Air Marshal Job Open !

[marinecop2]

jetdreamer,

Do you know if anyone in that group of 14 if they are in Artesia now? Seems strange they would say something like that. Can any current FAMS confirm if this has been done before in past hires?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

IntheAirCop;
I applied in July 06 and was called up for the NYC area in Dec 06. I have accomplished the panel interview, was scored highly qualified, had a follow up interview/drug test. I have completed all requirements except the medical and PTA. I was told I was hired and part of the last class for FY07and the academy would start late Aug early Sept. The only problem is I will turn 37 in late Jan 08. Looking back at the many posts here it does not seem like I will be reached before being disqualified due to my age. I have 16 years of federal service with another agency but not law enforcement, I also have 10 years of military experience as a flier. I really wanted this job and believe with my background I would make a good officer. Any suggestions?

if you are hired and begin getting paid before you turn 37 then you will be ok. But once you reach 37 then it is to late. The only other way is to get on with the Border Patrol because I think they raised the age to 40 for them.

[jetdreamer]

InTheAirCop,
Thanks for getting back to me. At least I still have a couple months of eligibility, but still have the medical and PTA, cutting it close! Can you transfer from Boarder Patrol to FAM?

[manstown]

You won't transfer over per se. But if you get on with BP before you turn 37 your clock stops as far as age. If you don't get hired by the time you're 37 with BP it's the same as you are now if you're looking to get on with the FAMS. Because BP moved the age for themselves, it doesn't stop the clock for those that still have the age requirement at 37.

[jetdreamer]

jetdreamer,

Do you know if anyone in that group of 14 if they are in Artesia now? Seems strange they would say something like that. Can any current FAMS confirm if this has been done before in past hires?


I do not know. I did not get any contact info from any of the other canidates, but the background was very diverse. I also thought it was strange, we did not take the medical yet or have the drug test at that point. I just figured they wanted us to be at ease.

[Seamarshal]

In the Air,
Any word on a new job annnoucement?

[copper02]

In The Air, can you advise what you have heard about the new fiscal year and the hiring process? Thanks for anything you can pass along! Be safe

[manstown]

In The Air, can you advise what you have heard about the new fiscal year and the hiring process? Thanks for anything you can pass along! Be safe

The SAC at our office sent a message out yesterday addressing some concerns. In there it pointed out that the 60 were hired for the last vacancy. It also goes to say that there isn't any talk of new hires in the near future, but a list is being made for future vacancies. That could all change at any time. But from what the guys that have been here a while say, this is exactly how it happened back after 9/11. Some of them didn't get calls until this last vacancy.

[Brightshape]

but a list is being made for future vacancies. That could all change at any time..

I think that's what I just got contacted about.

Hey all, I've been in the process for quite some time now (2 years). I come here occasionally to get the scuttlebutt on what's new with hiring.

Anyways, I finished the process in Sep.'06, and never heard anything other than a request for transcripts shortly after my PTA.....until last Tuesday.

It was a little odd. I go in and check my email and, low & behold, I have an email titled "FEDERAL AIR MARSHAL APPLICANT". It was a gentlemen from FAM HQ asking me to contact him on his office phone #, a 703 number.

Anyways, I called him up and he wanted to verify all my contact, employment info. was current. I was then asked to call a number with the TSA to check on my interim clearance, to see if it was favorable:confused: .

I called, I was favorable, called the gentlemen back and let him know. I asked a few questions about hiring, when and how soon. The gentlemen had no new info. to report. Told me to hang tight.

Thought I'd let you all know, since things have been slow around here.

[jetdreamer]

I think that's what I just got contacted about.

Hey all, I've been in the process for quite some time now (2 years). I come here occasionally to get the scuttlebutt on what's new with hiring.

Anyways, I finished the process in Sep.'06, and never heard anything other than a request for transcripts shortly after my PTA.....until last Tuesday.

It was a little odd. I go in and check my email and, low & behold, I have an email titled "FEDERAL AIR MARSHAL APPLICANT". It was a gentlemen from FAM HQ asking me to contact him on his office phone #, a 703 number.

Anyways, I called him up and he wanted to verify all my contact, employment info. was current. I was then asked to call a number with the TSA to check on my interim clearance, to see if it was favorable:confused: .

I called, I was favorable, called the gentlemen back and let him know. I asked a few questions about hiring, when and how soon. The gentlemen had no new info. to report. Told me to hang tight.

Thought I'd let you all know, since things have been slow around here.


Thanks for the info, bad news for me though...will be 37 in 13 short weeks. I don't think they will get to me in time. I will still try though and wish you good luck Brightshape. Any info I get I will be sure to post for future appliants.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Nothing to report guys. The word is down here that they will hire this year but not sure when. Us FAMs never know what the heck is going on. I have been on ALV for 3 weeks now and will return next week. I took 4 weeks off and it is so nice.

[manstown]

Nothing to report guys. The word is down here that they will hire this year but not sure when. Us FAMs never know what the heck is going on. I have been on ALV for 3 weeks now and will return next week. I took 4 weeks off and it is so nice.

Had some time to burn? Good for you. Bet you can't wait to get back to the friendly skies. Enjoy you rtime off.

[marinecop2]

How long does it normally take to get the call for transcripts? I have been reading most everyone is called shortly after pta. I have been done now for a month, but no call. Is the transcripts call necessary, because mine was attached to Avue when I applied for my degree. Does anyone know?

[marinecop2]

Nothing to report guys. The word is down here that they will hire this year but not sure when. Us FAMs never know what the heck is going on. I have been on ALV for 3 weeks now and will return next week. I took 4 weeks off and it is so nice.

Thanks for the update about hiring this year and enjoy your annual leave.

[datfas]

Well the rumor is the calls will go out next week for the Jan and Mar 08 classes. The numbers should be just under three digits. From what I heard these are classes at AC not FLETC.

[TigerWoody]

does that mean that applicants in the middle of the process (I stopped at the PT exam when I got the dreaded email) will get to continue with the process....or are the applicants who completed everything back in 05, 06, and early 07 getting the calls only? thanks

[datfas]

My guess is that if you haven't completed the process then you will not be receiving a phone call.

[manstown]

If they are at AC only they will be for those that are prior or current feds with the FLETC training already. Just talked with a few guys from training today and they said that they a class coming there shortly and that they've been told the next class may not happen until June or July.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I would doubt any calls will go out until the federal government passes this year’s budget. The federal government is still under a continuing resolution. So no new money for new hires until the budget passes.

[Milagro303]

Has anyone got a call lately?

Stay safe all-

[marinecop2]

Milagro303,

You have a PM....

[DPD2434]

Does anyone know if there will be hiring off of the current list? Or will a new annoucement be made? Patiently waiting...

[marinecop2]

Does anyone know if there will be hiring off of the current list? Or will a new annoucement be made? Patiently waiting...

I think they are hiring off the current list of those who are finished. I heard rumors of a new announcement, however, haven't seen anything yet. When did you start and finish the process?

[manstown]

Here's the new word on future hiring. The next hiring is going to come from a new announcement. The way it's going to work now is that a test is going to be given. The test was passed out at the office and taken by current FAMs to try to get a median score to determine what a passing score would be for future applicants. But they told us that because of the test, the next, and future, group of hires will have to go through the process again and take the test. And supposedly, the announcement is going to be for more than just DC and NY. When that vacancy will come out.....your guess is as good as mine and those who gave us the test. But that's how future hiring is going to be done. That's all I know.

[marinecop2]

What about those who have already completed everything? They surely will not spend money and time sending us through the medical, drug, and interviews again. Maybe they will just have us take the test as our final step. Any thoughts?????

[Up_On_Base]

Here's the new word on future hiring. The next hiring is going to come from a new announcement. The way it's going to work now is that a test is going to be given. The test was passed out at the office and taken by current FAMs to try to get a median score to determine what a passing score would be for future applicants. But they told us that because of the test, the next, and future, group of hires will have to go through the process again and take the test. And supposedly, the announcement is going to be for more than just DC and NY. When that vacancy will come out.....your guess is as good as mine and those who gave us the test. But that's how future hiring is going to be done. That's all I know.

So...those of us who applied to the June 07 vacancy will probably have to re-apply for the next announcement?

[manstown]

The way they described it was that everyone will have to apply again. You have to realize that some of the process, medical, pysical, and drug test expire at a certain point. The interview doesn't cost anything and if they want you to recert any of the process they have to pay anyway. Like I said earlier, I don't know when the next announcement is going to be and either did the people passing out the test. At least they had no concrete dates.

[marinecop2]

Anyone have anything new to report on hiring and the budget?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Just had a talk with the SAIC in my office and he said that we are hiring 201 for the year with 2 classes being hired in January and the other 2 classes about June. So that is the finally word so far from my SAIC. He is in the inside because he just got back from a SAIC conference in DC. He also said that the 2 classes that get hired will still be going to the north east and LA, California. But I was surprised when he said that the 2 classes in June that a bunch would be coming to Miami. The Miami office is hurting for new hires.

[HDbluelite]

Have you heard if it's going to be from the current lists or not? An earlier posting said that a new posting would go up and a test added.

[manstown]

If a class is for January, they'll probably use the list. Just goes to show, no one really knows what's going on. Hope I didn't freak you guys out. Just what we were told a few weeks ago.

[Brightshape]

You freaked me out.;)

Having been in the process since July'05, and getting called last month by the #703 area code (for the second time) to check on all my info and also telling me that my background (interim) was "favorably adjucated for hire"....I thought finally my ship (barge, actually:D) may have come trolling in.....till your post.

Now intheaircop has revived my hopes once again....not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

[Love_Ulcer]

Good god....I still see some familiar names here still. I give you guys props for perseverance.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I am not sure what the FAM service is going to do but we are losing FAMs fast! We just had 4 more quit this month in my office. One guy is going back as a K9 officer with CBP, and the others to 1811 postions. I do not want to put out the exact numbers but we have lost 33% of the office I am at since we began back in 2002 and we have not gotten any new hires since the start. The agaency needs to either hire more or firgure out how to keep us here. Any answers guys???????????????????????????????

[manstown]

I know at my office, they have started making things a little harder for us. They need to start promoting some of you guys that have been flying. They need people who have been in the ranks per se. Since the few changes Brown has made, which were all in the direction of making the agency better, some of the higher ups seem to want to go back to the days of Quinn. I really like this job. But because of what's been going on in the past 5-6 months, I'm starting to look else where as well. I know 6 people that have left from my class and we've been out of the academy for almost a year and a half. Our management just doesn't care about our concerns. They see life as FAMS, country, Family. In that order.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

They see life as FAMS, country, Family. In that order.


I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT ON THIS !

[manstown]

That's why I think, not just your office, but alot of offices are losing people as quickly as they hired them. Like I said, I like the job. It's not rocket science, especially for what they pay us. Just sick of working for people who don't care about anyone but themselves. And I'd like to see my little girl a little more. Just came back from 5 weeks of back to back overnights and internationals.

[Up_On_Base]

That's why I think, not just your office, but alot of offices are losing people as quickly as they hired them. Like I said, I like the job. It's not rocket science, especially for what they pay us. Just sick of working for people who don't care about anyone but themselves. And I'd like to see my little girl a little more. Just came back from 5 weeks of back to back overnights and internationals.

This job sounds alot like USSS-UD, I know post 9/11 tons of UD guys went to FAMS. Therefore I would imagine there is a strong UD culture over at FAMS, for example the PT test is exactly the same.

[manstown]

A lot of UD within the ranks. But the agency was started, and is still managed by many that were Ex USSS Agents. They really are making, what could be a great agency, a hard agency for people to call home. Problems were worse off when the old Director, Quinn, was around. Now Director Brown started off changing the direction it was headed in for the better, but has been quiet lately.

[Up_On_Base]

A lot of UD within the ranks. But the agency was started, and is still managed by many that were Ex USSS Agents. They really are making, what could be a great agency, a hard agency for people to call home. Problems were worse off when the old Director, Quinn, was around. Now Director Brown started off changing the direction it was headed in for the better, but has been quiet lately.

One thing people must know about the USSS culture is the mission always comes first, everything else like family/holidays/weekends is not important. That is a major reason for the high turnover/divorce rate with-in the service.

I agree the mission is important but there should be some flexability to maintain a strong work/life balance. If they were more flexable your employees would be happy, happy employee = good employee. I could not tell you how many times I had days off cancelled, called in early or stayed late. Some times working in LE is like the scene from Animal House - Thank you sir may I have another...Thank you sir may I have another...they just wear you down.

[manstown]

The thing with the FAMS is that the Director presses a better "Quality of Life." Well that's all good and well to talk about, but these idiots managing the agency, which Brown can't keep tabs on all of them, are taking it into their own power to tweek what Brown means by "Quality of Life". Brown has added so good things that have made life better for FAMs, ut management is now starting to head down the path of old. At my FO at least. They are starting to make it difficult to enjoy the job, that good be even better. Brown needs to step in again and start slapping some hands.

[marinecop2]

Just got word from a (703)area code by email to fax transcripts. Anyone else get an email like this? Things are looking up hopefully.

[Brightshape]

I got an e-mail like that in October, and a follow up call, but nothing since then.

[marinecop2]

I got an e-mail like that in October, and a follow up call, but nothing since then.

I also was just contacted from my work. My background has apparently been started.

[Brightshape]

That's funny. They told me my background was "favorably adjudicated for hire".

I don't know if the gentleman I spoke with meant an interim or full?

It's kinda odd FAMS is e-mailing us now, don't ya think?

[manstown]

Your background won't be completed until you sign the papers. I have been on for over a year and just recieved my TS clearance. Some have gotten it right after the academy and I know one that is going on 2 years now. Just a matter of how much work their doing at OPM. Because it is adjudicated for hire, means they have found no real issues in your background and barring a bad thing they haven't found yet, you're good.

[Brightshape]

Your background won't be completed until you sign the papers. I have been on for over a year and just recieved my TS clearance. Some have gotten it right after the academy and I know one that is going on 2 years now. Just a matter of how much work their doing at OPM. Because it is adjudicated for hire, means they have found no real issues in your background and barring a bad thing they haven't found yet, you're good.

Thanks for the response, manstown.

Quick question, do they only adjudicate for hire those who they are going to hire for sure (given all the steps have been completed, like in my case)?

Or, is it a regular thing done for all applicants who pass the interview phase?

[manstown]

Usually they would only do this for those going to get hired. It is a lot for them to spend on someone they don't think they're going to hire.

[Brightshape]

Well, in that case (and I won't hold you to it, manstown ;)), it sounds as if some good news may be coming to myself and marinecop2.

Let's hope so, and I'll keep my fingers crossed for us both mc2.

Thanks again, manstown.

[marinecop2]

Well, in that case (and I won't hold you to it, manstown ;)), it sounds as if some good news may be coming to myself and marinecop2.

Let's hope so, and I'll keep my fingers crossed for us both mc2.

Thanks again, manstown.

Appreciate it brighshape. Good luck and will do the same.

[kw111]

I got a call from the 703 area code today for a set of final transcripts and was told my packet will be reviewed by the panel this Thursday. Not too sure what that means, but it's something.

[Milagro303]

Sound like there may be some good news coming from you all in the not too distant future. May I offer an early congratulations?

How does the background work in that you enter on duty and begin work long before you BI is completed? Anyone know?

[manstown]

They do an interim background. Took a while for me to get mine. Just sat on a desk waiting to be signed.

[Brightshape]

May I offer an early congratulations?

Hey, hey, don't jinx us now.:D

[Milagro303]

Very well- I will hold out on passing out the cigars and cake. Enjoy the holidays, and lets hope ya'll hear something soon.

[dtown101]

well the budget was finally passed for the 2008 fiscal year. so for all that is still in the running calls should be going out soon. my guess it will be in early Jan....they have a couple classes set for early 08 I have heard they are wanting to hire a couple hundred new fams and half of them with current FED LEO status....

08-04-06
Panel Interview
Drug Eval
Medical Eval
Psyche
Physical
Finger Printed @ Dulles Airport by live scan

12-22-07
Waiting and Waiting and Waiting

Come on 609 area code!!!!!!!!

[marinecop2]

well the budget was finally passed for the 2008 fiscal year. so for all that is still in the running calls should be going out soon. my guess it will be in early Jan....they have a couple classes set for early 08 I have heard they are wanting to hire a couple hundred new fams and half of them with current FED LEO status....


Do you have any idea when in early 08 the classes are scheduled?

[Up_On_Base]

I heard a rumor last year from an old UD friend processing that FAMS were going to become 1811 status, any truth?

[manstown]

Not going to get 1811 status. We don't do anything investigative. Been talking about that for a while now. They have been talking about a adding on to the academy in regards to a CI training. But that hasn't been talked about much lately.

[Up_On_Base]

Not going to get 1811 status. We don't do anything investigative. Been talking about that for a while now. They have been talking about a adding on to the academy in regards to a CI training. But that hasn't been talked about much lately.

Thanks - that is why I thought it was strange, not really an investigative position.

[marinecop2]

Merry Christmas!!!

[Brightshape]

Merry Christmas!!!

Thank you.:) Merry Christmas!

[Milagro303]

I too hope that those that aren't working- are enjoying time with friends and family. And those that must work- be doing so safely.
Happy New Year all!

[copper02]

Anyone know what the hiring status is right now, for those of us who are "on the list". Thanks for giving any information you have!

[froggy]

I was told the new announcement will open up after the 1st of the year.

[bcoteRPD]

I have been reading this forum for some time and would like to thank all of you for your input and congratulate those that have been hired. I began this process in June, 2005. I have completed all the steps that have been listed by other completed applicants on this forum. I was notified 3 months ago that my packet had been forwarded to the hiring authority by a gentleman at the 703 area code. He was also the person asking for my transcripts.
I have been trying to find a contact (human resources type of #) to ask some of the many questions that we have. I would like to know if I am being hired or set aside in a candidate pool for the future. I would like to think that I am qualified (Police officer 5 years, 3 active years military, 30 college credits).
I know I am in the same boat as the rest of you, but if anyone has any type of contact regarding application status I would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.

[SOLO]

Greetings to all. I have been watching from the shadows for about a year reading the forum. I started the process in january 07, completed the process around august 07. I am former U/D , military, over 60 college credits, and currently in law enforcement. I confirmed my packet was complete a few weeks ago, and that if they wanted me they will call. also note, was told months ago that typically if one gets to the p.t. test and passes, and does not get the nasty gram about four weeks after that, then they are good. They just have to wait their time. Keep up the faith hope that those of us who are finished will get the call soon.

[marinecop2]

was told months ago that typically if one gets to the p.t. test and passes, and does not get the nasty gram about four weeks after that, then they are good. They just have to wait their time. Keep up the faith hope that those of us who are finished will get the call soon.

First off, congrats of finishing the process in record time. I think that is the quickest I heard of yet. What is passing on the pta, because each part is on a scaling system? Neither pass nor fail. Just ranges from excellent to very poor. Also, that is the first time I heard of people getting notified 4 weeks later if they did not pass.

[Quick2352]

I have been through a panel interview at the atlanta office in 2006 but decided not to take the job. However, I was hired as a police officer with another federal agency and now live in the D.C. area. I have 4 years of prior police experience, a TS clearance, 60 college credits, and I'm a certified firearms instructure with the agency I am with now. Does anyone know my chances of being hired as an Air Marshal within a year of re-applying since there is such a large back log of other applicants? Also, what are my chances of being assigned to the Newark, NJ office?

[marinecop2]

I have been through a panel interview at the atlanta office in 2006 but decided not to take the job.

Where were you offered a position? Or did you decide to just not continue the process? If so, how far along were you?

[gbotj]

whens filing for this job opening up again?

[Quick2352]

Where were you offered a position? Or did you decide to just not continue the process? If so, how far along were you?

I wasn't offered the job, however, I did pass the interview. After that, I was scheduled for a physical but decided not to continue with the process. I wanted to know if my application would be processed faster since I now work for the federal government and have a clearance.

[Supersonic527]

I wanted to know if my application would be processed faster since I now work for the federal government and have a clearance.

I don't think it'll be processed any faster...unless you know someone that could push it through.

[SOLO]

First off, congrats of finishing the process in record time. I think that is the quickest I heard of yet. What is passing on the pta, because each part is on a scaling system? Neither pass nor fail. Just ranges from excellent to very poor. Also, that is the first time I heard of people getting notified 4 weeks later if they did not pass.

I agree, it was pretty fast going through the process. The other two guys that had the pt test with me were on the same time frame as i was. But it seems like we all have hit a brick wall. I have a friend that worked with me in UD thats a FAM now. He keeps his ear to the ground for me. As far as the pt test, i did 25 pull ups, 90 push ups, 65 situps, 11 min run. I dont know what the minimum is, but i do know that 99% of all candidates are highly qualified and every edge helps. So DO YOUR BEST !!!.
The recruiter at the time was the one who told us about the 4 weeks, maybe it was for that particular field office.

[dtown101]

good luck to all that is in the process

[dtown101]

From what ive been told from an inside source that the January class is full and a March class will be filled. and anyone that has not completed the whole process will not be taken from this current announcement
MarineCop Record Time??? I had all of mine done in 1 Day
My process:
Panel Interview + Interview ASAC 8-4-06
Medical Testing 8-4-06
Psyche Testing 8-4-06
Finger Printed @ Dulles Airport (Live Scan) 8-4-06
PT Test 8-4-06

Been done for a long time and the waiting continues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[marinecop2]

From what ive been told from an inside source that the January class is full and a March class will be filled. and anyone that has not completed the whole process will not be taken from this current announcement
MarineCop Record Time??? I had all of mine done in 1 Day
My process:
Panel Interview + Interview ASAC 8-4-06
Medical Testing 8-4-06
Psyche Testing 8-4-06
Finger Printed @ Dulles Airport (Live Scan) 8-4-06
PT Test 8-4-06

Been done for a long time and the waiting continues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry bro, you win the cake for fastest process. Did you hear anything else about that March class? Starting dates etc....

[dtown101]

Sorry bro, you win the cake for fastest process. Did you hear anything else about that March class? Starting dates etc....

marine cop check your private msg....hope that info sheds some light?????

[kw111]

marine cop check your private msg....hope that info sheds some light?????

I'd also appreciate any info on the March class if anyone knows anything. Thanks!

[manstown]

I saw one of the instructors the other day at the airport, they pull some flight duty as well, and they said that they knew nothing of a January or March class. Not sure where some of this information is coming from.

[David95XJ]

has anyone heard when they will re announce these positions? i see there are opening for already credentialed FAMs but no new ones?

Also for new FAMs are they mostly hired out of DC/NY area or can other airports pick them up?

[frenchy480]

Does anyone know if they are still hiring a small number of TSA screeners "officers" to fill open slots? Maybe we should apply for TSA instead. I applied with the FAMS back in Feb, 2006, completed everything and haven't heard a thing. Still waiting.

[Necktie]

I have been reading this forum for some time, I began this process in May 2005. I have completed all the steps. Still waiting.

[Bearcat357]

Does anyone know if they are still hiring a small number of TSA screeners "officers" to fill open slots? Maybe we should apply for TSA instead. I applied with the FAMS back in Feb, 2006, completed everything and haven't heard a thing. Still waiting.

Only thing the FAMS are hiring for right now are already Credentialed FAMs to come out to DC and work at the TSOC.....

[thermop6]

I got the call today. LA Field Office, beginning March 3. She said more calls would be going out this week. 703 area code.

Timeline:
Aug 05, COE
Sep 05, Background packet
Oct 05, Medical
Dec 05, Oral Board/Psych/Drug Screen
Dec 05, Fingerprints/Transcripts request
Jan 06, PTA
Oct 06, Recert
Mar 07, Email request - still interested?
Jan 08, Call

Cheers guys - good luck! PM with any questions..

[Rather_Static]

Hey all...

I paneled interviewed last March of 2007 in DTW after the initially applying in Dec of 2005, everything so far they told me to do is done, drug, prints, etc....I was told I was going to get a call for the PT...never happened..I interviewed in DTW.

Good luck to all whom are holding their breath...I am sure I missed the boat.

[froggy]

Had numerous calls last week from 703 area code requesting records. Have the feeling the call is coming shortly.
Good luck to all.

[Up_On_Base]

Any word on new testing or announcement?

I got the COE and submitted BI in June 07 and have not heard anything. Not really that surprised, I know there is a tons of apps ahead of me.

I think I will have to re-apply once the new format is rolled out.

[dtown101]

Seems to me that the people who will be getting calls at this time will be the ones who will be attendind the academy in Artesia. So to all of you who are Fed Leo dont worry for now. From what Ive been told the calls will go out about the time the classes from Artesia start coming back to go to Atlantic City.

[SOLO]

Seems to me that the people who will be getting calls at this time will be the ones who will be attendind the academy in Artesia. So to all of you who are Fed Leo dont worry for now. From what Ive been told the calls will go out about the time the classes from Artesia start coming back to go to Atlantic City.


Maybe those of us who got FLETC already will get the call soon. Keep the positive vibes goin fellas!

[datfas]

Is anyone on this forum that got hired for the Jan or Mar class a former FLEO. Good luck to the Jan hires that start FLETC soon. If any of you are going to NY send me a PM. Also is there anyone out there that got hired for NY from another state that I can ask some questions.

[bcoteRPD]

Finally got the call!!! Boston office. I started this process in June of '05. I will start in March. Send a PM and I will try to help anyone that I can. I know how tought the wait is. Good luck guys.

[manstown]

Given the day and age of terrorism, what do you expect the Federal Government to do? Put a flyer on the street corners advertising they're hiring and when people show up, throw them a gun and a badge? And then say to them, we need you to go find the bad guys? It's a process that takes some time because they want to make sure that they get good people to do an important job. If the process took 2 weeks or a month who knows what kind of people would get under the radar. And than lets talk about funding. It costs in upwards of $100,000 invested in the people they hire between flying them to one training site to the next. Then pay for their places to stay during training, feed them, oh and yeah......pay them! If you want to do "some federal work" you're going to have to wait. No real point to rush people through only to find out they're criminals because the backgrounds were done incorrectly. In "this day and age of terrorism" I'm assuming you can appreciate those sort of things.

[Brightshape]

Congrats to those who have received the offers...I'm envious;).

Given the field office locations intheaircop and others have said are hurting for people such as LA, the northeast & Miami and....looking at the locations of those of you who have received offers most recently, and where your coming from.

Do the FAMS hire (or are they hiring now) geographically?

I'm starting to wonder, given I am in Orlando, that when (and if) FAMs looks to hire people for offices like Miami, or anywhere in the southeast, that those of us in the south (and if were selected) are more likely to receive a call at that time for those offices?

Or does it not matter at all where you are located, the FAMS will put you where they need you, when they need you?

Hmmm, I think I have to much time on my hands this weekend...:D.

[dtown101]

Man, calm down! Obviously you must have a stake in the Federal process somehow. I made a statement, if you dont like it, deal with it! I'm sure there are some very good agents protecting this country....... IS your pride hurt, do you feel offended that someone feels that making people wait upwards of two plus years is a shot to your "so-called" personal armour. In the 14 lines of nonesense that you spewed you made your self look like a complete idiot. Especially when the topic has nothing to do with anything that you can control (you dont give the "your hired" statement). Thoughts are stated on the website nothing more. If you feel offended sit down, watch some television and have a popcicle!!!!


Ive been on this forum for some time now myself and everyone on here has been somewhat pleasant to each other.... This forum is a place to talk about what we have heard or done in the process....not call someone an idiot....people need to just chill about negative comments toward each other.... Just a thought ....and anyone who is already on the "blue" Side should now that we are all brothers n sisters in the fight

[RED DRAGON]

I just check avue site and they have another posting for air marshal positions. I'm wondering if you are already in the process do you have to reaply? I had my interview June of 2007 before the posting was closed. I have not heard anything via landline or email as regards to were I am in the process. I called the Atlanta field office and could not get any help from anyone.

[gonefishin]

I'm sure you guys/gals will have a great time and I wish you all luck. I wish I had the oppurtunity to do some federal work but I have to say this....... A 2 year process for any job is just plain Horse SH&t. In this day of terrorism and what not, someone needs to take their head out of their *****!!!

Again, Good luck!

I agree waiting two years to get hired for a job is ridiculous but almost all of the Fed agencies take forever to hire.....just look at any of the other forums.

[marinecop2]

I just check avue site and they have another posting for air marshal positions. I'm wondering if you are already in the process do you have to reaply? I had my interview June of 2007 before the posting was closed. I have not heard anything via landline or email as regards to were I am in the process. I called the Atlanta field office and could not get any help from anyone.


Well, I just read that vacancy announcement also. They seem to be starting another pool of applicants for at least a dozen offices under this announcement. According to how it reads, yes, we will have to reapply. However, I think your just basically recerting your application. Your not going to have to redo all the steps. Just my two cents though.

[manstown]

Man, calm down! Obviously you must have a stake in the Federal process somehow. I made a statement, if you dont like it, deal with it! I'm sure there are some very good agents protecting this country....... IS your pride hurt, do you feel offended that someone feels that making people wait upwards of two plus years is a shot to your "so-called" personal armour. In the 14 lines of nonesense that you spewed you made your self look like a complete idiot. Especially when the topic has nothing to do with anything that you can control (you dont give the "your hired" statement). Thoughts are stated on the website nothing more. If you feel offended sit down, watch some television and have a popcicle!!!!

You tell me to calm down, and you're the one crying that you had to wait 2 plus years to get a job. And don't flatter yourself. A few words on a computer screen really don't effect my pride coming from someone who only wants to complain. You obviously have no clue about the federal process. And the fact that you haven't been picked up by anyone yet, and the fact that you can't yet say "I'm a Federal Agent....like Jack Bauer" really seems to have your pride a little twisted. And judging by your screen name, it seems like you can't find a job you think is good enough to impress your friends. The fact you know little about the federal process means you should probably stay away from the subject if you have no insight on it. You want to sit here and start calling people "idiots" over a little criticism, just goes to show you might want to think about a different line of work. If a little information from someone who has a little experience on the subject hurts your feelings that much, maybe you should think of a desk job with a computer. With that said, I'm going to sit down, watch some tv, hell....I might even grab me a popcicle and wait to see what intelligent insight you have for me. Take care buddy.

[Up_On_Base]

Well, I just read that vacancy announcement also. They seem to be starting another pool of applicants for at least a dozen offices under this announcement. According to how it reads, yes, we will have to reapply. However, I think your just basically recerting your application. Your not going to have to redo all the steps. Just my two cents though.

Yep...I agree we have to re-apply. I hope the new process is more streamlined. Especially for those of us who have LE experience!

[datfas]

The postion for Air Marshal is now open. They will hire about 50 new FAMS. Those that already applied under the old vacancy will have to reapply. The KSAs for Level 1 are the same from the last vacancy but the Level 2 are a little different. If you applied to the old vacancy you can log into AVUE and complete the information the same way as the old one. Good luck!!

usa jobs

Department: Department Of Homeland Security
Agency: Transportation Security Administration
Job Announcement Number:
FAMS-FLD-08-0045

Vacancy Announcement Number: FAMS-FLD-08-0045

hope this helps

[Brightshape]

Well, I just read that vacancy announcement also. They seem to be starting another pool of applicants for at least a dozen offices under this announcement. According to how it reads, yes, we will have to reapply. However, I think your just basically recerting your application. Your not going to have to redo all the steps. Just my two cents though.

+2, that's how I view it (I did re-apply though).

[RED DRAGON]

I just reaplplied under the new vacancy annoucement and was happy to see they were hiring for the Atlanta field office. I hope this time I will get a little bit further in the hiring process.

[marinecop2]

+2, that's how I view it (I did re-apply though).

I just got off the phone with Avue. The information they have to tell everyone is if you have not recieved a EOD date then you will have to reapply under new announcement and begin the process over regardless on where you are at this point.

[Brightshape]

I just got off the phone with Avue. The information they have to tell everyone is if you have not recieved a EOD date then you will have to reapply under new announcement and begin the process over regardless on where you are at this point.

Well, that's disheartening.

Thanks for the info, though.

[MrBug708]

Does anyone have a link for the new announcement?

[Up_On_Base]

Does anyone have a link for the new announcement?

Just do a search over @ www.avuedigitalservices.com , the position is 1801

[lady_j]

I got the call for Newark on Friday! Anyone else heading for Newark?

[Up_On_Base]

I got the call for Newark on Friday! Anyone else heading for Newark?

You mean "The call" and you are starting training? Have fun in NM, not a lot to do in Artesia but it's only 7 weeks. Hope you like chicken, it's a staple at all the FLETC's

Good luck in your new career!

[gonefishin]

I got the call for Newark on Friday! Anyone else heading for Newark?
I can't believe that they are still sending new hires to other FO's besides NY and DC.....congrats!

[RED DRAGON]

A Buddy Of Mine Just Reported To The Boston Field Office Two Weeks Ago. He Was In The Process For About Two Years Before Getting The Call.

[thermop6]

If anyone else here gets a call for LA, shoot me a PM and we'll chat before March 3.

[Red2]

I can't stand AVUE. Its worthless. Im still trying to find the job opening.

[formerFAM]

***********

[george4]

Here we go again. I applied through AVUE and went on their site to check my status. I found that I my application was complete but that I did not meet the minimum qualifications. I obviously missed something...I was hired the last go around but had to say no due to personal reasons at that time. Nothing has changed so I have an email in to AVUE to figure out what is going on.

[manstown]

Oh boy. If you notice my SN, you will see that I am a former FAM. Started in 2002, 4th class in. I have one piece of advice for you guys going into the academy. Immediately, without delay, find some other agency and start the application process. The FAMS is a good place to work, for 2 years, then it becomes hell, unless you suck ATSAC d**K and get a cush job, but out of 200 in your office, 185 will fly everyday. Don't let the JTTF or GO Team fool you, you will fly every single day for 4.5 years, just as I did. You will have NO life. No softball team, no regular poker game, no weekly knitting lessons. You will never go to sleep or get up at the same time, ever again. You will be sick, as a dog, more often than anytime in your life. You will go through a very high speed academy, thinking that you are going to take down Bin Laden himself, and then show up to your first day of work to have a 50 year old hag of a washed up flight attendant tell you that you can't pre board the airplane because due to security reasons. You WILL be dimed out by a flight attendant/pilot/ticket counter worker. You WILL be MURDERED by the agency for whatever nonesense that person tells about you.

Be careful. The FAMS is a good job, especially if you are patriotic and want to do something in response to 9/11, but it is not a career. Keep quiet and clean, show up on time and start applying elsewhere immediately. By the time you realize that you HATE your job, you don't want to be 2-3 years away from your next job. Trust me.

PM me if you have questions, especially if you are going to NYFO.


I'll agree with what was said here, just not as angerly. But the anger is understood. I got out right about at that breaking point. Your life changes quite a bit. What is mentioned is absolutely true for just about all, if not all, the FO's. I can say that I have never been so sick in the time I was with the FAMS. The ear problems alone are ridiculous. And don't even get me started on the sinus problems. Than there's those little stints of vertigo. It isn't a bad job, but if you plan on going somewhere else, start now like formerfam said. If anyone has any questions you can PM me as well.

[george4]

Just got off the phone with AVUE. It seems that I forgot to check off the box regarding my willingness to take the PTA. Not so smart...I updated my application and resubmitted it.

[Rather_Static]

I can't stand AVUE. Its worthless. Im still trying to find the job opening.

The link through USAJOBS.com worked fine for me...

[Rather_Static]

Yup...

Here we go again. I first did this in Dec of 2005, panel interviewed in March of 2007...going to apply for this one today..

Good luck, again, to all.

[MrBug708]

The link through USAJOBS.com worked fine for me...

This one?

JOB SUMMARY:
The position of Federal Air Marshal is located at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Office of Law Enforcement/Federal Air Marshal Service (OLE/FAMS), Office of Field Operations, in Field Offices nationwide. The OLE/FAMS is an Excepted Service Agency. All applicants who applied under any previous Federal Air Marshal announcement must reapply under this vacancy announcement to be considered.
Applications for this position are being processed through an on-line applicant assessment system that has been specifically configured for Federal Air Marshal Service applicants. Even if you have already developed a resume in USAJOBS, you will need to access this on-line system to complete the application process. To obtain information about this position and TO APPLY, please click on http://www.avuecentral.com/vacancy.html?ref=DJFPP.

[Love_Ulcer]

Yay....lemme apply again and go through the entire process and up to PTA only to be not heard from ever again. Yeah, I'm REALLY looking forward to that again.

[Rather_Static]

Yay....lemme apply again and go through the entire process and up to PTA only to be not heard from ever again. Yeah, I'm REALLY looking forward to that again.


Ahh...its ok. Just get a few applications going with different agencies at once so all this overlaps..something has to hit.

[97@HPD]

Just got off the phone with AVUE. It seems that I forgot to check off the box regarding my willingness to take the PTA. Not so smart...I updated my application and resubmitted it.

Gosh? Is that you??? I just read all your posts....it has to be you

[jaybird33081]

This one?

JOB SUMMARY:
The position of Federal Air Marshal is located at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Office of Law Enforcement/Federal Air Marshal Service (OLE/FAMS), Office of Field Operations, in Field Offices nationwide. The OLE/FAMS is an Excepted Service Agency. All applicants who applied under any previous Federal Air Marshal announcement must reapply under this vacancy announcement to be considered.
Applications for this position are being processed through an on-line applicant assessment system that has been specifically configured for Federal Air Marshal Service applicants. Even if you have already developed a resume in USAJOBS, you will need to access this on-line system to complete the application process. To obtain information about this position and TO APPLY, please click on http://www.avuecentral.com/vacancy.html?ref=DJFPP.


i just looked at this site seen that they had openings in MN how likely is it that you get the location ya want and say there

[Rather_Static]

Hey, all..let me ask you this. How would you take it if you got a PM from a 200+ post guy here at the forums asking this:

Hey how are you doing my name is Poster X and I am a XXXX currently stationed at XXX and soon the be XXX. I am looking to apply for the FAMS but I find that the KSA's are very hard to complete if you have any of the KSA's that you have completed ie not looking for you to send any info as your name or anything like that it can be del before sending but if you have some KSA's that they are looking for would you be able to email those to me my email is a secure govt email address...

Reason why I am asking..is that I just got this PM'd to me.

Wow.

Semper Fi, good luck again to all.

[marinecop2]

Hey, all..let me ask you this. How would you take it if you got a PM from a 200+ post guy here at the forums asking this:



Reason why I am asking..is that I just got this PM'd to me.

Wow.

Semper Fi, good luck again to all.

Wow is right. That sums it up perfectly.

[Luko]

Put my app figured it was worth the shot. I like to fly and going through airports so might be just the job for me. Plus they have openings in areas around me which is always a good things. So here's to waiting on the FAMS and ICE!

[JHoss]

It seems like they are still processing from the older applications from people who applied to the previous announcement. I did what I was told, and reapplied under the new announcement, but just received notification to schedule my medical screening for my previous application. I guess this is somewhat good news to anyone who hadn't completed the process from the last announcement.

[UMDBulldog]

I had the same thing happen. Here's my 2 cents(speculation). I heard AVUE sent a lot of "thanks, but NO thanks" emails to a lot of applicants. However, I received one to schedule my medical examination. I was told to schedule it ASAP. I completed it this past Thursday. I talked to the Supervisor in my state, and he said that the FAMS don't want to waste money on people doing medicals. Therefore, if they asked you to do one, they are getting ready to hire you. He said once he gets an email that I am medically cleared, he is going to have me down that same week. I talked to him about the new announcement and the confusion it brought. I was told to re-apply under the new one, but continue the process with the old one. He stated they wouldn't have you do the medical if they were just going to throw it out and make you re-do one for the new announcement. Take it for what it's worth. I would like to think Positive and believe there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I don't want to get my hopes up. The whole FAMS process is kind of crazy. In the dark for the most part. Anyone else other than myself and JHOSS get the email to do a medical?

[JHoss]

Thanks for the post. That's extremely encouraging at a time when nothings seems to be going very well. I tried to get my apt scheduled Friday when I received the email, but of course no one answered at any of the offices, so I am hoping to be able to get it knocked out tomorrow

[Up_On_Base]

Thanks for the post. That's extremely encouraging at a time when nothings seems to be going very well. I tried to get my apt scheduled Friday when I received the email, but of course no one answered at any of the offices, so I am hoping to be able to get it knocked out tomorrow

JHoss - what announcement did you apply under?

I applied for both June 07 and the most recent one, I got the COE and filled out BI info in June but did not hear anything yet.

[JHoss]

I applied back in september 06, had the panel about a month later, and this is the first time I have seen any progress since then

[Patrio72]

I applied in March 2006. I completed all steps by December 2006. I re-certified my application 6 days after receiving the BQA email. I confirmed with FAMS that the re-cert email was sent in error. So, in my case it appears as if they did waste money and time processing me.

I will re-apply but am not holding my breath.

Patriot72

[UMDBulldog]

JHOSS-
I don't want to give you any false hope, but he really pushed the point that they wouldn't spend money on you to make you re-do everything in the process. Lets keep our fingers crossed. He told me he will receive an email this week about my medical and (fingers crossed) and call me down this week to get my physical done and send my papers to DC. Hopefully this is some good news.

[RED DRAGON]

I Also Received The Same E-mail Requesting Me To Schedule The Medical. I Did My Interview In June Of 2007. Still Have Other Steps To Complete.

[marinecop2]

I Also Received The Same E-mail Requesting Me To Schedule The Medical. I Did My Interview In June Of 2007. Still Have Other Steps To Complete.

Seems like they are trying to ramp up some more applicants to complete the process. Maybe there will be an additional academy after the one scheduled for March.

[RED DRAGON]

I Just Got A Call Back This Morning To Schedule My Medical.

[kw111]

I just got "the call" to report to the Boston FO the beginning of March. Then off to Artesia shortly thereafter......
Call came from 703 area code.

[Up_On_Base]

I just got "the call" to report to the Boston FO the beginning of March. Then off to Artesia shortly thereafter......
Call came from 703 area code.


Nice work...maybe all these calls going out will mean some of us will get to move on in the process. Looks like FAMS got some money for training new people, I would think there is many vacancies from people leaving the agency due to retirement and other opps.

[knightrider26]

Congrats KW111 on the job.

[exeproagent]

I just call the email to go and do my medical how long after and whats next. b4 hire

[exeproagent]

also if you get hired and decided not to take the offer how long do you have if you reconsider. I heard something about 2 yrs from that date to stay in system

[HDbluelite]

I just got "the call" to report to the Boston FO the beginning of March. Then off to Artesia shortly thereafter......
Call came from 703 area code.

Congrats KW111....hopefully more calls for our group! PM me with info on the call..

[Md094]

I have recently submitted my application for this new process. I have a few questions that hopefully people can answer:

1. How many weekends a month are you usually home?
2. What is the typical work schedule in terms of days on and off?
3. At what point do they determine your duty assignment station?
4. How do they decide at what grade you enter? Or, does everyone have to start at the bottom if you are a new, non-federal employee?
5. I turn 36 in June, is there enough time to complete the process? (Yes, I'm getting old.) :( :eek:
6. Are there any perks that come with all of the flying like frequent flyer miles, etc?

[magic001aj]

GOT THE CALL TODAY!!!!! NEW YORK FIELD OFFICE REPORT IN MARCH
MY TIMELINE :
05/06: Applied/COE
06/06: Interview/ Drug Screen/
08/06: Fingerprints
09/06: Medical
10/06 Psyc
12/06: PTA/ Transcripts
02/07: Recert App.

PLEASE PM ME IF YOU ARE GOING HERE ALSO!!!

[Rather_Static]

I am excited for all you guys whom got the call!

[HDbluelite]

congrats! I hope NYC goes well!

[knightrider26]

Congrats to both of you!!!

[thermop6]

Well, there's another spot at the LAFO, hopefully for someone here. I withdrew my name today and won't be reporting in March after getting the call 3 weeks ago. I wish I could convey emotion without using a dopey emoticon because you'd be able to see how frustrated/****ed I am. Those of you with wives understand..

I suppose this will have to suffice: :(

Good luck everyone.

[Love_Ulcer]

Well, there's another spot at the LAFO, hopefully for someone here. I withdrew my name today and won't be reporting in March after getting the call 3 weeks ago. I wish I could convey emotion without using a dopey emoticon because you'd be able to see how frustrated/****ed I am. Those of you with wives understand..

I suppose this will have to suffice: :(

Good luck everyone.

It takes true courage to sacrifice one's opportunity to better his family. I wish you luck in your future endeavors.

[Rather_Static]

Anyone get an email from AVUE today telling us to reapply?

[datfas]

Thermop6,
Good luck with the future!! Sorry to hear the bad news.

[David95XJ]

is there a number to AVUE?

I decided that i am not really eligible for Pay Band I and i can't go back and take that out of my application.

The "tech services" page is not working for me (i do have a MAC) and i really don't want to submit my application with blank or "i am not qualified" through the PAY BAND I KSA's

Thank you.

[thermop6]

Thanks guys. Even though I'm frustrated, I still think I made the right decision in the end. I think I was put on the earth to be a good husband and father, not an air marshal, as flippin cool as that would have been...

Thanks to manstown and other FAMs here for invaluable advice that helped me make my decision. I really wish all of you the best.

[Tachibana]

is there a number to AVUE?

I decided that i am not really eligible for Pay Band I and i can't go back and take that out of my application.

The "tech services" page is not working for me (i do have a MAC) and i really don't want to submit my application with blank or "i am not qualified" through the PAY BAND I KSA's

Thank you.


I had the same problem. Going for G so the others really dont matter. Cant work on AVUE too long, breaks you down.

[oflove13]

I got the email to re apply today also. I started the process last year interviewed, took the medical they called me for my transcrips but after being a flight attendant for 6 1/2 years, and being a cop i kind of like coming home every night and having a life, But i do miss flying hard decision maybe ill re-apply and see if i get a second chance and by then i will be able to decide if i want to go back to living in a different city every day.

[northeast_fleo]

If you turn down an offer usually you're not given a second offer. There are just too many applicants to go back to someone who's already said no once.

[formerFAM]

Well, there's another spot at the LAFO, hopefully for someone here. I withdrew my name today and won't be reporting in March after getting the call 3 weeks ago. I wish I could convey emotion without using a dopey emoticon because you'd be able to see how frustrated/****ed I am. Those of you with wives understand..

I suppose this will have to suffice: :(

Good luck everyone.

[gonefishin]

I have recently submitted my application for this new process. I have a few questions that hopefully people can answer:

1. How many weekends a month are you usually home?
2. What is the typical work schedule in terms of days on and off?
3. At what point do they determine your duty assignment station?
4. How do they decide at what grade you enter? Or, does everyone have to start at the bottom if you are a new, non-federal employee?
5. I turn 36 in June, is there enough time to complete the process? (Yes, I'm getting old.) :( :eek:
6. Are there any perks that come with all of the flying like frequent flyer miles, etc?


I'll try to answer these questions in order....
1. Depends on the schedule.....in the office I work in the schedules rotate so some months you have every weekend off and other months you have none off....and even if you are supposed to have weekends you can loose them if you are put on an international rotation.
2. 5 on 2 off....however with roating schedules you can end up working more than 5 in a row
3. When you get the call they will tell you where you are going.
4. Just about everyone starts at G but some start high G...after three years just about everyone makes the same when they hit I
5. 37 is the cut off....its not out of the question but make sure you emphasize when you apply and interview that you will be 37 in June
6. No perks with flying...we can collect hotel points

[Md094]

Thank you for the information. I hope things work out and I can give it a go. I'm excited to get out of local law enforcement and into something new and challenging.

[RED DRAGON]

I Completed The Medical Portion Today , So What Comes Next?

[UMDBulldog]

I completed my last week. I think now we sit and wait for our medicals to make their way to DC and then DC calls our local FO to schedule our physical then we sit and wait! YAY!

[UMDBulldog]

Good news though. They dumped a lot of applicants and the ones waiting are trying to get put in the April class... Just a rumor...possibly truth.

[marinecop2]

Good news though. They dumped a lot of applicants and the ones waiting are trying to get put in the April class... Just a rumor...possibly truth.

April class, that would be great? Last I heard though there wasn't any news passed this March class. Maybe those hires will be going to the other field offices under the new announcement. Where and when did this information get disseminated?

[UMDBulldog]

I heard last week they are going to be trying to fill an April class. Good source. So thats why they are trying to get me in for my physical.

[Md094]

Has anyone who applied for the current openings heard anything? I checked the AVUE status and it just says:

Series-Grade Status of Application
Status of Vacancy
1801-05 Complete - Tentatively Passed Basic Qualifications No Selection Made
1801-12 Complete - Tentatively Passed Basic Qualifications No Selection Made
1801-13 Complete - Tentatively Passed Basic Qualifications No Selection Made

[jlhill16]

I also got the e-mail to reapply and then thirty minutes later I recieved an e-mail to schedule a physical! I scheduled the physical for Monday, do I need to reapply?
Help!

[Love_Ulcer]

Has anyone who applied for the current openings heard anything? I checked the AVUE status and it just says:

At this point, the only POC will be your designated interviewer(s). May take couple of months until you hear anything.

[JHoss]

“Just had a meeting with the saic of my office today and he said they upped the number to 410 new hires for the year. 96 have already been hired and the rest by the end of the summer. I asked about the Miami office and he said that we would be getting about 20 of the new hires. I was kind of surprised with the new numbers. Also he said that all new hires will be hired off the new announcement with the exception of the 96 who have already received hire dates. Not sure why the new announcement but if you tested already you will not need to retest. So that is the news for today.”

So what does this mean for the guys scheduled for their medical under the old announcement?

[horse]

that is a real good question,what will happen to the people that are waiting around still or the ones that have thier medical coming up off the old process. they never cease to amaze me

[Rather_Static]

..said they upped the number to 410 new hires for the year...

Cool lets hope we all get in!

[Kappa Cop]

Got the call for a PT exam next week.
04/07-Applied/COE
04/07-Fingerprints
05/07-Interview/Drug Screening
01/08-Medical

[UMDBulldog]

I received a call to do my PT test as well. In two weeks I did a Medical, PT, SAC interview, and the morning I was going to do my PT I got an email to fax in my transcripts. Whew....can you believe it? Sounds promising =)

[marinecop2]

Kappa Cop / UMDBulldog

I assume you both have applied and still processing under the old announcement correct? Also, did you apply under new one?

[Kappa Cop]

I did apply under the old announcement and was told that the new annoucement did not pertain to me, so I was told not to worry about applying. Also, heard there was a April class to be filled. Let's see what happens.

[jlhill16]

I'm gonna kick the dead horse one more time. I finished my Physical last week, do I need to reapply under the new announcement or do I need to hurry up and wait?

[horse]

im wondering what fams would say if your vision is green red color deficient,not blind,just a little deficient?

[datfas]

Well based on my resources HR is still hiring off of the old vacancy announcement. They are currently trying to fill an April class and that is why many people are being hurried to complete the process. If I hear anything about them hiring off the new vacancy announcement I will pass it on. Good luck to those still on the old vacancy list, hope you like NY or Boston.

[nyguy1202]

Hey all I have been reading along as well, I started this process in the summer of 05, within the last 3 weeks everything picked up. Completed the PTA and sent in documents within a 2 week period. When we went for our PT test we were informed they were fast tracking us so…who knows….got a call last week to verify something on my military documents. That’s the last I heard, fingers crossed and waiting….cant get your hopes up to much cause then months go by and you move on….then you get another call or email…I hope this is the end and changed come about this is a weird system they have of hurry up and wait…I though the military was slow at times but the FAMS takes it on this one. Good luck to everyone hope we all meet up at the academy someday very soon.


08/05: Applied/COE
10/05: Fingerprints
11/05: Background Packet
09/06: Interview/Drug Screen
02/07: Recert App.
04/07: Recert BI
01/08: Medical
01/08: PTA/Drug Screen Recert
01/08: Request for Transcripts

Dates are blurry to me at this point.....

[Md094]

I am wondering if they will finish up filling up the April class before they even start looking at the new applications. Maybe there will be some movement after they get the April class finished up?

[marinecop2]

I am wondering if they will finish up filling up the April class before they even start looking at the new applications. Maybe there will be some movement after they get the April class finished up?

My question is will the next class (hopefully April) be hiring for locations off of the new announcement since there seems to be a demand for new hires at several other offices?

[RED DRAGON]

I got a call this morning from the local field office to come in and do some administrative paperwork. They said it will take about thirty minutes. Later on today I also received a phone call to schedule my pt test on the same day and also received a e-mail requesting college transcript.

[nyguy1202]

I got a call this morning from the local field office to come in and do some administrative paperwork. They said it will take about thirty minutes. Later on today I also received a phone call to schedule my pt test on the same day and also received a e-mail requesting college transcript.


Well good luck to you Red Dragon, knock the PT test out and hopefully you get a buzz soon from the good ol 3 digit area code...

[UMDBulldog]

It took forever to get my transcripts into HQ. I have completed it. WHEW. Finally. It's all done with. Now, I will sit and wait....and wait...and probably wait some more. YESSSS! I am being backgrounded with another agency, so I am kind of hoping they both hit at the same time....

[jlhill16]

Go Dawg! Im sure they will both hit at the same time and then you get to make the life changing decision. Also, good luck Dragon!

[UMDBulldog]

I was wondering if using that superglue to glue my phone to my hip would be a bad idea? Anyone run into any problems doing this?

[VCSOMotor91]

Marine Cop 2, where in Florida are you working?

[marinecop2]

Marine Cop 2, where in Florida are you working?

Check your PM

[Rather_Static]

Got the medical exam email last night...I am assuming it is from the old announcement.

[jlhill16]

It should be because I applied Jan 07 and I just did my medical last week. Cmon physical test call!!!!

[Rather_Static]

It should be because I applied Jan 07 and I just did my medical last week. Cmon physical test call!!!!


Jan of '07?...you just started, sheeesh!

:p

(Dec of '05 here, just got the email for the medical last night)

[Up_On_Base]

I am still waiting to hear something from my June 07 application. It say it's still pending on Avue.

I also applied to new announcement.

[jlhill16]

Rather,
They must really like you to hang on to you for so long!!!!!

[VCSOMotor91]

Has anyone applied and heard anything from the new announcement yet? Im sure its going to take awhile from reading all of your posts. Any of you guys applying in the Florida area?

[Rather_Static]

Rather,
They must really like you to hang on to you for so long!!!!!

lol..you think?

Avue screwed the pooch for a few months...but I did end up doing the panel interview March of '07.

I got my medical scheduled for the 2nd week of March of '08.

[UMDBulldog]

Well I thought I was done with everything....
I got a call yesterday to do ANOTHER drug screen (mine was over 120 days old). As fate had it, I was off yesterday and able to slide in to complete one. It rocked. Anyways, My fate lies in the hands of DC right now.... Good luck all.

[marinecop2]

Well I thought I was done with everything....
I got a call yesterday to do ANOTHER drug screen (mine was over 120 days old). As fate had it, I was off yesterday and able to slide in to complete one. It rocked. Anyways, My fate lies in the hands of DC right now.... Good luck all.

Same thing happened to me in December having to recert a drug test and pta. Does anyone know about the medical and when that expires? A year has almost gone by since my last one and was curious if that is usually recerted or do applicants get hired before the medical expires.

[VCSOMotor91]

Can anyone that has taken the fitness test advise what the best score/points are for the Physical Fitness test? I heard the run should be under 10 minutes for a perfect score. I havent heard anything in regards to the sit-up's, push-up's, and Pull-up's. Any info would be much appreciated.

[kw111]

Same thing happened to me in December having to recert a drug test and pta. Does anyone know about the medical and when that expires? A year has almost gone by since my last one and was curious if that is usually recerted or do applicants get hired before the medical expires.

I'd taken mine back in October '06 and they said it was still valid when I got the offer 2 weeks ago. I did not have to recert it either.

[marinecop2]

I'd taken mine back in October '06 and they said it was still valid when I got the offer 2 weeks ago. I did not have to recert it either.


Thanks for the good news.

[jlhill16]

What does "report to the field office for thirty minutes of administrative work mean"? Anyone know?

[marinecop2]

What does "report to the field office for thirty minutes of administrative work mean"? Anyone know?

Never heard that one before. Did you get called recently and told this?

[jlhill16]

I got a call this past Thursday afternoon.

[marinecop2]

I got a call this past Thursday afternoon.

Have you conducted your PTA? They just mentioned it was admin related?

[jlhill16]

He said it was not the pta, just administrative!

[kamkze]

Just found this forum. I am going in for my physical tomm and was told my pta will be before the end of the month so we will see. What steps are left after that?

[jlhill16]

kamk,
The only thing left after the pta is the language test. You have to be able to interpret two paragraphs in Mandarin Chinese. :)The only thing after pta is to hurry up and wait!

[marinecop2]

kamk,
The only thing left after the pta is the language test. You have to be able to interpret two paragraphs in Mandarin Chinese.


Priceless. Like the process isn't stressful enough. LOL

[jlhill16]

I thought yall would like that!!!:D I am waiting to take my PTA also.

[kamkze]

Well I guess I will just sit and wait on the pta call or email then. Thanks for the info!

[knightrider26]

Well after all this waiting (2 1/2) I finally received the call today. Thank you for keeping me updated throughout the entire process. Good luck to you all and keep the faith alive.

[UMDBulldog]

What office did they offer you?

[jlhill16]

I got the call and I will take the PTA on Tuesday!

[kamkze]

Well I finished up the medical with no probs, now I wait on the pta. Hope they can get this done fast enough!! What is the standard process on the clearance side of things, do you have to get an interim before you can go to training? Is the April class supposed to be the last class this year?

[UMDBulldog]

Good luck on the PTA. It's not bad if you're ready for it. The guy who did mine was very nice and pushed me; he didn't just sit there and record scores. I wonder what's brewing up in DC's for the FAMS. Someone got the call today (possibly for an April class). Are there more coming? Be optimistic fellas.

[jlhill16]

I appreciate it(PTA) The only problem I am having is the 1.5 mile run. Ive been on the couch for too long. I am keeping my head up but it seems like they rush you for two weeks and then nothing. The FAMs person I spoke with today said he had to get my group finished by the end of the month. I dont know what that means but I am keeping hope alive.

[kamkze]

Yeah good luck JlHill. Has anyone heard if there will be more classes after april? I am being realistic that my packet will not be ready for review by april so I hope there are more classes.

[UMDBulldog]

What do you mean ready? If it goes to DC does that mean it's "ready". I know after my PTA I had an interview with the SAC and he said he was forwarding me to DC. Hopefully that is good news!

[kamkze]

What do you mean ready? If it goes to DC does that mean it's "ready". I know after my PTA I had an interview with the SAC and he said he was forwarding me to DC. Hopefully that is good news!


I still have to do my PTA before it can be sent to DC, correct? So I dont have a clue when I will be scheduled for my PTA.

[David95XJ]

Congrats to those guys nearing the end of this long haul....

Has anyone heard anything from the new posting? Are we going to be required to take an entrance/rating exam (similar to ICE, CBP, etc)?

Thanks!

[kamkze]

Congrats to those guys nearing the end of this long haul....

Has anyone heard anything from the new posting? Are we going to be required to take an entrance/rating exam (similar to ICE, CBP, etc)?

Thanks!

I havent revceived any info from the new posting, when did you submit your app?

[UMDBulldog]

I re-applied under the NEW announcement only to be safe. I got a call to do medical, then PTA, then DS all within in 2 weeks. I believe my file is sitting in DC right now, so I think that the NEW announcement is only for those (or new ones) who applied and got the BQA. Submit a new one just to be safe is my guess. What do I know though? I tried to figure this process out, but came up short :). Haha

[IowaDPTY]

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[knightrider26]

My Field Office Is New York

[nyguy1202]

My Field Office Is New York
awesome bro, congrants to you, when do you start and head out to school, i am waiting on the call so my fingers are crossed. I am from NY and applied for the NY office so hope to see ya there if i make it through.

[Brightshape]

Gents/Gals, I applied July 6th, 2005 and after 2 years/7 months (31 months:eek:).................

I have finally GOT THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, I am excited. I report to Newark, NJ, next month.

Good luck to all still waiting, believe me, I sympathize. Any questions, shoot me a PM.

[UMDBulldog]

Awesome. Good luck to you. April class? That's def a good wait time. Happy for you. Get ready to rock!

[marinecop2]

The waiting is finally over. I got my call today for Newark FO. Keep the faith everyone. God bless.

[jlhill16]

Way to go folks that have been hired!!!! Keep the rest of us in the loop so we don't pull our hair out!!!

[nyguy1202]

Hey bro's and sisters, I got the call today for the NYC field office, i start in March...my school date is in May so it seems theres a may class aswell keep the faith. FINALLY YES!!!! Good luck to all hope you all get the call soon and hope to see you guys in School.

08/05: Applied/COE
10/05: Fingerprints
11/05: Background Packet
09/06: Interview/Drug Screen
02/07: Recert App.
04/07: Recert BI
01/08: Medical
01/08: PTA/Drug Screen Recert
01/08: Request for Transcripts
2/21/08 Got the call, EOD 03/08

[UMDBulldog]

Since my phone is glued to my hip, I am worried it won't ring. Sounds like some calls went out today. Lets hope they keep coming. Did they offer you 1 FO or a few?

[kamkze]

Well since it looks like there is a class in May, I might just have enough time to get my pta done and get in that class, well atleast I hope!

[VCSOMotor91]

It sounds like the wheels are turning. Congrats. Keep us posted on your progress throughout school.

[SOLO]

Congrats to u lucky batsards that got the call. Hope I get some of that gravy sent my way before I dive back into this military thing.

[nyguy1202]

Since my phone is glued to my hip, I am worried it won't ring. Sounds like some calls went out today. Lets hope they keep coming. Did they offer you 1 FO or a few?
i applied for NYC and thats what i was offered, i didnt even bother to ask about anything defferent since thats what i wanted and where i live..

[nyguy1202]

It sounds like the wheels are turning. Congrats. Keep us posted on your progress throughout school.
no problem, bro i know the feeling i applied in Aug 05 and just now got it all done so things are looking up across the board, i have heard of a few people aside from here that i know getting calls so keep that phone on, and be ready to do wht ever they need asap the sooner the better since they are selecting a select number in contrast to the folks applying.....Keep the hope alive....P.S. the call came from a 703 number...

[UMDBulldog]

Sounds good. Anyone else offered anything else? Will you be at your FO for 2 weeks first?

[nyguy1202]

Congrats to u lucky batsards that got the call. Hope I get some of that gravy sent my way before I dive back into this military thing.
im quitting from the military gig i got goingn on now so i am feel ya...

[nyguy1202]

Sounds good. Anyone else offered anything else? Will you be at your FO for 2 weeks first?
ill be n the office for almost a month class is scheduled for may but it maybe subject to change per the documents sent

[knightrider26]

So yea, I will be in the NY office. When I received the call, it came from an unknown number. I wasn't even going to answer it (i never do). So people, make sure you answer everything because you never know. But when I did get the number from the HR lady, it was a 703 number.. But good luck you the rest of you and if you have any questions hit me up.

[Steve03xx]

Hi all.

I'm almost ready to submit my application through Avue, but I am missing my college transcripts. Can I submit my transcripts at a later date, or should I wait until I have the transcripts uploaded?

Any help is appreciated.

[kamkze]

You can add your transcripts at a later date, but the sooner the better.

[SMOOTH149]

Guys,
I apologize because I'm almost positive that out of 121 pages this has been discussed before, but I couldn't make it all the way through these posts (although very informative). Can anyone direct me as to where I can find out the pre-employment physical test standards. Thanks all and GOOD LUCK!

[kamkze]

What is your sex and age?

[SMOOTH149]

Male, 23......Thanks Again!

[UMDBulldog]

Any movement today?

[kamkze]

Male, 23......Thanks Again!

Ok you are in the same bracket as me, so for the

RUN

under 10:17 is excellent, 10:17 to 11:41 is good, 11:42 to 12:51 is fair, 12:52to 14:13 is poor and over 14:13 very poor.

PULLUPS

over 10 excel., 9-10 good, 7-8 fair, 5-6 poor and under 5 very poor

SITUPS

over 46 excel., 42-46 good, 38-41 fair, 33-37 poor and under 33 very poor

PUSHUPS

over 54 excel., 50-54 good, 46-49 fair, 38- 45 poor and under 38 very poor

hope that helps

[SOLO]

my first app i put in for DC NY and NJ, i put in for all openings on the second app. what do u guys think?

[Brightshape]

my first app i put in for DC NY and NJ, i put in for all openings on the second app. what do u guys think?

It's all about options, my friend. So the more openings you add to your list, the better chance you'll have of being selected when that time comes.;)