for my turn to interview that I ended up memorizing the mission statement while sitting in the waiting room.
I think this is the mission statement...and this is what they really do...
In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to O'Hare for a flight that was delayed for 4 hours. These men promptly escaped from a maximum secuirity stockade in the Chicago Underground. Today, still delayed and wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune and experts at PSP. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire....The FAMS.
ACYV223
08-24-2009, 09:05 PM
Finished up the SF-86 in about 2 hours. Record time! OK, so maybe I'm patting myself on the back a bit.
Is there another interview to go over your background as well as submitting the SF-86? Or are we just notified of their preliminary findings and given the FO (thinking positively)?
The investigator will interview you to give you a chance to correct any mistakes you made on your SF86. Also, they may coordinate some interviews with co-workers through you. But, each investigator is different, so at least expect an interview to quickly go through your SF86 with you.
formerfed
08-24-2009, 09:09 PM
The investigator will interview you to give you a chance to correct any mistakes you made on your SF86. Also, they may coordinate some interviews with co-workers through you. But, each investigator is different, so at least expect an interview to quickly go through your SF86 with you.
Background investigation does not start until you get hired so expect your investigator to interview you sometime after that.
ACYV223
08-24-2009, 09:15 PM
I am waiting on the call. Have finished everything. Guess its the two of us Formerfed. I thought we would have got it already. :confused:
This is just a guess on my part, so please do not take this as I was given this info by someone in HR. Again, this is only a guess!
I think the only reason you guys have been waiting so long is because they (HR) are waiting for more people to finish the Med/BI so that they can fill up a class. I believe this because they already had EODs go out for training for August (probably class was not full), so they moved it back to Sept. It seemed as though more than they expected applied so that backed everything up. I could be wrong, only HR knows.
manstown
08-24-2009, 09:16 PM
That sounds like a booby prize. I would much rather get called at 3 am for a 4:30 show for a triangle while on recovery only to get stuck at BOS until 8 pm when I have a RON with an early show the next morning out of IAD.
"Stick with the mission." That's why you get all the LEAP. I use to love hearing that.....
formerfed
08-24-2009, 09:18 PM
"Stick with the mission." That's why you get all the LEAP. I use to love hearing that.....
Will the lawsuit change the overtime policy?
manstown
08-24-2009, 09:19 PM
Background investigation does not start until you get hired so expect your investigator to interview you sometime after that.
Actually did mine while I was in Phase II. Actually did a few people's BI while we were in Phase II now that I think about it. Day I resigned was the day the approved my clearance. That was almost 2 years after hire.
gonefishin
08-24-2009, 09:19 PM
Background investigation does not start until you get hired so expect your investigator to interview you sometime after that.
And also expect a second investigator to contact you a year and a half after you met with the first investigator because the first investigator forgot to ask if you had any foreign nationals in your family.....
manstown
08-24-2009, 09:21 PM
Will the lawsuit change the overtime policy?
That's funny! You think it would. But I doubt it. You can't schedule OT and call it LEAP......unless your working for the FAMS! I don't know how they've gotten away with it this long.......but they have.
gonefishin
08-24-2009, 09:21 PM
Will the lawsuit change the overtime policy?
somewhat...it should change the scheduling...
formerfed
08-24-2009, 09:26 PM
Actually did mine while I was in Phase II. Actually did a few people's BI while we were in Phase II now that I think about it. Day I resigned was the day the approved my clearance. That was almost 2 years after hire.
I hear ya, I had a clearance that took 18 months.
Bearcat357
08-24-2009, 10:05 PM
Read, play Madden 2010 against your flying partner, learn a foreign language, get an advanced degree....LMAO
Perhaps in your office...but in a certain Midwest Office, they play Tiger Woods, work on their first degree, collect Harley crap, and get some smuck to take them to Super Pollo @ Ballston Mall when they fly into DCA..... ;)
:D
williamske
08-24-2009, 10:09 PM
I think the overtime law suit will result in the scheduling of 8 hr days instead of 10 hr days to cut back on complaints and what not.
You can be scheduled an 8hr day and basically know for sure after delays you will be working a 10+ hr day no matter what. I think a lot of people get distrot when they are scheduled for 10 hr days from the get go, and then have 3-4 hrs of lay overs.
Most people, including myself, would not mind working the extra hours and it being considered LEAP. But that fact that they schedule 10 hour days seems to be the route of the issue.
I am not a FAM, but I would bet they would change their scheduling from 10 to 8 hour shifts with taking into consideration the extra hours could be LEAP before they would grant overtime.
Seems like a touchy subject though, so please don't attack me lol.
Bearcat357
08-24-2009, 10:13 PM
a career that you believe is making a difference.
A difference in what...?
Learning how to play PSP better....? Learning an new language...? Getting a degree or advance degree...? Learning what hotels are offering the best guest programs so you can score some decent stuff....like Golf Clubs (that would be Crown Plaza and I think that's over)....
Just saying.....some of you guys think the job is highspeed.....and it's far from it....
champs9399
08-24-2009, 11:05 PM
Has anybody that processed out of Atlanta received the first call for Medical/BI?
APD, I got my call last Thursday for the DC office. They had me go up for my medical today. Just got back from Dulles about an hour ago actually. Also, got the email for my BI while I was sitting in the office waiting on the Doc.
Did not meet anybody up there that was not going to NY or DC. Some guys got NY that actually live in DC currently. Seems like kind of a crapshoot where they send people.
ThanAgain
08-24-2009, 11:43 PM
APD, I got my call last Thursday for the DC office. They had me go up for my medical today. Just got back from Dulles about an hour ago actually. Also, got the email for my BI while I was sitting in the office waiting on the Doc.
Did not meet anybody up there that was not going to NY or DC. Some guys got NY that actually live in DC currently. Seems like kind of a crapshoot where they send people.
hope for the best!
vincentvega
08-25-2009, 06:31 AM
Who is actually waiting for the "CALL", that is they are done with all the steps in the hiring process?
I am waiting for the actual "CALL" too. I finished everything at the end of July.
formerfed
08-25-2009, 09:42 AM
So by my count there are 3 of us waiting for the final offer.
cduke1
08-25-2009, 11:03 AM
Heres hoping they call more of us today than they did yesterday. Man this is really tickin me off. Ring already!
ThanAgain
08-25-2009, 12:16 PM
For those waiting for the final offer... wouldn't it be just a matter of time until the you get the 'final offer?'
iamjay27
08-25-2009, 12:56 PM
I normally ask this question from time and time.
Do any of you have a clue what a flying Federal Air Marshal actually does day in and day out?
I want you guys to answer this for me because I am real interested in all of your responses.
Oh and if you are wondering who I am. I have been with the FAM service for close to 8 years and have been flying the entire time. I have never had an office job ( chair FAM ).
An Air Marshal is a well trained professional who is ready to act when needed mostly to prevent a hostile person from taking over an aircraft. They do also conduct surveillance of persons of interest based off of intelligence passed from higher. An Air Marshall is a quiet professional who can blend in and not draw attention to themselves or fellow team members. Day to Day Air Marshals board aircraft and fly. If you want to kick doors and arrest people this this not the job. Also if your interested in conducting investigations this is not the job.
How did I do so far?
Fly, Fly, Fly....and Fly again. 5 days a week for days at a time, overtime, weekends, holidays, 10 hour days or longer some days. Never home at 5 PM, never count on a day off, there is no such thing as a schedule, you get home when you get off your plane.
I've read your other posts, on this forum and on others. You've been INSANELY helpful. I hope other listen to you.
How about its a compilation of all the above.
Read, play Madden 2010 against your flying partner, learn a foreign language, get an advanced degree....LMAO
They help the pilots fly the planes...with guns.
Hahaha, when I use to travel alot for work that's what I use to do, to catch up on work that I needed to do on the airplane and get some reading done. Mostly, in a futile attempt to catch up on some sleep too. Since almost everytime I flew, I cross at least 3 time zones. ahhh, fun times! :D
echat12
08-25-2009, 01:19 PM
Had my medical this morning at WFO. Should have gotten the eqip email by now but haven't so I'm currently playing phone tag with the HR lady. Otherwise, Process moving right along. Also, lots of squinting did the trick with the uncorrected vision exam.
Blind Justice
08-25-2009, 01:22 PM
any calls today?
runeire
08-25-2009, 01:29 PM
Quick question for those who have completed their medical already....did your FO advise you of a dress code or did you just play it safe and wear a suit? Also, how long did you spend at the FO on the day of your medical? Thanks for the info, just want a heads up on what to expect on Thursday....
echat12
08-25-2009, 01:32 PM
It said in the email business casual. Also, took 4 hours but it can be as short as 1 or 2 depending on who goes first. You have to do vision, hearing, urine, ekg and doctor. Then an exit visit with a nurse. The time really depends on how organized they are. If you're not doing it at a FO then it should just be you so not long at all.
I went for half of mine today (the other half is on monday) and it took about an hr for everything. Of course, I was the only one there. crazy.
SigFoo
08-25-2009, 02:14 PM
For anyone that's gone through the medical - was the vision test with the broken circles? I have trouble with that one all the time for some reason but do fine with the regular eye charts. Just thought I'd ask.
DoubleAgent
08-25-2009, 02:18 PM
any calls today?
I don't think I've read that anybody got a call for Newark yet, so there's still hope yet. It's not over till you get a email/letter saying thanks for playing...
FAMSapplicant
08-25-2009, 02:39 PM
Yup- I'm hoping there is good news sometime this week. I'm feeling pessimistic about myself, however.
Oh- Just in case anyone hadn't noticed, there is a USSS job posted out there:
http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/search.aspx?FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&sort=rv,-dtex&vw=d&re=134&caller=basic.aspx&jbf574=HSAD&jbf571=1
In my limited exposure to both FAM and USSS, I don't think it is nearly as exciting as FAM, but hey- maybe it is a good alternative until next year's posting?
Nino06
08-25-2009, 04:11 PM
Has anyone that processed out of the Dallas FO, received a call?
cduke1
08-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Has anyone that processed out of the Dallas FO, received a call?
I havent. And I know of one other guy on here who processed out of Dallas who also hasnt recieved a call. PM me and i will fill you in on what the ATSAC there has told me.
ThanAgain
08-25-2009, 04:41 PM
well.. with no calls going out.. might be that most of the selection has already been made...
williamske
08-25-2009, 05:17 PM
Waiting........
Nino06
08-25-2009, 05:26 PM
Have any LA calls been made?
seanjohn
08-25-2009, 06:14 PM
I think that we might have to start coming to grips with the reality that we will likely not be selected if not called yet. I know its a hard pill to swallow but it is beginning to look more and more like it.
I guess we should continue to keep our fingers crossed through the end of the week and hope for the best.
cuyler2281
08-25-2009, 06:53 PM
When TSA called (8/14), they said I was lucky b/c I got my first choice (NYFO). I don't remember choosing an FO in any order. Its cool and I will move to NJ, but I don't remember a ranking FO system on the application. I was told FAMS selected 140 out of the 500 that were ref for selection on the 15th.
Spammail.dj
08-25-2009, 07:10 PM
NO RED X....HOWEVER STILL NO CALL FOR LA. WHATS THE DEAL???
ThanAgain
08-25-2009, 07:13 PM
NO RED X....HOWEVER STILL NOW CALL FOR LA. WHATS THE DEAL???
no red x here either
Did the medical this morning and the fingerprints this afternoon, just finished eqip and faxed the forms. Nothing left to do but wait now :)
For anyone that's gone through the medical - was the vision test with the broken circles? I have trouble with that one all the time for some reason but do fine with the regular eye charts. Just thought I'd ask.
Yes, both the broken circles and regular chart were used.
ThanAgain
08-25-2009, 07:32 PM
It would be great if they could tell us the status or send a rejection letter..
cuyler2281
08-25-2009, 08:06 PM
DPO where was your medical done? I have mine at the NYFO Friday. I completed my eqip and fingerprints last week.
Nino06
08-25-2009, 09:35 PM
Cuyler
When did you have your interview?
DPO where was your medical done? I have mine at the NYFO Friday. I completed my eqip and fingerprints last week.
I did my medical in Las Vegas but not at the field office. It was a federal building and there was a USSS applicant there and an ATF agent doing physicals also.
winglet
08-25-2009, 10:34 PM
I have been trying to fax in my mental health certification and all I get are busy signals. I tried calling but alas, no answer.
For anyone who already had to fax this in.....any ideas of a good time period of day (or night) to do it?
My equip and those forms were finished and all sent in yesterday, no troubles. Just have my medical (27th) and fingerprints (currently attempting to schedule) left to do.
ACYV223
08-25-2009, 10:56 PM
I have been trying to fax in my mental health certification and all I get are busy signals. I tried calling but alas, no answer.
For anyone who already had to fax this in.....any ideas of a good time period of day (or night) to do it?
My equip and those forms were finished and all sent in yesterday, no troubles. Just have my medical (27th) and fingerprints (currently attempting to schedule) left to do.
I think faxing in the Mental Health Certification is the pysch eval. If you do not go crazy trying to fax this in then you pass. I have been trying for the past two days and still no luck. What is up with the busy signal all day. I guess I'll try again tomorrow.
ACYV223
08-25-2009, 10:59 PM
I did my medical in Las Vegas but not at the field office. It was a federal building and there was a USSS applicant there and an ATF agent doing physicals also.
Hey DPO,
how was the medical exam in Vegas? I have mine there at the Federal building on Tuesday. How long did it take? What did the test consist of? Thanks!
echat12
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
I had my medical today at WFO but nobody said anything about fingerprints. Is that email supposed to come with the eqip email? Also, either mail the mental health form or bring it to the field office. They are not in the office this week anyway.
winglet
08-25-2009, 11:43 PM
I think faxing in the Mental Health Certification is the pysch eval. If you do not go crazy trying to fax this in then you pass. I have been trying for the past two days and still no luck. What is up with the busy signal all day. I guess I'll try again tomorrow.
Happy to know it's not just me! If we keep getting this busy signal, would it be acceptable to just bring those forms to my medical exam at the NYFO, (I think the FAMS MPD is located elsewhere) as echat suggested?
cuyler2281
08-26-2009, 03:36 AM
I had my interview aug 5 in newark, nj
cuyler2281
08-26-2009, 05:56 AM
If your medical is scheduled at the NYFO you don't have to fax your eval you can fill it out and bring it.
Nino06
08-26-2009, 06:52 AM
Cuyler2281,
Thanks, I was trying to see if they are going in any date order. I had my interview on 8/12.
Hey DPO,
how was the medical exam in Vegas? I have mine there at the Federal building on Tuesday. How long did it take? What did the test consist of? Thanks!
Pretty basic, UA, eye test,hearing test, EKG, and then meet with the doc to go over the med forms you filled out. Took about 2 hours, make sure you bring change for parking. No free parking near the building.
Blind Justice
08-26-2009, 08:55 AM
So when's the next annoucement gonna be???
williamske
08-26-2009, 09:28 AM
Cuyler2281,
Thanks, I was trying to see if they are going in any date order. I had my interview on 8/12.
I had my interview in newark during august.
echat12
08-26-2009, 09:29 AM
If your medical is scheduled at the NYFO you don't have to fax your eval you can fill it out and bring it.
Yes, that's what I was saying. They are not in Egg Harbor this week because they are deployed to various field offices. So they gave me another one to fill out. It's the same people at your medical as would be getting the fax.
Weapon X
08-26-2009, 09:46 AM
Winglet, I am having the same problem. I just called the POC xxxxxx over this issue and left a message. Hopefully she'll fix it. I'm gona keep trying throughout the day. Let me know if you have any success.
formerfed
08-26-2009, 10:03 AM
Winglet, I am having the same problem. I just called the POC xxxxx over this issue and left a message. Hopefully she'll fix it. I'm gona keep trying throughout the day. Let me know if you have any success.
I would refrain from posting peoples names or contact numbers on the public board. Might be better communicated via private message assuming you know who your speaking with.
runeire
08-26-2009, 10:11 AM
For those of you that completed your medical already at the NYFO, did you do your fingerprints on the same day? The list that they gave for locations only lists the airports...I was wondering if that could be done at the FO as well.
I'm sure the fax machine is just out of paper on their end causing the memory to load up with faxes. When the memory is full it will cause a busy signal. I'm pretty sure mine went through the other day, but I may resend this afternoon for the heck of it.
echat12
08-26-2009, 10:39 AM
another option is to mail it. Let me know if you need the address.
Bearcat357
08-26-2009, 11:01 AM
Will you guys quit posting names without their permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Lord.....
"They" read these boards too.
Bearcat357
08-26-2009, 11:21 AM
"They" read these boards too.
TSA/FAM Management read this board RP, and 911 all the time guys.....
Posting whines/gripes/moans/names and they figure out who you are (which is quite easy based on posting your location and where/when you procssed through a FO)......will make someone frown....and it will not be a good day for you.....
If you think I am kidding.....you are sorely, sorely wrong....
formerfed
08-26-2009, 11:32 AM
Hence the reason I remain vague.
iamjay27
08-26-2009, 12:07 PM
So when's the next annoucement gonna be???
Hey, you still got time, one thing about the government is they might set a deadline, but that deadline sometimes is flexible. If needs be they will slide it to the right. Don't loose hope.
TSA/FAM Management read this board RP, and 911 all the time guys.....
Posting whines/gripes/moans/names and they figure out who you are (which is quite easy based on posting your location and where/when you procssed through a FO)......will make someone frown....and it will not be a good day for you.....
If you think I am kidding.....you are sorely, sorely wrong....
I must have missed the posts, but didn't see any names on there.
I think that it could be easily avoided if people just keep in mind that what if those information they are posting in a public forum were their personal information. Would you want to it made public, if not then treat other people's information the same way. Without getting in the whole privacy act information and etc. etc.
formerfed
08-26-2009, 12:40 PM
Somebody PM me an HR rep's phone number I want to try speaking to a different person.
DoubleAgent
08-26-2009, 01:29 PM
Just curious, what do you guys tells family & friends when they ask, "So, what do you do?"
iamjay27
08-26-2009, 01:30 PM
I have been trying to fax in my mental health certification and all I get are busy signals. I tried calling but alas, no answer.
For anyone who already had to fax this in.....any ideas of a good time period of day (or night) to do it?
My equip and those forms were finished and all sent in yesterday, no troubles. Just have my medical (27th) and fingerprints (currently attempting to schedule) left to do.
All, the POC that was provided with the email's voice message has just changed. It stated that they are experiencing technical diffculties and to start trying again next week. Thats if you are not going through the processing center at Atlantic City or DC.
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