Air Marshal Job Open !

[luv2spind]

I sent in a bunch of faxed docs for the old process, maybe they still have those on file.



The next step i was told was that your packet goes in front of a hiring panel or selectee person and then you get a EOD,,,,,were almost there

[bombguy]

bomguy- are you are current Fed Leo?

No, I'm a former Explosive Ordnance Disposal tech. I did 10 years in the Air Force, just got out last October. 1 tour in Iraq, 2 in Saudi.

I'm currently a AF civilian contractor right now.

[Statetriple]

Well Still Moving Along

Feb 08 Application
March 08 Phone Interview
April 08 COE
April 08 Panel ETC
April 19th PTA
Then We shall SEE!!!!

[Statetriple]

Info for those out of DC

50 Slots with 150 Applicants that they are interested in.
Those chosen in the next few weeks will Start school late
summer.

[luv2spind]

Where Did You Hear That, It Sounds Good,,,,,hopefully

[luv2spind]

From Who In Dc I Mean

[Clevbrownies]

Hi all,

Aug. 06 COE
Mar. 07 Fingerprints
June 07 Panel/Drug test
Jan. 08 Told to re-apply
Feb. 08 Medical
Feb. 08 E-QIP BI paperwork, livescan
Mar. 08 PT/Drug test-the rest of the paperwork DD-214 transcripts ect.
EOD ?
Mar 08 Phone interview for New announment
Mar 08 COE #2


Thanks to everyone who has answered some of my questions, it good to know other people are in the same boat.

[luv2spind]

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies

lucky#10

[Drew23]

Sorry, forgot to mention that you can add me to the list, too.

[futurefed21]

Info for those out of DC

50 Slots with 150 Applicants that they are interested in.
Those chosen in the next few weeks will Start school late
summer.

any idea if those in the pool of 150 are only people who have passed everything and are awaiting hiring or are there people at all points in the process? (ie panel, PTA, etc.)

[Statetriple]

Alright Let see if I can Make this Make sense.


I did the Panel Yesterday. While there the Recruiter Stated Okay guys
we have been doing about 15 people a day for last week and this week
we have been losing several a day because they can't pass the Panel. In mine we lost 2 people they were escorted out of the building. The Agent told us all
that there are 50 slots to fly out of DC to start school in June or July and be flying by Oct. He Told us that there where going to be approx. 150 wanted Applicants at the end of this week for the 50 slots. Many of us have PTA Sat Morning so we will see!!


J

[Tachibana]

Just got a call to schedule Phone interview. good bday present.

[kamkze]

Alright Let see if I can Make this Make sense.


I did the Panel Yesterday. While there the Recruiter Stated Okay guys
we have been doing about 15 people a day for last week and this week
we have been losing several a day because they can't pass the Panel. In mine we lost 2 people they were escorted out of the building. The Agent told us all
that there are 50 slots to fly out of DC to start school in June or July and be flying by Oct. He Told us that there where going to be approx. 150 wanted Applicants at the end of this week for the 50 slots. Many of us have PTA Sat Morning so we will see!!


J


I believe the 50 slots he was talking about are from the old announcement, not the new.

[USVET]

Hey everybody,
New to the forum. I see a lot of people are from the east coast. Any word on the west coast hiring? I just submitted my application. 14 year military vet with no LE experience however I was a flight engineer for 8 years. Do you think that will help get me a positon, or is it better to have LE experience?

[luv2spind]

Sorry, forgot to mention that you can add me to the list, too.

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23

Lets try to fill that fifty.

[jimjimjim]

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23

Lets try to fill that fifty.

You may add me as well. :D

[robousmc]

Alright Let see if I can Make this Make sense.


I did the Panel Yesterday. While there the Recruiter Stated Okay guys
we have been doing about 15 people a day for last week and this week
we have been losing several a day because they can't pass the Panel. In mine we lost 2 people they were escorted out of the building. The Agent told us all
that there are 50 slots to fly out of DC to start school in June or July and be flying by Oct. He Told us that there where going to be approx. 150 wanted Applicants at the end of this week for the 50 slots. Many of us have PTA Sat Morning so we will see!!


J

any idea why they failed and had to be escorted out of the building?

[litreofcola]

As far as the 50 goes for DC, I don't think you have to process out of DC to get DC. So, those 50 could come from anywhere in the nation I would guess. When I was in Denver I was told that a lot of the guys who had been picked up recently where going to San Francisco. Does not matter where you test. Last info I heard was over 300 positions still to fill, and have been told that they will be picking up people from the old announcment now (not sure when calls are going out, but hey). Have also been told that at some point they will get rid of the old pool and go to the new pool only, so if you have not apply for both. I just received my conting. letter for new process today, and am complete with the old process.

[luv2spind]

1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim

We are moving on up!!

[KIDFIRE79]

[QUOTE=luv2spind;1192726]1.luvspind
2.kamkze
3.dtown101
4.gpan202
5.kappa cop
6.litreofcola
7.Seager
8.Rather Static
9.bombguy
10.clevbrownies
11.Drew23
12.jimjimjim
13.Kidfire79

You can add me on to make number 13

[bleedirish]

Panel Interview, Fingerprints, Logic/Situational Awareness Testing, PTA, Drug Testing all tomorrow up in Boston.

Recruiter told me they want to hire by July. Started my app in March.

[luv2spind]

Panel Interview, Fingerprints, Logic/Situational Awareness Testing, PTA, Drug Testing all tomorrow up in Boston.

Recruiter told me they want to hire by July. Started my app in March.

GOOD LUCK,, MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU,LOL

[warrior 76]

hello everybody,
I am a newbee too. Here is my timeline: application-feb 08
phone interview-march 08.
contigent offer letter- march08
pre-hire document submission-april08
now how long will it take for them to investigate and schedule a panel interview?

[warrior 76]

I am a former marine and now a police officer in nypd for 3yrs and 6 months.Is it good enough for them or they require something more? Oh well! let's see what happens, I have faith in god and if he wants me to work as fam it will happen. I did my part and now it's his will. Ooohrraa. oh by the way i don't like working for nypd. so many self-fish bastards, cowards, liars, shaky and shady guys. Nothing like para military.

[luv2spind]

I am a former marine and now a police officer in nypd for 3yrs and 6 months.Is it good enough for them or they require something more? Oh well! let's see what happens, I have faith in god and if he wants me to work as fam it will happen. I did my part and now it's his will. Ooohrraa. oh by the way i don't like working for nypd. so many self-fish bastards, cowards, liars, shaky and shady guys. Nothing like para military.

Welcome to the on going book of FAMS applicants

[bluecollar$]

Well I guess I'll post after lurking for a couple months. I like many others on here am former USMC. I applied under the old annoc. and that process seemed to stall.
I have since reapplied. Had the phone int.,COE,panel int and have the PTA next week. All this in a month and a half. I had a short "secondary" interview with #2 in command at the field office. He pretty much laid it out as luck and timing when and if you get hired. He said HQ does all the hiring they just put the packets together and ship'em. He seemed to think all the hiring was going to come out of the new anc. but he didn't know for sure. On a bright note one of the FAMs from my panel addressed me later in the break room and said I should be very happy with myself because I did excellent on my panel. Hopefully that helps.........

[Statetriple]

any idea why they failed and had to be escorted out of the building?

The SAC Stated if you fail the Panel you will be asked to Leave and Escorted out.

[Md094]

What I have sifted from these forums and my own experience it appears they are hiring 300-400 FAMs and hope to have them filled by the end of the fiscal year because of concerns of another hiring freeze. Each area headquarters gathers the packet information and sends it to Washington DC for review by the hiring panel. It appears they hope to start making job offers in the next couple of weeks to keep the ball rolling in hopes of having start dates towards the end of June beginning of July.

It does seem each headquarters did a few things different in the order of how they completed the process. For example, our group did not do fingerprints and our panel interviews were a different time than our PT and paper tests. One person described the PT tests as just wanting to make sure a person did not give up and would be there for the team. But, a separate person said they will have an impact on the final rankings because there are so many good candidates.

I think we are all now in the waiting game and hope we start receiving phone calls next week.

Good Luck!!!

[Squared Away]

Check out CNN front page article today

[Rolla]

bombguy- unless you are a FED LEO they won't consider your pay. But we are amongst the highest paid in the gov

[FCAP_2008]

Well I am all done with everything I think except for fingerprints which are next tuesday. So does anyone know if they are just hiring for the 13 places that were posted or are places like Texas and Ohio open too.

[Md094]

I was told Texas is not open due to many internal transfers.

[GuyinCali]

Hello everyone, here is the activity I have been thru, and still patiently waiting:

July 2006 First applied
July 19, 06 Conditional Offer of Employment
July 31, 2006 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
August 4, 2006 Attended a WFO Hiring in DC (Completed Medical, UA test and PTA) all at HQ
September 13, 06 Email received that “We regret to inform you that, at this phase of the assessment process, better qualified applicants are being considered for Federal Air Marshal vacancies.”
September 19, 06 Reapplied
September 19, 06 Conditional Offer of Employment:
May 7, 07 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
January 23, 08 Reapplied on new announcement (FAMS-FLD-08-0045)
March 3, 08 Physical & UA Test
March 12, 08 Background Completed SF86 online (FAMS-FLD-05-0002) old job announcement. Fax signed forms, COE, OF306 & Avue app. to Personal Security Officer
March 13, 08 Completed fingerprints
March 24, 08 Completed PTA and informal meeting with the FO SAC
March 18, 08 Contacted by HQ, fax info from my DD214
April 4, 08 Completed Phone Interview with LAFO, for new announcement
April 4, 08 Received email for new announcement to make appointment for an Assessment Date
April 8, 08 Received Conditional Offer of Employment
April 23, 08 I have my Assessment Date at 8:00am at the FO.

Praying for a phone call for EOD.

[Tachibana]

June 07 1st online app
Jan 08 reapplied
April 08 Phone Interview

[Navalaircrewman]

Well...I am new to this forum. I applied in June 2006, had Panel interview February, 2007...Physical in Feb, 2008..PFA and SAC interview in March, 2008. I faxed transcripts and military documents last month also. I was offered job last week for CA, to either start on April 27th or May 11. I am still deciding!!

[Navalaircrewman]

to USVET...FYI, I have very little law enforcement background, just one year as a collatoral duty in military. I am currently a Flight Engineer also. They like all military experience. It may have helped me also because I am already a federal employee and have been for 5 years...working at the FAA

[luv2spind]

Well...I am new to this forum. I applied in June 2006, had Panel interview February, 2007...Physical in Feb, 2008..PFA and SAC interview in March, 2008. I faxed transcripts and military documents last month also. I was offered job last week for CA, to either start on April 27th or May 11. I am still deciding!!



SOONER THE BETTER,,,,LOL

[Navalaircrewman]

my issue is that I'm about to hit the H band next month at the FAA and that I have to commute so far on my days off to go home from work at FAMS. When I applied, my house was easy to sell....now NOT SO GOOD (welcome to California). So I have to way the options. It would be a lateral move for me to FAMS though.

[VCSOMotor91]

Well I have my panel interview tommorrow morning. Sounds like the ball is in motion and it looks like alot of people are moving forward at a rapid pace. Headed to bed for a good nights sleep, I will advise if I move forward to the next level.

[luv2spind]

Well I have my panel interview tommorrow morning. Sounds like the ball is in motion and it looks like alot of people are moving forward at a rapid pace. Headed to bed for a good nights sleep, I will advise if I move forward to the next level.

GOOD LUCK,,,,YOU WILL MOVE ON,,,,,,,GOOD LUCK

[luv2spind]

my issue is that I'm about to hit the H band next month at the FAA and that I have to commute so far on my days off to go home from work at FAMS. When I applied, my house was easy to sell....now NOT SO GOOD (welcome to California). So I have to way the options. It would be a lateral move for me to FAMS though.



UNDERSTANDABLE BUT MAYBE THE +++++++++++++ OUT WAY THE ------------- AND IS IT YOUR DREAM?

[VCSOMotor91]

My partner worked there for 9 years. He was with the 5 2. I get under his skin by saying the fifty second. Good luck devil dog.

[VCSOMotor91]

My partner worked there for 9 years. He was with the 5 2. I get under his skin by saying the fifty second. Good luck devil dog.
__________________
hello everybody,
I am a newbee too. Here is my timeline: application-feb 08
phone interview-march 08.
contigent offer letter- march08
pre-hire document submission-april08
now how long will it take for them to investigate and schedule a panel interview?

[Navalaircrewman]

It definetely is a dream of mine. I have to seriously pray about this. I have a wife and 4 kids also. I am going TDY to the middle east next Wednesday until May 10..so I need to let them know before I leave. Including my boss. He ironically already new about it before I spoke with him because the HR's in the Government obviously talk to each other. So I'm leaving it in God's hands am trying to LISTEN to him.

Applied June 2006
Panel Interview/drug test Feb 2007
Physical Feb 2008
PFA/Drug Test/ SAC Interview March 2008
Transcripts and military documents and SF50's faxed March 2008
Job offer Last week

[luv2spind]

Well Good Luck...in Your Endevors......be Safe

[mi562]

Just read a news article that the number of Air Marshals on flights is so low that firearms and psych testing standards have been lowered. In fact, they are so desperate that they are going to use airport screeners. Isn't THAT a hoot???

[luv2spind]

Hopefully We All Will Be Able To Get In Quicker If It Is True,,,,,,lol

[bombguy]

bombguy- unless you are a FED LEO they won't consider your pay. But we are amongst the highest paid in the gov

Thank you for the answer. I kinda figured it was like that, but wasn't sure. Just waiting for that phone call!!!

[Rolla]

Thank you for the answer. I kinda figured it was like that, but wasn't sure. Just waiting for that phone call!!!

they will consider your background and education which would start you higher within the pay band depending on what you bring to the table

[Up_On_Base]

Just read a news article that the number of Air Marshals on flights is so low that firearms and psych testing standards have been lowered. In fact, they are so desperate that they are going to use airport screeners. Isn't THAT a hoot???

Calling BS on most of that article, it made is seem the FAMS are asking any screener if they want to join then handing over a Sig.

Just like any other agency the FAMS have issues but it's not that bad. Here is the problem, cops like to complain more than most and the media loves a juicy story. During my UD days I had to listen to people b*tch all shift and would tell anyone who would listen. Some of the most miserable people you would ever meet, I am sure many of these former FAMS fall into that catagory. Not saying they don't have legit gripes but it's only one side of the story.

[GuyinCali]

Navelaircrewman,

When you got the job offer, how do they notify you, via email or telephone call. Just asking since I have also completed everything on the old announcement.

Praying for a EOD...

[robousmc]

i don't know about that video on cnn. to me even if they did administrative internal transfers then they would still have to fill the gaps on one end or another. i'm sure if they were hurting as bad as that guy said...we all would be on flights instead of on this forum praying for process movement.

[Clevbrownies]

Well I am all done with everything I think except for fingerprints which are next tuesday. So does anyone know if they are just hiring for the 13 places that were posted or are places like Texas and Ohio open too.



I was told by the FAMS no opening in Ohio. Just the hot spots that were posted.

[Navalaircrewman]

Navelaircrewman,

When you got the job offer, how do they notify you, via email or telephone call. Just asking since I have also completed everything on the old announcement.

Praying for a EOD...

I received a phone call from Human Resources last Wednesday, followed by an email from them with an offer letter with the duty location and training dates.

[jimjimjim]

I received a phone call from Human Resources last Wednesday, followed by an email from them with an offer letter with the duty location and training dates.

What area code?

[GuyinCali]

I received a phone call from Human Resources last Wednesday, followed by an email from them with an offer letter with the duty location and training dates.


So you were offered the LAFO? I hope to get the call to report to that office, if so we should run into eachother.
Well take care on your TDY and good luck on your decision.

Praying for an EOD...

[Navalaircrewman]

What area code?

703

[Navalaircrewman]

So you were offered the LAFO? I hope to get the call to report to that office, is so we should run into eachother.
Well take care on you TDY and good luck on your decision.

Praying for an EOD...

I was offered both the LA office or the San Francisco field office. If I go to the job, it'll be out of the SF field office. The logistics of being 2 hours from airport is the only issue I have..because since applying, my house took a dive and I can't sell.

[Md094]

I was offered both the LA office or the San Francisco field office. If I go to the job, it'll be out of the SF field office. The logistics of being 2 hours from airport is the only issue I have..because since applying, my house took a dive and I can't sell.

Were they your only choices listed in your application, or did you apply else where?

[Patrio72]

I have my PTA and written exams at the end of this month. Should I show up in my work-out clothes and change into business casual after the PTA or vice versa?

Thanks for any input.
Patriot72

[Navalaircrewman]

Were they your only choices listed in your application, or did you apply else where?

I applied at several locations but indicated to them in the SAC interview that I couldn't leave CA...since I couldn't update the old app since it has closed

[VCSOMotor91]

Just finished my panel interview. They told me I passed and invited me back on Monday for the PTA and further tests. Is anyone else going to Orlando on Monday for the PTA?

[FCAP_2008]

Did they say if Orlando needed people.

[Md094]

I have my PTA and written exams at the end of this month. Should I show up in my work-out clothes and change into business casual after the PTA or vice versa?

Thanks for any input.
Patriot72

For my group we all showed up in our business attire, and then they had 1/2 of us change for PT test. After lunch we switched and did the classroom work in our business attire so I would show up in your dress clothes.

[jimjimjim]

For my group we all showed up in our business attire, and then they had 1/2 of us change for PT test. After lunch we switched and did the classroom work in our business attire so I would show up in your dress clothes.


Did you do it at Chicago?

[Rolla]

written test? man i didnt have to do that

[Steve03xx]

Just finished my panel interview. They told me I passed and invited me back on Monday for the PTA and further tests. Is anyone else going to Orlando on Monday for the PTA?

VCSOMotor91,

Congratulations!!!

I have my panel next Tuesday. I pray I get the same response you had today. If you have any advice for the panel, shoot me a PM. Quick question for you. Is their a formal way to address the panel? How do you address a FAM or FAM Supervisor properly is what I am asking?

[Rolla]

VCSOMotor91,

Congratulations!!!

I have my panel next Tuesday. I pray I get the same response you had today. If you have any advice for the panel, shoot me a PM. Quick question for you. Is their a formal way to address the panel? How do you address a FAM or FAM Supervisor properly is what I am asking?


Coming from a FAM, sir or ma'am as appropriate....

[Md094]

Did you do it at Chicago?

Yes.

[Up_On_Base]

Coming from a FAM, sir or ma'am as appropriate....

+1

I would recommend sir or ma'am to everyone you meet during the process (FAM, clerk, etc) because you never know who you are talking to...

Also when you enter the room for the panel, shake everyones hand, and then wait by your chair until you are told to sit.

[Up_On_Base]

+1

I would recommend sir or ma'am to everyone you meet during the process (FAM, clerk, etc) because you never know who you are talking to...

Also when you enter the room for the panel, shake everyones hand, and then wait by your chair until you are told to sit.

Or you can call them Dude or Hey You...FAMS love that...trust me!

[GuyinCali]

So do you all think they are still picking from the old announcement?
I completed my panel on May 07, Medical & UA, and PTA, and also met with the FO SAC, all in March. I have gotten a few calls from HQ for DD214 info, but nothing since March 27.

Praying for an EOD...

[VCSOMotor91]

VCSOMotor91,

Congratulations!!!

I have my panel next Tuesday. I pray I get the same response you had today. If you have any advice for the panel, shoot me a PM. Quick question for you. Is their a formal way to address the panel? How do you address a FAM or FAM Supervisor properly is what I am asking?

When you go they read you a long statement advising not to talk about or give out any information about the interview. The only advise that I can give is for you to be yourself. As others said on this forum, say. yes sir, no sir. It is a profesional interview with profesionals in that field. Good luck and let me know how you do. Does the xx in your name stand for 11 or 31?

[jimjimjim]

Yes.

Monday the 14th?

Brazil?

[kamkze]

So do you all think they are still picking from the old announcement?
I completed my panel on May 07, Medical & UA, and PTA, and also met with the FO SAC, all in March. I have gotten a few calls from HQ for DD214 info, but nothing since March 27.

Praying for an EOD...

I was told yesterday that they are still hiring off the old announcement, but not for much longer.

[Navalaircrewman]

So do you all think they are still picking from the old announcement?
I completed my panel on May 07, Medical & UA, and PTA, and also met with the FO SAC, all in March. I have gotten a few calls from HQ for DD214 info, but nothing since March 27.

Praying for an EOD...

Like I had said, I was offered a position last week off the old announcement. I received all my paperwork and the final offer letter today, whicj included all the required details for training.

[ny2k]

Like I had said, I was offered a position last week off the old announcement. I received all my paperwork and the final offer letter today, whicj included all the required details for training.


Guys,
Sorry for the depressing news.
I am one of applicants from the OLD announcement. It seems like this is the end of road for me. I got the Thanks but no Thanks Email from FAMS last night. I finished all the process on March 08 and I was just waiting to hear from the hiring panel’s decision.
I guess I got the **THE END** instead of the **THE CALL** :).
It was worth the Shot. I got to meet some pretty good people during the process which I hope I continue keep in contact with. Thanks everyone for keeping this post going. It sure kept me from going crazy during the process..

Good Luck Everyone!!

[Md094]

ny2k,

Sorry for the bad news, but good luck in your future endeavors.

[Love_Ulcer]

Guys,
Sorry for the depressing news.
I am one of applicants from the OLD announcement. It seems like this is the end of road for me. I got the Thanks but no Thanks Email from FAMS last night. I finished all the process on March 08 and I was just waiting to hear from the hiring panel’s decision.
I guess I got the **THE END** instead of the **THE CALL** :).
It was worth the Shot. I got to meet some pretty good people during the process which I hope I continue keep in contact with. Thanks everyone for keeping this post going. It sure kept me from going crazy during the process..

Good Luck Everyone!!

Don't give up! Getting a federal LE job is almost like playing the lottery.

[Statetriple]

PTA DONE TODAY!!!!

Not so HOT so we shall see how it goes. Will it we a nice Goodbye or a EOD Date.. Lets wait and see.

[FCAP_2008]

Did they say anything else about the 50 spots today to you. I didnt not put DC on my list do I still have a chance at the spots or no.

[Up_On_Base]

Had panel last week and scheduled for PTA/written/drug test soon. After that what is left?

I was told the process could be 3-10 months...afterall it is the FEDS.

[Rolla]

Did they say anything else about the 50 spots today to you. I didnt not put DC on my list do I still have a chance at the spots or no.

From what I have heard we will be hiring a lot more then 50 people this go around the fiscal years doesn't end for 5 more months. They are bringing people in for more offices then DC so yes you have a chance.

[monalisa301]

I have PTA scheduled for this week and im a bit nervous. i cannot do one pullup! any advice on how to train in one week? If you fail one section of the pta, does that disqualify you? Or can you make up for it in other areas? Thanks

[jonm0303]

I have PTA scheduled for this week and im a bit nervous. i cannot do one pullup! any advice on how to train in one week? If you fail one section of the pta, does that disqualify you? Or can you make up for it in other areas? Thanks

I don't know what to tell you. I feel that this is the hardest exercise to "train for," especially when you only have a week or less. Which way are you doing the pull ups (hands facing you or away from you?) If you have only tried one way, try the other. There are tons of exercises you can try to strengthen your pull-up ability, but with a week left...good luck to you.

[Up_On_Base]

I have PTA scheduled for this week and im a bit nervous. i cannot do one pullup! any advice on how to train in one week? If you fail one section of the pta, does that disqualify you? Or can you make up for it in other areas? Thanks

You can't "fail" the PTA, there is not a certain level of performance/points you need to "pass".

But...If you stink up the joint and others do well, it will not help your cause. Not trying to be a d*ck, but if LE is you chosen profession you should be in shape. Keep in mind that many of the FAMS brass are former USSS-SA's, the two organizations closely mirror each other (mission, duty weapons, PT standards/events) I know from my USSS days PT ability is seen as reflection on the agency...even though they can't DQ someone based on that reason...it will give them a reason to look for other things.

[Md094]

I have PTA scheduled for this week and im a bit nervous. i cannot do one pullup! any advice on how to train in one week? If you fail one section of the pta, does that disqualify you? Or can you make up for it in other areas? Thanks

My only advice is give it 110% and do not give up no matter what you feel like. You want to show them you are a teamplayer and you will not let your fellow team members down.

Good luck!

[Steve03xx]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I wasn't sure if when addressing a FAM you referred to them as "Marshal ?????" or a similar title. I appreciate the clarification.

Does the xx in your name stand for 11 or 31?

I'm not sure what you are referring to, but the xx in my name stands for the motorcycle I ride. I ride a 2003 Honda cbr1100xx.

[dtown101]

Well finally finished the process for the second time....my pta was today at WFO 8am time slot......I did alot better this time around in the pta...there were around 30 people there...well good luck to all....

DD

[monalisa301]

thanks for the info. as far as training for pullups, yea, its not going to happen in a week. but i know that ill be working on it from now on, and eventually ill be good. ive been practicing both ways, palms in and palms out ...bar hang, and negative pullups (starting in hang position and slowly releasing myself down ) i heard thats another way to prepare ...

i know being in shape is part of the job, and i definitely consider myself more in shape than most women i know .... the run, pushups and situps i will do well in. however, pullups are not an area women traditionally excel in. most LE jobs that are trying to recruit women have elminated that as a criteria and substituted it with something else ... or made them optional ... i just hope they realize that i can still do the job without doing a pullup. And if they really want pullups, then im gonna need a couple weeks ... thnx again

[Up_On_Base]

thanks for the info. as far as training for pullups, yea, its not going to happen in a week. but i know that ill be working on it from now on, and eventually ill be good. ive been practicing both ways, palms in and palms out ...bar hang, and negative pullups (starting in hang position and slowly releasing myself down ) i heard thats another way to prepare ...

i know being in shape is part of the job, and i definitely consider myself more in shape than most women i know .... the run, pushups and situps i will do well in. however, pullups are not an area women traditionally excel in. most LE jobs that are trying to recruit women have elminated that as a criteria and substituted it with something else ... or made them optional ... i just hope they realize that i can still do the job without doing a pullup. And if they really want pullups, then im gonna need a couple weeks ... thnx again

Just put in a solid effort and see what happens. If you get picked up you will be banging out a ton pull-ups by the end of training.

The females in my class started w/ 2-4 and were knocking out 8ish after 26 weeks.

[cowbucs]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I wasn't sure if when addressing a FAM you referred to them as "Marshal ?????" or a similar title. I appreciate the clarification.



I'm not sure what you are referring to, but the xx in my name stands for the motorcycle I ride. I ride a 2003 Honda cbr1100xx.

I think he was refering to the classification of a military occupation. Marine Corps job in particular. I was going to ask you the same question. 0351 here.

[VCSOMotor91]

[QUOTE=cowbucs;1198065]I think he was refering to the classification of a military occupation. Marine Corps job in particular. I was going to ask you the same question. 0351 here.[/Quo

That's it. I knew another leatherneck would pick that up. I was a 1371.

[Lucky 317]

Well, I just completed my application for the (CAREER LADDER) Federal Air Marshal; on the Avue website.

Not quite sure if thats the same as the general FAM application, but thats why I am posting on here.

So, I guess you can add me to the list of hurry up and wait. :D Im looking forward to it. Hopefully this will be my ticket to get out of Georgia and back to Cali.

[ny2k]

ny2k,

Sorry for the bad news, but good luck in your future endeavors.

Thank you.. Best of luck to you as well.

[ny2k]

Don't give up! Getting a federal LE job is almost like playing the lottery.

I agree.... I need to keep on playing!:)

[shadow_n_beaux]

Hello.

I recently found out about the opening for Federal Air Marshal. From what I have read, it seems as though the hiring process is pretty random, and is not consistent with regard to the length of time the whole process takes.

My question is simple. Has anyone gone through the application process in approximately 4 months from start to finish? I turn 37 in August, so I suspect it is too late for me, but thought I would ask anyway. I know it is a long shot with my age, and having no previous law enforcement experience.

Really the only thing I have in my favor is being an accomplished pistol marksman. There isn't much that I can't do with a handgun. If I can see it, I can hit it, and do it pretty quickly. ;)

The one other small thing thing that might work in my favor is that my wife is an ASAC with another agency. I just want to find out if I stand a chance because of my age situation.

[Up_On_Base]

Hello.

I recently found out about the opening for Federal Air Marshal. From what I have read, it seems as though the hiring process is pretty random, and is not consistent with regard to the length of time the whole process takes.

My question is simple. Has anyone gone through the application process in approximately 4 months from start to finish? I turn 37 in August, so I suspect it is too late for me, but thought I would ask anyway. I know it is a long shot with my age, and having no previous law enforcement experience.

Really the only thing I have in my favor is being an accomplished pistol marksman. There isn't much that I can't do with a handgun. If I can see it, I can hit it, and do it pretty quickly. ;)

The one other small thing thing that might work in my favor is that my wife is an ASAC with another agency. I just want to find out if I stand a chance because of my age situation.

Probably cutting it a little close, can you get picked up by UD or some other 0083 that has higher age limit (40) then also apply to FAMS.

You would be covered (6c/12d) so your age would not hurt you for FAMS.

[bombguy]

Well, gentlemen....I got my COE today!!!!! Holy **** I'm excited!!! Los Angeles Field Office, start date May 11th!!!

I don;t know all the details as of yet...I'm a little leary of LA to, due to expenses, but I love California! But, I am not giving up this chance!!! If any current Marshals could PM me and kinda give me an idea of what to expect, I would greatly appreciate it!!!

[KIDFIRE79]

Well, gentlemen....I got my COE today!!!!! Holy **** I'm excited!!! Los Angeles Field Office, start date May 11th!!!

I don;t know all the details as of yet...I'm a little leary of LA to, due to expenses, but I love California! But, I am not giving up this chance!!! If any current Marshals could PM me and kinda give me an idea of what to expect, I would greatly appreciate it!!!

Congratulations, If you do not mind, can you give us your timeline from application to EOD. I just finished the process and was just wondering.

Thanks

[shadow_n_beaux]

Probably cutting it a little close, can you get picked up by UD or some other 0083 that has higher age limit (40) then also apply to FAMS.

You would be covered (6c/12d) so your age would not hurt you for FAMS.

Thanks. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is UD? :o

If anyone else has thoughts on whether I could possibly get hired in 4 months I'd appreciate your opinions. If so, I need to get this application finished ASAP! Thanks!

[GuyinCali]

Well, gentlemen....I got my COE today!!!!! Holy **** I'm excited!!! Los Angeles Field Office, start date May 11th!!!

I don;t know all the details as of yet...I'm a little leary of LA to, due to expenses, but I love California! But, I am not giving up this chance!!! If any current Marshals could PM me and kinda give me an idea of what to expect, I would greatly appreciate it!!!

Can you give us a time line, so you must be under the old applications, medical, UA, DI, fingerprints and PTA. How did you score on your PTA?

That is great to hear that you got the LA FO. That is the office I have completed all my process. I completed my PTA in the LA FO on March 24, 08.

Praying on a EOD!!!

[Navalaircrewman]

Thanks. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is UD? :o

If anyone else has thoughts on whether I could possibly get hired in 4 months I'd appreciate your opinions. If so, I need to get this application finished ASAP! Thanks!

I believe it's USSS Uniform Division

[Navalaircrewman]

[QUOTE=GuyinCali;1199456]Can you give us a time line, so you must be under the old applications, medical, UA, DI, fingerprints and PTA. How did you score on your PTA?



That is great to hear that you got the LA FO. That is the office I have completed all my process. I completed my PTA in the LA FO on March 24, 08.
You may take my slot...since I think I'm going to sign the declination for the FAm position in CA today...who knows

[jimjimjim]

From his previous post...

Jan 07 Sent in App
Jan 07 Received COE
May 07 Panel Interview
Feb 08 Medical Clearance
Mar 08 Fingerprint scan
Apr 08 PT Test
Apr 08 BI/transcripts submitted

[GuyinCali]

[QUOTE=Navalaircrewman;.
You may take my slot...since I think I'm going to sign the declination for the FAm position in CA today...who knows[/QUOTE]

You did not accept the LAFO but you did take the SF FO, correct? What is your start date?

[Navalaircrewman]

You did not accept the LAFO but you did take the SF FO, correct? What is your start date?

11 May in SFO that's correct. they gave me a choice. However, I have descepencies in my final offer letter. The people I need to talk to are "out" and I'm leaving Wednesday for the middle east until may 10. My boss is also on my case...wanting me to resolve this by tomorrow. If I don't resolve the issues in my offer letter (salary and such), then i'm not going to sign it...meaning a decline

[Lucky 317]

Can anyone please advise if I applied under the correct listing.

The AVUE Digital Service website listed both;

(CAREER LADDER) Federal Air Marshal

and

Federal Air Marshal

For whatever reason, the site would only allow me to apply for the "Career Ladder"

Thanks, and congrats to the last couple of guys who got the job offer!

[PriorFAST]

Can anyone please advise if I applied under the correct listing.

The AVUE Digital Service website listed both;

(CAREER LADDER) Federal Air Marshal

and

Federal Air Marshal

For whatever reason, the site would only allow me to apply for the "Career Ladder"

Thanks, and congrats to the last couple of guys who got the job offer!

You're fine, I think the other is for current fams

[blueshield22]

Ok Im new to this site!!!! I have also applied for the FAMS position. I put in my app in Feb, got my phone interview in March, and am taking my panel and written exercises on this coming wed. I am currently police down here in Dallas and also have 4 yrs experience as an Army Medic. Can some of you guys take some time and let me know how you think the process will work for us new guys that have applied for the FAMS on the new announcement for the first time. Also, I know they posted that there are only 50 positions open for this year, but a lot more than 50 guys seem to be getting hired just from a few I know and from what you all have been writing on this site. So what do you all think. Also does anyone have a clue as to when they will try and start hiring from the new announcement guys? Good luck to all!!!

Feb 08/APP
March 08/Phone Interview
March 08/COE
April 08/Panel

[Navalaircrewman]

I just spoke with management back east. I'm delaying until next class sometime in June due to my deployment on Wednesday.

[Md094]

I just spoke with management back east. I'm delaying until next class sometime in June due to my deployment on Wednesday.


That is great news, I am glad they worked with you to get you on board. Good luck and stay safe on your deployment.

[Navalaircrewman]

That is great news, I am glad they worked with you to get you on board. Good luck and stay safe on your deployment.

Thanks.....It may have delayed a little any way due to the fact I'm a federal employee now, and HR's have to negotiate to get a release date from one position to move into another.

[kamkze]

Well I got some potentially bad news for people on the old announcement today, if you have not completed everything for the old announcement and had your packet reviewed, you had better apply under the new announcement. There will be no more hiring panels for the old announcement. I just found out today that my packet somehow was "misplaced" and never made it to the hiring panel. So now I guess I start over on the new announcement, I also had my phone interview today for the new announcement.

[litreofcola]

Well I got some potentially bad news for people on the old announcement today, if you have not completed everything for the old announcement and had your packet reviewed, you had better apply under the new announcement. There will be no more hiring panels for the old announcement. I just found out today that my packet somehow was "misplaced" and never made it to the hiring panel. So now I guess I start over on the new announcement, I also had my phone interview today for the new announcement.

How did u find out yours was misplaced? I am complete on the old announment, and am starting to see some guys get calls. I finished up with pt on april 4, and was told my prelim background should have been completed by now. Last contact I had with Avue was that my packet was "complete."

Wish I knew when hiring panel had it, when and if it has been looked at yet, lol. Also, for you guys getting the call with EOD, when did u finish the process?? Is it going in order, or how are they doing this thing.

[Navalaircrewman]

How did u find out yours was misplaced? I am complete on the old announment, and am starting to see some guys get calls. I finished up with pt on april 4, and was told my prelim background should have been completed by now. Last contact I had with Avue was that my packet was "complete."

Wish I knew when hiring panel had it, when and if it has been looked at yet, lol. Also, for you guys getting the call with EOD, when did u finish the process?? Is it going in order, or how are they doing this thing.

I finished up on March 12th (off the old announcement)

[kamkze]

I finished mine up March 8th

[blueshield22]

I finished mine up March 8th

Ok Im new to this site!!!! I have also applied for the FAMS position. I put in my app in Feb, got my phone interview in March, and am taking my panel and written exercises on this coming wed. I am currently police down here in Dallas and also have 4 yrs experience as an Army Medic. Can some of you guys take some time and let me know how you think the process will work for us new guys that have applied for the FAMS on the new announcement for the first time. Also, I know they posted that there are only 50 positions open for this year, but a lot more than 50 guys seem to be getting hired just from a few I know and from what you all have been writing on this site. So what do you all think. Also does anyone have a clue as to when they will try and start hiring from the new announcement guys? Good luck to all!!!

Feb 08/APP
March 08/Phone Interview
March 08/COE
April 08/Panel

[kamkze]

Ok Im new to this site!!!! I have also applied for the FAMS position. I put in my app in Feb, got my phone interview in March, and am taking my panel and written exercises on this coming wed. I am currently police down here in Dallas and also have 4 yrs experience as an Army Medic. Can some of you guys take some time and let me know how you think the process will work for us new guys that have applied for the FAMS on the new announcement for the first time. Also, I know they posted that there are only 50 positions open for this year, but a lot more than 50 guys seem to be getting hired just from a few I know and from what you all have been writing on this site. So what do you all think. Also does anyone have a clue as to when they will try and start hiring from the new announcement guys? Good luck to all!!!

Feb 08/APP
March 08/Phone Interview
March 08/COE
April 08/Panel


There is supposed to be a total of 300-350 hired this year, the guys that have been hired so far are off the old announcement. Once you complete your panel and written exercises, and if you pass you will have to do a medical, PTA, fingerprints and BI. Once all that is complete they will send your info off to the hiring panel and a decision will be made, if your stuff makes it to the panel LOL. JK you just have to be patient.

[luv2spind]

Has anyone received a tntative offer letter with there e-qip information.....?

[GuyinCali]

Has anyone received a tntative offer letter with there e-qip information.....?

I got that letter back on March 10, 2008 it said

Dear FAM Applicant:

You have been tentiatively selected for a position with Federal Air Marshal Services.
Then it stated that I needed to complete the SF86 within 5 days.

Did you get this too?

I have completed everything... March 24 I finished my PTA and a sort of sit and meet the SAC of the FO. I called HR today, she said that my packet was complete, we had been going back and forth on issues on my DD214. The last time I heard anything was March 27, 2008. I fax info back that was requested. She said today it's in the Hiring Managers now.

So, can we all say a little prayer, "Please Hiring Manager be impressed by my experience and abilities, that my packet gets your approval and I can receive and EOD." Amen....

Thanks...

[luv2spind]

I recieved the same thing, My SAC in my office said pretty much it is a for sure job offer but they have work to finish on there ends first before you get a EOD.....but in still worried and anxious as all hell,,,,,,,,lol have no nails left

[luv2spind]

sorry ASAC i mean

[bombguy]

Well I got some potentially bad news for people on the old announcement today, if you have not completed everything for the old announcement and had your packet reviewed, you had better apply under the new announcement. There will be no more hiring panels for the old announcement. I just found out today that my packet somehow was "misplaced" and never made it to the hiring panel. So now I guess I start over on the new announcement, I also had my phone interview today for the new announcement.

I don't think that could be totally true as I just got hired today and I'm on the old announcement as well.

[scout242]

I got that letter back on March 10, 2008 it said

Dear FAM Applicant:

You have been tentiatively selected for a position with Federal Air Marshal Services.
Then it stated that I needed to complete the SF86 within 5 days.


For those who got the tentative selection email letter (with e-Qip link) - did you have a panel interview before you received it?

I got the tentative selection letter after my phone interview (around Mar. 10) and haven't had a panel interview yet.

I'm just trying to figure out if/when I'll be scheduled for a panel interview...or if some field offices are skipping the panel interview all together???

[luv2spind]

For those who got the tentative selection email letter (with e-Qip link) - did you have a panel interview before you received it?

I got the tentative selection letter after my phone interview (around Mar. 10) and haven't had a panel interview yet.

I'm just trying to figure out if/when I'll be scheduled for a panel interview...or if some field offices are skipping the panel interview all together???

THINGS ARE WEIRD, I WORK FOR I.C.E NOW THE WAY HIRING GOES IS YOU
1. SUBMITT APP
2. COE
3.PANEL INTERVIEW
4 MEDICAL/DRUG/FINGERPRINT
5.PTA
6 TENTATIVE OFFER
7.EOD

I GOT MY TENTATIVE IN WHICH SHOULD BE THE LAST THING BEFORE GETTING YOUR EOD, I HAD MY INTERVIEW 2.5 YEARS AGO SO WHO LNOWS WHAT ORDER THEY ARE WORKING .......?SO IM JUST PRAYING

[luv2spind]

A Tentative Offers Means You Accept An Offer Without A Official Eod, Which They Have To Do More Processing To Your Paper Work Before The Official Eod Is Issued.

[ny2k]

Guys,

This is pretty weird...I figure I share more info.. I took the final step which was my PT on March the 12th ,.Received the tentatively job offer 1 week latter, completed the SF86, Submitted my transcripts and Got shot down last Saturday thanking me for my recent application but better candidates are being considered for the position .. Anyone else on the same boat?

[Clevbrownies]

Guys,

This is pretty weird...I figure I share more info.. I took the final step which was my PT on March the 12th ,.Received the tentatively job offer 1 week latter, completed the SF86, Submitted my transcripts and Got shot down last Saturday thanking me for my recent application but better candidates are being considered for the position .. Anyone else on the same boat?

Roughly the same timeline and also recived the tentatively job offer. got calls left and right.....submitted my transcripts, DD-214, did E-qip and SF86 got send off to the hiring panel, smiles and congrads from everyone i talked too....received the Thanks but no thanks e-mail last week.... not sure what happen? I am in the new process, so far the phone interview and COE #2 finished paper work for the old process and sent off around March 27th. :confused: good luck Bombguy congrads on the job!

[kamkze]

I don't think that could be totally true as I just got hired today and I'm on the old announcement as well.

Its totally true, you had finished your stuff before they stopped doing hiring panels, I said if you hadnt finished all the steps yet that you were SOL. There will still be some people hired off the old announcement but only if all your step are complete.

[ny2k]

Roughly the same timeline and also recived the tentatively job offer. got calls left and right.....submitted my transcripts, DD-214, did E-qip and SF86 got send off to the hiring panel, smiles and congrads from everyone i talked too....received the Thanks but no thanks e-mail last week.... not sure what happen? I am in the new process, so far the phone interview and COE #2 finished paper work for the old process and sent off around March 27th. :confused: good luck Bombguy congrads on the job!

Sounds like we both are in the same exact situation. Our timelines are the same. I would like to believe that ..Maybe Just Maybe.. that email was generated once they flushed the old announcement? :confused:

[bombguy]

Its totally true, you had finished your stuff before they stopped doing hiring panels, I said if you hadnt finished all the steps yet that you were SOL. There will still be some people hired off the old announcement but only if all your step are complete.

gotcha....:o

[Bama Boy]

I recieved the same thing, My SAC in my office said pretty much it is a for sure job offer but they have work to finish on there ends first before you get a EOD.....but in still worried and anxious as all hell,,,,,,,,lol have no nails left


I got the email back on March 10 but I had my panel on the 11th and the PTA on the 12th. Some of the people at that did not pass the interview on the day I interviewed received the email as well. So I would not take it as to sure of a thing.

[futurefed21]

For those who got the tentative selection email letter (with e-Qip link) - did you have a panel interview before you received it?

I got the tentative selection letter after my phone interview (around Mar. 10) and haven't had a panel interview yet.

I'm just trying to figure out if/when I'll be scheduled for a panel interview...or if some field offices are skipping the panel interview all together???

through the posts ive seen on the forums, its seems like this is a NY/NJ thing (by thing i mean sending the emails/requesting BI forms BEFORE scheduling the panel)...for most other people across the country it seems to be vice versa, panel FIRST, and then the forms...jus gotta keep playing the waiting game bro.

[thenagain]

I thought that I read the email clearly but....I received the COE and accepted same. I had the phone interview and was told that I would hear from the FO next. Is the tentative offer letter with the SF86 attached different from the COE letter? I am assuming it is but this process seems to go in several different directions at once. Thanks.

[VCSOMotor91]

I did my pta, 2 written tests, and ua yesterday. We had a group of about 15people attend. After we finished up, we were told that we should get an e-mail to take a physical SOON.

[bluecollar$]

What written tests?

[scout242]

I thought that I read the email clearly but....I received the COE and accepted same. I had the phone interview and was told that I would hear from the FO next. Is the tentative offer letter with the SF86 attached different from the COE letter? I am assuming it is but this process seems to go in several different directions at once. Thanks.

Yes, the tentative offer letter/email comes after the COE. It includes a link to fill out an SF-86 online.

I was confused because I got the tentative letter before a panel interview, whereas others have had their panel interview first.

Crazy process.:rolleyes:

[ochoism]

Wow, I've been reading this forum for a few weeks now. Now I can post too. It's interesting to see how so many of us have been going through this process for so long. What's even more interesting is that even as we speak and we are going through the new announcements, it look as though every field office is procesing everything different from one another. I'm being processed through the DFW FO, but that's only because it's the closest place for me, doesn't mean I'll get to work there; would be nice though. Below is the order in which my process has been under the new annoucenment. Also, I have not seen any post about a video based situational judgement test, I take that tomorrow and I've never even heard of it before or from anyone in the posts.

Jan 08 - Reapplied
Mar 08 - Panel Phone Interview (3 Hour Notice)
Mar 08 - COE / Accepted
Apr 08 - eQIP & Release Forms from TSA (not from AVUE)
Apr 08 - Livescan Fingerprints
Tomorrow - Live Panel Interview / Reasoning Test / Video Judgement Test

[Bama Boy]

Wow, I've been reading this forum for a few weeks now. Now I can post too. It's interesting to see how so many of us have been going through this process for so long. What's even more interesting is that even as we speak and we are going through the new announcements, it look as though every field office is procesing everything different from one another. I'm being processed through the DFW FO, but that's only because it's the closest place for me, doesn't mean I'll get to work there; would be nice though. Below is the order in which my process has been under the new annoucenment. Also, I have not seen any post about a video based situational judgement test, I take that tomorrow and I've never even heard of it before or from anyone in the posts.

Jan 08 - Reapplied
Mar 08 - Panel Phone Interview (3 Hour Notice)
Mar 08 - COE / Accepted
Apr 08 - eQIP & Release Forms from TSA (not from AVUE)
Apr 08 - Livescan Fingerprints
Tomorrow - Live Panel Interview / Reasoning Test / Video Judgement Test

All that I can say about the video test is prepare yourself to hold back the laughs at how freakin hilarious the video is. You will see what I mean soon enough.

[VCSOMotor91]

I agree with ya. CHEESEY.

[blueshield22]

Wow, I've been reading this forum for a few weeks now. Now I can post too. It's interesting to see how so many of us have been going through this process for so long. What's even more interesting is that even as we speak and we are going through the new announcements, it look as though every field office is procesing everything different from one another. I'm being processed through the DFW FO, but that's only because it's the closest place for me, doesn't mean I'll get to work there; would be nice though. Below is the order in which my process has been under the new annoucenment. Also, I have not seen any post about a video based situational judgement test, I take that tomorrow and I've never even heard of it before or from anyone in the posts.

Jan 08 - Reapplied
Mar 08 - Panel Phone Interview (3 Hour Notice)
Mar 08 - COE / Accepted
Apr 08 - eQIP & Release Forms from TSA (not from AVUE)
Apr 08 - Livescan Fingerprints
Tomorrow - Live Panel Interview / Reasoning Test / Video Judgement Test


Hey, We will be there together tommorow. The video based test is a situation or a couple of situatuions usually that they show you and then you have to explain how you would handle that situation. At leasts thats how the one I did back in 2005 when applying for law enforcement positions. So you already did the live scan and eqip....weird I got the COE but have not gotten anything from TSA about eQip.....weird how everyone is getting done differently.

[Md094]

Hey, We will be there together tommorow. The video based test is a situation or a couple of situatuions usually that they show you and then you have to explain how you would handle that situation. At leasts thats how the one I did back in 2005 when applying for law enforcement positions. So you already did the live scan and eqip....weird I got the COE but have not gotten anything from TSA about eQip.....weird how everyone is getting done differently.


I have gotten the COE, but nothing from TSA about eQip either. It really seems each FO is doing it differently or it is just happening that way.

I have not done the fingerprints or physical yet, but I have done the phone interview, panel interview, PTA and written tests.

Patience I guess...

[dtown101]

Wow, I've been reading this forum for a few weeks now. Now I can post too. It's interesting to see how so many of us have been going through this process for so long. What's even more interesting is that even as we speak and we are going through the new announcements, it look as though every field office is procesing everything different from one another. I'm being processed through the DFW FO, but that's only because it's the closest place for me, doesn't mean I'll get to work there; would be nice though. Below is the order in which my process has been under the new annoucenment. Also, I have not seen any post about a video based situational judgement test, I take that tomorrow and I've never even heard of it before or from anyone in the posts.

Jan 08 - Reapplied
Mar 08 - Panel Phone Interview (3 Hour Notice)
Mar 08 - COE / Accepted
Apr 08 - eQIP & Release Forms from TSA (not from AVUE)
Apr 08 - Livescan Fingerprints
Tomorrow - Live Panel Interview / Reasoning Test / Video Judgement Test

From what i am being told about the dfw fo is no way you would get that fo....charlotte, houston, and dfw are the toughest to get to

[warrior 76]

hello again
I was wondering if there is any time limit on push-ups and sit-ups.

[warrior 76]

hi can sombody tell me if there is any time limit for push-ups and sit-ups.

[GuyinCali]

hello again
I was wondering if there is any time limit on push-ups and sit-ups.

The time limit is one minute for each...

Praying for an EOD!!!

[warrior 76]

sit-ups like army or the marines?

[dtown101]

well i can say to yall that I am now done with the whole process AGAIN!!!!

my journey with FAMS started back in July of 2006

Here is how my journey looks

August 4 2006
Panel Interview
ASAC Interview
Medical
Fingerprints @ Dulles Airport (live scan)
PTA
NO BQA letter just waiting........

January 2008
Reapplied under new vacancy announcement
March 25 2008
Phone Interview
Resubmitted background through equip (OPM)
March 26 2008
Resubmitted Fingerprints @ Regan National (live scan)
April 15 2008
2 Written Test
panel interview
ASAC interview
April 19 2008
PTA (31yrs old, male)
Pullups 15, pushups 55, situps 50, run 9min 57 sec (excellent in all groups for my age and gender)
Now the waiting begins again

[GuyinCali]

sit-ups like army or the marines?

I know on the sit-ups, you have to cross your arms in front and place your hands in your armpits. You can't put them on the back of your head... When you come up your elbows have to touch your knees...

Praying for an EOD...

[kamkze]

I know on the sit-ups, you have to cross your arms in front and place your hands in your armpits. You can't put them on the back of your head... When you come up your elbows have to touch your knees...

Praying for an EOD...

Yes you have to touch your knees

[marinecop2]

hello again
I was wondering if there is any time limit on push-ups and sit-ups.


As many as you can in 1 minute.

[USVET]

Here is the link to all the answers about the PTA.http://www.avuedigitalservices.com/pdf/OTD_Pre-Training_Guide.pdf

[KIDFIRE79]

I have gotten the COE, but nothing from TSA about eQip either. It really seems each FO is doing it differently or it is just happening that way.

I have not done the fingerprints or physical yet, but I have done the phone interview, panel interview, PTA and written tests.

Patience I guess...

Md094,
Did you test at the Chicago Field Office?

[EWUCrimj]

Any idea of how important the physical test is? I would assume it's more important to do well on the written and interview portions than the PTA. I should be able to score "fair" on all the tests, but nothing more than "fair". They scheduled me today for next Mondays panel. Only 6 days to prepare.

[Marley73]

Hey everyone....been lurking around for a lil bit and now I decided to finally post up. I guess I'm in the same boat as everyone else...just sitting and waiting impatiently. Anybody else apply out of the Miami area?

Feb 14th 08 - Applied
Mar 24th 08 - Phone Interview
Apr 8th 08 - COE

[Up_On_Base]

Any idea of how important the physical test is? I would assume it's more important to do well on the written and interview portions than the PTA. I should be able to score "fair" on all the tests, but nothing more than "fair". They scheduled me today for next Mondays panel. Only 6 days to prepare.

You can't "fail" but doing well will not hurt your chances...if you know what I mean.

[TXICE]

One of my buddies just got hired and is being sent to San Francisco.

[GuyinCali]

One of my buddies just got hired and is being sent to San Francisco.

How long ago did he apply? Do you know his report date to SFO?

[TXICE]

How long ago did he apply? Do you know his report date to SFO?

I really dont Guy...I found out through a mutual friend. I know it was recent (past 1-2 weeks) that he turned in his 2 week notice at his current employer.

[GuyinCali]

Is there any other who applied on the old announcement still pending EOD?

September 2006 Applied
September 2006 Conditional Offer of Employment:
May 2007 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
January 23, 08 Reapplied on new announcement
March 3, 08 Physical & UA Test (old announcement)
March 12, 08 BI Completed.
March 13, 08 Fingerprints
March 24, 08 PTA and informal meeting with the FO SAC
March 28, 08 Contacted by HQ, fax info from my DD214
April 4, 08 Completed Phone Interview (new announcement)
April 8, 08 COE
April 23, 08 Tomorrow morning I have my Assessment Date.

Praying for and EOD...

[bombguy]

Has anyone else been hired on with a report date for the Los Angeles field office? I'm supposed to report on the 12th I think...according to my paperwork. If not, anyone going to training in June?

[GuyinCali]

Has anyone else been hired on with a report date for the Los Angeles field office? I'm supposed to report on the 12th I think...according to my paperwork. If not, anyone going to training in June?

What was the last step of the process that you completed, and when did you complete that?

Praying on an EOD...

[bombguy]

What was the last step of the process that you completed, and when did you complete that?

Praying on an EOD...

My last step was the PTA on Apr 4th. Then I resubmitted my transcripts and current job info on the 7th. My package was submitted to the hiring board on the 8th and I got my call yesterday for the LA Field Office.:D

[Lucky 317]

Congratulation's.... I plan on hopefully joining you out of LAX in the future. While Ive only just submitted my app. 3 nights ago and know its a long and lonely road. If its worth the wait, then I don't mind the waiting game.

[Navalaircrewman]

I really dont Guy...I found out through a mutual friend. I know it was recent (past 1-2 weeks) that he turned in his 2 week notice at his current employer.

AS some of you know, they gave me the option of April 27 or may11 at SFO.....However Now I am delayed approx a month

[luv2spind]

Is there any other who applied on the old announcement still pending EOD?

September 2006 Applied
September 2006 Conditional Offer of Employment:
May 2007 Panel Interview & UA Test @ FO
January 23, 08 Reapplied on new announcement
March 3, 08 Physical & UA Test (old announcement)
March 12, 08 BI Completed.
March 13, 08 Fingerprints
March 24, 08 PTA and informal meeting with the FO SAC
March 28, 08 Contacted by HQ, fax info from my DD214
April 4, 08 Completed Phone Interview (new announcement)
April 8, 08 COE
April 23, 08 Tomorrow morning I have my Assessment Date.

Praying for and EOD...


just praying for my EOD,,,,,lol

[Lucky 317]

Hey guys, what the hell are you referring to with "EOD"?

The only term I know, and I know your not referring to is; Explosive Ordnance Disposal

Just curious... thanks

[luv2spind]

Hey guys, what the hell are you referring to with "EOD"?

The only term I know, and I know your not referring to is; Explosive Ordnance Disposal

Just curious... thanks


"ENTRANCE ON DUTY" USUALLY IT GOES WITH YOU SF-50 IN WHICH IS THE TIME YOU START YOUR TERM SERVICE WITH THE GOVERNMENT

[bombguy]

Hey guys, what the hell are you referring to with "EOD"?

The only term I know, and I know your not referring to is; Explosive Ordnance Disposal

Just curious... thanks

You're not the only one man....I was EOD in the Air Force, so it confused me a bit too! Haha!

[luv2spind]

Originally Posted by Lucky 317
Hey guys, what the hell are you referring to with "EOD"?

I THOUGHT THAT TOO UNTIL I ASKED ANOTHER GUY IN MY OFFICE,,,,LOL

[FCAP_2008]

Does anyone know when the Hiring Panel meets?

[Lucky 317]

Fantastic...

Thanks guys, I don't feel like such a noobie now. :D

On the upside, I did receive this email yesterday; Confirmation of Receipt of Application for Federal Air Marshal Service Vacancy FAMS-FLD-08-0045. So I guess thats a start... Am I now officially part of the waiting game? :confused:

[287cpd]

Can anyone tell me if they started anything in Atlanta?

[Lucky 317]

Can anyone tell me if they started anything in Atlanta?

Im in Atlanta... havent really started much, but Ive started. Hoping though that if I do get on, I can get the hell out of Atlanta!

[Up_On_Base]

Hey...

To anyone who took the PTA today in NJ, did you run outside in the parking lot? Or did you go to a local high school?

[scout242]

I know this is a little off-topic, but could someone give me an overview of how health insurance works for FAMs (and their family members).

I would like to compare FAMs health care coverage/costs to what I'm getting in the military now. I have three children, so I'm concerned about shelling out a lot of money for coverage.

Thanks in advance.

[Lucky 317]

I know this is a little off-topic, but could someone give me an overview of how health insurance works for FAMs (and their family members).

I would like to compare FAMs health care coverage/costs to what I'm getting in the military now. I have three children, so I'm concerned about shelling out a lot of money for coverage.

Thanks in advance.

I obviously can not provide you with dollar amounts, but I did come across this on the TSA website.

http://www.tsa.gov/join/benefits/career_benefits.shtm

Not sure if it'll help, but I thought Id put it out there for ya.

[scout242]

Thanks Lucky 317.
I found an OPM site (http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/08rates/index.asp)that lists the costs for HMO and FFS plans, but am not sure if these are the only two options available, since the TSA site says "wide range" of health insurance options available.

Just wondering if any current FAMS of Fed employees can clarify. The TSA site is pretty darn vague.

[Rolla]

I know this is a little off-topic, but could someone give me an overview of how health insurance works for FAMs (and their family members).

I would like to compare FAMs health care coverage/costs to what I'm getting in the military now. I have three children, so I'm concerned about shelling out a lot of money for coverage.

Thanks in advance.

During your first week you will be given a book full og Blue Cross/ Blue Shield and Keystone plans and you get to pick which on you would like.

[kamkze]

Does anyone know when the Hiring Panel meets?

I was told they meet once a week.

[ocpd8655]

so am i the only one off the new announcment still waiting for the phone interview?

[ocpd8655]

i applied in feb got the email about the phone interview in march but still nothing

[luv2spind]

so am i the only one off the new announcment still waiting for the phone interview?


I STILL HAVENT HEARD ANYTHING

[USVET]

so am i the only one off the new announcment still waiting for the phone interview?

Add me to the list of new applicants still waiting for that phone interview. From what I have read though it could take a while. Just gotta be patient!
I applied 2 weeks ago and every time the phone rings I think its them!:eek:

[warrior 76]

humm!!! how many steps are there in hiring process? after all the common steps i.e. phone interview, contigent offer letter, fingerprints, online background application, physical fitness test, panel interview, medical exam etc. and now i read something about the video and written test? what's that written test consist of and how can i prepare for it? can anyone please explain that. Thanks for the info about the physical fitness test.
NY office is moving kind of slow or is it just the way they do business?

[Navalaircrewman]

[QUOTE=scout242;1203474]Thanks Lucky 317.
I found an OPM site (http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/08rates/index.asp)that lists the costs for HMO and FFS plans, but am not sure if these are the only two options available, since the TSA site says "wide range" of health insurance options available.

Just wondering if any current FAMS of Fed employees can clarify. The TSA site is pretty darn vague.[/QUOT As a federal employee you wil be eligible for the Federal Employee Health Benefits program. As someone else stated there are several plans to choose from. HMO's and FFS PPO plans. In addition you can get dental through again several plans. And vision. I currently have the Blue cross/Blue Shield Standard FFS plan for my family. Vision:VSP..and United Concordia Dental. Unfortunately it is expensive. I pay over $400 per month for all. AS A new federal employee, your benefits should take affect the full pay period following the EOD pay period..but i believe you must sign up within 60 days after EOD with Gov.

http://www.opm.gov/insure/

[dtown101]

[QUOTE=scout242;1203474]Thanks Lucky 317.
I found an OPM site (http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/08rates/index.asp)that lists the costs for HMO and FFS plans, but am not sure if these are the only two options available, since the TSA site says "wide range" of health insurance options available.

Just wondering if any current FAMS of Fed employees can clarify. The TSA site is pretty darn vague.[/QUOT As a federal employee you wil be eligible for the Federal Employee Health Benefits program. As someone else stated there are several plans to choose from. HMO's and FFS PPO plans. In addition you can get dental through again several plans. And vision. I currently have the Blue cross/Blue Shield Standard FFS plan for my family. Vision:VSP..and United Concordia Dental. Unfortunately it is expensive. I pay over $400 per month for all. AS A new federal employee, your benefits should take affect the full pay period following the EOD pay period..but i believe you must sign up within 60 days after EOD with Gov.

http://www.opm.gov/insure/

I am current fed emp and I only pay about 176.00 a month on family ins....i have fed bcbs...the fed ins is tons better compared to state or local....your benefits take full effect when you are brought over and sign up for your new health plan...

[dtown101]

humm!!! how many steps are there in hiring process? after all the common steps i.e. phone interview, contigent offer letter, fingerprints, online background application, physical fitness test, panel interview, medical exam etc. and now i read something about the video and written test? what's that written test consist of and how can i prepare for it? can anyone please explain that. Thanks for the info about the physical fitness test.
NY office is moving kind of slow or is it just the way they do business?

the steps:

apply
phone interview
background info -equip(OPM)
contingency offer
2 Written Test
panel interview
ASAC interview(if you pass panel)
PTA-consist of pullups(not timed), pushups(1 min), situps(1min), mile n half run
for the PTA I can give you my age group for excellent. im over 30 /male
Pullups-10 or more is excellent
Pushups 50 or more is excellent
situps 43 or more is excellent
mile n half run 10min 42sec

just to give you an idea

cant go into what the written test is about....we have to sign a statement saying we cant discuss what the test or panel is about.....dont worry about them you should do fine

[blueshield22]

Well I just took the panel, FO SAC meeting, Written, Video, and UA....Was told that my Panel went "VERY" well so hoping to here more soon.

[Lazer]

Finished logic test, video test, panel interview, drug test and PTA all in one day. Next step should be medical and finishing up miscellaneous forms as they request them.

[Lazer]

Not every office does ASAC meetings, that is different from office to office.





the steps:

apply
phone interview
background info -equip(OPM)
contingency offer
2 Written Test
panel interview
ASAC interview(if you pass panel)
PTA-consist of pullups(not timed), pushups(1 min), situps(1min), mile n half run
for the PTA I can give you my age group for excellent. im over 30 /male
Pullups-10 or more is excellent
Pushups 50 or more is excellent
situps 43 or more is excellent
mile n half run 10min 42sec

just to give you an idea

cant go into what the written test is about....we have to sign a statement saying we cant discuss what the test or panel is about.....dont worry about them you should do fine

[Steve03xx]

I passed the Panel Interview on Tuesday, and have been scheduled for the PTA tomorrow morning. I have been unable to get in to see a physician to have the required forms signed off. Does anyone know if these forms are required to be completed before the PTA and will I be allowed to go through the PTA without them?

[ochoism]

Well I just took the panel, FO SAC meeting, Written, Video, and UA....Was told that my Panel went "VERY" well so hoping to here more soon.

I didn't get the "Very" well, but was told I passed. Was told work out as much as I can, so I can score well on the PT when it's scheduled.

Goodluck blueshield22.

[blueshield22]

I didn't get the "Very" well, but was told I passed. Was told work out as much as I can, so I can score well on the PT when it's scheduled.

Goodluck blueshield22.

Great Man!!! A pass is a pass! Good luck to you too and hope to see you at the PT. Let me know when the schedule you or you here anything at all and I will do the same.

[KIDFIRE79]

I passed the Panel Interview on Tuesday, and have been scheduled for the PTA tomorrow morning. I have been unable to get in to see a physician to have the required forms signed off. Does anyone know if these forms are required to be completed before the PTA and will I be allowed to go through the PTA without them?

Yes, you have to get the forms signed or you will not be allowed to take the PTA.

If I were you, I would try to reschedule, if possible. I would hate to show up and be told I could not take the PT. They sent 3 guys home when I did my PT because they failed to get their forms signed.

Try to go to a local clinic as soon as possible, it should only cost you around 30-45 dollars for a quick physical and signature.

[GuyinCali]

Is anyone looking to go to the LAFO?

[USVET]

I am. I hope I have a shot with them because I can't relocate.

[GuyinCali]

I am. I hope I have a shot with them because I can't relocate.

How far along the process are you?

[ochoism]

Great Man!!! A pass is a pass! Good luck to you too and hope to see you at the PT. Let me know when the schedule you or you here anything at all and I will do the same.

Hey blueshiel22, our POC called me today and wants me to do my PT tomorrow. So I gotta track down a doc in the morning to get the release signed. Wish I had more time to prep.

[VCSOMotor91]

Has anyone gone through the medical yet? Did you have to go through a federal doc or your personal one?

[bombguy]

Has anyone gone through the medical yet? Did you have to go through a federal doc or your personal one?


A lot of us have done it. You'll go to the nearest Federal Occupational Health facility.

[USVET]

How far along the process are you?

Oh i have only just begun! I submitted my application last week. I got the standard confirmation email but that's it. I have almost the same qualifications as someone I know that got picked up for the SFO office so I have my fingers crossed. What stage are you at?

[VCSOMotor91]

A lot of us have done it. You'll go to the nearest Federal Occupational Health facility.

Thanks for the info, how long after your medical did you get the call? I have completed everything else and waiting for the time and place for the medical.

[GuyinCali]

Oh i have only just begun! I submitted my application last week. I got the standard confirmation email but that's it. I have almost the same qualifications as someone I know that got picked up for the SFO office so I have my fingers crossed. What stage are you at?

I applied on the old announcement, completed everthing last month.
On the new announcement I just finished my panel and SAC interview and PTA yesterday. Seems like they are running both apps at the same time... I first applied back in 2005.

[GuyinCali]

bombguy
What FO did you do your process, PTA, Interviews?

[bombguy]

bombguy
What FO did you do your process, PTA, Interviews?

Denver. It was a b!tch doing the PTA!!

[GuyinCali]

Denver. It was a b!tch doing the PTA!!

I bet it was, if your not use to running in that altitude. I bet you felt like you were running and trying to breath out of a straw...

Don't you already have your EOD for the LAFO?

[blueshield22]

Hey blueshiel22, our POC called me today and wants me to do my PT tomorrow. So I gotta track down a doc in the morning to get the release signed. Wish I had more time to prep.


yeah same here. I got my forms signed this evening. Ill see you there!

[GuyinCali]

yeah same here. I got my forms signed this evening. Ill see you there!


Your going to the LAFO too? When was the last time you completed something from the process? What is your EOD?

[southin]

...................

[blueshield22]

What kind of qualifications did that person have? I have a B.S. and 2 years LEO experience for a state agency.

Just try and remember that unlike some other federal agencies, a degree is not everything...I know a lot of guys who have applied and do not have much college.... they do have either military or police experience or both.... experience matters most as does your ability to present your experience to the board...if it looks good on paper you have to make it look good in person and some can not do that....

[bombguy]

I bet it was, if your not use to running in that altitude. I bet you felt like you were running and trying to breath out of a straw...

Don't you already have your EOD for the LAFO?

Sure do...May 11th!!!:D

[Navalaircrewman]

What kind of qualifications did that person have? I have a B.S. and 2 years LEO experience for a state agency.

USVET is talking about me..he's a collegue of mine from the military. My background is mainly military aviation with approx 1 year of military law enforcement mixed in with it. In addition..I've got around 5 years now as a federal employee working in 3 agencies (TSA, Dep of Interior, and now FAA)

[copper02]

I did all the steps on the old announcement, and then had to reapply under this new announcement a few months ago, and haven't heard anything from them? I did well on all the steps in the last announcement...is there anyone else in this same boat?

[GWARDEN234]

Hey guys, submitted my app in January and just completed the process last Saturday. I was almost done with the old announcment and then started the new one. The SAC told me the new hires are coming off the new announcement. Avue is behind the curve on that. They are not going to use Avue in the future. Quick question I forgot to ask on my panel. Does 55 thou. starting pay include cola and leap.

[GWARDEN234]

Just found my answer, disregard

[jleclair]

Hey guys. I've been reading this forum for about the last month and have gotten a lot of insight to the process. Some background: 3 years in the navy, and 1 1/2 years with the TSA. I have about thirty college credits but that's about it. I completed my phone interview for the miami field office on march 2 and still haven't heard anything yet. Keep the info coming I seem to be on the same page as everyone else.

[shawnali]

Hello all I've been looking at this site for sometime. Lots of great info. Thank you for that. I am on the new announcement only, my time line is

Applied-March 08
Phone Interview- April 08

I was a Little worried that I did not receive a COE email right after the phone interview like everyone else did. I did receive two Spam email right after i applied. One from Avue and the other FAMS. Any info would help from the NYC area.

Simper Fi

[blueshield22]

Hey guys. I've been reading this forum for about the last month and have gotten a lot of insight to the process. Some background: 3 years in the navy, and 1 1/2 years with the TSA. I have about thirty college credits but that's about it. I completed my phone interview for the miami field office on march 2 and still haven't heard anything yet. Keep the info coming I seem to be on the same page as everyone else.

Hey man! Well Im out of the Dallas office and just got everything done today. Listen....dont worry too much about not having a degree....impress them other ways. Many of the current marshalls did not have degrees when they first joined. Just do your best, be patient, and leave it in God's hands. Good luck.

[shawnali]

Semper Fi

really sorry about that, im at work cant be caught looking for another job.

[Marley73]

Hey guys. I've been reading this forum for about the last month and have gotten a lot of insight to the process. Some background: 3 years in the navy, and 1 1/2 years with the TSA. I have about thirty college credits but that's about it. I completed my phone interview for the miami field office on march 2 and still haven't heard anything yet. Keep the info coming I seem to be on the same page as everyone else.

Good to see another person out of the Miami area. I'm former Navy as well....hopefully we we'll get a chance to work together in the future.

[Up_On_Base]

Finished my PTA/Written this week, now waiting to hear from Avue regarding possible medical. Did well on the push/sit/pull ups but not so hot on the run, the written/video were fairly easy so I am interested in the results.

Anyone know how long the wait is from PTA/Written to medical?

I heard there will be June/July classes but nothing scheduled yet for late summer or fall. Really impressed with the staff at the FO, everyone was very cool and seemed squared away.

I am surprised how quick this process is going, I am sure it will come to a halt soon once they fill the pool w/ qualified apps.

[horse]

anyone headed NYC field office May 11 or 12.Got the call and the offer Thursday from"703".almost two years to the date of initial application.So they are taking form the old list still,but i think its more like they are merging the two together.

[bombguy]

anyone headed NYC field office May 11 or 12.Got the call and the offer Thursday from"703".almost two years to the date of initial application.So they are taking form the old list still,but i think its more like they are merging the two together.

Congrats man!! That "703" caller id is a godsend!! I'll probably see you at FLETC!

[VCSOMotor91]

Finished my PTA/Written this week, now waiting to hear from Avue regarding possible medical. Did well on the push/sit/pull ups but not so hot on the run, the written/video were fairly easy so I am interested in the results.

Anyone know how long the wait is from PTA/Written to medical?

I heard there will be June/July classes but nothing scheduled yet for late summer or fall. Really impressed with the staff at the FO, everyone was very cool and seemed squared away.

I am surprised how quick this process is going, I am sure it will come to a halt soon once they fill the pool w/ qualified apps.

Im is the same boat as you. Hopefully we will hear something this week reference the medical.

[Steve03xx]

Im is the same boat as you. Hopefully we will hear something this week reference the medical.

Make that 3. Finished everything Friday and began praying again. I'm thrilled I made it this far!!!

Good luck to everyone. I hope to meet all of you very soon.

[Rather_Static]

Applied in Dec of 2005....I got my final offer this week:

EWR

wtf over?

I am going to pass.

I have 4 kids, a wife, her business, 4 rental homes..there is no way I am going to EWR.

The thing that really kind of torques my ***** about this whole thing is that after I got done smoke checking the PTA...I was told by the SAIC and the ASAIC not to worry about the new annoucement and that they were going to be able to keep me DTW...So I didn't bother with the new announcement.

I am currently going through FLETC in Glynco for CBP..due to my past 16 years of Spec Op's, PMC and Aviation experience and ratings, etc...once I hit GS11, I 'should' be able to slide right into an Air Unit...So that is the plan. I will be a GS9 in 1 year and the OT, arrests and siezures in Detroit land border is going to keep me plenty busy.

If I start the new announcement now...I wont be able to do anything with it until I leave here in July...I have no desire to do back to back academy trips.

If the FAMS want me, they'll keep me and send me to DTW..if they dont, they don't....and I will move on. I am calling and sending emails on Monday to both field offices and HR.

I am one day closer today to my 6(C) retirement...TSP, my 30% and SS than I was yesterday...buying 9 years back as well.

Its good to have options :D.

I'll let you all know what happens this week...I am very content with what ever happens.

[blueshield22]

Well as I said I finished everything at the Dallas FO and just waiting to here from DC on any info relating to the medical/backround. I got a question for the whole lot of you guys out there applying with me and please give me some feed back. I have both military and law enforcement experience. I did great on the panel and pretty good on the pta. I am young and have about half of the college credits I need to finish my degree. I told them that I am willing to go anywhere they need me to Fo wise. So my question is, do you all think that not having a degree will be a major stumbling block when it comes to selections or will my experience counterbalance that? If any of you are air marshals currently please give me some input. My ASAIC did not think that it would hurt me that bad due to doing well in the other categories but he said anything could happen. What do some of you all think. I know all of this is in the Lords hands now anyway but its nice to get feedback from your peers who are going through the same thing. Thanks!

[bombguy]

Well as I said I finished everything at the Dallas FO and just waiting to here from DC on any info relating to the medical/backround. I got a question for the whole lot of you guys out there applying with me and please give me some feed back. I have both military and law enforcement experience. I did great on the panel and pretty good on the pta. I am young and have about half of the college credits I need to finish my degree. I told them that I am willing to go anywhere they need me to Fo wise. So my question is, do you all think that not having a degree will be a major stumbling block when it comes to selections or will my experience counterbalance that? If any of you are air marshals currently please give me some input. My ASAIC did not think that it would hurt me that bad due to doing well in the other categories but he said anything could happen. What do some of you all think. I know all of this is in the Lords hands now anyway but its nice to get feedback from your peers who are going through the same thing. Thanks!

I don't think that a B.S. or B.A. is a huge factor when they pick people. Me, for instance, I have 10 years Explosive Ordnance Disposal experience with one 7 month tour in Iraq. I have an associates degree as well....and will be starting my bachelors after I get settled at my field office. I think the military experience and combat experience play big roles...as well as previous LE experience too. I think they want people who aren't going to "vapor lock" during a real world situation...combat experience and LE experience are good indicators that you can handle stress IMO.

Just my .02!

[Up_On_Base]

Applied in Dec of 2005....I got my final offer this week:

EWR

.

To bad brother, EWR FO is a pretty cool place.

All the people I met were top notch, plus there is awesome pizza and bagels in that area.

But...cost of living/taxes are insane in NJ and tough place to raise a family. My wife is from Northern NJ, small 3bd homes are 500ish even in a bad market if you want a nice town.

Best of luck moving forward and do what is right for you/family.

[Rolla]

Well as I said I finished everything at the Dallas FO and just waiting to here from DC on any info relating to the medical/backround. I got a question for the whole lot of you guys out there applying with me and please give me some feed back. I have both military and law enforcement experience. I did great on the panel and pretty good on the pta. I am young and have about half of the college credits I need to finish my degree. I told them that I am willing to go anywhere they need me to Fo wise. So my question is, do you all think that not having a degree will be a major stumbling block when it comes to selections or will my experience counterbalance that? If any of you are air marshals currently please give me some input. My ASAIC did not think that it would hurt me that bad due to doing well in the other categories but he said anything could happen. What do some of you all think. I know all of this is in the Lords hands now anyway but its nice to get feedback from your peers who are going through the same thing. Thanks!


Having a degree doens't mean a thing in this position, your military and LE time is plenty. If you didnt have the lather and no degree then your chances would be minimal. But who knows the governement is something else when it comes to hiring.

[Rolla]

Applied in Dec of 2005....I got my final offer this week:

EWR

wtf over?

I am going to pass.

I have 4 kids, a wife, her business, 4 rental homes..there is no way I am going to EWR.

The thing that really kind of torques my ***** about this whole thing is that after I got done smoke checking the PTA...I was told by the SAIC and the ASAIC not to worry about the new annoucement and that they were going to be able to keep me DTW...So I didn't bother with the new announcement.

I am currently going through FLETC in Glynco for CBP..due to my past 16 years of Spec Op's, PMC and Aviation experience and ratings, etc...once I hit GS11, I 'should' be able to slide right into an Air Unit...So that is the plan. I will be a GS9 in 1 year and the OT, arrests and siezures in Detroit land border is going to keep me plenty busy.

If I start the new announcement now...I wont be able to do anything with it until I leave here in July...I have no desire to do back to back academy trips.

If the FAMS want me, they'll keep me and send me to DTW..if they dont, they don't....and I will move on. I am calling and sending emails on Monday to both field offices and HR.

I am one day closer today to my 6(C) retirement...TSP, my 30% and SS than I was yesterday...buying 9 years back as well.

Its good to have options :D.

I'll let you all know what happens this week...I am very content with what ever happens.

Anything is possible but after being in the FO this week I would hate to burst your bubble but DTW isn't a hard to fill office and EWR is and they are pretty sent on what they give you. But like I said anything is possible and I wish you luck. But if I was you and had all that experience, family stuff, and rental money coming in I would stick with what you are doing. But CBP doesn't have 6(C) retirement but they are fighting for it but whats an extra 5 years.

[GuyinCali]

Anything is possible but after being in the FO this week I would hate to burst your bubble but DTW isn't a hard to fill office and EWR is and they are pretty sent on what they give you. But like I said anything is possible and I wish you luck. But if I was you and had all that experience, family stuff, and rental money coming in I would stick with what you are doing. But CBP doesn't have 6(C) retirement but they are fighting for it but whats an extra 5 years.

What is DTW and EWR?

[Rolla]

What is DTW and EWR?

DTW-Detroit

EWR-Newark

They are airport codes

[jimjimjim]

People would actually want to go to Detroit? :o

[Rather_Static]

Anything is possible but after being in the FO this week I would hate to burst your bubble but DTW isn't a hard to fill office and EWR is and they are pretty sent on what they give you. But like I said anything is possible and I wish you luck. But if I was you and had all that experience, family stuff, and rental money coming in I would stick with what you are doing. But CBP doesn't have 6(C) retirement but they are fighting for it but whats an extra 5 years.

lol..no bubbles getting burst. I said I was content in passing on the FAMS...CBP is covered by 6(c) come July, I'll be covered...20 and wu for retirement...I am not sure what you mean by the extra 5 years...

I understand the whole 'triage' hiring...but if it for the service or the FO..then I am pretty sure I am staying put here in FLETC and skipping the FAMS..the promotions and the way the agency is moving/ changing is going to be pretty interesting with all the 'legacy' types pulling chaulks and gettting out due to retirement...I see CBP becoming much younger here as well over the next few years...I will be 35 next month..I feel like an old fart in class some days.

[Md094]

Thanks Static...I feel old now because I'm 35. :eek:

[Rolla]

lol..no bubbles getting burst. I said I was content in passing on the FAMS...CBP is covered by 6(c) come July, I'll be covered...20 and wu for retirement...I am not sure what you mean by the extra 5 years...

I understand the whole 'triage' hiring...but if it for the service or the FO..then I am pretty sure I am staying put here in FLETC and skipping the FAMS..the promotions and the way the agency is moving/ changing is going to be pretty interesting with all the 'legacy' types pulling chaulks and gettting out due to retirement...I see CBP becoming much younger here as well over the next few years...I will be 35 next month..I feel like an old fart in class some days.

Don't get me wrong I love the FAMS its just it is really hard to advance and I agree you should stay put you have a better chance where you are to move up especially because of your background.

[GuyinCali]

Just wanted to see, those who have not gotten EOD's, that are still pending EOD under the old announcement?

Sept. 06- First Applied
May 07- Panel Interview
March 08- Medical, UA, SAC Interview, & PTA.

[Lucky 317]

Whats the going time frame for the next step after you first apply on the website? Just curious, thanks

[Md094]

Whats the going time frame for the next step after you first apply on the website? Just curious, thanks

It could be fairly soon or could be awhile, there is no definite timeline. Good Luck!!!

[blueshield22]

I noticed that some of you who have completed the process were talking about your packet going to the board this day or that day. How did you guys find out when your packet was going before the hiring board???? Avue gives no information out what so ever!!! About how long after you completed your packets did you all hear anything and from who?

[Lucky 317]

I noticed that some of you who have completed the process were talking about your packet going to the board this day or that day. How did you guys find out when your packet was going before the hiring board???? Avue gives no information out what so ever!!! About how long after you completed your packets did you all hear anything and from who?


Thats what I'm trying to figure out myself...

[EWUCrimj]

Just out of curiousity, for those that have taken the PAT and watched other applicants take it at that time, what would you say the average score was? Some fair, some good? All good? Some excellent some good?

[GuyinCali]

Thats what I'm trying to figure out myself...

I finished all the steps on the old application. After my last step I was called by HR for copies of my DD214, that is the person that was ensuring my packet was complete before sending it to the hiring manager. I've called that person and was told it is now up to the hiring manager...

Praying for an EOD...

[firecop_22]

Just out of curiousity, for those that have taken the PAT and watched other applicants take it at that time, what would you say the average score was? Some fair, some good? All good? Some excellent some good?


There were 14 other guys doing the PAT when I was. Everyone was in pretty good shape. Over half of the guys had an overall score of "Excellent" the lowest overall score was "Good."

[bombguy]

I finished all the steps on the old application. After my last step I was called by HR for copies of my DD214, that is the person that was ensuring my packet was complete before sending it to the hiring manager. I've called that person and was told it is now up to the hiring manager...

Praying for an EOD...


Good luck man. That's exactly how mine went...9 days later, I was called! Since you're in Cali, maybe I'll see you at the LA FO on the 12th.

[jleclair]

does anyone know if I should call my field office if I haven't heard anything since the phone interview? It's been almost a month but I'm not sure if it would look good if I called them...

[FCAP_2008]

9 days later i wish it was that fast for me. I finsihed on 4/15/08 with the PTA, Panel, 2 Tests, SAC Interview, Drug Screen. The SAC Said I did pretty good on everything but not to put all my apples in one basket. He said I should apply for other Federal jobs too. Which I have done. I Did my Finger Prints on the 22nd so maybe the 9 day rule will start after that lol. I emailed my Field Office and he said My Packet was in DC. I did not do a Medical so im not sure if my packet is really in DC but thats what he said. Come on EOD.