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[SMOOTH149]

Kamkze, Thanks for the info, that's what I was looking for!

[Md094]

What are the PT test breakdowns for age 35 and 36?

Thanks in advance!

[Drew23]

Hey all, I've been monitoring this forum for a while as well, and this is my first time posting here. I recently completed the medical and was wondering approximately how long after completing the medical were you all notified to take the PTA?

Thanks

[UMDBulldog]

I was called 4 days later. Then I completed it the following day. Then called within 24 hours to do another drug screen. There are many factors that could change though. If someone has a day off, mail, meetings, training, etc. I wouldn't stress too much about it. Calls are starting to go out, and if they kept you from the old announcement, you should be just fine. BUT I understand what you're saying. I have my cell phone glued to my hip. Good luck! One thing though, if you DO get "the call" you MUST post on here ;). Well you don't have to, but it'd be appreciated by a LOT of people.

[Drew23]

Md094:

Here is the FAMS training guide, it has all the qualifications.

https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/pdf/OTD_Pre-Training_Guide.pdf

UMD:

Yea, all the sudden excitement and activity has me jumping at every phone call lol. It just stinks I had to bump my original medical back a week and a half to the next available appointment time they had because I came down with the flu.

[jlhill16]

If I get the "call " ,I wont have to post it here cause you will be able to hear me out yer window!!!! Is anyone else on here takin the pta on Tues?

[kamkze]

jlhill what part of Louisana you from? You doing your process out of NO?

[Md094]

Thanks for the info Drew23. Good luck with your process!

[nyguy1202]

I totally agree feedback is crucial, i was reading and getting motivated and learned alot from everyone else on here and when i got the call i was on like holy **** the magic 3 numbers are flashing on my phone. It was the last thing i was expecting when i got the call. I know the feeling of reading about other folks getting called and just waiting but hey we all have been in the same boat, keep checking your phones and emails and hopefully soon we all are able to meet at some point in this job. Time frames vary i have noticed alot from personal experience but they definatetly are fast tracking folks in comparison to how things where going before. Once the medical, PTA and transcript calls start coming and its all submitted and reaches the hiring panel withing a few weeks you should hear something. They told my group of 3 people who took out PTA withing 3 or 4 weeks we should hear something and it happened like that. One guy is still waiting because he had to complete an interview but all i can say is be as available as possible and get everything done as fast as you can on your side of the house. When i got the email for the medical at like 10am i called literally at 10:05am to schedule mines...so hope this helps a few out there.

[froggy]

got the call last week. will be starting next month.

good luck to everyone.

[jlhill16]

KAMKZE,
I drive from Shreveport,LA to ATL to do everything. Its only a brisk 11 hr drive(one way) but it's no big deal since gas is so cheap! I hope Tuesday will be the last time to make that drive and then hopefully I too will get the call. Congrats Froggy, what FO are you going to?

[marinecop2]

got the call last week. will be starting next month.

good luck to everyone.

What field office did you get?

[kamkze]

KAMKZE,
I drive from Shreveport,LA to ATL to do everything. Its only a brisk 11 hr drive(one way) but it's no big deal since gas is so cheap! I hope Tuesday will be the last time to make that drive and then hopefully I too will get the call. Congrats Froggy, what FO are you going to?

And I thought my 7 hour drive to Denver was bad. Isnt Dallas FO closer then Atl?

[USCG0123]

Got a question for you more experienced in the process. Had to do another medical 2 weeks ago, (had knee surgery since the last one) my knee is good but I got a letter for more documentation (as expected) my doc is sending it out this week. How long will this delay me? I'm only waiting for the PTA. Thanks

[kamkze]

Got a question for you more experienced in the process. Had to do another medical 2 weeks ago, (had knee surgery since the last one) my knee is good but I got a letter for more documentation (as expected) my doc is sending it out this week. How long will this delay me? I'm only waiting for the PTA. Thanks


As long as the FAM doc is ok with the documentation your doc sends them it should postpone much they will just have to adjudicate your new medical.

[copper02]

OK, I have been on here a few times, and am still waiting, I am done with everything, and just updated my application again today, how long have you guys had to wait after you update your application for "the call" or any call for that matter?

[Supersonic527]

OK, I have been on here a few times, and am still waiting, I am done with everything, and just updated my application again today, how long have you guys had to wait after you update your application for "the call" or any call for that matter?

A year and a half! :). Seriously, it's been that long for me.

[287cpd]

Can anyone tell me how quick they will contact you after you complete the application? My status is passed basic qualifications. Started the process 02/18/08. I am currently a certified police officer in a special operations unit.

[nyguy1202]

umm yeah back in the day id say it would take a long as time but now with the hiring rush its all depends on how they work, the FAMS work in mysterious ways

[kamkze]

Can anyone tell me how quick they will contact you after you complete the application? My status is passed basic qualifications. Started the process 02/18/08. I am currently a certified police officer in a special operations unit.

You are under the new announcement, so you will have to wait for them to stop hiring under old announcement then they will begin processing the new announcement,

[jlhill16]

I'm finally finished!(I hope) I did my PTA yesterday and it didnt kill me. The ten hour drive back almost did but I made it. I was told yesterday by the PTA instructor that they are now hiring off of the new announcement too! Take it for what it is. I am now in waiting mode and I hope the best for all of us.

[Brightshape]

Good luck, Jlhill16!:)

[juice1510]

Well it is rumored that they can not hire off the new announcement until they exhaust the old one first. This was given to me from a highly credible source!

[futurefed21]

for those of you who applied under the new announcement, i just got scheduled for my initial phone interview...but i applied very shortly after the announcement was made so im assuming they schedule appointments in chronological order of application. good luck all.

[kamkze]

Well it is rumored that they can not hire off the new announcement until they exhaust the old one first. This was given to me from a highly credible source!

I was told the same thing.

[kamkze]

for those of you who applied under the new announcement, i just got scheduled for my initial phone interview...but i applied very shortly after the announcement was made so im assuming they schedule appointments in chronological order of application. good luck all.


Phone interview, hmm I never had one of those. Well good luck with the process!

[thenagain]

for those of you who applied under the new announcement, i just got scheduled for my initial phone interview...but i applied very shortly after the announcement was made so im assuming they schedule appointments in chronological order of application. good luck all.

This would seem to negate the "exhaust the old list" first rumor. but who knows, what a strange organization...

[287cpd]

When did you apply?

[manstown]

I'll put this out there. I'm not with the FAMS anymore, but still keep in touch with some friends that are still there. They have told me that both lists are going to be used and those that are only on the upper portion of the old list are going to be hired. Now how many that is.....I and they don't know. But from what they were told it is less than 100 and than they are going to start the hiring process under the new announcement. Take it for what it's worth.

[kamkze]

This would seem to negate the "exhaust the old list" first rumor. but who knows, what a strange organization...


Maybe not because I was told that they couldnt hire off the new list until the old one closed, so they might be able to process, but only time will tell.

[jlhill16]

Thanks Brite! I hate to ask this question but will FAMS inform you if you dont make the cut or do you just sit by the phone forever? Also, if you dont have all excellent on the PT test do yall think that will disqualify you?

[dtown101]

Thanks Brite! I hate to ask this question but will FAMS inform you if you dont make the cut or do you just sit by the phone forever? Also, if you dont have all excellent on the PT test do yall think that will disqualify you?


They wont DQ you based on your pta...i know some of my friends who are fams did not do too well on the test.....

panel interview aug 4 2006
2nd interview w-ASAC aug 4 2006
drug screening aug 4 2006
psyche screening aug 4 2006
pta aug 4 2006
finger prints (live scan) aug 4 2006

I did all of my processing in one day and I have half of the training (fed leo)
and still no call. apparently if you are a non-fed leo your chances are much better because it looks like they are doing the majority of hiring for people not in the federal system....good luck to all....

[287cpd]

Can anyone tell me what the number next to series meansi.e 1801/13?

[dtown101]

Can anyone tell me what the number next to series meansi.e 1801/13?

its the highest pay band.....1801 is the type of classification and 13 is the highest pay band remember the G H and I band same thing (i think)

[bakes1213]

I recently applied to the latest announcement and just completed my phone interview... Any ideas for what comes next?

[287cpd]

I recently applied to the latest announcement and just completed my phone interview... Any ideas for what comes next?

When did you apply?

[bakes1213]

i applied in December 07 and got a call out of the blue last week.

[kamkze]

i applied in December 07 and got a call out of the blue last week.

The new posting didnt open until 1/18/08.

[Up_On_Base]

Ok you are in the same bracket as me, so for the

RUN

under 10:17 is excellent, 10:17 to 11:41 is good, 11:42 to 12:51 is fair, 12:52to 14:13 is poor and over 14:13 very poor.

PULLUPS

over 10 excel., 9-10 good, 7-8 fair, 5-6 poor and under 5 very poor

SITUPS

over 46 excel., 42-46 good, 38-41 fair, 33-37 poor and under 33 very poor

PUSHUPS

over 54 excel., 50-54 good, 46-49 fair, 38- 45 poor and under 38 very poor

hope that helps

It's amazing how much influence the USSS has on FAMS, the PT breakdown is very close to USSS.

Granted they are similar jobs, the aircraft is your protectee...

[datfas]

Hey I got the call back in Jan for the NYC field office, I start in April...my school date is in May in Atlantic City, since I already went to FLETC. Good luck to all.

[horse]

usss retired agents often are the agent in charge of many FAM field offices across the country, that could be why possibly.

[Quick2352]

The new announcement came out on a Friday, my application was in by monday. Realistically, when does anyone think my process will start?

[horse]

anyone know how important the pta is in hte selection process,what if your not a great runner but pretty good at the rest of the areas.i have always trained for power and short burst sprint ect,not really long distance.any help would be great

[Squared Away]

anyone know how important the pta is in hte selection process,what if your not a great runner but pretty good at the rest of the areas.i have always trained for power and short burst sprint ect,not really long distance.any help would be great

1.5 miles is not long distance

[horse]

i understand that,but i would also say bench pressing over 315 for multiple reps is not alot of weight.meaning i have not trained for the run,should have but it just was not part of my cardio routine.and for those who have not trained for the 1.5 miles with a time limit it will not be a easy task.was just looking for a little info on the matter.

[kamkze]

1.5 miles is not long distance

Everything is relative to certain individuals, to a sprinter 1.5 miles is long distance. To me the pushups pull ups and situps are a joke, to others the run is a joke and i am sure to some the whole pta is easy. It all just depends what your strengths are.

[kamkze]

i understand that,but i would also say bench pressing over 315 for multiple reps is not alot of weight.meaning i have not trained for the run,should have but it just was not part of my cardio routine.and for those who have not trained for the 1.5 miles with a time limit it will not be a easy task.was just looking for a little info on the matter.


I dont know how everything is weighted but I am sure they expect people to not get excellents on all four.

[jlhill16]

Having just taken the PTA last week, I can assure you if you arent in shape, 1.5 miles is a loooong way(due to inclimate weather we had to run on a tread mill) If it would have been the 40 yd dash very few people could hang with me but 1.5 mile sucks. To those that are going to take it in the future make sure you prepare yourself. I ran a mile every night for about two weeks and I still scored in the poor(13:42)range. Good Luck to all applicants!

[kamkze]

Having just taken the PTA last week, I can assure you if you arent in shape, 1.5 miles is a loooong way(due to inclimate weather we had to run on a tread mill) If it would have been the 40 yd dash very few people could hang with me but 1.5 mile sucks. To those that are going to take it in the future make sure you prepare yourself. I ran a mile every night for about two weeks and I still scored in the poor(13:42)range. Good Luck to all applicants!


I hope I get to run mine on a treadmill, I know my pace and can keep it much easier as well (obviously), fortunately for me I get paid to workout on shift so I do my 1.5 everyday at work. Well good luck to all.

[Squared Away]

i understand that,but i would also say bench pressing over 315 for multiple reps is not alot of weight.meaning i have not trained for the run,should have but it just was not part of my cardio routine.and for those who have not trained for the 1.5 miles with a time limit it will not be a easy task.was just looking for a little info on the matter.

My fault for being so short. Your best bet leading up to the PTA is interval training. Got to a track. 6 laps is a 1.5 miles. Sprint a lap, walk a lap, sprint a lap, walk a lap, etc. It will build up your endurance quickly.

I have taken several PT Tests in the last 6 months and leading up to them this is what I did and it really helped. You can also google interval training for some variations of this and you will find alot of information.

[horse]

thanks all,this is the info i was looking for.it just kinda tuff for alot of people who have been a career and thought is was (it)meaning as good as it might get for them.then they decided to change carrers. for me the pta was sprung on me,was not ready for it.but i am always and totally ready for what happens in the career i have now.i guess it teaches you to keep yourself in all around shape reguardless.should have known better

[froggy]

What field office did you get?

Los Angeles

[UMDBulldog]

I got "the call" today. Trying to decide...

[jlhill16]

CMON DOG!!!! HAHA....If you turn it down give them my number!!!!!!LOL

[kamkze]

I got "the call" today. Trying to decide...
Well first off congrats!! What field office did they offer? What are you trying to decide on?

[UMDBulldog]

I had two offers almost at the same time. FAMS- Motor city.

[jlhill16]

Well at least you will be armed in Detroit!!!!!! LOL

[ProcessingFAM]

I have been watching this forum for a while know. It's good to see that alot of you guys have got ur calls or are moving along in the process. I started the process back in Oct 2006. I finished everything in Feb 2008. I am know just waiting for my call from headquarters. I have a friend who got the call for the next class comin up in April. For those of you who are still in the process good luck, and for those of you who are still waiting I hope to see you in the future.

[USCG0123]

anyone take the PAT in NY recently? Got mine scheduled hear everyone does it different treadmill /track/ pullups/ chin ups. Would like to know how they do it.

[UMDBulldog]

I applied my senior year in college in Jan of 2007. I got the call early this morning. I have 48-72 hours to decide. Uff da

[Supersonic527]

Damn. Everyone's getting that call but me! Congrats UMDBulldog.

[gonefishin]

I had two offers almost at the same time. FAMS- Motor city.

What was the other offer?

[Patrio72]

I had two offers almost at the same time. FAMS- Motor city.

If you say yes to Detroit, you will get a great house for little money. There are soooo many foreclosures!

PM me if you have questions. I have been in the "mitten state" almost my whole life.

Patriot72

[copper02]

UMD, check your PM

[horse]

detroit does have a nice airport,look on the bright side i guess right.bulldog, im sure many people would love to be in your shoes.

[UMDBulldog]

Appreciate all of the positive feedback. It's certainly hard to sleep right now. I just want to make sure Detroit is the best place.

[jlhill16]

Good Luck bro. You will be fine whichever way you choose!

[VCSOMotor91]

Has anyone heard anything new on the new announcement?

[nyguy1202]

Appreciate all of the positive feedback. It's certainly hard to sleep right now. I just want to make sure Detroit is the best place.
congrats brother, might see you at the school house in may if you decide to go for it. I am in the NYFO.

Best of luck

[Drew23]

Appreciate all of the positive feedback. It's certainly hard to sleep right now. I just want to make sure Detroit is the best place.


Congrats on the offer. If your head tells you Detroit would be best for you, then Detroit is probably the best place. Good luck in the academy.

[knightrider26]

Congrats buddy,
I will see you in training. Good luck to the rest of you out there waiting. Your time is coming. Keep ya heads up.

[horse]

does anyone have the address for the boston/chelsea field office for FAMS.please pm me if you have it.cant find it anywhere and gotta be there friday.

[jlhill16]

Can anyone tell me when my background check will begin? (calling old bosses and such) I finished the PTA last week and was wondering when that process will begin.

[DVAK9SP]

does anyone have the address for the boston/chelsea field office for FAMS.please pm me if you have it.cant find it anywhere and gotta be there friday.

Horse,

I have been there several times and also have to be there on Friday. It is programmed into my GPS, and I will get to you sometime tonight.

[DVAK9SP]

Ok,

I’ve checked this site periodically over the past two years. I applied back in 2006 and received the call just recently asking if I would accept a position with FAMS . However, being in the process as long as I have been and with the report to date fast approaching; and they’re still having me duplicate paperwork. I am skeptical whether or not they will actually have everything complete for the end of the month.

So my question is to the rest of you who have received a report to date of the end of this month; are they still requesting paperwork from all of you?

[nyguy1202]

Ok,

I’ve checked this site periodically over the past two years. I applied back in 2006 and received the call just recently asking if I would accept a position with FAMS . However, being in the process as long as I have been and with the report to date fast approaching; and they’re still having me duplicate paperwork. I am skeptical whether or not they will actually have everything complete for the end of the month.

So my question is to the rest of you who have received a report to date of the end of this month; are they still requesting paperwork from all of you?
i have not got any calls to duplicate anything but in my interactions with new hires like myself and FAMS that have been on the job for a while it seems that things vary alot so there is no steady process on how things should go for the most part..but hey i guess it is what it is...best of luck to you in a few years it will all be worth it. Go with your gut, i applied back in aug of 05 so i know the headache but im glad the call came, it came at a good time for me.

[Necktie]

I got the call for the Boston field office. I start in March 30th and the school date is May.

Applied: 08/2005

Best of Luck

[UMDBulldog]

Anyone going to Detroit this round? Anyone already work in Detroit FO? I would like to contact someone. Would someone be willing to send me a PM with contact info?

[MPtoLEO]

This might be a dumb question, but do you have to live in a city with a feild office? Being in the consulting industry I live in Florida, but work in New Mexico, Va, etc...

If you do have to live in a city with a feild office how do FAMs work flights from other cities. For instance there is not a FO in Jaxsonville, Fl, but it a busy AP and has originating flights.

[gonefishin]

This might be a dumb question, but do you have to live in a city with a feild office? Being in the consulting industry I live in Florida, but work in New Mexico, Va, etc...

If you do have to live in a city with a feild office how do FAMs work flights from other cities. For instance there is not a FO in Jaxsonville, Fl, but it a busy AP and has originating flights.


Most FO's require that you live within 2 hours of the office. All of your flights will originate out of your home airport. (you can't commute like flight crews do....FAMS can't deadhead for free).

[MPtoLEO]

Most FO's require that you live within 2 hours of the office. All of your flights will originate out of your home airport. (you can't commute like flight crews do....FAMS can't deadhead for free).

Well that sucks! So you would have to drive 2 hours everyday to get on the flight?

[kamkze]

Well that sucks! So you would have to drive 2 hours everyday to get on the flight?

Yes if you choose to live 2 hours from the Field Office, or you could live 15 min and only have to drive 15 min each day.

[gonefishin]

Yes if you choose to live 2 hours from the Field Office, or you could live 15 min and only have to drive 15 min each day.

Or you could be like Tom Hanks in The Terminal and live in the airport terminal and not have to drive at all!

[knightrider26]

DVAK9SP,
I received the same offer. It's pretty much standard. Depending on when you last did the PTA and medical, they just want to get an assessment before they bring you on. Therefore, if you have a EOD, you should pretty much base everything off of that date.

[kamkze]

Or you could be like Tom Hanks in The Terminal and live in the airport terminal and not have to drive at all!

Now thats my kind of commute.

[JHoss]

I have a question for you guys who have been hired recently (and congrats by the way! ). How long after your PTA was "the call"? I have my PTA a week from today, and am just trying to have somewhat of a realistic time table even though I know it is different for everyone. After the PTA, is that when the background begins?

[knightrider26]

JHoss
I did my PTA last year in January and received the call 2 weeks ago. Others received calls 1 week after. So there's really no telling when you will get the call. Your recruiter who conducts the PTA will have a better knowledge as to when they may call. When I did mine it was a budget crisis and also a hiring freeze so that's why it took so long for me. Just be patient bro your time is coming soon.

[Brightshape]

Congrats to those of you who just received offers! See you guys in April/May.;)

[DVAK9SP]

I started looking for places in the NY area. Not having much luck; plenty of places just not that many that are affordable. Currently I live 30 minutes from Boston. I would have liked to have received Boston but after waiting 2 years I'm going to where ever they want to send me.

[kamkze]

Just received my call for the PTA 30 min ago, I have to be at Denver FO tomm morning at 9:30 am. 7 hour drive here I come.

[UMDBulldog]

Good luck tomorrow. Anyone else going to Detroit? I am having a tough time trying to figure out where I can leave my car for the time I will be at training?

[JHoss]

Kamkze... LUCKY!!! I got scheduled like 2 weeks out in advance for mine. Still have another week before it. I'd much rather go in the next day

[Milagro303]

UMD -
While in training, I would suggest any local secure storage facility. You can figure roughly 300 or so for the duration of your training- depending on the size of your vehicle. PM me if you have further questions.

[robousmc]

i have been reading this post for a while and was wondering if any one can answer a question. How long did it take after submitting your application until you got your COE?

[juice1510]

bulldog have you received any of my messages!

[kamkze]

Well I took the PTA today and it went excellent, now I guess I just sit and wait.

[robousmc]

I see most of you got your COE the same month you applied. How many days average until you know the outcome. Any answer will help.

[nyguy1202]

I see most of you got your COE the same month you applied. How many days average until you know the outcome. Any answer will help.
I honestly do not even remember just because it has been almost 3 years since I applied but there have also been a lot of issues with the hiring freeze and things like that so I couldn’t gage how things would go now. All I can say is stay on top of whatever they ask of you and get it in as soon as you can on your side of the house. I always moved like lighting for whatever was needed. If it was documents they had in within the hour, a medical I was available the same day if possible. Good luck to you.

[robousmc]

Thanks for the info. I hope that I can at least get some news so I can start the process or move on..well thanks again.

[kamkze]

Thanks for the info. I hope that I can at least get some news so I can start the process or move on..well thanks again.

When did you apply?

[robousmc]

I started the application process last month but it took me a while to track down all the required documents. I submitted last week. I am transitioning out of the military and trying to find good federal job. Reading this forum has made me optimistic and worried that by july I will have to find a different job while waiting for the hiring process to move along.

[kamkze]

Well they are just now doing phone interviews, I dont know if people are getting COE's before phone interviews. Getting hired by July would be quick but not impossible. They are hiring roughly 450 FAMS this year.

[uwfsam2000]

I just recently applied also, figured with my schooling and some experiance i might as well try. Hope to meet some of you all. Btw, it asks for my transcripts, but doesnt give me a mailing address, if I mail i to myself then bring it if i get an interview is that okay, what did you all do? I just recently finished my application, what happens next? Im excited here. how about you all

[IowaDPTY]

Just got the call for a job offer for Newark, NJ. Could someone who knows something about this area or has already been hired please PM me with their phone number and/or email address.

[JDKVMI]

I applied well over a year ago. Then for some reason was told by Avue to re-apply earlier this year. I had a phone interview today with the DC FO. Does anyone know whats in store for me next? PTA or is the panel interview before?

Also, what is COE?

How was the PTA, hard or not too bad? I heard something like you may not have to "pass" but be in a close range of passing, but by the end of FLETC you have to pass no matter what. Is that true? Seems odd. I work out and go to the gym but never really practiced the tests, I just figured if I'm in decent shape I'll pass.

[Patrio72]

COE = Conditional Offer of Employment

PTA includes pull-ups, sit-ups, pushups and a 1.5 mile timed run.
Your goal should be all excellents for the PTA.

Search through this thread for the prep guide and good luck!

Patriot72

[kamkze]

I applied well over a year ago. Then for some reason was told by Avue to re-apply earlier this year. I had a phone interview today with the DC FO. Does anyone know whats in store for me next? PTA or is the panel interview before?

Also, what is COE?

How was the PTA, hard or not too bad? I heard something like you may not have to "pass" but be in a close range of passing, but by the end of FLETC you have to pass no matter what. Is that true? Seems odd. I work out and go to the gym but never really practiced the tests, I just figured if I'm in decent shape I'll pass.

The PTA isnt too bad. There is no pass or fail on the PTA it is just an assesment of your current conditioning. Just dont forget about the run, make sure you get some running in.

[JDKVMI]

Thanks for the help!

[Quick2352]

Just got the call for a job offer for Newark, NJ. Could someone who knows something about this area or has already been hired please PM me with their phone number and/or email address.

When did you apply? I'm trying to get back to Newark. My coworker applied after I did and was set up for a phone interview next week. I'm still waiting.

[marinecop2]

Just got the call for a job offer for Newark, NJ. Could someone who knows something about this area or has already been hired please PM me with their phone number and/or email address.


I also got the call for Newark a couple weeks ago. Check your PM.

[uwfsam2000]

anyone know that could assist me, just confused at the process, and eager!

[manstown]

anyone know that could assist me, just confused at the process, and eager!

Just have them sent to you. The only time you'll need them you'll be called to fax them in. On the Avue Application site there should be a fax or mailing address to send them. But the only time I needed them was when the FAMS called and asked.

As for the timelines and the next steps, and CO's and when they all happen is different for everyone. So aasking when this step or next will happen, no one can tell you. The only people that can tell you when the next steps will come along are the people with FAMS HR or HQ.

[Sheep Dog]

Well I took the PTA today and it went excellent, now I guess I just sit and wait.

Were you the guy with the shaved head sitting in the break room for a while? Just curious as I was in the office with my team for a training day yesterday.

[kamkze]

Were you the guy with the shaved head sitting in the break room for a while? Just curious as I was in the office with my team for a training day yesterday.

Yeah that was me, did you come in the break room?

[DVAK9SP]

Is there anyone, living, moving, or who has recently moved to NY know of any cheap housing or at least something short term from March 30 to April 25. I have a house in NH and will not be selling it based on the fact my wife and kids will be staying there while I'm in school. So any help would be appreciated.

[Sheep Dog]

Yeah that was me, did you come in the break room?

Ya I was one of the ones eating lunch in there. Small world.

[kamkze]

Ya I was one of the ones eating lunch in there. Small world.


Most definately!

[froggy]

Is there anyone, living, moving, or who has recently moved to NY know of any cheap housing or at least something short term from March 30 to April 25. I have a house in NH and will not be selling it based on the fact my wife and kids will be staying there while I'm in school. So any help would be appreciated.

Sounds from your time line we will be in class together. Will be there at FO until the 25th. See you for orientation.

[Supersonic527]

Anyone know of any new hires going to DC?

[287cpd]

Anyone know an estimated time frame they call you after notifying you to expect the phone interview?

[VCSOMotor91]

Hey, Got an E-MAIL advising me that they will be contacting me in reference to a phone interview soon. Anybody else get one of these recently? I applied to the new announcement about 6 weeks ago.

[Rather_Static]

Appreciate all of the positive feedback. It's certainly hard to sleep right now. I just want to make sure Detroit is the best place.

FWIW, I started this whole process back in Dec of 2005. I did my interview in 2007..I am doing my medical tomorrow...then hopefully, the PTA...

I live in SE Michigan and I would take the Detroit office in a half a heat beat. I know two FAMs there in the Detroit office and they like the office.

Detroit is the office I want.

Good luck and congrats, semper fi.

[Up_On_Base]

Hey, Got an E-MAIL advising me that they will be contacting me in reference to a phone interview soon. Anybody else get one of these recently? I applied to the new announcement about 6 weeks ago.

Got the same email, I guess this is from the recent announcement not the previous one in June 07.

Anyone know how many new FAMS form this list expect to be hired?

[Md094]

I received the email today also, so I'm trying not to get too excited. :)

[VCSOMotor91]

I think the ball is in motion. The only thing I am wondering about is what kind of questions and how in depth will this phone interview go? Well good luck to all and lets keep each other informed. Hey, we might be classmates in Artesia, in the desert, dry hot heat. Been there done that. 29 Palms, Cali CAX 1997. You Leathernecks know what Im talking about.

[thenagain]

new poster, I too received the email about being contacted regarding a phone interview. cautiously optimistic....

[EWUCrimj]

The email i received had a subject line of:

Re: Vacancy Announcement Federal Air Marshal, Federal Air Marshal SV-1801-13

Does the 1801-13 mean there is promotional opportunity up to level 13, level 13 is the level I applied OR the level that I qualified for?

They sent me this email 13 times in 3 minutes, which I found strange.‏

[thenagain]

The email i received had a subject line of:

Re: Vacancy Announcement Federal Air Marshal, Federal Air Marshal SV-1801-13

Does the 1801-13 mean there is promotional opportunity up to level 13, level 13 is the level I applied OR the level that I qualified for?

They sent me this email 13 times in 3 minutes, which I found strange.‏

Same thing happened to me...gotta love AVUE.

[EWUCrimj]

just got 7 more emails...... this is getting slightly annoying now. I mean, I'm usually glad to hear ANYTHING in the federal hiring process, but.......

[The Jackal]

Yeap ... just got 5 of the same e-mails. A partner of mine got them as well. We're both going to be testing out of the NY area. Curious about how many people are already in the Fed system ... specifically DHS that are now FAM applicants. I'd be curious to find out if DHS streamlines the process for those already in DHS. My gut tells me no, but the current TS clearance and current DHS medical should account for something. You'd think anyway ...

[Luko]

Got my e-mail at about 1 or 2 am this morning...excited to say the least!

[kamkze]

I just received an email with three attachments, a Declaration of Federal Employment Form, a finger print instructions page, and a background info page. Has anyone still in the process off the old announcement received this? I just finished my PTA last week and thought I was done except for the hiring board, guess not. The second two attachments wont open so I have Avue resending them to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[shawal16]

Hey, Got an E-MAIL advising me that they will be contacting me in reference to a phone interview soon. Anybody else get one of these recently? I applied to the new announcement about 6 weeks ago.


I have also received this email. I am starting to believe it is just a generic email sent to everyone that meant the basic qualifications. But ill keep my fingers crossed.

[futurefed21]

i received the same email AFTER i already had my phone interview so i guess the AVUE system is moving slower than the FAMS themselves lol

[Quick2352]

Hey, Got an E-MAIL advising me that they will be contacting me in reference to a phone interview soon. Anybody else get one of these recently? I applied to the new announcement about 6 weeks ago.

I got that email too. A coworker of mine got a phone call from a recuiter at the D.C. field office and scheduled his phone interview for tomorrow. He applied a week after I did.

[VCSOMotor91]

Yeah that 1 am e-mail was strange. I guess the more you get shows how much they really want you. I only got 2, not as luck as EWUCrimj with 13 WOW!!!

[shawal16]

i received the same email AFTER i already had my phone interview so i guess the AVUE system is moving slower than the FAMS themselves lol

Did you apply on the recent announcement? or prior announcements?

[futurefed21]

new announcement

[RED DRAGON]

I applied under both annoucements and completed the pt test last month and waiting for the call.

I received a email today stating they will contact me soon to schedule a phone interview. Is does not make any sense to me.

[shawal16]

new announcement

Me too I see your from NJ. Did you apply for the Atlantic City Office?

[JHoss]

I have a question regarding the PTA. I have my PTA scheduled tomorrow morning, and have seen where others have said they had a SAC interview following the test. I do not have an interview scheduled tomorrow, so is this interview a formal part of the process that I will have to go back again to do?

[robousmc]

i got the e-mail saying they will contact me for a phone interview. This is the first sign of life on their end...so i'm kinds stoked...

[robousmc]

just read back a few posts....e-mail looks like everyone got it.....not feeling so special anymore..actually feeling less special since some people got it 13 TIMES...

[The Jackal]

just read back a few posts....e-mail looks like everyone got it.....not feeling so special anymore..actually feeling less special since some people got it 13 TIMES...


Eh ... I look at it this way ... they got it 13 times because the agency felt that based on their application scores they wouldn't undertsand it the first 12 times. The fewer the messages means a higher score, which means higher on the list! :D

Yes? no? :D lol

[Luko]

LOL nice! It could be an e-mail for each band you qualified for? Then a duplicate for each or those?

[futurefed21]

Me too I see your from NJ. Did you apply for the Atlantic City Office?

hey whats up...nope i applied for Newark/NYC...good luck buddy!

[Md094]

Yep, I'm feeling a little less excited after reading so many people got the message about the phone interview. I believe I have ended up with 10 messages now.

[The Jackal]

Yep, I'm feeling a little less excited after reading so many people got the message about the phone interview. I believe I have ended up with 10 messages now.

Didn't understand it the first nine times huh? :D HA! You're in the middle of the list buddy! :D

Myself and two others I work with are testing out of NYC. I'll post up any movement on my end if it happens.

[Md094]

I believe the more messages you get is a better sign because it shows they want me even more!

[Tachibana]

I just got the email and it made my day.

[brettb21]

jus did the phone interview a bit ago...lets hope the process keeps rolling for everyone~! good luck :D

[VCSOMotor91]

jus did the phone interview a bit ago...lets hope the process keeps rolling for everyone~! good luck :D

How long did it take? Was it scheduled or did you just receive a phone call and they started an interview?

[brettb21]

was scheduled....duration all depends on your answers i guess!:D

[IC74]

I just received an email with three attachments, a Declaration of Federal Employment Form, a finger print instructions page, and a background info page. Has anyone still in the process off the old announcement received this? I just finished my PTA last week and thought I was done except for the hiring board, guess not. The second two attachments wont open so I have Avue resending them to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I just got the same email.

[Fed283]

I recieved my 8 or 10 emails yesterday as well. I have a friend that is a Air Mashal, I am going to call him to see if he can give some info. I'll let everyone know what he says.

[FormerUSAF]

I applied in the beginning of Feb and got called on Feb 29 for a phone interview. Did the interview on Mar 02 and recieved the email yesterday saying I would be called for a phone interview. The interview took about 35 or 40 min.

[Fed283]

I applied in the beginning of Feb and got called on Feb 29 for a phone interview. Did the interview on Mar 02 and recieved the email yesterday saying I would be called for a phone interview. The interview took about 35 or 40 min.


What you just happened to be home and the phone just rang and they did the interview or did they call and set-up a time and you completed it then?
Finally what was the interview ...i.e questions asked, etc?

[FormerUSAF]

I got home on Friday and they ASAC called me about 5pm and asked if I were still interested and when could I do the phone interview. I said the weekends would be good or some time after 6pm, so he scheduled it that sunday. They basically ask generic interview questions.

[brettb21]

interview cant be discussed....

[FormerUSAF]

Yeah they give a disclaimer during the interview not to discuss the process of the interview or what goes on, but its really nothing to worry about.

[kamkze]

I just got the same email.

Have you completed the whole process or what part of the process are you in?

--Jake

[froggy]

Good luck to all you guys. Old froggy gonna see you all eventually.

[IC74]

Have you completed the whole process or what part of the process are you in?

--Jake

I applied back in 06, re-certified my application a few times, had a panel interview in June of 07 and just had my medical last week. I also got an email at the beginning of February say to reapply under this new announcement so I did but the medical and this recent email was for the old announcement.

[kamkze]

I applied back in 06, re-certified my application a few times, had a panel interview in June of 07 and just had my medical last week. I also got an email at the beginning of February say to reapply under this new announcement so I did but the medical and this recent email was for the old announcement.

Yeah sounds like we are in about the same posistion. Have you taken the PTA yet?

[ofcmil]

Here's my timeline:
Aug '06 COE
Jan '07 interview / Drug test
Mar '08 medical
This is where it gets confusing
Mar '08 recieved email to start e-qip

Out of all the posts I have seen, nobody has gone through this without getting a call first.

[kamkze]

Here's my timeline:
Aug '06 COE
Jan '07 interview / Drug test
Mar '08 medical
This is where it gets confusing
Mar '08 recieved email to start e-qip

Out of all the posts I have seen, nobody has gone through this without getting a call first.

What kind of call are you talking about?

[nyguy1202]

its all backwards i tell ya, i am waiting for the eqip email, which is when they officially start the TS clearance so your guess is as good as mines. I got the call but no eqip email....gotta love the federal way.

[kamkze]

its all backwards i tell ya, i am waiting for the eqip email, which is when they officially start the TS clearance so your guess is as good as mines. I got the call but no eqip email....gotta love the federal way.

I havent gotten the call but I already have a clearance and they still had me redo the QNSP. Who knows.

[Md094]

Anyone gotten a phone interview after the email spam went out this week?

[IC74]

Yeah sounds like we are in about the same posistion. Have you taken the PTA yet?

No I haven't taken the PTA yet. I guess that will be coming up.....sometime in the future.

[The Jackal]

Anyone gotten a phone interview after the email spam went out this week?

Not in NY.

[Rather_Static]

I got my BI cleared, today, but not by the FAMS...it was done by DHS for CBP...is this one good for the FAMS?

CBPO is a last option of mine as I only want to get into an Air Branch with CBP and not at an airport stamping passports until I am an 11..but anyway...what can be done with that approved BI besides CBP? All the gigs I have seen with CBP air have been for incumbents or GS11's and higher...

I got my medical done this week..bring on the PTA!

[Quick2352]

Anyone gotten a phone interview after the email spam went out this week?

Not yet. Still anxiously waiting. :eek:

[Love_Ulcer]

I got my BI cleared, today, but not by the FAMS...it was done by DHS for CBP...is this one good for the FAMS?

CBPO is a last option of mine as I only want to get into an Air Branch with CBP and not at an airport stamping passports until I am an 11..but anyway...what can be done with that approved BI besides CBP? All the gigs I have seen with CBP air have been for incumbents or GS11's and higher...

I got my medical done this week..bring on the PTA!

Well, unless you're going to "bleed green", that BI pretty much won't do any good anywhere else...

At least you have a full packet ready to go for your next BI, whatever agency that may be.

[kamkze]

what is a "BI"

[Fed283]

BI is a Background Investigation

[kamkze]

BI is a Background Investigation


Thought that might be it. Thanks

[Fed283]

A very thick packet is what you have to fill out. I still have the one I filled out when I first went to work for the Feds.

[kamkze]

A very thick packet is what you have to fill out. I still have the one I filled out when I first went to work for the Feds.

Yeah the QNSP, I have filled it out several times. I currently have a clearance. Atleast you can fill it out on the computer now instead of by hand. I keep every copy of it I fill out, it makes filling future ones out much easier.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

My days are normally the same when living the life as a federal air marshal. With the exception of flight delays and a few passengers who drink to much while in flight it is normally uneventful. I am going to tell you how my normal two day trip is. Some of you may find it boring but for the number of you aspiring air marshals read carefully. We do not do felony traffic stops or kick down any doors. The training is top notch and high speed. I have a saying, “We get paid the big bucks for that one second you may have to actually go to work.”

I am scheduled to be at the airport at 0900. I live about 45 minutes to the airport so I plan for any traffic delays. I pack my bag the night before for the two day trip. I pack light because I do not check any luggage in for obvious reasons. I get out of bed at 0630 so I can eat breakfast and see my kids before my wife takes them to school. I am dressed and out the door at 0800.

I get to the parking garage of the airport at about 0855. I take my time looking for that parking space that will give me all the defense from door dings. I work my way into the airport and walk up to the kiosk machine and get my boarding pass. I then get cash out of the atm and grab the paper. And I then walk to security where I normally get ****ed off 50 percent of the time. I will not get into how I bypass security but it is a pain in the rear and it does not take an idiot to see how I get passed security.

Once the TSA screener has already blown my cover I get passed him finally and walk into the terminal. I go to the bathroom for one last check to see that I have all my equipment and take that last look to see if I look good for the women I may meet on the flight.

Now I am walking on the flight and fighting with all the other passengers trying to get a space for my bag in the over head compartment. Some passengers will just about kill you for a space close to their seats and it gets me going. I try to hold back my anger because I have learned that it is a losing battle for me.

I am now in my seat and praying that a passenger does not ask me to move so they can sit with a friend or family member. We finally taxi away from the gate and we are wheels up on time.

We are about 30 minutes into the flight and the passenger behinds me does the sling shot seat move to my head. Let me explain. The fat guy behind me is so fat that he can not get out of his seat with out grabbing the head rest of my seat. Now when he does this the action makes my head sling shot back then violently forward once he releases it. This really gets me worked up and I have many of times imagined myself taking out my ASP and striking him in the knees.

About 30 minutes later the fat passenger in front of me does the breaking your lap top move. Let me explain. The passenger will press the recline button on his seat and use all of his 400 lbs of strength and violently recline his seat all the way back into the top of my lap top. Now this just about breaks my lap top and really gets me worked up once again. I have a move that I like to use when this happens. It is called the cold air move. Let me explain. Once the passenger has his seat so far back that I can give him a shave, I will turn on the air vent and aim it towards the top of his bald head. This move gets one of three results. 1) He will turn around and ask me to turn off the vent, 2) He will recline his seat a little forward, 3) He will do nothing and his head will get real cold and I laugh inside.

I land at my first stop of a two leg trip. Once we taxi to the gate it is off to the races. As soon as the fasten seat belt light turns off all the passengers jump out of their seats like it was to save their lives. They rush to the isles pushing one another and stepping on small children. Now this also gets me worked up and on many occasions I have wanted to pull out my gun and yell,” Sit back down until I get my bag!”.

I get off the plane after only being pushed once and make my way to the food area the get a high price lunch. I eat healthy and this is a challenger to find some other food other then burgers and fries. I eat and get my ticket for the next 3 hour flight to our nation’s capital. The flight is the same as the one before and the passengers are up to their old tricks and moves. Every day I try to defend against these moves and so far I have not lost my mind in the process.

This is a typical day for me and at the end of the second leg I wait 30 minutes for the hotel shuttle to the Hilton hotel. Once I get to the hotel the front desk tells me that my room will not be ready for another hour. So I get worked up again and just suck it up and sit on the couch untill they call me. I hope you now see what I deal with every day and it is just about the same everyday. Have fun guys and good luck in getting on with the air marshal service.
__________________
Promote confidence in our Nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers and crews

[Up_On_Base]

My days are normally the same when living the life as a federal air marshal. With the exception of flight delays and a few passengers who drink to much while in flight it is normally uneventful. I am going to tell you how my normal two day trip is. Some of you may find it boring but for the number of you aspiring air marshals read carefully. We do not do felony traffic stops or kick down any doors. The training is top notch and high speed. I have a saying, “We get paid the big bucks for that one second you may have to actually go to work.”

I am scheduled to be at the airport at 0900. I live about 45 minutes to the airport so I plan for any traffic delays. I pack my bag the night before for the two day trip. I pack light because I do not check any luggage in for obvious reasons. I get out of bed at 0630 so I can eat breakfast and see my kids before my wife takes them to school. I am dressed and out the door at 0800.

I get to the parking garage of the airport at about 0855. I take my time looking for that parking space that will give me all the defense from door dings. I work my way into the airport and walk up to the kiosk machine and get my boarding pass. I then get cash out of the atm and grab the paper. And I then walk to security where I normally get ****ed off 50 percent of the time. I will not get into how I bypass security but it is a pain in the rear and it does not take an idiot to see how I get passed security.

Once the TSA screener has already blown my cover I get passed him finally and walk into the terminal. I go to the bathroom for one last check to see that I have all my equipment and take that last look to see if I look good for the women I may meet on the flight.

Now I am walking on the flight and fighting with all the other passengers trying to get a space for my bag in the over head compartment. Some passengers will just about kill you for a space close to their seats and it gets me going. I try to hold back my anger because I have learned that it is a losing battle for me.

I am now in my seat and praying that a passenger does not ask me to move so they can sit with a friend or family member. We finally taxi away from the gate and we are wheels up on time.

We are about 30 minutes into the flight and the passenger behinds me does the sling shot seat move to my head. Let me explain. The fat guy behind me is so fat that he can not get out of his seat with out grabbing the head rest of my seat. Now when he does this the action makes my head sling shot back then violently forward once he releases it. This really gets me worked up and I have many of times imagined myself taking out my ASP and striking him in the knees.

About 30 minutes later the fat passenger in front of me does the breaking your lap top move. Let me explain. The passenger will press the recline button on his seat and use all of his 400 lbs of strength and violently recline his seat all the way back into the top of my lap top. Now this just about breaks my lap top and really gets me worked up once again. I have a move that I like to use when this happens. It is called the cold air move. Let me explain. Once the passenger has his seat so far back that I can give him a shave, I will turn on the air vent and aim it towards the top of his bald head. This move gets one of three results. 1) He will turn around and ask me to turn off the vent, 2) He will recline his seat a little forward, 3) He will do nothing and his head will get real cold and I laugh inside.

I land at my first stop of a two leg trip. Once we taxi to the gate it is off to the races. As soon as the fasten seat belt light turns off all the passengers jump out of their seats like it was to save their lives. They rush to the isles pushing one another and stepping on small children. Now this also gets me worked up and on many occasions I have wanted to pull out my gun and yell,” Sit back down until I get my bag!”.

I get off the plane after only being pushed once and make my way to the food area the get a high price lunch. I eat healthy and this is a challenger to find some other food other then burgers and fries. I eat and get my ticket for the next 3 hour flight to our nation’s capital. The flight is the same as the one before and the passengers are up to their old tricks and moves. Every day I try to defend against these moves and so far I have not lost my mind in the process.

This is a typical day for me and at the end of the second leg I wait 30 minutes for the hotel shuttle to the Hilton hotel. Once I get to the hotel the front desk tells me that my room will not be ready for another hour. So I get worked up again and just suck it up and sit on the couch untill they call me. I hope you now see what I deal with every day and it is just about the same everyday. Have fun guys and good luck in getting on with the air marshal service.
__________________
Promote confidence in our Nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers and crews


Great post.

When I was USSS-UD I thought I would lock of jihadi all the time and save the world, didn't realize it's mostly post standing and protection is boring.

Seriously - anyone who is applying to FAMS read the above post and ask yourself "can I do the above for 25 years?" I knew there was no way I could do my job at UD for 25 so I left for the private sector. Just a reality check, not trying to be an ***. FAMS and USSS are closely tied, from what I hear the training is similar, same piece, and the mission is all about protection, not enforcement.

Good luck all.

[Rather_Static]

Seriously - anyone who is applying to FAMS read the above post and ask yourself "can I do the above for 25 years?"

Right now, I feel like a tampon here at my current aviation gig..they are going to use me until I can't soak up anymore and then get rid of me...so his post brings me hope ;)

But I do follow what you are saying....

[gonefishin]

My days are normally the same when living the life as a federal air marshal. With the exception of flight delays and a few passengers who drink to much while in flight it is normally uneventful. I am going to tell you how my normal two day trip is. Some of you may find it boring but for the number of you aspiring air marshals read carefully. We do not do felony traffic stops or kick down any doors. The training is top notch and high speed. I have a saying, “We get paid the big bucks for that one second you may have to actually go to work.”

I am scheduled to be at the airport at 0900. I live about 45 minutes to the airport so I plan for any traffic delays. I pack my bag the night before for the two day trip. I pack light because I do not check any luggage in for obvious reasons. I get out of bed at 0630 so I can eat breakfast and see my kids before my wife takes them to school. I am dressed and out the door at 0800.

I get to the parking garage of the airport at about 0855. I take my time looking for that parking space that will give me all the defense from door dings. I work my way into the airport and walk up to the kiosk machine and get my boarding pass. I then get cash out of the atm and grab the paper. And I then walk to security where I normally get ****ed off 50 percent of the time. I will not get into how I bypass security but it is a pain in the rear and it does not take an idiot to see how I get passed security.

Once the TSA screener has already blown my cover I get passed him finally and walk into the terminal. I go to the bathroom for one last check to see that I have all my equipment and take that last look to see if I look good for the women I may meet on the flight.

Now I am walking on the flight and fighting with all the other passengers trying to get a space for my bag in the over head compartment. Some passengers will just about kill you for a space close to their seats and it gets me going. I try to hold back my anger because I have learned that it is a losing battle for me.

I am now in my seat and praying that a passenger does not ask me to move so they can sit with a friend or family member. We finally taxi away from the gate and we are wheels up on time.

We are about 30 minutes into the flight and the passenger behinds me does the sling shot seat move to my head. Let me explain. The fat guy behind me is so fat that he can not get out of his seat with out grabbing the head rest of my seat. Now when he does this the action makes my head sling shot back then violently forward once he releases it. This really gets me worked up and I have many of times imagined myself taking out my ASP and striking him in the knees.

About 30 minutes later the fat passenger in front of me does the breaking your lap top move. Let me explain. The passenger will press the recline button on his seat and use all of his 400 lbs of strength and violently recline his seat all the way back into the top of my lap top. Now this just about breaks my lap top and really gets me worked up once again. I have a move that I like to use when this happens. It is called the cold air move. Let me explain. Once the passenger has his seat so far back that I can give him a shave, I will turn on the air vent and aim it towards the top of his bald head. This move gets one of three results. 1) He will turn around and ask me to turn off the vent, 2) He will recline his seat a little forward, 3) He will do nothing and his head will get real cold and I laugh inside.

I land at my first stop of a two leg trip. Once we taxi to the gate it is off to the races. As soon as the fasten seat belt light turns off all the passengers jump out of their seats like it was to save their lives. They rush to the isles pushing one another and stepping on small children. Now this also gets me worked up and on many occasions I have wanted to pull out my gun and yell,” Sit back down until I get my bag!”.

I get off the plane after only being pushed once and make my way to the food area the get a high price lunch. I eat healthy and this is a challenger to find some other food other then burgers and fries. I eat and get my ticket for the next 3 hour flight to our nation’s capital. The flight is the same as the one before and the passengers are up to their old tricks and moves. Every day I try to defend against these moves and so far I have not lost my mind in the process.

This is a typical day for me and at the end of the second leg I wait 30 minutes for the hotel shuttle to the Hilton hotel. Once I get to the hotel the front desk tells me that my room will not be ready for another hour. So I get worked up again and just suck it up and sit on the couch untill they call me. I hope you now see what I deal with every day and it is just about the same everyday. Have fun guys and good luck in getting on with the air marshal service.
__________________
Promote confidence in our Nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers and crews



Classic! How about getting the jacka@# sitting next to you to you not talk your ear off? One of the best lines I ever heard went something like this:

Pax: "So....what do you do?"
FAM: "I collect money."
Pax: "Collect money? What do you mean?"
FAM: "People owe people money, I collect it."

The passenger didn't say a word for the rest of the flight!

[Love_Ulcer]

If I was a FAM, I'd probably fart as loud as I could on any given flight, just for my sanity's sake.

[tdparmel]

I applied for the Air Mashal job back in November 2006. I received my COE and then updated my profile, sent them all the forms .. . . never got an interview.

I just reapplied. It seems to have changed. Instead of getting a COE they said they would call me soon for a phone interview.

[robousmc]

My days are normally the same when living the life as a federal air marshal. With the exception of flight delays and a few passengers who drink to much while in flight it is normally uneventful. I am going to tell you how my normal two day trip is. Some of you may find it boring but for the number of you aspiring air marshals read carefully. We do not do felony traffic stops or kick down any doors. The training is top notch and high speed. I have a saying, “We get paid the big bucks for that one second you may have to actually go to work.”

I am scheduled to be at the airport at 0900. I live about 45 minutes to the airport so I plan for any traffic delays. I pack my bag the night before for the two day trip. I pack light because I do not check any luggage in for obvious reasons. I get out of bed at 0630 so I can eat breakfast and see my kids before my wife takes them to school. I am dressed and out the door at 0800.

I get to the parking garage of the airport at about 0855. I take my time looking for that parking space that will give me all the defense from door dings. I work my way into the airport and walk up to the kiosk machine and get my boarding pass. I then get cash out of the atm and grab the paper. And I then walk to security where I normally get ****ed off 50 percent of the time. I will not get into how I bypass security but it is a pain in the rear and it does not take an idiot to see how I get passed security.

Once the TSA screener has already blown my cover I get passed him finally and walk into the terminal. I go to the bathroom for one last check to see that I have all my equipment and take that last look to see if I look good for the women I may meet on the flight.

Now I am walking on the flight and fighting with all the other passengers trying to get a space for my bag in the over head compartment. Some passengers will just about kill you for a space close to their seats and it gets me going. I try to hold back my anger because I have learned that it is a losing battle for me.

I am now in my seat and praying that a passenger does not ask me to move so they can sit with a friend or family member. We finally taxi away from the gate and we are wheels up on time.

We are about 30 minutes into the flight and the passenger behinds me does the sling shot seat move to my head. Let me explain. The fat guy behind me is so fat that he can not get out of his seat with out grabbing the head rest of my seat. Now when he does this the action makes my head sling shot back then violently forward once he releases it. This really gets me worked up and I have many of times imagined myself taking out my ASP and striking him in the knees.

About 30 minutes later the fat passenger in front of me does the breaking your lap top move. Let me explain. The passenger will press the recline button on his seat and use all of his 400 lbs of strength and violently recline his seat all the way back into the top of my lap top. Now this just about breaks my lap top and really gets me worked up once again. I have a move that I like to use when this happens. It is called the cold air move. Let me explain. Once the passenger has his seat so far back that I can give him a shave, I will turn on the air vent and aim it towards the top of his bald head. This move gets one of three results. 1) He will turn around and ask me to turn off the vent, 2) He will recline his seat a little forward, 3) He will do nothing and his head will get real cold and I laugh inside.

I land at my first stop of a two leg trip. Once we taxi to the gate it is off to the races. As soon as the fasten seat belt light turns off all the passengers jump out of their seats like it was to save their lives. They rush to the isles pushing one another and stepping on small children. Now this also gets me worked up and on many occasions I have wanted to pull out my gun and yell,” Sit back down until I get my bag!”.

I get off the plane after only being pushed once and make my way to the food area the get a high price lunch. I eat healthy and this is a challenger to find some other food other then burgers and fries. I eat and get my ticket for the next 3 hour flight to our nation’s capital. The flight is the same as the one before and the passengers are up to their old tricks and moves. Every day I try to defend against these moves and so far I have not lost my mind in the process.

This is a typical day for me and at the end of the second leg I wait 30 minutes for the hotel shuttle to the Hilton hotel. Once I get to the hotel the front desk tells me that my room will not be ready for another hour. So I get worked up again and just suck it up and sit on the couch untill they call me. I hope you now see what I deal with every day and it is just about the same everyday. Have fun guys and good luck in getting on with the air marshal service.
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Promote confidence in our Nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers and crews

as hectic and uneventful as this day sounds it sure beats re enlisting for 4 more years of high deployment tempos to iraq, runnin around in the heat kickin in doors with the iraqi army watchin your back....i think it sounds fun....compared to "winnin hearts and minds of other country citizens"

on that note anyone get a phone interview after lastweeks chain e-mail.....

[RED DRAGON]

Did Anyone Get A Email From Avue In Reference To Figerprint Card Fair Credit Form, And Background? I Received A Email On March 15.

[kamkze]

Did Anyone Get A Email From Avue In Reference To Figerprint Card Fair Credit Form, And Background? I Received A Email On March 15.


Yeah I got it on march 10th, it had some release forms, fingerprint instructions, QNSP through e-qip, & declaration of federal employment. Sound like the one you got?

[manstown]

Intheair,

Yousent shivers down my back thinking about those days. You even made me a little angry thinking about all those days. Couldn't have made it any clearer than that. That's what you guys will deal with everyday. The only thing you left out was the flight attendants and pilots who want little to do with you until they see that one middle eastern person sneeze wrong or get out of their seat. Than you're their best friend. And for what? Because the guy had to go the the bathroom.

[futurefed21]

has anyone off of the new announcement heard anything AFTER having the phone interview?

[VCSOMotor91]

Still waiting for the phone interview.

[Rather_Static]

I am so confused..lol.

I got a call from the FAMS today asking me if I am still interested...I told them I am. They said, "good, schedule the medical exam..."

I said "I did it last week..." They said "Good!"

I asked if I was old annoucement or new...He said the old one and continue to march forward on the new.

R_S

[Kappa Cop]

Talked to a Lady in DC about the e-mail I received last week on re-doing my fingerprints, background on OPM website, and faxing all the info to her. She told me they have a estimated 139 applicants they are dealing with under the old annoucement and won't start the new annoucement til those are done.

03/07--COE
04/07--Fingerprints
05/07--Interview/Drug Test
01/08--Medical
02/08--PTA/ Drug Test
03/08--Resubmit info/LiveScan Fingerprints
??????CAll

[Rather_Static]

...She told me they have a estimated 139 applicants they are dealing with under the old annoucement and won't start the new annoucement til those are done...

http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_headbang.gif

Sorry :cool:

[jlhill16]

So does anyone have a timeline for those of us who recently submitted the BI,Fingerprint,fax stuff? Will they wait to finish the BI before giving us the"call"?

[sulley]

jhill, u have a PM.

[monalisa301]

Good luck to the oldies and the newbies!

[Zerosum]

Kamkze, I'm at the same point as you are. Applied 1/2007, interview 4/2007, received BI material last week, physical scheduled for 4/2008. BI's take forever, so I'm hoping they continue the process before the BI is adjudicated.

Also, under the new announcement, I got a message from some guy trying to schedule a phone interview. If you are in the same situation be happy that you're getting the call, but be ready for the process to take a year or two...

I've been reading this forum for months and only just received permission to post. (does Avue run this site? :p) Thanks to all of you who have been providing such useful gouge! :)

Oh yeah, and I received 19 :eek: e-mails informing me that I should expect a call for a phone interview. These Avue guys really know how to get your attention!

[Md094]

Applied Jan. 08
Received Email March 08
Phone Interview Today!!


I'm wondering which locations you listed on your application and if you have veteran preference. I am just trying to guess and the reasoning of why some peopel are starting to get calls, while others are not.

I received 10 emails from Avue, but no phone call yet... ;)

[kamkze]

So does anyone have a timeline for those of us who recently submitted the BI,Fingerprint,fax stuff? Will they wait to finish the BI before giving us the"call"?


I dont have a time line but I talked to a few currents FAMS and they said they were already flying before they got their TS. Also NYguy already got the call and he hasnt done his BI yet.

[kamkze]

Kamkze, I'm at the same point as you are. Applied 1/2007, interview 4/2007, received BI material last week, physical scheduled for 4/2008. BI's take forever, so I'm hoping they continue the process before the BI is adjudicated.

Yeah I am not sure how the BI is gonna work for me because I have a current clearance above TS. I think they will investigate from when my clearance adjudicated up until now but I am not sure. You are right though BI's do take awhile. I know for a fact that they will continue the process because NYguy already got the call and hasnt even filled out his QNSP for his BI yet.

[dtown101]

anyone know when the next class for artesia starts??????

[knightrider26]

kamkze,
I haven't gotten my BI done yet and I too got the call for my EOD. I've been in the process for about 2 1/2 years now. All I can say to you guys is just be patient and always be ready.

Good luck to everyone

[Zerosum]

Kamkze-

I too have a clearance above TS and am currently a background investigator... knowing the inefficiencies of the process I'd say that they will just run a whole new background on you with no consideration for your previous clearance. But since the process will continue before adjudication it really won't impact either of us negatively... this will be the third time in a year that I've been interviewed by someone who does my job, it's a little strange.

[litreofcola]

K, I have not posted in awhile, as I had kind of given up during the hiring freeze. But, now I have finished my medical, I am gathering the BI info and new fingerprint card, etc.

What I am curisous to know, is when my medical clears and my background clears, what are my chances of getting the call? I have not yet taken PAT test yer, but figure I will get probably at least an average on it. (I hate running, but oh well). I will not max running, and may not max pull-ups. should max sit-ups and push ups though. Howerver, I have not even had the PAT scheduled. Just had medical on Monday, and also got this BI packet recently. Seems like a lot of us are getting this, and with this much money invested in me I would think chances are looking up. But, I don't want to guess about the Government. Any idea would be greatly appreciated. Wife is wanting a baby, and all is on hold cuz of this.

[kamkze]

Kamkze-

I too have a clearance above TS and am currently a background investigator... knowing the inefficiencies of the process I'd say that they will just run a whole new background on you with no consideration for your previous clearance. But since the process will continue before adjudication it really won't impact either of us negatively... this will be the third time in a year that I've been interviewed by someone who does my job, it's a little strange.

At the last facility I worked for we had a couple of guys go over to a DOD facility for a temp basis and they just granted TS to those guys in 3 days because of their clearance level. So we will see how they handle this.

--jake

[287cpd]

Has anyone had their phone interview since the email last week?

[FormerUSAF]

I have heard they are going to process the booth pools of applicants, but I have also heard that the guys who have done their phone interview and passed will continue to move along in faster process then the previous have have experienced.

[juice1510]

Can any FAMS shed light on phase II if you have to pm me please..

[Blue Betty]

I'm not sure if anyone already addressed this, but can someone give a heads up on what to expect for the phone interview? Obviously, I'm not asking for specific questions, but I'm just wondering if this phase is more about your biographical data, or agency specific questions. Thanks all!

[litreofcola]

I really don't see how the new pool could jump over the old pool. Most of us guys in the old one already have our medical done or scheduled. Would be hard to get the new pool pushed through ahead of the old pool. I hope the process moves faster for everyone, but if they run out of money it will come to a grinding halt. They won't say why, cuz they don't care about applicants. There is enough of us out there that they don't have to try and explain anything to us or keep us happy. If we drop out, or get a diffrent job there is someone waiting to take our place. I am curious how many people in the old pool are still wanting the job and didn't settle for something else in the meantime. I just wish I knew what the actual chances of a job offer coming were.

[Quick2352]

Has anyone had their phone interview since the email last week?

I just got a call today to schedule my phone interview for Monday.:)

[IowaDPTY]

@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!

[Up_On_Base]

I just got a call today to schedule my phone interview for Monday.:)

+1 just got a call

[kamkze]

Anyone who got offered the Detroit FO please PM me.

PM UMDBulldog, he got the call for Detroit FO, not sure if he took it though.

[kamkze]

I really don't see how the new pool could jump over the old pool. Most of us guys in the old one already have our medical done or scheduled. Would be hard to get the new pool pushed through ahead of the old pool. I hope the process moves faster for everyone, but if they run out of money it will come to a grinding halt. They won't say why, cuz they don't care about applicants. There is enough of us out there that they don't have to try and explain anything to us or keep us happy. If we drop out, or get a diffrent job there is someone waiting to take our place. I am curious how many people in the old pool are still wanting the job and didn't settle for something else in the meantime. I just wish I knew what the actual chances of a job offer coming were.


You are exactly right, it will be hard to jump people in the old pool mostly because of time restraints. Even if the process is sped up, you are talking a conciderable amount of time to do, panel interview, medical, PTA, all the paperwork etc., whereas we would only have to do, phone interview and panel interview. Just my two cents.

[SOLO]

You are exactly right, it will be hard to jump people in the old pool mostly because of time restraints. Even if the process is sped up, you are talking a conciderable amount of time to do, panel interview, medical, PTA, all the paperwork etc., whereas we would only have to do, phone interview and panel interview. Just my two cents.

You are right, well, depending on the field office your dealing with. For instance, the filed office im going through, the applicants from the old pool whose packets are completed, are being pushed forward. Also the applicants from the new announcment will be fast tracked and may not be too far behind the the old pool applicants. ...................hey bulldog could u drop me a pm if u did in fact get the detroit call?

[SOLO]

+1 just got a call

Hey Base, good to see your still around. PM me if u get a chance.

[kamkze]

You are right, well, depending on the field office your dealing with. For instance, the filed office im going through, the applicants from the old pool whose packets are completed, are being pushed forward. Also the applicants from the new announcment will be fast tracked and may not be too far behind the the old pool applicants. ...................hey bulldog could u drop me a pm if u did in fact get the detroit call?

I didnt realize that different FO's were moving quicker than others. I just thought once your "packet" was complete it was forwarded to the hiring panel.

[Fed283]

Anyone recieved a call who requested Atlanta?

[The Jackal]

I didnt realize that different FO's were moving quicker than others. I just thought once your "packet" was complete it was forwarded to the hiring panel.

As far as I know and have seen here there hasn't been ANY movement in NY off the new announcement (except from the spam e-mails a couple weeks ago).

[RED DRAGON]

Fed283 I JUST SEND YOU A PM

[287cpd]

Not yet, but I also requested Chicago.

[kw111]

Anyone recieved a call who requested Atlanta?

Nope. But I turned down "the call" for the Boston FO last month and reapplied for Atlanta only, so i may be blacklisted now :cool:

[robousmc]

how are things going on the new anouncement....when they call to schedule phone interview do you get to pick the date and time?

[kamkze]

As far as I know and have seen here there hasn't been ANY movement in NY off the new announcement (except from the spam e-mails a couple weeks ago).

I was referring to the old announcement, but I am not sure about the new, I know denver is already doing phone interviews. They told me I wont get a phone interview until a decision is made on the old announcement for me.

[juice1510]

Hey guys if you want to work for the gov, you should not turn down any field office! You should be as flexiable as you can for hiring and remember in a few years you can make a transfer!

[SOLO]

Hey guys if you want to work for the gov, you should not turn down any field office! You should be as flexiable as you can for hiring and remember in a few years you can make a transfer!

My man u couldnt have said it better. Because KW11 turning down the call ,thats crazy yo !!! Black listed isnt the word. I do wish him the best of luck though.

[datfas]

I was referring to the old announcement, but I am not sure about the new, I know denver is already doing phone interviews. They told me I wont get a phone interview until a decision is made on the old announcement for me.

I sometimes think they don't know what they are doing. I accepted the position in NY and the Chicago FO called me this past week for a phone interview. No use doing the phone interview unless it helps me stay in CHI, which it didn't.

[Rather_Static]

I got a call today, for us old annoucement guys left, they wanted some docs faxed that I disclosed on my SF86 for certificates earned, etc...

Hopefully its a step closer.

[gonefishin]

There is a special on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight (CNN) at 10 PM EST about the FAMS. Don't know what its about but figured I'd spread the word.

[kamkze]

I got a call today, for us old annoucement guys left, they wanted some docs faxed that I disclosed on my SF86 for certificates earned, etc...

Hopefully its a step closer.

I would say it is! Congrats.

[Up_On_Base]

Just got done w/ the phone screen, anyone know the next step?

He didn't know which announcement it was for and told to keep an eye on Avue.

[RED DRAGON]

I got a call today, for us old annoucement guys left, they wanted some docs faxed that I disclosed on my SF86 for certificates earned, etc...

Hopefully its a step closer.

I GOT THE SAME CALL AND ATTEMPTED TO FAX THE DOCUMENTS AND WAS TOLD WHEN THEY RECEIVED THEM THAT THERE WAS A LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGES AND OPM WOULD NOT ACCEPT THEM THAT WAY. SO AFTER TRYING THREE TIMES I DECIDED TO SEND THEM VIA EXPRESS MAIL.

[robousmc]

question for you veteran applicants... when Hr reps tell you to check with Avue exactly who are they reffering to. Is your status of application supposed to change or is there another way to check the status?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-032308-sjf-gunonplane.1c4cabd1.html

[litreofcola]

INTHEAIR, I sent you an email!! help calm my nerves man!

[Bearcat357]

INTHEAIR, I sent you an email!! help calm my nerves man!

Check your PMs....as I sent you one...!!

[gpan202]

Hummmm....I was looking forward to seeing the Anderson Cooper show about the air marshals......only to find that they had a bunch of crap on about the election. The website did state that there was supposed to be a story about the marshals as well.....wonder what happened....

[nyguy1202]

yeah i was let down, on cnn.com/360 it had a link to the story but when I clicked it nothing came up...crap maybe next time.

[VCSOMotor91]

That was 2 Hours of my life that I wont get back. At least I know Hillary is safe from the "sniper fire" she landed in. Although they did do a good story on the Shock and Awe.

[futurefed21]

wow that was pretty fast! next step is the BI...heres my timeline for you guys who applied off the new annoucement:

Applied: January (about 1 week after the annoucement was released)

Phone Interview: Early March (about 1 week before the spam email went out)

COE: Today! :)

Good luck all! This seems to be a faster process than usual, according to the guys from the old announcment anyhow.

[mbrigha1]

Just wondering anyone's reaction to this headline article on cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/03/25/siu.air.marshals/index.html

[horse]

great article,im mean it obvious the program is in shambles,just look at the hiring process.

[sco0437]

I have a B.S degree, 3 years local l.e. experience, airline experience, and certified pilot.. It took the FAMS 1.5 years to contact me for an interview.

If the FAMS are so short there is no reason why it takes so long to get back to you.. You could be the best applicant ever, which I am very far from, but to them you are just a number..


I think the article is right on..

[Md094]

I have a B.S degree, 3 years local l.e. experience, airline experience, and certified pilot.. It took the FAMS 1.5 years to contact me for an interview.

If the FAMS are so short there is no reason why it takes so long to get back to you.. You could be the best applicant ever, which I am very far from, but to them you are just a number..


I think the article is right on..

I agree. I have 13 years of local law enforcement, college degree, with extensive knowledge, training and experience in investigations, criminal interdiction and much more. I stare at my phone everyday...waiting for the call.

[ryh03001]

the show on air marshals will be tonight at 10pm est on cnn.

[Pekkier]

Are Air Marshal trained in mortal combat situations?

[Rather_Static]

16 years in spec ops and aviation...I gave up staring at my phone.

(PTA on Friday, btw)

Go apply for other jobs...when you get hired, the FAMS will hit...trust me.

Semper Fi.

[ctl1117]

Hi everyone,

I have been watching this site since I applied back in 7/06. Just got offered and accepted Newark, NJ today. Anyone heading there can shoot me a PM if they want and I may even answer if I figure out how to check them! I would tell everyone waiting to hang tight. I was just as pi@#$d as everyone else but today I sure am happy I waited! Here is my time line.

Applied 7/06
Interview/Drug Test 10/06
Notice no word for over a year
Physical 2/08
PTA/Drug Test 2/08
Offer 3/08