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j-mac
08-17-2009, 12:51 PM
Dashboard just updated to say I took the assessment battery on 7/23...and I did the panel portion on 8/6 with SAC interview and PFT. It is way behind!
I called HR Access and was told I was in fact selected as a candidate and should receive a conditional offer in the coming days via email.
I wanted to let all of you non-LE know that I have a Master's Degree, three Bachelors, am a CPA, and received one excellent two goods, and one poor on the fitness test (I injured my ankle the previous week and could not do the 1.5 mile, well, I lightly jogged it in 15:00 and boy was it swollen!), but I do have an extensive martial arts background, if that counts.
Thought I would give a head's up given all the comments on who is and is not going to receive offers based on qualifications...and I am a white male, also.
danthony
08-17-2009, 12:56 PM
J-mac, congrats on the info. You make some good points. I've been a LEO for 5 years, Detective for 1 1/2 in a high speed dept. B.S. in CJ with honors and that's it. 3 excellents (for my age 35) and the 1.5 mile in 14 mins. I pulled my calf about 3 weeks before and didn't want to re-injure it. I met with the SAC after my panel and am in the "referred for selection" group. Good luck to all.
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 01:02 PM
Dashboard just updated to say I took the assessment battery on 7/23...and I did the panel portion on 8/6 with SAC interview and PFT. It is way behind!
I called HR Access and was told I was in fact selected as a candidate and should receive a conditional offer in the coming days via email.
I wanted to let all of you non-LE know that I have a Master's Degree, three Bachelors, am a CPA, and received one excellent two goods, and one poor on the fitness test (I injured my ankle the previous week and could not do the 1.5 mile, well, I lightly jogged it in 15:00 and boy was it swollen!), but I do have an extensive martial arts background, if that counts.
Thought I would give a head's up given all the comments on who is and is not going to receive offers based on qualifications...and I am a white male, also.
At a Track!
Thanks for the reply. Where'd you take it, Philly or DC?
Was the process similar in the since that you had interviewed with a SAC and then were given the "referred for selection"? Just curious as to whether the process is still the same from when you had that experience?
As I echo the Good Luck Chant to all who are still in the process!
No it was a lot different. The panel interview was first, there was no SAC interview. They called me the night of the interview and said that I had made it to the next round. They told me that I had to come back to the FO the next day. Just so happened that I had court, and asked to reschedule. They said no, so I had to go to the FO. Turns out this was all just for a drug test and written psych tests. About a week later, I had the psych eval and had a highly recomend from the Dr. Then, the next week, I had the medical exam. They called me after that and directed me to overnight mail my fingerprints to them in DC.... Then nothing for 3 months. I nearly had my bags packed, so it was pretty disappointing.
There was NO PTA...now, there is no psych eval for this round...
echat12
08-17-2009, 01:39 PM
Dashboard just updated to say I took the assessment battery on 7/23...and I did the panel portion on 8/6 with SAC interview and PFT. It is way behind!
I called HR Access and was told I was in fact selected as a candidate and should receive a conditional offer in the coming days via email.
I wanted to let all of you non-LE know that I have a Master's Degree, three Bachelors, am a CPA, and received one excellent two goods, and one poor on the fitness test (I injured my ankle the previous week and could not do the 1.5 mile, well, I lightly jogged it in 15:00 and boy was it swollen!), but I do have an extensive martial arts background, if that counts.
Thought I would give a head's up given all the comments on who is and is not going to receive offers based on qualifications...and I am a white male, also.
That's weird. I called the help line too and they were completely unhelpful. She took 10 minutes to access my dashboard and then pretty much told me whatever was on my dashboard, which I already knew. She said they will contact you by mail when they've made a decision. Not to mention, I could hardly understand her accent. I think i'll just wait...
Spammail.dj
08-17-2009, 01:50 PM
I keep reading that people are calling HR and getting status information before its updated on TSA DASHBOARD. However, I just called HR and they told me that all they do is log onto TSA DASHBOARD and check our status. They see what we see so I don't understand how people are getting confirmation of of referral before its even updated on the dashboard.
I'm not believing anything until on that flight heading towards FLETC.
williamske
08-17-2009, 02:20 PM
I don't remember who was stressing the point that education was irrelevant in the hiring process. It is certainly clear that it is. Just out of curiosity, how many people referred for selection don't have a degree?
I have a BA with a double major in Global Multinational Studies and Political Science with a minor in Business. I was argueing the fact that you need a degree to be considered this year, but I was being argued with.
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 02:42 PM
I have a BA with a double major in Global Multinational Studies and Political Science with a minor in Business. I was argueing the fact that you need a degree to be considered this year, but I was being argued with.
brickster720
08-17-2009, 02:46 PM
I have 2 bachelor's and a MS in bioterrorism, but unfortunately I didn't do well on the PFT.
my plane is still hovering over referred for selection, but my hopes aren't high
Blind Justice
08-17-2009, 02:55 PM
I just called the HR / recruiters to find out exactly what is going on. I was advised that 500 applicants made it to DC. Less than 200 will be hired. I was told that if you are selected then you will get a phone call by friday. If you don't get a call then you'll get a rejection email by the end of next week...
j-mac
08-17-2009, 03:04 PM
As far as HR helpdesk goes, my dashboard was messed up a few weeks ago. Said I was applying for a TSA K-9 trainer, which is cool, but wrong. That is why I call to get updates. I have even had checkmarks appear and then disappear the next day.
cduke1
08-17-2009, 03:10 PM
Where did you get those numbers "500 and 200" ? Was it from HR or from a person at a FO? I have heard so many different numbers it is making my head spin. But if those numbers are correct, all of us who made it to the referred step should be proud. 500 out of 17000, thats pretty damn good.
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 03:28 PM
I just called the HR / recruiters to find out exactly what is going on. I was advised that 500 applicants made it to DC. Less than 200 will be hired. I was told that if you are selected then you will get a phone call by friday. If you don't get a call then you'll get a rejection email by the end of next week...
Blind Justice
08-17-2009, 03:28 PM
I called HR in DC.
WVU Brubbz
08-17-2009, 03:31 PM
The way I understood it was that each FO had only so many positions to fill. So you are saying that HR in DC said they are only hiring less than 200 nationwide??
dtown101
08-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Anyone take the PTA at the DC or Philly FO? If so, was the run done on a treadmill or track.
Please PM.
Thanks very much.
your running outside (DC)
The way I understood it was that each FO had only so many positions to fill. So you are saying that HR in DC said they are only hiring less than 200 nationwide??
I think that there is more to this than what we know.
I think that there are hiring rounds to fill the FLETC classes. I.E.
People in round 1, are referred for selection by August 15th for the September class.
People in round 2 are referred for selection by __________ for the October class.
People in round 3 are referred for selction by ____________ for the December class.
(This is assuming that there is more than one class before Jan 1 2010)
Don't forget that most of us got our COE's in June 2009 for the February 2009 announcement while some got there COE's the same month as the announcement. So, if there are two sets of COE's that went out, then there has to be more to this than what we know.
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 04:13 PM
The way I understood it was that each FO had only so many positions to fill. So you are saying that HR in DC said they are only hiring less than 200 nationwide??
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cduke1
08-17-2009, 04:15 PM
I think that there is more to this than what we know.
I think that there are hiring rounds to fill the FLETC classes. I.E.
People in round 1, are referred for selection by August 15th for the September class.
People in round 2 are referred for selection by __________ for the October class.
People in round 3 are referred for selction by ____________ for the December class.
(This is assuming that there is more than one class before Jan 1 2010)
Don't forget that most of us got our COE's in June 2009 for the February 2009 announcement while some got there COE's the same month as the announcement. So, if there are two sets of COE's that went out, then there has to be more to this than what we know.
I agree, unless we know someone who is actually in the HR process, we are probably all way off. It is better to just keep your fingers crossed instead of assuming things. But it would be nice for someone of us to know a little more about the process. But the above statement makes sense.
I agree, unless we know someone who is actually in the HR process, we are probably all way off. It is better to just keep your fingers crossed instead of assuming things. But it would be nice for someone of us to know a little more about the process. But the above statement makes sense.
True, but, just speculation at this point. I am just wondering that if they are done hiring or done referring people for selection why I'm even still in the process.
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 04:46 PM
True, but, just speculation at this point. I am just wondering that if they are done hiring or done referring people for selection why I'm even still in the process.
.
williamske
08-17-2009, 05:16 PM
What are normal business hours for them?
Blind Justice
08-17-2009, 05:38 PM
I would imagine 8 - 5
Pvt. Cowboy
08-17-2009, 05:39 PM
I believe most, if not all of us found out by constant phone calls and email exchange between the HR and/or the help desk. If I am not mistaken, they will either send out confirmations of our progress/rejections this week.
I'm totally pumped to read what my "options" are in my loser letter... Hurry up and hit my mailbox already!
"Thank you for applying with TSA/DHS. You've been rejected, for no apparently obvious reason, but you do however have the option to re-apply in October during the next announcement and blow more money traveling to an interviewing FO. Thanks for playing." :D
What are normal business hours for them?
8:30 - 5 EST
champs9399
08-17-2009, 05:49 PM
So, did anybody receive a phone call today?
cuyler2281
08-17-2009, 06:34 PM
I got my call friday morning and got my email today about starting my SF-86 TS process. I have my medical scheduled for Aug 28th in NYC.
seanjohn
08-17-2009, 06:34 PM
So, did anybody receive a phone call today?
No... not today. I am still patiently waiting but I must say that this process is nerve wrecking!
williamske
08-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Nope no call today, but I am not too worried yet. If thurs comes and goes....I will start to worry lol
FAM Hopeful
08-17-2009, 07:45 PM
I'm totally pumped to read what my "options" are in my loser letter... Hurry up and hit my mailbox already!
"Thank you for applying with TSA/DHS. You've been rejected, for no apparently obvious reason, but you do however have the option to re-apply in October during the next announcement and blow more money traveling to an interviewing FO. Thanks for playing." :D
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 03:03 AM
FAM HOPEFUL, four of my White buddies got calls. So, I don't understand why you have to be "black or female" to be competitive in the FAMS process.
FAM Hopeful
08-18-2009, 08:51 AM
FAM HOPEFUL, four of my White buddies got calls. So, I don't understand why you have to be "black or female" to be competitive in the FAMS process.
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 09:14 AM
I'm a diversity canidate. And I have a SSI, degree, military officer, combat experience, Combat Action Badge, served with 82nd airborne div, paratrooper, and just short of a MS degree. So I guess I was hired b/c I was black right? And when hour says diversity, it means special backgrounds.
manstown
08-18-2009, 09:22 AM
I specifically asked HR how someone highly qualified with a fed security clearance, degree, and a near perfect PEB score could get passed on. I was told (and also received and email) that they had to make room for diversity candidates. It's not that you can't be competitive if you're a white male (obviously). It's fact that FAMS will hire a larger proportion of females and minorities. No one in HR will deny that fact. That isn't conjecture, theory, or opinion. I've encouraged my "diversity candidate" friends to apply. It's a paper and stats game with FAMS. Case and point..... I was in FLETCE with a minority female who was fat, couldn't do one pull up, ran the 1.5 mile in over 20 mins with no LE exp. FAMS was trying to contact her for weeks for a hard offer after she continuously blew them off. This wasn't before 2004-2005 when things weren't really competitive.
If that's the case, and you have an email, take it to a lawyer.
cuyler,
Have to say that I'd wish you the best. If you ask me, your services will be better served somewhere else. Trust me when I say that FAMS will only disappoint you.
cduke1
08-18-2009, 10:07 AM
Is anyone else like me, checking my email and dashboard almost every ten minutes and making sure i didn't miss a call. This is more nerve racking than Tony Romo trying to win a playoff game!
echat12
08-18-2009, 10:09 AM
Here's a dilemma for you all...
I am wondering if not getting this job is a blessing in disguise. I was offered a job with the FBI in Feb, failed my poly in April, got a letter rescinding my offer, successfully appealed the polygraph failure, moved to a new location, took a new poly, and passed. My background started a couple weeks ago. It is currently in process. Although my offer was rescinded, I was told that I am still being processed for the position. So if I take the FAMS job, does that really destroy my chances of ever working for the FBI? Do they really look down upon you turning down the job after the BI has been conducted? Has anyone ever done this? I currently have a deactivated status for FBI SA and I don't want to lose the opportunity to reopen that in the future. I am just wondering what everyone thinks. (and salary is not too much of an issue.) The other job is in the lab at Qtco so not too much traveling, which is a plus. But all things aside, how does that look for me in FBI's eyes?
cduke1
08-18-2009, 10:16 AM
EChat,
I have a family member who was offered a job with ICE and was going to fletc for that agency. However, once he was about to leave for fletc, he was offered another position with NCIS. He withdrew his application for ICE thinking he recieved a job with NCIS. However, something went wrong and NCIS sent a letter stating he was not hired. Freaking out, he called back to ICE saying he made a mistake and they hired him anyways. So I really dont think it would hurt you in any way with the FBI.
iamjay27
08-18-2009, 10:25 AM
I specifically asked HR how someone highly qualified with a fed security clearance, degree, and a near perfect PEB score could get passed on. I was told (and also received and email) that they had to make room for diversity candidates. It's not that you can't be competitive if you're a white male (obviously). It's fact that FAMS will hire a larger proportion of females and minorities. No one in HR will deny that fact. That isn't conjecture, theory, or opinion. I've encouraged my "diversity candidate" friends to apply. It's a paper and stats game with FAMS. Case and point..... I was in FLETCE with a minority female who was fat, couldn't do one pull up, ran the 1.5 mile in over 20 mins with no LE exp. FAMS was trying to contact her for weeks for a hard offer after she continuously blew them off. This wasn't before 2004-2005 when things weren't really competitive.
Well it sounds like that you have been in the fed system for awhile, I just don't understand why you don't know that there is a certain quota that the federal government have to meet for minority hires? This pretty much holds true for every branch of the federal government. If you got it in writting then by all means get it to a lawyer and have them look at it, it does sound like you have a case. That's just a shame about FAMS trying to get that girl, which really just tell you, when it comes to the government its the quantity that counts and not the quality.
Still hasn't gotten the call yet, still waiting. If I don't get it, well then I am just going to try my hand at something else. Best of luck to everyone!
echat12
08-18-2009, 10:34 AM
We may have talked about this before....but did anyone who's been given a CO get a salary quote too? With leap and locality, what does the pay look like?
Disappointment is part of the game when applying for Federal Law Enforcement. You could be the best qualified canidate ever, and be turned down, given no rhyme or reason.
Let's not turn this discussion into a p*ssing match about race or degrees or credentials. Don't we all have the same goal in mind? We might not think it's "fair" but, we all know that life isn't fair, right?
I was given a highly recomend back in 2005 from the FAMS and didn't get selected, I was upset, but don't give up trying.
Don't give up, keep trying.
Is anyone else like me, checking my email and dashboard almost every ten minutes and making sure i didn't miss a call. This is more nerve racking than Tony Romo trying to win a playoff game!
I'm right there with you. I can't concentrate 100% at work. :D (Except the Romo analogy alluded me cause I don't care for the 'boys.)
Here's a dilemma for you all...
I am wondering if not getting this job is a blessing in disguise. I was offered a job with the FBI in Feb, failed my poly in April, got a letter rescinding my offer, successfully appealed the polygraph failure, moved to a new location, took a new poly, and passed. My background started a couple weeks ago. It is currently in process. Although my offer was rescinded, I was told that I am still being processed for the position. So if I take the FAMS job, does that really destroy my chances of ever working for the FBI? Do they really look down upon you turning down the job after the BI has been conducted? Has anyone ever done this? I currently have a deactivated status for FBI SA and I don't want to lose the opportunity to reopen that in the future. I am just wondering what everyone thinks. (and salary is not too much of an issue.) The other job is in the lab at Qtco so not too much traveling, which is a plus. But all things aside, how does that look for me in FBI's eyes?
I don't believe it matters at all. I actually (was dumb) and asked both agencies since I am far along in both. They both said that I have to look out for myself and both were understanding and supported me. One individual at one of the agencies told me that he was proud of me for setting my sites high and respected me for that.
So overall, I don't think it's a negative at all.
iamjay27
08-18-2009, 11:21 AM
Disappointment is part of the game when applying for Federal Law Enforcement. You could be the best qualified canidate ever, and be turned down, given no rhyme or reason.
Let's not turn this discussion into a p*ssing match about race or degrees or credentials. Don't we all have the same goal in mind? We might not think it's "fair" but, we all know that life isn't fair, right?
I was given a highly recomend back in 2005 from the FAMS and didn't get selected, I was upset, but don't give up trying.
Don't give up, keep trying.
Aren't that the truth!
williamske
08-18-2009, 11:33 AM
I think that for every one bad canidate that slips through because of the fed playing the numbers game, there are 10 great canidates. Which if true, would not be a bad statistic. I think there are way more qualified than nonqualified canidates.
WVU Brubbz
08-18-2009, 11:49 AM
Do you think it mattered who you had your 2nd interview with?
cduke1
08-18-2009, 12:04 PM
We may have talked about this before....but did anyone who's been given a CO get a salary quote too? With leap and locality, what does the pay look like?
When I went in for my interview, the SAC said my base pay with locality (on average) would be in the high 50's low 60's. Then he said take 25% of that for Leap and add an additional 5 to 15 for per diem.
So I figured with a pay of 55K times 25% (add 13.75K) and another 5 for per diem and your looking at about 73 to 74K your first year.
Atleast thats what I was told.
seanjohn
08-18-2009, 12:12 PM
Is anyone else like me, checking my email and dashboard almost every ten minutes and making sure i didn't miss a call. This is more nerve racking than Tony Romo trying to win a playoff game!
Although, we are anxious we need to relax... I am going to drive myself crazy and make it 10 times worse if not selected. My advice to those of us who feel like this is to only check your status 3 times per day and pick certain times like 9am 1pm and 6pm...
Give it a shot it has been helping me!
Dashboard Anonymous. haha
Blind Justice
08-18-2009, 12:26 PM
Any calls yet???
seanjohn
08-18-2009, 12:50 PM
Dashboard Anonymous. haha
HAHAHAHA
But nope... still no call.
iamjay27
08-18-2009, 01:12 PM
Dashboard Anonymous. haha
Hahahah! Where do I sign up? :D Nope, no calls yet. Just checked and it is now showing referred for selection, woohoo!!
manstown
08-18-2009, 01:15 PM
When I went in for my interview, the SAC said my base pay with locality (on average) would be in the high 50's low 60's. Then he said take 25% of that for Leap and add an additional 5 to 15 for per diem.
So I figured with a pay of 55K times 25% (add 13.75K) and another 5 for per diem and your looking at about 73 to 74K your first year.
Atleast thats what I was told.
Most will start at the low end of the G payband which is around 36000. Might be a little higher than that. Back in the day they would match your pay if you were coming from another FED Agency. Talking to a buddy of mine that was hired on about a year ago they won't do it anymore.
But here is how you can come to your salary without per diem and night diff or sunday premium or holiday pay:
36000 x locality (which is different, but lets say DC which is on the higher side of locality) roughly 22%.
So:
36000 x 22% = 7920 which added to 36000 = 43920...........Then
36000 x 25% (LEAP) = 9000 which added to 43920 = 52929. Give or take. Now add in the per diem and other things mentioned above and you could could make another 10K.
j-mac
08-18-2009, 01:46 PM
Most will start at the low end of the G payband which is around 36000. Might be a little higher than that. Back in the day they would match your pay if you were coming from another FED Agency. Talking to a buddy of mine that was hired on about a year ago they won't do it anymore.
But here is how you can come to your salary without per diem and night diff or sunday premium or holiday pay:
36000 x locality (which is different, but lets say DC which is on the higher side of locality) roughly 22%.
So:
36000 x 22% = 7920 which added to 36000 = 43920...........Then
36000 x 25% (LEAP) = 9000 which added to 43920 = 52929. Give or take. Now add in the per diem and other things mentioned above and you could could make another 10K.
The bottom of the G-band is $38,776. I was told by the SAC and another Marshal that each person starts at $38,776, and then additional factors are taken into consideration, thus each person's starting base pay is different. For example, if you have an advanced degree such as a Master's, you get so much additional pay for that. If you have managed more than 10 people, you earn additional money. If you speak a foreign language, additional money. Prior law enforcement or military experience? Additional base pay. Thus, the G band ranges from $38,776 to $60,081, depending on a person's qualifications.
The half dozen or so individuals that I have spoken with that have received final offers said that most people are starting between $48,000 and $52,000 base pay, plus the 25% LEAP, plus locality, so for DC it would be more like $73,000 plus per diem.
usmcvet
08-18-2009, 01:55 PM
Has anyone do the Panel and PT on the same day at the New York Field Office? I am just wondering if this is the only FO that doesn't do it on the same day.
priorafsf
08-18-2009, 02:03 PM
My dashboard changed today to referred for selection dated August 14th, this change for anyone else? I have not called the help desk. I was relying on the unreliable dashboard!!!
Spammail.dj
08-18-2009, 02:45 PM
My dashboard changed today to referred for selection dated August 14th, this change for anyone else? I have not called the help desk. I was relying on the unreliable dashboard!!!
I just got my green check over the interview and my green plane is finally flying over referred for selection.
priorafsf
08-18-2009, 02:47 PM
Hopefully that means something good for us but no need to get our hopes up, right?
I stopped believing the dashboard a few weeks back. It took 4 weeks for the assessment battery to turn green and 2 weeks for the panel to show green. All the while HR told me that it had been completed and they had record despite the dashboard not reflecting that. So essentially they told me not to worry about what the dashboard says cause they're still working out the "kinks."
That being said, my dashboard does not say referred, but my calls to HR confirm that I have been.
danthony
08-18-2009, 03:47 PM
Does anyone know if all of the "referred" applicants are guaranteed a call or is it still "selective"?
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 03:50 PM
Salary depends on experience. That's why there is a pay scale. They will match what you make if it can be justified and in common with current postion. My FAMS buddies all started between 49K-55k base.
Does anyone know if all of the "referred" applicants are guaranteed a call or is it still "selective"?
I believe that it's still selective.
jb5722
08-18-2009, 04:01 PM
it means you performed poorly in the interview. FAMS does not select people because of race or any crap like that, and anyone who can't cut it will be eliminated in the academies, regardless of race or any other factor.
FAM Hopeful
08-18-2009, 04:18 PM
...........................
williamske
08-18-2009, 04:18 PM
I thought that you were given a base salary and it is calculated like this:
Base + (base x locality %) + (base x .25) = salary
The above example shows leap being calculated off the base + locality pay number....not base only. Which is the correct way?
jb5722
08-18-2009, 04:28 PM
I'm checking my math right now and can't get the numbers to work, but I can tell you that if you come in at the bottom of the G band you will be making in the 60's.
jb5722
08-18-2009, 04:31 PM
[QUOTE=jb5722;1947599]it means you performed poorly in the interview. FAMS does not select people because of race or any crap like that, and anyone who can't cut it will be eliminated in the academies, regardless of race or any other factor.
Wrong. The panel interview is graded on a pass/fail basis. Those who pass that portion are referred to the SAC for a second interview. If the SAC gives you his/her blessing, you are sent to DC for selection. The panel then looks at all the apps and then selects who they want. The problem with this being that the panel could/should look at the apps first to see who they want and then work their way down. There isn't any arguing the point that once at the academy, you are on a level playing field. It is also undebateable that diversity candidates receive bonus points on their apps.
you are completely wrong, candidates are ranked in 4 different levels, those in the highest level are selected first. the levels are something along the lines of most qualified, highly qualified, qualified, not qualified. those in the last category don't get hired. I think the fact that you are clearly ignorant as sin was probably detected by the FAMS on your panel, I'm guessing that may have had something to do with your ranking.
Cman21
08-18-2009, 04:37 PM
It is base x locality %, take that number and multiply it by 25%. jb5722 is correct with the formula, he is a FAM, except that his calculation should come to $54,900 not $68,625.
FD2FED1977
08-18-2009, 04:46 PM
Official for me today.......X Good luck to the rest of you guys in the process. :(
Cman21
08-18-2009, 04:56 PM
Official for me today.......X Good luck to the rest of you guys in the process. :(
Did the red X go on the Dashboard today or did you receive a phone call?
FAM Hopeful
08-18-2009, 04:59 PM
[QUOTE=jb5722;1947628][QUOTE=FAM Hopeful;1947615]
seanjohn
08-18-2009, 05:07 PM
Official for me today.......X Good luck to the rest of you guys in the process. :(
Really sorry to hear man... and thanks you for the good wishes. Hopefully we will see you next time around!
apd98
08-18-2009, 05:20 PM
[QUOTE=jb5722;1947628]
I wouldn't argue the ranking system seeing as I was rated as highly qualified. However there was no need to run a bunch of us through interviews if they never would've hired us had they just looked at our apps. first. My (along with many others) biggest problem is that FAMS ran a bunch of us through a process when we had no chance of being hired despite how the interview/PEB went.
TSA has changed their hiring procedure. Back in the day, if you passed your interview and didn't screw up the PEB, you were hired. The new way might streamline processes for them, but it really waste a lot of our time.
Dude, let it go!!!! Every one of us that has been through a hiring process has been rejected at one time or another. Just because you think you are most qualified does not mean the panel did. Move on, change your forum name and let the applicants that are still in the process exchange useful information.
Good luck to the hopefuls!!!
Spammail.dj
08-18-2009, 05:36 PM
[QUOTE=FAM Hopeful;1947615]
you are completely wrong, candidates are ranked in 4 different levels, those in the highest level are selected first. the levels are something along the lines of most qualified, highly qualified, qualified, not qualified. those in the last category don't get hired. I think the fact that you are clearly ignorant as sin was probably detected by the FAMS on your panel, I'm guessing that may have had something to do with your ranking.
apd98 - I totally agree!
Also, I saw the review sheet that the Special Agents fills out and the highest you could receive is Highly Qualified. I never heard or saw a Most Qual but what do I know I'm just another sucker reading these forums and waiting for that phone call.
GOOD LUCK to everyone still in the game....!
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 05:51 PM
apd98 your right he needs to get over it and apply again.
I spoke with my FAM buddy who was on a panel and he said rankings are a followed... Highly Qual, recom for fam, not recom. That's it!! They had had just under 200 positions open. Over 400 apps were referred to DC.
cduke1
08-18-2009, 05:57 PM
As long as I am still in the green on dashboard, I am keeping my fingers crossed! Has anyones dashboard changed status in past couple of days?
j-mac
08-18-2009, 06:10 PM
As long as I am still in the green on dashboard, I am keeping my fingers crossed! Has anyones dashboard changed status in past couple of days?
My changed this morning to the 'plane' being over "referred for selection."
iamjay27
08-18-2009, 06:14 PM
As long as I am still in the green on dashboard, I am keeping my fingers crossed! Has anyones dashboard changed status in past couple of days?
Hey, my just changed today and I interviewed last Wednesday.
DoubleAgent
08-18-2009, 06:27 PM
Have any FAMS failed to obtain a FAA Class II Medical after being on the job? What happens?
williamske
08-18-2009, 06:38 PM
Idk if I was deemed highly qualified or not. I just know I was referred. Check dashboard just now and it still referred for selection. Still just waiting. But its only Tuesday...keeping the fingers crossed.
Spammail.dj
08-18-2009, 06:53 PM
Does anyone know if we are able to start our eQip background early? I passed the interview and am waiting for the referred for selection.
DoubleAgent
08-18-2009, 07:16 PM
While you cannot enter the eQuip system, you can certainly gather all the data ready to be entered (it is quite lengthy and may require some investigative work on your end to complete fully). It is based on the SF-86 and you can find more details here: https://tsajobs.tsa.dhs.gov/e-QIPTutorial/eQIP.htm
FAM Hopeful
08-18-2009, 07:27 PM
apd98 your right he needs to get over it and apply again.
I spoke with my FAM buddy who was on a panel and he said rankings are a followed... Highly Qual, recom for fam, not recom. That's it!! They had had just under 200 positions open. Over 400 apps were referred to DC.
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 07:35 PM
You can only login into the eQuip after you are called and offered a CO/ TO. The security team asst. Will contact you via email with directions. After you are referred you have to be selected.
I just completed mine today.
manstown
08-18-2009, 08:31 PM
The bottom of the G-band is $38,776. I was told by the SAC and another Marshal that each person starts at $38,776, and then additional factors are taken into consideration, thus each person's starting base pay is different. For example, if you have an advanced degree such as a Master's, you get so much additional pay for that. If you have managed more than 10 people, you earn additional money. If you speak a foreign language, additional money. Prior law enforcement or military experience? Additional base pay. Thus, the G band ranges from $38,776 to $60,081, depending on a person's qualifications.
The half dozen or so individuals that I have spoken with that have received final offers said that most people are starting between $48,000 and $52,000 base pay, plus the 25% LEAP, plus locality, so for DC it would be more like $73,000 plus per diem.
That's if they start in the mid range of the G Band. I know quite a few people that took the job with a Masters and started with the same pay as someone who didn't with little to no experience. It's a craps shoot. If they give you anything higher than the lower end of the pay band, consider it a good day. I highly doubt that many will be brought on at $73000 after everything is said and done. That's just what buddies that conducted interviews have been telling me.
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 09:24 PM
Depends. Not a crap shoot when it comes to salary. When they offer they will ask if its acceptable, its up to you to justify what you think your worth is. Simular to corporate. This is coming from 4 of my FAM boys. If you have a masters and they can get you for 38k, then they will. ALL of my friends were paid between 48k-54 base. 3 were military officers and one was a SSG. All had a degree. If your going to a high cost area ie. DC and NY you have a little more leverage.
WVU Brubbz
08-18-2009, 09:42 PM
Does your FAM buddies know when they are going to let everyone else know?
cuyler2281
08-18-2009, 10:10 PM
No, its in HR's hands now. There are classes aug, sept, oct, nov, and jan. I was contacted on friday morning. They think within the next 7 days, b/c medicals have to be set up at the regional med offices.
champs9399
08-18-2009, 10:13 PM
I had asked in a previous post, if anybody knew where the medical takes place. Cuyler, are you going to your local FO, the FO you were hired for, or another place altogether for your medical?
DaShwstoppahbk
08-18-2009, 10:34 PM
Any thoughts on why after Passing the panel, PEB, and SAC interview back in MAY, and getting a TO about a week later with my background forms and fingerprints, then getting access finally to my dashboard about a month ago and recieveing a RED X on my dashboard over 2 weeks ago (over referred for selection), that I still got an email from HR telling me "thank you for applying for a position with TSA" and to teling me how to register to use my dashboard?...and NO i have not applied for any other TSA jobs...Why would they send me this when I already have registered and have been rejected?
FAM Hopeful
08-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Any thoughts on why after Passing the panel, PEB, and SAC interview back in MAY, and getting a TO about a week later with my background forms and fingerprints, then getting access finally to my dashboard about a month ago and recieveing a RED X on my dashboard over 2 weeks ago (over referred for selection), that I still got an email from HR telling me "thank you for applying for a position with TSA" and to teling me how to register to use my dashboard?...and NO i have not applied for any other TSA jobs...Why would they send me this when I already have registered and have been rejected?
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 07:01 AM
Mid-way through the week.... Starting to get nervous. Hoprfully someone will post that they got the call today...
Good luck everyone!
cuyler2281
08-19-2009, 07:48 AM
I did my panel, pt, and sac interview is Newark. Medicals are done regionally. NYC, DC, Atlanta, Boston, Vegas, LA.... If those locations are too far, TSA has a list of medical offices.
manstown
08-19-2009, 08:44 AM
Depends. Not a crap shoot when it comes to salary. When they offer they will ask if its acceptable, its up to you to justify what you think your worth is. Simular to corporate. This is coming from 4 of my FAM boys. If you have a masters and they can get you for 38k, then they will. ALL of my friends were paid between 48k-54 base. 3 were military officers and one was a SSG. All had a degree. If your going to a high cost area ie. DC and NY you have a little more leverage.
And I've had buddies that argued the salary offered and justified it with experience and degrees only to never get a return call. So I would consider it a crap shoot. One thing to remember is that there are people waiting for the job that will take the offer. If you can get them to give you more, more power to you. When they called me they tried to give me the low end of the G Band. I argued my experience and education and they matched my pay. It took a few days but they did it. Had a buddy hired a few months after me and they basically told him to take it or leave it and that they would move on if he didn't. Just like with anything in LE, articulate it and articulate it well. Good luck to you all and stay safe.
BPD Once
08-19-2009, 09:00 AM
I concur with manstown. I came on within the last 18 months and saw guys try to negotiate pay the day they were handing out offers. I accepted the pay they offered and he negotiated for a couple of thousand more. Needless to say, he didn't get the position. You have to take into account that thousands put in for this and many other agencies making the selection pool huge. From their standpoint why would they negotiate salary with one person when they can offer to the next person who is equally qualified. A few thousand up front is nothing in the grand scheme of things. In my experience they were fair in salary nearly matching what I made at my old PD in base salary. Add in the locality and leap and I was making what I made overall at my old job without putting in 10-40 hrs per week in OT. The money will come with the differential for nights and Sundays, holiday pay, and OT for international trips. I don't even count my per diem into the equation. Make the decision wisely and don't lose out because of an extra couple hundred a month.
winglet
08-19-2009, 09:48 AM
GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so so excited. Good luck guys! It has begun!
williamske
08-19-2009, 09:51 AM
I'm currently at a bse for my current job of 34k but moving up in less than a month tp 41k. I would be estatic is I received an offer and they matched my most current base pay.
GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so so excited. Good luck guys! It has begun!
Congratulations! :cool:
formerfed
08-19-2009, 10:01 AM
Fams:
Application Received 5/2009
Met Qualifications 5/2009
Contingent Offer 5/2009
Criminal/Credit Check 5/2009
FAMS Assessment Battery 6/2009
Panel Interview 6/2009
Referred for Selection 7/2009
Conditional Offer 7/2009
Medical/Drug Evaluation 8/2009
Pre-Hire Background Investigation (In progress)
Final Offer (Waiting)
seanjohn
08-19-2009, 10:02 AM
GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so so excited. Good luck guys! It has begun!
Goodluck and congrats... I am very happy for you!
williamske
08-19-2009, 10:21 AM
GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so so excited. Good luck guys! It has begun!
Congrats winglet¡!!!
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 10:23 AM
GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so so excited. Good luck guys! It has begun!
AWESOME!!!!
What all did they say?
Philly0331
08-19-2009, 11:35 AM
New to the forum, but I have the same timeline as everyone on here. I got the call today for NYFO. Everybody don't stress yourself out, the call will come.
Good luck to all!
cduke1
08-19-2009, 11:57 AM
From what I have read, I think only 3 or 4 of us on here have recieved a call. I talked to my contact at the FO here and he said it could be up to 3 weeks before everyone is contacted.
That's what I was just told too. The guy at my FO was like, "how did you hear that calls are only going out this week?" haha. He acted like it could be over the course of 3-4 weeks. Ahh, the humanity! My phone is in front of my face 24/7 and I can only get so much done. ha
WVU Brubbz
08-19-2009, 12:13 PM
I remember someone saying you should get a call between the 18th and 21st.
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 12:14 PM
Damn you phone....why wont you ring already!?!?!?!
Looks like east coast are getting phone calls before west coast.
I remember someone saying you should get a call between the 18th and 21st.
I think that the calls that are going out from the 18th-21st are for this months class. They still have 2, possibly 3, more classes to fill for the fiscal year.
Damn you phone....why wont you ring already!?!?!?!
Looks like east coast are getting phone calls before west coast.
That's what it seems like (from the info we have). Hopefully they're considering other candidates from other FO's, too! :D
Philly0331
08-19-2009, 12:17 PM
The rumor mill is adding too much anxiety to this whole process. My advice is don't believe what you are hearing because it is most likely untrue. A perfect example is my FAM buddy told me if you interviewed out of the Wash DC Field Office, you would be selected for that office. I interviewed out of DC and got selected for NYFO! Go figure, I am not complaining just trying to make a point.
Keep the faith everyone!
Damn you phone....why wont you ring already!?!?!?!
Looks like east coast are getting phone calls before west coast.
I knew I didn't like the east coast for a reason...
RING DAMNIT! :D
WVU Brubbz
08-19-2009, 12:20 PM
Philly0331 Did you want the NYFO?
formerfed
08-19-2009, 12:20 PM
Fams:
Application Received 5/2009
Met Qualifications 5/2009
Contingent Offer 5/2009
Criminal/Credit Check 5/2009
FAMS Assessment Battery 6/2009
Panel Interview 6/2009
Referred for Selection 7/2009
Conditional Offer 7/2009
Medical/Drug Evaluation 8/2009
Pre-Hire Background Investigation 8/2009
Final Offer (Waiting)
cduke1
08-19-2009, 12:27 PM
Everytime my phone rings, my freakin stomach drops. This sucks!
My advice is don't believe what you are hearing because it is most likely untrue.
Keep the faith everyone!
I completely agree. However, posting "info" on here and reading others "info" is theraputic (or like crack, however you want to look at it). :D
cduke1
08-19-2009, 12:34 PM
I completely agree. However, posting "info" on here and reading others "info" is theraputic (or like crack, however you want to look at it). :D
Sniff Sniff, I need some more!
j-mac
08-19-2009, 12:59 PM
I got "the call." And I was in the shower and missed it!
seanjohn
08-19-2009, 01:01 PM
I got "the call." And I was in the shower and missed it!
Did they leave a message, if so what did it say?
To those of you who have apps in with multiple agencies, which is your first choice?
Got the call!!!! New York:D:D:D:D
I got "the call." And I was in the shower and missed it!
Haha, oh man. So, it's not a deal where if you miss "the call" you don't get the position, right?! Did they leave a call back # or do you have to wait on another call?
Congrats to all who have received "the call!" GREAT news!
DoubleAgent
08-19-2009, 01:09 PM
[QUOTE=Helo;1948645]I think that the calls that are going out from the 18th-21st are for this months class. They still have 2, possibly 3, more classes to fill for the fiscal year.
How would you be able to make into this month's class if your BI can't be complete?
DoubleAgent
08-19-2009, 01:10 PM
Congrats to all so far - the excitement has brought this thread alive!
For all those have been called - did they advise you on possible class dates and salary #s?
[QUOTE=Helo;1948645]I think that the calls that are going out from the 18th-21st are for this months class. They still have 2, possibly 3, more classes to fill for the fiscal year.
How would you be able to make into this month's class if your BI can't be complete?
I was told once medical is cleared the secuirty office gives an initial ok and then you are scheduled for a class. The full background investigation is completed while you are at training.
danthony
08-19-2009, 01:22 PM
Wonder if they call can you ask to be put in to a later class? I know it sounds dumb but what about anyone that gets called next week and told they have to report within a week. That's not even two-weeks notice to an employer. Thoughts?
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 01:27 PM
[QUOTE=DoubleAgent;1948723]
I was told once medical is cleared the secuirty office gives an initial ok and then you are scheduled for a class. The full background investigation is completed while you are at training.
Am I getting this right? We will be sent off to the academy before our background is even completed? Is that why they do an initial criminal and credit check to look for auto dq's? So when do we get get our final offer...before or after the BI? I'm confused???
Congratulations to the guys who got the call. Damn you EAST COAST!
Bearcat357
08-19-2009, 01:31 PM
Wonder if they call can you ask to be put in to a later class? I know it sounds dumb but what about anyone that gets called next week and told they have to report within a week. That's not even two-weeks notice to an employer. Thoughts?
If they call, you had better take it....as there are literally thousands behind you that will drop everything at a minutes notice to take the job....
I doubt they will give you another date because of that fact.
And I from some other postings.....Be careful if you try to get more money out of them. There are plenty of folks out there that won't do that just to get the job....and will get it over you because you are trying to haggle for more money.
Why even bother with you if they can find someone cheaper.....?
Just saying.....and I work around FAMS/Supervisory FAMS on a daily basis for at least 3 more days.....so.....
[QUOTE=DPO;1948730]
Am I getting this right? We will be sent off to the academy before our background is even completed? Is that why they do an initial criminal and credit check to look for auto dq's? So when do we get get our final offer...before or after the BI? I'm confused???
Congratulations to the guys who got the call. Damn you EAST COAST!
Yes, that's what I was told. I thought it was strange also so I asked again and was told that it would unlikely for the full BI to be complete before I leave for a class and that it would be completed before training is finished. I am not sure if a final offer is given before we leave for training or if the BI has to be completed first.
Question for those that have received "the call." Did your dashboard reflect the fact that you were already "referred for selection" or was the plane just hovering over it?
I know the dashboard is unreliable as I have been told that I'm referred, but my dashboard does not reflect it.
(Yes, I'm antsy. :D)
Question for those that have received "the call." Did your dashboard reflect the fact that you were already "referred for selection" or was the plane just hovering over it?
I know the dashboard is unreliable as I have been told that I'm referred, but my dashboard does not reflect it.
(Yes, I'm antsy. :D)
The plane was, and still is, hovering over referred for selection.
Whew, ok.. Im not the only one. Thanks.
j-mac
08-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Ouch...I live on the west coast and was selected for the east coast. Have to make a big decision now on moving my family. Anyone who has received a salary offer for New York please private message me. Thanks!
Yes, they left a message while I was in the shower, and yes I called back!
And no, plane still over 'referred for selection.'
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 01:46 PM
Damn it!!! Why wont my phone ring!?!?!?!
williamske
08-19-2009, 01:49 PM
Looks like calls r only going out from nyfo....
formerfed
08-19-2009, 01:51 PM
First you are referred for selection then you get a second contingent offer. The security office will contact you and you will do the SF86 Eqip and schedule electronic fingerprint appointment. At the same time the medical office will contact you and schedule your medical and drug screening. There are several forms that must be completed that they will email. If you have health issues bring letters from your personal physician which will speed things up. Can take 2-4 weeks for HR to be notified that you have cleared security and medical. To clear things up, the security clearance investigation does not start until after you have been hired. Then the wait begins for the "Call".
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Ouch...I live on the west coast and was selected for the east coast. Have to make a big decision now on moving my family. Anyone who has received a salary offer for New York please private message me. Thanks!
Yes, they left a message while I was in the shower, and yes I called back!
And no, plane still over 'referred for selection.'
Did you select east coast as one of your options?
formerfed
08-19-2009, 01:57 PM
Everybody is offered G Band $38,776-$60,081. Add 27.96% locality (NYC) and 25% for leap to whatever rate you get and there is your pay.
vincentvega
08-19-2009, 02:32 PM
Can everyone please clarify what type of call they received? Was it a call to continue on the process with the remaining steps or the actual "call" with a final offer?
williamske
08-19-2009, 02:34 PM
I want my phone to ring....I had someone call from an unknown number and it was the wrong number. =(
brickster720
08-19-2009, 03:00 PM
Just got my call! I'm processing out of WFO and they told me I was continuing in for DC.
They scheduled my medical and fingerprinting for next week
ps- my plane is still hovering over referred for selection
ps- I'm quite surprised I even got the call considering my PFT
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Congrats Brick, why were you worried about your PFT?
brickster720
08-19-2009, 03:04 PM
I didn't do well on pushups or pullups. my situps were on point, and my run was marginal but my upper body strength is lacking.
I got a personal trainer just before the PFT (late july) and have been working with him, so I'm hoping I will be much better before I report to anywhere
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:09 PM
Well congrats. I maxed out pullups, pushups and situps but my run was in the poor section. I got the face to face with the SAC but I don't know if my LEO and 4 yr degree background are good enough for a call.
brickster720
08-19-2009, 03:10 PM
btw, sorry in advance to people that got the thanks but no thanks and did DIESEL on their PFT. I'm not a minority candidate or a female either. I'm a middle class white male. Just airing it out there
formerfed
08-19-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm a minority, female, handicapped, disabled veteran, PHD, Medal of Honor Recipient, current status federal employee, former olympian athlete, Gold cup Marksman, and not bad looking. Guess I will get this job without fail.
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:18 PM
Congrats! What was your Olympic event?
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 03:19 PM
No need to apologize brick.
Congrats on the call!
Still waiting... :confused:
formerfed
08-19-2009, 03:20 PM
10m Living Room Couch Hurdle
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:21 PM
nice. I silvered in the 12 oz curls (Masters Division)
cduke1
08-19-2009, 03:22 PM
Congrats! What was your Olympic event?
I think he was being sarcastic.
formerfed
08-19-2009, 03:23 PM
I was censored and unable to compete due to using 40 oz performance enhancing bottles.
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:26 PM
They have a intermediate division that uses 22 ouncers but I hear they do strange and reprehensible things after a long workout lol
formerfed
08-19-2009, 03:27 PM
I think he was being sarcastic.
Could be a possibility..
danthony
08-19-2009, 03:27 PM
I think he was being sarcastic.
So was I
I want my phone to ring....I had someone call from an unknown number and it was the wrong number. =(
Oh no, that's the worst! haha.
Ive asked HR to change my # numerous times and they haven't... so now I'm forced to hang around my work phone 24/7. Every call I get I answer on the first ring and nothing yet. ahhhh! :)
cuyler2281
08-19-2009, 03:33 PM
I finished my sf86 yesturday and just did my fingerprints at the airport this morning. My medical is scheduled for aug 28 in NYC. Can't wait to get a final offer!!!!
Winglet... See, I told you that you were good!!!!! I'll see you in NYFO.
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 03:45 PM
Oh no, that's the worst! haha.
Ive asked HR to change my # numerous times and they haven't... so now I'm forced to hang around my work phone 24/7. Every call I get I answer on the first ring and nothing yet. ahhhh! :)
What # did you call? I called the help desk to change my # and the claim they did it for me without any problem. Now I'm a little concerned it may not have been updated. :(
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 04:06 PM
Yup... thats the # I called as well.
We shall wait and see.
gonefishin
08-19-2009, 04:13 PM
[QUOTE=Spammail.dj;1948751]
Yes, that's what I was told. I thought it was strange also so I asked again and was told that it would unlikely for the full BI to be complete before I leave for a class and that it would be completed before training is finished. I am not sure if a final offer is given before we leave for training or if the BI has to be completed first.
You'll get whats called an Interim TS clearance while they do your background (which they usually start while you are in training). When you will get your actual TS is anyones guess....I waited for over 2 years.
iamjay27
08-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Looks like calls r only going out from nyfo....I put down newark.
Well Newark, NY and couple of otehrs FOs were listed as hiring. Pretty sure that NY and Newark are two major FOs and we should have a good shot in getting into, since most people are unwilling to move to those two high cost of living areas. As least that's my positive thinking logic is telling me! :)
Still no call....really want that phone to ring! I have been staring at my phone for hours, not a healthy sign huh?
formerfed, that was nicley done, very nice indeed.
Bearcat357
08-19-2009, 04:32 PM
When you will get your actual TS is anyones guess....I waited for over 2 years.
And that's actually fairly quick. I know some folks that were going on 3-4 years without it being finally adjudicated.... before they got it taken care of....
Crap....I've got a TS and had issues getting into DHS/TSA/FEMA facilities because they do their own thing and won't take anyone elses.....:rolleyes:
Still no call....really want that phone to ring! I have been staring at my phone for hours, not a healthy sign huh?
I wouldn't take not getting a call as a bad thing... yet. At least that is my personal (trying to stay positive) thinking.:o
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 04:42 PM
I wouldn't take not getting a call as a bad thing... yet. At least that is my personal (trying to stay positive) thinking.:o
You and me both... lol
Now if its this time on Friday, then I'm gonna be worried...
williamske
08-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I feel like they r disbursing calls for certain offices on certain days...
This is hilarious to read all. You're like kids that drank a gallon of kool aide on Christmas morning!
echat12
08-19-2009, 05:01 PM
I was starting to think only NYFO was getting calls, but then brickster said he got the call and now I'm worried. I processed out of WFO and don't remember what I put on my application but I have to stay at WFO. Hopefully that's negotiable if I do get a call. I really never thought I would get this job anyway, but this waiting game is going to make it more of a letdown if it doesn't happen. Tomorrow I leave for a camping trip til sunday with no cell coverage so i don't have to think about it. Hopefully I will have a message waiting for me when I get back sunday night!
cduke1
08-19-2009, 05:24 PM
I also couldnt remember what my preferences were so I contacted the FO where I interviewed and he was able to look up my preferences. He told me I put down everywhere vacancies were available. DC, NYC, Newark, LA.......etc. and said I should have a good shot because I am willing to move anywhere.
I guess being single with no kids helps in that regard. Still waiting for the "call". And yes, I love kool-aid!
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 05:29 PM
My co-workers just pulled an @$$ of a prank...
Called my cell from a resticted #, pretending to be from TSA, offering me a job with the Atlanta FO... had me goin for a good 2 minutes, until I hear our dispatcher over my radio, and through my cell phone, then hear whispering "turn your radio off"
Then they all busted out in laughter as Im cussing up a storm...
(Imagine the scene from Anchor Man)
Not how I pictured the final 45 minutes of my shift to go... :mad:
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 05:39 PM
Has anyone received a call for Los Angeles yet? It looks like they are calling in order of duty station. Today must have been DC turn.
DoubleAgent
08-19-2009, 05:40 PM
Aww man - if only they recorded it!
My co-workers just pulled an @$$ of a prank...
Called my cell from a resticted #, pretending to be from TSA, offering me a job with the Atlanta FO... had me goin for a good 2 minutes, until I hear our dispatcher over my radio, and through my cell phone, then hear whispering "turn your radio off"
Then they all busted out in laughter as Im cussing up a storm...
(Imagine the scene from Anchor Man)
Not how I pictured the final 45 minutes of my shift to go... :mad:
Im sorry, but that's hilarious. Shows that the people at your work have a sense of humor and they know you can take it (or they are just plain evil).
Well, ladies and gents, tomorrow is another day. Best of luck to all and congrats to those who did receive a call!
formerfed
08-19-2009, 05:48 PM
I think the use of getting the "Call" is being used incorrectly. Normally it's reserved for when a person gets a final offer. Who on this forum has gotten a job offer and is waiting for a class date?
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 05:52 PM
Oh yeah. Afterwards I laughed too. Just wasnt so funny at 1st, cause I was on the other end of it. Anyone else, Id be in tears laughing as well. :D
Tomorrow is another day.... Hopefully today was NYC, tomorrow is DC and Friday is LA.... Wishfull thinking....
cuyler2281
08-19-2009, 06:02 PM
I think LA, ATL, and Chi-Town have been closed up for some time. The remaining positions are DC, NYC, and Newark.
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 06:15 PM
I think LA, ATL, and Chi-Town have been closed up for some time. The remaining positions are DC, NYC, and Newark.
Oh...I hope to god you are wrong.... Do you have any creditable source or are you just going off of what you read in here?
DaShwstoppahbk
08-19-2009, 06:20 PM
is there a reason they would send u a TO and have you fill out your SF86 and fingerprints and then NOT select you?.....just curious as that is my current position
formerfed
08-19-2009, 06:23 PM
is there a reason they would send u a TO and have you fill out your SF86 and fingerprints and then NOT select you?.....just curious as that is my current position
Bad Credit or a Criminal History.
williamske
08-19-2009, 06:29 PM
The plane was, and still is, hovering over referred for selection.
is there a reason they would send u a TO and have you fill out your SF86 and fingerprints and then NOT select you?.....just curious as that is my current position
A guy I know went through the entire process in 2008 just to be told they had a hiring freeze.
WVU Brubbz
08-19-2009, 06:33 PM
Finally got the call!!! It was out of the WFO. Background and Medical to follow. Good Luck to everyone. I was like everyone else checking my home voicemail constantly.
FAM Hopeful
08-19-2009, 06:36 PM
is there a reason they would send u a TO and have you fill out your SF86 and fingerprints and then NOT select you?.....just curious as that is my current position
iamjay27
08-19-2009, 06:40 PM
My co-workers just pulled an @$$ of a prank...
Called my cell from a resticted #, pretending to be from TSA, offering me a job with the Atlanta FO... had me goin for a good 2 minutes, until I hear our dispatcher over my radio, and through my cell phone, then hear whispering "turn your radio off"
Then they all busted out in laughter as Im cussing up a storm...
(Imagine the scene from Anchor Man)
Not how I pictured the final 45 minutes of my shift to go... :mad:
Dude, that's just FUNNY! and F'ed up at the same time, but hey it broke the tension for the 20 mins that you all were laughing. Man, really hope that I get a call....
iamjay27
08-19-2009, 06:42 PM
I wouldn't take not getting a call as a bad thing... yet. At least that is my personal (trying to stay positive) thinking.:o
Yeah, I am there with you for the positive thinking part.
williamske
08-19-2009, 06:55 PM
Yeah, I am there with you for the positive thinking part.
I guess i am also in this boat :-/
DaShwstoppahbk
08-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Bad Credit or a Criminal History.
well it cant be that b/c your credit and criminal check are done WAY before you even get to the panel interview......any other ideas?
echat12
08-19-2009, 07:30 PM
why don't you ask them?
formerfed
08-19-2009, 07:31 PM
well it cant be that b/c your credit and criminal check are done WAY before you even get to the panel interview......any other ideas?
Call security and ask them.
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 07:40 PM
I called the recruiter office in DC on Monday to ask about the phone calls. I was told that they were "trying" to fill NYC. NJ. DC. and
LA.
Like I've said before. Anything can change daily. But I was told that over the phone on the 17th.
FAM Hopeful
08-19-2009, 07:56 PM
well it cant be that b/c your credit and criminal check are done WAY before you even get to the panel interview......any other ideas?
Cman21
08-19-2009, 08:26 PM
How is the medical done? Do you just receive an evaluation from one of the G's doctors or do they, meaning an investigator, gather an applicants medical history from the apps own doctor as well?
FAM Hopeful
08-19-2009, 08:35 PM
How is the medical done? Do you just receive an evaluation from one of the G's doctors or do they, meaning an investigator, gather an applicants medical history from the apps own doctor as well?
formerfed
08-19-2009, 08:37 PM
How is the medical done? Do you just receive an evaluation from one of the G's doctors or do they, meaning an investigator, gather an applicants medical history from the apps own doctor as well?
You fill out some medical history paperwork and do the required tests to include a physical with a doctor at the federal health clinic. I suppose they could check your health records from the past as you do fill out a release with your SF86. I would would suggest that you disclose all the information they ask, because if they find out you lied you will be terminated.
Spammail.dj
08-19-2009, 08:38 PM
I called the recruiter office in DC on Monday to ask about the phone calls. I was told that they were "trying" to fill NYC. NJ. DC. and
LA.
Like I've said before. Anything can change daily. But I was told that over the phone on the 17th.
Meaning that they are still filling seats for the LA office? Again, is anyone here waiting or received a call for the LA office? Am I the only one on this forum waiting for LA to call?
Blind Justice
08-19-2009, 08:54 PM
Meaning that they are still filling seats for the LA office? Again, is anyone here waiting or received a call for the LA office? Am I the only one on this forum waiting for LA to call?
I'm trying for LA as well. Its my ticket back home.
champs9399
08-19-2009, 10:11 PM
Any ideas then, on what happens for someone who put a FO as a first choice that they are not hiring for anymore? Would they just skip over me for someone who did put NY or DC as a first choice or would they still offer me a spot in NY or DC? I put ATL on my application back in February when I applied and did my interview/PT at the Atlanta office, figured they were still hiring people there.
MPDCjock
08-20-2009, 02:18 AM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of field offices?
Do they give you a choice of what FO you want to go to?
usmcvet
08-20-2009, 04:24 AM
New to the forum, but I have the same timeline as everyone on here. I got the call today for NYFO. Everybody don't stress yourself out, the call will come.
Good luck to all!
Did you process out of the NYFO?
Has anybody here process out of the NYFO?
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 07:58 AM
Well... Another day has begun... And I cant get the damn jepordy theme song out of my head... Good luck guys! Heres hoping that DC & LA calls go out today. :)
I'm right there with you Blind Justice, although I wouldn't mind NYC at all. :o
Best of luck today!
cduke1
08-20-2009, 08:39 AM
Im right there with you two, Blind and Helo. I prayed real hard last night. Hoping for that call today.
williamske
08-20-2009, 08:42 AM
................... :-/
cduke, how'd you do on PII w/ the FBI? I have mine coming up here in a month. (did you complete the PFT, too?)
cduke1
08-20-2009, 08:48 AM
I havent had it yet. I was just notified last month I would have it on the 15th of Sep. Wondering how thats gonna go! The first time around I was alternate and then a week later I got an email telling me I was invited.
danthony
08-20-2009, 08:59 AM
cduke, how'd you do on PII w/ the FBI? I have mine coming up here in a month. (did you complete the PFT, too?)
I did my Phase 2 back in April and was notified that I passed pretty quickly. An injury postponed my PFT but thats set for next month. Good luck
I havent had it yet. I was just notified last month I would have it on the 15th of Sep. Wondering how thats gonna go! The first time around I was alternate and then a week later I got an email telling me I was invited.
That's when I'll be testing as well! Congrats on making the step up from alternate. That's good news! I'm a little concerned about it, but more concerned about the ridiculous PFT ~10 days later. whew.
I did my Phase 2 back in April and was notified that I passed pretty quickly. An injury postponed my PFT but thats set for next month. Good luck
Awesome! Best of luck on that!
DoubleAgent
08-20-2009, 09:23 AM
Good luck on the Polygraph!
I think the use of getting the "Call" is being used incorrectly. Normally it's reserved for when a person gets a final offer. Who on this forum has gotten a job offer and is waiting for a class date?
Exactly, it's not over, till it's over....
danthony
08-20-2009, 09:43 AM
I just got "the Call" or whatever you wanna refer to it as. Took my PT/Panel/SAC on 8/10 and got offered DC today. He said that it will be a whirlwind from here on out.....buckle up!
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 09:52 AM
I just got "the Call" or whatever you wanna refer to it as. Took my PT/Panel/SAC on 8/10 and got offered DC today. He said that it will be a whirlwind from here on out.....buckle up!
Congrats Danthony! Did you request DC on your app?
Im starting to loose a little faith with every hour that passes... Just wait and see. I sure hope the boys in DC have my correct phone number... :confused:
formerfed
08-20-2009, 10:04 AM
Does anybody have a class date for september?
DoubleAgent
08-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Have any Newark calls gone out?
danthony
08-20-2009, 10:10 AM
Congrats Danthony! Did you request DC on your app?
Im starting to loose a little faith with every hour that passes... Just wait and see. I sure hope the boys in DC have my correct phone number... :confused:
To be honest, I don't remember but it was probably each East Coast office. When I had my SAC interview I did specify NYC or DC.
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 10:14 AM
Does anybody have a class date for september?
Somebody posted a while back that they were in an Aug class, but it was pushed back to Sept 26.
williamske
08-20-2009, 10:33 AM
Have any Newark calls gone out?
I did not see any newark calls yet. I am waiting for newark...took panel/pt/sac on 8/7. Referred for selection.
Weapon X
08-20-2009, 10:39 AM
Yeah I did my PT and Interviews back in early Aug. too and haven't gotten a Newark call yet. Still referred for selection. Hopefully soon. Looking forward to meeting you guys from NJ
cduke1
08-20-2009, 10:40 AM
Still waiting..............This really sucks a big one. Ring already!
Still waiting..............This really sucks a big one. Ring already!
Same. Here. Ugh. :o
I had my panel and fitness, 7/27 and 7/28, respectively.
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Yup... its official..... gonna be the longest 3 days of my life... LOL
Atleast we've got a nice little support group here. :D
Spammail.dj
08-20-2009, 11:40 AM
Yup... its official..... gonna be the longest 3 days of my life... LOL
Atleast we've got a nice little support group here. :D
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Come everyone, sing with me!
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Good luck to everyone in the "Waiting for LA to Call" support group.
Yup... its official..... gonna be the longest 3 days of my life... LOL
Atleast we've got a nice little support group here. :D
It's not even noon yet EST. You've got at least 4 good hours...
Yup... its official..... gonna be the longest 3 days of my life... LOL
Atleast we've got a nice little support group here. :D
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Come everyone, sing with me!
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Good luck to everyone in the "Waiting for LA to Call" support group.
It's not even noon yet EST. You've got at least 4 good hours...
Man, this is cracking me up... or freaking me out. However you choose to look at it. :D
I'm singing along with you Spam, although I'll take a call to ANY location!
Anyone?
Bueller?
dshoes60031
08-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Is anyone here out of the Chicago Office or Illinois Office. I am referred for Selection and waiting.
I completed:
Background/Credit
SAC interview
Panel Interview
PT TEST. Excellent, Good, Fair, Fair
Bachelor and Masters Degree
Black Minority
Worked Security With PERC Card for 6 years..
Hope we all get a chance to serve and protect. Stay positive.. Chicago!!
hk7777
08-20-2009, 11:55 AM
I'm in the same boat, referred for selection....
Hopefully the call will come soon. I'm hoping for the DC office.
dshoes60031
08-20-2009, 11:57 AM
I was hoping for chicago office but the SAC told me that office was closed. So now I rather have DC... Cost of living is cheaper and could find a better deal for apartments than NY or LA
I just got a voicemail, my stupid phone didnt even ring!! It was FAMS! Returning the call now
Weapon X
08-20-2009, 12:20 PM
HELO are you waiting on Newark??
I had to leave a voicemail. dangit!
I originally had Colorado or Texas and then at my interview they inquired about that since they weren't open. I just told them to change it to anywhere, period.
usmc00
08-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Congrats to all of u who got the call. Ive been around these forums a while now but never posted. I went through the whole process too and passed everything. No call yet but it doesn't look too good for me. I was told I was #3 on the pt test and I was referred. Now my dashboard says x over reffered for selection, dated 8/18. I am also a 10 pt combat vet. On the dash I have another vacancy announcement for fam 011. Anyone else have this? Please excuse my punctuations, I'm typing on my phone.
usmc00
08-20-2009, 12:34 PM
Oh, and I'm quite upset about it. Maybe it's because I am married with a 1 year old. I dunno. :(
seanjohn
08-20-2009, 12:45 PM
I had to leave a voicemail. dangit!
I originally had Colorado or Texas and then at my interview they inquired about that since they weren't open. I just told them to change it to anywhere, period.
Have you heard back from them, yet? what office contacted you?
by the way, Congrats!
FAM Hopeful
08-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Congrats to all of u who got the call. Ive been around these forums a while now but never posted. I went through the whole process too and passed everything. No call yet but it doesn't look too good for me. I was told I was #3 on the pt test and I was referred. Now my dashboard says x over reffered for selection, dated 8/18. I am also a 10 pt combat vet. On the dash I have another vacancy announcement for fam 011. Anyone else have this? Please excuse my punctuations, I'm typing on my phone.
.
usmc00
08-20-2009, 12:54 PM
I just don't get it. I did everything I was supposed to do and did it well. I just want to know the reason I wasn't selected. I guess 10 pt pref. Did nothing as well. I would feel better knowing why.
I just don't get it. I did everything I was supposed to do and did it well. I just want to know the reason I wasn't selected. I guess 10 pt pref. Did nothing as well. I would feel better knowing why.
Don't spend too much time thinking about it. It's probably something that happened in the interview. It's so subjective. You might interview in front of another panel or review panel that didn't like you for whatever reason.
Your best bet is to just keep trying. I hear another announcement is coming out in Jan '10.
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 01:05 PM
The call was for DC!
Congrats HELO!
I checked my voice mail in hopes I had one as well... no luck. LOL
only 11 more hours of calls... :D
FAM Hopeful
08-20-2009, 01:13 PM
I just don't get it. I did everything I was supposed to do and did it well. I just want to know the reason I wasn't selected. I guess 10 pt pref. Did nothing as well. I would feel better knowing why.
usmc00
08-20-2009, 01:19 PM
I guess so. Everything seemed to b going so good. I passed everything and met with the asac. I was told I was reffered for selection. I understand, my wife on the other hand, doesn't get it. I will have to keep my head up and keep truckin I guess. Congrats to everyone who made it! Good luck!
ThanAgain
08-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Maybe today is DC/NJ and tomorrow is NJ/LA?
iamjay27
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Have any Newark calls gone out?
Not that I could see, I am shooting for Newark too and still waiting for a call....who knows maybe tomorrow is the day.
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 01:37 PM
Maybe today is DC/NJ and tomorrow is NJ/LA?
Thats how I'm justifying it in my mind....
ThanAgain
08-20-2009, 01:38 PM
well good luck everyone, hope for the best!
champs9399
08-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Just got my Call!!!! Washington DC FO!! Told me to come in for a medical on Monday or Tuesday next week!!
iamjay27
08-20-2009, 01:44 PM
Thats how I'm justifying it in my mind....
Hahahah! That works for me too! Hahahaha! So anyone else singing along with the support group??
usmc00: don't worry about it man, i know how it feels. When I didn't pase Phase II for the FBI, I felt the same way too. Just don't dewell on it, you just have to look at it as it wasn't meant to be and the time just isn't right yet. With all of these job applications it all about the numbering game too sometimes, you will get your day. Just keep going!
Glad to have you guys around for support! Congrats Helo!
danthony
08-20-2009, 01:45 PM
Good Job. Seems like alot of us for DC. He asked if I wanted to take my medical in my home state or fly to DC.....hmmmmm, let me think about it. Here of course!
FAM Hopeful
08-20-2009, 01:50 PM
I guess so. Everything seemed to b going so good. I passed everything and met with the asac. I was told I was reffered for selection. I understand, my wife on the other hand, doesn't get it. I will have to keep my head up and keep truckin I guess. Congrats to everyone who made it! Good luck!
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Just got my Call!!!! Washington DC FO!! Told me to come in for a medical on Monday or Tuesday next week!!
Congrats! DC seems to be the FO of choice today....
Guess tomorrow Im either Cali bound, or staying put in Atlanta...
Spammail.dj
08-20-2009, 02:05 PM
Congrats! DC seems to be the FO of choice today....
Guess tomorrow Im either Cali bound, or staying put in Atlanta...
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya....!
Grover77
08-20-2009, 02:28 PM
No kidding, I'm right with you! Still have the ol' plane hovering over referred for selection but no call as of yet. Echo comments of congrats to those who were contacted, and good luck to all still waiting in the "support group".
Blind Justice
08-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya....!
Sing it brother, sing it !!!
Where in Cali are ya?
cduke1
08-20-2009, 02:34 PM
Congrats Helo!
Now me and Blind need to to get a call. Im about to pull out my fingernails!
williamske
08-20-2009, 02:41 PM
Fml............
cduke1
08-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Congrats to all of u who got the call. Ive been around these forums a while now but never posted. I went through the whole process too and passed everything. No call yet but it doesn't look too good for me. I was told I was #3 on the pt test and I was referred. Now my dashboard says x over reffered for selection, dated 8/18. I am also a 10 pt combat vet. On the dash I have another vacancy announcement for fam 011. Anyone else have this? Please excuse my punctuations, I'm typing on my phone.
I hate to bring up someone else's misfortune, but maybe this is a good sign for the rest of us. If his dashboard was updated on the 18th, and he recieved a red "X", maybe the rest of us who are still green means we got selected and just havent been contacted yet.
And sorry USMC, as a fellow vet I know how frustrating this process is especially when everyone always tells you that your vet points will help you alot. And the truth is alot of times they dont.
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