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FCAP_2008
04-28-2008, 03:45 PM
Well I did have to go get a phsical and papers signed at my doctors but you guys said it was a federal doctor so I dont know.

Time4newjob
04-28-2008, 05:10 PM
I have a question about starting salary. When, or if you get an offer for employment, is that just base salary not including LEAP or COLA? Or does the local FO give you a number that includes all pay? Thanks, this is my first post I hope that this wasn't covered already..

manstown
04-28-2008, 05:51 PM
When you get hired they will give you a base salary. From there they will explain what the locality pay is and the LEAP pay. They will add those numbers and tell you what you'll be getting as a whole.

GWARDEN234
04-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Your offer will include base pay plus leap plus cola. One big number ultimately broken down. I had about 30 guys at my PAT ranging from 20 pull-ups to none, same with pull-ups sit-ups pushups and the run ranged from 8 minutes to 14 minutes. I would say almost half had excellent, the rest in between good and fair. I got a call for dd-214 and transcripts as well as a request for my agencies internal affairs investigator to call the FAMS to ensure a clean professional record. During that phone call was when I was told my package was going to the board. Hope this clarifies. This information is not fact in all cases obviously, but in my case this is how it went.

warrior 76
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
the steps:

apply
phone interview
background info -equip(OPM)
contingency offer
2 Written Test
panel interview
ASAC interview(if you pass panel)
PTA-consist of pullups(not timed), pushups(1 min), situps(1min), mile n half run
for the PTA I can give you my age group for excellent. im over 30 /male
Pullups-10 or more is excellent
Pushups 50 or more is excellent
situps 43 or more is excellent
mile n half run 10min 42sec

just to give you an idea

cant go into what the written test is about....we have to sign a statement saying we cant discuss what the test or panel is about.....dont worry about them you should do fine
thanks a mil, so far i have completed equip and submitted now i guess whatever comes first within 2 to 4 weeks. again thank you very much and i hope you get the job.

bombguy
04-28-2008, 07:45 PM
does anyone know if I should call my field office if I haven't heard anything since the phone interview? It's been almost a month but I'm not sure if it would look good if I called them...


I would say that if they gave you a contact number if you had question, then go ahead and call. After my panel I called about once every month and a half just to make sure I was still in the process. The field office I was administratively held to did not mind one bit. I think it also conveys that you are showing real interest instead of just letting it come as it may....just simple follow up.

AV8TOR
04-28-2008, 07:45 PM
I'm in the same boat as FCAP 2008 and GuyinCali

I finished all the steps on the old application. After my last step I was called by HR for copies of my DD214, that is the person told me my packet was complete and was sending it to the hiring manager.

AV

Rather_Static
04-28-2008, 07:48 PM
I just pulled the chaulks on the FAMS today boys....you guys stick with it...it'll hit. Sounds like the new process is moving faster than the old.

Good luck to all, hope to run into you guys one way or another out there!

Semper Fi.

VCSOMotor91
04-28-2008, 08:10 PM
I'm in the same boat as FCAP 2008 and GuyinCali

I finished all the steps on the old application. After my last step I was called by HR for copies of my DD214, that is the person told me my packet was complete and was sending it to the hiring manager.

AV

Did you scan and upload a copy of your DD-214 on AVUE?

Md094
04-28-2008, 08:11 PM
I just pulled the chaulks on the FAMS today boys....you guys stick with it...it'll hit. Sounds like the new process is moving faster than the old.

Good luck to all, hope to run into you guys one way or another out there!

Semper Fi.

Good luck in whatever you do and stay safe!!!

VCSOMotor91
04-28-2008, 08:20 PM
Just out of curiousity, for those that have taken the PAT and watched other applicants take it at that time, what would you say the average score was? Some fair, some good? All good? Some excellent some good?


I took the PAT in Orlando. 15 People showed up and 75% were local LEO's. We had three people knock out 25 pull-ups (Firecop 22 was one of them:p). Everybody did well. I was very impressed.

dtown101
04-28-2008, 09:17 PM
thanks a mil, so far i have completed equip and submitted now i guess whatever comes first within 2 to 4 weeks. again thank you very much and i hope you get the job.

also check your credit report because they will check it....mine was check by TSA on 4-22-08

FCAP_2008
04-28-2008, 09:20 PM
I dont know what that is but I belive it is just for Military guys. I didnt know you were suppose to do way over the Max on the PTA. I only did one over the Max on each of the events and came in 10.05 for the run. Guess I did bad o well.

bluecollar$
04-28-2008, 09:58 PM
I dont know what that is but I belive it is just for Military guys. I didnt know you were suppose to do way over the Max on the PTA. I only did one over the Max on each of the events and came in 10.05 for the run. Guess I did bad o well.
I highly doubt if you did the max in each event it would be considered bad:D
DD214 is a copy of your discharge. I don't think the pta has any more wieght then anything else....You get a total score,I didn't see a spot for extra credit:D Just guessing but the panel would be the most important thing,I'd think. I did very well on my pta so thats not why I'm saying this....The written test may not even count...("pilot",first time used in the process)

AV8TOR
04-28-2008, 09:58 PM
Did you scan and upload a copy of your DD-214 on AVUE?

I did scan them but they had some additional questions that they called to clearify. Got it taken care of so my packet would go to the hiring panel/manager. Came from the infamous "703" number.

AV

Lucky 317
04-28-2008, 09:59 PM
I dont know what that is but I belive it is just for Military guys. I didnt know you were suppose to do way over the Max on the PTA. I only did one over the Max on each of the events and came in 10.05 for the run. Guess I did bad o well.

DD214 are your Discharge Papers and Veterans Separation Documents. So yes, they are for military personnel only. As for your PT test, I cant imagine you did bad, if you maxed out on every exercise. I wish I could run a 10min 1.5 mile. My personal best was 12:43 during my police academy.

dtown101
04-28-2008, 10:40 PM
I dont know what that is but I belive it is just for Military guys. I didnt know you were suppose to do way over the Max on the PTA. I only did one over the Max on each of the events and came in 10.05 for the run. Guess I did bad o well.

dude if you maxed out on all catagories i would not worry about it...i ran a 9:57 and i think it was a ok time but still in the excellent ....

bombguy
04-28-2008, 10:44 PM
DD214 are your Discharge Papers and Veterans Separation Documents. So yes, they are for military personnel only. As for your PT test, I cant imagine you did bad, if you maxed out on every exercise. I wish I could run a 10min 1.5 mile. My personal best was 12:43 during my police academy.


Dude I ran the 1.5 in 12:31...it was the only thing I scored badly on. Granted, it was done at 5700ft. Everything else I maxed out on....I weightlift and never run and it was reflected.

blueshield22
04-28-2008, 11:54 PM
I personally think that as long as you do decent in the pat you will be just fine. doing 25 pullups is impressive but it does not make you a great law enforcement officer/agent. You will probably be made or broken based on your experience and panel interview.

ochoism
04-29-2008, 12:09 AM
I personally think that as long as you do decent in the pat you will be just fine. doing 25 pullups is impressive but it does not make you a great law enforcement officer/agent. You will probably be made or broken based on your experience and panel interview.

I think the panel has more weight, the job announcement says the PTA is to ensure you won't get hurt during the basic training.

You must have done your PT early, I got there at 10am and did it alone; not in a group. I don't think I did so hot on the PT test, my long monkey arms didn't help. If you hear anything from them about medical or what not make a post and I'll do the same.

shawnali
04-29-2008, 01:16 AM
What's up guys, I am hearing a lot of movement but is it only from the old announcement. Has there been any movement on the new announcement, passed the phone interview. Also I heard form the NYFO they can’t get agents to do the panels due to they have to do a lot of international flights because of that cnn story.

Any heads-up would be grateful

GuyinCali
04-29-2008, 01:45 AM
also check your credit report because they will check it....mine was check by TSA on 4-22-08

How did you check your credit to show that TSA reviewed your credit?

horse
04-29-2008, 02:43 AM
they def check it.they checked mine in feb.the gov has a site where you can get your report for free....cant remember right now ,try a google search,and ill try to find it in the mean time and let you know as soon as i can

dtown101
04-29-2008, 06:04 AM
How did you check your credit to show that TSA reviewed your credit?

I have an alert on all 3 bureaus whenever someone does a credit check on me it sends me a email ...and just last week i got a alert ...so I called and they told me it was from TSA for a job

futurefed21
04-29-2008, 08:04 AM
What's up guys, I am hearing a lot of movement but is it only from the old announcement. Has there been any movement on the new announcement, passed the phone interview. Also I heard form the NYFO they can’t get agents to do the panels due to they have to do a lot of international flights because of that cnn story.

Any heads-up would be grateful

well that would explain why ive alrady done all my BI forms & livescan finerprints but STILL NO PANEL!!! :confused:

blueshield22
04-29-2008, 10:01 AM
I think the panel has more weight, the job announcement says the PTA is to ensure you won't get hurt during the basic training.

You must have done your PT early, I got there at 10am and did it alone; not in a group. I don't think I did so hot on the PT test, my long monkey arms didn't help. If you hear anything from them about medical or what not make a post and I'll do the same.

I did mine on friday at 2pm with 4 others. I dont think alot of people made it to the PAT portion but I could be wrong....It seems that the medical may not be required for your packet to go to the board because all of our stuff (those of us who took our PAT on Friday) were told that we were completely done and that our packets were being sent off to DC. Who knows though????

blueshield22
04-29-2008, 10:03 AM
What's up guys, I am hearing a lot of movement but is it only from the old announcement. Has there been any movement on the new announcement, passed the phone interview. Also I heard form the NYFO they can’t get agents to do the panels due to they have to do a lot of international flights because of that cnn story.

Any heads-up would be grateful

That sucks to hear for ya man.... Some other FO's are moving along pretty quickly but we were told that some such as NY were really busy with international flights. The guys that I went with at the Dallas FO are done and waiting for "The Call".....

scout242
04-29-2008, 11:08 AM
well that would explain why ive alrady done all my BI forms & livescan finerprints but STILL NO PANEL!!! :confused:

I'm in the same boat :confused:

FCAP_2008
04-29-2008, 12:10 PM
Looks like there is alot of Packets for DC to review. Good luck everyone.

bluecollar$
04-29-2008, 01:34 PM
By my calculation(which means nothing) basically a guess.

---21 FO with an average of 25 people who made it all the way equals about 500 canidates total. Does that sound right? Some FO had less some had more, in philly we had about 30 guys that got to the PTA.

Well anyway good luck to all.......

jimjimjim
04-29-2008, 01:43 PM
By my calculation(which means nothing) basically a guess.

---21 FO with an average of 25 people who made it all the way equals about 500 canidates total. Does that sound right? Some FO had less some had more, in philly we had about 30 guys that got to the PTA.

Well anyway good luck to all.......

At the Chicago FO they had multiple days for the individuals doing the PTA.

Md094
04-29-2008, 02:19 PM
How do you know they asked for each FO top 5 to be sent to HQ?

bluecollar$
04-29-2008, 02:21 PM
At the Chicago FO they had multiple days for the individuals doing the PTA.

We asked and they said the total today plus another 4 or 5 the next day or so (make ups). So phila. total was around 30ish. AHHH I guess it doesn't really matter just have to wait and see:D

FCAP_2008
04-29-2008, 03:36 PM
I would say there is closer to 1000 people in the pool if not more. If you are just counting packets at DC right now, I guess there could be around 400 500
If they want the top five they must be trying to fill the class that is starting in May I would think but who knows.

blueshield22
04-29-2008, 03:46 PM
How do you know they asked for each FO top 5 to be sent to HQ?

You are right they were asked for their top 5 canidates.....The Dallas FO was the same and not that many made it to the PTA....

BPD Once
04-29-2008, 03:52 PM
Any idea on when a class is starting. I am from the new announcement and have submitted transcripts and DD214 to HQ. Just curious as to a possible time line if any active FAMS are on the board.

GuyinCali
04-29-2008, 03:55 PM
Has anyone on the new announcement that completed their Assessment Date (PTA, Panel Interview, two written test, and SAC Interview), have you received any calls since back? Calls from HR for additional information?

horse
04-29-2008, 03:59 PM
new class starts beginning of june.calls are going out

GuyinCali
04-29-2008, 04:10 PM
I have completed the process on the old announcement and the new announcement. I was told my old app. is now in the hiring managers hand.

Praying for an EOD...

Bama Boy
04-29-2008, 04:19 PM
Has anyone on the new announcement that completed their Assessment Date (PTA, Panel Interview, two written test, and SAC Interview), have you received any calls since back? Calls from HR for additional information?
I was contacted 2 weeks ago for additional documents such as transcripts and awards.

Navalaircrewman
04-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Greetings from the sunny Persian Gulf

USVET
04-29-2008, 05:21 PM
Good to hear from you. Hows the weather? Are you in the barracks? I dont miss it there one bit.

Navalaircrewman
04-29-2008, 06:02 PM
Good to hear from you. Hows the weather? Are you in the barracks? I dont miss it there one bit.

heh, what's goin on..the weather was blazing hot today. the dust in the air is making me sick. I'm in the barracks until the day before i leave, then move to hotel. not sure which yet. THe security is REALLY tight right now over here. Flew 8.4 hrs today. 4.5 yesterday. crew rest tomorrow. We have RON this weekend

Navalaircrewman
04-29-2008, 06:15 PM
Good to hear from you. Hows the weather? Are you in the barracks? I dont miss it there one bit.


We're picking up the slack for a busted C-130..HMMMM

USVET
04-29-2008, 07:03 PM
I can't fly all the C-130's all of the time. I heard that base has changed quite a bit. Any news on the FAM front?

blueshield22
04-30-2008, 12:34 AM
I keep hearing about this May class. What day in May is it supposed to start???? I know the June class starts on the 22gnd.

bombguy
04-30-2008, 12:45 AM
I keep hearing about this May class. What day in May is it supposed to start???? I know the June class starts on the 22gnd.

I don't believe there is a May class...just June.

GuyinCali
04-30-2008, 01:29 AM
I don't believe there is a May class...just June.

I believe the May class starts May 5th, that group is in NJ this week. One of my good friends is their now in Phase 1, and said there is only one class every 7 weeks. He heads to NJ this Friday to start Phase 2. So, Phase 1, next class is May 5, then that would make the next class on June 23.

So I am Praying for and EOD, to make it to Phase 1 in the June class....

blueshield22
04-30-2008, 01:43 AM
I believe the May class starts May 5th, that group is in NJ this week. One of my good friends is their now in Phase 1, and said there is only one class every 7 weeks. He heads to NJ this Friday to start Phase 2. So, Phase 1, next class is May 5, then that would make the next class on June 23.

So I am Praying for and EOD, to make it to Phase 1 in the June class....

I heard about the one on june 22-23 and one on july 6.....did your friend say how many were in his class????

GuyinCali
04-30-2008, 09:25 AM
I heard about the one on june 22-23 and one on july 6.....did your friend say how many were in his class????

Not more then 40 per class...

Praying for an EOD...

blueshield22
04-30-2008, 09:55 AM
Not more then 40 per class...

Praying for an EOD...

I wonder then because the rumored number of marshals they are trying to hire is up around 350-400.....That seems like alot of classes if they are running 40 per class and the classes are only every 7 weeks.....

Rolla
04-30-2008, 10:33 AM
Not more then 40 per class...

Praying for an EOD...

It can be over 40, the gov. wants to pack in as many as possible so there could be up to 60.

blueshield22
04-30-2008, 12:17 PM
It can be over 40, the gov. wants to pack in as many as possible so there could be up to 60.

So how many classes total are they planning on running this fiscal year because I was told they wanted everybody hired by the end of the fiscal year.

FCAP_2008
04-30-2008, 12:48 PM
Well at my field office they told me they wanted to hire about 150 people this year but others say it is around 350-400 so i dont know.

ochoism
04-30-2008, 04:41 PM
So if we've completed the interviews (phone, panel, & SAIC), written test, video test, livescan fingerprints, eQIP, and PTA then there would be nothing left would there? Since they don't do the psych test anymore and i hear they don't do the medical until after they make a firm job offer. So I take it we're pretty much done and are waiting for the selecting official to decide?

FCAP_2008
04-30-2008, 05:18 PM
Yes I think that is correct. :D

shawnali
04-30-2008, 07:17 PM
Glad to see movement is growing. Any one form the new announcement located in the New York area get passed the phone interview this week?

Good luck to all
Semper Fi

KIDFIRE79
04-30-2008, 07:21 PM
So if we've completed the interviews (phone, panel, & SAIC), written test, video test, livescan fingerprints, eQIP, and PTA then there would be nothing left would there? Since they don't do the psych test anymore and i hear they don't do the medical until after they make a firm job offer. So I take it we're pretty much done and are waiting for the selecting official to decide?

ochoism, I am in the same boat you are in. After speaking with HR in my Field Office, I was advised that there was nothing else left to do other then await selection by the hiring manager and notification of your EOD.

The waiting game begins...........Good luck :confused:

GuyinCali
04-30-2008, 08:29 PM
Anyone under the old announcement heard anything, calls? Also did those on the old announcement also put in on the new announcement? Did you guys redo the PTA, panel interview, and SAC interview.

I am under both old and new. Completed everything on old back in March, including Panel Interveiw, Medical, and SAC Interview.
On the new announcement, completed the Assessment Date last week, and I redid the Panel Interview, PTA and SAC Interview. Not sure if the Medical will have to be redone since I just completed that in March.

Praying for an EOD...

Zerosum
04-30-2008, 09:41 PM
I applied under both announcements. I was e-mailed to do the physical in Feb, but due to being at tech school right now with the USAF I was unable to do the physical until April... then the doctor didn't show up to the physical. :mad:

I called around and was told by FAMS and Avue that people were no longer being picked up under the old announcement (not sure if that includes those who have completed all steps). So I did the phone interview under the new announcement and will have my panel when I finally finish my tech school... in August... :eek: The ASAIC said to hope that all of the slots weren't full by then and that they were moving full steam with the new announcements.

bombguy
05-01-2008, 12:01 AM
So I heard some "not so great" info today. Apparently the TSA has issued a letter to the Salt Lake City Federal Occupational Health office to no longer perform exams on FAM candidates. I don't know what this could mean for people still in the process, just interesting.

GuyinCali
05-01-2008, 12:10 AM
So I heard some "not so great" info today. Apparently the TSA has issued a letter to the Salt Lake City Federal Occupational Health office to no longer perform exams on FAM candidates. I don't know what this could mean for people still in the process, just interesting.

Do you think that is the word at all the FOH offices? I completed my at the FOH office in LA, back in March... Good thing, I hope...

Praying for an EOD...

blueshield22
05-01-2008, 12:43 AM
So I heard some "not so great" info today. Apparently the TSA has issued a letter to the Salt Lake City Federal Occupational Health office to no longer perform exams on FAM candidates. I don't know what this could mean for people still in the process, just interesting.

It does not mean anything....I was already told that the physical was not required anymore nor was the complete BI with fingerprints prior to being given an EOD anymore due to the fact that they are trying to speed the hiring processup....people ned to keep applying if they want!!!

dtown101
05-01-2008, 06:12 AM
Anyone under the old announcement heard anything, calls? Also did those on the old announcement also put in on the new announcement? Did you guys redo the PTA, panel interview, and SAC interview.

I am under both old and new. Completed everything on old back in March, including Panel Interveiw, Medical, and SAC Interview.
On the new announcement, completed the Assessment Date last week, and I redid the Panel Interview, PTA and SAC Interview. Not sure if the Medical will have to be redone since I just completed that in March.

Praying for an EOD...

I applied under the old announcement in July 06 and finished the whole process and DIDNT get a bqa letter and then I applied under the new announcement and finished the whole process...i dont think their will be a new medical becaue before we had to go see our dr to get approved to do the PTA....

Up_On_Base
05-01-2008, 07:44 AM
It does not mean anything....I was already told that the physical was not required anymore nor was the complete BI with fingerprints prior to being given an EOD anymore due to the fact that they are trying to speed the hiring processup....people ned to keep applying if they want!!!

I understand and appreciate the need for a quick process. But not completing the BI or give a medical?????

That is just crazy.

Also - anyone know the turnover rate among FAMS and what reasons?

blueshield22
05-01-2008, 09:12 AM
I understand and appreciate the need for a quick process. But not completing the BI or give a medical?????

That is just crazy.

Also - anyone know the turnover rate among FAMS and what reasons?

Ok first off a full TS Clearance can take more than a year to get so you are not going to have that complete for a while past your EOD....Second a physical can be done very quickly after you recieve your EOD or be done while processing to go to the academy....Now I was not making that up off the top of my head I was using information from a very good source.....The Feds can check your backround quickly to ensure no crimminal past and have you report for your EOD and finish your TS after that while you are training....happens all the time!

ochoism
05-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Blueshield22 is right. They will do a BI, prior to EOD they will do a preliminary background CHECK (different from investigation). Once you report they will start the full BI; which can take over a year to complete but usually not. I currently work for TSA and we had to go through a single scope BI; which were not completed for several months after we had already been working. Some folks were terminated because they couldn't even get a sensitive clearence. Also, we wouldn't have done eQIP if they weren't going to do it; I've been told eQIP is very fast too.

USVET
05-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Does anyone know if you already have a current TS w/ a SSBI do you have to go through another SF-86? It seems like they should honor it, but you just never know.

Bearcat357
05-01-2008, 10:47 AM
Does anyone know if you already have a current TS w/ a SSBI do you have to go through another SF-86? It seems like they should honor it, but you just never know.

You will I am suspecting...as most agencies don't except each others.....

I went from DHS to DOD and had to do my stuff all over....it didn't take that long.....but still.....

My Boss at DHS came over from DOD and it was the same for him.....

Freaking USG....:rolleyes:

USVET
05-01-2008, 12:16 PM
That is ridiculous considering it is all done through the same place OPM. Well I requested a copy of my investigation so it should be a lot easier the second time around. As long as I get a CALL!!!

Bearcat357
05-01-2008, 12:22 PM
That is ridiculous considering it is all done through the same place OPM.

It's crazy and a waste of money.....aka our tax dollars....:mad:

I had just (stressing just...like 2 weeks before I got the offer) updated my stuff through DHS.....and DOD wouldn't take it..... :rolleyes:

I had to re-do my Equip through OPM and waited another 3-4 weeks before I got cleared to be hired.... :rolleyes:

Zerosum
05-01-2008, 12:26 PM
One reason they may not accept a TS clearance is that this is for a law enforcement position. Law Enforcement TS' require the Investigator to ask the subject and sources additional questions and probably has different adjudication requirements as well. Not all SSBI's leading to a TS clearance are the same... unfortunately...

Up_On_Base
05-01-2008, 01:48 PM
Ok first off a full TS Clearance can take more than a year to get so you are not going to have that complete for a while past your EOD....Second a physical can be done very quickly after you recieve your EOD or be done while processing to go to the academy....Now I was not making that up off the top of my head I was using information from a very good source.....The Feds can check your backround quickly to ensure no crimminal past and have you report for your EOD and finish your TS after that while you are training....happens all the time!

I understand where you guys are coming from, when I was w/ the USSS we had a security interview w/ BI, full field BI and medical performed before going to FLETC.

It makes sense to me that you don't want to send a recruit to FLETC and pay for that training if there is even a small chance they might get canned.

Bama Boy
05-01-2008, 02:38 PM
Does anyone know if you already have a current TS w/ a SSBI do you have to go through another SF-86? It seems like they should honor it, but you just never know.
Everyone has to do all of the security paperwork and fingerprints. After everything is completed, the TSA security personnel will look at your package and current clearance, then make a decision to accept your clearance or not. If you are coimg from another federal agency, they may accpet your current clearance. If you are DOD, then they will probably conduct another investigation on you. That is standard policy with most federal agencies. I just started with the FAMS in a different position and the TSA security accepted my current clearance for both the current postion and as an applicant for the Air Marshal postion.

blueshield22
05-01-2008, 03:49 PM
Everyone has to do all of the security paperwork and fingerprints. After everything is completed, the TSA security personnel will look at your package and current clearance, then make a decision to accept your clearance or not. If you are coimg from another federal agency, they may accpet your current clearance. If you are DOD, then they will probably conduct another investigation on you. That is standard policy with most federal agencies. I just started with the FAMS in a different position and the TSA security accepted my current clearance for both the current postion and as an applicant for the Air Marshal postion.

I completed the equip through CBP just last month and sent in fingerprints ect... since they are DHS as well is that maybe why I have completed everything and been told that I am done even though I have not gotten an equip from TSA though I did get my COE?????? I wonder since they are under the same department if they can accept that equip and info....It is the same OPM officer so I would think so!

Bama Boy
05-01-2008, 04:17 PM
I completed the equip through CBP just last month and sent in fingerprints ect... since they are DHS as well is that maybe why I have completed everything and been told that I am done even though I have not gotten an equip from TSA though I did get my COE?????? I wonder since they are under the same department if they can accept that equip and info....It is the same OPM officer so I would think so!
If you were a CBP employee, they would probably accept your clearance. I just came from CBP and they accpeted mine. Unfortunately if you just submitted everything to CBP as an applicant, you will still have to submit evrything to the FAMS as well. The DHS agencies do not cumminate in reguards to applicants. OPM investigators do not always talk either. When I was hired by CBP 2 years ago, I had to do another SSBI while DOD was doing my SSBI reinvestigation. I was being contacted by 2 different OPM invetigators at the same time. What a waste of time and money.

warrior 76
05-01-2008, 04:52 PM
Glad to see movement is growing. Any one form the new announcement located in the New York area get passed the phone interview this week?

Good luck to all
Semper Fi
hi semper fi devil,
I applied in feb. and had my phone interview in early march and later on contigent offer latter, last week i finished my eqip and recieved ok from personnel security office. She told me they will start the investigation and i will get my interview within 4 weeks.

gonefishin
05-01-2008, 05:07 PM
If you were a CBP employee, they would probably accept your clearance. I just came from CBP and they accpeted mine. Unfortunately if you just submitted everything to CBP as an applicant, you will still have to submit evrything to the FAMS as well. The DHS agencies do not cumminate in reguards to applicants. OPM investigators do not always talk either. When I was hired by CBP 2 years ago, I had to do another SSBI while DOD was doing my SSBI reinvestigation. I was being contacted by 2 different OPM invetigators at the same time. What a waste of time and money.

A guy in my office brought his CBP clearance over to FAMS when he was hired a year and a half ago. (He actually signed of on his TS whe he came to FAMS) He just got contacted a few weeks ago and was told that since FAMS never did a BI on him they needed him to fill out an SF-86 and that they might have to do an entire BI on him.

EWUCrimj
05-01-2008, 05:53 PM
Forgive me for being new at this, but what is the Eqip? Is it what we filled out when we accepted our COE?

Bearcat357
05-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Forgive me for being new at this, but what is the Eqip?

It's your SF86....aka your Federal Background/Security Form....

It's filled out online now....and you can't do it until you get "invited" to do so by your Agency......

My advice is to have your stuff together that goes back 10 years...jobs, places you lived, people who knew you when you were there, school info, etc.... And you will need to know current phone numbers....as they will contact the people......

GuyinCali
05-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Forgive me for being new at this, but what is the Eqip? Is it what we filled out when we accepted our COE?

You will receive an email stating to complete you BI thur eQIP, within the next five days. So you have to log on, it's thru OPM, and you are given rights to log on and that is where you would complete you BI. Then you would have to print the release forms and fax them back to the Personnel Security Division.
I completed my back in March 08, this was on the old announcement...
I also completed the process for the new announcement last week...

So I am Praying on an EOD...

EWUCrimj
05-01-2008, 06:18 PM
You will receive an email stating to complete you BI thur eQIP, within the next five days.

I accepted my COE a couple weeks ago and am scheduled for my Panel/PTA/Written tests for middle may. Is it strange that I havent filled on out yet or is it done after you pass?

Md094
05-01-2008, 06:21 PM
You will receive an email stating to complete you BI thur eQIP, within the next five days. So you have to log on, it's thru OPM, and you are given rights to log on and that is where you would complete you BI. Then you would have to print the release forms and fax them back to the Personnel Security Division.
I completed my back in March 08, this was on the old announcement...
I also completed the process for the new announcement last week...

So I am Praying on an EOD...

But...AVUE has had some problems with it all working right. I sent them an email and they advised "they are aware of some issues" and to "standby for further instructions." I am still standing by...

GuyinCali
05-01-2008, 06:34 PM
I accepted my COE a couple weeks ago and am scheduled for my Panel/PTA/Written tests for middle may. Is it strange that I havent filled on out yet or is it done after you pass?

Are you under the new announcement? Not to sure how the new announcement process is working. My eQIP was for the old announcement, and I had only completed my panel interview (May 2007) up to that point. I completed my PTA and SAC the following week after I submitted my eQIP (March 2008)... So who knows how the process is really working.

Praying for an EOD...

SOLO
05-01-2008, 09:18 PM
Can any of u old timers tell me sumthin? im just about done w/ the process for the second time around, got the call from the investigator today who said asked me some last minute questions. He said he needed the info so he could send my packet to the Review Board. Did he mean the hiring board? Or is there a review board before the hiring board?

Somebody, anybody !

horse
05-01-2008, 09:36 PM
you will know when someone from "703" calls you and says.Hey Mr.....do you want the job.other than that,there is really no way to tell if you have been reviewed for hire.but sounds promising for you so far.but yes the review board is the same the hiring board.once you are selected you then be called by by human resources.

horse
05-01-2008, 09:42 PM
also from what i noticed as far as old and new announcments go.they can mix and match the two announcments.taking parts of each and blend them into your packet.im willing to bet they can do what ever they want how ever they want.

gpan202
05-01-2008, 09:47 PM
Round and round we go!!!!

Navalaircrewman
05-01-2008, 11:06 PM
Does anyone know if you already have a current TS w/ a SSBI do you have to go through another SF-86? It seems like they should honor it, but you just never know.

FYI, Federal agencies usually honor investigations from other federal agencies as long as OPM was the investigating agency. THe thing is, your previous investigation has to be no more than 36 months old. Example: if you had a BI done for your last investigation..then you'll still have to fill out a new document (sf-86/Eqip), and you now require an SSBI (for TS), then the two can marry together at OPM once the investigation starts, initiating an upgrade investigation, not a new FULL SSBI. This will definetely speed things up.
Now, if you had only a ANACI or NACLC, then you most likely would require a full SSBI for the TS. I use BI as an example, because a BI requires a interview,etc (just like the SSBI) the only diference is the BI needs only go back 7 years vice 10 years for the SSBI..and the lower two investigations do not. To get hired in the government...and get a final EOD..you can have your background paperwork initiated, and the agency wil do a NCIC/fingerprint check to preliminary clear you, review your paperwork, issue interim TS..and be good to go

bombguy
05-02-2008, 01:09 AM
So maybe someone can explain to me why it takes so long to get the "final offer" letter? I have been stressing about not receiving it yet. It's been a week and a half since I got the initial offer. Anyone?

Lazer
05-02-2008, 01:31 AM
HEY!!!!!!! Everyone has to chill on here. It seems like most of us have gone through the entire process already and are waiting to hear if we get the final offer or not. There are thousands of applicants in 20+ field offices..... for about 50-100 spots. People have failed the PT miserably and got hired, there is no"set" criteria per se for who gets it. It is luck of the draw, however the panel feels on any given day and who looks at your file, etc.... I waited 2 f***** years for a final offer on this job and nothing, I had to reapply in this new announcement, went through everything again last week. Most of you are very lucky they are moving this fast this time around!!!! DO NOT BANK ON THIS JOB!!!! Take tests and apps elsewhere, keep your aresenal full of opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!! FULL STEAM AHEAD!!!!





So maybe someone can explain to me why it takes so long to get the "final offer" letter? I have been stressing about not receiving it yet. It's been a week and a half since I got the initial offer. Anyone?

gpan202
05-02-2008, 02:06 AM
I dont think you have anything to worry about...but holy crap...did you give notice to your current job?





So maybe someone can explain to me why it takes so long to get the "final offer" letter? I have been stressing about not receiving it yet. It's been a week and a half since I got the initial offer. Anyone?

blueshield22
05-02-2008, 04:16 AM
HEY!!!!!!! Everyone has to chill on here. It seems like most of us have gone through the entire process already and are waiting to hear if we get the final offer or not. There are thousands of applicants in 20+ field offices..... for about 50-100 spots. People have failed the PT miserably and got hired, there is no"set" criteria per se for who gets it. It is luck of the draw, however the panel feels on any given day and who looks at your file, etc.... I waited 2 f***** years for a final offer on this job and nothing, I had to reapply in this new announcement, went through everything again last week. Most of you are very lucky they are moving this fast this time around!!!! DO NOT BANK ON THIS JOB!!!! Take tests and apps elsewhere, keep your aresenal full of opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!! FULL STEAM AHEAD!!!!

Well I dont think it is exactly the luck of the draw. First they take the veterans and look at their panel results and I'm sure they take in someone's experience into context as well. Thats only because of the veterans act. but to a degree I am sure they hire from a wide range of people. That keeps an organization diverse. I also think that this time around it is a bit more than 50-100 spots but who knows. you do have to stay positive and be patient. At least thats what I keep tellig myself :D!!!!

bombguy
05-02-2008, 09:30 AM
I dont think you have anything to worry about...but holy crap...did you give notice to your current job?

Well, my worrying was not worth the trouble last nite:o...I finally got a "welcome " letter from the LA FO this morning. Wow....at least its final enough. Hopefully I will be getting that final offer letter today or atleast soon just so I have it. But my name has been forwarded to the FO, so I would assume I have nothing to worry about anymore at this point.

GuyinCali
05-02-2008, 10:02 AM
Well I dont think it is exactly the luck of the draw. First they take the veterans and look at their panel results and I'm sure they take in someone's experience into context as well. Thats only because of the veterans act. but to a degree I am sure they hire from a wide range of people. That keeps an organization diverse. I also think that this time around it is a bit more than 50-100 spots but who knows. you do have to stay positive and be patient. At least thats what I keep tellig myself :D!!!!

I think some of it may be Luck of the Draw. When I was at the FO, one of the drivers waiting to go to Phase 1, he/she had degree, no LE at all and was a Massage Therapist??? Nothing aginst massage therapist, but is the degree all you have to have?

Praying for and EOD...

EWUCrimj
05-02-2008, 10:48 AM
Does anyone know how selective the FAMS are on who gets to the Panel/PTA/Testing portion of the process? I'd like to think i've come a long way but it seems like almost everybody makes it this far....... at least on this board.

Navalaircrewman
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Well, my worrying was not worth the trouble last nite:o...I finally got a "welcome " letter from the LA FO this morning. Wow....at least its final enough. Hopefully I will be getting that final offer letter today or atleast soon just so I have it. But my name has been forwarded to the FO, so I would assume I have nothing to worry about anymore at this point.

my question for everyone? Why worry and freak out over this stuff. If you've received a conditional offer from HR..awaiting the final, then it's a matter of time. My experience being with the federal gov for the last 5 years and 3 federal agencies..is they all take a long time to get paperwork done after you've been offered a job (conditionally) before you get a final. A lot of people on here seem to stress and worry a lot about little things (so I've observed). I've heard people ask questions about panel interviews and what to expect...PT test..and what to expect. If you can just be professional in the interview..who cares if you know what to expect. If you're stressing over the PT test. Do your best. . For those that just applied, you should be glad that things are apparently moving really fast now compared to the old announcement, and actually the whole government. My first gov job, I put an OF612 out there, waited over 5 months to get a rating in the mail...then finally got the interviews..then a conditional offer..then physical..then SF-86..then final offer. Total of over 9 months.
It's the normal deal in the federal government

Lazer
05-02-2008, 11:48 AM
Strong work Bomb Guy, glad to hear it!!!!!




Well, my worrying was not worth the trouble last nite:o...I finally got a "welcome " letter from the LA FO this morning. Wow....at least its final enough. Hopefully I will be getting that final offer letter today or atleast soon just so I have it. But my name has been forwarded to the FO, so I would assume I have nothing to worry about anymore at this point.

Lazer
05-02-2008, 11:49 AM
Right on man, you do know what you are talking about.




my question for everyone? Why worry and freak out over this stuff. If you've received a conditional offer from HR..awaiting the final, then it's a matter of time. My experience being with the federal gov for the last 5 years and 3 federal agencies..is they all take a long time to get paperwork done after you've been offered a job (conditionally) before you get a final. A lot of people on here seem to stress and worry a lot about little things (so I've observed). I've heard people ask questions about panel interviews and what to expect...PT test..and what to expect. If you can just be professional in the interview..who cares if you know what to expect. If you're stressing over the PT test. Do your best. . For those that just applied, you should be glad that things are apparently moving really fast now compared to the old announcement, and actually the whole government. My first gov job, I put an OF612 out there, waited over 5 months to get a rating in the mail...then finally got the interviews..then a conditional offer..then physical..then SF-86..then final offer. Total of over 9 months.
It's the normal deal in the federal government

gpan202
05-02-2008, 12:19 PM
From those of us that have been waiting patiently for years...days or even weeks to go through the entire process as Ive seen is a luxury. Im glad someone finally said it...




my question for everyone? Why worry and freak out over this stuff. If you've received a conditional offer from HR..awaiting the final, then it's a matter of time. My experience being with the federal gov for the last 5 years and 3 federal agencies..is they all take a long time to get paperwork done after you've been offered a job (conditionally) before you get a final. A lot of people on here seem to stress and worry a lot about little things (so I've observed). I've heard people ask questions about panel interviews and what to expect...PT test..and what to expect. If you can just be professional in the interview..who cares if you know what to expect. If you're stressing over the PT test. Do your best. . For those that just applied, you should be glad that things are apparently moving really fast now compared to the old announcement, and actually the whole government. My first gov job, I put an OF612 out there, waited over 5 months to get a rating in the mail...then finally got the interviews..then a conditional offer..then physical..then SF-86..then final offer. Total of over 9 months.
It's the normal deal in the federal government

Up_On_Base
05-02-2008, 12:40 PM
Just got my E-qip email and will need a few days to fill out all that info.

This is the fasted process I have ever witnessed for the Feds. As previous posters mentioned, submit your paperwork and forget about it until they contact you for more info.

My UD process was 2.5 years...that was a mess.

bluecollar$
05-02-2008, 01:00 PM
I just got my tenetive selection and equip request as well. Via email. This process is light years ahead of the last annoc.

Bama Boy
05-02-2008, 01:44 PM
Since medical is no longer done until after you get "The Call", how many people are finshed with everything and just waiting?
Here is the last list that went around with me now added.

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy

bluecollar$
05-02-2008, 02:04 PM
Hey bama when you did your BI for the last anoc. it was done thru avue correct? I swear I completed it on there and would like to access it for this equip but I can't find it. And for some reason my dumb***** didn't print or keep a copy:(

Bama Boy
05-02-2008, 02:16 PM
That's correct. It used to be on the AVUE main menu page under the Search For Jobs link but I just checked and it is no longer there. But if you go into Jobs I have Applied For and click on the old annoucement, you will see a link for it in the upper left side under Jobs I have Applied For. I just printed mine off and entered all of that data in eQip. Good luck.

FCAP_2008
05-02-2008, 02:34 PM
You can add me to the list all done.

Md094
05-02-2008, 03:01 PM
You can add me also.

Bama Boy
05-02-2008, 03:12 PM
Let's see if we can get 100

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094

luv2spind
05-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Let's see if we can get 100

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094

Whats going on everyone? still not alot of movement with hires but hopefully soon...........lets pray for a EOD. but we have to count who has received a tentative offer?

Tac
05-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Bama-
Count me in!

DEENIKE
05-02-2008, 05:32 PM
You can add me to the list as well this is round two of completion.
Also made it to the review board the last time around, looking for better results this time around.

Bear1005
05-02-2008, 05:52 PM
Add me to the list. Hurry up and wait, is what comes to mind. Did everything on 4-24-08 and 4-25-08 in Orlando.

blueshield22
05-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Since medical is no longer done until after you get "The Call", how many people are finshed with everything and just waiting?
Here is the last list that went around with me now added.

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy

Add me to that list guys and ggod luck to all of you!!!!

Nola Boy
05-02-2008, 06:50 PM
Greetings all! Been reading for a couple of months now and like most of you just trying not to worry myself to death. Has anyone from the new announcement only had any progress out of the Houston FO? FYI my timeline is as follows:

Applied - Mar 08
Phone Interview - Apr 08
COE - Apr 08

luv2spind
05-02-2008, 07:00 PM
Ok Guys Just Got The Call I Wish Everyone Good Luck In The Process And I Will Def Keep In Touch And Tell Any Info I Can.......



Going To Newark

firecop_22
05-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Ok Guys Just Got The Call I Wish Everyone Good Luck In The Process And I Will Def Keep In Touch And Tell Any Info I Can.......



Going To Newark


Congratulations!! Did you apply out of the Orlando office?

Steve03xx
05-02-2008, 07:52 PM
luv2spind,

That's awesome. Congratulations!!!!

GuyinCali
05-02-2008, 08:08 PM
Let's see if we can get 100

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094

Add me to the list tooooo...

Here is my activity:
7/06 First applied
7/06 Conditional Offer of Employment
7/31/06 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
9/06 Email received that “We regret to inform you that :confused:.”
9/06 Reapplied
9/06 Conditional Offer of Employment:
5/07 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
1/08 Reapplied on new announcement (FAMS-FLD-08-0045)
3/03 Physical & UA Test
3/12/08 Background Completed eQIP old job announcement.
3/13/08 Completed fingerprints
3/18/08 Contacted by HQ, fax info from my DD214
3/24/08 Completed PTA and informal meeting with the FO SAC
4/4/08 Completed Phone Interview with FO, for new announcement
4/8/08 Received Conditional Offer of Employment
4/23/08 Completed Panel Interview, 2 test, PTA and SAC Interview at FO.

Praying on EOD...

GuyinCali
05-02-2008, 08:10 PM
Ok Guys Just Got The Call I Wish Everyone Good Luck In The Process And I Will Def Keep In Touch And Tell Any Info I Can.......



Going To Newark

What is your EOD, did you get told when you would go to Phase 1?

Statetriple
05-02-2008, 08:25 PM
Well I have finished all up the E-quip invite I guess if get that then I will be on the list also....

blueshield22
05-02-2008, 08:27 PM
Ok Guys Just Got The Call I Wish Everyone Good Luck In The Process And I Will Def Keep In Touch And Tell Any Info I Can.......



Going To Newark

Awesome man good luck!!! When is your EOD and academy date????

VCSOMotor91
05-02-2008, 09:30 PM
Add me to the list. Hurry up and wait, is what comes to mind. Did everything on 4-24-08 and 4-25-08 in Orlando.


Hey I must have just missed you at the Orlando FO. I did mine on the 21st and today I just got the eQIP E-MAIL.

Kappa Cop
05-02-2008, 09:36 PM
I finally got the call today, funny thing is, I had to listen to it on voicemail. (I hate working deep nights). I will find out everything on Monday and let you guys know.

GuyinCali
05-02-2008, 10:17 PM
I finally got the call today, funny thing is, I had to listen to it on voicemail. (I hate working deep nights). I will find out everything on Monday and let you guys know.

So what did the call say, do you know your duty station, and EOD, or training date?

Praying for a Call for EOD...

Bama Boy
05-02-2008, 10:17 PM
I would like to say a big Congratulations to Kappa Cop and luv2spind. Your wait is finally over. Hopefully more calls will go out next week and we can end the wait for a few more on this list.

1.luvspind:D
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop:D
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094
17.Tac
18.DEENIKE
19.Bear1005
20.blueshield22
21.GuyinCali

Up_On_Base
05-02-2008, 10:17 PM
Ok Guys Just Got The Call I Wish Everyone Good Luck In The Process And I Will Def Keep In Touch And Tell Any Info I Can.......



Going To Newark

It's a very cool office, everyone I meet was awesome.

Have fun at FLETC in NM...long hot summer but not as bad as GA...that place was brutal in the summer.

Lazer
05-02-2008, 10:49 PM
Lazer also


You can add me also.

Lazer
05-02-2008, 10:53 PM
I would like to say a big Congratulations to Kappa Cop and luv2spind. Your wait is finally over. Hopefully more calls will go out next week and we can end the wait for a few more on this list.

1.luvspind:D
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop:D
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094
17.Tac
18.DEENIKE
19.Bear1005
20.blueshield22
21.GuyinCali
22. Lazer

Bear1005
05-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Hey I must have just missed you at the Orlando FO. I did mine on the 21st and today I just got the eQIP E-MAIL.
What day did you do your PT on? I did mine on Friday. I am still waiting, Steve03xx was there to, I hope we all get those calls!!

Lucky 317
05-02-2008, 11:50 PM
anyone else on here tryin to get hired for the Atlanta office? Just curious to see if anyone is in the process with me...

Lazer
05-03-2008, 12:53 AM
What is this E-Quip e-mail I see people talking about....


anyone else on here tryin to get hired for the Atlanta office? Just curious to see if anyone is in the process with me...

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 01:56 AM
Sorry about not responding right away, Got the call exactly 6:40pm while i was at work, to be overwhelmed that I was just talking about why I have not received my call and then a unknown number called and it was it......... I will find out more on Monday. They have to get a release date from my work so the transfer can go through with out a brake in the service. I was told to report on May 25th in the Newark field office in which i was told that it it ran very good and the guys are great , plus one of my friend just got hired on too last month from my home town in which makes things alot better. To all those that are waiting it will come just dont let it get you down it just takes time to do all the paper work and to process you so you get that EOD,,,,,,trust me i thought it would never happen.....but it did now Im nervous and my life begins here,,,,,,,,......Take care to all and give it all you got...........

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Thanks To All Of You For The Congrats Hopefully We Will Meet Soon Up In The Air....................

Anybody Going To Newark?

horse
05-03-2008, 02:43 AM
dont know,but a few are going to NYC for sure

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 03:11 AM
dont know,but a few are going to NYC for sure

TRUE,,,,,I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SHARE A HOTEL ROOM FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE YOU GO TO FLETC

gpan202
05-03-2008, 05:52 AM
Sooooooo...I guess that blows the theroy that they aren't hiring off the old list...this is good news

DEENIKE
05-03-2008, 09:42 AM
I believe from everything I read on here it's not that they are not doing any more hireing off the old announcement they are simply not sending any more to the review boad so if you did not make it to the review board before May 1 then that is it for you.. Who really knows unless you are a sac or asac...

Up_On_Base
05-03-2008, 10:09 AM
OK...good to see some nice movement and the calls going out.

From the time you submit fingerprints and E-qip about how long to "the call"?

Also - At what point did OPM start knocking on doors? During my BI for USSS some of my people got a little freaked when the agents started asking questions, actually it was funny getting calls from everyone "Dude what is going on, some guy from the USSS just showed up here asking questions".

FCAP_2008
05-03-2008, 12:35 PM
Congrats on thoose that have got hired. Well I got the

Dear FAM Applicant:

You have been tentiatively selected for a position with Federal Air Marshal Services.
Then it stated that I needed to complete the SF86 within 5 days.

on 4/8/08 so hopefully im right behind you guys.

FCAP_2008
05-03-2008, 12:44 PM
Hey Luv2spind did you have Newark on your list of 5 or did they just pick it for you.

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 12:48 PM
From the time I submitted e-qip it was 6 weeks, but I received the letter march 11th but had trouble viewing it because of the attachments until they updated the system. I was cleaning my archives folder and there it was along with the tentative offer,,,,,,lmao I submitted it about the 5th of April crying every day "WHY HAVENT I GOT MY CALL". I think my friends up here in Vermont were going to kill me......lol.... For the BI I think they honored my clearence from the job I am at now so evrybody is different the way they process,,,,I think it depends on what you look like to them.........here you lived,,,your name,,,,,what jobs you had in the past and maybe gender,,,,,who knows... Maybe one day ill be at that level and all the answers will be answered from twenty years ago.......lol

D

AV8TOR
05-03-2008, 12:50 PM
Add me to the list. Completed the old announcment (entire process) and the new announcement. Congrats to those who got the call and good luck to everyone.

#23 AV8TOR

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Man I highlighted everything,,,just wanted to be an agent, did not mind going anywhere,, but some of you have kids and the family and your roots are there so I understand......I dont have roots or a family of my own but my parents and siblings are in Florida,,hopefully ill be there soon

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 12:52 PM
Ill Tell You This Though If You Made It This Far There Is No Reason Why You Should Not Be The Next Member Of The Mile High Club,,,,,lol

FCAP_2008
05-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Mile High Club oh yeah what a perk lol. It only lets you pick 5 places on the application so I dont know what you mean by you highlighted everywhere. I would go anywhere too.

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 02:05 PM
Mile High Club oh yeah what a perk lol. It only lets you pick 5 places on the application so I dont know what you mean by you highlighted everywhere. I would go anywhere too.

The old announcement let you highlight them all when you pick your preference...........i guess they are not letting you do it now?

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 02:05 PM
it named every state

blueshield22
05-03-2008, 03:55 PM
I believe from everything I read on here it's not that they are not doing any more hireing off the old announcement they are simply not sending any more to the review boad so if you did not make it to the review board before May 1 then that is it for you.. Who really knows unless you are a sac or asac...

You are saying that they are not sending anymore from the old announcement to the review board right????? Cause I just got a call from DC telling me he needed to talk to my Internal Affairs so that my packet could be sent up to the review board ASAP and I am from the new announcement. Anyways to all, I was from the new announcement and it let me highlight everything as to where I wanted to go and I did. Also there is a July class as well.

FCAP_2008
05-03-2008, 05:14 PM
Maybe I just didnt see the highlight portion oh well.

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 05:55 PM
click on one location and then leave it clicked dont let go and grag the blue highlight all the way down the list

Navalaircrewman
05-03-2008, 05:56 PM
yes there is a June and July class.. I have been given both dates. Obviously cause my current military status in the beautiful Middle East!!!! If I make it back in time for the June class, I'll have just 4 days before reporting to class..otherwise it'll be July. It also depends on my release from my agency too

bluecollar$
05-03-2008, 05:57 PM
You are saying that they are not sending anymore from the old announcement to the review board right????? Cause I just got a call from DC telling me he needed to talk to my Internal Affairs so that my packet could be sent up to the review board ASAP and I am from the new announcement. Anyways to all, I was from the new announcement and it let me highlight everything as to where I wanted to go and I did. Also there is a July class as well.

Did you do your BI paper work yet? If so when.I just got the bi/fingerprint email fri. I'm hoping that means good news......

DEENIKE
05-03-2008, 06:05 PM
You are saying that they are not sending anymore from the old announcement to the review board right????? Cause I just got a call from DC telling me he needed to talk to my Internal Affairs so that my packet could be sent up to the review board ASAP and I am from the new announcement. Anyways to all, I was from the new announcement and it let me highlight everything as to where I wanted to go and I did. Also there is a July class as well.

Yes sir that is correct! From what I see it sounds like the old annoucement is done going to the review board and they will be working off the new annoucement for the review board. Everybody please keep in mind I am a civilian and who really knows everything is hear say and nothing solid. This is based purely on review of this thread after reading every day several times a day for several months.

blueshield22
05-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Did you do your BI paper work yet? If so when.I just got the bi/fingerprint email fri. I'm hoping that means good news......

Yes I did the BI but having that done does not effect your final offer of an EODor away even though I would do it as soon as possible. It does not have an effect of if they give you an EOD due to the fact that TSA will run a quick backround from your fingerprints and personal info in your app and get you temporarily cleared until your entire SSBI can be done while you are in training. I talked to the security lady listed on the email and she said you can still get the EOD and that if you were sent one of the new emails that is a "very good" sign for you within the hiring process because they had asked for a new list from FAMS of the people they want most so that they can process them. Now she didint say how many were on that list but I do know a few guys who have done everything and not still gotten that BI email :( !!!!

Rolla
05-03-2008, 07:32 PM
blueshield,

sorry to get back so late i was "out of town", im not sure on the amount of classes this year but if i was a betting man id say june, july, august, then a break for the end of the fiscal end then start again in october, november. there can also be multiple going at once, what i mean is every two weeks or so depending on the needs and funding.

VCSOMotor91
05-03-2008, 08:38 PM
What day did you do your PT on? I did mine on Friday. I am still waiting, Steve03xx was there to, I hope we all get those calls!!

Myself and Firecop22 did it on April 21st. I got an e-mail for the e-QIP two days ago and still gathering info.

blueshield22
05-03-2008, 09:05 PM
blueshield,

sorry to get back so late i was "out of town", im not sure on the amount of classes this year but if i was a betting man id say june, july, august, then a break for the end of the fiscal end then start again in october, november. there can also be multiple going at once, what i mean is every two weeks or so depending on the needs and funding.

Cool! Well I hope so. We have a lot of good people on this forum and it is my hope we all get the "Call"! Thanks

luv2spind
05-03-2008, 09:51 PM
I think anybody who has gotten the tentative offer will be hired in due time or maybe not if there background has something to hide. My opinion

Lucky 317
05-04-2008, 01:41 AM
Congrats luv2spind... Enjoy New Jersey.

luv2spind
05-04-2008, 02:18 AM
Congrats luv2spind... Enjoy New Jersey.

THANKS MAN LONG TIME WAITING,,,,LOL

Lucky 317
05-04-2008, 02:21 AM
THANKS MAN LONG TIME WAITING,,,,LOL

And my waiting game has only just begun... ha ha ha

VCSOMotor91
05-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Just finished the e-QIP and all of the supplemental app's that goes with it. What a pain gathering info from 10 years ago. Hopefully they dont hit us with any more 45 page app's. So now I need to get my live scan fingerprints done tommorow. I cant imagine the scan taking too long. Im guessing 5 to 10 minutes unless they throw anything else at us. Can anyone advise?

Bama Boy
05-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Just finished the e-QIP and all of the supplemental app's that goes with it. What a pain gathering info from 10 years ago. Hopefully they dont hit us with any more 45 page app's. So now I need to get my live scan fingerprints done tommorow. I cant imagine the scan taking too long. Im guessing 5 to 10 minutes unless they throw anything else at us. Can anyone advise?

It was the quickest part of the process. Mine took less than 10 minutes.

Lucky 317
05-04-2008, 10:12 PM
I just picked up all my background info from when I applied to my current PD, so at least I wont have to "research" all my info from 10+ years, just copy it all down... If I even make it that far in the process.

Still waiting in the long line....

Tachibana
05-05-2008, 03:41 PM
June 07 1st online app
Jan 08 reapplied
April 08 Phone Interview
May 08 COE

shawnali
05-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Looks like there moving on

March 08 applied
April 08 Phone Interview
May 08 COE

GuyinCali
05-05-2008, 05:10 PM
From the time I submitted e-qip it was 6 weeks, but I received the letter march 11th but had trouble viewing it because of the attachments until they updated the system. I was cleaning my archives folder and there it was along with the tentative offer,,,,,,lmao I submitted it about the 5th of April crying every day "WHY HAVENT I GOT MY CALL". I think my friends up here in Vermont were going to kill me......lol.... For the BI I think they honored my clearence from the job I am at now so evrybody is different the way they process,,,,I think it depends on what you look like to them.........here you lived,,,your name,,,,,what jobs you had in the past and maybe gender,,,,,who knows... Maybe one day ill be at that level and all the answers will be answered from twenty years ago.......lol

D


Congrats!!! On your EOD...
I am "Praying for the "CALL" too. I completed my eQIP also on March 11, I remember I had to call cause I could not log on, then I completed it that night. Hoping my packet is on top for the calls to go out for EOD's....

Praying for an EOD...

Patrio72
05-05-2008, 05:24 PM
Who sends the email regarding the fingerprints and eQIP? Does it come from the FO you are processing out of or does it come from Avue?

Also, what happens to those who have a BI sitting on Avue already from the old announcement?

Thanks!

Patriot72

GuyinCali
05-05-2008, 05:38 PM
Who sends the email regarding the fingerprints and eQIP? Does it come from the FO you are processing out of or does it come from Avue?

Also, what happens to those who have a BI sitting on Avue already from the old announcement?

Thanks!

Patriot72

I got in all on one email from Avue. It had attachments for your BI and fingerprints to have completed at a TSA Office. Good Luck to all.

Praying on an EOD...

VCSOMotor91
05-05-2008, 05:41 PM
The E-Mail comes from a person with do not delete in the subject section. The rumor that I heard is that they are getting away from AVUE. This is an unconfirmed rumor. THe e-QIP website was much easier to navigate then the AVUE BI that I completed a few years ago.After I left the live scan today, I got a call from the infamous "703". I spoke a subject that identified his self as a supervisor with the FAMS. He requested that I send him Member 4 copy of my DD-214(military discharge papers with your discharge status on the bottom) and a signed release of information form. Being that Im a L.E.O. he needs to get a copy of my internal affairs file. Hopefully there is nothing in it.

Md094
05-05-2008, 05:55 PM
Is the e-QIP the short form you fill out with the COE, or is it something else?

Bearcat357
05-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Is the e-QIP the short form you fill out with the COE, or is it something else?

eQIP is the electronic version of the SF86.....which is the Questionnaire for National Security Positions.....aka your security background form so you can get a security clearance.....

You will get an "Invite" from the agency you are applying with....you log on from any computer.......input your info (it goes 10 years back so be prepared) and then submit it.........

It's pretty easy as long as you fill everything out properly (as it will kick it back) and have all the information that you need....

Md094
05-05-2008, 06:10 PM
Has anyone working off the new announcement received EODs who do not have Veteran's status? I'm just curious because it seems they are the first ones getting the offers because most are talking about their DD-214s and such. All of which makes sense because they all should have higher scores than most non-veterans, like me.

Thanks.

blueshield22
05-05-2008, 07:15 PM
The E-Mail comes from a person with do not delete in the subject section. The rumor that I heard is that they are getting away from AVUE. This is an unconfirmed rumor. THe e-QIP website was much easier to navigate then the AVUE BI that I completed a few years ago.After I left the live scan today, I got a call from the infamous "703". I spoke a subject that identified his self as a supervisor with the FAMS. He requested that I send him Member 4 copy of my DD-214(military discharge papers with your discharge status on the bottom) and a signed release of information form. Being that Im a L.E.O. he needs to get a copy of my internal affairs file. Hopefully there is nothing in it.

I did the same thing last week for my department. He called right back once I got it signed off and got the information he needed from IA. Hopefully this menas we are close!!!! Good Luck!

Rolla
05-05-2008, 07:21 PM
The E-Mail comes from a person with do not delete in the subject section. The rumor that I heard is that they are getting away from AVUE. This is an unconfirmed rumor. THe e-QIP website was much easier to navigate then the AVUE BI that I completed a few years ago.After I left the live scan today, I got a call from the infamous "703". I spoke a subject that identified his self as a supervisor with the FAMS. He requested that I send him Member 4 copy of my DD-214(military discharge papers with your discharge status on the bottom) and a signed release of information form. Being that Im a L.E.O. he needs to get a copy of my internal affairs file. Hopefully there is nothing in it.

AVUEs for the birds, we are trying to drop it because of all the issues its had.

KIDFIRE79
05-05-2008, 07:37 PM
The E-Mail comes from a person with do not delete in the subject section. The rumor that I heard is that they are getting away from AVUE. This is an unconfirmed rumor. THe e-QIP website was much easier to navigate then the AVUE BI that I completed a few years ago.After I left the live scan today, I got a call from the infamous "703". I spoke a subject that identified his self as a supervisor with the FAMS. He requested that I send him Member 4 copy of my DD-214(military discharge papers with your discharge status on the bottom) and a signed release of information form. Being that Im a L.E.O. he needs to get a copy of my internal affairs file. Hopefully there is nothing in it.

Hmmm..it appears you are not the only one. I also received a call from the infamous "703" as well. Despite the fact that I have yet to submit my e-Qip, he requested that I fax all my awards, certifications, SF 50 and page 10 of my SF86.

I just found that to be unusual............:confused:

Hopefully it's a good sign, Good luck

blueshield22
05-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Just a quick question to all of us out there who are done and waiting. I like many of the veterans from OIF/OEF have a VA rating (20%) for wear and tear and past injuries. Now that they are not requiring the physical anymore prior to EOD does that really matter. I would hope that it would not seeing that I was cleared to be police the last two years and I did great on the PTA but I thought I would pose the question???? How many of you all are claiming 10 pt VA like me???

Rolla
05-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Just a quick question to all of us out there who are done and waiting. I like many of the veterans from OIF/OEF have a VA rating (20%) for wear and tear and past injuries. Now that they are not requiring the physical anymore prior to EOD does that really matter. I would hope that it would not seeing that I was cleared to be police the last two years and I did great on the PTA but I thought I would pose the question???? How many of you all are claiming 10 pt VA like me???

The 10 pt is going to help not hurt, as long as you did well on the PTA it shows them that you have the strength needed and are in good shape. You will be fine, trust me.


It just must be known that being selected is a crap shoot, there are thousands of packets on the hiring managers desk right now, I know that for fact. You will be selected based on the the recommendation of the panel, your background which can range from former LE, military, or just college. All 3, or 2 of the 3. Its just really weird and I have no idea how they do it.

FCAP_2008
05-05-2008, 08:53 PM
So a Non Veteran has just as good of a shot then. It seems like most guys are Veterans that get hired.

Statetriple
05-05-2008, 08:55 PM
AVUE HAHAHA

I received my COE almost 1 month ago and the second that I accepted I emailed AVUE with a Question and 1 Month to the Day I received an answer!!!!!

Md094
05-05-2008, 09:00 PM
I am debating if I should make a quick call in the next week or two to check on my application. I would hope it would show I'm still interested, but I do not want to sound too eager and draw undue attention to myself. I have completed everything up to the full BI, fingerprints, and EOD.

I realize patience is usually the best approach, but it is difficult to hold still when so many people are getting the nod.

Any suggestions???

blueshield22
05-05-2008, 09:10 PM
So a Non Veteran has just as good of a shot then. It seems like most guys are Veterans that get hired.

Really the only thing that veterans status does is give you the nod over someone who has the same quals that you do. Other than that if you are more qualified then you are more qualified.

Bama Boy
05-05-2008, 09:13 PM
The list continues to grow. Who will be next?

1.luvspind:D
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop:D
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094
17.Tac
18.DEENIKE
19.Bear1005
20.blueshield22
21.GuyinCali
22.Lazer
23.AV8TOR
24.VCSOMotor91

Bama Boy
05-05-2008, 09:22 PM
Who sends the email regarding the fingerprints and eQIP? Does it come from the FO you are processing out of or does it come from Avue?

Also, what happens to those who have a BI sitting on Avue already from the old announcement?

Thanks!

Patriot72
I got the from someone in TSA personnel security. I actually met the lady last week ans she said that the email goes out through the avue system. However the email showed up as from john.doe@dhs.gov

jimjimjim
05-05-2008, 09:23 PM
I am debating if I should make a quick call in the next week or two to check on my application. I would hope it would show I'm still interested, but I do not want to sound too eager and draw undue attention to myself. I have completed everything up to the full BI, fingerprints, and EOD.

I realize patience is usually the best approach, but it is difficult to hold still when so many people are getting the nod.

Any suggestions???


I would recommend it. I called last week to check on mine.

VCSOMotor91
05-05-2008, 10:23 PM
I did the same thing last week for my department. He called right back once I got it signed off and got the information he needed from IA. Hopefully this menas we are close!!!! Good Luck!


How long was it till they contacted IA? My agency does not know that I am leaving and I really don't want it to be a surprise to them. Im gonna have to have a meeting with the Sheriff next week after Vacation. Hopefully I dont get black listed.

Tachibana
05-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Anyone have trouble with AVUE confirming their COE? I keep getting the "list your last action before receiving this notice" thing.

GuyinCali
05-05-2008, 10:46 PM
I would recommend it. I called last week to check on mine.

Who do you call? HR in DC or the FO? Can you share a telephone number to call?

blueshield22
05-05-2008, 10:49 PM
How long was it till they contacted IA? My agency does not know that I am leaving and I really don't want it to be a surprise to them. Im gonna have to have a meeting with the Sheriff next week after Vacation. Hopefully I dont get black listed.

I finished everything and a week later they called me and IA. I was told that it was the last piece of info that was needed prior to my packet going to the board/hiring manager. It was pretty quick. My department knows that I may leave but they have been very good to me. They understand that I would be bettering my family and that everyone at my department came from somewhere else so they really cant say much!

Lazer
05-05-2008, 11:12 PM
I do not have MIL background but LE experience. I got the COE 2 weeks after applying, pretty quick. I got an e-mail today from "Joe Avue" (what avue's new e-mail address looks like now I guess) about the COE stating "I understand you may have had a problem accessing the online COE" and it gave me instructions on how to get to it. The funny thing is I already did it a month ago and now am in the final stages, weird man. I sent it out again for the heck of it.



Has anyone working off the new announcement received EODs who do not have Veteran's status? I'm just curious because it seems they are the first ones getting the offers because most are talking about their DD-214s and such. All of which makes sense because they all should have higher scores than most non-veterans, like me.

Thanks.

GuyinCali
05-05-2008, 11:34 PM
I do not have MIL background but LE experience. I got the COE 2 weeks after applying, pretty quick. I got an e-mail today from "Joe Avue" (what avue's new e-mail address looks like now I guess) about the COE stating "I understand you may have had a problem accessing the online COE" and it gave me instructions on how to get to it. The funny thing is I already did it a month ago and now am in the final stages, weird man. I sent it out again for the heck of it.

Lazer, are you currently pending under the old announcement too?


Praying for the "703" call for an EOD...

Navalaircrewman
05-05-2008, 11:39 PM
Just a quick question to all of us out there who are done and waiting. I like many of the veterans from OIF/OEF have a VA rating (20%) for wear and tear and past injuries. Now that they are not requiring the physical anymore prior to EOD does that really matter. I would hope that it would not seeing that I was cleared to be police the last two years and I did great on the PTA but I thought I would pose the question???? How many of you all are claiming 10 pt VA like me???

After my physical, I had to fax them a copy of my VA rating paperwork before they would clear me. I have 10% service connected.

Lazer
05-06-2008, 02:46 AM
I reapplied under the new announcement and went through everything again. Just wiating for the E-QIP e-mail as it looks like they use that now for the background. After that the final decision will be made, we will see.



Lazer, are you currently pending under the old announcement too?


Praying for the "703" call for an EOD...

GWARDEN234
05-06-2008, 07:29 AM
Im done also with the process. I was told recently they are now grading and seperating out the must hire, hire and better luck next time from the new announcement which will take some time because of the amount of packets.

Statetriple
05-06-2008, 08:57 AM
I do not have MIL background but LE experience. I got the COE 2 weeks after applying, pretty quick. I got an e-mail today from "Joe Avue" (what avue's new e-mail address looks like now I guess) about the COE stating "I understand you may have had a problem accessing the online COE" and it gave me instructions on how to get to it. The funny thing is I already did it a month ago and now am in the final stages, weird man. I sent it out again for the heck of it.

I received the Exact E-mail also????


Waiting for E-Quip

firecop_22
05-06-2008, 10:10 AM
Anyone have trouble with AVUE confirming their COE? I keep getting the "list your last action before receiving this notice" thing.

VCSOMotor91 and I got an email yesterday from Joe Avue stating that we had to confirm the COE. I just resubmitted it. Hopefully it went through this time. Still waiting for the email to complete my BI.

Nola Boy
05-06-2008, 11:01 AM
Is anyone being processed out of the Houston FO?? If so... any progress??

FCAP_2008
05-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Hey Kappa Cop What FO did you get?

Md094
05-06-2008, 02:39 PM
VCSOMotor91 and I got an email yesterday from Joe Avue stating that we had to confirm the COE. I just resubmitted it. Hopefully it went through this time. Still waiting for the email to complete my BI.

Me too...:confused::eek:

Brianrx13
05-06-2008, 04:26 PM
Throw me on the list I just finished everything today.

Nola Boy
05-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Is there anyone out there who ONLY applied thru the new announcement complete everything yet?

litreofcola
05-06-2008, 07:26 PM
For those that have been picked up, how long was it after your packet was complete that you heard something?? Also, I hav enot received any call to check my IA file to me, but wouldn't they just call my PD for that? It is clean anyway, so I won't sweat that. but just looking for any type of timeline.

Up_On_Base
05-06-2008, 08:52 PM
For those that have been picked up, how long was it after your packet was complete that you heard something?? Also, I hav enot received any call to check my IA file to me, but wouldn't they just call my PD for that? It is clean anyway, so I won't sweat that. but just looking for any type of timeline.

I just submitted my e-qip file and had prints performed.

I was told my current employer will not be contacted yet. The info they can pull from the 86, references, and prints can lead them in the right direction.

On another topic -

Can any current FAMS give a breakdown of typical week/month travel schedule?

luv2spind
05-06-2008, 10:56 PM
My opinion not that it matters but sounds good based on experience is:

If you have recieved a Tentative Offer it is only in due time (Just be patient) that you will get a call so do not bite your nails off like i did,,,,lmao

D

Lucky 317
05-07-2008, 02:42 AM
I just received an email instructing me to re-submit my application as there was an error with the AVUE system reading my original application.

Guess I'm back to square ONE... :mad:

gonefishin
05-07-2008, 10:34 AM
On another topic -

Can any current FAMS give a breakdown of typical week/month travel schedule?

It can vary but usually fly 4-5 days with 2 off.

Up_On_Base
05-07-2008, 12:57 PM
It can vary but usually fly 4-5 days with 2 off.


Thanks...good info.

firecop_22
05-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Has any non military applicants (on the new hiring list) completed their BI or live scan? Just curious because VCSOMotor91 and I were neck and neck throughout the hiring process until about a week ago when he got an email to complete his background paperwork and live scan. Our LE history is pretty close, but he has military experience. I was wondering if that could be the reason that he is moving on in the process and I haven’t heard anything since the PT, video tests and drug test. I know everyone keeps saying don’t stress out about it and just wait and it will eventually come…but it’s easier said than done.

Up_On_Base
05-07-2008, 02:16 PM
Has any non military applicants (on the new hiring list) completed their BI or live scan? Just curious because VCSOMotor91 and I were neck and neck throughout the hiring process until about a week ago when he got an email to complete his background paperwork and live scan. Our LE history is pretty close, but he has military experience. I was wondering if that could be the reason that he is moving on in the process and I haven’t heard anything since the PT, video tests and drug test. I know everyone keeps saying don’t stress out about it and just wait and it will eventually come…but it’s easier said than done.

I don't have military and I completed the new process.

I am former Fed LE and current contractor w/ language skills so maybe that helped my cause.

Maybe you didn't pass the written/video based testing.

BPD Once
05-07-2008, 02:32 PM
I guess I can be added to the list. My packet is going in front of the hiring panel this week.

bluecollar$
05-07-2008, 02:44 PM
I guess I can be added to the list. My packet is going in front of the hiring panel this week.
BPD did you go through the phila. FO? Just wondering if I met you there.
How do you know about your packet?

jleclair
05-07-2008, 04:10 PM
Hello all, I haven't had much input lately since everyone else has moved beyond the point I'm at. I had my phone interview over a month ago and have called avue but have not heard anything back. Does anyone know of another route?

FCAP_2008
05-07-2008, 04:45 PM
How do you know your packet is going in front of them this week. They must have 1000 packets on there desk it would be hard to say when it is going in front of them :D

KIDFIRE79
05-07-2008, 05:02 PM
I don't have military and I completed the new process.

I am former Fed LE and current contractor w/ language skills so maybe that helped my cause.

Maybe you didn't pass the written/video based testing.

I was advised that the written/video based testing was only a pilot and that there was no pass/fail.

They are using it only as an assessment. I was given this information from a very credible source.


Good Luck

firecop_22
05-07-2008, 05:41 PM
I was advised that the written/video based testing was only a pilot and that there was no pass/fail.

They are using it only as an assessment. I was given this information from a very credible source.


Good Luck


That's what I heard also.

blueshield22
05-07-2008, 08:29 PM
CRICKET......CRICKET.....You know what that sound is....its the sound of silence next to my phone and its killing me!!!!

INTHEAIRCOP
05-07-2008, 08:44 PM
Sorry guys but I am back. I ahve been real busy and my lap top broke on me. I can only check the boards on my RDOs(days off). So it seems they are calling new hires from what I read here. My office is only get ten new hires. We were told a total of 400 new hires this year and I have no clue how many of that have alreay been hired.

Someone askes about my work week. Well some days I fly 5 days and then the next I will fly 4 days with the 5th day in the office to train. I work about 45-50 hours a week and that does not include any delays and if you saw CNN today, the delays are everyday. Delays suck becasue we do not get paid for that, we are salary paid. No overtime! I have been flying overseas a bunch lately and loving it! Lots of perdiem to earn as long as you dont spend all of it getting drunk.

If you forgot I have been on for 6 1/2 years now. I will probably be here forever due to that fact I have to many kids and need the money. Well ggod luck guys and how come no girls on this forum. We have no women in our office, maybe 1 percent.

blueshield22
05-07-2008, 09:05 PM
Sorry guys but I am back. I ahve been real busy and my lap top broke on me. I can only check the boards on my RDOs(days off). So it seems they are calling new hires from what I read here. My office is only get ten new hires. We were told a total of 400 new hires this year and I have no clue how many of that have alreay been hired.

Someone askes about my work week. Well some days I fly 5 days and then the next I will fly 4 days with the 5th day in the office to train. I work about 45-50 hours a week and that does not include any delays and if you saw CNN today, the delays are everyday. Delays suck becasue we do not get paid for that, we are salary paid. No overtime! I have been flying overseas a bunch lately and loving it! Lots of perdiem to earn as long as you dont spend all of it getting drunk.

If you forgot I have been on for 6 1/2 years now. I will probably be here forever due to that fact I have to many kids and need the money. Well ggod luck guys and how come no girls on this forum. We have no women in our office, maybe 1 percent.

Which office are you out of again?

Up_On_Base
05-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Sorry guys but I am back. I ahve been real busy and my lap top broke on me. .

Welcome back...looks like this thread you started will be 4000 posts soon...not bad.

Is there is a set schedule for FAMS? M-F for senior FAMS? etc...

I know during my UD days you didn't get a piece of the weekend until 3rd year depending on branch.

Also - Is there Sunday premium pay? That was the best part of working the weekend.

Statetriple
05-07-2008, 11:30 PM
Well I Am Now Finishing Up E-quip And Prints Will Be Done By Friday
So I Quess You Can Add Me To The List.

FutureLE
05-08-2008, 12:49 AM
Anyone have any info about hiring or general info for the Atlanta office? I would guess there is info in the thread, but I really dont have the time to scan 160 pages..lol

Navalaircrewman
05-08-2008, 02:18 AM
Well, as some here know...FAMS wanted me to start next week on the 11th, which got pushed back until the 25th. Due to the military conflicting during this..and my agency not giving me a release yet, I agreed to start June 22! I'm looking forward to it. I'm glad it all has worked out

USVET
05-08-2008, 08:25 AM
Congrats brother! I hope you don't go crazy from the commute to SFO. No news on this end. Still waiting for that damn phone to ring!

Bama Boy
05-08-2008, 08:55 AM
The silence is driving me crazy. Maybe it's just the quit before the calls starts going. Well, that's what I keep telling myself.

1.luvspind:D
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop:D
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094
17.Tac
18.DEENIKE
19.Bear1005
20.blueshield22
21.GuyinCali
22.Lazer
23.AV8TOR
24.VCSOMotor91
25.Navalaircrewman:D
26.Brianrx13
27.GWARDEN234
28.BPD Once
29.Statetriple

Bama Boy
05-08-2008, 09:00 AM
That's what I heard also.

I was advised that the written/video based testing was only a pilot and that there was no pass/fail.

They are using it only as an assessment. I was given this information from a very credible source.


Good Luck

Same here. As long as you passed the panel and did not score crappy on the PTA, you should be good to go.

gonefishin
05-08-2008, 10:21 AM
Welcome back...looks like this thread you started will be 4000 posts soon...not bad.

Is there is a set schedule for FAMS? M-F for senior FAMS? etc...

I know during my UD days you didn't get a piece of the weekend until 3rd year depending on branch.

Also - Is there Sunday premium pay? That was the best part of working the weekend.

It depends office to office but I get weekends off just about every other month....so there are no set schedules and yes, we do get Sunday premium pay.

INTHEAIRCOP
05-08-2008, 01:40 PM
Which office are you out of again?

I am in one of the 2 Florida offices.
I have weekends off about 6 months out of the year but I would rather work weekends because of traffic to the airport.

Good luck guys

firecop_22
05-08-2008, 03:01 PM
Has any non military applicants (on the new hiring list) completed their BI or live scan? Just curious because VCSOMotor91 and I were neck and neck throughout the hiring process until about a week ago when he got an email to complete his background paperwork and live scan. Our LE history is pretty close, but he has military experience. I was wondering if that could be the reason that he is moving on in the process and I haven’t heard anything since the PT, video tests and drug test. I know everyone keeps saying don’t stress out about it and just wait and it will eventually come…but it’s easier said than done.

OK I can stop stressing out now...I got the BI email.

KIDFIRE79
05-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Same here. As long as you passed the panel and did not score crappy on the PTA, you should be good to go.

I hope your right, because I am starting to get anxious. I was advised by the board that my panel went very well. I scored an excellent on all categories for my PTA and there is no way I could of failed that test :p

Hopefully we hear something soon, Good luck :D

KIDFIRE79
05-08-2008, 04:23 PM
OK I can stop stressing out now...I got the BI email.

No BI e-mail yet for me, so I am still stressing................:(:mad:

03usmc51
05-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Hi, everyone I have been reading this forum a while and found a lot of the information very helpful. I have a couple questions:
1) How long does the hiring process usually take?
2) If you are a combat veteran and still in the military can you still claim your preference points on the application?
3) How long is the total training for FLETC? And does anyone know what kind of training it consists of?
4) How long does the BI usually take to complete?
5) Is a college degree necessary to be hired with the federal air marshals service?

I will be getting my phone interview this Tuesday and was wondering if anyone could give me any advise and what kind of questions are asked on the interview. I applied to the New York FO. Any further information would be greatly appreciated thanks to all and good luck to everyone applying

Up_On_Base
05-08-2008, 05:28 PM
You can add me to the list, I completed everything also...now the waiting game.

I just hope I can skip the first 7 weeks of training and only do phase II. My stomach can't handle FLETC food again...atleast there are not fire ants in NM.

horse
05-08-2008, 06:13 PM
i wonder how you would earn any extra cash if there is no over time.Just by working sunday?....................anyone know

gonefishin
05-08-2008, 06:43 PM
Hi, everyone I have been reading this forum a while and found a lot of the information very helpful. I have a couple questions:

1)How long does the hiring process usually take?
It varies for everyone...there really isn't a good answer for this

2) If you are a combat veteran and still in the military can you still claim your preference points on the application?
I believe so but not exactly sure

3) How long is the total training for FLETC? And does anyone know what kind of training it consists of?
Total training is 15 weeks...7 at FLETC and 8 in Atlantic City. FLETC is basic law enforcement training and ACY is job specific training.

4) How long does the BI usually take to complete?
By the time you are done with training your BI is, for the most part, wrapped up. Getting adjudicated for your TS can take years though.

5) Is a college degree necessary to be hired with the federal air marshals service?
It helps but no...not nessasary....your military experience will help.

gonefishin
05-08-2008, 06:47 PM
i wonder how you would earn any extra cash if there is no over time.Just by working sunday?....................anyone know

You'll get some OT when doing international missions, plus you get night differential and per diem any time you spend the night away from home. The per diem can add up to a lot of tax free money at the end of the year.

Bama Boy
05-08-2008, 07:22 PM
i wonder how you would earn any extra cash if there is no over time.Just by working sunday?....................anyone know

Most government employees are are paid an extra percentage for every hour worked on Sunday and between the hours of 1800 and 0600. It is usually like 15% for M-F and 20% for Sunday. My figures may be off. I do know that Sunday always pays more. Since I'm not a FAM, I'm not sure how the pay is for Sunday or non-standard working under LEAP.

Up_On_Base
05-08-2008, 07:43 PM
I know for UD we got %10 for mids and %25 Sunday premium.

It adds up quick.

Md094
05-08-2008, 08:25 PM
I know for UD we got %10 for mids and %25 Sunday premium.

It adds up quick.

Wow, that makes my current $0.25 evening shift and $0.50 midnight shift differential pretty miserable. :rolleyes:

Guess that is another reason to hope for this job! :)

Rolla
05-08-2008, 08:44 PM
The FAM night diff and Sunday premium pay doesn't seem like much but its crazy how quickly it adds up. The best way to make extra is praying you get a load of RONs or INTs for the month, beacuse a month of them and its like have 2 jobs.

Bama Boy
05-08-2008, 08:48 PM
There has to be more calls going out really soon. Someone has to fill up those other class seats with the 3 that already received calls.

1.luv2spind:D
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop:D
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79
14.Bama Boy
15.FCAP 2008
16.Md094
17.Tac
18.DEENIKE
19.Bear1005
20.blueshield22
21.GuyinCali
22.Lazer
23.AV8TOR
24.VCSOMotor91
25.Navalaircrewman:D
26.Brianrx13
27.GWARDEN234
28.BPD Once
29.Statetriple
30.Up On Base

03usmc51
05-08-2008, 10:36 PM
Gonefishn, I appreciate the answers to my questions. Is anyone else applying to the New York FO? Also does anyone know how much longer the FAMS are hiring, aswell as how many people they need? I ask this because when I read these forums I see that I sent in my application later then everyone else, and was wondering if anyone thought I would have a chance to get hired within the year, or would they just hold on to my information and wait until the next annoucment for me to go through the process? I do have my phone interview on tuesday. However most people on this forum are pretty much ready to get seated at FLETC. Any answers would be helpful and like I said earlier, good luck to all those who are deciding to risk thier lives for thier family and country.

Lucky 317
05-09-2008, 03:09 AM
Gonefishn, I appreciate the answers to my questions. Is anyone else applying to the New York FO? Also does anyone know how much longer the FAMS are hiring, aswell as how many people they need? I ask this because when I read these forums I see that I sent in my application later then everyone else, and was wondering if anyone thought I would have a chance to get hired within the year, or would they just hold on to my information and wait until the next annoucment for me to go through the process? I do have my phone interview on tuesday. However most people on this forum are pretty much ready to get seated at FLETC. Any answers would be helpful and like I said earlier, good luck to all those who are deciding to risk thier lives for thier family and country.

How long did it take to get your phone interview?

03usmc51
05-09-2008, 08:23 AM
It took me about a month and a half to get my phone interview scheduled. And I missed the phone call because I was in the field training the Dutch marines. when I got back I got the voicemail and they gave me a number and name to call back. As soon as I called that number the guy doesn't even tell me hello or nothing he just says the date and time that he had available for my phone interview lol.

gonefishin
05-09-2008, 10:01 AM
Gonefishn, I appreciate the answers to my questions. Is anyone else applying to the New York FO? Also does anyone know how much longer the FAMS are hiring, aswell as how many people they need? I ask this because when I read these forums I see that I sent in my application later then everyone else, and was wondering if anyone thought I would have a chance to get hired within the year, or would they just hold on to my information and wait until the next annoucment for me to go through the process? I do have my phone interview on tuesday. However most people on this forum are pretty much ready to get seated at FLETC. Any answers would be helpful and like I said earlier, good luck to all those who are deciding to risk thier lives for thier family and country.
I would assume that many applied to NYFO however its probably one of the better ones to have as a choice because it is considered a hard to fill office (much like any other Federal LE office in NYC) so there will always be vacancies.....as far as how many they are looking to hire....not sure. Stick with the process as messed up as it is....I wouldn't worry about where you are in the process...good luck on the phone interview.

futurefed21
05-09-2008, 11:41 AM
u picked the wrong office to apply to if youre looking for expediency lol...according to other reports on this thread the NYFO is backed up with flights etc. so they have no agents available to conduct interviews etc. for example i completed my phone interview, bi forms, livescan, but still waiting on interview...whereas most other offices do interviews & pts before livescan etc. anyway just hang in there & im sure theyll get to us soon...good luck!

shawnali
05-09-2008, 01:24 PM
I was wondering if there is an alternate way to see if you can start your e-qip without receiving and email. I ask this because I personally have had problems receiving emails from avue. I never received an email for my COE but found it when reviewing my app. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Semper Fi

Bama Boy
05-09-2008, 01:31 PM
I was wondering if there is an alternate way to see if you can start your e-qip without receiving and email. I ask this because I personally have had problems receiving emails from avue. I never received an email for my COE but found it when reviewing my app. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Semper Fi

Unfortunately the TSA security folks have to grant you access to go in and use the sytem.

shawnali
05-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Guess i'll just have to wait. lol
Thank's Bama Boy
good luck to you

FCAP_2008
05-09-2008, 02:19 PM
I am suprise there was no one hired this week off this forum. I was told that the panel meets once a week and would be hiring each week untill the classes were filled.

kizmit
05-09-2008, 02:54 PM
actually, i got "the call" on Monday. NYFO EOD June 8. there for a month then off to Artesia.
I was hired off the old announcement.