Air Marshal Job Open !

[Patrio72]

How do you know your packet has gone in front of the Panel? Do they call and inform you of this?

Patriot72

[FMF Doc]

I'm trying to get in touch with one of the recruiters from the WFO. Can anybody help me out with this? What did ya'll think of the medical on Wed. Conference room was a bit chilly huh? :)

[AWVet]

I called the recruiter to check on my status. He stated that my packet was already sent to Washington.

[GuyinCali]

I called the recruiter to check on my status. He stated that my packet was already sent to Washington.

Does anyone know if their is a recruiter at each FO or just at HR? If anyone can share or PM me the recruiter's number in the LAFO or SFO I would appreciate it. Thanks and good luck to all waiting...

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[GitmoVet]

For all of you, like me, waiting for the call and worried it won't come, try a new perspective. Think of everyday without the call as another day without a "Thanks, but no thanks" e-mail.:D

[AlcatrazT2]

Hello everyone,
I've been following the thread for some time now and just got the opportunity to post.
I'm 21 years of age and in about two weeks I will have my Bachelors Degree in the field of Psychology. I have been doing Private Security for approximately two years and work for a very well known Director in Southern California.
Aviation as well as Law Enforcement has always interested me. When I came across the Federal Air Marshal position, I knew it was the thing for me.
Realisitcally speaking, what are my chances?
I'll be taking a trip back home three days after graduation and will begin applying the first week of August.
Any suggestions would be appreciated greatly!
Thank you very much and God Bless.

[Navalaircrewman]

I called the recruiter to check on my status. He stated that my packet was already sent to Washington.

It's weird..I got hired without talking to a recruiter. I don't even know anything about this recruiter thing

[heat6]

This is the first I'm hearing about recruiters, where can I get the number for the Houston FO recuriter?

[Bear1005]

To AMVet

Any chance you did your PT/UA/Written Tests on April 25th? If so you were in there with me. If not you are the second person to go through the FAM process and going through OCS at the moment.

To Heat6

I am not sure about other FO's but Orlando actually has a recruiter slot. The recruiter was actually one of the 3 people doing the panel interview in Orlando. You could always try to call the FO number for Houston and ask if they have a recruiter there.

[Thor1911]

I believe every Field office has an agent assigned to recruiting. He/she is involved with the phone and pannel interviews as well as scheduling the PT tests.

[Up_On_Base]

Hello everyone,
I've been following the thread for some time now and just got the opportunity to post.
I'm 21 years of age and in about two weeks I will have my Bachelors Degree in the field of Psychology. I have been doing Private Security for approximately two years and work for a very well known Director in Southern California.
Aviation as well as Law Enforcement has always interested me. When I came across the Federal Air Marshal position, I knew it was the thing for me.
Realisitcally speaking, what are my chances?
I'll be taking a trip back home three days after graduation and will begin applying the first week of August.
Any suggestions would be appreciated greatly!
Thank you very much and God Bless.

No one can tell you what your chances are, it's a crap shoot for most of us. Many people you compete against have military/FLETC/prior LE etc...but there are several people w/o that experience who got the call.

I would not worry about getting picked up, you are young enough to re-apply if needed. Plus you are out west, there are tons of agencies looking for good people and pay great. I know PHX/LAPD/CHP/Costa Mesa/ etc all need people, that kind of experience is priceless if you want to make a jump to FED LE moving forward.

[AWVet]

[QUOTE=Bear1005;1251613]To AMVet

Any chance you did your PT/UA/Written Tests on April 25th? If so you were in there with me. If not you are the second person to go through the FAM process and going through OCS at the moment.


Bear1005:

Yes, I also completed the PT/UA/Written Tests on 4/25. Has there been any word on anyone in our group who has received the call?

[TPR1676]

Hey Guys Great Forum. I Have Approximately 14 Years Of Law Enforcement And I Can Honestly Say The Fam Application Process Is Going Very Good.
Can Anyone Help Me With The Following:

-on An Average, How Many Lay-overs Per Week?
-does The Agency Pay For My Education?
-how Is The Academy?
-is There Anyway To Reach Top Pay At The "i" Level?
-overall Pro's And Con's.

Thank You. This Is An Excellent Forum. Good Attitude And A Lots Of Helpful Information. Good Luck To All Of You!!!!

[AWVet]

Does anyone know how much weight being a 10% disabled veteran brings to the application process?

[BPD Once]

Congrats to all who got the offer. I haven't been on lately but I am in. WFO this summer Artesia shortly down the road. For all those waiting, just hang in there your time will come. I lucked out because the FO I wanted needed a lot of people.

[Bear1005]

[QUOTE=Bear1005;1251613]To AMVet

Any chance you did your PT/UA/Written Tests on April 25th? If so you were in there with me. If not you are the second person to go through the FAM process and going through OCS at the moment.


Bear1005:

Yes, I also completed the PT/UA/Written Tests on 4/25. Has there been any word on anyone in our group who has received the call?

I haven't heard anything from anyone yet. Actually I haven't heard of anyone off the new announcement to be called for an EOD from the Orlando FO. I got my COE like a week ago, I noticed you got yours in March. We are all just waiting. Hang in there brother, it will happen.

[GWARDEN234]

AWVET
I know plenty of guys who had preferance and did not get an offer and plenty who did. I think it will get you a look but most is up to you. Other agencies like fish and game put so much weight on preferance you get hired with minimal qualifications because of preferance, especialy ten points. NCIS uses preferance at the first stage testing adding points to your test and such and then it is up to you. Every agency is different when it comes to preferance weight but it could not hurt. It certainly should get you a phone interview

[AWVet]

Thanks for the insight GWARDEN234.

[malipas]

Hi,
Did anybody get call for Chicago field office. I I got call from 703...I am wandering how many new FAMS go to Chicago...

[blueshield22]

Got a call from TSA investigator who needed me to send some documents showing payoffs for a couple of old accounts from when I was in College. She said my credit was ok but that the accounts needed to be setteled. Has anyone else had this happen prior to signing their final offer letter and if so what was the result?

[Navalaircrewman]

Got a call from TSA investigator who needed me to send some documents showing payoffs for a couple of old accounts from when I was in College. She said my credit was ok but that the accounts needed to be setteled. Has anyone else had this happen prior to signing their final offer letter and if so what was the result?

I have not had that happen. But what they are doing is a prelimanary check of credit and background. Once those accounts are cleared and that is the only issue....then they will forward the eqip paperwork to OPM where the "official" background investigation is started. They're just making sure that there shouldn't be any hangups during the OPM process. That way, theTSA can issue an interim TS clearance while the full OPM investigation is in progress.

[AlcatrazT2]

Guys, as I mentioned earlier on, I'll be graduating June 14th but will be taking an immediate trip and won't be back until August 2.

Would it be reasonable for me to apply now or should I do it when I come back?

Thanks in advance.

[ButterChunk]

Guys, as I mentioned earlier on, I'll be graduating June 14th but will be taking an immediate trip and won't be back until August 2.

Would it be reasonable for me to apply now or should I do it when I come back?

Thanks in advance.

I think most will agree that the longer you wait, the more you decrease your chances. They don't seem to be letting the grass grow under their feet in terms of hiring. I expect that some of the push is just due to the pending administration change.

[blueshield22]

I have not had that happen. But what they are doing is a prelimanary check of credit and background. Once those accounts are cleared and that is the only issue....then they will forward the eqip paperwork to OPM where the "official" background investigation is started. They're just making sure that there shouldn't be any hangups during the OPM process. That way, theTSA can issue an interim TS clearance while the full OPM investigation is in progress.

Thanks! That was what I was thinking....the three guys with me out of the ****** FO have not taken our physicals yet though we have been selected and I was just wondering if for me that was what was holding all the final process up? How long does it usually take to sign your final. I was called last monday by "703" for the LAFO and have not heard anything since. I just hope I have a final word with enough time to move my family and give my current department two weeks.

[PigsdoFly]

Hey Guys Great Forum. I Have Approximately 14 Years Of Law Enforcement And I Can Honestly Say The Fam Application Process Is Going Very Good.
Can Anyone Help Me With The Following:

-on An Average, How Many Lay-overs Per Week?
-does The Agency Pay For My Education?
-how Is The Academy?
-is There Anyway To Reach Top Pay At The "i" Level?
-overall Pro's And Con's.

Thank You. This Is An Excellent Forum. Good Attitude And A Lots Of Helpful Information. Good Luck To All Of You!!!!


-It really all depends what FO your at put count on 1, maybe 2.
-Education? HA nope, but they did say that they might start to pay if the course is directly related to the job.
-The academies will give you great training, I enjoyed them both. If you have prior LE then they should be cake for you.
-Reaching the top of "I" could be possible but it will be extremely hard. You will have to get in band raises every year, but it would take years to achieve.
Pros- great training, pay, travel, hotel points, meeting new ppl
Cons- meeting new ppl, dealing with ppl, delays, missing family events, missing your wife/husband and kids

Good luck, I have found it does take a special person for this job, its not for everyone. Every FAM will tell you that. Our mission is to FLY, remember that. Many ppl come here with ideas they will get land based assignments right off the bat, not going to happen.

[jtk05710]

Question...? I applied on May 10,2008 or so through Avue Tech and submitted my app to FMS. I recieved an email stating I quailfy for the postion and would be recieveing a phone call for an interview in the near future. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on exactly how long until i would get this call? Future meaning how long? Also wondering if the FMS seeks certfied officers with exp more often then not? I am 26 yrs old and have been a police officer for 4 years here in Delaware. I recieved my B.S. degree in CJ in Jan 2008. Will this help with this agency or not? Is there anyone I should contact with FMS via telephone ? If so how would I obtain this number other then having to speak with Avue Tech?

[thenagain]

Question...? I applied on May 10,2008 or so through Avue Tech and submitted my app to FMS. I recieved an email stating I quailfy for the postion and would be recieveing a phone call for an interview in the near future. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on exactly how long until i would get this call? Future meaning how long? Also wondering if the FMS seeks certfied officers with exp more often then not? I am 26 yrs old and have been a police officer for 4 years here in Delaware. I recieved my B.S. degree in CJ in Jan 2008. Will this help with this agency or not? Is there anyone I should contact with FMS via telephone ? If so how would I obtain this number other then having to speak with Avue Tech?

Of course the degree will not hurt your chances and neither will the LE experience. However, you don't have to read too much of the thread to realize that the FAM process appears to have no rhyme or reason to the way it works. For some the process moves quickly, and for others it does not move at all. It does not seem to matter whether or not you have applicable experience or not. In my opinion, a FAM job is not entry level, but it tends to be treated that way. Good luck with process and your best bet is to move on with your life and pretend you never applied. The calls come at the strangest time.

[GitmoVet]

From the outside it may seem there is no rhyme or reason, and maybe as far as when the call comes is random, but as far as selection goes, no one is in the interview room with anyone else, and I know I didn't get the results to my tests. I will labor under the belief that those are more of a determining factor than background.

[TPR1676]

Pigsdofly....thanks For Your Response. I Did A Lot Of Research Before Applying With The Fam's. From What I've Gathered, You Have To Make Sure You're Ready To Downshift And Look At Law Enforcement In A New Way. It Won't Be Pro-active Anymore, But I'm Ok With That. After So Many Years Of In-servive, Patrol, Arrest, Court, Ovetime And Today's Society....yeah It's Time For Something New. I Really Hope That Applicants Understand That. I Would Hate For You Guys To Go Through This Long Process If Your Intensions Are To Take Bad Guys To Jail Everyday. Please Don't Get Me Wrong, I Know The Responsibilities Of A Fam Are Just As Important As A City, County Or State Officer.
For The Time Being, I Guess Most Of Us Are Just Wainting For "703." Best Of Luck To All. Has Anyone Received Any Calls For The Miami Fo?

[Up_On_Base]

Pigsdofly....thanks For Your Response. I Did A Lot Of Research Before Applying With The Fam's. From What I've Gathered, You Have To Make Sure You're Ready To Downshift And Look At Law Enforcement In A New Way. It Won't Be Pro-active Anymore, But I'm Ok With That. After So Many Years Of In-servive, Patrol, Arrest, Court, Ovetime And Today's Society....yeah It's Time For Something New. I Really Hope That Applicants Understand That. I Would Hate For You Guys To Go Through This Long Process If Your Intensions Are To Take Bad Guys To Jail Everyday. Please Don't Get Me Wrong, I Know The Responsibilities Of A Fam Are Just As Important As A City, County Or State Officer.
For The Time Being, I Guess Most Of Us Are Just Wainting For "703." Best Of Luck To All. Has Anyone Received Any Calls For The Miami Fo?

You are correct, federal LE in general is a different beast than local/city/state. I could not count how many times during my USSS-UD days I heard an official say "Not our problem, that is a MPDC problem", it kinda sucked because we had same authority but only US Park seems to get a ton of action on the 0083 side.

FAMS is similar job, instead of protecting the Capitol/White House/Diplomat/etc you are protecting an airplane and it's passengers...be prepared to be bored silly...but paid well.

[VCSOMotor91]

Is there anyone on this form that is with the FRS (Florida Retirement System) and is not vested? If so, have you spoke to a financial advisor in regards of leaving or taking your money? Is it possible to take your money and put it into an IRA if your not vested?

Today is a non Federal Holiday so that means calls should be going out.

[gpan202]

To the rest of you that applied to the FAMS under the old announcemnt. I finally got ahold of someone in DC today...she said they are not hiring anymore off of the old announcment as the list expired. Some sick part of me is wishing that is just a bunch of bull...and they will still call, since I completed all phases of the hiring...the moment they wanted.

I guess like everyone else...back to square A...

[VACOP1]

how long after you applied (anyone in the process) did it take to get a phone call. I have been waiting over a month. According to AVUE I am still active on the list

[FCAP_2008]

Geting in to the Federal Law Enforcement is very hard. I have bee trying for three years and have not got on yet. I hope I have some luck soon. :D

[VACOP1]

If that was for me, I already am with the VA

[PigsdoFly]

Geting in to the Federal Law Enforcement is very hard. I have bee trying for three years and have not got on yet. I hope I have some luck soon. :D

Im sure you've been told this a million times but dont put all your eggs into one basket, put your app out there. Pentagon, FBI Police, FPS, Capital, Park Police, SSUD, seem as if they are always hiring.

[FCAP_2008]

Yeah I know. I have put in for most of them. Thanks

[cop1911]

I read the forum all the time. But I am a new memeber. I completed all phases and I am at the hiring board. What happens to my file?

[cop1911]

To the rest of you that applied to the FAMS under the old announcemnt. I finally got ahold of someone in DC today...she said they are not hiring anymore off of the old announcment as the list expired. Some sick part of me is wishing that is just a bunch of bull...and they will still call, since I completed all phases of the hiring...the moment they wanted.

I guess like everyone else...back to square A...

What happens if your file is the hiring board and you are under the old announcement?

[bluecollar$]

how long after you applied (anyone in the process) did it take to get a phone call. I have been waiting over a month. According to AVUE I am still active on the list

It seems that most FO's had a group process of applicants starting around March. Basically the same timeline everyone is on. I don't know that the FO's would do it again so soon. I'm just guessing but I would say they have a ton completed packets(completed less then a month ago) so they won't rush to spend more time and money to do more. If the packets don't produce enough QA's then I guess they'll push for more.

I don't know,not trying to be negative ,and its just a guess but it seems logical.


On another note ....I pulled my credit and FAMS was listed as having checked it. Hopefully that means good news.....

[GuyinCali]

Any new calls go out for the LAFO or SFO? I am staying positive since I started the old announcement back in 2006, and completed everything this past March, then completed everything on the new announcement on April.

Ring phone ring....

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[TPR1676]

Pigsdofly.. Thank you for shedding some light on us. As we sit here and wait for phone calls and additional instructions, we can only ask questions. I keep hearing about per-diem, but there's very little information on how it is paid out.
-Do FAM's get reimbursed for milage when traveling to and from the airport?
-How important is the starting salary? Since I have no Military or Government background, I'm not sure how the pay structure is applied. From what I've researched, when FAM's reach the "I-Band", they all receive the same pay.
-How many total hours per week do FAM's usually work?

----Please let me know if I'm asking too many questions----


Thanks again!!!

[PigsdoFly]

Pigsdofly.. Thank you for shedding some light on us. As we sit here and wait for phone calls and additional instructions, we can only ask questions. I keep hearing about per-diem, but there's very little information on how it is paid out.
-Do FAM's get reimbursed for milage when traveling to and from the airport?
-How important is the starting salary? Since I have no Military or Government background, I'm not sure how the pay structure is applied. From what I've researched, when FAM's reach the "I-Band", they all receive the same pay.
-How many total hours per week do FAM's usually work?

----Please let me know if I'm asking too many questions----


Thanks again!!!


Per-diem is untaxed funds you recieve from doing overnights domestic and international. Those funds will pay for food and what is ever left over is yours to keep. Milage is interesting, we are only allowed to claim it for over nights and if we "pass" the FO to go to the airport. So yes and no. Working for the government would help to get a higher starting salary but college and experience come into play as well. There are 3 levels of each pay-band, low-mid-high. So no not everyone is at the same level. Hours per week..... hmmmmmm all current FAMs on here will tell you the same thing, it all depends on where your going, weather, etc. So your paid for 50, so your going to work at least 40-50 and maybe more. Hope this helps.

[Up_On_Base]

Per-diem is untaxed funds you recieve from doing overnights domestic and international. Those funds will pay for food and what is ever left over is yours to keep. Milage is interesting, we are only allowed to claim it for over nights and if we "pass" the FO to go to the airport. So yes and no. Working for the government would help to get a higher starting salary but college and experience come into play as well. There are 3 levels of each pay-band, low-mid-high. So no not everyone is at the same level. Hours per week..... hmmmmmm all current FAMs on here will tell you the same thing, it all depends on where your going, weather, etc. So your paid for 50, so your going to work at least 40-50 and maybe more. Hope this helps.

I was told you can expect 5-20K in per diem, depends on how many international vs. domestic.

BTW -- you have the best screen name.

[PigsdoFly]

I was told you can expect 5-20K in per diem, depends on how many international vs. domestic.

BTW -- you have the best screen name.

Yeah that is true maybe more ha, really depends on what FO. Thanks, I was formally "Rolla" but I lost my pw and I couldnt remember what email address I used to register. HA

[hryupnwait107]

New to the posts. I decided to make application to this job for grins and see what happens. Me: Prior service leatherneck, current police veteran, and not quite finished with degree college student.

I've found the process pretty fast thus far. I started Feb. 2008. Although seems like everything has died as of late. Completed everything to the PTA, UA, and Panel. Haven't completed equip or fingerprints.

At first, I couldn't care less if and when I would get a call. Now I find myself like a few others on this board and run to the phone looking for the "703." I guess we'll see what happens.

[VACOP1]

It seems that most FO's had a group process of applicants starting around March. Basically the same timeline everyone is on. I don't know that the FO's would do it again so soon. I'm just guessing but I would say they have a ton completed packets(completed less then a month ago) so they won't rush to spend more time and money to do more. If the packets don't produce enough QA's then I guess they'll push for more.

I don't know,not trying to be negative ,and its just a guess but it seems logical.


On another note ....I pulled my credit and FAMS was listed as having checked it. Hopefully that means good news.....

Funny but Philly is the office I put in for

[jetset1]

I guess there hasn't been any calls out this week?? I hope that some go out for FO's other than those already named.:eek:

[Quick2352]

Does anyone know what's going on with the processing out of D.C. I have been reading posts from applicants that are processing out of different FO's and it seems as if they are moving along much faster. Is D.C. just slow or are they finished with there selections? Can someone please answer this question.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Pigsdofly.. Thank you for shedding some light on us. As we sit here and wait for phone calls and additional instructions, we can only ask questions. I keep hearing about per-diem, but there's very little information on how it is paid out.
-Do FAM's get reimbursed for milage when traveling to and from the airport?
-How important is the starting salary? Since I have no Military or Government background, I'm not sure how the pay structure is applied. From what I've researched, when FAM's reach the "I-Band", they all receive the same pay.
-How many total hours per week do FAM's usually work?

----Please let me know if I'm asking too many questions----


Thanks again!!!

I live more then 50 miles from the airport so on layovers I claim the max of 100 miles.($50.00 dollars gas money) On turns (fly but back home the same day) I get less and it is about $22.00 dollars. So each month I get about $400 a month for gas. Per diem money for me depends on how much beer I drink when I am out of town. But I normaly pocket about $400-$500 a month. I do not do to many international trips but there is where the big money rolls in. The London trips i take are big money. The per diem is $181 a day! All in all I pocket about an extra ten grand a year.

[Up_On_Base]

I live more then 50 miles from the airport so on layovers I claim the max of 100 miles.($50.00 dollars gas money) On turns (fly but back home the same day) I get less and it is about $22.00 dollars. So each month I get about $400 a month for gas. Per diem money for me depends on how much beer I drink when I am out of town. But I normaly pocket about $400-$500 a month. I do not do to many international trips but there is where the big money rolls in. The London trips i take are big money. The per diem is $181 a day! All in all I pocket about an extra ten grand a year.

Tax free?

[MvExplorer]

Hey guys...I just finally finished my application today and I'm now waiting for the next step. Hopefully I'll get everything done soon and join the ranks of those waiting for the "call" as soon as possible.

A little background on me. I am a 21 yr old college grad looking for my first LE job. I have my degree in Criminal Justice and I am excited to see where my life takes me. I do not have any military experience (although I was an Army ROTC cadet for 2 years) and as I stated, I do not have any LE experience. I have been reading the forum for about 3 months now and I've definitely noticed that there seems to be no rhyme or reason in the FAMS and their selection of candidates. So I'm hoping that my lack of experience doesn't hurt my chances and that they'll be willing to take a newbie such as myself. However, that being said, I also feel that I am a worthy candidate and I am capable of all tasks and duties that would be required of me. Just because I've never had a badge before doesn't mean I can't hold my own, hopefully FAMS will agree with me.

Best of luck to all of you waiting for the call, hopefully you'll get yours soon.

I'll keep you posted on my progress...just like everyone else :)

Mv

[Up_On_Base]

MV - Welcome to our forum!

You are correct, there does not seem to be much rhyme/reason for this process but I am sure there is plenty behind the sceens stuff we as applicants don't see.

As far as being qualified, I would not consider FAMS to be entry level LE but there are plenty w/o any experience LE/military that got "the call" and other who have that experience who did not.

I think the most important step is the panel, it will make/break you.

[Navalaircrewman]

Tax free?

You can go to http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentId=17943&contentType=GSA_BASIC

for the conus perdiem rates. It also gives you a link to both the DOD site for US territory per diem (OCONUS) and the US Dept of State for foreign per diem rates. yes all is non taxable since it's not income. Keep in mind that the first and last day of travel is paid at 75% of the max per diem for meals and incidentals. I travel TDY frequently both international and domestic but I never seem to make any profit because I like good food and good pubs.

[Time4newjob]

Naval, No profit but uncle sam is paying for the pub! Gotta love it..Be safe

[Up_On_Base]

You can go to http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentId=17943&contentType=GSA_BASIC

for the conus perdiem rates. It also gives you a link to both the DOD site for US territory per diem (OCONUS) and the US Dept of State for foreign per diem rates. yes all is non taxable since it's not income. Keep in mind that the first and last day of travel is paid at 75% of the max per diem for meals and incidentals. I travel TDY frequently both international and domestic but I never seem to make any profit because I like good food and good pubs.

Thanks.

I know the per diem is tax free, is the gas mileage included?

Good info.

[MvExplorer]

Thanks for the welcome up on base. I've been reading the forums for awhile and the information I've been able to get has been amazing. I definitely appreciate it.

Anyway I know that fams is definitely not a entry level agency but I'm hoping that my lack of experience can be viewed as an asset rather than a. liability. I say this because I feel that I can be molded into the exact type of officer that they want me to be, ie no bad habits to break etc.

I'm really excited to go through this process, hopefully emerging as a candidate but if not I'm sure the experience will be well worth it all.

A question to you current air marshals out there. What is your reaction to my lack of experience/age? I know I'm young, but I'm cool under pressure and I know how to keep my bearings when things start getting out of control. I'm also a proficient shot with multiple weapons. How would you feel having someone such as myself as a collegue?

Hopefully as up on base said, ill be able to prove myself at my panel if and when that happens.

I look forward to talking with you all further.

[NS1286]

MvExplorer,

I'm waiting on "the call" now after applying without any LE/military background. I definitely think that a lack of experience can hurt you and can help you because you can be trained specifically as an air marshal but you'll still be behind people who've been in LE for awhile. For the interviews, I felt like a lot of it was coming across as professional and presentable to show that you're responsible and, even if you don't have experience, you take what you've done seriously.

[jetset1]

Does anyone on this thread know when and if you are even notified that you did not get selected?? If you are done with everything on the NEW posting and are awaiting the call "703" do you get notified that you were not selected??? Do you just stay in limbo??? If not then about how long after would you hear something?? Sorry for all the Q's but I am trying to get some kind of time span considering that all I am waiting for is the "Call". :confused:

Has anyone got a thanks anyway letter after finishing everything??

Thanks for any info!!! Good Luck to all.

[Up_On_Base]

Does anyone on this thread know when and if you are even notified that you did not get selected?? If you are done with everything on the NEW posting and are awaiting the call "703" do you get notified that you were not selected??? Do you just stay in limbo??? If not then about how long after would you hear something?? Sorry for all the Q's but I am trying to get some kind of time span considering that all I am waiting for is the "Call". :confused:

Has anyone got a thanks anyway letter after finishing everything??

Thanks for any info!!! Good Luck to all.

There were people from my PTA/Written that were not contacted for the eqip/prints.

Seems like most of the call that went out have gone to people from this announcement and that are not FLEO's.

Common sense would tell me there were 2 groups invited to the PTA/Written:
Must hire and Hire. They are probably processing the "must hire non FLEOs" first, then process "must hire FLEOs for phase 2" and if they still need bodies send the "hire" group emails for eqip/prints.

[jetset1]

There were people from my PTA/Written that were not contacted for the eqip/prints.

Seems like most of the call that went out have gone to people from this announcement and that are not FLEO's.

Common sense would tell me there were 2 groups invited to the PTA/Written:
Must hire and Hire. They are probably processing the "must hire non FLEOs" first, then process "must hire FLEOs for phase 2" and if they still need bodies send the "hire" group emails for eqip/prints.

I did EVERYTHING... The Eqip/Prints/PTA/Written/Panel and don't have FLEO exp. It has been over a month and I hope that it is just due to the fact they have not started calling for my particular FO. I don't know and am now wishing that I got some contact info from those at the last stage(PTA/Written). I just wonder would they have you complete everything and still not give you the "Call"? I already have a TS. Oh, I did good on the PTA so that can't be it. I also know that there are two guys my friend knows with 0 experience and just out of college in training now. So to that last guy, APPLY!!

[audi0xpl0de]

I've been following the forum and thought I'd come out of the darkness. I just applied and got the standard email that I passed basic qualifications and should receive a telephone interview shortly. I know it will probably be a while before I hear anything. I have no LE experience, but a master's and 2 years completed towards a Ph.D. I had originally put down one location for a preference, but reading other posts selected all to increase my chances. I don't have a problem relocating to any of the cities so I have my fingers crossed that at some point I get a call.

[pilt247]

First post, so here goes.... I am a current FLEO and have done phone interview plus accepted contingent letter. Are there any current FLEO's out of the DC office who have done written/panel/etc?

[Up_On_Base]

I did EVERYTHING... The Eqip/Prints/PTA/Written/Panel and don't have FLEO exp. It has been over a month and I hope that it is just due to the fact they have not started calling for my particular FO. I don't know and am now wishing that I got some contact info from those at the last stage(PTA/Written). I just wonder would they have you complete everything and still not give you the "Call"? I already have a TS. Oh, I did good on the PTA so that can't be it. I also know that there are two guys my friend knows with 0 experience and just out of college in training now. So to that last guy, APPLY!!

We are in the same boat brother...I completed everything also and no word in 3 weeks.

I thought for sure my good looks and charm would help but here I am still waiting...:)

[dtown101]

First post, so here goes.... I am a current FLEO and have done phone interview plus accepted contingent letter. Are there any current FLEO's out of the DC office who have done written/panel/etc?


Done waiting on medical

[blueshield22]

So has anyone heard of someone not passing their physical and why (no names needed)....Just wondering as I am a 10 pt veteran preferance due to VA rating of 20% but have passed all of my past police physicals just fine.

[GuyinCali]

So has anyone heard of someone not passing their physical and why (no names needed)....Just wondering as I am a 10 pt veteran preferance due to VA rating of 20% but have passed all of my past police physicals just fine.

One of my coworkers who was also going thru the process, got the email, "Sorry,but due to.." he said he faild the eye test due to being color blind... He's said he is always DQ due to his color issue...

Has anyone else heard of any other medical no-go?

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[blueshield22]

Oh wow that sucks. I definately do not have that problem so that is a relief.

[FCAP_2008]

I have not heard of any one geting the call this week.

[Statetriple]

Just Waiting on Medical also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GWARDEN234]

There were people from my PTA/Written that were not contacted for the eqip/prints.

Seems like most of the call that went out have gone to people from this announcement and that are not FLEO's.

Common sense would tell me there were 2 groups invited to the PTA/Written:
Must hire and Hire. They are probably processing the "must hire non FLEOs" first, then process "must hire FLEOs for phase 2" and if they still need bodies send the "hire" group emails for eqip/prints.

Hey dude, when I signed my offer there were three there that did not have to go to fletc because they were current fed.leos. that were getting offers

[GWARDEN234]

There were people from my PTA/Written that were not contacted for the eqip/prints.

Seems like most of the call that went out have gone to people from this announcement and that are not FLEO's.

Common sense would tell me there were 2 groups invited to the PTA/Written:
Must hire and Hire. They are probably processing the "must hire non FLEOs" first, then process "must hire FLEOs for phase 2" and if they still need bodies send the "hire" group emails for eqip/prints.

So has anyone heard of someone not passing their physical and why (no names needed)....Just wondering as I am a 10 pt veteran preferance due to VA rating of 20% but have passed all of my past police physicals just fine.

a couple did not pass on my day due to ekg related stuff, ie heart papitations, murmers etc

[GWARDEN234]

dont drink caffeine the day of the physical, it will make your heart do funny stuff on the ekg

[malipas]

Anubody who got a call from 703. Did you guys received official offer? If not do you know what is next step after the call from 703

[Up_On_Base]

Hey dude, when I signed my offer there were three there that did not have to go to fletc because they were current fed.leos. that were getting offers

I stand corrected.

This is the first post I read about current FLEO's getting offers...good for them.

I wonder were I rank then, I completed everything except medical...I know there were people at my PTA/Written that did not get eqip/prints email yet so I guess I am still ahead of them.

No worries...you can't live your live waiting for "the call" or checking this site 20 times per day...it is what it is...no more/less.

Good luck all...and to those who got "the call" have fun this summer in Artesia...I hear the desert is great this time of year.:)

[LEO75]

Current FLEO...Recieved call for Newark last week
Have medical next week

[meterry1]

First post to this site, I'm very interested in a career in FLE, but my age (43) DQ's me for most positions. My question is directed to FAM's mainly, does anyone know if the "Aviation and Transportation Security Act" passed in late '01 still holds water? Specifically, the portion that states:
‘‘(8) may appoint—
‘‘(A) an individual who is a retired law enforcement
officer;
‘‘(B) an individual who is a retired member of the
Armed Forces; and
‘‘(C) an individual who has been furloughed from an
air carrier crew position in the 1-year period beginning on
September, 11 2001
as a Federal air marshal, regardless of age, if the individual
otherwise meets the background and fitness qualifications
required for Federal air marshals."

I have done exhaustive research and cannot find any legislation that rescinds this law. Any information anyone could provide would be appreciated. I have tried speaking directly to the folks at "Avue Central", but they haven't been able to answer my question.

[ButterChunk]

First post to this site, I'm very interested in a career in FLE, but my age (43) DQ's me for most positions. My question is directed to FAM's mainly, does anyone know if the "Aviation and Transportation Security Act" passed in late '01 still holds water? Specifically, the portion that states:
‘‘(8) may appoint—
‘‘(A) an individual who is a retired law enforcement
officer;
‘‘(B) an individual who is a retired member of the
Armed Forces; and
‘‘(C) an individual who has been furloughed from an
air carrier crew position in the 1-year period beginning on
September, 11 2001
as a Federal air marshal, regardless of age, if the individual
otherwise meets the background and fitness qualifications
required for Federal air marshals."

I have done exhaustive research and cannot find any legislation that rescinds this law. Any information anyone could provide would be appreciated. I have tried speaking directly to the folks at "Avue Central", but they haven't been able to answer my question.


Sure, it holds water, but the key there is the permissive language -- may appoint ....blah...blah. It doesn't compel them to do anything.

I've just signed on with FAMS, but have been with TSA for many years as a regulatory agent. It was written that way to give them maximum flexibility in a time of crisis. To give a not so favorable example - a friend of mine came over to regulatory after a stint with FAMS and then wanted to go back later. Even with his covered service, his adjusted age was just outside the requirements and they denied him because of it. It doesn't hurt to try, but I suspect you won't make it past Avue, and unfortunately there's little motivation for anyone to intervene on your behalf. Sorry! Just my .02.

[MvExplorer]

Hey guys

Another question for ya, I just noticed as I was reading through some older posts that there really has been no mention of anything concerning the Denver fo. Has anyone tested there or been offered a position in Denver?

I just thought it strange that there wasn't much information on one of the countries busiest airports

Mv

[blueshield22]

OK last part.....scheduled for my first part of my physical on wednesday and then my second part the next tuesday on the 10th and then told to call hr upon passing....are all you guys doing a two part physical cause it seems like you guys did your in one day. I have completed all else and got the call so this is it.....man they are cutting it close to my EOD.

[Navalaircrewman]

I guess the old announcement hiring process was way different. I never received a job offer nor did my packet go to a panel until after I had a physical.

[blueshield22]

I guess the old announcement hiring process was way different. I never received a job offer nor did my packet go to a panel until after I had a physical.

Yeah it is weird that they call you first and then complete BI/Physical.....Though when 703 called she did say a firm offer contigent upon passing both but still gave me a FO and a start date....big risk with some I am sure but I guess they need to make their selections and at least give some a heads up that they have at leat been selected by the panel.

[Up_On_Base]

Yeah it is weird that they call you first and then complete BI/Physical.....Though when 703 called she did say a firm offer contigent upon passing both but still gave me a FO and a start date....big risk with some I am sure but I guess they need to make their selections and at least give some a heads up that they have at leat been selected by the panel.

I think FAMS is one of the few agencies that completes the BI after you come on board.

I guess they screen the SF86 pretty hard before "the call" and as long as what you put down is accurate and nothing major pops up you are good to go. If I remember they got burned pretty bad on a few people in the post 9/11 days.

[PigsdoFly]

First post to this site, I'm very interested in a career in FLE, but my age (43) DQ's me for most positions. My question is directed to FAM's mainly, does anyone know if the "Aviation and Transportation Security Act" passed in late '01 still holds water? Specifically, the portion that states:
‘‘(8) may appoint—
‘‘(A) an individual who is a retired law enforcement
officer;
‘‘(B) an individual who is a retired member of the
Armed Forces; and
‘‘(C) an individual who has been furloughed from an
air carrier crew position in the 1-year period beginning on
September, 11 2001
as a Federal air marshal, regardless of age, if the individual
otherwise meets the background and fitness qualifications
required for Federal air marshals."

I have done exhaustive research and cannot find any legislation that rescinds this law. Any information anyone could provide would be appreciated. I have tried speaking directly to the folks at "Avue Central", but they haven't been able to answer my question.


No matter what that legislation says you will be DQ'd if your not sworn in by your 37th bday. FAMs are an excepted service and it is what it is. I know people personally that had be sworn in over the phone because their bday was the next day and they were not due to report in untill later. Im sorry but the FAMs will not budge on this. If you dont mind moving Pentagon Force Protection might be an option.

[PigsdoFly]

I think FAMS is one of the few agencies that completes the BI after you come on board.

I guess they screen the SF86 pretty hard before "the call" and as long as what you put down is accurate and nothing major pops up you are good to go. If I remember they got burned pretty bad on a few people in the post 9/11 days.


They do the initial BI, then hire you because the TS will take ahwile to complete. Plus they dont want to waste the funds to have the BI done if you might fail out of the academies.

[Navalaircrewman]

I think FAMS is one of the few agencies that completes the BI after you come on board.

I guess they screen the SF86 pretty hard before "the call" and as long as what you put down is accurate and nothing major pops up you are good to go. If I remember they got burned pretty bad on a few people in the post 9/11 days.

Actually the way FAMS is doing it is pretty normal. Agency personnel security offices do a pre check of your SF-86 and a fingerprint check. If they feel you would me the criteria to favorably adjudicate, then you would start the job, get an interim clearamce from the hiring agency, all the while OPM completes the SSBI or the BI depending on the level of investigation...This is how most work, because my last BI took 11 months to even get the personal interview with the investigator...total 15 months to adjudicate. Now, they can also request expedited service and have OPM complete in as little as 60 days. For example, with FAMS...i turned in my EQIP and had the interview with the investigator like two weeks later. That was quick.probably because they're just upgrading my last BI...saving them time and money..most was already done.

[Up_On_Base]

Actually the way FAMS is doing it is pretty normal. Agency personnel security offices do a pre check of your SF-86 and a fingerprint check. If they feel you would me the criteria to favorably adjudicate, then you would start the job, get an interim clearamce from the hiring agency, all the while OPM completes the SSBI or the BI depending on the level of investigation...This is how most work, because my last BI took 11 months to even get the personal interview with the investigator...total 15 months to adjudicate. Now, they can also request expedited service and have OPM complete in as little as 60 days. For example, with FAMS...i turned in my EQIP and had the interview with the investigator like two weeks later. That was quick.probably because they're just upgrading my last BI...saving them time and money..most was already done.

I never heard of this type of BI.

I know the USSS knocked on doors and contacted tons of people before they gave me an offer and the BI was after my poly. Also - when I process for PA State Police (took USSS offer) they did the BI before training.

Not saying one way is better than the other...I just find it odd.

[Bearcat357]

I never heard of this type of BI.

That's how DHS did with me.....

I know (from talking to the lady) that they did a NCIC/Crim History Check, Credit Check, and called my PD and had a nice long chat with my Sheriff and Chief Deputy ......then gave me a start date....

I didn't get my TS/SCI until I had been on the job 18 months maybe.....and was issued a interm clearance of some sort.....and once I got the TS/SCI.....there was nothing different about my job. I was still accessing the same stuff like I was under my interm......

In the case of the FAMs....my buddy had completed training and was flying before he got his TS..... I would have to ask but if I recall properly it was like a year or so before he got it......

Of course, he's been on the job a while, so they might have changed some stuff around....not sure....

[jetset1]

Guys, if you get the call from "703" don't worry about your BI!! I won't go into a bunch of detail but the real important part is to get the call!! If for any reason you don't get the clearence or have to step down you already know why and you wasted alot of your time!!! You will fly based on the EQuip and info already provided. I think those on this post should not be worried about the BI as much as there have been 0 call's out this week and I hope we're not the ugly girls at the dance no one want's to 2step with?? :rolleyes: LOL!!! Just pray for the call to start up and I am sure that everything will find it's place in this crazy lottery!! :D Good Luck and keep everyone posted(don't even list where) on any movement!!

[Md094]

My guess is the hiring panel probably did not meet this week because of the Holiday. I'm sure many people were taking vacations this week if it is anything like my department here. Memorial week and 4th of July week are hard to find people around, especially administration.

[GWARDEN234]

General question now that I have a contract on my house, do these guys give you anytime at all to look for a house and move and if they do when is it.

[PigsdoFly]

General question now that I have a contract on my house, do these guys give you anytime at all to look for a house and move and if they do when is it.

They will give you a date to report, a week, two weeks, a month it all depends. They will not give you anytime at all to search for a new place or sell your old one, besides the time you have to report. Dont worry it will all work out.

[GuyinCali]

I guess the old announcement hiring process was way different. I never received a job offer nor did my packet go to a panel until after I had a physical.

This is the same for me, on the old announcement, I completed everything: panel interview May 2007, eQIP, fingerprints, physcial, PTA and SAC interview March 2008.

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[GuyinCali]

Question, I heard that all the calls that are going out for this fiscal year have already gone out. Due to budget, calls will not start to go out again until the budget for the next fiscal year passes?
Any current FAMS, have you all heard this?

Pray on "The Call" for an EOD...

[jetset1]

Question, I heard that all the calls that are going out for this fiscal year have already gone out. Due to budget, calls will not start to go out again until the budget for the next fiscal year passes?
Any current FAMS, have you all heard this?

Pray on "The Call" for an EOD...


Add that to the change of the Director and WHO KNOWS????????????? :eek:

[Up_On_Base]

Question, I heard that all the calls that are going out for this fiscal year have already gone out. Due to budget, calls will not start to go out again until the budget for the next fiscal year passes?
Any current FAMS, have you all heard this?

Pray on "The Call" for an EOD...

I don't doubt this, seems like a ton of calls went out for multiple FO's in the last 4 weeks. There is only so much money and training space available.

New federal FY starts in Oct, then more money becomes available.

Nothing we can do but wait...still this process and FAMS have been great so far...the federal system is usually much slower. Many of the new applicants are a bit spoiled by this process, 12-24 months is not uncommon.

[VCSOMotor91]

Question, I heard that all the calls that are going out for this fiscal year have already gone out. Due to budget, calls will not start to go out again until the budget for the next fiscal year passes?
Any current FAMS, have you all heard this?

Pray on "The Call" for an EOD...


I spoke to a friend of mine that works for the FAM's and he said he has not heard this rumor. He stated they are still hiring and they have a budget set for a specific amount of new hires (unknown what that number is). Furthermore, he advised me not to believe everything you read off of this board due to the amount of incorrect scuttlebutt that is passed. Not for nothing but I think we all get ourselves way too worked up over this forum. Yeah, we all want this job REALLY BAD and we all stand by our phone 24/7. If it was meant to be then we will get the call. If not, Next App please. My job is stressfull enough as it is and this forum does not help it. So i just walk away trying to get my mind off of it.

[PigsdoFly]

Question, I heard that all the calls that are going out for this fiscal year have already gone out. Due to budget, calls will not start to go out again until the budget for the next fiscal year passes?
Any current FAMS, have you all heard this?

Pray on "The Call" for an EOD...

RUMOR... as VCSO said dont believe everything you hear. They will hire up until the end of the fiscal year.

[bluecollar$]

I spoke to a friend of mine that works for the FAM's and he said he has not heard this rumor. He stated they are still hiring and they have a budget set for a specific amount of new hires (unknown what that number is). Furthermore, he advised me not to believe everything you read off of this board due to the amount of incorrect scuttlebutt that is passed. Not for nothing but I think we all get ourselves way too worked up over this forum. Yeah, we all want this job REALLY BAD and we all stand by our phone 24/7. If it was meant to be then we will get the call. If not, Next App please. My job is stressfull enough as it is and this forum does not help it. So i just walk away trying to get my mind off of it.

Man VCSO you must have read my mind.:DI have yet to see 99% of anything said here come true(as far as "rumors") Don't get me wrong this thread has been very useful and enjoyable to follow.

If they call I will come ,This board nor I can make them. ;)
I would say the hiring would be staggered with each full class.Next round of calls will be 3 weeks before the next classes start. But hey thats just a guess so no one give up checking that caller ID:D:D

[GuyinCali]

I did not mean to bust anyone bubble, as I am also waiting on "The Call" too. I was just passing what I heard from a current FAM who's been in since 2002 and a FAM currently in Phase I or II, and I know about the federal budget, I have worked in Federal LE for 15 years. I only mentioned this because previous years the budget goes into a CR until the next calendar year which means sometime early 2009. So more waiting....

I don't believe everything I read or hear, that is why I wrote it as a Question to current FAMS reading this forum...

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[monalisa301]

hey is the medical a two day process?

[monalisa301]

hey is the medical a two day process?

[dtown101]

I did not mean to bust anyone bubble, as I am also waiting on "The Call" too. I was just passing what I heard from a current FAM who's been in since 2002 and a FAM currently in Phase I or II, and I know about the federal budget, I have worked in Federal LE for 15 years. I only mentioned this because previous years the budget goes into a CR until the next calendar year which means sometime early 2009. So more waiting....

I don't believe everything I read or hear, that is why I wrote it as a Question to current FAMS reading this forum...

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

The likely hood that the Congress is going to CR until next year is very HIGH...

[jetset1]

The likely hood that the Congress is going to CR until next year is very HIGH...


Does CR mean "Continue Recruitment"?? :confused:

[Bearcat357]

Does CR mean "Continue Recruitment"?? :confused:

Congressional Recess.....

[Up_On_Base]

hey is the medical a two day process?

Depends on the capabilities of the medical office and how many people they need to process.

For the USSS I went to an office in Morristown NJ, got all my test perfomed and took a few hours. I guess this is the FERS medical...oil check time for the gents...not fun

[dtown101]

The likely hood that the Congress is going to CR until next year is very HIGH...

CR means Continued Resolution----meaning if their is no agreement to the budget for this 09 fiscal year then a CR is passed and it is based on the last fiscal years budget that was passed

[Bearcat357]

CR means Continued Resolution----meaning if their is no agreement to the budget for this 09 fiscal year then a CR is passed and it is based on the last fiscal years budget that was passed

My last agency in DC (DHS) called "CR" Congressional Recess.....so that's what I was going by......had never heard that term phrased like that....

Learn something everyday.....

[PigsdoFly]

hey is the medical a two day process?

The process seemed to have changed alot since I have been hired, the medical should be a one day-few hour- event. You will have to go back for the TB test I believe.

[PigsdoFly]

When dealing with the budget, it seems that most training class will be going through in the fall and winter months. Reason for this? I have no clue at all its just the track record. They will be having classes through the summer as well. I suspect they may hire the majority of ppl during the last few days of Sept, of the fiscal year so they can get more money in the budget to hire more next year.

[blueshield22]

The process seemed to have changed alot since I have been hired, the medical should be a one day-few hour- event. You will have to go back for the TB test I believe.

It is a two day process....like a military physical with all the labs, ekg, eye, and ear tests the first day and then you come back to see the doctor so that he can go over your results and let you know if there are any waivers needed.

[Navalaircrewman]

It is a two day process....like a military physical with all the labs, ekg, eye, and ear tests the first day and then you come back to see the doctor so that he can go over your results and let you know if there are any waivers needed.

Every medical facility is different. I did mine in 3-4 hours, of course I was the only patient.

[GWARDEN234]

We had close to twenty go thru the DCFO medical in about 6 hours

[blueshield22]

We had close to twenty go thru the DCFO medical in about 6 hours

Well then Dallas Occupational Health is just slow!!!!

[meterry1]

Butterchunk/PigsdoFly,
Thanks for the answer, your thoughts on the subject run parallel to my own, I certainly wasn't holding my breath for a career in FLE, but it was something in which I was always very interested. Again, thank you both.

[PigsdoFly]

Butterchunk/PigsdoFly,
Thanks for the answer, your thoughts on the subject run parallel to my own, I certainly wasn't holding my breath for a career in FLE, but it was something in which I was always very interested. Again, thank you both.


No problem, have you thought about local?

[NS1286]

A friend of my dad's knows a recently retired FAM who said that, with regards to the fiscal year starting in October, more calls will indeed go out in late August/September. It's second hand info but I hope this helps.

[FCAP_2008]

I think that calls will go out this week and next week for the July class. Just my opinion but the SAC told me that there is a July and August Class and I dont think they started filling the August. I know a couple People have got put in the July class but who knows if its filled.

[davidh304]

I saw this today and was curious to what it was. It's about as clear as mud. It says the ASOs are not compensated by federal government and are primarily concern on DCA (Regan Airport near Washington DC if Im correct). The training is only two days.

This looks like privatization of a semi-FAM role with much less training. Anyone have any experience with them?

http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/aso.shtm


edit for typo

[Bearcat357]

I saw this today and was curious to what it was. It's about as clear as mud. It says the ASOs are not compensated by federal government and concern on DCA (Regan Airport near Washington DC if Im correct). The training is only two days.

This looks like privatization of a semi-FAM role with much less training. Anyone have any experience with them?

http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/aso.shtm

A. DCA (Reagan) and several other key airports allow regular LEOs to play "FAM" on small private jets that are owned by large corporations flying in and out of "gateway cities".......

B. To get the job, you have to be ON THE JOB/RETIRED as a LEO....then get hired by the company that wants to fly in/out of gateway airports...... An example might be a drug company, the American Dairy Farmers, Exxon, etc......

C. One must pass a TSA/DHS background check.....

D. The job occurs strictly when you are off-duty.....a..

E. You go through some TSA training....get certified....then fly in/out of gateway airports..... You have to do some stuff (mainly paperwork) for TSA....and thats it. You ride/fly on private jets/airplanes and doing whatever.....You work for the company flying the plane....not your agency....

It's a hard job to get because a ton of folks that are current/retired LEOs are trying to find companies that fly in/out of the gateway airports to do the job.....As they are wanting to suck up big bucks to fly.....so the company can fly into DCA instead of IAD or some other small crappy airport in the DC area and have to pay for a limo/bus/car service/taxi in to the city......

I looked into it a while back and KC isn't a gateway airport. Somewhere on that TSA link is the gateway airports list......

[Time4newjob]

I looked into the ASO program as a "cool" off duty gig. I work near Teterboro (TEB) and couldn't even get a corporation or FBO to sponsor my training. My resume is extensive and at the time I still had a security clearance. Apparently after 9/11 plenty of retired guy's filled up these positions. Just like any other job, it's good to have an "uncle".

[03usmc51]

Hey guys just got off the phone, and got my panel interview schedualed for the NYFO. I was hoping someone could give me some advise. Please any help would be appreciated thank you!

[bluecollar$]

Hey guys just got off the phone, and got my panel interview schedualed for the NYFO. I was hoping someone could give me some advise. Please any help would be appreciated thank you!

Relax, be confident and draw off of your Marine Corp experiences(you'll figure that out as soon as you start). Good Luck and Semper Fi...Oh yeah wear a suit;)

[Love_Ulcer]

Hey guys just got off the phone, and got my panel interview schedualed for the NYFO. I was hoping someone could give me some advise. Please any help would be appreciated thank you!

This thread is becoming (if it isn't already) the encyclopedia of FAMS hiring process.

You'll find something.:)

[03usmc51]

Relax, be confident and draw off of your Marine Corp experiences(you'll figure that out as soon as you start). Good Luck and Semper Fi...Oh yeah wear a suit;)

Thanks I appreciate it.

[Up_On_Base]

Oh yeah wear a suit;)

What no casual Friday???

[Love_Ulcer]

What no casual Friday???

I think jeans and sandals are the way to go. Tell the panel you're "blending in".

Shoe in baby.

[PigsdoFly]

I think jeans and sandals are the way to go. Tell the panel you're "blending in".

Shoe in baby.


Sandals are a no no, they are not "tactically" sound. :D

[PigsdoFly]

I saw this today and was curious to what it was. It's about as clear as mud. It says the ASOs are not compensated by federal government and are primarily concern on DCA (Regan Airport near Washington DC if Im correct). The training is only two days.

This looks like privatization of a semi-FAM role with much less training. Anyone have any experience with them?

http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/aso.shtm


edit for typo

Primary for DCA because after 9/11 only certain private planes are allowed into DCA because it is in the capital. Ive had Donald Trump and his wife on board because he wasn't allowed to take his palne into DCA. Talk about a complete tool. Like others have explained its hard to get into and your not doing the FAM mission because they know who you are.

[03usmc51]

I have a buddy that is an ASO. He works the same exact flights every day for an airline company in ohio to DC. He did some three week long course with the FAMS and trains with with them (I don't know how often that is) when he can.

[Lukinbigrich]

Just got a call from a friend..he is leaving for training as and FAM in August...only took him a month to go through the whole process and be offered a job.

[FCAP_2008]

So did that person get hired today then.

[Up_On_Base]

Just got a call from a friend..he is leaving for training as and FAM in August...only took him a month to go through the whole process and be offered a job.

Wow...that is insane.

Must have been uber qualified...good for him.

[Lukinbigrich]

No he got hired on Tuesday.....actually he has no background in LE. He has a college education and has worked for a home builder for 5 years or so.

[audi0xpl0de]

I'm jealous.

[MvExplorer]

Well that's good news for us college education people without Le experience. Curious to see if I get my phone interview sometime soon...

[bluecollar$]

No he got hired on Tuesday.....actually he has no background in LE. He has a college education and has worked for a home builder for 5 years or so.

Do you know what field office?
Anybody hear any word from PHL?

[Lukinbigrich]

I am in the same boat......I have an MBA but not LE experience. Hopefully this gives us some hope. They hired him and are starting him in the office before they send him off for training.

[Lukinbigrich]

PHL is his field office.

[FCAP_2008]

Oh that is good news. That means they are still hiring for this FY which is good. :D:D

[03usmc51]

Can anyone that passed the medical portion or knows about the process and what the docs look for answer this question for me please. Will asthma prevent you from getting hired even if you take medication for it that keeps it under control? If you are able to get some sort of doctors note saying that you are fit for duty would they take that into account? I dont see why they would'nt. I've made it through the Marine Corps, several schools which required alot of physical training,and three "work ups" that led to two combat tours in iraq when there was an actual war going on. (not trying to glorify myself in anyway, it's not something that I like to talk about) My point is though if I can make it through all that, sitting on a plane shouldn't be a problem right?

[cjstudent11]

Hey guys I got an email awhile ago stating that I was initially qualified and that I may receive a phone interview in the future. I have received no more emails nor a phone call from anyone regarding the job. Anyone have any ideas as to who I could call to find out whats going on? Also if anyone is in the same situation or knows anything about it please pm me. Thanks

[audi0xpl0de]

Could be months, hang in there. I'm in the exact same situation. It's a waiting game.

[Love_Ulcer]

Can anyone that passed the medical portion or knows about the process and what the docs look for answer this question for me please. Will asthma prevent you from getting hired even if you take medication for it that keeps it under control? If you are able to get some sort of doctors note saying that you are fit for duty would they take that into account? I dont see why they would'nt. I've made it through the Marine Corps, several schools which required alot of physical training,and three "work ups" that led to two combat tours in iraq when there was an actual war going on. (not trying to glorify myself in anyway, it's not something that I like to talk about) My point is though if I can make it through all that, sitting on a plane shouldn't be a problem right?

According to the Class 2 flight physical, so long as it's mild and have not required steroid medication, you should be good to go.

[southin]

.........................

[SPC-D]

I'm in the same boat Cjstudent11, although i have only been waiting two/three weeks so far. This is for the Orlando FO by the way. Wish you luck.

[audi0xpl0de]

Been a couple weeks for me. I applied to every office.

[gonefishin]

Been a couple weeks for me. I applied to every office.
Good to see a Maineiac on here...I actually flew over Bangor ealier today.

[kevinTA]

Guys, I applied back in March, did the phone interview, did the panel interview, and passed the backround investigation pre-hire process last month. Today a guy from the FBI came to my house to ask some follow up questions for the clearance process. I have not done the PT or medical though, has this happened to anyone else? Seems strange, maybe this is another new twist in the hiring?

[Up_On_Base]

Guys, I applied back in March, did the phone interview, did the panel interview, and passed the backround investigation pre-hire process last month. Today a guy from the FBI came to my house to ask some follow up questions for the clearance process. I have not done the PT or medical though, has this happened to anyone else? Seems strange, maybe this is another new twist in the hiring?


I guess every FO is doing it different...this process is a bit strange.

[audi0xpl0de]

What FO did you apply to kevinTA? Thanks gonefishin, it is a beautiful state. I still wouldn't mind going wherever I'm needed, especially after the winter we just had. ;)

[Lucky 317]

Im in the same boat guys. Applied on AVUE back on 28 MAR 08. got the initial email and have been in the hurry up and wait mode. I listed Atlanta as my FO, so we'll see what happens.

[Navalaircrewman]

Guys, I applied back in March, did the phone interview, did the panel interview, and passed the backround investigation pre-hire process last month. Today a guy from the FBI came to my house to ask some follow up questions for the clearance process. I have not done the PT or medical though, has this happened to anyone else? Seems strange, maybe this is another new twist in the hiring?

It actually would have been an investigator from OPM doing the field investigation

[DEENIKE]

I believe you all would have a better chance if you would list all FO. I understand that some of you have families and can not make the move needed. You have to consider when you pick a location like Atlanta FO your chances are thin due to the number of agents in that FO. If you pick an office like D.C., Newark, L.A., etc. those are bigger airports more flights thus bigger FO and better chance to get hired.

[jetset1]

Are any of the FAMS on this site aware if there have been any new hires for the Florida FO's??? Are any now in training that you know of? If so have the FO's stopped picking up due to their requirment being met? Thanks for the info!

One good thing is that I have stopped checking my cell on every call to see if it's the "703". After reading some of these latest posts and having knowledge of some of the current hires in training I have come to the point that it is all a shot in the dark. There is no set basis on which you get the call. Just have to do your best and move on with life. That said I'm taking advantage of the market her in Florida and buying a huge house to make myself feel better!!! :D I hope that everyone gets the call but to those who don't there is always that GS5 entry position :eek: somewhere out there :rolleyes: Good Luck!! Fly safe to those on the job and to those going to training CONGRAT's and good luck!!

[kevinTA]

I applied to the Chicago FO

[Up_On_Base]

It actually would have been an investigator from OPM doing the field investigation

Probably retired FBI...double dip!

[INTHEAIRCOP]

[QUOTE=jetset1;1271084]Are any of the FAMS on this site aware if there have been any new hires for the Florida FO's??? Are any now in training that you know of? If so have the FO's stopped picking up due to their requirment being met? Thanks for the info!

QUOTE]

Miami is due to get 10 new hires and as far as I know they have not gotten one yet!

[dulce]

i know of a new hire in Miami FO. they might be done.

[ButterChunk]

[QUOTE=jetset1;1271084]Are any of the FAMS on this site aware if there have been any new hires for the Florida FO's??? Are any now in training that you know of? If so have the FO's stopped picking up due to their requirment being met? Thanks for the info!

QUOTE]

Miami is due to get 10 new hires and as far as I know they have not gotten one yet!

There was at least one destined for Miami going through medical processing with me at ORD last month. Could've been more--I didn't get a chance to chat with everybody.

[Lucky 317]

I believe you all would have a better chance if you would list all FO. I understand that some of you have families and can not make the move needed. You have to consider when you pick a location like Atlanta FO your chances are thin due to the number of agents in that FO. If you pick an office like D.C., Newark, L.A., etc. those are bigger airports more flights thus bigger FO and better chance to get hired.

Well, Atlanta is the "busiest" airport in the country....

http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/busiest_airports/

[DEENIKE]

Well, Atlanta is the "busiest" airport in the country....

http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/busiest_airports/

That appears to be true, what I do know is that FO is not one of the main locations that need agents. I know several FAMS who tell me that ATL is not a major location that needs help. At the end we all just want the job so we each have to do what we feel is best for our chances to be hired. I would still advise all to select every FO at least half of the locations to give yourself a better chance. Truth is I would love Atlant or Houston, heck I would even like Dallas.

[mi562]

No he got hired on Tuesday.....actually he has no background in LE. He has a college education and has worked for a home builder for 5 years or so.


Considering they're hiring TSA screeners to be AMs, sounds like they're not being as selective as they were in the past!

[03usmc51]

Now these TSA screeners are they going through the same training as FAMs or is it a shorter version? Kind of like those retired police officers who get spun up real quick to be an ASO? I mean I don't see them just saying "hey your a TSA screener here is your gun go fly" Do you know the extent of thier training? Do you know anyone or any site that has anything about that? ( I'm not trying to be a dick I am very curious on the amount of training they get)

[Sully116]

First time post here. I got my e-mail saying I met basic qualifications on 5/1/08 and still no phone interview. What has been the average timeframe from e-mail to a phone interview?

[audi0xpl0de]

Considering they're hiring TSA screeners to be AMs, sounds like they're not being as selective as they were in the past!

I really hope this is not true. The TSA screeners I've been in contact with act like they were just lucky enough to get their high school diplomas.

[gonefishin]

Now these TSA screeners are they going through the same training as FAMs or is it a shorter version? Kind of like those retired police officers who get spun up real quick to be an ASO? I mean I don't see them just saying "hey your a TSA screener here is your gun go fly" Do you know the extent of thier training? Do you know anyone or any site that has anything about that? ( I'm not trying to be a dick I am very curious on the amount of training they get)

They go through the full training when hired by FAMS....phase I and II.

[bluecollar$]

There were guys from tsa,hell even a guy from CBP, they all were interviewing and running right next to me.....They do the same thing as joe blow........
The time frame is different but almost everyone on the board did everything in the same timeframe as a group. the only Fo that was behind seemed to NY. If you missed these groups in around April then you may have a long wait.....

[NS1286]

Sully116---it was about a month for me between the e-mail and phone interview.

[03usmc51]

Just curious how much running and how far do they run durring FLETC?

[PigsdoFly]

Just curious how much running and how far do they run durring FLETC?

Its all going to depend who your PT instructors are, some will make you go on long runs a few times a week and some will not make you run that much. It takes alittle bit to get used to the altitude if your not from there so that will affect your running at first. Dont worry about it, they will have the little gator kart following the group to pick you up if you need it. Just make sure the head lights dont burn your legs....:D

[03usmc51]

[QUOTE=PigsdoFly;1274725]Its all going to depend who your PT instructors are, some will make you go on long runs a few times a week and some will not make you run that much. It takes alittle bit to get used to the altitude if your not from there so that will affect your running at first. Dont worry about it, they will have the little gator kart following the group to pick you up if you need it. Just make sure the head lights dont burn your legs....:D[/QUOTE

Thanks for the info man lol sounds like a good time.

[ochoism]

I really hope this is not true. The TSA screeners I've been in contact with act like they were just lucky enough to get their high school diplomas.

I work for TSA. It's a very diverse workforce. Many are college graduates who joined TSA to get a foot in the door with federal service, some are former military, or current reserves. Some of the guys I work with still get sent to Iraq while still employed with TSA. Now I'm not speaking for everyone in TSA; there are the duds, but there are duds in every job out there. There are alot of highly qualified people in TSA, I hope you don't believe everything you see on the news.

[Time4newjob]

My experience with screeners is depending which airport your at their professionalism and attitude is very different!

[audi0xpl0de]

Didn't mean to generalize. Just speaking from the ones I've made contact with.

[TPR1676]

Hey guys, I'm happy to hear that everyone is using this forum for positive reasons. Nonetheless, I would personally recommend we stick to topics that only pertain to FAM's and not TSA's. Most of us are professionals and we don't need to generalize without doing our homework. I hope everyone is doing well with the hiring process. Hang in there, the calls will come.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I have not heard of any new hires in the Miami office. I will believe it when I see the new hire in the office.

[Dumbo1998]

AhhGhHH! How long does it take for the phone interview? Been over two month's since my online OK. :confused:

[jetset1]

I have not heard of any new hires in the Miami office. I will believe it when I see the new hire in the office.

INTHEAIRCOP, I don't think that they could hire anyone and not have them at the office before training right?? Let me know if I am wrong but I thought that if hired you have to report to the FO you will be working out of for a period of time prior to going to training is that correct?? It seem to be the way others on this post have had to do it. I recall hearing a number of people that got the call having to report to that FO prior to leaving for NM(Newark FO ect..). Thanks for the Info as well as keeping us up to date on the FO.

For the guy who is waiting to complete the phone interview and it's been two months.... It's been two months and alot of us have completed everything. It takes a loooooooooong time so as hard as it is just try to think of anything else. Good Luck!

[Thor1911]

Dude, I applied originally in September 2006!!! Additionally, I started a 2nd application in April of this year per the recruiters directions. For both applications I am waiting on "the call" of EOD. I don't think anyone has been contacted for my BI references yet, so that is a sign that things are on hold. I did my second panel interview, PT, Drug, and written tests on April 1st of this year.

I trust that the timing is not right and the opportunity will come at the opportune time. :rolleyes:

[Up_On_Base]

Dude, I applied originally in September 2006!!! Additionally, I started a 2nd application in April of this year per the recruiters directions. For both applications I am waiting on "the call" of EOD. I don't think anyone has been contacted for my BI references yet, so that is a sign that things are on hold. I did my second panel interview, PT, Drug, and written tests on April 1st of this year.

I trust that the timing is not right and the opportunity will come at the opportune time. :rolleyes:

They will probably continue to hire in waves, FAMS is a small agency and can only handle X amount of new recruits at one time.

Next round of call probably won't go out till late summer, but thats just my guess.

[Up_On_Base]

I spoke with my recruiter about two weeks ago about a screw up with avue / e-quip, he advised me that I wasn't at any disadvantage at the time and wouldn't be for another 6 weeks, so based on that information, i'd say the next flurry of activity should be in about four weeks. He also gave me the impression that most of the persons who have been picked up already are the candidates who scored "Highly Recommended" and that the next round would be for either those remaining in that category (which I think has been depleted) or those in the "well recommended" category. again dont take any of this as rock solid fact, but im' pretty confident in the inferences I drew from the conversation.

Sounds pretty accurate to me...I know there were several people from my PTA/Written group that never got the email for E-qip/Prints.

I *think* about 4-5 people have been invited to the medical and got offers. I submitted all my paperwork/prints a month ago and have not heard anything, I am sure HR is overwhelmed by the amount of new people and as I previously stated, there is only so much room available for training. It does not make sense to hire a ton of people and have them sit in a FO for a few months getting paid.

[futurefed21]

i feel like ive been asking this question periodically for weeks now but is anyone else in the same position as me where you have already completed your E-qip/LiveScan Prints but NO Panel/PTA scheduled yet?? its drivin me nuts!!! lol

[WilsonCQB1911]

Has anyone who went through the Boston field office heard anything back yet?

I did the PTA/Written/Drug Test/Panel Interview/Fingerprints in mid-May and haven't heard anything at all. I was told that I would have to do something in Avue and answer questions next (I'm assuming e-quip or whatever that is) but haven't been prompted to do that yet.

[scout242]

i feel like ive been asking this question periodically for weeks now but is anyone else in the same position as me where you have already completed your E-qip/LiveScan Prints but NO Panel/PTA scheduled yet?? its drivin me nuts!!! lol

I'm still in the same boat as you.
I sent you a PM.

[GuyinCali]

Sounds pretty accurate to me...I know there were several people from my PTA/Written group that never got the email for E-qip/Prints.

I *think* about 4-5 people have been invited to the medical and got offers. I submitted all my paperwork/prints a month ago and have not heard anything, I am sure HR is overwhelmed by the amount of new people and as I previously stated, there is only so much room available for training. It does not make sense to hire a ton of people and have them sit in a FO for a few months getting paid.

Like I mentioned before, all the EOD's for this fiscal year have already went out. (I hope I am wrong) Due to the federal budget, calls will not go out till the federal budget passes for the next fiscal year. Being in federal LE, the budget will go into a CR and most likley, and clear something in early 2009.

Believe what you read here or don't, I too am waiting on an EOD.

Okay, I am only passing what I heard from a current FAM.
Also about class size, only about 40 to 45 per phase.

I first applied on the old announcement in Sept. 2006, completed that process March 2008 (PTA, panel interview, medical, SAC Interview), and I also completed the process on the new announcement April 2008.

So those of you who just applied on the new announcement, you are lucky the process is moving this fast... Good Luck to all waiting.

Praying on "The Call" for an EOD...

[Navalaircrewman]

Is anyone else here going to school in July?

[scout242]

Like I mentioned before, all the EOD's for this fiscal year have already went out. (I hope I am wrong) Due to the federal budget, calls will not go out till the federal budget passes for the next fiscal year. Being in federal LE, the budget will go into a CR and most likley, and clear something in early 2009.


I was told the same thing by my FO :mad:

[GWARDEN234]

Is anyone else here going to school in July?

i am going in july along with about 15 others from my fo

[Lazer]

I processed in the Boston Office at the end of April bro, heard nothing yet. I hear they have a ton of vacancies here in Boston.



Has anyone who went through the Boston field office heard anything back yet?

I did the PTA/Written/Drug Test/Panel Interview/Fingerprints in mid-May and haven't heard anything at all. I was told that I would have to do something in Avue and answer questions next (I'm assuming e-quip or whatever that is) but haven't been prompted to do that yet.

[blueshield22]

Is anyone else here going to school in July?

I am reporting to the LAFO on July 6th. Not sure if that puts me in the July or August class but one of them. HR said that due to the medical for the people in some areas taking so long due to scheduling problems they have had to shift some things around but other then that, myself and a couple of others from our area would be getting our final offer letters soon and to not worry. Fedral Occupational Health can be a worm at times due to all the other appointments that they handle.

[PigsdoFly]

It does not make sense to hire a ton of people and have them sit in a FO for a few months getting paid.

Ohh but they will do it. When the last round of new hires came to my FO some sat for 3-4 months before going to Phase I. Thats the gov for you.

[DEENIKE]

Ohh but they will do it. When the last round of new hires came to my FO some sat for 3-4 months before going to Phase I. Thats the gov for you.

this seems to be the case for several new hires this time around from what I gather.

[Navalaircrewman]

I am reporting to the LAFO on July 6th. Not sure if that puts me in the July or August class but one of them. HR said that due to the medical for the people in some areas taking so long due to scheduling problems they have had to shift some things around but other then that, myself and a couple of others from our area would be getting our final offer letters soon and to not worry. Fedral Occupational Health can be a worm at times due to all the other appointments that they handle.

most likely a later class since the July class is soon thereafter....see ya somewhere though!!

[dclair]

I have also completed eqip and prints, but have not had a panel interview or PAT. I spoke with the FO in DEN and he informed me that no panel interviews were scheduled at this time. DEN completes panel and PAT in the same day.

[GitmoVet]

So I'm sitting at dinner this evening when the phone rings. My wife picks it up and looks at the number and runs over to me "It's 703!"
I grabbed the phone and answered it..."This is so and so from the NRA, did you know they are passing a new gun ban bill?"
I'm all for the NRA, but I've never been so let down.:(

[03usmc51]

Well I just completed my Panel interview for the NYFO not sure how I did. I am a very hard critic on myself so that doesn't help either. Can anyone from the NYFO that already went through the process inform me on whether they were let known that they passed the interview after it was over, or did they just send an email letting you know if you failed or passed?

[Up_On_Base]

How common is it to interview at FO X and get offered FO Y?

[gsxridr2000]

I'm new to posting on this forum, but I have been browsing through it the past few weeks. Has anyone heard of applicants receiving the "703 call" as of late for LA/SF/DC/NY field offices? I've completed the whole process a month ago and have been sitting in limbo since. Apparently HR told me that my packet will go through the hiring review board mid May, and that is the last I have heard. Just waiting like the others I suppose. Good luck to all those awaiting for "the call."

Applied online under new announcement 02/2008
Received qualifying email notice 02/2008
Phone Interview 03/2008
COE 04/2008
Submitted e-Quip SF-86, BI, 04/2008
Laser scan fingerprints 04/2008
PTA, Panel Interview, written/video tests, SAC Interview, UA 04/2008
FAM Hiring Review Board 05/2008
Waiting for feedback……:confused:

[Skynet]

Hi, I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I was wondering if anyone on the forum has heard anything out of the Cincinnatti Field Office. I had my panel interview on April 10th of this year. I am trying to get in touch with the guys I that had their panel interview on April 10th. Have any of you heard anything and where are you in the process. Thanks!

[Bluepen]

dclair, are applying for the DEN FO? Last time I spoke to someone there they told me they were offering 4 individuals positions and that the calls had already gone out for them.

[GitmoVet]

Hi, I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I was wondering if anyone on the forum has heard anything out of the Cincinnatti Field Office. I had my panel interview on April 10th of this year. I am trying to get in touch with the guys I that had their panel interview on April 10th. Have any of you heard anything and where are you in the process. Thanks!

Were you there when "Casual Friday" showed up? Dude in sandals and a t-shirt? I interviewed there that day and I'm just waiting for the call.

[Ofc. Slater]

how was the PTA?

[Skynet]

Were you there when "Casual Friday" showed up? Dude in sandals and a t-shirt? I interviewed there that day and I'm just waiting for the call.
I don't recall anyone showing up in sandals and a t-shirt. I believe there were eight of us that interviewed on that day. Since your interview, have you got an email for the background check (Equip) and fingerprints?

Oh and to Ofc. Slater, the PTA was not bad. We ran around a track and the weather was sunny and around 77 degrees.

[GitmoVet]

I don't recall anyone showing up in sandals and a t-shirt. I believe there were eight of us that interviewed on that day. Since your interview, have you got an email for the background check (Equip) and fingerprints?

Oh and to Ofc. Slater, the PTA was not bad. We ran around a track and the weather was sunny and around 77 degrees.

I was the next day, then. I've done everything, eqip, fingerprints, the whole deal, just waiting for my BI and EOD.

[PigsdoFly]

How common is it to interview at FO X and get offered FO Y?


It is common, happened to me. It will also depend on where you put you would go on your app.

On another note NO matter what others have said there ARE still a handfull of people going to be hired before the end of the fiscal year. That is STRAIGHT from the horses mouth. If you have finished everything as of May then you have a shot, but if you are still in the process then you will wait until the next year. Once the buget is aproved and Oct 01 comes then more calls will go out. Good luck to all.

[ButterChunk]

Hi, I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I was wondering if anyone on the forum has heard anything out of the Cincinnatti Field Office. I had my panel interview on April 10th of this year. I am trying to get in touch with the guys I that had their panel interview on April 10th. Have any of you heard anything and where are you in the process. Thanks!

Skynet, I processed through CVG on 4/9 and received "the call" for ORD last month. Hopefully PigsDoFly is correct and more calls are coming! :)

[Skynet]

I was the next day, then. I've done everything, eqip, fingerprints, the whole deal, just waiting for my BI and EOD.
I hope they get in touch with me soon. I guess it is a hurry up and wait process. Oh yea, what happened to the guy in the t-shirt and sandals? I bet he was shocked when everyone else showed up in suit and tie. I just wonder why I have not got an email for eqip and fingerprints. I called Avue and they said to call this lady in Washington. She is supposed to take care of it. I don't want to mention her name because of privacy but I left her a message. Still have not heard anything.


Butterchunk, what does ORD mean? Thanks!

[PigsdoFly]

ORD Airport code for Chicago

[ButterChunk]

Butterchunk, what does ORD mean? Thanks!

Sorry - I've been with TSA for a few years as a regulatory inspector so all airports have been reduced to three letters in my brain! :D

[DEENIKE]

skynet

I was there that day I did get an offer and accepted. I also am aware that one or two other guys also got offers and accepted that were in our group that day. Be patient I think we had a solid group and most should get hired on.

[Md094]

I hope Congress will get the budget through on time this year, but it is highly unlikely they will with the election. But, maybe we will get lucky. :)

[jetset1]

It is common, happened to me. It will also depend on where you put you would go on your app.

On another note NO matter what others have said there ARE still a handfull of people going to be hired before the end of the fiscal year. That is STRAIGHT from the horses mouth. If you have finished everything as of May then you have a shot, but if you are still in the process then you will wait until the next year. Once the buget is aproved and Oct 01 comes then more calls will go out. Good luck to all.

Great news!! Thanks for the info!

[Taylor13]

So as a flight marshal you have to be trained in, EOD of all kinds, using a weapon in an AIRPLANE with out killing anyone or puncturing a hole in the plane and other martial arts things, and I'm sure a few classified things, is there anything else you guys do like fly planes too?

[Skynet]

Thanks for the info!

[03usmc51]

Were you there when "Casual Friday" showed up? Dude in sandals and a t-shirt? I interviewed there that day and I'm just waiting for the call.
No i dont think so when I went it was later in the day around 3pm no one else was there. thats ridiculous that a guy would show up to an interview with the federal goverment in sandals lol. I guess he was really confident in his abilities to get the job. So were you told that you were getting the call or did they send you an interview letting you know you passed the interview?

[GitmoVet]

I hope they get in touch with me soon. I guess it is a hurry up and wait process. Oh yea, what happened to the guy in the t-shirt and sandals? I bet he was shocked when everyone else showed up in suit and tie. I just wonder why I have not got an email for eqip and fingerprints. I called Avue and they said to call this lady in Washington. She is supposed to take care of it. I don't want to mention her name because of privacy but I left her a message. Still have not heard anything.


Butterchunk, what does ORD mean? Thanks!

They got rid of that guy quick. He didn't even make it into the office. They pulled him aside, had a little chat with him and he left before we all went in. In his half defense, I think he thought it was just going to be a PT test.

[03usmc51]

Were you there when "Casual Friday" showed up? Dude in sandals and a t-shirt? I interviewed there that day and I'm just waiting for the call.

Sorry I miss read the quote... ignore the post

[GitmoVet]

No i dont think so when I went it was later in the day around 3pm no one else was there. thats ridiculous that a guy would show up to an interview with the federal goverment in sandals lol. I guess he was really confident in his abilities to get the job. So were you told that you were getting the call or did they send you an interview letting you know you passed the interview?

I got an e-mail from someone in FAMS letting me know what to do. It was before my panel interview that they told me about it.

[Skynet]

How many interviewed in your group that day?

[GitmoVet]

How many interviewed in your group that day?

six or seven. A few cops, a TSA screener, a social security claims investigator, a fresh from the army guy, and me, satellite installer.

[Skynet]

DEENIKE, So what FO did you accept, if you don't mind me asking?

[vincentvega]

Hey guys and gals,

I applied about a month ago for DC office and have yet to receive the initial email. I am currently a FedLeo and have a BA, I was wondering if anyone knew if they have stopped processing new applications already?

[malipas]

Did anybody received Official Offer letter......I got call 703..but still waiting for official offer

[gsxridr2000]

malipas. When did you get the "703" call? What was your application timeline? FO?

I'm still waiting for the call.....

[Koa Uka]

skynet

I was there that day I did get an offer and accepted. I also am aware that one or two other guys also got offers and accepted that were in our group that day. Be patient I think we had a solid group and most should get hired on.

Looking for anyone headed for ORD soon. Need to split a room. Send me a PM.

[dclair]

dclair, are applying for the DEN FO? Last time I spoke to someone there they told me they were offering 4 individuals positions and that the calls had already gone out for them.

Yes, I am being processed out of the DEN FO. After I completed the phone interview I recieved the EQIP email which I submitted over two months ago. I called the FO to confirm that my packet had been received. They acknowledeged that it had been recieved and to standby for information regarding the panel and PTA. I was under the impression that EQIP and prints usually came last, but realize that all FO's are different.

[malipas]

malipas. When did you get the "703" call? What was your application timeline? FO?

I'm still waiting for the call.....

I got the call a month ago...still waiting for Official...I will call them and make sure mysecurity clearence is OK

[Bearcat357]

So as a flight marshal you have to be trained in, EOD of all kinds, using a weapon in an AIRPLANE with out killing anyone or puncturing a hole in the plane and other martial arts things, and I'm sure a few classified things, is there anything else you guys do like fly planes too?

Errr....that's talking about the operational capacity of what FAMS do......and that is OPSEC......

Anyone talks about that.....the great o.com chopper will swoop down and remove the post and smack them in the head for posting....

[Short-Round]

Have you heard anything from the Denver office? I am waiting as well, I have completed both interviews, testing, and PT test. They advised we would hear something at the end of May for the June/July class's, I am still waiting what is your status?

[gonefishin]

So as a flight marshal you have to be trained in, EOD of all kinds, using a weapon in an AIRPLANE with out killing anyone or puncturing a hole in the plane and other martial arts things, and I'm sure a few classified things, is there anything else you guys do like fly planes too?

Errr....that's talking about the operational capacity of what FAMS do......and that is OPSEC......

Anyone talks about that.....the great o.com chopper will swoop down and remove the post and smack them in the head for posting....

Its not all OPSEC....FAMS are trained in advanced ninja tactics, use special high tech ice/plasma bullets and are qualified to fly anything from a kite to an A380. Leonard Nimoy also stops by the academy and teaches FAMS the Vulcan Neck Pinch.

[GitmoVet]

Its not all OPSEC....FAMS are trained in advanced ninja tactics, use special high tech ice/plasma bullets and are qualified to fly anything from a kite to an A380. Leonard Nimoy also stops by the academy and teaches FAMS the Vulcan Neck Pinch.

So those guys I see going through security in ninja suits are FAMS? :eek:

[manstown]

So those guys I see going through security in ninja suits are FAMS? :eek:

No....those are the ex-SS supervisors trying to spy on the FAMS that actually do their job. The FAMS are the ones doing hondo rolls down the jetway.

[Taylor13]

Errr....that's talking about the operational capacity of what FAMS do......and that is OPSEC......

Anyone talks about that.....the great o.com chopper will swoop down and remove the post and smack them in the head for posting....

Oh, alright. I understand. I just wanted to know if you were allowed to say at all. Thanks for making that clear.

[Koa Uka]

I need to get in touch w anyone going to Chicago FO soon. Please PM me.

[DEENIKE]

Is there anyone here going toward Newark FO. PM me asap

[Bearcat357]

No....those are the ex-SS supervisors trying to spy on the FAMS that actually do their job.

I've heard that still goes on in some FOs..... :rolleyes:

[GWARDEN234]

anybody else who got the call from training today from the wfo, the call was broken up on my end. I know he said be there at 9 and bring pt gear but i didnt catch what he said wear. can someone fill me in on that last part, i think he said business casual but not sure

[FMF Doc]

Yeah I got the call as well. 0900 in Business attire, but bring along pt gear.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

My SAIC said that we have hired all the new hires for this year. And the Miami new hires have been called. Just heard it from him today. I asked him about next year and he said we would not know until the new administration came in and new budget comes out.

Also FAMs who did not make the news.
Story 1)
Two FAMs were jumped by a bunch of street thugs, off duty; and were losing the fight because they were out numbered. One FAM had to pull his weapon and go to work, 4 rounds fired. (True story) Not sure if bad guys were hit or not.

Story 2)
FAM was almost carjacked when he had to pull his weapon and go to work. Bad guy hit 3 times in the chest.

[Steve03xx]

My SAIC said that we have hired all the new hires for this year. And the Miami new hires have been called. Just heard it from him today. I asked him about next year and he said we would not know until the new administration came in and new budget comes out.



I can't say that I'm not disappointed, but this takes a little pressure off. I, for one, will take the summer to clean up the things I can and prepare for winter classes. I still have hope!!!:)

[gpan202]

My SAIC said that we have hired all the new hires for this year. And the Miami new hires have been called. Just heard it from him today. I asked him about next year and he said we would not know until the new administration came in and new budget comes out.

Also FAMs who did not make the news.
Story 1)
Two FAMs were jumped by a bunch of street thugs, off duty; and were losing the fight because they were out numbered. One FAM had to pull his weapon and go to work, 4 rounds fired. (True story) Not sure if bad guys were hit or not.

Story 2)
FAM was almost carjacked when he had to pull his weapon and go to work. Bad guy hit 3 times in the chest.


Yep...got the same thing when I talked to the lady from HR a few weeks ago...the old list 2005/2006 is obsolete, and they are not hiring off that anymore. Kinda ****es me off. Any hiring will be done off the list from the end of 2007.

[Thor1911]

Yep...got the same thing when I talked to the lady from HR a few weeks ago...the old list 2005/2006 is obsolete, and they are not hiring off that anymore. Kinda ****es me off. Any hiring will be done off the list from the end of 2007.
Are the "Lists" based upon when you started the application process or as of the last part of the application process completed?

I start my original application in September 2006 and finished E-quip, PT, Medical, and finger prints in March 2008. I was then asked to do a second application in April and completed the Phone interview, panel interview, written test, PT, and drug test in record time in April 2008. I have been waiting for "the call" since mid to late April!!!

I can confirm that our HR person at my local FO said that they were done hiring for the year. I was not sure if they ment calendar or fiscal year. I am hoping fiscal year so I can still go in the fall/winter.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Are the "Lists" based upon when you started the application process or as of the last part of the application process completed?

I start my original application in September 2006 and finished E-quip, PT, Medical, and finger prints in March 2008. I was then asked to do a second application in April and completed the Phone interview, panel interview, written test, PT, and drug test in record time in April 2008. I have been waiting for "the call" since mid to late April!!!

I can confirm that our HR person at my local FO said that they were done hiring for the year. I was not sure if they ment calendar or fiscal year. I am hoping fiscal year so I can still go in the fall/winter.
My SAIC said that he made a list that he wanted to hire and sent it up to HQ and then they made the decision off that list.

[audi0xpl0de]

Speaking of which, I just received this email:

"The Federal Air Marshal Service is not anticipating any additional hiring activities for Federal Air Marshals in the near future. However, we will keep your application on file for consideration for future hiring opportunities. We will review your information along with the information of others who applied for the vacancy when we determine more vacant positions exist."

[VCSOMotor91]

Speaking of which, I just received this email:

"The Federal Air Marshal Service is not anticipating any additional hiring activities for Federal Air Marshals in the near future. However, we will keep your application on file for consideration for future hiring opportunities. We will review your information along with the information of others who applied for the vacancy when we determine more vacant positions exist."


Did you get this today? Did anyone else get this e-mail?

[audi0xpl0de]

I just received it about 5 minutes ago.

[PigsdoFly]

Rumor has it that there are classes scheduled from now untill Jan 09.

[David95XJ]

just got it like 30 seconds ago

[jimjimjim]

I just received it about 5 minutes ago.

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