Air Marshal Job Open !

[SD5326]

Psycho,

Heard anything this week?
SD

[psycho1000r]

Psycho,

Heard anything this week?
SD


no :( not yet. im gonna call avue tommorrow.

[SD5326]

Let me know what you hear.
THNX
SD

[LDIMATTI]

still waiting to be contacted for my Medical, its been almost 3weeks since my psychological interview... I called AVUE a few days ago, they couldnt give me any good info, on when I would be contacted for the medical or PT test.... anyone else waiting or been contacted?

[LDIMATTI]

FYI... I also called my local FO.... left message for FAMS Supervisor.... 2 days ago... still nothing...

[CincyCop]

Is there an age cap for FAM? I thought all federal agencies required age 37 or less. I am 41 so I am curious.

-Collin

[scott72]

Air Marshalls caught smuggling cocaine? Wow guys, moral couldn't be lower could it? Why would you want this? yuck..

[0351]

Is there an age cap for FAM? I thought all federal agencies required age 37 or less. I am 41 so I am curious.

Short answer - Yes, it's 37.

It's a 6(c) position, so you must be able to retire by the mandatory retirement age of 57.

[igneous]

Air Marshalls caught smuggling cocaine? Wow guys, moral couldn't be lower could it? Why would you want this? yuck..
If you want motivation to apply for this job don't look at the delphi forums, there are some miserable FAMS over there.

[CincyCop]

Short answer - Yes, it's 37.

It's a 6(c) position, so you must be able to retire by the mandatory retirement age of 57.

Thanks, 0351.

I'm out of the running.

[0351]

Air Marshalls caught smuggling cocaine? Wow guys, moral couldn't be lower could it? Why would you want this? yuck..
Almost every agency has had its bad apples and its bad publicity.

Igneous, I wouldn't say most of them are really completely miserable, it's just their one place to vent about criticisms of the job and the agency. You don't see many people starting threads on this or other forums saying "Hi everyone, for the record, I love my job." Not that I'm being overly optimistic or don't think things could change for the better. I'm eagerly anticipating the selection of a new director.

[vicmackey]

vic same thing happenned to me.. USE THE LINK THEY GIVE YOU IN THE EMAIL THEY SENT YOU! cut and paste it. when i used that link and logged in, i got the background investigation promt.


thanks psycho...but alas this did not work. I got a number for them and I will give them a call.

[CG1811]

lots of respect for our FAM brothers and sisters, long hours, time away from home, execellent surveillance skills, good tradecraft, incredible patience and marksmanship - and most importantly THERE IS NO BACK UP - just them.

[SD5326]

no :( not yet. im gonna call avue tommorrow.

Psycho,

Did you ever get a hold of anyone from Avue?
SD

[psycho1000r]

Psycho,

Did you ever get a hold of anyone from Avue?
SD

yeh, basiclally told me the standard crap.. " they'll call when they call " line.

[SD5326]

yeh, basiclally told me the standard crap.. " they'll call when they call " line.




SON OF A ..................!

[igneous]

I just got an email requesting my:
Treating Physician Status Report Form, F3280A
Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form, F3280B
:) I'm very happy to even have heard anything from them past my COE :)

[StevenA]

Is there an age cap for FAM? I thought all federal agencies required age 37 or less. I am 41 so I am curious.

-Collin


I'm 51...and my app is in process..they have already been in my credit report as well. I was asked to see my doctor first to clear up a few things. LOL...My cholesterol is up and now on a crestor regimine. As long as you have some ailements under control, you are good to go. Back to age thing, as long as you are in a Federal LE retirement eligible capacity they will consider your application. Maybe to cover age discrimination criteria(?) But in my case, I'd like to get to interview first so either side is not wasting one anothers time. More FYI...I'm also TSA in Screening force to where they have re-classified us as "Officers." Keep plugging along and don't disqualify yourself in your mind. Let them do all the decisions, you/we just need to apply and let the process take care of itself as quickly or in most cases slowly as possible. I thought I'd be bumped just on the age thing, but it's moving right along and I'm like oooops..not ready yet medically or physically! :o

[SD5326]

I just got an email requesting my:
Treating Physician Status Report Form, F3280A
Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form, F3280B
:) I'm very happy to even have heard anything from them past my COE :)


I received the same email. Good news..... it's been awhile since I heard from these guys. Psycho......I hope you got it too! You and I have about the same timeline.

[igneous]

I received the same email. Good news..... it's been awhile since I heard from these guys. Psycho......I hope you got it too! You and I have about the same timeline.
When did you first apply? I did around the middle of november.

[psycho1000r]

I received the same email. Good news..... it's been awhile since I heard from these guys. Psycho......I hope you got it too! You and I have about the same timeline.


i got it too, now wha?, we have to go to our own doctors and have them fill it out? at our expense? or do we wait, when i called avue I got 2 different asnwers, what r u guys doing?

[igneous]

i got it too, now wha?, we have to go to our own doctors and have them fill it out? at our expense? or do we wait, when i called avue I got 2 different asnwers, what r u guys doing?
From what I understand you are supposed to get it done yourself. But I may be wrong. Another thing I'm not sure about is that I don't have my own doctor. I wonder if I can get this done by a doctor at one of those walk in clinic type doctors? If I don't have to do this on my own it would help me a lot, so let me know if you find out anything.

[psycho1000r]

From what I understand you are supposed to get it done yourself. But I may be wrong. Another thing I'm not sure about is that I don't have my own doctor. I wonder if I can get this done by a doctor at one of those walk in clinic type doctors? If I don't have to do this on my own it would help me a lot, so let me know if you find out anything.

yeh seriously, i dont really have a steady docotor i go to, so am i to assume i just go somewhere and hand them a bunch of paperwork.." here fill this out please" and all those tests dont sound cheap!

[igneous]

yeh seriously, i dont really have a steady docotor i go to, so am i to assume i just go somewhere and hand them a bunch of paperwork.." here fill this out please" and all those tests dont sound cheap!
If you have insurance it should be covered as a checkup I think.

[psycho1000r]

If you have insurance it should be covered as a checkup I think.


so what r u gonna do? try n schedule an appointment? then what? are we supposed to fax anything back? lol sometimes i think there just trying to test how dumb we are!!!

im calling avue AGAIN tommorrow, this is retarded

[igneous]

so what r u gonna do? try n schedule an appointment? then what? are we supposed to fax anything back? lol sometimes i think there just trying to test how dumb we are!!!

im calling avue AGAIN tommorrow, this is retarded
Well the place around here is just a walk-in type place, so I would just bring it there and hope I could get away with just having a co-pay of 10 or 15 bucks.
Read the email, it says you are supposed to get those forms done by your doctor, then call some 866 number to schedule an appointment with the closest FOH clinic. After that part on your email does it say to provide them with your PIN number? mine says that but theres no number after that, it just says $medidnumber
I want to do it tomorrow but Im not going to be around, so I guess I will on wednesday. If you find out something from avue be sure to post it here :)
thanks

[psycho1000r]

Well the place around here is just a walk-in type place, so I would just bring it there and hope I could get away with just having a co-pay of 10 or 15 bucks.
Read the email, it says you are supposed to get those forms done by your doctor, then call some 866 number to schedule an appointment with the closest FOH clinic. After that part on your email does it say to provide them with your PIN number? mine says that but theres no number after that, it just says $medidnumber
I want to do it tomorrow but Im not going to be around, so I guess I will on wednesday. If you find out something from avue be sure to post it here :)
thanks


I DIDNT GET A PHONE NUMBER? hook a brother up :) lemme recheck my page.

no i have nothing about a pin number AT ALL.

[SD5326]

I DIDNT GET A PHONE NUMBER? hook a brother up :) lemme recheck my page.

no i have nothing about a pin number AT ALL.



Psycho,

Be careful bro...... about calling if you don't have the number in your email. To make a long story short....They said do not call if you did not get the number in your email as it could have repercussions (e.g. "thin email") if you did not get the number via email and get it from someone else who did and call anyway.

[igneous]

Psycho,

Be careful bro...... about calling if you don't have the number in your email. To make a long story short....They said do not call if you did not get the number in your email as it could have repercussions (e.g. "thin email") if you did not get the number via email and get it from someone else who did and call anyway.
Yeah I have read that on other forums too. Hey SD, did you go to the doctor yet? I think i'm going to try to go tomorrow. I don't have a full time doctor though, will have to go into a walk-in type of doctor..

[SD5326]

I got my personal physician to fill all of those docs out last time i went to see him.....i'm just waiting to schedule with the foh now.
SD

[igneous]

I got my personal physician to fill all of those docs out last time i went to see him.....i'm just waiting to schedule with the foh now.
SD
Did you call the 866 number in the email or are you waiting to hear from them?

[SD5326]

Yeah I called that # and they said that they would call me back by the end of the week with an appt date.
SD

[psycho1000r]

yes i wouldnt have called unless i got the number, which i finally got today when i checked my email!!!

[LDIMATTI]

Did you get that email today (2/22)... as of yesterday I havent recd anything regarding my medical.... It sucks I cant access my email from work..I'll check it on my lunch break... Do you guys think I should contact AVUE to see what going on?

[psycho1000r]

Did you get that email today (2/22)... as of yesterday I havent recd anything regarding my medical.... It sucks I cant access my email from work..I'll check it on my lunch break... Do you guys think I should contact AVUE to see what going on?


it was dated the 20th, but for some reason i got it today. dont bother calling avue, sometimes i think i know more than they do, but have at it if u want to get more confused, lol.

good luck brother!

[SD5326]

That's good news Psycho well I guess we'll see what happens from here!

[igneous]

I was just reading back on some old posts, have you and psycho both had interviews already?? That email is the only thing I have heard from them since getting my COE. I have had no phone calls or anything with them.

[LDIMATTI]

Still no email from AVUE regarding my medical - I just checked my email....FYI.. I passed my psych interview about 3-4 weeks ago.... BUT avue is weird, they NEVER send all there emails out at one time, usually in bunches over a couple days....

[igneous]

Still no email from AVUE regarding my medical - I just checked my email....FYI.. I passed my psych interview about 3-4 weeks ago.... BUT avue is weird, they NEVER send all there emails out at one time, usually in bunches over a couple days....
Its weird that I have the med email but you don't since I haven't had any interview or contact with them.

[LilBit]

I was contacted on Feb. 6 to schedule my physical fitness test, which I did on Feb. 13. At that time, I was told that HQ was going to be making decisions on their next batch of candidates on Feb. 16. On Feb. 17, I was contacted and offered the job for the DC FO with a training start date of April 14. However, I asked if there was a possibility of going to a later training class as I would only have four weeks of grad school left until I was completely finished, and the person I was speaking with said they would check and call me back. So they called me back this morning and said I'd be able to finish grad school b/c they were now in a hiring freeze! So I asked about the April date they had initially given me and they said that the April starting date was off the table b/c of the freeze, but it looked like they'd start hiring again around July/August.

I mean, geez, do they have to call a bunch of people now and say, "Oops, wait a minute ... forget about that April date we gave you?"

[LDIMATTI]

Just curious what pay band did they offer you? Not sure WHY they would have a hiring fireeze, when they are already short handed....

[SD5326]

I was just reading back on some old posts, have you and psycho both had interviews already?? That email is the only thing I have heard from them since getting my COE. I have had no phone calls or anything with them.



I'm not gonna get into details, but, to make a long story short from what according to psycho posted he has done the interview and so have I. I don't think I ever posted me having done the interview though.
SD

[SD5326]

Still no email from AVUE regarding my medical - I just checked my email....FYI.. I passed my psych interview about 3-4 weeks ago.... BUT avue is weird, they NEVER send all there emails out at one time, usually in bunches over a couple days....


Yeah Bro,
Their flaky like that. I can only assume that they enter names into the database and then the rest is automated. The thing that gets me about them is that they have no way of knowing if there was a glitch in the system or not. At least not until you call them and tell them there's something wrong with your app online or you didn't receive an email and have to ask them to send it to you. I think it's all gonna work itself out eventually , as for how long its gonna take.....who knows. :o

[igneous]

I was contacted on Feb. 6 to schedule my physical fitness test, which I did on Feb. 13. At that time, I was told that HQ was going to be making decisions on their next batch of candidates on Feb. 16. On Feb. 17, I was contacted and offered the job for the DC FO with a training start date of April 14. However, I asked if there was a possibility of going to a later training class as I would only have four weeks of grad school left until I was completely finished, and the person I was speaking with said they would check and call me back. So they called me back this morning and said I'd be able to finish grad school b/c they were now in a hiring freeze! So I asked about the April date they had initially given me and they said that the April starting date was off the table b/c of the freeze, but it looked like they'd start hiring again around July/August.

I mean, geez, do they have to call a bunch of people now and say, "Oops, wait a minute ... forget about that April date we gave you?"
damn that would suck, I'm just starting my medical stuff right now..

[psycho1000r]

I'm not gonna get into details, but, to make a long story short from what according to psycho posted he has done the interview and so have I. I don't think I ever posted me having done the interview though.
SD


ding ding ding, you are correct sir :)

its basically one waiting game after another, i sometimes believe it's a test of attrition...

[SD5326]

ding ding ding, you are correct sir :)

its basically one waiting game after another, i sometimes believe it's a test of attrition...


At least we're in this together brother! :)

[manstown]

Just got off the phone with Federal Occupational Health and scheduled my medical. Should get a date for next week. I asked about getting the forms done by my doc, and they didn't think it needed to be done.

[igneous]

Just got off the phone with Federal Occupational Health and scheduled my medical. Should get a date for next week. I asked about getting the forms done by my doc, and they didn't think it needed to be done.
You mean these forms? Treating Physician Status Report Form, F3280A
Physical Exercise Performance Requirements Form, F3280B
I am going to call them today to schedule mine, but I paid 25 bucks this morning to get my forms done by a doctor :(

[intheair]

On 2/10/06 I received a call to take my pta exam that day within a few hours. The call came last minute and I was glad to make it to take the test and get the final phase out of the way. The people at the facility made it seem like things looked good for those taking the test. Long story short I never received any call for the most recent hiring or any call at all for that matter. My scores were excellents except for a good on the run. I thought that there would be more calls going out to applicants that did not make the most recent class but now I read that there is a hiring freeze till july how true is this? I applied back in July and interviewed in August. I have completed all phases as quickly and promptly as directed. Im really hope there ins no hiring freeze.

[SD5326]

Just got off the phone with Federal Occupational Health and scheduled my medical. Should get a date for next week. I asked about getting the forms done by my doc, and they didn't think it needed to be done.


Same here....almost verbatim. I'm gonna go ahead and get the docs done just in case.

[intheair]

P.S. I was also asked to fax in some info on the 10th as well for background I am assuming

[SD5326]

So.......Anyone have any news???? Psycho, Igneous, how's it hangin. I'm bored.

[igneous]

So.......Anyone have any news???? Psycho, Igneous, how's it hangin. I'm bored.
Join the club, I'm bored out of my mind. I called FOH today and they said that I would probably have an appointment some time in march and that they would call me back when it is set up..

[psycho1000r]

So.......Anyone have any news???? Psycho, Igneous, how's it hangin. I'm bored.


i picked up some paper work that was requested from minor surgery i got done a while ago., and got my preactical exercise perf reqiurment forms signed off today.

i called the FOH clinic to set up an appointment so now i wait for the next set. they told me they were shooting for around march 13th.

[SD5326]

LMFAO! We're all in the same boat! I did the same thing today. I didn't call the FOH again today I figure two times in three days is enough. I hope we all get sent to training at the same time. This will be something to laugh at down the road. So they said they're shooting for med exam calls to go out sometime in March?

[igneous]

That would be pretty cool if we all made the same training. I just hope I can get that far, my lack of experience makes me wonder if they will truly be interested in me :(

[SD5326]

Thank positive brother! You have to start somewhere and they know that as well. I don't think they would be dropping the scratch on you to do a med exam unless their intentions were good.

[igneous]

Thank positive brother! You have to start somewhere and they know that as well. I don't think they would be dropping the scratch on you to do a med exam unless their intentions were good.
We can only hope. What FO are you hoping to get? dc or ny? I'm kind of on the fence, as I think I could probably live a little cheaper in DC, but I have a lot of family around NY, and its only a few hours from here..

[SD5326]

Well I haven't decided yet on which FO. I haven't really looked that far ahead. I guess in the end it wouldn't matter which FO they gave me. From what I can tell there are good and bad points to both.

[psycho1000r]

That would be pretty cool if we all made the same training. I just hope I can get that far, my lack of experience makes me wonder if they will truly be interested in me :(


dude, i have no real relavant experience either, except that i work for the TSA/DHS now as a lead TSO, but i really dont consider wanding people or doing pat downs and bag searches very relative to a FAM job, lol. plus my degree is a BS in managment, another unrelated field, so dont worry about that!!

if given the opp. im hoping i can NY since im in PA now and it wouldnt be all that far .

[SD5326]

Psycho,

I don't think you have anything to worry about either. You work for TSA. If you can pass everything, which I'm sure you can, I don't think you'll have problem at all maybe even a little advantage due to being an employee. We're gonna be O.K. if we can make it through all the waiting. ;)

[StevenA]

I'm just chiming in. Called yesterday and was told that nothing earlier then the 13th of March as well. I too am from TSA in checked baggage, 7 years Military as well a long time ago. Pressure is all on me...!!! I'm 51 and I am going through. Applied on a whim and thought it would red flag. I'm in Baltimore area..moved here from NYC back in 2002 as BWI was first to go Federal. Easy ride to NYC by the way...OH..D.C ain't cheap by no means so I'll stay in Maryland where I'm at. $900 and change for 2 bedroom apt. Now, I have not had interview, but they are scheduling for med. Also practicing 1 1/2 run by running 2 miles with hills...man...lol...FYI, they have been in my credit report, I get an alert each time there is activity, and sure enough they are starting to snoop around. see you in "The Land of Enchantment!"

[igneous]

dude, i have no real relavant experience either, except that i work for the TSA/DHS now as a lead TSO, but i really dont consider wanding people or doing pat downs and bag searches very relative to a FAM job, lol. plus my degree is a BS in managment, another unrelated field, so dont worry about that!!

if given the opp. im hoping i can NY since im in PA now and it wouldnt be all that far .
I also have a BS in management, but I think your TSA experience is going to help you. Maybe not with the job itself, but when they had the job opening for TSA employees only it seems like they want to get some of you guys in there. But other then that I'm glad to see someone in similar position as I am :)

[igneous]

I'm just chiming in. Called yesterday and was told that nothing earlier then the 13th of March as well. I too am from TSA in checked baggage, 7 years Military as well a long time ago. Pressure is all on me...!!! I'm 51 and I am going through. Applied on a whim and thought it would red flag. I'm in Baltimore area..moved here from NYC back in 2002 as BWI was first to go Federal. Easy ride to NYC by the way...OH..D.C ain't cheap by no means so I'll stay in Maryland where I'm at. $900 and change for 2 bedroom apt. Now, I have not had interview, but they are scheduling for med. Also practicing 1 1/2 run by running 2 miles with hills...man...lol...FYI, they have been in my credit report, I get an alert each time there is activity, and sure enough they are starting to snoop around. see you in "The Land of Enchantment!"
I thought 37 was the cutoff?

[sco0437]

Yea, its pretty sad they are hiring 50-60 yr old TSA bag checkers, who have never even held a firearm... over young, in shape, 20-30 yr olds with Sworn LEO experience and 4 yr degrees... pretty sad in my opinion..

But hey its government, what do you expect right.. just make sure you keep that heart medication refilled, since you will be traveling 3/4 weeks a month through multiple time zones each day..

[psycho1000r]

Yea, its pretty sad they are hiring 50-60 yr old TSA bag checkers, who have never even held a firearm... over young, in shape, 20-30 yr olds with Sworn LEO experience and 4 yr degrees... pretty sad in my opinion..

But hey its government, what do you expect right.. just make sure you keep that heart medication refilled, since you will be traveling 3/4 weeks a month through multiple time zones each day..


what do u know about his expereince? keep your stupid comments to yourself.... yeh all we need are cocky young A-holes in the air.....

[StevenA]

what do u know about his expereince? keep your stupid comments to yourself.... yeh all we need are cocky young A-holes in the air.....

I dunno...my 2 DD214's reflect Expert in firearms, I wonder what his "4 year degree" mentions on the subject. :confused: If this candidate makes it all the way to Artesia I'd be interested to see his techniques in target aquisition.

[SD5326]

In my line of work (will never divulge on an open forum so don't ask), Ive seen 40-60 yr olds that can wipe up the floor with a young punks" a#$. There is no need to go poppin off like that unless there is some justification for it. This has been a very professional forum since I've been on here and I plan to keep it that way if there's anything I can do about it. .02's like that you can keep to yourself or just find another forum to post your fallacies on. Thanks though.
SD

[StevenA]

That would be pretty cool if we all made the same training. I just hope I can get that far, my lack of experience makes me wonder if they will truly be interested in me :(

OK...first off, you made it through the application round and in the second round of scheduling appointments. So far, they like what they see. Just keep focused on scoring BIG on everything along the way. Just keep doing your part one step at a time. The only thing all of us can do is give it our best.

[SD5326]

I think StevenA summed it up best a few posts back "just keep pluggin away at it" we've got to see light at the end sooner or later.

[vicmackey]

anyone know if a polygraph is ever done in this process. I got nothin to hide, just wondered. I've been hired by three different police forces and never had to take one, just wondered if the marshal's give one.

[CrimInv1811]

No polygraph.

[Shoot N Scoot]

I thought 37 was the cutoff?

I dont know whos spilling out bad info guys, but you "must" be hired before your 37th birthday. Period, no ifs ands or buts. The only exception is if you are already a federal law enforcement officer currently under the 6C retirement, and sorry TSA screeners are not.

The reason for this isnt age discrimination it is a congress mandated age for the Federal Law Enforcement retirement. Right after 9-11 in the origional hiring process, congress passed a law raising the age to 40, but that has passed.

Some folks think military time counts, or federal employment time counts, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it dosent.

Good luck to ya'al in your process and we could sure use the bodies.

[igneous]

I dont know whos spilling out bad info guys, but you "must" be hired before your 37th birthday. Period, no ifs ands or buts. The only exception is if you are already a federal law enforcement officer currently under the 6C retirement, and sorry TSA screeners are not.
The reason for this isnt age discrimination it is a congress mandated age for the Federal Law Enforcement retirement. Right after 9-11 in the origional hiring process, congress passed a law raising the age to 40, but that has passed.
Some folks hink military time counts, or federal employment time counts, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it dosent.
Good luck to ya'al in your process and we could sure use the bodies.
Yeah thats what I thought I had read, but why have they let StevenA get atleast part way through the process?

[Shoot N Scoot]

I do not know. I can only guess. There is a possiblity that on his application he checked the box about previous covered position or a simple snafu at OPM/HR. I just hate to see folks get their hopes up only to get them dashed. If I were StevenA I would make a call to HR and ask specifically about the age.

[StevenA]

I do not know. I can only guess. There is a possiblity that on his application he checked the box about previous covered position or a simple snafu at OPM/HR. I just hate to see folks get their hopes up only to get them dashed. If I were StevenA I would make a call to HR and ask specifically about the age.

Here is what happened...they reclassified us at TSA from the 1900 series to the 1801 series, no longer "Screeners" change is to Transportation Security Officers. There has been a whole different announcement just for TSA.

I look at it this way, if I'm in, I'm in. If not, hey no sweat. Being with the Government nearly 11 years now, I'm happy to serve in my capacity as well.

[StevenA]

OH, and if they are jerking me, it would be nice to know now :-)

[0351]

OH, and if they are jerking me, it would be nice to know now :-)
if you look at older posts on this forum or others, people made it to interviews with Avue having their age wrong and having them down as being much older than the cutoff. They would not have been able to receive an actual job offer (not COE) if they were that old. If you can't get in touch with FAMS HR, then contact OPM.
Like Shoot N Scoot I just don't want you to get false hope or waste any time on this. Even if you could buy back all of your military service and if your TSA time was 6(c), which it's not even though the position is now 1802, I don't believe you would be able to retire in 6 years. So I'm sorry, I just don't see it happening, but by all means keep up with working on your physical fitness.

[SD5326]

I'm 51...and my app is in process..they have already been in my credit report as well. I was asked to see my doctor first to clear up a few things. LOL...My cholesterol is up and now on a crestor regimine. As long as you have some ailements under control, you are good to go. Back to age thing, as long as you are in a Federal LE retirement eligible capacity they will consider your application. Maybe to cover age discrimination criteria(?) But in my case, I'd like to get to interview first so either side is not wasting one anothers time. More FYI...I'm also TSA in Screening force to where they have re-classified us as "Officers." Keep plugging along and don't disqualify yourself in your mind. Let them do all the decisions, you/we just need to apply and let the process take care of itself as quickly or in most cases slowly as possible. I thought I'd be bumped just on the age thing, but it's moving right along and I'm like oooops..not ready yet medically or physically! :o


Yes,

I'm aware of the whole age thing when it comes to FLE (6C), but, as StevenA said earlier (ABOVE) and this is why I am defending him. I realize he is an 1802, but an 1802 with the TSA might have some stipulations we don't know about especially if what he was told above is true. In all other cases I totally agree though. If your not in a covered position by age 37, it's not gonna happen for the most part. I'd just hate to see someone stop with the app just because someone on this forum told him to stop and then find out later thast he was eligible. Like 0351 stated earlier, just give HR (I don't have the number) a call and see what's going on, and yes.... reading archived posts about others process through this position will greaatly enhance your knowledge on the subject.

SD

[StevenA]

if you look at older posts on this forum or others, people made it to interviews with Avue having their age wrong and having them down as being much older than the cutoff. They would not have been able to receive an actual job offer (not COE) if they were that old. If you can't get in touch with FAMS HR, then contact OPM.
Like Shoot N Scoot I just don't want you to get false hope or waste any time on this. Even if you could buy back all of your military service and if your TSA time was 6(c), which it's not even though the position is now 1802, I don't believe you would be able to retire in 6 years. So I'm sorry, I just don't see it happening, but by all means keep up with working on your physical fitness.

This could get comical...how in the world do they not have birth years written into their software for red flag items? I type in FAMS here in the search menu and...lo' FAMS is highlighted in red. Or...I could make History and be the oldest Honor Grad in FLETC! I'll have to find a number and give a call in morning. Ya gotta love it, administratively, the gov't is lost!

I was hoping to get to interview first to at least ask them not to waste any of our time if this was going to disqualify. Like I mentioned a few posts ago, I applied on a whim.

By the way, I'm 16 situps shy to score 46 and and 6 push-ups shy of 54. pull ups are cake...I'm doing 15 already. Now to get my run down to 10:18 from 13:00 Oh, these scores are excellent for 26-29 year olds I believe. I know, I know, it's a reetirement thing...hmmmm...6 years huh?

[Love_Ulcer]

In anyone applying out of California?

[vicmackey]

I am filling out the BI right now. I have been asked to send back two medical release forms. Where are these located. Do they appear when you finish the BI? I see a medical questionaire, but that looks as if it is to be filled out on the computer.

[SD5326]

I am filling out the BI right now. I have been asked to send back two medical release forms. Where are these located. Do they appear when you finish the BI? I see a medical questionaire, but that looks as if it is to be filled out on the computer.


Yes,

Once you certify the background you should get an automted email shortly thereafter. It will have the link to the two forms.


Sorry, had to edit but as soon as I signed off my cell rang and it was the people to schedule the Med Exam. I'll be going next Friday March 10.......All right it looks like we're moving along a lttle further. I hope my fellow frequent posters got the call to schedule as well. I'd give them (FOH) a ring just to follow up in the a.m. if that is not the case.
SD

[igneous]

No call for me today, but I did miss a couple calls according to my phone, so its possible it was them. The number didnt show up on caller id though..

[igneous]

I just got an email from avue with my PIN number for FOH. The original email didnt have an actual number in there. I guess I'll have to call FOH in the morning to clear this up..

[StevenA]

Yes,

Once you certify the background you should get an automted email shortly thereafter. It will have the link to the two forms.


Sorry, had to edit but as soon as I signed off my cell rang and it was the people to schedule the Med Exam. I'll be going next Friday March 10.......All right it looks like we're moving along a lttle further. I hope my fellow frequent posters got the call to schedule as well. I'd give them (FOH) a ring just to follow up in the a.m. if that is not the case.
SD

Uh...yeah, it's me "The Old Timer." My appointment is on the 8th. Would you believe just 2 miles down the road to me? Just got the e-mail with ID# but I had already given it to them on Friday when I called them. That number is on most of the forms we've been fiiling out from Avue.

I've got to follow this all the way through regardless.

[igneous]

Uh...yeah, it's me "The Old Timer." My appointment is on the 8th. Would you believe just 2 miles down the road to me? Just got the e-mail with ID# but I had already given it to them on Friday when I called them. That number is on most of the forms we've been fiiling out from Avue.

I've got to follow this all the way through regardless.
You might as well, it'll take some of your own time and money, but in the end the worst thing they could say is no.

[StevenA]

You might as well, it'll take some of your own time and money, but in the end the worst thing they could say is no.


I just don't see how they could overlook my age, it's plastered all over every thing. I'll be retired before I get my feet wet. My doc is a 10 dollar co pay so nothing of great loss there...see hime on Monday next week to plug in info on those forms. Now on the PEP, my doc has to make those assesments?

[igneous]

I just don't see how they could overlook my age, it's plastered all over every thing. I'll be retired before I get my feet wet. My doc is a 10 dollar co pay so nothing of great loss there...see hime on Monday next week to plug in info on those forms. Now on the PEP, my doc has to make those assesments?
I agree. You would think that it would automatically stop the process based on your age if there was a problem. And if the system couldn't Im sure someone there that is going through the apps would have seen it as well. Yeah your doctor has to make the assesment, but all my doctor did was basic physical type stuff..

[Shoot N Scoot]

The transfer from screener to 1802 was to give the uniformed TSA folks the three years of law enforcement required to apply. However it does not lower the age. As for military time, it gets added on after you retire, trust me I wish it would go off the front side, as I'd be gone, but unfortunatly its all added on the back side.

Spoke to our local HR folks who emailed up and found that the age is 37 is 37 is 37. Sorry guys.

[SD5326]

Uh...yeah, it's me "The Old Timer." My appointment is on the 8th. Would you believe just 2 miles down the road to me? Just got the e-mail with ID# but I had already given it to them on Friday when I called them. That number is on most of the forms we've been fiiling out from Avue.

I've got to follow this all the way through regardless.


Dude, I would just go with it...........as long as their still scheduling you for the items involved in the process. I just wouldn't be ****ed if you get all the way to the end and then they say oh...... I didn't even look at your age, sorry man. You gotta mentally prepare yourself for something like that to happen at the end of this emotional roller coaster.

[Love_Ulcer]

March 7th for medical here also. When do you guys suppose we'll actually get the call? I hope we'll get some info soon because I gotta decide really soon whether to drop my classes before I get an F for dropping them too late. :(

[intheair]

To you guys that are moving through the medical portion. I hope you getthe call soon. I completed that portion of the process back in september and I am still waiting for "the call". I just recently finished my PTA in the beginning of feb. So I hope to be getting that call very soon but you never know.

Is there anyone out there in my situation of having completed all steps and waiting.

[igneous]

March 7th for medical here also. When do you guys suppose we'll actually get the call? I hope we'll get some info soon because I gotta decide really soon whether to drop my classes before I get an F for dropping them too late. :(
Honestly I wouldn't drop them thinking that you will get in before may, or whenever your semester ends. Someone on the last page said that there might be a hiring freeze, and if you think about how long the gov. normally takes to hire, it very well may be May atleast before another class starts. I could be wrong though.

[intheair]

Dont drop the class if your process is anything like mine you have a long way to go. Just go on doing what you are doing.

[vicmackey]

Yes,

Once you certify the background you should get an automted email shortly thereafter. It will have the link to the two forms.


Sorry, had to edit but as soon as I signed off my cell rang and it was the people to schedule the Med Exam. I'll be going next Friday March 10.......All right it looks like we're moving along a lttle further. I hope my fellow frequent posters got the call to schedule as well. I'd give them (FOH) a ring just to follow up in the a.m. if that is not the case.
SD

Thanks SD...this is a hell of a process.

[SD5326]

No worries Vic. If you need anything else just ask.
SD

[Shoot N Scoot]

For those of you applying on, I sure hope you like NYC or DC alot. LOL.

[Threex]

Intheair, Im in the same boat as you. I finished my pta on feb 8th. I know they hired one from my group of 3 for NYC. (starts 3/6) Hoping something happens with me, but who knows.

[MarcDominic]

Hey guys, just wanna say hello, new to the board here. I just applied too. Just faxed those 2 forms in today. Now that's all I have to do until they call me, right? Those other forms to be filled out by my doctor I don't need until I go for my medical, correct?

I really hope I make it through the process and my past drug experimentation in high school and college doesn't kill me.

[igneous]

Hey guys, just wanna say hello, new to the board here. I just applied too. Just faxed those 2 forms in today. Now that's all I have to do until they call me, right? Those other forms to be filled out by my doctor I don't need until I go for my medical, correct?

I really hope I make it through the process and my past drug experimentation in high school and college doesn't kill me.
Yeah, I heard you don't even need those forms when you get your med, but I got them done anyway. Don't bother getting them til you get the email requesting them though.

[intheair]

You more than likely will need those forms if and when someone calls to confirm your medical by the FAMS Dr. This is much later in the process well after the initial physical.

[intheair]

Intheair, Im in the same boat as you. I finished my pta on feb 8th. I know they hired one from my group of 3 for NYC. (starts 3/6) Hoping something happens with me, but who knows.

ThreeX is that a start date for FLETC of 3/6. I hope another round of calls goes out soon I am going on my 9th month as Im sure you are. How were your scores for the PTA?

Nice to hear and read from someone as far along in the process as myself.. Good luck and keep me posted as I will do the same.

[MarcDominic]

So has anyone here made it all the way through the process and scheduled to go to training? Sorry, I just couldn't make it through all 25 pages of this thread.

[manstown]

You more than likely will need those forms if and when someone calls to confirm your medical by the FAMS Dr. This is much later in the process well after the initial physical.

Talked to the people at FOH, and they told me that I didn't need the forms from my doctor unless you have had some sort of surgery or mediocre illness'. I am going next week and I was told not to worry about them.

[MarcDominic]

Talked to the people at FOH, and they told me that I didn't need the forms from my doctor unless you have had some sort of surgery or mediocre illness'. I am going next week and I was told not to worry about them.

Well I also have to get something filled out by my doctor b/c of admitted drug use. :(

[MarcDominic]

I have another question. Have they ever left a message with you guys? The phone number I put on all my info is my dad's private line and goes straight to the answering machine. He doesn't really like me giving out the house number.

[igneous]

I have another question. Have they ever left a message with you guys? The phone number I put on all my info is my dad's private line and goes straight to the answering machine. He doesn't really like me giving out the house number.
Even to the government? That seems kind of paranoid. I haven't gotten any messages yet, but all of my contact has either been through avue, email, or me calling foh.

[Threex]

Roger Intheair, that date was a fo start date not fletc. I also know of one that was picked for NY very quickly after we took the tests back in August. (around October was his start date). It seems there is no real reasoning for their hiring decisions, although i have been noticing all those who i know that get the call have been single and younger than myself (28) Im not sure about the college degrees, however.

[intheair]

A 29 yr old that I took the pta with was called the day of the pta to start in the nyfo not sure of the date but I thought it was 2/21 maybe they pushed the start date back to first week of march. I have not heard or read anything that would suggest anymore calls have been going out for those all completed. I just go by when I get a call and further instructions. Never talked to FAM HQ and avue mechanically spits out the same answers as Im sure you know.

[igneous]

I got my call for my physical, its on March 13. Always happy to be moving on to the next step. :)

[psycho1000r]

I got my call for my physical, its on March 13. Always happy to be moving on to the next step. :)


im still waiting, i live in bummble**** , so they said they were trying to locate a facility near me, but they'll get back to me ASAP

[MarcDominic]

Even to the government? That seems kind of paranoid. I haven't gotten any messages yet, but all of my contact has either been through avue, email, or me calling foh.

Ok, I just updated my app to include my cell phone number. Now my old app is inactive and the new one is active. I hope that doesn't mean I have to fax my forms in again. Just wondering, how long after you guys faxed those forms in did you get a call to schedule a physical? The one e-mail says to schedule a physical once those other medical forms are filled out by my doc and mentions nothing about waiting for contact from them first.

P.S. Good luck to all

[manstown]

Ok, I just updated my app to include my cell phone number. Now my old app is inactive and the new one is active. I hope that doesn't mean I have to fax my forms in again. Just wondering, how long after you guys faxed those forms in did you get a call to schedule a physical? The one e-mail says to schedule a physical once those other medical forms are filled out by my doc and mentions nothing about waiting for contact from them first.

P.S. Good luck to all

It depended on when you applied. If you just applied.....I would say you should get a call for the medical sometime this summer. I was just scheduled for the medical and I had been waiting to hear since October 1. The process is slowing down a bit.

[igneous]

It depended on when you applied. If you just applied.....I would say you should get a call for the medical sometime this summer. I was just scheduled for the medical and I had been waiting to hear since October 1. The process is slowing down a bit.
Yeah, I applied mid november, and just now got request for the med stuff, so it could be a short period of time, but it could also be a lot longer, there is really no way to find out. I'd say just put it in the back of your mind, get/stay in shape, and continue your life like you never applied. This is nothing compared to other fed jobs, especially 1811 type jobs..

[igneous]

For those of you who have noticed the looked into your credit what did they show up as? I only have one recent inquiry, and I can't think of what else it could be. It says UNIVERSAL CREDIT SVCS, and thats all I know..

[StevenA]

For those of you who have noticed the looked into your credit what did they show up as? I only have one recent inquiry, and I can't think of what else it could be. It says UNIVERSAL CREDIT SVCS, and thats all I know..

Universal Credit is the one. I checked their website, they do background investigations.

[igneous]

Universal Credit is the one. I checked their website, they do background investigations.
Nice, I guess thats a good sign too, my credit is surprisingly good for a younger guy.. :)

[signal1]

Ok, I tried to read all 25 pages, but though I don't have that much of a life, I did not have time to read all of it. :) Sorry!

For any past or present FAM's, I have a question. I have my wife's approval and backing to apply. But before I get into all of this I want to give you a short background of myself so you can tell me if I should apply or if I am waisting my time.

I was a full time Cop in a town of 15,000 for 8 years. I was a detective for three of those years and then went back to patrol for a Sergeant position and was a patrol supervisor for three more years. I was also on the Special Services Team (their version of SWAT) for seven years (got on after my first year). I quit and I am back on Active Duty Army (Admin) but I am a former Active Duty Infantry and Army Reserve MP (with one year Miliatary Police Investigations and Special Response Team during a deployment). One other year deployed to Cuba for detainee operations. I am on the Sheriff Reserves for a large agency now that I am back on Active Duty. I ETS in Sept. 2007.

Education is my concern. I don't have my BA yet but I do have my Associates in Criminal Justice. I am back in school in evening classes and working on my Psychology Degree. I have 104 hrs total. That is why I went back to Active Army though because it was the only way I saw that I could finish my education.

Should I apply or is education going to stop me? THANKS!!!

[igneous]

Ok, I tried to read all 25 pages, but though I don't have that much of a life, I did not have time to read all of it. :) Sorry!


Education is my concern. I don't have my BA yet but I do have my Associates in Criminal Justice. I am back in school in evening classes and working on my Psychology Degree. I have 104 hrs total. That is why I went back to Active Army though because it was the only way I saw that I could finish my education.

Should I apply or is education going to stop me? THANKS!!!
Well I have a B.S., but your still a lot more qualified then I am.

[manstown]

Wouldn't put too much emphasis on the degree. Experience can pull just as much weight. You sound like you have a good background. You should be okay.

[Love_Ulcer]

Always apply apply apply! You literally have nothing to lose. Worst they can do is say no.

[signal1]

Thanks. Now on to my next question (assistance). I have started the application and in the beginnning I picked the option of any pay band. Well, now I have to complete information reference the questions for all three bands. I called Avue and they said that many people do that. They said to concentrate on the band that I feel that I qualify for. Ok, that is easy. Of course we all feel that we are good enough for the highest band but in reality, which one should I concentrate on and how in the heck do I answer the for the other bands? Did those of you who did the same as me put in the same information on all of them or what did you do?

[manstown]

In the long run, it is going to be decided by the Air Marshals. But I would not answer them all the same way. Just answer as much as you can. Trust me, and I think others will agree, it is hard to come on at a high pay scale. They will determine that throughout the process. If you can answer all the KSA's, do it. It can't hurt to give them a better understanding of the applicant. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!

[igneous]

Got a message today to set up an interview next week. The day after I have my Med exam :) Moving further through the process :)

[manstown]

Igneous,

Were there any forms that you brought with you?

[igneous]

Igneous,

Were there any forms that you brought with you?
To what? My med exam is next week the day before my interview, I am bringing those forms that I had my doctor fill out to that.

[manstown]

Misread your message. I have my medical tomorrow. I was told that I would not need any forms. Nevermind.

[igneous]

Misread your message. I have my medical tomorrow. I was told that I would not need any forms. Nevermind.
Yeah I heard you dont need them, but Im going to bring them anyway. Makes me kinda mad that I spent 25 bucks to get them filled out.

[SD5326]

Got a message today to set up an interview next week. The day after I have my Med exam :) Moving further through the process :)


Igs,

That's great man! You're getting two things done with this process within a week when it has taken some people months to get one of the above completed.

[igneous]

Yeah I am super excited! I'm a bit nervous for the interview, but am happy to be getting much further into the process. Hopefully I will find out more about what their plans are at my interview. I'm curious as to when the next class is going be.

[psycho1000r]

Yeah I am super excited! I'm a bit nervous for the interview, but am happy to be getting much further into the process. Hopefully I will find out more about what their plans are at my interview. I'm curious as to when the next class is going be.


let us know how it went.!!!

[LDIMATTI]

FYI... there is only one more class scheduled for the 2006 Fiscal Year... and that is the April Class....I guess they are scrambling to fill that class pretty quick....

[manstown]

Just had my Medical. Wasn't that bad. Turn and cough!!!!!!!!!

[0351]

FYI... there is only one more class scheduled for the 2006 Fiscal Year... and that is the April Class....I guess they are scrambling to fill that class pretty quick....
What april class??? the post someone made about a hiring freeze and april start dates either here or on 911jobs was no joke.
Don't go getting people's hopes up.

Please don't bombard me with questions now, I really don't know more than that for you guys. I just have a thing against misinformation.

[igneous]

What april class??? the post someone made about a hiring freeze and april start dates either here or on 911jobs was no joke.
Don't go getting people's hopes up.

Please don't bombard me with questions now, I really don't know more than that for you guys. I just have a thing against misinformation.
Well thanks for letting us know the truth. Hearing about that april class kind of got my hopes up. :mad:

[LDIMATTI]

Trust me on this one... there is going to be an April Class!

[manstown]

Just talked to my buddies, one that was hired with the first class and another that just started, and both say there is a April class.

0351, what misinformation are you talking about?

[igneous]

They called me back, I have my interview and Psych exam on the same day. He said the psych takes 3 hours :eek:

[LilBit]

i was the one that was offered a spot in the april class and then called back to be told they were now in a hiring freeze, and it looked like they may start up again in july. since then all i've found out is that's it technically not a hiring freeze but a "budget resolution" (more of a technical difference though than anything else).

[intheair]

I was told by Fams that there is no such freeze and the process is still moving. With that being said I stil would not be surprised if other fams told me there is a freeze. AVue is not able to help, and I finished everything pta and all a few weeks ago in feb when the last big push went through. Is anyone FAM or closely connected able to shine some light on this. All I read on this board is about medical paperwork.

[Patrio72]

I received my COE on 3/3/3006. The email states that:

The remaining phases of the hiring and assessment process are:

Verification of your qualifications for the position
Panel Interview
Medical Examination
Psychological Assessment
Physical Training Assessment
Background Investigation
Final Hiring Decision

Q. How does FAMS verify my qualifications? (Review of KSA's, during the interview,...)
Q. Has anyone received a COE and then a thin letter?
Q. When will they contact my current employer?
Q. When should I hear about an interview and will I get an email or phone call?

I submitted my BI and med release forms on 3/6/2006.

Thanks!

[Threex]

I know this process sucks, but everyone keeps posting the same bulls&%^&. questions and heresay. Just let the process do its thing and if you get called, you get called. The avue system blows as well, but everything you need to do is posted there and they will email or call you about everything that is necessary during the process. To make 15,000 posts summarized in one sentence....It can take a month, or a year, or never to get hired...just keep pluggin' along in the process, as well as applying everywhere else and do not put your life on hold for this fam position. IT IS WHAT IT IS, and yes i completed everything as well and im waiting like the 2.4 million rest of us! :D
Im not directing this post to any certain individual on here, but if there is anyone with CREDIBLE info(like directly from the acting director, or Chertoff himself...not newly hired fams) it would be appreciated. :rolleyes:

[SD5326]

Completed medical today.

[igneous]

Completed medical today.
hey I saw you post on 911forums as well. Do you have to pay to post over there? I registered but can't post..

[SD5326]

hey I saw you post on 911forums as well. Do you have to pay to post over there? I registered but can't post..


Yes, you have to pay.....not that much though.

[igneous]

What the hell, I just got an email telling me to call FOH and cancel my medical exam. They said they sent the email prematurely, and will let me know when I will need to schedule one. The thing is my appointment is on monday and I was supposed to have cancelled my appointment by friday. My appointment is early monday morning, I'm thinking I will just go anyway? Has anyone else gotten this email? They sent it at 9 at night on a friday :mad:
I'm thinking its something that Avue is messing up, because why would they want me to postpone my medical when I have my interview and psych on tuesday. So confused.

[SD5326]

Hey Igs,

Don't get upset, most people being notified for the med have already completed the Interview and the psych. I would go any way if I were you. If the medical office has the paperwork on you I would just go and get it done if possible. Just my suggestion though.

P.S. check your PM brother.

[psycho1000r]

What the hell, I just got an email telling me to call FOH and cancel my medical exam. They said they sent the email prematurely, and will let me know when I will need to schedule one. The thing is my appointment is on monday and I was supposed to have cancelled my appointment by friday. My appointment is early monday morning, I'm thinking I will just go anyway? Has anyone else gotten this email? They sent it at 9 at night on a friday :mad:
I'm thinking its something that Avue is messing up, because why would they want me to postpone my medical when I have my interview and psych on tuesday. So confused.

hey IG, was your appointement in wilkes barre???? i see your from the north east, so im just wondering if we might bump into each other. i have an 8:45 appointment on monday to do my physical.


ps- i would just go anyways man.. " you were out of town and never got the email ;) "

[0351]

Im not directing this post to any certain individual on here, but if there is anyone with CREDIBLE info(like directly from the acting director, or Chertoff himself...not newly hired fams) it would be appreciated. :rolleyes:
For the record, Dana Brown is the new director. And yeah, the average flying FAM in most of the field offices doesn't know anything about hiring, and people most of the people hired last fiscal year fall into that category. I'm not going to argue with anyone over when there will be more hires, because it's a waste of time, just be sure you're not betting on getting hired in April or ever, which should be common sense.

[psycho1000r]

For the record, Dana Brown is the new director. And yeah, the average flying FAM in most of the field offices doesn't know anything about hiring, and people most of the people hired last fiscal year fall into that category. I'm not going to argue with anyone over when there will be more hires, because it's a waste of time, just be sure you're not betting on getting hired in April or ever, which should be common sense.


iv pretty much settled on .. " if they call they call , if they dont they dont" im not sacrificing anything trying to get this job. its too unpredictable. and i dont take anything anyone says on here seriously. theres been too many ups n downs with hte hiring prosess, if its gonna happen its gonna happen.

im at least glad i get some kinda movement about once a month, a call for soemthing, lol.

my advice... expect nothing, that way when anything happens, your pleasantly suprised! :)

[igneous]

hey IG, was your appointement in wilkes barre???? i see your from the north east, so im just wondering if we might bump into each other. i have an 8:45 appointment on monday to do my physical.


ps- i would just go anyways man.. " you were out of town and never got the email ;) "
No its in RI. You didn't get that email?

[psycho1000r]

No its in RI. You didn't get that email?



no im still on. i checked my email and answering machine though ,lol.

i did the interview and psych a long time ago, plus i had my psych interview. so i think im a bit father ahead than u are. like i said id go anyways if i were you.

[SD5326]

Quote from Psycho "its too unpredictable. and i dont take anything anyone says on here seriously. theres been too many ups n downs with the hiring process"

Yeah Man,

I love an emotional roller coaster! It makes victory that much more sweet when it comes. Good luck Psycho!

[psycho1000r]

Yeah Man,

I love an emotional roller coaster! It makes victory that much more sweet when it comes. Good luck Psycho!

so whats your status sd? what do u have left to do? and was the pyhsical the same as any normal doctors visit?

[SD5326]

so whats your status sd? what do u have left to do? and was the pyhsical the same as any normal doctors visit?


I'm done with everything exception being the PTA, hopefully I'll be notified to do that soon. The physical was a little more in depth in relation to what my primary care physician did(380A&B). They tested eyesight (4 different tests), blood work, urine, listen to heartbeat w/a stethoscope and the usual....... turn and cough.

[psycho1000r]

I'm done with everything exception being the PTA, hopefully I'll be notified to do that soon. The physical was a little more in depth in relation to what my primary care physician did(380A&B). They tested eyesight (4 different tests), blood work, urine, listen to heartbeat w/a stethoscope and the usual....... turn and cough.

cool, thanks man. i'll be going thru it tommrrow morning, then all i have if i pass that is the PTA.

[SD5326]

cool, thanks man. i'll be going thru it tommrrow morning, then all i have if i pass that is the PTA.

Once Again, Good Luck! I'll be checking in tomorrow afternoon to see how it went.

[igneous]

Once Again, Good Luck! I'll be checking in tomorrow afternoon to see how it went.
I just got back from mine, everything went great. Took an hour and a half, but great results :)

[USMC5816]

Completed the PTA in 02/03/06 and still no word. Good luck to all who are still waiting. Oh...The process still isn't that long....CALM, COOL, AND COLLECTED is the name of the game. It could be longer, those who have applied to NCIS, USSS, ICE, and FBI know that a 18 (I mean) 24-36 month wait is not that uncommon.---out

[igneous]

How did the med go psycho?

[Gibbmusic]

I have just recently decided to give this process a shot. After 5 years of local law enforcement and finally getting my bachelor's degree, I figure now is the time to go after one of my dream jobs.

I have a quick question for the folks who have been in the process and the folks who have been hired. On the very first application that I fill out through Avue, I've been racking my brain over the KSAs/Competencies section. At the very beginning I selected that I wanted to apply for all three career levels and now I'm wondering how I should approach this section. It seems that levels 2 and 3 are just repeat questions of level 1, it just appears that they want more advanced documentation of your skills.

My questions:

1.) Should I give my best narratives in the first section and then add some extra information to each of the subsequent sections? Is this ruining my chances of having a shot at the higher pay grades? Or do they read each of the sections in order therefore it's okay to start low and add information with each section?

2.) If they don't read each section in order, then would it be appropriate to formulate one good response to each section and then copy/paste into the higher sections?

3.) Am I wasting my time even applying for the two higher grades as well? Do they frequently hire to the H and I levels for new hires?

I'm not necessarily concerned with the starting salary, I've never been into law enforcement for the money (obviously), I just don't want to sell myself short because I feel like I have some good experience.

Thanks for any help or input on the matter,
Gibbmusic

P.S. any special hints or tips for this process that haven't been covered in this topic before...other than be PATIENT???

[psycho1000r]

How did the med go psycho?

it went ok, i had a problem with that wierd puffer machine that u have to blow into, htey said it was some malfunction though, so who knows.

back to waiting.

[igneous]

I had never done one of those before, but I did surprisingly well. The nurse said something like 113% percentile of people my age.

[igneous]

Well I'm off to my interview/psych :o
Will post how it went when I get home later, its gonna be a long day.

[psycho1000r]

Well I'm off to my interview/psych :o
Will post how it went when I get home later, its gonna be a long day.


you'll do fine man!! good luck, post up later chief!

[SD5326]

I have just recently decided to give this process a shot. After 5 years of local law enforcement and finally getting my bachelor's degree, I figure now is the time to go after one of my dream jobs.

I have a quick question for the folks who have been in the process and the folks who have been hired. On the very first application that I fill out through Avue, I've been racking my brain over the KSAs/Competencies section. At the very beginning I selected that I wanted to apply for all three career levels and now I'm wondering how I should approach this section. It seems that levels 2 and 3 are just repeat questions of level 1, it just appears that they want more advanced documentation of your skills.

My questions:

1.) Should I give my best narratives in the first section and then add some extra information to each of the subsequent sections? Is this ruining my chances of having a shot at the higher pay grades? Or do they read each of the sections in order therefore it's okay to start low and add information with each section?

2.) If they don't read each section in order, then would it be appropriate to formulate one good response to each section and then copy/paste into the higher sections?

3.) Am I wasting my time even applying for the two higher grades as well? Do they frequently hire to the H and I levels for new hires?

I'm not necessarily concerned with the starting salary, I've never been into law enforcement for the money (obviously), I just don't want to sell myself short because I feel like I have some good experience.

Thanks for any help or input on the matter,
Gibbmusic

P.S. any special hints or tips for this process that haven't been covered in this topic before...other than be PATIENT???


I would say in regards to answering the KSA's you should apply for all three levels brother. It is like an interview.......except selling yourself to someone whom you may never meet face to face or until an actual panel interview. That is...... do your best to reconstruct a situation that would relate to you having extensive experience in any particular question they may ask you. With you being an LEO you should have no problems. As for the redundant questions for the different levels you could put the same scenario in each question and as the levels get higher expound on them with more in-depth detail. This is what someone suggested to me before doing my first set of KSA's and it has worked so far for every app I have ever filled out with results being in regard to getting an interview(actually got complimented on KSA portion during my interview with FAMS). I hope this helps Gibb and good luck.

ANOTHER NOTE: The Doctor that did my medical physical (FOH) called me today (I didn't know they did call backs/follow ups) and said they were forwarding my med package today to the FAMS with a "thumbs up reccomendation." he said all my bloodwork and such looked "really good ". So onward we go!

[SD5326]

its gonna be a long day.

Yes....yes it is. But you'll be fine.

[Love_Ulcer]

Well I'm off to my interview/psych :o
Will post how it went when I get home later, its gonna be a long day.

Good luck.

[igneous]

Took the interview and psych today. It went pretty well. There was me and another guy there who I don't think did as well as I did. He was basically 300 questions behind my on the psych test, and from what the FAM who escorted me out said he didn't do too well on the interview either. I'm not the best at interviews, but I'm hoping I did good enough. Now I just need to go back for my TB test tomorrow, get my fingerprints done at a local PD, and schedule an appointment with a psychologist. He said not to do that for a week though.

[SD5326]

Igs,

I knew you'd be o.k.. That's good news!

[igneous]

thanks :D

[psycho1000r]

Took the interview and psych today. It went pretty well. There was me and another guy there who I don't think did as well as I did. He was basically 300 questions behind my on the psych test, and from what the FAM who escorted me out said he didn't do too well on the interview either. I'm not the best at interviews, but I'm hoping I did good enough. Now I just need to go back for my TB test tomorrow, get my fingerprints done at a local PD, and schedule an appointment with a psychologist. He said not to do that for a week though.


if you didnt do well at the interview u wouldnt have made the panel interview! i never got my fingerprints done?? odd.

congrats man!

[igneous]

if you didnt do well at the interview u wouldnt have made the panel interview! i never got my fingerprints done?? odd.

congrats man!
:confused: There was no interview, other then the panel. After I took all those psych tests-soooooo many bubbles to fill in :mad: I was given a number to schedule my psych interview as well as a couple sheets for fingerprints. I guess Ill get that done after I get my tb test checked out tomorrow.

[psycho1000r]

:confused: There was no interview, other then the panel. After I took all those psych tests-soooooo many bubbles to fill in :mad: I was given a number to schedule my psych interview as well as a couple sheets for fingerprints. I guess Ill get that done after I get my tb test checked out tomorrow.

oops i typed that wrong,. what i meant to say was, if u didnt do well in the panel you wouldnt have made the psych part. lol

man, they do everything different for each person.. i had to do everything in steps, your lucky there scheduling everything in a row for ya!!!

[igneous]

oops i typed that wrong,. what i meant to say was, if u didnt do well in the panel you wouldnt have made the psych part. lol

man, they do everything different for each person.. i had to do everything in steps, your lucky there scheduling everything in a row for ya!!!
Yeah, all of these things need to get done, but it seems the way they do it for each person is different. I'm getting very excited to be more then half way through the hiring process now. Very anxious. :)

[SD5326]

I'm not gonna get anxious until after the PTA. But I will be losing my mind until the notification for the PTA. :)

[igneous]

Finished up the Med with the tb test today, my blood/urine tests came out perfect :)
Going to the PD to get my fingerprints done right now.

[psycho1000r]

Finished up the Med with the tb test today, my blood/urine tests came out perfect :)
Going to the PD to get my fingerprints done right now.

how do u know what ur blood urine test came out to? they had to mail mine somewhere in wisconsin???

anyways, the FBI emailed me today to do there phase 1 testing. i applied with them a few months ago. lets see if they move as slow as the FAMs

[igneous]

how do u know what ur blood urine test came out to? they had to mail mine somewhere in wisconsin???

anyways, the FBI emailed me today to do there phase 1 testing. i applied with them a few months ago. lets see if they move as slow as the FAMs
I guess certain places do it close and some have to send it out for results. In my case I had asked the nurse if I could get a copy for myself, and she had them for me when I came back for the TB test.
I read on 911jobforums about the fbi hiring process, and from what I understand they are VERY slow. Think a year or two. That makes the FAMS seem like nothing.

[USMC5816]

hiring process for FAMS was not really that slow folks?? I guess any amount of time sucks-hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait, etc... I finished everything in 6 months as did many people on this thread....Thats quick. I have had a package in one of the-BIG 3-for three (3) years and have just finished the process. Don't worry folks!!! You will get to complete the whole process, if you are deemed good-to-go. The real wait with FAMS I think is after the completion of the whole hiring process. For those who have not completed the PTA...Start PTing now. This is what could seperate the would be Adventurers from the serious contenders. It is not easy to score excellent on all events. I wish you all the best of luck and hope we all get this great and very important job. Remember, FAMS state there are no pass/fail requirements. However, think about how many people make it to where we all are now (can't take all of us) this will skim off the rest who are Equally qualified-----do not take the PTA as a cake walk--It would suck really bad to make it over all the phases in the process and blow it on the PTA. This short wait may be a good thing-give you folks a chance to get in shape and for others to stay in shape and get some. Stay safe folks and good-luck............out

SEMPER FI

[psycho1000r]

. However, think about how many people make it to where we all are now (can't take all of us) this will skim off the rest who are Equally qualified-----do not take the PTA as a cake walk--It would suck really bad to make it over all the phases in the process and blow it on the PTA. This short wait may be a good thing-give you folks a chance to get in shape and for others to stay in shape and get some. Stay safe folks and good-luck............out

SEMPER FI


this is the one reason im not all that annoyed the process is taking lonng... gives me time to get in better shape. iv never been good at cardio, that the biggest hurdle for me. running has always been my weakness!

[USMC5816]

IS FOR ME TOO--I'm a gym rat not a cross country runner. Law Enforcement does not care if you can bench press the front-end of a Ford F-250 :D only want you to ruuuunnnnn like the wind---Just like the Corps. Just have to make yourself do it thats all-be consistent in your training....meaning train everyday in some way-like it or not. You will be fine just make sure you don't wait a week before the PTA.

[USMC5816]

oh and good luck with phase I. Very math intense---thats no secret. If it isn't running it's math :D

[igneous]

Yeah, my fall wasn't very active, so I have been working hard to get back into better shape for the past month or two. I feel so much better now that I'm working out more again, which is even more motivation to keep it up.

[psycho1000r]

oh and good luck with phase I. Very math intense---thats no secret. If it isn't running it's math :D

ggreattttttt!! make that 2 weaknesses i have..... i been out of college too long, lol

[Patrio72]

I have been following the FAMS threads closely on various boards. I received my COE on 3/3 and faxed my med/BI forms on 3/6. Now I am waiting for the next call/email regarding an interview. *fingers crossed* I have to agree that the PTA is not something that should be put on the back burner. Best of luck to everyone!

[SD5326]

Igs, Psycho,

What's the haps?

I checked my app on Avue today and it had all of the required documents attached which I had never been able to see before. I faxed all those docs in when I applied back in Aug. Hmmmmmmmmm?

Oh yeah and happy St. Patty's Day!

[igneous]

Which ones, these?
Background Investigation Form (SF86)
Background Investigation Additional Information
Report of Medical History (SF93)
Or these?
Signed BI Release Form
Signed Medical Release Form
Mine might be different because the forms that I did I filled out, scanned, and put them on avue electronically, instead of faxing them. Hopefully I'll find out when my psych meeting is on tuesday, then I'll just have the PTA to do. :)
BTW, theres a few guys over on the real police(one word) .net forums that are FAMs and post some good information now and then. Not sure if you guys know about that forum. Its always good to know a little bit more about this job, since so much of it is kept secret. It wouldn't let me post the url of those forums.

[SD5326]

Written by Igs: Which ones, these?
Background Investigation Form (SF86)
Background Investigation Additional Information
Report of Medical History (SF93)
Or these?
Signed BI Release Form
Signed Medical Release Form
Mine might be different because the forms that I did I filled out, scanned, and put them on avue electronically, instead of faxing them.


No, I was talking about supporting docs like the ones listed below. I am not going to get into detail about which ones I faxed but there are some on here that I think everyone has to fax in and mine just showed up on my app within the last couple of days. The BI release and Med Release have been on my app since the day after I faxed them in as well as my fingerprint card. I asked AVUE about faxing or scanning in the SF-86, she said there was no need since I already faxed the BI and Med release. I don't know how true that is though.....
and yeah Real Police has some good intel, you just have to separate the B.S. from factual intel.


Documents Required For Verification Of Eligibility:
Proof of United States citizenship (birth certificate or other acceptable documentation)
Proof of military service (DD214s or other equivalent documents)
Proof of government service providing reinstatement eligibility-- Notificationof Personnel Action (SF-50) or equivalent document)
Application for 10-Point Veteran's Preference (SF-15) & appropriate documentation
Proof of 10-point compensable or noncompensable disability preference, Purple Heart, or disability pension
Proof of veterans preference based on spouse's service or the service of a child
Proof of eligibility for special appointment authorities for people with disability. Proof of disability from military service (i.e., letter within the last twelve months from Veterans Administration or a branch of the armed forces indicating disability and the amount (%) of the disability, or certification from a StateVocational Rehabilitation Agency or Veterans Administration.)
Proof of eligibility for Priority Placement consideration under Career Transition Assistance Program (CTAP) or Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program (ICTAP); i.e., copy of appropriate documentation such as RIF separation notice, or other notice of eligibility
Proof of appointment eligibility based on service with other federal organizations; i.e., Notification of Personnel Action that provides eligibility
Declaration for Federal Employment (OF-306)
Proof of government service meeting time-in-grade requirements
Copy of college transcript if education was used to qualified you for the position

[igneous]

Hmm, I'll have to look into that, I might have forgotten to send them some stuff. Although I would think they would have requested the information by now if they needed it. I'll see if I forgot to send anything though.

[SD5326]

Although I would think they would have requested the information by now if they needed it.


I'm thinking the same thing. I figure if they need something this far into the process, they'll ask for it. I wonder how long it will take them to adjudicate our medical information and in turn send out notification to take the PTA?

SD

[igneous]

well there is part of me that would just like to do the pta and do my best, but another part wants to keep working and be able to do better at it. I have no clue how long it will take.

[SD5326]

Hey Igs,

Check out crossfit .com they'll get you in shape faster than anything else. Trust me, Ive been working out forever and there is nothing else out there that compares to their workouts. It might be hard at first but once you get in the groove you'll be astonished. Just my .02, but you should definitely look into it. The best part is that it is all free information from professional coaches/athletes.

[igneous]

Nice, I'll check it out.

[psycho1000r]

No, I was talking about supporting docs like the ones listed below. I am not going to get into detail about which ones I faxed but there are some on here that I think everyone has to fax in and mine just showed up on my app within the last couple of days. The BI release and Med Release have been on my app since the day after I faxed them in as well as my fingerprint card. I asked AVUE about faxing or scanning in the SF-86, she said there was no need since I already faxed the BI and Med release. I don't know how true that is though.....
and yeah Real Police has some good intel, you just have to separate the B.S. from factual intel.


Documents Required For Verification Of Eligibility:
Proof of United States citizenship (birth certificate or other acceptable documentation)
Proof of military service (DD214s or other equivalent documents)
Proof of government service providing reinstatement eligibility-- Notificationof Personnel Action (SF-50) or equivalent document)
Application for 10-Point Veteran's Preference (SF-15) & appropriate documentation
Proof of 10-point compensable or noncompensable disability preference, Purple Heart, or disability pension
Proof of veterans preference based on spouse's service or the service of a child
Proof of eligibility for special appointment authorities for people with disability. Proof of disability from military service (i.e., letter within the last twelve months from Veterans Administration or a branch of the armed forces indicating disability and the amount (%) of the disability, or certification from a StateVocational Rehabilitation Agency or Veterans Administration.)
Proof of eligibility for Priority Placement consideration under Career Transition Assistance Program (CTAP) or Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program (ICTAP); i.e., copy of appropriate documentation such as RIF separation notice, or other notice of eligibility
Proof of appointment eligibility based on service with other federal organizations; i.e., Notification of Personnel Action that provides eligibility
Declaration for Federal Employment (OF-306)
Proof of government service meeting time-in-grade requirements
Copy of college transcript if education was used to qualified you for the position

i faxed that a LONG time ago, odd? like i said , avue is really weird about how different everyones process is going.

[SD5326]

i faxed that a LONG time ago, odd? like i said , avue is really weird about how different everyones process is going.

Yeah, me too (faxed it a long time ago)but it just showed up on my app on Avue the other day. I don't know.....maybe they just forgot to post it initially or maybe they are actively looking at my app. I really don't know though....just struck me as odd when I saw those items for the first time in a long time the other day.

[igneous]

Someone on the delphi forums posted this:
"NYFO is still understaffed. Not even 1/2 the needed numbers were filled. ASACS had to get their ca$h awards, no budget left. Hang in there.
And to the newbies, STOP wearing GOLF VESTS. You look like retarded herbs and oh so Obvious. Don't listen to training staff in Artesia who tell you otherwise..."

Im not sure what the golf vest thing is about, but I am glad to hear that the NY fo still needs a lot of people, as that is where I would like to be placed.

[MarcDominic]

I, like some others on this site, just got an email saying to cancel my physical. :(

[vegas041st]

Igneous-
how were you notified of your urine test (call, email, avue website??)??

[igneous]

Umm, they administered it when I had my physical. As well as when I went in for my interview. That have spent a ton of money already on various tests.

[igneous]

I, like some others on this site, just got an email saying to cancel my physical. :(
You just got it? Those of us who got that got it a little over a week ago. I got mine too late though, and couldn't cancel, so I am glad I got to get it done :)

[USMC5816]

Vegas, hey do a search on www.911jobforums.com or this site. I looked all over for you and can't seem to find any info-I hope this does not indicate a lack of investigative skills-----b/c I can smell 1811. Anyway, check out the FAA Standards and/or ICE Standards b/c thats how I was tested....even though FAMS is back to TSA. I tried to PM you directly but I was not allowed-sorry I could not help you more.

[MarcDominic]

You just got it? Those of us who got that got it a little over a week ago. I got mine too late though, and couldn't cancel, so I am glad I got to get it done :)

Sorry, I didn't mean "just" as in today. I got it 5 days ago(the 15th). It said "Medical evaluations are temporarily restricted."

[igneous]

Yeah, I'm hoping that my physical will go through and count regardless of that email. I wasn't about to cancel the day of my physical, the original email said I would be charged if I did that.

[SD5326]

Yeah, I'm hoping that my physical will go through and count regardless of that email. I wasn't about to cancel the day of my physical, the original email said I would be charged if I did that.

Igs,

I wouldn't worry too much about the medical "not counting". It's not like their gonna throw the report away and the scratch they spent on getting you cleared medically. I would think they would have to take a look at it (medical) and make their own assessment. I'm bored and just wondering when that notification for the PTA is gonna show up. I know I know......I just got cleared last week, but, I'm looking forward to the next two steps (PTA & Phone Call....hopefully) ;)

[igneous]

Igs,

I wouldn't worry too much about the medical "not counting". It's not like their gonna throw the report away and the scratch they spent on getting you cleared medically. I would think they would have to take a look at it (medical) and make their own assessment. I'm bored and just wondering when that notification for the PTA is gonna show up. I know I know......I just got cleared last week, but, I'm looking forward to the next two steps (PTA & Phone Call....hopefully) ;)
Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. I have to call for my psych appointment today, and after that I'll be around the same stage as you :)

[psycho1000r]

Igs,

I wouldn't worry too much about the medical "not counting". It's not like their gonna throw the report away and the scratch they spent on getting you cleared medically. I would think they would have to take a look at it (medical) and make their own assessment. I'm bored and just wondering when that notification for the PTA is gonna show up. I know I know......I just got cleared last week, but, I'm looking forward to the next two steps (PTA & Phone Call....hopefully) ;)

sd, HOW LONG did it take you to get the results from your medical exam?

[SD5326]

I think it was something like 2 business days.

EDIT: On a positive note (not that the above is negative), I took it upon myself to make a call and inquire about the Med results getting to FAMS like someone else did on another forum. They said it arrived yesterday and I have been officially cleared and record has been sent to final hiring board. They made it obviously clear they have no idea when calls/ notifications will go out for any other steps as they are only concerned with clearing applicants medically. I'm just glad to hear something official that things are still moving.

SD

[pmustang97]

i just had a quick question. i just got the email saying to schedule my pat today and was wondering from thos who have gotten hired how long after it was until they got there final offer.

[igneous]

I think it was something like 2 business days.

EDIT: On a positive note (not that the above is negative), I took it upon myself to make a call and inquire about the Med results getting to FAMS like someone else did on another forum. They said it arrived yesterday and I have been officially cleared and record has been sent to final hiring board. They made it obviously clear they have no idea when calls/ notifications will go out for any other steps as they are only concerned with clearing applicants medically. I'm just glad to hear something official that things are still moving.

SD
Very cool, I am so anxious to get my psych interview done so I can be at a similar stage. Its odd they said that without taking the PTA yet though..

[USMC5816]

mustang,


I took it (PTA) in early 02/06 and my PTA sheet faxed that same day to HQ---- and still no call either way-- so who knows. I was told that the process would be very quick. I applied in 07/05 and was finished by early 09/05---until they came out with the PTA. It has been over a month since I took the PTA and from what I have been told--I'm Still "active". I have posted before that if you make it to the PTA and do well the odds are not working against you, but for you.....I know nothing is 100% However, you have made it past the biggest barriers and should be confident that you have an equal chance--(maybe) Concentrate on the PTA-TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN, AND TRAIN. Then you can kick back and know you have completed all that you can complete and in a sense made it through the hiring process. Remember, many, many, many folks with military backgrounds apply and have solid physical fitness backgrounds-I can't stress how much a good score on the PTA will set you apart. Take this time and use it wisely as a gift and like I said before train for it and if your a PT stud, well, train some more and ace it. Also, like I have said and like some of you already know-this hiring process is not nearly as long as it could be. Been in the application process with many different agencies for around two-three years and for some of them I have just finished the process. Don't be in a hurry to get to the PTA if you can't score excellent on all the events (today) listed in the PTA booklet.......good luck folks. I'm pull'in for you and ME :D

[manstown]

Two Saturdays ago I get the email saying to cancel my medical. That was too late because I had it finished that Wednesday. Now I get a call scheduling an interview. Can't figure these guys out.

[igneous]

Two Saturdays ago I get the email saying to cancel my medical. That was too late because I had it finished that Wednesday. Now I get a call scheduling an interview. Can't figure these guys out.
Maybe they decided to do interviews before they do physicals, since the physical costs them a lot of money. Congrats though. I just called to schedule my interview with a psychologist, I'm hoping they schedule it soon so I can get it done.

[0351]

i just had a quick question. i just got the email saying to schedule my pat today and was wondering from thos who have gotten hired how long after it was until they got there final offer.
It was 2-3 weeks for me, but I wouldn't expect to hear anything for 2 months or so, now.
Also Igneous, I know you were just quoting another forum, but don't you think if the golf vest wasn't obvious before posting it all over the internet won't just add that much more risk/loss of cover for guys doing the job? Just something to think about.

edit: I just realized you said you got the email, I thought you meant how long from the pta to hiring. There's no telling when you'll get called to actually do it... HR will have to push the field office to actually do it and then the field office will actually have to call you... good luck.

[igneous]

It was 2-3 weeks for me, but I wouldn't expect to hear anything for 2 months or so, now.
Also Igneous, I know you were just quoting another forum, but don't you think if the golf vest wasn't obvious before posting it all over the internet won't just add that much more risk/loss of cover for guys doing the job? Just something to think about.

edit: I just realized you said you got the email, I thought you meant how long from the pta to hiring. There's no telling when you'll get called to actually do it... HR will have to push the field office to actually do it and then the field office will actually have to call you... good luck.
It was on a public forum that you don't have to register to read anyway.
Is there any reason you say you wouldn't expect to hear anything for two months now? Are they not going to hire much until summer?

[manstown]

Just talked to a buddy thats a FAM. There is a class going through now and the next won't be going until June, July, and August. Don't quit your jobs just yet.

[Gibbmusic]

I have another quick quetion regarding the background questions. On the section labeled Associates, it states for you to list all relatives and associates, living or deceased! How far into the family tree do they expect you to go? Just immediate family like parents and siblings, or extended family like aunts, uncles, cousins, etc? Also since I'm in law enforcement, I have hundreds of associates, if not thousands....what exactly are they asking for?

I just found that a bit confusing, how far did you folks go in-depth here?

Thanks,
Gibbmusic

[manstown]

I just went as far as grandparents. Not enough paper to list all of them.

[SD5326]

Igs,
Any info on your Psych?


Psycho,
Any news with you?

[igneous]

No, :mad: I called and left a message with some psychologist in Boston but haven't heard back yet. Hopefully my interview will be next week..

[psycho1000r]

Igs,
Any info on your Psych?


Psycho,
Any news with you?

nodda. i called avue about med results , i told him i went like a week and a half ago, he said its gonna take longer than that to get the info since they had to ship it out.

so i just lurk around here waiting to hear something.

[igneous]

Got a call from a psychologist, made an appointment for next friday :) The only problem is the place is an hour and a half away :mad: Oh well, atleast one more step in the process :)

[manstown]

I had mine 2 Wednesday's ago and recieved a call for the interview the following Monday. One thing I learned is AVUE sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some people will get screwed because they are idiots. I am out of their hands now thank god.

[Patrio72]

Well that's comforting to know that I might get screwed by Avue. How can I avoid that?

This is what is listed on Avue now regarding my application:

"Please select, download, print, and have your physician complete the appropriate forms.

Medical Forms View
Medical Authorization Form"

I called Avue and they said for me to wait to get a call from FAMS before doing anything else. Is that true or should I go ahead and make my appointment with my doc anyway?

[manstown]

That is true. Once you have filled out the application on AVUE, the next step is a call from FAMS to schedule your medical. It may take time though, just be patient. That is how it went for me anyway. Seems there have been a couple different hiring schemes.

[vegas041st]

what is the phone number to talk to a real live person at avue?

[SD5326]

FYI - It's on the website and the application page at the bottom. But, to save you some time here goes.....

AVUE HELP DESK PH#
M-F 8-5PM PST
1-253-573-1877 ext 209
Good Luck.......... You'll Need it!

[igneous]

For those of you who have had the interview with the psychologist, did you wear a suit? I'm thinking that I am going to, just want to hear what others have done..

[SD5326]

Igs,

Wear a suit. The Dr. is doing an overall assessment on you. Anything you can do to shift the tide in your favor will help you. I know alot of people like to say "well a suit isn't required", but, sooner or later common sense should take precedence over personal opinon/preference. In no way am I saying that someone is not capable of doing this job just because they don't wear a suit to the psych interview. You normally only see the head doctor once and it would be a damn shame if you got passed over because of what you wore. A person wiser than I once told me "think of it as perception management and not as a hassle". Sorry about the ranting I think the girl at Starbuck's put an extra add shot in my coffee this morning. Good luck bro!

[igneous]

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. You really can't be overdressed for any type of interview. Thanks for the advice :)

[0351]

In no way am I saying that someone is not capable of doing this job just because they don't wear a suit to the psych interview.
In support of that, I wore a nice shirt and slacks to the psych interview.

[psycho1000r]

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. You really can't be overdressed for any type of interview. Thanks for the advice :)

i wore a suit, id rather be over dressed than underdressed.

[psycho1000r]

ps- the FBI phase 1 cognitive ability test was rediculously hard, i feel like an IDIOT after taking that test!!..... it was math i remembered from college, but have since NOT retained!!

there is NO way i passed that.

[SD5326]

Heard today the next academy is in July.

[Gibbmusic]

Now what could be more fun than running mile after mile in the New Mexico sun in July and August???

[0351]

Now what could be more fun than running mile after mile in the New Mexico sun in July and August???
Being in Atlantic City in May and June :cool:

[igneous]

Off to my Psych interview tomorrow, after that I will be caught up with a lot of you guys :)

[SD5326]

Off to my Psych interview tomorrow, after that I will be caught up with a lot of you guys :)

You'll be fine bro!

[igneous]

I just got a message on my phone from avue today. Apparently the fingerprint cards that I got from the FO where I was interviewed are the wrong ones. I have to call them back today, but they said they need the correct fingerprint form or the process will be stalled. I don't get how I was given the wrong ones. They even had FAMS stamped onto them. :mad:

[igneous]

Well I called them back after my psych interview, which went very well I think, and the guy said they got about 20 of these, and that he would call me back when he found out what they were going to do. I really hope will just accept them, so I dont have to do two more hours of driving to get them, and go to my PD for fingerprints again...

[SD5326]

Well I called them back after my psych interview, which went very well I think, and the guy said they got about 20 of these, and that he would call me back when he found out what they were going to do. I really hope will just accept them, so I dont have to do two more hours of driving to get them, and go to my PD for fingerprints again...


For your sake, I hope they accept them too. Question: Was your finger print card the SF-87(OPM) or something different? I've seen a few different type of print cards in my day. I'm pretty sure the one FAMS use is the one I mention above.

[igneous]

For your sake, I hope they accept them too. Question: Was your finger print card the SF-87(OPM) or something different? I've seen a few different type of print cards in my day. I'm pretty sure the one FAMS use is the one I mention above.
I don't even remember. The guy on the phone said they needed an sf-87, but if they have atleast 20 of us with these other cards can't they just accept them and have us do different ones if we actually get hired? The prints are the same, it shouldn't make a difference. I just don't want the process to be held up by something so simple. We'll see..

[SD5326]

I hear ya man! I know the prints will be the same, but, OPM likes the SF-87. If there are 20 of you I hope they'll just take'em and do an 87 on you when you get hired. I think the initial background only consists of running the prints through NCIC, current employment verification, and the credit check we have all seen on our CR's from Universal and then they give you the PTA email. More in depth background comes after you're hired.

[psycho1000r]

wtf, i still havent heard anything about my medical! how long did it take u guys to find out? its been 3 weeks!!

[vegas041st]

After you took the psych exam how long did you have to wait to schedule an interview with a psychologist? how were you contacted? (email or phone)?

[manstown]

wtf, i still havent heard anything about my medical! how long did it take u guys to find out? its been 3 weeks!!

They contacted me about a week later. It will be shorter for some and longer for others. Just be patient. I just receievd a call for my interview. I assumed my medical went well because of that. I never heard anything about the medical, just assumed I passed because of that call. Good Luck.

[igneous]

After you took the psych exam how long did you have to wait to schedule an interview with a psychologist? how were you contacted? (email or phone)?
I waited a week to call a number they gave me at my interview. THen it was another week and a half later. I just had it last friday.

[SD5326]

wtf, i still havent heard anything about my medical! how long did it take u guys to find out? its been 3 weeks!!


Psycho,

I wouldn't worry. If you haven't heard anything as of yet and it has been three weeks. You are more than likely good to go.

[igneous]

Yeah I haven't heard anything either. I'm more concerned about this fingerprint crap. Will probably call wednesday if I don't hear anything.