Air Marshal Job Open !

[dtown101]

Anybody here from the 09 announcement waiting for the final call after finishing all the phases including medical, fingerprints and SF-86??


if you are part of the 09 and you have finished everything including the medical i would call the FO and check your status...

[911fedz]

08 or 09 applicants, I heard they are preparing a class for July or August anybody can confirm....

[ciel75]

I got the email offer, the computer based test, the structured interview and the physical fitness test. I was told to wait for dc HQ for further details. is this protocol?

[hiltonheadgolf]

I got the email offer, the computer based test, the structured interview and the physical fitness test. I was told to wait for dc HQ for further details. is this protocol?

Are you off the '08 or '09 list ? Or both ?

[Maswood22]

I got the email offer, the computer based test, the structured interview and the physical fitness test. I was told to wait for dc HQ for further details. is this protocol?

I got the email offer, computer test, and did the interview a week ago...i was told right after the interview that i will be notified by HQ regarding results and that i could go home...but others who were also there stayed for the PT....while im pretty sure that was my rejection... i would say you are on the right track. ;)

[PHILLYFED]

Ciel 75,
Did you do your medical yet??

[ciel75]

No mention of the medical. Do you when they usually make you do one? I was assuming it would be after you get a final offer.

[jb2000]

I got the COE today. I applied under the 09 announcement

[jchughes05]

Got my COE today, too, also applied in '09.

[davidh304]

COE received, applied in 08 with Avue and was told to reapply in 09.

[911fedz]

For the applicants that recieved COE, what do u guys have left to do.....

[BamaCounty]

I have join the ranks of COE as well. Just got it today.

[PHILLYFED]

Ciel 75,
You will get your medical after another conditional offer with the FO that you will be going to.

[PHILLYFED]

To All those who received a COE today,
Did you already have your panel interview and PT?

[500pearl]

had panel a month ago, nothing since, no pft, no medical, no calls.

[MPb2727]

Received my COE today as well! (2009 ap)

[Fedman 111]

I also got the COE today and I'm all set up in the Candidate Dashboard. I'm part of the 08 crowd and I also applied under the 09 vacancy. They gave me until the 25th of this month to accept the offer which I've already accepted. How long does it take for the CBT to be scheduled? If anyone knows. Is it a quick thing? Should I be expecting a phone call or email with a test date anytime soon?

[danthony]

Fedman, I'm with you and MPb. I got my email COE today. Wonder about the timeline.

[911fedz]

I also got the COE today and I'm all set up in the Candidate Dashboard. I'm part of the 08 crowd and I also applied under the 09 vacancy. They gave me until the 25th of this month to accept the offer which I've already accepted. How long does it take for the CBT to be scheduled? If anyone knows. Is it a quick thing? Should I be expecting a phone call or email with a test date anytime soon?

You should expect an E-mail, to go take it.......there moving a little fast.....

[rbakous1]

Fedman, I'm with you and MPb. I got my email COE today. Wonder about the timeline.

same here :)

[ciel75]

I got my second conditional offer today. I passed the comp test, interview and took the physical fitness test. Now I have to take a medical. Applied 2009.

[exeproagent]

Good evening all
I recieved the conditional last night under the 2009 announcement, however this was my second coe. I applied back in 2006 when avue tech was doing the hiring. i was now told lockhead martin/tsa is now doing the hiring. I originally completed the fingerprints,oral inter, pysch papers, mental healt cert, drug test, and finally when i recieved the medical paperwork is when the vaccancy closed. so all the steps i completed mean nada!!!

Now I talked to the atl fo where I am and they advised me that I had to do all the steps over, so i waiting all over again. by the way i am a leo here in atl ga.

good luck to all

fams
coe pending more steps

dea
coe pending more steps

[hiltonheadgolf]

Is the computer test taken at the FO ?

[jchughes05]

What's a typical schedule like for an Air Marshal?

Thanx!

[Spammail.dj]

Just got my COE email today too (App. Feb 2009) Now what? I've heard the process taking takes years. Also, does anyone know what the FAMS Assessment Battery test consist of? How about the # of vacancies?

[Doggie123]

Got my COE yesterday !!

[Blind Justice]

I also got the COE email yesturday, accepted this morning... Applied 01/2009.

[cop320]

Anyone get a final offer for the next class starting in July/Aug?

[PigsdoFly]

What's a typical schedule like for an Air Marshal?

Thanx!

Fly, fly, fly, fly about 5 days a week...

[Navalaircrewman]

For your reading enjoyment:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09273.pdf

[paul354]

Quick Question: how long is training in each location? Are candidates allowed to fly home on weekends? Is it convenient to get to the airport from the training site?

[Bearcat357]

Quick Question: how long is training in each location? Are candidates allowed to fly home on weekends? Is it convenient to get to the airport from the training site?

I know the thread is long.....but all that info is already been posted in here numerous times....

[Up_On_Base]

Quick Question: how long is training in each location? Are candidates allowed to fly home on weekends? Is it convenient to get to the airport from the training site?

8 weeks in NM, closet major airport is 4 hours away.
8 weeks in AC, closet major airport is PHL, 1 hour away.

Weekends off but be back in time for training. Its big boy rules, not like state academies where its paramilitary/high stress.

If you are squared away and on point...the feds leave you alone for the most part. Note, I am not a FAM but federal training is pretty standard. The only major exception would be BP.

[ifineed2]

8 weeks in NM, closet major airport is 4 hours away.
8 weeks in AC, closet major airport is PHL, 1 hour away.

Weekends off but be back in time for training. Its big boy rules, not like state academies where its paramilitary/high stress.

If you are squared away and on point...the feds leave you alone for the most part. Note, I am not a FAM but federal training is pretty standard. The only major exception would be BP.

The closest airport isn't 4 hours away, there's an airport in Roswell, it may be a puddle jumper but it's a LOT faster than driving.

[Md094]

The closest airport isn't 4 hours away, there's an airport in Roswell, it may be a puddle jumper but it's a LOT faster than driving.

Roswell is 45 minutes away but the flights are only to Dallas, you have to drive to Albuquerque, which is 4 hours away, for a major airport.

I also think the training was extended 2+ additional weeks beginning this year.

[PigsdoFly]

8 weeks in NM, closet major airport is 4 hours away.
8 weeks in AC, closet major airport is PHL, 1 hour away.

Weekends off but be back in time for training. Its big boy rules, not like state academies where its paramilitary/high stress.

If you are squared away and on point...the feds leave you alone for the most part. Note, I am not a FAM but federal training is pretty standard. The only major exception would be BP.

ACY is 10 weeks now.

[Helo]

I was away from work all last week and was going through about 300 e-mails this morning. In the midst of all of them was a TO from FAMS!

[weasel3o3]

I was away from work all last week and was going through about 300 e-mails this morning. In the midst of all of them was a TO from FAMS!

Just got it last Friday too Helo!

Anybody have any idea how long the process is from the TO to FO?

[911fedz]

Just got it last Friday too Helo!

Anybody have any idea how long the process is from the TO to FO?

Did u do any other steps yet, if not man no telling how long it will take. July/ Aug is the last classes for this year from what I was told.....

[Helo]

this year as in 2009 or as in fiscal year? The Gov't's fiscal year begins in October.

[911fedz]

this year as in 2009 or as in fiscal year? The Gov't's fiscal year begins in October.

I think for this fiscal year October.....

[PSA #1]

I got an e-mail today stating Thank You, but No Thank You for the newest application! They claim my app. was incomplete as they did not get my form 2811 and form 2812....... I faxed these forms 2 different times!!!!!!!!! The first was with the appl. and the second was when they called to say they didn't get it the first time. I even have fax verification that they got it! How fu@ked up is DC.? The best part is I still haven't heard anything from the 2008 application(finished everything!) waiting on offer!

Good luck to anyone who gets in! As I have said in one of my last posts, if this is the sh@t you have to go through prior to even getting the job - and this is how the whole service is run, you can have it! This whole FAM thing has taken 3 years of my life playing the hurry and wait game. I guess they are looking for Burger King employees and ex-strippers (trust me, I know one who got the job) rather than people with much experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

[fduflyer]

My friend just got a rejection letter as well. I find myself in a unique position where I have not been rejected, nor have I moved at all in the process beyond faxing my 2811&2812 :( I'm hoping that because I did not receive a rejection email that I am still in the running. We shall see.

[PSA #1]

My friend just got a rejection letter as well. I find myself in a unique position where I have not been rejected, nor have I moved at all in the process beyond faxing my 2811&2812 :( I'm hoping that because I did not receive a rejection email that I am still in the running. We shall see.

What gets me mad is the fact that I know they got my fax! (TWO TIMES!)

[paul354]

My friend just got a rejection letter as well. I find myself in a unique position where I have not been rejected, nor have I moved at all in the process beyond faxing my 2811&2812 :( I'm hoping that because I did not receive a rejection email that I am still in the running. We shall see.

Hey FDUflyer, does the FDU stand for Fairleigh Dickinson U? I'm finishing my MAS up there.

[davidh304]

sorry if this has been answered before but what does ACY stand for?

[500pearl]

where the taj mahal is baby!!!! atlantic city

[want2baleo86]

I got my second conditional offer today. I passed the comp test, interview and took the physical fitness test. Now I have to take a medical. Applied 2009.

Ciel,

When did you take your interview and PT? I'm trying to get a feel for a time frame...

Thanks

[psuphish05]

Got my first conditional offer last week and accepted.

Heard the average is about 4 months from initial conditional offer to final offer.

We'll see... good luck to those who are waiting their academy date and to those that just got news!

[MC9NJ]

Hey guys..new to the forums. I applied in Feb. just got my COE Friday. Not that I should ever assume anything when it comes to the Feds, but do they send you to NJ or NM depending on Geographical Location? As in I live in North Jersey. They will send me to AC over New Mexico..wont they?

[500pearl]

Hey guys..new to the forums. I applied in Feb. just got my COE Friday. Not that I should ever assume anything when it comes to the Feds, but do they send you to NJ or NM depending on Geographical Location? As in I live in North Jersey. They will send me to AC over New Mexico..wont they?
Training takes place at both locations.

[manstown]

You will go to Artesia first and then ACY.

[Bearcat357]

Hey guys..new to the forums. I applied in Feb. just got my COE Friday. Not that I should ever assume anything when it comes to the Feds, but do they send you to NJ or NM depending on Geographical Location? As in I live in North Jersey. They will send me to AC over New Mexico..wont they?

Dude....don't take this wrong BUT all your answers are in this thread. Its a huge thread.....but they are all there.....

You will spend 8 weeks in Artiesa, NM training THEN 10 weeks in Atlantic City, NJ training.....End of story.....This isn't the USMC where they send folks from one part of the US to training in CA and the others to NC..... EVERYONE goes to New Mexico....then EVERYONE goes to Atlantic City...then you go back to the FO that you were hired to work out of.......and get to work.....

The US Gov will pay for you to fly from where you are at to the training sites, pay for you food/lodging while you are training.....and surprisingly enough..... the US Gov will pay you a salary while you are training.......

[Helo]

Question for you guys that just got a TO. Have you gone in and completed your E-Qip?

I have had to complete the e-Qip in the past (for a diff job) and it took a call into them to get the golden questions reset to "unknown" so that I could enter. Maybe I am just trying to stay ahead of the game here, because the e-mail didn't say to go in and complete it.

[Bearcat357]

Question for you guys that just got a TO. Have you gone in and completed your E-Qip?

You can't go back into E-Qip until you get a "invite" from your new or current sponsor.....

So, unless the FAMs tell you to....you will be unable to update....

That's standard for all US Gov agancies....

[Helo]

Hmm. ok, thanks. I just saw the link there under the timeline and figured id go through it just to knock it out.

[SSPD178]

I searched most of the threads trying to find more on this and didn't see it: I also rec'd my CO about a week ago and am looking forward to the rest of the process. If training is in NJ & NM for 14 or 18 weeks (I saw both), are you permitted leave on weekends to fly home if desired, or required to remain on premesis for the entire duration?

Another unrelated question I've tried to find the answer to: I applied through the ATL posting and listed only ATL as desired FO on the app and got a CO from the January opening. Could I expect to get hired to ATL if successful through the remainder of the process? Thanks for the help.

[MC9NJ]

Dude....don't take this wrong BUT all your answers are in this thread. Its a huge thread.....but they are all there.....

You will spend 8 weeks in Artiesa, NM training THEN 10 weeks in Atlantic City, NJ training.....End of story.....This isn't the USMC where they send folks from one part of the US to training in CA and the others to NC..... EVERYONE goes to New Mexico....then EVERYONE goes to Atlantic City...then you go back to the FO that you were hired to work out of.......and get to work.....

The US Gov will pay for you to fly from where you are at to the training sites, pay for you food/lodging while you are training.....and surprisingly enough..... the US Gov will pay you a salary while you are training.......

Gotcha.. Thanks brother.. will do a better search next time

[Bearcat357]

Gotcha.. Thanks brother.. will do a better search next time

No biggie....it just get irrating sometimes to see the same questions answered over and over Lord only knows how many times.....and all one has to do is go back through the thread....

Yeah...it's a huge thread....but there is tons of info in it.....

[Up_On_Base]

No biggie....it just get irrating sometimes to see the same questions answered over and over Lord only knows how many times.....and all one has to do is go back through the thread....

Yeah...it's a huge thread....but there is tons of info in it.....

What are you the new Mod? Get kicked off 911?

;)

[500pearl]

oh i smell another round coming

[Bearcat357]

What are you the new Mod? Get kicked off 911?

;)

Bahahahaha.....

Crap....if I was a Mod from 911.....I would have shut this thread down AT LEAST a 100 times because it was so big....and made folks start over.... and over...and over...and over.... :rolleyes:

And if someone would have started new threads asking the same questions that had been asked a 1001 times before or somthing just down right stupid.....I would have chastised them more than I usually do so....then locked the damn thing.....and leave it around so that all can see it....and said chastising... :D

Further...if I was a Mod....I would have banned you and several others a looonnnnggg time ago....:D


That is all.....back to your regularly scheduled FAM thread....

[Navalaircrewman]

No biggie....it just get irrating sometimes to see the same questions answered over and over Lord only knows how many times.....and all one has to do is go back through the thread....

Yeah...it's a huge thread....but there is tons of info in it.....

Umm...I was just wandering how to get a job as an Air Marshal..And if I do, where do I go to school, And if I go t school, can my family come..and how much do Air Marshals get paid..and what's the PT standard like...and what's the job like...do you fly alot????????
Just wandering
:D

[PYTLEO]

Any female "potential" FAMs on this thread? I feel all alone in this process.....

[500pearl]

Umm...I was just wandering how to get a job as an Air Marshal..And if I do, where do I go to school, And if I go t school, can my family come..and how much do Air Marshals get paid..and what's the PT standard like...and what's the job like...do you fly alot????????
Just wandering
:D

Scroll up on this very page.

[justdoitking]

What are you the new Mod? Get kicked off 911?

;)

Brother many stand beside you on this one.

Many others think the same thing about Bearcat357. Although I think his intentions are good, the way he presents them needs work. ;)

[Bearcat357]

Brother many stand beside you on this one.

Many others think the same thing about Bearcat357. Although I think his intentions are good, the way he presents them needs work. ;)

You're an idiot....plan and simple..... :rolleyes:

Up_On_Base was just giving me crap...to give me crap....thats all....

We talk to each other about 10 times a day via PM....thats what friends do......

So go back to your hole......:rolleyes:

[GoldBadge]

thanks. good thing I didn't kick him off! I doubt it would ever happen again, but I'd have to just get the flight recrewed... or just sit there on the taxiway until he complied. Positioning and repositioning flights, didn't know you guys could hitch a ride on those. Thats interesting. Sometimes we don't have FAs on those flights, I wouldn't care but I wonder how that would work.

I get a lot more federal LEOs traveling armed than anything else. Lots and lots of USSS, for some reason. Once had a dept of agriculture LEO, and then once the sheriff of some place in LA. I wonder if the sheriff actually needed his piece, but as far as I am concerned the more the merrier.

Do you guys remember the Arab-American Secret Service agent who was kicked off a flight by a major carrier as he was headed to Crawford on assignment? The guy had a book written in Arabic in his carry-on and he made a couple to minor mistakes on his Flying Armed paperwork, but he had full creds and a phone call to his boss confirmed his assignment. I know how that one ended and it wasn't pretty for the airline personnel involved.

[williamske]

Any female "potential" FAMs on this thread? I feel all alone in this process.....


I was just approved to post on the forum this morning.

I received TO on 6/18/09 and accepted. I registered on dashboard and currently my status is on criminal/credit check as of 6/19/09.

I am a woman with no law enforcement background. Graduated college in 2007 with a Bachelors degree. I majored in global studies. I currently work for the feds, DoD, as a technical writer. I've always wanted to get into law enforcement.

I am 5'4 and 126lbs. But I have been circuit training and working out for the past year at least 5 times a week. I will probably not be able to do many, if any, pull ups.

I am hoping to go through the entire process, but I would not be suprised if I was shot down due to not having any previous law enforcement experience.

I came to this board to engage in general discussion regarding the hiring process.

[cop320]

I recieved a final offer with EOD date for NJ on Monday..

[PHILLYFED]

COP320,
Congratulations! Is it Newark or New York? When did you get the final offer??

[Nole96]

Ok everyone,

So I've got a question. What's up with this "Candidate Dashboard"? I just got off the px with the ATSAC from the FO I applied through inquiring as to my status. I'm an April 08 applicant and completed my panel interview, PT, fingerprinting and drug screen in March 2009. I passed all of them and submitted my transcripts and SF-50 to DC at their request and haven't heard anything since. In talking to the ATSAC, he advised he doesn't know anything about hiring status and that LM is still in the process of getting the dashboard up and running. When I advised him that apparently it already was and that many applicants were already accessing it, he came acroos with a tone of doubt and disbelief. He said that he doubted anyone would have access to it yet in light of the fact the FAMS recruiters had not been informed of it and that there was a conference call scheduled later this week to address the status of the dashboard. I was essentially told this is the Fed. and things take awhile and they can't hire 15,000 applicants at once. I assured him I had experience with that and was well aware of the way the Fed works and that I was just inquiring if he could update me since I processed out of his office and had met with him face to face. Oh well!:rolleyes:

Anyone have any thoughts on the dashboard? Is it only accessible once you get an invite from LM or is there a web address I can visit and check my status?

Thanks and stay safe!

[Helo]

I got the link when I got the TO:

https://tsajobs.tsa.dhs.gov/CandidateDashboard/securityWarning.aspx

From what I can tell, it works great.

[birdman0305]

The dashboard works great. Has anyone taken the battery test if so does anyone have any suggestions on what to study for the test?

[Nole96]

Thanks for the info. and the link. Unfortunately I don't have all of the logon info. required to access it. So I put in another call to the "Help Desk" and another service request was made in my name to have an HR and recruiting specialist contact me. Maybe I'll get a response this time. Expecting a miracle.

Stay Safe All!

[justdoitking]

How secure are FAM Jobs with this rhetoric being pushed around congress?

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/tn02_duncan/22062009.shtml

I know research has shown more cost effective ways to prevent 9/11 from happening again. Hence we only had 33 FAMs pre 9/11.......

[williamske]

Are there any Female FAMS on this board? If so please PM me.

Thanks!

[paul354]

From the recent FAM Candidates (go the e-mail last week)...Just curious if anybody has completed the Credit Check/NCIC check yet?

I got a txt message from my credit reporting services that an agency out of the mid-west pulled my info, could this have been them?

[Helo]

I would think so as I had the same thing occur, but no check mark yet!

[rbakous1]

From the recent FAM Candidates (go the e-mail last week)...Just curious if anybody has completed the Credit Check/NCIC check yet?

I got a txt message from my credit reporting services that an agency out of the mid-west pulled my info, could this have been them?

I got my pulled today as well, it's from Kroll Factual Data Services. I'm pretty sure it's associated with the FAM credit check.

[paul354]

Well, if 3 of us got our credits pulled, I guess we can say that's them! :)

[INTHEAIRCOP]

You all want to know what the best thing about being a FAM is?

BEING ON VACATION!

Off for the next 2 weeks and loving my job for only these days.

[jb2000]

Well, if 3 of us got our credits pulled, I guess we can say that's them! :)

My credit was also pulled on 6/24/09. Report Inquiry Stated: "EMPL-KROLL FACTUAL DATA"

Hopefully this is good a good sign, being that they've processed it so quickly after sending the COE/TO last week.

'09 Applicant

[justdoitking]

You all want to know what the best thing about being a FAM is?

BEING ON VACATION!

Off for the next 2 weeks and loving my job for only these days.

So the TSO that was rushed to the hospital has now passed away, how sad

To let them kill you trying to get the job. Bad enough one FAM a year commits suicide.

[KAL5485]

I see the following items in Candidate Dashboard (list below). There is no PT test listed. Where does this fall in the process and why is it not on the Dashboard? Thanks!

Application Received
Met Qualifications
Tentative Offer
Criminal/Credit Check
FAMS Assessment Battery
Panel Interview
Referred for Selection
Conditional Offer
Medical/Drug Evaluation
Pre-Hire Background Investigation
Final Offer
Welcome to TSA!

[Helo]

I think it falls under the assessment battery. What all does that include?

[SigFoo]

Quick question for those of you that had credit pulled - what reporting agency got the inquiry? My report only uses Experian and I wanted to see if the other two major companies were used as it won't show up as an inquiry on my report.

[dtown101]

Quick question for those of you that had credit pulled - what reporting agency got the inquiry? My report only uses Experian and I wanted to see if the other two major companies were used as it won't show up as an inquiry on my report.


mine was pulled under trans-union

[911fedz]

TSA contracts Kroll to pull all three credit bureau's.

[PYTLEO]

I see the following items in Candidate Dashboard (list below). There is no PT test listed. Where does this fall in the process and why is it not on the Dashboard? Thanks!

Application Received
Met Qualifications
Tentative Offer
Criminal/Credit Check
FAMS Assessment Battery
Panel Interview
Referred for Selection
Conditional Offer
Medical/Drug Evaluation
Pre-Hire Background Investigation
Final Offer
Welcome to TSA!
Its done the day of the panel interview.....if you pass the interview......

[SigFoo]

Thanks for the replies - I'll keep an eye out for it!

[INTHEAIRCOP]

So the TSO that was rushed to the hospital has now passed away, how sad

To let them kill you trying to get the job. Bad enough one FAM a year commits suicide.

Yea, it was a miami TSO. He passed out during the run at Markam park in Sunrise, Florida. The Miami FAM medic tried to help but they had to call 911. I guess bad things happen from time to time.

[williamske]

Did a practice PT run through today. My run and push ups are on point. Just got to work on my sit ups and pull ups. I will be running a lot over the next week. I was volunteered by my directorate to run the 5k in July for our base command competition. I can run it, but who knows what it will feel like in hot weather...yuk!

[SD5326]

You all want to know what the best thing about being a FAM is?

BEING ON VACATION!

Off for the next 2 weeks and loving my job for only these days.


LOL! I need a new keyboard now.

[want2baleo86]

Does anyone know when the next class for Artesia will be or at least a guess of when it will be?

[reddogg122]

Hey guys,

I'm in the credit check/criminal check phase of FAM. Do anyone know how stringent the credit check is? I would think with the situation of our present economy many are experiencing financial issues.

[rbakous1]

Hey guys,

I'm in the credit check/criminal check phase of FAM. Do anyone know how stringent the credit check is? I would think with the situation of our present economy many are experiencing financial issues.

It's taken on a case by case basis which will be likely addressed during the BI, if and when that happens. I believe this part of the credit/criminal check is for automatic dis-qualifiers.

[paul354]

how long does the Credit Check/BI normally take? - I saw they started my Credit Check last week.

Esentially, bottom line, I'm asking if I should cancel a vacation I planned for Mid July and Mid August so that I can be by the phone and available to come in for interviews etc.

Any suggestions?

[rbakous1]

how long does the Credit Check/BI normally take? - I saw they started my Credit Check last week.

Esentially, bottom line, I'm asking if I should cancel a vacation I planned for Mid July and Mid August so that I can be by the phone and available to come in for interviews etc.

Any suggestions?

I'm in the same boat as you. I have no clue, hopefully soon.

[BlackSheep77]

Does anyone know when the next class for Artesia will be or at least a guess of when it will be?

Word is the next class in Artesia starts 29 July. At least that is what I’ve been told. I have an EOD of 20 July at the WFO.

As far at the questions about PT tests go, yes, you have to take one. Do yourself a favor and get in at least a little shape before you take it. You may not have to be a PT stud but the FAMs running it certainly didn’t think highly of the pukes who couldn’t hack it.

From what I understand there were 17000 applicants, 400-450 positions available and they were looking to hire within DHS first because the transition is faster. If you’re coming in from outside the GOVT then it may be a minute but with a little luck you might squeak through.

….and WTF is up with that Congressman! Jack *** wanted to seize on some bad apples and now I feel like a jack *** trying to justify why I’m leaving my current job for this one. Whatever, it’s “Game On” 20 July one way or another!

As for me, this is my first post. I’m prior service (Army Infantry), no LEO experience and looking to get out from behind this desk I’ve been shackled to for the last 6 months.

[2ndAnglico]

The dashboard works great. Has anyone taken the battery test if so does anyone have any suggestions on what to study for the test?

How do you access the dashboard to even register?

[500pearl]

I think once you pass the panel you will receive written confirmation along with the appropriate sign in information for the dashboard.

[Nole96]

I wish that was the case. I passed my panel and several other assessments (ie. PT, drug screen, fingerprinting etc.) back in March and never received written confirm. or login info, for the Candidate Dashboard. It sounds like everyone's experience is different though.:cool:

[500pearl]

I had my panel interview already. Are applicants notified via email or postal mail that they are out of the process?

[KAL5485]

How do you access the dashboard to even register?

In some cases (but apparently not all), the link to access the dashboard was sent along with the COE (first step in the process before even the credit check or computer test). No login information was needed as accessing the link, you provide your SSN and then choose your own login name and password and your info is already in there.

[cop320]

I never recieved anything regarding the dashboard and I recieved a final offer. It's different depending on who you talk to.

[Helo]

the dashboard is a new addition. Don't freak out if you haven't been invited to use it.

[DaShwstoppahbk]

Hello everyone, I'm a long time lurker but first time poster.....I'm in the hiring process for the FAMS currently.....I got my COE about 3 months ago, took the computer test shortly after, and had the panel interview, PT test, and SAC interview all in the same day about a month ago.....about a week after the interviews i recieved a TO in my email with all the attachments for my background check and fingerprints....does that mean I passed the interviews?....i know some people will say it means i did if i took the PT test the same day but i actually was informed before i interviewed that i would have the PT test.....I havent heard anything since I submitted my forms for my background and still have the medical checks to go.....thoughts?

[Weapon X]

Hey everyone, this is also my first post but I enjoy reading through the thread for info all the time. I am in the Credit/Criminal Check phase as well. My only real concern is the FAMS Assessment Battery test. Does ANYONE know what this entails? I did not read anything that said/gave us information to review for this computer test I believe it is. Any info would be greatly appreciated, good luck to everyone.

[Badboy3166]

Hello everyone I wanted to know if any one has taken the pannel for the NY division and if so have anyone heard anything. Also did anyone take the pt test the same day as the interview?

[want2baleo86]

Hello everyone I wanted to know if any one has taken the pannel for the NY division and if so have anyone heard anything. Also did anyone take the pt test the same day as the interview?

My preferred duty location is NYC I just got the offer, I have the medical/drug and SF86 next (last two steps). I've moved along pretty quickly I took the CBT end of May, and Interviewed and PT early June. And yes PT is the same day as interview.

[want2baleo86]

Hello everyone, I'm a long time lurker but first time poster.....I'm in the hiring process for the FAMS currently.....I got my COE about 3 months ago, took the computer test shortly after, and had the panel interview, PT test, and SAC interview all in the same day about a month ago.....about a week after the interviews i recieved a TO in my email with all the attachments for my background check and fingerprints....does that mean I passed the interviews?....i know some people will say it means i did if i took the PT test the same day but i actually was informed before i interviewed that i would have the PT test.....I havent heard anything since I submitted my forms for my background and still have the medical checks to go.....thoughts?

I don't mean to be an ***, but think about it, would they give you a TO if you didn't pass?

[Serve_N_Protect]

What does the FAMS Assessment Battery Test consist of?

[want2baleo86]

Just so people stop asking, once you take the CBT, you have to sign a waiver stating you won't discuss its contents.

[Badboy3166]

Oh ok But did they tell you about the pt test before the interview?

[williamske]

Credit was pulled today 7/3 from Factual Data. One step closer?

[want2baleo86]

Oh ok But did they tell you about the pt test before the interview?

Yes

[Badboy3166]

Ok well when the lady called me set up the interview she never said that the pt test would be the same day. She just emailed me the medical waiver form and said i need to have this completed before i can do the test. I asked her if it would be the same day and she said no. My interview was on June 5 and it was raining.

[want2baleo86]

Ok well when the lady called me set up the interview she never said that the pt test would be the same day. She just emailed me the medical waiver form and said i need to have this completed before i can do the test. I asked her if it would be the same day and she said no. My interview was on June 5 and it was raining.

Yea that's odd. I was told of the PT before I went; I had my panel, took the PT, was told of my results, then met with the ASAC, and then a couple weeks later I received my TO. It may be different for selected candidates because there have been other people on this thread who have had similar situations in their process.

[Badboy3166]

Ok Thanks Man One of the members on my panel was the ASAC. I guess Ill wait until I recieve an email.

[DaShwstoppahbk]

i also was told of the PT test before the interview.......got the TO about a week after and sent all my background stuff in online.....does anyone have any time table on how long it takes for your background check to clear?.....its been about a month and i havent heard a thing

[williamske]

Anyone else get their credit pulled over the weekend?

[2ndAnglico]

Credit was pulled today 7/3 from Factual Data. One step closer?

Does anyone know what or pulls your credit? I had an alert that the USOPM had look at my credit. I Know that's the Office of Personnel Management, So is that who is responsible for that part of the process?

[josh.greenawalt]

I'm taking the PT and Interview next week. I can handle push ups 45, sit ups 50 and 1.5 run 12:00, but I suck at pull ups...will that matter.

[want2baleo86]

I'm taking the PT and Interview next week. I can handle push ups 45, sit ups 50 and 1.5 run 12:00, but I suck at pull ups...will that matter.

Yes. They score each event so try to do your best.

[bman72]

So I hear that the hiring is still coming from screeners..... Anyone confirm this? Three in CHS are being xferd to FAMS. I would REALLY like to know if this is true, since I did the entire process, including the online employment agreement, and then ALL communication was ceased!!! Anyone else have this happen to them?

[justdoitking]

So I hear that the hiring is still coming from screeners..... Anyone confirm this? Three in CHS are being xferd to FAMS. I would REALLY like to know if this is true, since I did the entire process, including the online employment agreement, and then ALL communication was ceased!!! Anyone else have this happen to them?

Current Federal Employees! Screeners fit this category......... within TSA & DHS. Nothing new, has been happening for a period of time and they are a 1800 series.

[G-man wannabe]

You got further than me, bman. I applied under the '09 announcement and have heard zilch since I submitted my application. Wonder if it got lost......

[ciel75]

Applied 2009, took the medical last week. Got the call today EOD July 20th. Current federal LEO if that helps. See you guys in New mexico!

[PigsdoFly]

Applied 2009, took the medical last week. Got the call today EOD July 20th Current federal LEO if that helps. See you guys in New mexico!

Congrats but lets not put our FO's up on here.

[DaShwstoppahbk]

bman I am a current federal employee.....submitted all my paper work for my background check about 6 weeks ago......have not heard a thing since.....still have the medical to go.....does anyone have a timetable on the background to clear?

[paul354]

I was wondering the same. My application went into the 'credit/criminal history check' around 6/20, about how long does this process take (on average)

[want2baleo86]

Applied 2009, took the medical last week. Got the call today EOD July 20th. Current federal LEO if that helps. See you guys in New mexico!

Congrats! Are you going to your FO before you head to the academy?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

This is for the current FAMs. You guys have any idea what this whole senior FAM is? Will it be a raise if a I band FAM gets senior FAM? Whats the deal with this new thing?

[Helo]

I've browsed through the thread, but does anyone know the specifics of the PFT or a link to it?

[hiltonheadgolf]

Page 244

https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/pdf/OTD_Pre-Training_Guide.pdf

[BlackSheep77]

Can someone shed some light (not too much) on this for me? How does overtime work if they even offer it and when the schedule is made is there more off time built into the schedule after long missions? Some basic generalities will work.

[Helo]

Page 244

https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/pdf/OTD_Pre-Training_Guide.pdf

Thank you.

[PigsdoFly]

Can someone shed some light (not too much) on this for me? How does overtime work if they even offer it and when the schedule is made is there more off time built into the schedule after long missions? Some basic generalities will work.

OT...hahaha, jk. OT MUST be scheduled no matter what. If your schedule calls for a 9.5 hr day and you are delayed and it ends up being 16 hrs then its LEAP, and you get all the LEAP you can eat here baby....

[Weapon X]

How often Do FAM's realistically work on the weekends? Can they still maintain a normal social life, or is going to bars/restaurants Completely not allowed on Friday/Saturday nights? Thanks

[justdoitking]

OT...hahaha, jk. OT MUST be scheduled no matter what. If your schedule calls for a 9.5 hr day and you are delayed and it ends up being 16 hrs then its LEAP, and you get all the LEAP you can eat here baby....

This is true but keep in mind OT is coming! Once the OT Lawsuit is completed, clarification will be sought on what is and isn't LEAP for a FAM. Without getting into how the portal (schedule) works to much, must say to the FAMS credit they have been and are working on making it better, but are still struggling.

[gonefishin]

How often Do FAM's realistically work on the weekends? Can they still maintain a normal social life, or is going to bars/restaurants Completely not allowed on Friday/Saturday nights? Thanks

Sometimes you have weekends off sometimes you don't. There have been several times when I have planned to do something on a Friday or Saturday night only to get stuck somewhere due to flight delays and cancellations. Maintaining a normal social life is difficult because your days off are constantly rotating.

[ChadRees]

To many pages to go though to find out, but have any of you heard about this? http://www.sitnews.us/0609/062909/062909_shns_airmarshals.html

Its talking about how a senator wants to cut the budget or even get ride of the air marshals because they dont do anything.

Anyones have any Knowledge of this?

[911fedz]

To many pages to go though to find out, but have any of you heard about this? http://www.sitnews.us/0609/062909/062909_shns_airmarshals.html

Its talking about how a senator wants to cut the budget or even get ride of the air marshals because they dont do anything.

Anyones have any Knowledge of this?

This will never happen if anything they would slow down on hiring, but the FAMS are here to stay........ Believe me, we can't offered another 9/11 on our hands.

[ChadRees]

They should just redesign planes so that the only way to get into the cockpit is via a exterior door, so you can only get in and out when landed.

Or the responsibility to hire a security officer to be on each and every plane be with the airlines.

[SD5326]

They should just redesign planes so that the only way to get into the cockpit is via a exterior door, so you can only get in and out when landed..


Who is they? The airlines have no money if you haven't noticed. Great theory though.

[DaShwstoppahbk]

does anyone have an idea how many more hiring classes the FAMS plan on doing this year.....i know there is one comin up do you guys think they will hold off on another until the next fiscal year starts in OCT?

[justdoitking]

They should just redesign planes so that the only way to get into the cockpit is via a exterior door, so you can only get in and out when landed.

Or the responsibility to hire a security officer to be on each and every plane be with the airlines.

If people think tyhe flying public is going to stand back and watch hijackers take over a plane to do like 9/11, lets be honest with each other here. It will not happen, although FAMS is another deterent, just like hardened cock pits doors and screeners etc.... nothing is perfect or fail proof. Problem is you pay to retrofit aircraft once and you pay FAMS 3 x's what a screener gets paid, to cover how many flights? I think thats what is being said in a very rude way by the congress person.

But I agree FAMS are here to stay, how many and what configuration becomes the question.

[justdoitking]

duplicate post

[Pvt. Cowboy]

Pretty comical regarding that article and Rep. Duncan, and how DHS was appropriated $860 million much to his dismay.

Ironic how he throws jabs at a few of the Air Marshals that have been involved in DUI's or narcotics incidents. Geez, we've NEVER seen anyone at the state government level ever commit any crime.... :rolleyes:

Some people just don't get it.

[Helo]

I just passed the credit check area on the dashboard! On to the assessment battery!:cool:

What does that involve? haha

[rbakous1]

I just passed the credit check area on the dashboard! On to the assessment battery!:cool:

What does that involve? haha

Right on man. Me Too :D

[500pearl]

After the credit check is the computer based test.

[rbakous1]

After the credit check is the computer based test.

I heard that the test is administered at a neutral site and cannot be taken from one's personal computer? Can you confirm?

[500pearl]

Correct, it will not be administered at your local field office.

[11ADuece]

same thing here -just checked dashboard and cleared credit/criminal - good luck on the CBT guys!

[MPb2727]

Completed criminal/credit, prepared for the next phase.

[josh.greenawalt]

What is this dashboard you guys have been talking about? I've completed the BT and going for PT and Interview this week. Am I missing something here?

[jb2000]

I just checked my Dashboard page. I also passed the the credit/criminal history check today.

[hiltonheadgolf]

What is this dashboard you guys have been talking about? I've completed the BT and going for PT and Interview this week. Am I missing something here?


Some people were given access to it when they received their tentative offers, some did not. If you're already doing your PT and Panel then you're far enough along that it might not mean much for you having it. Basically just shows what steps you have completed.

[TPC4321]

Hey guys new to the forum here. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the academy is like for FAM's is it para military style like a police academy i.e. marching everywhere, standing at attention, or is it more like college? thanks

[williamske]

Also passed criminal/credit check today B)

[Blind Justice]

Passed the Criminal/Credit check....

Onto the Assessment Battery....

Good luck guys

[psuphish05]

Ditto here...

Good luck everyone!

[DaShwstoppahbk]

it seems to me that i am way further ahead than most on this thread.....I passed my criminal check like 3 months ago.....took the panel in may....and got a TO about a week after.....i am now in the eQIP part of the process and waiting for my sf-86 to clear.....havent heard anything in over 6 weeks....bad sign?

[iamjay27]

Hey guys how is going, this is my first time posting on this thread, I just wanted to see if anyone on here is processing out of the Tampa FO.

I just checked the candidate status board and I passed the criminal/credit check phase and moving on to the battery test. Just curious what that consists of?

[Helo]

Compared to other agencies, FAMS does not seem to have a website that details out the entire process (at least not that I can find).

I have been searching for the past hour or so, and from what I gather the battery will consist of 1) psychological tests, 2) panel interview, and 3) a physical.

[BPD Once]

Hey guys new to the forum here. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the academy is like for FAM's is it para military style like a police academy i.e. marching everywhere, standing at attention, or is it more like college? thanks

The training is like a structured college curriculum. While at Artesia it is relaxed for the most part with structured PT and classes. They go by "big boy" rules for the most part. You will see the border patrol candidates standing in formation, marching, getting smoked, and catching public *** chewings. We do not have to endure that. In ACY (Atlantic City) it is also structured and depending on who the class adviser is determines how laid back it will be. The training can be intense at times but for the most part it is a breeze. The most important part is to be open minded and have a good attitude, especially if you are a prior leo.

[BPD Once]

Anyone in the know have any info about an incident in Hawaii a few months ago. I just heard about it the other day and was wondering if it was a buddy of mine. Shoot me a PM so info and names can stay off the main page. Thanks.

[Deskjockey101]

Yar, still haven't gotten Dashboard confirmation as to whether I made it through the Criminal/Credit portion yet, that little "in process" airplane continues to haunt me.

Congrats to all who received confirmation thus far.!

[Spammail.dj]

Applied 2009, took the medical last week. Got the call today EOD July 20th. Current federal LEO if that helps. See you guys in New mexico!

Passed Criminal/Credit check and I'm scheduled for the exam. Any ideas when the next academy is?

[Helo]

Passed Criminal/Credit check and now I'm scheduled for the exam. Any ideas what the exam is like or how I should study?

I think its a psych exam, so there's no real way to study. You are what you are... (please correct me if I'm wrong and there's more to the test)

[Fedman 111]

Scheduled my computer based assessment for next week. Good Luck to all others taking the assessment soon. It looks like we're moving along. I just hope I don't end up in a freeze like last year.

[rbakous1]

Scheduled my computer based assessment for next week. Good Luck to all others taking the assessment soon. It looks like we're moving along. I just hope I don't end up in a freeze like last year.

How did you get notified, phone call or e-mail?

[Helo]

Notified through the dashboard, but verified (and given next steps) through e-mail.

[rbakous1]

Notified through the dashboard, but verified (and given next steps) through e-mail.

E-mail for me (spam folder) glad I check it. Good Luck to everyone.

[iamjay27]

E-mail for me (spam folder) glad I check it. Good Luck to everyone.

Hahah, I know, when I was waiting for my conditional offer I thought that it went to my spam too and I deleted by accident. Good thing it came through a couple of days later.

I am also scheduled for the exam!

It sounds like some people didn't get the email with the link to the candidate status board, I have heard from a friend of my who is also applying that his first email didn't contain the link, but he got a second one that provided him with the link to the candidate status board.

[Cman21]

Just registered for the exam for July 22 in Newark.

[Doggie123]

Just received the email that I passed the Credit/Criminal Check.

Scheduled the battery test for next week.

[psuphish05]

Scheduled mine for two weeks in the evening.

Good luck everyone.

[jb2000]

mine is Tuesday morning.... hopefully things keep moving along quickly

[williamske]

got the invite for the test. im going to schedule the date.

[Blind Justice]

Taking my exam Monday morning at 0830...

Want to get it done and over with...

[ciel75]

Anybody have an eod date for the end of this month? PM me if you do.

[jchughes05]

My PC test is the 20th at 0900

[brickster720]

i know with my other apps USSS SA&UD there was an exam with potential for an initial afterwards... I don't get that feeling from scheduling the TSA assessment.

Anyone have any advice on dress code for it? I imagine business casual since it's just a testing center, but anyone's experience/input is greatly welcomed.
thanks

[williamske]

I do not have any experience with police testing. I was wondering if anyone recommends the "prep course" they offer at police quiz?

http://www.policequiz.com/federal.shtml?agency=Federal%20Air%20Marshal&state=US&pop=1

[hiltonheadgolf]

I do not have any experience with police testing. I was wondering if anyone recommends the "prep course" they offer at police quiz?

http://www.policequiz.com/federal.shtml?agency=Federal%20Air%20Marshal&state=US&pop=1

Read the description for the prep for FAMS, then read the one for the USSS, then the FBI.....its the same thing, save your money.

[Weapon X]

So I am scheduled for my Battery Assessment on July 21st. Are any of you studying any material for this? If so what and can I get a copy of it?

Thanks everyone good luck.

[500pearl]

can't really prepare for it, just a good night's sleep, good breakfast, go in with a clear head. oh yea TAKE YOUR TIME and don't be afraid to use all of the time given to you, which is 3 hours I believe.

I thought it was simple, completed in 45 minutes and there was a 10 minute mandatory break in between. I left after 55 minutes and passed but I highly recommend using all of the allotted time, since there is no penalty for using all of the time.

[Weapon X]

Thanks a lot 500Pearl.

If I remember reading correctly you are a Marshall already? How long did it take until you reported to training from you Battery Exam?

Really appreciate all the words and wisdom my friend.

[500pearl]

No I am not a an air marshal, I wish I was though.

[Weapon X]

How far along are you? What's your timeline look like

[500pearl]

I'm probably the exception with slow movement, so you don't want to use my time line as the standard.

[Helo]

How long did it take you to find out the results of the battery test?

[500pearl]

Ten days, if you pass, you will be emailed a notice indicating you passed and that the next step will be the panel. Your local FO will contact you regarding the specifics for the panel.

[Helo]

Nice. Thanks pearl.

[500pearl]

Yea but it may be longer than 10 days, not sure if that's the average time for everyone.

[DPO]

How long did it take you to find out the results of the battery test?

I took the test on Saturday and was told I would get the results either that night or sometime Monday. Still waiting...hopefully I'll get the email by tonight.

As far as the earlier question about how to dress, I wore business casual and I was the only one there other than the lady administering the test. The first thing she said was, "You didnt have to get all dressed up for me, you could have come in your pajamas" lol. I would still recommend at a least a nice shirt and pants.

[Helo]

Yeah, these are just testing centers that administer tests of all kinds. They are not a federal entity, just a location to test for certifications and/or for new hires by a company (or in our case, the gov't).

[hiltonheadgolf]

I took the test on Saturday and was told I would get the results either that night or sometime Monday. Still waiting...hopefully I'll get the email by tonight.

As far as the earlier question about how to dress, I wore business casual and I was the only one there other than the lady administering the test. The first thing she said was, "You didnt have to get all dressed up for me, you could have come in your pajamas" lol. I would still recommend at a least a nice shirt and pants.

On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the overall difficulty ?

[500pearl]

4 for the avg person but i guess 7 or 8 if your mind doesn't process quickly

[DPO]

4 for the avg person but i guess 7 or 8 if your mind doesn't process quickly

I would agree with this. I took and passed the FBI phase I test and I would say that the FAMS test was slightly more difficult.

[500pearl]

other way around.....i had the pre-logical reasoning Phase I with math section

[weasel3o3]

There has been abundance of discussion on dress code in the process for various agencies; personally I follow a standard that if the step that your on has "interview" or "panel" in the name or you know you will be answering questions in a person to person(s) situation than by all means wear a suit. In fact, don't just wear "a" suit, wear a good suit.

But if I'm going in to take a test where I'm not talking to human beings who are going to be assessing me, than I see no need to be "that guy" and wear a 3 piece to do some bubble sheets, or type on a computer. And I don't see agencies looking at those candidates badly either.

That said; its usually better to overdress than underdress, but using personal judgement is important as well.

[Deskjockey101]

Say, has anyone gotten confirmation/rejected for the assessment battery in the Chicago area?

Dashboard says my criminal/credit check is still pending, but it appears that candidates in other areas of the country have been getting confirmation for a few days now.....and of course, I'm going crazy wanting to find out whether I'm moving on.

Thanks in advance if anyone has heard anything here in the great Chi-town....

[brickster720]

There has been abundance of discussion on dress code in the process for various agencies; personally I follow a standard that if the step that your on has "interview" or "panel" in the name or you know you will be answering questions in a person to person(s) situation than by all means wear a suit. In fact, don't just wear "a" suit, wear a good suit.

But if I'm going in to take a test where I'm not talking to human beings who are going to be assessing me, than I see no need to be "that guy" and wear a 3 piece to do some bubble sheets, or type on a computer. And I don't see agencies looking at those candidates badly either.

That said; its usually better to overdress than underdress, but using personal judgement is important as well.

Thanks, I definitely wore a good suit when I had my POST ( for Secret Service UD) and TEA (for Secret Service SA), but I since I'm out of the WFO they scored them right there and moved us for initials.

I'm hoping my preparation for the TEA and POST will pay off for this FAMS Battery... especially if this battery doesn't ask me to do complex interest rate calculations!

[Fedman 111]

I took my CBT today and I was in and out. Good luck to all of you still waiting to take it. I'll post my results as soon as I get them...... I hope within the next week or so.

[FD2FED1977]

Long time follower, first time poster....I, too, have scheduled to take the battery, my date is 7/28.

[FD2FED1977]

Anyone else ever wonder if the long wait is a test itself??? :rolleyes:

[PYTLEO]

I can't believe I move through this process so fast...See ya in NM later this month!

[paul354]

Congratz! Do you mind posting your time line or PMing it to me. I'm just curious so I can compare to myself.

[PYTLEO]

The training is like a structured college curriculum. While at Artesia it is relaxed for the most part with structured PT and classes. They go by "big boy" rules for the most part. You will see the border patrol candidates standing in formation, marching, getting smoked, and catching public *** chewings. We do not have to endure that. In ACY (Atlantic City) it is also structured and depending on who the class adviser is determines how laid back it will be. The training can be intense at times but for the most part it is a breeze. The most important part is to be open minded and have a good attitude, especially if you are a prior leo.
So relieved to hear that.....

[500pearl]

I think it is useless to compare time lines because there are many differences between yourself and others before you. The most influential factor I have observed is the applicant's current occupation. For example, it is needless to say many posters on the forum are also currently employed in the law enforcement community, whether it be city, state, or federal. It is an understatement to say that this factor is a determining factor facilitating an applicant's velocity throughout the process.

[PYTLEO]

Any tips for getting through Artesia on the down time/weekends?

[specialagentfaz]

For those of you who have taken the battery already, would you rate it harder or easier then the TEA or Phase I with the bureau?

[PigsdoFly]

Any tips for getting through Artesia on the down time/weekends?

ALCOHOL...jk. Get out on the trips for the weekends and WORK OUT.

[BPD Once]

I was there during this time of year. I would recommend going on some of the excursions they offer on the weekends. The caverns are neat as well as the lakes trip. Roswell is a dive so I would avoid that altogether. There is always The Whalehead in town, they have great salsa and cold beer. Aside from that, workout and rest. Once you get done with training your body will become messed up so get your rest while you can and develop a workout routine that you can stick with. Otherwise, enjoy training I personally thought Artesia was more pleasurable than ACY as for as structure, accommodations, etc...

Good luck.

[ButterChunk]

I was there during this time of year. I would recommend going on some of the excursions they offer on the weekends. The caverns are neat as well as the lakes trip. Roswell is a dive so I would avoid that altogether. There is always The Whalehead in town, they have great salsa and cold beer. Aside from that, workout and rest. Once you get done with training your body will become messed up so get your rest while you can and develop a workout routine that you can stick with. Otherwise, enjoy training I personally thought Artesia was more pleasurable than ACY as for as structure, accommodations, etc...

Good luck.

Wow! You must have had a really good time there since you don't remember the name!! :eek:

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I got to meet the new K9 FAMs today. I still can't understand why the FAM service has a K9 program. But the guys wo got the gig must be happy as heck since they no longer have to fly and get a take home car.

[koolaid_002]

Hi intheaircop. I was wondering with the pt test, are you still graded on participation and not pass fail? went to a job fair about a year ago and theat what the recruiter said? thanks Kenny

[AGInvestigator]

For those of you who have taken the battery already, would you rate it harder or easier then the TEA or Phase I with the bureau?

Never taken Phase I for the Bureau, but it was definitely harder than the IEA test. To be honest, it kind of reminded me a lot of an easier version of the LSAT. Nothing really you can do to prepare for it. Just get a good night of sleep and take your time.

[BPD Once]

Hi intheaircop. I was wondering with the pt test, are you still graded on participation and not pass fail? went to a job fair about a year ago and theat what the recruiter said? thanks Kenny

It is based off of participation. Of course you are expected to do well but if you don't it doesn't hurt you. I have actually seen guys walk the run and jump up to touch the bar for pull ups.

[brickster720]

Never taken Phase I for the Bureau, but it was definitely harder than the IEA test. To be honest, it kind of reminded me a lot of an easier version of the LSAT. Nothing really you can do to prepare for it. Just get a good night of sleep and take your time.

Easier version of the LSAT?!? Holy crap! Does that mean it's similar to the investigative portion of the TEA?

[Blind Justice]

Never taken Phase I for the Bureau, but it was definitely harder than the IEA test. To be honest, it kind of reminded me a lot of an easier version of the LSAT. Nothing really you can do to prepare for it. Just get a good night of sleep and take your time.

My thoughts exactly. I sat down not knowing what to expect, then it starts and I feel like im tryin to get into law school again. Only this time when I was done I wasnt pulling my hair out...

[BlackSheep77]

It is based off of participation. Of course you are expected to do well but if you don't it doesn't hurt you. I have actually seen guys walk the run and jump up to touch the bar for pull ups.

It’s one thing if an agent is hurt or working through an injury but to bleatingly blow off a PT test is BS. God forbid I ever actually see an agent do some **** like that because I will taunt and harass them until they have no other option than to do PT or quit. Maybe it’s the Army Infantryman in me talking but any federal agent who is charged with protecting the American people needs to take pride in their job and do it best they can. I’ve noticed a lot of questions about the PT test on here over the last few weeks I’ve been reading the forum and I’m a little surprised. It seems to me that people are really scared of it. It’s a breeze and if you can’t score at least in the fair to good categories now then you should really consider a career as something other than a law enforcement officer.

This is the FAM PT test:

Pull Ups
Sit Ups
Push Ups
1.5 Mile Run

The scores you need to get can be found here: https://tsa.vitapowered.com/Forms/PhysicalTrainingAssessment.pdf

This post may not make me any friends but I’ve seen too many people tip toe around this issue. It’s a point of pride and respect for one’s responsibilities.

[Helo]

To answer a previous post, I believe Phase I of the FBI test was much more difficult than this test. That goes for their PT test as well.

[williamske]

Is it safe to say that good preparation material would be to study logical reasoning questions? Because if that is the case this really is not a test that you can study for, you can study the type of questions - but not the material. I took the LSAT and have some prep books. I may just hit them up. I have less than 4 days to prepare. Lets do it

[Weapon X]

Hey everyone,

So assuming everything works out with our Panel Interview and PT exam. What is the base salary looking like? Are there different base salaries depending on experience? How does it work?

thanks!

[Fedman 111]

Is it safe to say that good preparation material would be to study logical reasoning questions? Because if that is the case this really is not a test that you can study for, you can study the type of questions - but not the material. I took the LSAT and have some prep books. I may just hit them up. I have less than 4 days to prepare. Lets do it

Dude,

Just get a good nights rest and you'll be fine. You need your mind running at 100% if you can get something good to eat before going in. Good Luck

[bman72]

How do I get the "Dashboard"..?

Thanks

[500pearl]

You can call the TSA helpline.

[bman72]

You can call the TSA helpline.

They knew of nothing I've done. I have done the entire interview process,,,even signed the on-line employment agreement. Helpdesk has no record of this.

What gives???.....anyone?

[Helo]

The dashboard is for the newer run of candidates. Don't worry if you're not a part of it. (but for them to have zero record of all of the stuff you've done? What? )

[want2baleo86]

Anyone who has been to Artesia: Is there specific requirements for PT gear, such as color of running shoes and other PT gear? Or do we get all that info once we receive our final offer?

[BPD Once]

FLETC will issue you PT gear (make sure to go at least a size up on the shorts and enjoy the socks) daily in the gym. As far as running shoes wear what is comfortable and durable.

[Helo]

What do you mean by "enjoy the socks?" haha

[want2baleo86]

FLETC will issue you PT gear (make sure to go at least a size up on the shorts and enjoy the socks) daily in the gym. As far as running shoes wear what is comfortable and durable.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to it.

[justdoitking]

I got to meet the new K9 FAMs today. I still can't understand why the FAM service has a K9 program. But the guys wo got the gig must be happy as heck since they no longer have to fly and get a take home car.

In the Air not all of them are Guys. LOL

[rbakous1]

Called the TSA job hotline and found out I passed. Dashboard hasn't been updated yet though. IF anyone else recently took the test I suggest calling if you're anxious.

[MontgCounty33]

I've never seen an open announcement for the Air Marshals......are the announcements posted on USA JOBS, or the TSA website?

Just curious

[rbakous1]

I've never seen an open announcement for the Air Marshals......are the announcements posted on USA JOBS, or the TSA website?

Just curious

USAJobs. You can e-mail TSA asking them when the next announcement will come out, and they'll tell you. They even send you a coutesty notification when it does. I did that last Dec when they told me about the announcement that came out in Jan.

[MontgCounty33]

USAJobs. You can e-mail TSA asking them when the next announcement will come out, and they'll tell you. They even send you a coutesty notification when it does. I did that last Dec when they told me about the announcement that came out in Jan.

Thank You sir

[BPD Once]

What do you mean by "enjoy the socks?" haha

The socks are rockin it '80's style. Tube socks with blue and yellow stripes with just a touch of dry rot. They are awesome and mandatory unless that changed recently.

[PYTLEO]

Yuck! Yuck! Yuck!

[gonefishin]

The socks are rockin it '80's style. Tube socks with blue and yellow stripes with just a touch of dry rot. They are awesome and mandatory unless that changed recently.

My favorite part was the Lt Jim Dangle blue shorts....they seperated the men from the boys...if you know what I mean

[Helo]

horrible. haha!


So which is the TSA hotline, the # ending in 7990, or 7992.

[hiltonheadgolf]

horrible. haha!


So which is the TSA hotline, the # ending in 7990, or 7992.

Both will take you to the same place I believe.

[Helo]

WooHoo! I passed! :cool:

[rbakous1]

WooHoo! I passed! :cool:

Congratulations, I know how you must feel. Did you call and find out, e-mail come through, or did the dashboard update?