Air Marshal Job Open !

[DWCgrad]

How did you find out you were only qualified?

HR in DC. --- someone who knows someone and checked

[marinecop2]

What is the PSP?

PA State Police

[John3:16]

Amen to that brother(marinecop2).........I wish you well in the academy. I applied for the air marshal job but I did not have my 4 year degree. I am still working on that. My hopes now are for the MGPD in florida. I work for a good department in Massachusetts, and make good money but now I am chasing the weather.

[manstown]

But you don't need a degree for FAMS.

[dtown101]

Amen to that brother(marinecop2).........I wish you well in the academy. I applied for the air marshal job but I did not have my 4 year degree. I am still working on that. My hopes now are for the MGPD in florida. I work for a good department in Massachusetts, and make good money but now I am chasing the weather.

MGPD- that is in a rough area....

[INTHEAIRCOP]

1) Applied in DEC 2001
2) Assement in ATlantic City,phscy,panel interview, etc. MAY 2002
3) Start date JUNE 8,2002
4) Six week training in Artesia, NM. (6 days a week with only Sundays off)
5) Four week training in Atlantin City, NJ (5 days a week with weekends off)
4) Been flying ever since. No office job ever and I am truly a flying FAM.

[marinecop2]

Amen to that brother(marinecop2).........I wish you well in the academy. I applied for the air marshal job but I did not have my 4 year degree. I am still working on that. My hopes now are for the MGPD in florida. I work for a good department in Massachusetts, and make good money but now I am chasing the weather.


Wish you well with MGPD. I don't blame you for chasing the weather. I myself have seen enough sun to last for a while. MGPD is definately good money if you don't mind the area. It's a brand new department so it should be great to start off there. Let me know how it goes for you. God Bless

[STL]

What is MGPD????

[orangeshirt]

miami gardens police department

[dnehack]

Not much to report, but just received a email from my POC in HRO just saying hang in there still nothing yet. Still looks like the end of May/June time frame.

[UMDBulldog]

Not much to report, but just received a email from my POC in HRO just saying hang in there still nothing yet. Still looks like the end of May/June time frame.

I just interviewed today. Whew...finally feels good to get that under my belt. SO anyone have any insights about the rest of the process. I believe all i have left is my medical and PT. Nothing was mentioned about a psych test.

Quick question for everyone...has anyone NOT passed the interview? I guess I want to know what I am looking for. When do they make cuts? Would a bad interview possibly stop your process. If anyone knows anything about when they make cuts please speak up. Thanks!

[dnehack]

UMD, you should have taken the urine test after the interview. I guess they could have changed the process, but most of us that are finished took a urine test if you passed the interview. The medical will be the next step if you have not completed that yet. You can not take the PTA until you are cleared for medical. Hope this helps.

[UMDBulldog]

Yes, sorry. I forgot to mention that I did have a U/A right after. Hurry up and wait it was what i have been hearing...haha. When does the BI start? None of my references have been called yet.

[magic001aj]

UMD when i went for my interview i saw a 2 people leave w/o taking the U/A test. Im guessing they didn't make the cut.

[dnehack]

They will do the basic BI NCIC and Credit check until you officially get hired. Once you get hired they will finish the rest of the TSI. I only had one reference call and that was my supervisor with the LEO. Hope this helps.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I am was on the oral board. You are to do a **** test if you passed the interview. if you do not take the **** test then you did not make the cut.

[marinecop2]

They will do the basic BI NCIC and Credit check until you officially get hired. Once you get hired they will finish the rest of the TSI. I only had one reference call and that was my supervisor with the LEO. Hope this helps.

How soon before you got the call to offer you the position did they contact your supervisor with the LEO?

[dnehack]

Marine, I have not been hired yet. My supervisor with the LEO was called after I interviewed with the FO. I received the call but was out of town on vacation and was unable to sign my paperwork. By the time I got back in touch with them all hiring was frozen. As you can see hiring is still frozen. I did hear that they opened a FO in Tampa last month along with two other FO. Pretty interesting news. I am interested in seeing when hiring resumes where they start hiring at. They took a lot of FAMS from the Orlando and Miami FO to feel the Tampa FO.

[knightrider26]

I took the **** test right after the interview along with the psyc. test. I was told prior to the interview that a long day was good and a short day was bad. Needless to say I was there for like 7 or 8 hours. But most of the guys in my group I believe passed the oral interview.

[UMDBulldog]

Is anyone allowed to talk about where they interviewed?(state)

I feel like i finally make some progress, but I am very cautious to say that I am getting there. Sounds like a lot of people have already been passed this point in their process. I appreciate everyone throwing their two cents in. I guess it's good to hear what everyone else is going through. Anyone take their medical yet? How was it? Some say thats the hardest part?

[dnehack]

UMD I woudnt say its the hardest part, but I thought it was the most unorganized.

[igneous]

Is anyone allowed to talk about where they interviewed?(state)

I feel like i finally make some progress, but I am very cautious to say that I am getting there. Sounds like a lot of people have already been passed this point in their process. I appreciate everyone throwing their two cents in. I guess it's good to hear what everyone else is going through. Anyone take their medical yet? How was it? Some say thats the hardest part?
It wasnt hard, just very in depth. I think its pretty much equal to an FAA class 1 physical.

[knightrider26]

The medical wasn't bad. Just make sure your paperwork is correct the first time. If not you'll have to go back to complete the processes that was missed. But all in all nothing to worry about.

[tua]

Can I susbsitute a recent medical exam I had with the USSS for the FAMS medical eval??

[UMDBulldog]

What are some pointers for the medical? I guess what are some DQ's other than vision and hearing?

[orangeshirt]

It wasnt hard, just very in depth. I think its pretty much equal to an FAA class 1 physical.



actually, I believe it's a Class II.




medical standards:

http://www.aviation.uiuc.edu/main/docs/AcadInfoPack/MedicalStandards.htm


i've been gettin' class I's every six months for the last 7 years. booooooo.

[igneous]

actually, I believe it's a Class II.
I thought it was too, but the only difference between them is the class 1 has an EKG, and I had that done too.

[orangeshirt]

I thought it was too, but the only difference between them is the class 1 has an EKG, and I had that done too.


if that's the case, then i stand corrected. it will be a class I. i posted the standards in a link up above.

(i havent gotten the FAMS medical yet)

[igneous]

if that's the case, then i stand corrected. it will be a class I. i posted the standards in a link up above.

(i havent gotten the FAMS medical yet)
I took mine a long time ago, so maybe they dropped the ekg, but I doubt it.

[knightrider26]

No they did not drop the EKG. I had it done when I did the Medical back in August.

[Lazer]

I just interviewed today. Whew...finally feels good to get that under my belt. SO anyone have any insights about the rest of the process. I believe all i have left is my medical and PT. Nothing was mentioned about a psych test.

Quick question for everyone...has anyone NOT passed the interview? I guess I want to know what I am looking for. When do they make cuts? Would a bad interview possibly stop your process. If anyone knows anything about when they make cuts please speak up. Thanks!


If you failed the interview they would have pulled you aside right there and told you. You got the hardest part past you, now it is a waiting game.

[Lazer]

Yes, sorry. I forgot to mention that I did have a U/A right after. Hurry up and wait it was what i have been hearing...haha. When does the BI start? None of my references have been called yet.


Your BI will be the very last thing they do.

[Lazer]

UMD I woudnt say its the hardest part, but I thought it was the most unorganized.


You got that right. I had to go back a second time to give blood because they said the first viles sent out broke in the mail, this was a month after I took the medical. They could not find my veins to take blood the second time, crazy. The first time they took my blood they punctured through my vein and it bled all in my arm, had a big *** bruise for a week. Crazy stuff, don't wish that on any of you about to take the medical. Besides that all is good!!!

[Lazer]

I am was on the oral board. You are to do a **** test if you passed the interview. if you do not take the **** test then you did not make the cut.


Has anyone else besides me received a call from DC headquarters asking them to make sure they have turned in their Psych Cert form? Had the call on April 6.

[knightrider26]

No Lazer. I have not received a call. But I did re-send the cert in. It seems like I've been in this process forever now.. .

[UMDBulldog]

Thank you Lazer. I was wondering if someone could guess how many applicants are still in the running. Makes me curious.

[marinecop2]

Thank you Lazer. I was wondering if someone could guess how many applicants are still in the running. Makes me curious.


Applicants in the running, couldn't say. Number of applicants, I heard in the thousands.

[FED2BE]

It is the most messed up process I have ever seen. I applied for the position back in 7/05. I got a conditional offer soon after and filled out all the forms they wanted. I heard absolutely nothing from them until Mid Jan 2007. I got a request to submit my fingerprint cards. After that nothing until a few weeks ago I had to turn in the Mental Health Certificate. Then today I get an email from Avue saying that they have enough better qualified applicants to fill the positions available and my app is no longer being considered. Tell me that isn't crazy. How do you get turned down before they ever test you?? No interveiw, Pat, medical, phyc.....NOTHING. My criminal record is clean, zero... nada...zilch. I have never seen anything like this FAMS process.

[FED2BE]

Oh and I forgot, when I called to make sure they had my MHC in the system Avue said that there were serveral thousand applicants and she beleived there were only a few hundred positions at best.

[manstown]

They could probably tell from the KSA's. If your KSA's don't make the grade, they can tell if others are better qualified. And from what I have heard recently.....I don't think the number is in the 100's anymore which makes it that much more competitive. But no one can say for sure. Just what I heard around the office. As I stated before, if you're not done with the process, you're more then likely going to be put into a pool of applicants for future openings which may not happen. And it is the Federal Government so everything about it is crazy.

[kw111]

Hey, I havent been active here lately just because nothing new has been happening and I had nothing to say.
I got a call this morning requesting my latest transcripts and the FAM i spoke to said my package would be done today and "passed on to the hiring board" this next week.
Not really news, but at least they havent forgotten us...

[manstown]

Was it a 609 area code?

[knightrider26]

That's good KW111.. I'm glad to hear things are moving along. How long have you been in the process for? I'm waiting to get that call you just received.

[knightrider26]

609 area code is in South Jersey. Moreso near Atlantic City

[knightrider26]

609 area code is in South Jersey. More so near Atlantic City

[manstown]

609 area code is in South Jersey. Moreso near Atlantic City

I know that's in the ACY area. I was asking because if the call came from that area code, the next one should be the one everybody's waiting for.

[tua]

I know that's in the ACY area. I was asking because if the call came from that area code, the next one should be the one everybody's waiting for.

lol, people really need to stop skimming posts and read them thoroughly! There is a big difference between was it a 609.. and what is a 609... lol

[kw111]

Was it a 609 area code?

Nah, still 703 area code. It was the FAMS investigator saying he was passing on my completed file with SAC recommendation... not "the call" yet.
And I've been in the process since February of '06.

[UMDBulldog]

I don't understand this process real well. First off, there are a lot of people who have applied. If they are talking about too many applicants YET still passing people through to the pool, what is the point? I guess this process seems real weird to me. If there is such an abundance of qualified people, why would they keep having people interview? I interviewed earlier on this week, but what would the point of that be? Talk about a rollercoaster ride. I get excited because I do well on the interview, yet they probably won't be hiring....geeez.

[Lazer]

Nah, still 703 area code. It was the FAMS investigator saying he was passing on my completed file with SAC recommendation... not "the call" yet.
And I've been in the process since February of '06.


I am in the same boat, got that same call a month ago or so.

[manstown]

I don't understand this process real well. First off, there are a lot of people who have applied. If they are talking about too many applicants YET still passing people through to the pool, what is the point? I guess this process seems real weird to me. If there is such an abundance of qualified people, why would they keep having people interview? I interviewed earlier on this week, but what would the point of that be? Talk about a rollercoaster ride. I get excited because I do well on the interview, yet they probably won't be hiring....geeez.

Like I said before, the reason they are still interviewing is to build a pool of applicants for future hiring. Again, who knows when that will be. And that's not out of the ordinary for the Federal system. Agencies do it all the time. If they start to hire at a later date, they will have people to call without going through the whole process. After 9/11 they had some odd thousands apply. those that didn't get hired were put on a list for future hiring. Talked to a few guys I use to work with who applied back then and forgot about. But when this new hiring started they were called. That was what......3 or 4 years later. It happens.

[marinecop2]

Just got an email asking to recertify and update my background investigation information. Did anyone else get this email? It asked to have it completed ASAP basically. Is this standard procedure or is this a step in the right direction in reference to hiring this year? Not sure what to think anymore. :confused:

[Patrick1972]

Maybe it's me but I am having a hard time certifying my SF-86. It says my Supplemental Information is incomplete. Am I missing something or is it Avue.

If someone else has had this problem or knows of a way for me to rectify this can someone please shoot me a PM.

P-72

[JetTroop]

I got the email too, some did, some didn't from what I gather. I actually needed to update some addresses and what not. Everything worked good for me.

[dnehack]

I received the email too, everything worked fine for me! Man one step closer. Remember guys I have been saying May/June. Good Luck!

[DWCgrad]

I received it too. Not sure what to make of it though. I really need this to happen soon, or I will be beyond the age limit in Sept.

[dnehack]

DWC, I am with you I hit the cut off in October!

[igneous]

I got it as well. This means that so far I have received:
the DQ email last july
psych recert email a few days later
recertify my app email last feb.
recertify my app email today

[Patrio72]

I just got it also. It came after the BQA from Avue... :confused:

Patriot72

[dnehack]

Pat, did you ever call HRO and see what they had to say?

[tdparmel]

I just updated my background investigation as instructed. Still no interview, though. I applied December 4, 2006.

[Patrio72]

Pat, did you ever call HRO and see what they had to say?

Yeah I called a 609 number and left a message. The lady called me back but informed me that she couldn't help me as she didn't have access to applicant information. She did proovide me with the names/numbers of two other HR people who would be able to help. I called them both and left messages but have not heard anything yet.

Patriot72

[jrnwaarmy]

I received the email too, everything worked fine for me! Man one step closer. Remember guys I have been saying May/June. Good Luck!


panel july 06 L.A.fo
saic interview, medical( DC blitz) july 06
PTA july 06 L.A.fo
fax dd214, school record aug 15 06
recert mhc feb 07
sf86 recert apr07

goodluck everybody!! soundslike a good sign!!!

[Penumbra]

Here is my 2 cents...both ingeous and Patrio are gone; if you've recieved the DQ letter then accept it, since the automated stuff obviously doesn't reflect that. In regards to the Bi recert...big ****ing deal, the next class is reportedly in July so just fill it out to stay in the running.

[dnehack]

PEN has spoken I guess we should all just sit back and shut the F@*! up! :rolleyes:

[UMDBulldog]

I think we all can stop being so hostile. Period. This process is confusing people, so I believe we can all be a little more understanding. People keep saying they have "inside" information or spout off facts on when they're pushing people through the academy. If you aren't for sure or really don't have a reliable source, don't talk about it. The more people give their two cents the more it confuses people. Thank you.

[Tower]

Here is my 2 cents...both ingeous and Patrio are gone; if you've recieved the DQ letter then accept it, since the automated stuff obviously doesn't reflect that. In regards to the Bi recert...big ****ing deal, the next class is reportedly in July so just fill it out to stay in the running.


Who are you....Negative Nancy tonight? Put yourself in their shoes...wouldn't you look for a bit of support before you dropped hope? Or would you rather have someone suggest you to **** off and deal with it?

Keep yourself in check and spread a little positivity. Chillax and don't bring the negative bs to the forum! We're all in a sh*tstorm of info and trying to find some truth in it.

[dtown101]

Who are you....Negative Nancy tonight? Put yourself in their shoes...wouldn't you look for a bit of support before you dropped hope? Or would you rather have someone suggest you to **** off and deal with it?

Keep yourself in check and spread a little positivity. Chillax and don't bring the negative bs to the forum! We're all in a sh*tstorm of info and trying to find some truth in it.

bottom line...for the ones that got the dq letter....double and triple check with hr because for most cases once you get that...you are done....but you never know with this process....good luck with finding out ur outcome.....

[tua]

Here is my 2 cents...both ingeous and Patrio are gone; if you've recieved the DQ letter then accept it, since the automated stuff obviously doesn't reflect that. In regards to the Bi recert...big ****ing deal, the next class is reportedly in July so just fill it out to stay in the running.


who are you and why are yo the be and end all of air marshal hiring

[manstown]

Have to agree with dtown. Patrio and igneous, I would get from the horses mouth before I gave up. Like I said Avue has been known to send these emails in error. It's not their call to send this. If you get DQ'd for any reason that will come from the FAMS. You can see things don't add up. I think Patrio received the recert letter after the DQ letter. Call the FAMS and get an answer from them. I know 2 guys that got the DQ letter from AVUE. They were in my Academy class.

[Patrio72]

I have been trying to contact HR. I started by calling HR in the 609 area code. The lady told me she couldn't answer any of my questions since she didn't have access to the applicant database. However, she did give me the names and numbers of two other HR folks located in the 703 area code. I called both of them last week and left messages. My gut tells me that one of the emails (BQA or BI recert) was sent to me in error? (IMO, Avue's online system has some fundamental design flaws that should be addressed). I will keep you posted.

Patriot72

[dtown101]

Have to agree with dtown. Patrio and igneous, I would get from the horses mouth before I gave up. Like I said Avue has been known to send these emails in error. It's not their call to send this. If you get DQ'd for any reason that will come from the FAMS. You can see things don't add up. I think Patrio received the recert letter after the DQ letter. Call the FAMS and get an answer from them. I know 2 guys that got the DQ letter from AVUE. They were in my Academy class.

mans...how long have you been a fam???if so what are you hearing for upcoming classes

[manstown]

Did you try to get in touch with the recruiter from the office you interviewed out of?

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Job is getting better every day. I got some food on the plane the other day. It was a surprise and a change from the peanuts.

[Patrio72]

Did you try to get in touch with the recruiter from the office you interviewed out of?

No, not yet at least...I was under the impression that the FO forwards the results of each step as it occurs (interview, drug test, PTA) to the Hiring Panel for review. Then the Hiring Panel adds to your pile which already includes the medical, resume, etc. and makes a decision. Does the FO decide whether or not an individal gets hired?

Patriot72

[manstown]

The recruiter may be more likely to get the information for you. I know they have helped out before. They can probably get in touch with the right people. If not hey can probably get a call back from them a little quicker.

[hfab262]

Everyone,

I have been through the entire air marshal process and recieved a better qualified canidate letter back in December 15, 2006. I just recently recieved a letter stating that I need to update my background and etc...?

So I called my recruiter that was assisting me with my process. He stated that he wasn't sure of why I recieved the letter other than possibly a mistake with my application. He did mention budget cuts.... And this has been a reliable source...

Does anyone have any such advise to support these emails? Im not putting a whole lot of thought into this one considering... As I am all sure you understand.

Regards,

HFAB262

[dtown101]

Everyone,

I have been through the entire air marshal process and recieved a better qualified canidate letter back in December 15, 2006. I just recently recieved a letter stating that I need to update my background and etc...?

So I called my recruiter that was assisting me with my process. He stated that he wasn't sure of why I recieved the letter other than possibly a mistake with my application. He did mention budget cuts.... And this has been a reliable source...

Does anyone have any such advise to support these emails? Im not putting a whole lot of thought into this one considering... As I am all sure you understand.

Regards,

HFAB262
just to repeat myself----bottom line...for the ones that got the dq letter....double and triple check with hr because for most cases once you get that...you are done....but you never know with this process....good luck with finding out ur outcome.....

[UMDBulldog]

What else is new? If nothing is happening in the hiring process there must be something else going on with people. Where does everyone currently work? (If you want to answer). What made everyone decide to apply to the FAMS? We might as well get something started in here...doesn't sound like anything will happen in the process anytime soon...am I correct here?

[Lazer]

Been away for a few days, checked e-mail got the background recert also, good luck all, looks like things are moving.

[Lazer]

So weird, did anyone get a e-mail from AVUE regarding the J Band applicant process? Weird, you have to be an I Band FAM to even qualify to apply, I know this one was sent to me in error, anyone else????

[marinecop2]

So weird, did anyone get a e-mail from AVUE regarding the J Band applicant process? Weird, you have to be an I Band FAM to even qualify to apply, I know this one was sent to me in error, anyone else????


I got it to and it means nothing. A while back they sent me a notice of the job opening. Once again, avue is sending information that we don't want to see.

[tdparmel]

How do you contact HR? I am not talking about AVUE, I would like to talk to the recruiters also.

[igneous]

How do you contact HR? I am not talking about AVUE, I would like to talk to the recruiters also.
You really only can if they have been in contact with you. If you haven't had your interview yet you're pretty much SOL.

[Lazer]

Igneous, you are correct. If HR has already contacted you (not AVUE) about sending in transcripts, or whatever, you probably would more than likely have success talking to someone in HR about your info.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

My boss told me today that they will only hire 65 new hires this year.

[dnehack]

I guess that means there are only 64 left!! :D

[marinecop2]

My boss told me today that they will only hire 65 new hires this year.

Just a shy off of the 250 that everyone had originally thought.

[UMDBulldog]

So....what does that sound like? If we haven't done out Medical/Physical we're pretty much out (for now?)

[dnehack]

I woudnt read to much into it right now. Things change every day with the FAMS. Wait until people start getting hired first.

[manstown]

I think we said this once or twice. It sucks I know. But if you are not done with everything, you may get called to go through the process, but it's only because they are making an applicant list for future hires. They could hire October 2nd of this year or 5 years from now. You all have seen the rumors here for hiring. But having not finished the process by now is only putting you on a future hire list.

[tua]

it seems like I keep reading the same posts over and over again....

[dnehack]

You will until they start hiring again and then you will have post that say "I received the call and I have a EOD and I am going to such and such FO" Then you will have more post asking you what was said and so on. :eek:

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Here is my 10 cents on why they may not be hirring as much as the service wanted too:

We had a brief today on the cel phone problem and this may be the reason they are not hirring to many this year. Every FAM is issued a PDA/cel. phone. Well the service was under the impression that the service would not be charged for data and text messages while over seas. Well the FAM service had some huge bills come in and each FAMs phone/pda was charged for every text message, every second on the phone, every time the FAM checked their govt. e-mail, every tine the PDA synced with the server, etc. The bottom line is the FAM service had to have a meeting with Cingular and the FAM service got the short end of the stick. The bills were in the millions and the FAM service had no idea untill it was to late. Well they have fixed the problem but I bet 10 bucks that that money came out of new hires. That is just an idea I had and do not take it to the bank.

Also the service is buying new guns for the FAMs. I do not want to say what kind of guns but they will not be the same that we have now. I am not sure if it is SSI so I will keep my mouth closed about the new weapon. The director sent an e-mail saying how many of the new guns that they were purchasing. Well if my math is correct the sum is about 12 million dollars. SO as you can see this may also be the reason they are not hirring so many new FAMS.

[cms405]

I am new to the forum...Anyway, I applied on the 18th, got the COE two minutes later, and recertified the BI on the 21st. BTW-I got the J band stuff, too. Didn't make sense, but I figured it didn't apply to me after reading the KSAs.

[UMDBulldog]

I love the Federal Government!!!

[dnehack]

Man its dead on here. Four more days of April and then off to the Money month!! Just think its been 7 months in this new FY and NO hirings! GRRRRR

[GoldBadge]

Job is getting better every day. I got some food on the plane the other day. It was a surprise and a change from the peanuts.

I was on a cattle car airplane a couple of days ago with (a) FAM(s). There was nothing pleasant about that flight (all one class of tight seats). :mad:

[dnehack]

Nothing new to report, I just finished talking to HRO and still nothing new on when hirings will start. I have been saying May/June since Jan, but I am starting to get worried about that time frame. :mad:

[Xtreme]

Nothing new to report, I just finished talking to HRO and still nothing new on when hirings will start. I have been saying May/June since Jan, but I am starting to get worried about that time frame. :mad:

a couple of us, myself included, have received instructions to set up physicals. step in the right direction. anyone else heard anything???

- mike

[Sgt JeeP]

95 pages of posts to talk about the FAM job? Come on! Don't do it. There! I saved everyone a lot of pain (reading)

First 3 months were cool, the rest of the time sucks!

I could not fathom reading 95 pages just to see what the majority of the actual flying FAMs on here have said: Bottom line, steer away from the FAMs.

-Career progession = no such thing.
-Lot's of time away from home = all the time.
-Lot's of money to be made while warming an airline seat = how does $80K and up sound?
-Policies and procedures that will get you killed = everyday occurrence
-Tactics you will walk away with to hurt someone = every week in training
-Thousands upon thousands of rounds downrange = every week in training
-Flight attendant in every city/hotel = nightly occurrence
-Missing your wife and kids = nightly occurrence
-Flying, flying, flying = daily occurrence
-Chance to kill a terrorist = every flight
-Chance to stand up and fight for your country = every flight
-Chance to see how nasty airline/airport people are = every flight
-Free nights in your choice of luxury hotels = build up enough points
-Warm nuts = occasionally
-Straight male Flight Attendants = really no such thing
-Chance to catch up on all the movies you want to see = nightly occurrence
-Working with some outstanding dudes = everyday
-Working with some chair warmers = everyday
-Working with a bunch of idiots supervisors earning 2 paychecks = everyday
-Working with some decent, honest supervisors = not too often
-Wishing you were back on the street = everyday
-Wishing you never had to do 'paper' again = pretty much everyday
-Working all different hours of the week and weekend = everyweek of every month, every year!

If this is for you, then sign up and don't b i t c h at all because you were told!

Am I miserable? Nope! I quit and am working the road again.
Glad I did it? Yep.
Would I do it again? Yep!
Do I make sense? Ask a flying FAM those same questions! But, if I never knew the difference, I wouldn't have anything to write about.

Out!

Fly safe, and check six often!

[UMDBulldog]

Very well written post. I think it really tells a lot of people what they're in for. As far as the hiring process it is cold. I haven't heard much after I passed my interview. I actually don't even know WHEN i will hear anything. It's a crazy process. I hope everyone still in the running good luck and lets hope this is the calm before the storm. Take care

[tdparmel]

At the current rate I will be 38 by the time I get hired and then I will be too old.

[Lazer]

Can someone PM me with a phone number to call the FAMS HR Department? I got the BQ letter, it could be in error as I have seen on the forum earlier some people got it in error.

[Lazer]

Patriot, any luck with contacting HR in DC???

[Lazer]

Have to agree with dtown. Patrio and igneous, I would get from the horses mouth before I gave up. Like I said Avue has been known to send these emails in error. It's not their call to send this. If you get DQ'd for any reason that will come from the FAMS. You can see things don't add up. I think Patrio received the recert letter after the DQ letter. Call the FAMS and get an answer from them. I know 2 guys that got the DQ letter from AVUE. They were in my Academy class.


Manstown, you said earlier 2 guys that got the DQ letter, they were in your FAM class?

[manstown]

Yep. they both said that AVUE sent them a DQ letter. When they contacted the recruiter at the office they were surprised to hear about it. That was a few weeks before they got a call tell them they got the job. Now this doesn't hold true to all. I have seen people call to check it out and they were in fact out of the running. That's why I said to double check with the office where you interviewed.

[Xtreme]

Very well written post. I think it really tells a lot of people what they're in for. As far as the hiring process it is cold. I haven't heard much after I passed my interview. I actually don't even know WHEN i will hear anything. It's a crazy process. I hope everyone still in the running good luck and lets hope this is the calm before the storm. Take care


i'm scheduled to do my physical next week. i've heard through the grapevine they're making some decisions on hires soon. anyone else got anything? all i've got left is my PFT at some point. good luck to those of us still in the running! i'm hearing september.... be here before you know it.

- mike

[marinecop2]

i'm scheduled to do my physical next week. i've heard through the grapevine they're making some decisions on hires soon. anyone else got anything? all i've got left is my PFT at some point. good luck to those of us still in the running! i'm hearing september.... be here before you know it.

- mike

Mike,

Just finished part I of my medical today. Have to go back next week to finish up with the doc. Things are moving and I am hearing the same thing about Sept.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Do not listen to SGT. JEEP guys. The job is great! I love my job and will be here untill the day I die. Been here since day one and will never return to the street and have to deal with the scum of the earth. I like sitting on my rear everyday and currently working on my masters.

I think SGT. JEEP said something about "Policies and procedures that will get you killed = everyday occurrence"----------------------------------------????????????????????

When was the last time one of our policies and procedrures got a FAM killed????? NEVER

Keep on pushing for the job guys and I wish you all the luck.

No disrespect to any street cop because I know how hard the street can be. My hat is off to everyone of you. Thanks for the great job all you police officers do.

[SPFORCESRCG]

i SEE THAT everyone is still worrying bout whether they are going to get the call or not. it will drive you crazy. i did it for a couple of weeks and when i get something form avue i follow it. no need to stress if it happens it happens. good luck to all.

ps i still want the job, lol:)

[Xtreme]

i SEE THAT everyone is still worrying bout whether they are going to get the call or not. it will drive you crazy. i did it for a couple of weeks and when i get something form avue i follow it. no need to stress if it happens it happens. good luck to all.

ps i still want the job, lol:)


post your timeline spforces if u dont mind? and it's not that we're sitting around waiting - well, we are in a sense, but marinecop and i and most of the others on here know that it's a big waiting game and anything can happen. but there has been some movement, not unlike when a bowel begins to stir... heh jk we'll see what happens. good luck to you.

- mike

[Xtreme]

Mike,

Just finished part I of my medical today. Have to go back next week to finish up with the doc. Things are moving and I am hearing the same thing about Sept.

yeah, i go wednesday for my labs and friday for the doc. i'm bumping my runs up too. as much as i hate running, i'm starting to enjoy the high afterwards. and i realize its something i just have to do from now on. the last thing you want to do is tustle with someone and lose your wind. i've been in fights on the street that only go 2 or 3 minutes, but damn, that's a long time to fight if you're the one doing it. of course, on the street, you can't do this and that to put the dude down. up in the air i'm pretty sure you go all out to put 'em down. that's the one thing about bein' a street cop i disliked: when we're fighting, that's it... no holds barred. but the policies wanted you to follow the use of force continuum and go to this level to counter that threat and you're not supposed to hit 'em in the head and blah blah blah. ok done ramblin'... cya bro.

- mike

[SD5326]

Do not listen to SGT. JEEP guys. The job is great! I love my job and will be here untill the day I die. Been here since day one and will never return to the street and have to deal with the scum of the earth. I like sitting on my rear everyday and currently working on my masters.

I think SGT. JEEP said something about "Policies and procedures that will get you killed = everyday occurrence"----------------------------------------????????????????????

When was the last time one of our policies and procedrures got a FAM killed????? NEVER

Keep on pushing for the job guys and I wish you all the luck.

No disrespect to any street cop because I know how hard the street can be. My hat is off to everyone of you. Thanks for the great job all you police officers do.

Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. This job is great!

[airphoto]

I applied back in Sept06 and I had my interview with FAM on March 22. Three days later I received the dreaded 'Better Qualified Applicants' e-mail. I called AVUE and they said it was possibly a bad interview and I can re-apply. Any of you guys know anyone who interviewed a couple of times and finaly got in? The way I see it I have until age 37 (10 years for me) to improve my resume and/or interview skills.

[SPFORCESRCG]

post your timeline spforces if u dont mind? and it's not that we're sitting around waiting - well, we are in a sense, but marinecop and i and most of the others on here know that it's a big waiting game and anything can happen. but there has been some movement, not unlike when a bowel begins to stir... heh jk we'll see what happens. good luck to you.

- mike


INTERVIEW
DRUGSCREEN
FINGERPRINT
RECERTS

AWAITING MEDICAL/PT/PYSCH

[airphoto]

28Sep06 Submitted my application to Avue
02Mar07 Called for an interview
22Mar07 Interview
26Mar07 Better Qaulified Applicants E-mail
27Mar07 Looked for another job

[marinecop2]

Completed the medical process today. Let the waiting begin again now for the PTA.

[tua]

Anyone on here interview in AC back in Dec '06????? Just interested if anyone has moved along in the process. I passed the interview but haven't heard anything since???

[marinecop2]

Anyone on here interview in AC back in Dec '06????? Just interested if anyone has moved along in the process. I passed the interview but haven't heard anything since???


Did you take your drug test since the interview?

[tua]

Did you take your drug test since the interview?

Yes, I was drug tested immediately after the interview and then I was introduced to the SAC.

[Xtreme]

Completed the medical process today. Let the waiting begin again now for the PTA.


yeah i go for my labs and all today - in about an hour actualy. starving right now. let me know asap bro when you get the pta call. hit me on the cell.

- mike

[Milagro303]

I took part of my medical yesterday (labs, etc), and I have the physical this morning.... Anyone out there have any ideas as to what the next step is? And I'll ask for a timeline- but I'm well aware that it is almost impossible to get a concrete timeframe.

Keep the faith ya'll- and be safe.

[dnehack]

The next step after the medical/physical is the PTA. That would be your last step. As far as when it could be, a month to a couple months. It really depends on how fast the doctors submit your medical/physical paperwork to FAMS medical. Once they receive that and everything checks out fine, they let your field office know that your good to go for the PTA. Hope that helps!

[Xtreme]

The next step after the medical/physical is the PTA. That would be your last step. As far as when it could be, a month to a couple months. It really depends on how fast the doctors submit your medical/physical paperwork to FAMS medical. Once they receive that and everything checks out fine, they let your field office know that your good to go for the PTA. Hope that helps!

yeah i figure i got at least a month to knock a bit more time off of my run. aint no way i'm goin' to be able to get it low enough to make excellent. i'm just not built to run that fast that far. now, i'll run you down from here to the door. and maybe if you get outside i'll catch you too. but when i was S.O., if i had to run too far, i figured that's why they issued me a car. lol i just aint got a 7 minute mile in me is all. so i figure if i can hit excellent on all the lifts, and bust out a good run, i should be ok.

good luck to everyone!

- mike

[marinecop2]

yeah i figure i got at least a month to knock a bit more time off of my run. aint no way i'm goin' to be able to get it low enough to make excellent. i'm just not built to run that fast that far. now, i'll run you down from here to the door. and maybe if you get outside i'll catch you too. but when i was S.O., if i had to run too far, i figured that's why they issued me a car. lol i just aint got a 7 minute mile in me is all. so i figure if i can hit excellent on all the lifts, and bust out a good run, i should be ok.

good luck to everyone!

- mike

I'm right there with you. I wasn't born to run long distance, just short bursts of speed. I'm shooting for the same thing with excellent on on all categories and try to push out a good run. Let me know how it goes. Later

[INTHEAIRCOP]

If you max out the push ups, pull ups and the situps then you will do fine. I normaly do 50 situps, 50 pushups, 10 pullups and run the 1 1/2 run in 16 min. My score is then a 3.2 (above average). The best you can do is a 4.0.

[EndlessEcko]

PTA...yeah, I dont know how much that really matters. I had a guy in my class NEVER get a pullup, just not in him. But he could bench 350lbs no prob.
When I took my pre-hire PTA there were two people in the group that got "poor"s and they are sitting next to me in the office today. So I don't know how much that is really going to affect your chances of being hired. If you give it your all and the people administering the PTA see that, I don't think they are going to pass on ya.

Train hard, it's all you can do.

And for all of you that hate running like me....

"I'm going to run until it hurts, then I'm going to smile and run some more!"

Be Safe!
-Ecko

[Biz_mikee]

How is the FAM academy? Ive been through a CA POST Academy. Is it similar?

how do you attach your birth certificate, transcripts, and other paperwork to the online application as required in the job posting? What if some paperwork does not apply to you (such as SF-50,etc)?

thanks

[marinecop2]

How is the FAM academy? Ive been through a CA POST Academy. Is it similar?

how do you attach your birth certificate, transcripts, and other paperwork to the online application as required in the job posting? What if some paperwork does not apply to you (such as SF-50,etc)?

thanks

You can scan your documents into your computer and then attach them from there or you can fax them to Avue and then they will be posted. If the paperwork does not apply don't fill it out. Good luck.

[Biz_mikee]

You can scan your documents into your computer and then attach them from there or you can fax them to Avue and then they will be posted. If the paperwork does not apply don't fill it out. Good luck.

Yeah, thats what I thought. I just didnt think it was very safe to scan sensitive documents and send them through email.

thanks

[Mitragorz]

Hey guys. First post here, but I've got my interview in NY coming up on June 12th and I've got a few questions:

1) What should I bring? Should I bring an extra resume, or anything else?

2) What do they ask? I have absolutely no idea what kind of questions I'll be asked. Those of you you are hired, what was your interview like and what should I be prepared for?

A couple off-topic questions...

3) Do you take your weapon home with you, or do you check it in / out before your duty?

4) If you do keep your weapon, what's the policy (or lack thereof) on carrying off-duty? Can you, or would you still need to apply for a C&C in whatever state you want to carry in?


Thanks in advance, I'm really looking forward to this and I hope it all goes through!


BTW, I'm 22, just out of college... is it true that they lean towards young guys like myself?

[igneous]

You shouldnt need to bring a resume. I can't say what they'll ask, its not a big deal though. You can carry your weapon on and off duty.

[UMDBulldog]

GOod luck... I am 22 and just had my interview last month. It's a long road, but stay on track my friend!

[dtown101]

Hey guys. First post here, but I've got my interview in NY coming up on June 12th and I've got a few questions:

1) What should I bring? Should I bring an extra resume, or anything else?

2) What do they ask? I have absolutely no idea what kind of questions I'll be asked. Those of you you are hired, what was your interview like and what should I be prepared for?

A couple off-topic questions...

3) Do you take your weapon home with you, or do you check it in / out before your duty?

4) If you do keep your weapon, what's the policy (or lack thereof) on carrying off-duty? Can you, or would you still need to apply for a C&C in whatever state you want to carry in?


Thanks in advance, I'm really looking forward to this and I hope it all goes through!


BTW, I'm 22, just out of college... is it true that they lean towards young guys like myself?

hmmm let see
1) bring urself
2) if we told you the ?s they asked now how ethical would that be??
3) ur a Federal Officer- meaning you take it home, work-where ever you want
4) same answer from ? 3 u wouldnt need a C&C unless you wanted to carry something other than ur duty weapon

it is not true that they lean towards young guys right out of college---they are now looking for people with law enforcement backgrounds.

[Xtreme]

this is good to hear. i've been training... but still sweating it. i've come to the conclusion that since i despise running so much, i figure the faster i run the damn 1.5 miles, the faster i'll be done. i've been doing 3/4 mile steady pace, then the last 3/4 in intervals alternating between sprints and slow jogs. it seems to be helping my cardio. i'll do a 2 mile run once a week and they're getting easier. i'm actualy starting to enjoy it a little. but just a little. i reckon i'll just keep running till i die. at my physical, my heart rate was 68. she asked if i was an athlete - i 'bout fell out of my chair. i go today to see the doc.

so long people.

- mike



PTA...yeah, I dont know how much that really matters. I had a guy in my class NEVER get a pullup, just not in him. But he could bench 350lbs no prob.
When I took my pre-hire PTA there were two people in the group that got "poor"s and they are sitting next to me in the office today. So I don't know how much that is really going to affect your chances of being hired. If you give it your all and the people administering the PTA see that, I don't think they are going to pass on ya.

Train hard, it's all you can do.

And for all of you that hate running like me....

"I'm going to run until it hurts, then I'm going to smile and run some more!"

Be Safe!
-Ecko

[Biz_mikee]

Whats COE? I see everyone has received COE on their timeline.

Sorry for the dumb question

[Patrio72]

Conditional Offer of Employment
There's no such thing as a dumb question.

Patriot72

[Tower]

There's no such thing as a dumb question.

.....only dumb people.

Sorry I had too. No offense Biz_mikee, initially I didn't know either.

[Xtreme]

Whats COE? I see everyone has received COE on their timeline.

Sorry for the dumb question

pretty much everyone gets one of these COE's almost immediately if you meet the basic requirements. don't put your notice in at work or anything... the COE is merely the begining... : )

- mike

[marinecop2]

pretty much everyone gets one of these COE's almost immediately if you meet the basic requirements. don't put your notice in at work or anything... the COE is merely the begining... : )

- mike

the way beginning!!

[copper02]

Hey guys, I took my physical last week, and just looking to see if anyone knows what is next? Also some of you have posted that you did a mental health certification...I filled out a mental health form with a bunch of questions, is that what you are referring to? Also after the physical fitness assessment test, what is left???

[Xtreme]

Hey guys, I took my physical last week, and just looking to see if anyone knows what is next? Also some of you have posted that you did a mental health certification...I filled out a mental health form with a bunch of questions, is that what you are referring to? Also after the physical fitness assessment test, what is left???

the steps can be done out of order apparently. do you see my signature? post your steps as i have done so we can see what you've done and what you havent'. otherwise, how can we tell you what's next? more than likely you will do you PAT after your physical. and re: the MHC, yes... it's a 2 page form with a bunch of questions.

good luck!

mike

[copper02]

Marinecop-

Here is what I have done:

April 2006 applied
April 2006 received COE
June 2006 Background packet
October 2006 Interviewed and drug test
March 2007 Mental Health Form
May 2007 Physical

[Xtreme]

Marinecop-

Here is what I have done:

April 2006 applied
April 2006 received COE
June 2006 Background packet
October 2006 Interviewed and drug test
March 2007 Mental Health Form
May 2007 Physical

looks like the PAT is next up for you... when that'll happen is anyones guess.

- mike

[dnehack]

To whom it may concern: From what I hear they may not even hire any this year. I received a email from FAM HRO today and it was not good. It basically said it did not look like hiring would resume anytime soon. She apoligized several times in the email but told me it was way above her head. This just plain sucks!

[tua]

To whom it may concern: From what I hear they may not even hire any this year. I received a email from FAM HRO today and it was not good. It basically said it did not look like hiring would resume anytime soon. She apoligized several times in the email but told me it was way above her head. This just plain sucks!


Thank you Nancy Pelosi..

[Xtreme]

To whom it may concern: From what I hear they may not even hire any this year. I received a email from FAM HRO today and it was not good. It basically said it did not look like hiring would resume anytime soon. She apoligized several times in the email but told me it was way above her head. This just plain sucks!

i'm prepared for this... i am willing to wait as long as need be.

ok, this sucks...

[copper02]

Hey I heard they were hiring this year, I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Has anyone else heard whether they are hiring or not this year? And what offices have openings, it seems like every time I hear, it is a different group that have openings. Thanks

[Xtreme]

dag'um.... i've heard everything from "they're hiring right now!" to "don't hold yer breath..." i just take it as it comes. when they call me for my PAT, i'll go. if i don't hear back, life goes on. i have a good gig right now so i'm not pressed. i can go anytime and the sooner the better, but hey, the fed is the fed and they change their collective minds every few minutes it seems.

off topic:
i had a dream the other night i was in a shootout. i got ambushed somewhere... i was firing rounds while trying to find cover... but when i managed to circle around and get the advantage on badguy, my bullets were useless! i fired right at him almost point blank and nothing! i'm thinking i might have to beat him to death with a useless gun... anyone else have these dreams? i get 'em a lot... like it's my brain is trying to train me in my sleep for an encounter gone bad. where's that mental health certification... heh when i was a road cop, i got them once a week. maybe once a month now though. anyone?

[datfas]

Well just finished my PTA, I think I did a better than average job. Now back to the waiting game. I have also posted my timeline in my signature, could be one of the oldest around here.

KT

[marinecop2]

Well just finished my PTA, I think I did a better than average job. Now back to the waiting game. I have also posted my timeline in my signature, could be one of the oldest around here.

KT

How long ago were you notified to conduct your PTA? Were you contacted by an email from Avue or a phone call from your nearest FO?

[ctl1117]

Xtreme, this dream is common among law enforcement. Just a psychological thing that happens to cops, government agents, soldiers ect. I have a friend that has the same dream a lot and he actually sought out help. They told him it is just a dream that some people have in this line of work common to those who have never actually been involved in a shooting. Just as long as it doesn’t consume your every day life I wouldn’t worry about it. I’m sure there are plenty of others who have had the same dream and just don’t speak up. Maybe check other groups on this site.


Good luck to all here….. I have heard all the same things while waiting in the process but again it seems like the only thing to do is wait. As encouragement though I did hear form HR that A LOT of people leave the process every day making the chances of getting hired by those of us past the interview much more likely.

[datfas]

How long ago were you notified to conduct your PTA? Were you contacted by an email from Avue or a phone call from your nearest FO?


I receive a call from the FO, it was probably about 2 weeks before the PTA. Be prepared!!

KT

[froggy]

Hey Gents,

New to the forum and finishing up my process tomorrow after finishing Medical on the 9th of this month. Seen alot of rumors on here about hiring specifics, and even some rumors that are wrong coming from agents. Looking forward to talking with all of you though, and it shows your dedication and commitment by what is shown in most of the posts here.
One rumor I would like to try and dispel is that you have to pass the interview to take the drug test. I was interviewed by an old friend and was told later that I maxed out my interview. I have not to this day taken the drug test and am finishing up with my PTA this week, and am told will be meeting management after this. From what I see the process is very broken into different stages for different people, and also depends alot on the time in which you first applied.
I was also called by the FO nearest to me where my interview was conducted to finish my PTA.
Anyhow, great forum, and good luck to all of you.

Froggy

[SD5326]

Hey Gents,

New to the forum and finishing up my process tomorrow after finishing Medical on the 9th of this month. Seen alot of rumors on here about hiring specifics, and even some rumors that are wrong coming from agents. Looking forward to talking with all of you though, and it shows your dedication and commitment by what is shown in most of the posts here.
One rumor I would like to try and dispel is that you have to pass the interview to take the drug test. I was interviewed by an old friend and was told later that I maxed out my interview. I have not to this day taken the drug test and am finishing up with my PTA this week, and am told will be meeting management after this. From what I see the process is very broken into different stages for different people, and also depends alot on the time in which you first applied.
I was also called by the FO nearest to me where my interview was conducted to finish my PTA.
Anyhow, great forum, and good luck to all of you.

Froggy


That's usually how it works, everyone does the process differently. The rumors are non-stop. Good luck.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Hey Gents,

New to the forum and finishing up my process tomorrow after finishing Medical on the 9th of this month. Seen alot of rumors on here about hiring specifics, and even some rumors that are wrong coming from agents. One rumor I would like to try and dispel is that you have to pass the interview to take the drug test. I have not to this day taken the drug test and am finishing up with my PTA this week, and am told will be meeting management after this. I was also called by the FO nearest to me where my interview was conducted to finish my PTA.
Anyhow, great forum, and good luck to all of you.

Froggy

And how would you know if the "real agents" are passing rumors on here. It is not the same at every office. I am on the panel in my office and that is the way we do it, peee test right after the interview if you passed. No one realy knows what is going on. I was told by a higher up that only 65 new hires for the rest of 2007 but what do I know. I have only been a FAM for over 5 years and have interviewed close to 50 applicants.

Let me shed some light on the panel interview. You can only get 1 of four scores. The top tier is highly recommended and the lower is not recommended. If you do not get the top tier then I would not hold your breath. When you answer a question on the board each panel member will score your answer from a scale of 1-8 (1 being bad and 8 great).

All I can say guys is just keep doing what you all have been doing. If you get the call then great but if you don't, well then try another place. Just don't palce all your hope in one job. I can count hundreds of other palces that will hire all of you guys. Way back in the day I must of had 50 aplications floating around untill I got my first one and this is my 3rd job as a LEO. Just do not sweat it. Good luck to you all and I am packing for London again so i have to go.

[marinecop2]

Hey Gents,

New to the forum and finishing up my process tomorrow after finishing Medical on the 9th of this month. Seen alot of rumors on here about hiring specifics, and even some rumors that are wrong coming from agents. Looking forward to talking with all of you though, and it shows your dedication and commitment by what is shown in most of the posts here.
One rumor I would like to try and dispel is that you have to pass the interview to take the drug test. I was interviewed by an old friend and was told later that I maxed out my interview. I have not to this day taken the drug test and am finishing up with my PTA this week, and am told will be meeting management after this. From what I see the process is very broken into different stages for different people, and also depends alot on the time in which you first applied.
I was also called by the FO nearest to me where my interview was conducted to finish my PTA.
Anyhow, great forum, and good luck to all of you.

Froggy

What field office are you applying through and when did you get the call to schedule your pta?

[froggy]

Los Angeles. Got the call last Wednesday (1 week after finishing up with Doc for Medical).

[exeproagent]

Hello ladies and gents
ive been following this forum and others and have been waiting the activation now that its activated i shall speak. my timeline is as follows

may15 06-applied
may15 06 - conditonal offer
may18 -06 finger print
aug 3 06 interview/drug test
march 28 07 recert/mental health
april 21 07 recert BI
waiting medical testing/pt

[datfas]

Welcome to the board!

[froggy]

Most of my timeline I have not kept track of, but is mostly like this:

August 2006: Application and COE
October 2006: Background packet and Fingerprints
January 2007: Interview
March 2007: Recertification
April 2007: MHC
May 2007: Medical, PTA, Drug Screen

[Tower]

Due to the hiring freeze my PTA and Medical are going to expire. Since the latest rumor for the hiring is going to be in Sep am I for sure going to have to go and re-take the PTA and get another med exam or are they going to be "honored" so to speak? I only ask cause its a $700 dollar trip for me to get to the field office and need to ensure I have funds readily available for it. Any input?

[Xtreme]

just FYI... got the call scheduling my PTA for next wednesday - june 6th.

orlando FO

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Just got back from LONDON! I love the pubs and the beer is very expensive but the $125 dollars a day per-diem paid for all my drinks. I think I saw a guy driving/flying a nimbus 2000 (harry potter).

The job has been good to me lately and I hope to see all of you soon, maybe in 2008? Keep the faith guys!

Oh by the way, sitting in coach for 9 hours sucks big time !
__________________
Promote confidence in our Nation’s civil aviation system through the effective deployment of Federal Air Marshals to detect, deter, and defeat hostile acts targeting U.S. air carriers, airports, passengers and crews

[knightrider26]

Got the call today from HR. The agent said I was finished with everything and he needs me to fax him back my college transcript. After that he is sending it to the hiring panel. Seems like they may be moving along. The agent was still unaware of the next incoming class.

[magic001aj]

Got the call today from HR. The agent said I was finished with everything and he needs me to fax him back my college transcript. After that he is sending it to the hiring panel. Seems like they may be moving along. The agent was still unaware of the next incoming class.

Knight, i got that same call two days after i finished my PTA which was in december 06. The person on the phone said the same thing. I don't think there is a rush in this process...

[manstown]

Got the call today from HR. The agent said I was finished with everything and he needs me to fax him back my college transcript. After that he is sending it to the hiring panel. Seems like they may be moving along. The agent was still unaware of the next incoming class.

What was the area code of the phone call. If it was from a 609 number that could be a very good call. If it is from a 703 area code, that is just a formality.

[knightrider26]

I guess it was a formality call then. It came up as a unknown caller. But the fax number he provided was a 703. Oh well I thought I had something going for a minute. Back to waiting. (Since Aug. 05)

[manstown]

I guess it was a formality call then. It came up as a unknown caller. But the fax number he provided was a 703. Oh well I thought I had something going for a minute. Back to waiting. (Since Aug. 05)

When you get a call from someone in the 609 area asking for those documents, then get excited. I recieved that call and later that night, after faxing them the paperwork, I had a job offer. Some of my friends got the offer within the next few days.

[knightrider26]

Oh ok. Thanks Manstown. How long have you been a FAM for? Are you located in the NJ area?

[manstown]

Oh ok. Thanks Manstown. How long have you been a FAM for? Are you located in the NJ area?

Just about a year. And I don't mind it at all. Not a bad job. Has its ups and downs.....but what job doesn't. Get to see places I would have never gone to see.

[Xtreme]

do they ask for college transcripts only if you're 4 year degree? i've got some credits under my belt, no degree. not the "best" grades..... is this going to be a problem? i don't have much in the way of transcripts to send...

what do y'all think?

[manstown]

do they ask for college transcripts only if you're 4 year degree? i've got some credits under my belt, no degree. not the "best" grades..... is this going to be a problem? i don't have much in the way of transcripts to send...

what do y'all think?

They asked for mine and I have yet to finish. I don't know they care as much for the grades as they do to see how far along you are. Only my opinion though. I'm almost done with a 2.9. I believe it plays a role in the pay scale.

[knightrider26]

yea that's true. The ups and Downs do come with every job. I have a few friends that are FAMS now that you were probably in the academy with. They love the job.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I am the senior FAM on this forum. So if you want to really know how the job is then ask me. I have been a I band since 2004 and it looks like I will a I band untill I die.

[froggy]

good luck Xtreme.

[froggy]

Hey Intheaircop,

Got a couple questions.
Is the supervisor position above an I-band or is it in the same I band category?
Or can you be a supervisor at a lower pay band?

thnx,
froggy

[gonefishin]

Supervisors are usually J bands (unless its an acting supervisor....these are usually I bands). At the end of the year the typical I band FAM will make more money than a J band supervisor due to per diem, Sunday pay and night differential.

[INTHEAIRCOP]

I normaly make an extra 6-8 grand a year in per-diem money that I take home after I pay the govt. credit card bill. I am cheap on the lay overs so I save as much money as I can. I eat before I leave the house, bring my lunch and then only have to by one meal while in the hotel. Save is the name of the game. My new J band supervisor makes more then me but then I pass her with the perdiem I make.

[copper02]

INTHEAIRCOP, have you heard which field offices have openings currently? Is the PTA the last step, and what does the PTA consist of? Thanks for your info!

[Xtreme]

INTHEAIRCOP, have you heard which field offices have openings currently? Is the PTA the last step, and what does the PTA consist of? Thanks for your info!


i'm only in hiring phase, but i've i'm told only NYC and DC are actualy taking new hires. there are other "openings" but rooks are going to NYC and DC.

here's a link from another forum re: the PTA: http://www.box.net/shared/sqlx69kijq but in short, the PTA is pull-ups, sit-ups x 1minute, push-ups x 1minute and then a 1.5 mile run.

intheaircop can confirm the hire locations, but i'm sure he'll tell you the same thing.

- mike

[dnehack]

Actually FAMS is not hiring right now if you want to get technical. They are accepting applications, but probably will not hire this year.

[Zbug]

I recently graduated college and applied for an Air Marshal position. I was curious if you guys could tell me some of the qualifications to become an air marshal

[manstown]

If you look on the application paperwork, it lets you know the qualifications. Some get hired with a degree, LE experience, and neither of the two.

[tua]

I recently graduated college and applied for an Air Marshal position. I was curious if you guys could tell me some of the qualifications to become an air marshal


The ability to be patient, very patient.

[UMDBulldog]

I think about the excitement you get when you get a COE and then proceed through the process. When you get your interview and realize you passed you get even MORE excited. Then it HALTS...and you wait....and wait....and wait....It's too much of a pattern of waiting....Haha.

:)

[Zbug]

I got the COE slip, yay! I guess im just nervous due to lack of experience. It is defiently an exciting idea though.

[LEO75]

I heard from a co-worker that is done with the process, that they are hoping for two classes possibly in August/September/October (time frame was not definite). He had spoke to someone in Human resources last week, hopefully this is true.

I sent my fingerprints in a couple weeks ago and havent heard anything on an interview. Anyone have any sort of time frame between the two (I know it varies, but thought i'd ask)?

[Xtreme]

I heard from a co-worker that is done with the process, that they are hoping for two classes possibly in August/September/October (time frame was not definite). He had spoke to someone in Human resources last week, hopefully this is true.

I sent my fingerprints in a couple weeks ago and havent heard anything on an interview. Anyone have any sort of time frame between the two (I know it varies, but thought i'd ask)?


well look at my timeline... and most would say my steps have gone rather quickly. if you are just getting around to sending in fingerprint cards, i don't know if you have a shot at the aug/sep/oct classes - IF they even exist. all you can do is sit back and pretend you didn't even apply. that way when they contact you it'll be a little happy surprise! :D

good luck to you though.

- mike

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Good luck in the morning during the PTA !!!!!!!!

[Xtreme]

Good luck in the morning during the PTA !!!!!!!!

thanks!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Xtreme]

ok did the PTA today. it sucked but i'm done. don't ask me for a score cuz i didn't ask and i didn't keep track. ignorance is bliss. i'm just glad it's done.

couple things:

the FAM running the show told us all after our PTA that the only thing that would stop us now is something in our background - credit maybe? also that if we don't get a bcq letter in the next 4 to 6 weeks, we should be good to go... just waiting for the call.

also: 2 classes left this fiscal year... august and september. august is full. september isn't. he said we may be pushed to fiscal year '08. there's no telling.

so the whole process took me 6 months.

good luck to you people still in the process. if you have any questions that i can answer, PM me. don't ask me what the interview questions are like though. it's pretty self explanatory. go lift, go run, lift some more and run some more.

- mike

[Mitragorz]

*sigh*

Well I just learned that "headquarters" cancelled the interview I had in NY on the 12th. The woman said that there aren't anymore positions, but I'm near the top of the list of people to call when they open up again.

I'm kind of annoyed, I was looking forward to the interview... oh well... :(

[Xtreme]

*sigh*

Well I just learned that "headquarters" cancelled the interview I had in NY on the 12th. The woman said that there aren't anymore positions, but I'm near the top of the list of people to call when they open up again.

I'm kind of annoyed, I was looking forward to the interview... oh well... :(


interesting... i wonder why they wouldn't have at least interviewed you for possible slots in fiscal year '08? i mean, they had you scheduled and everythig? and cancelled?

what does this tell the FAM's on the board? what can we infer from this development?

the last i heard is they were trying to fill up the september class. i know a group of us recently finished up the process. my guess is they know they need x number of people + however many will decline when they get the call from 609 and that they've reached that number. it doesn't bode well for folks still in the process.

if you go to avue's site, it looks different. says the positions are still open, but i don't remember them listing a # of vacancies like they have now. could be my imagination....

- mike

[marinecop2]

Does anyone have the contact number for the FAM Medical Division? I want to follow up with them to make sure they received my medical paperwork.

[Zbug]

I have seen several people talk about fingerprints. being an ignoraunt newbie, please explain the process. Do they send out information or do you send in information?

[Tower]

Zbug- Fingerprint cards will come in the mail. Take them to your local PD and get them done. Send them back out to the designated address they give you.

[Xtreme]

Does anyone have the contact number for the FAM Medical Division? I want to follow up with them to make sure they received my medical paperwork.

bro, call me tomorow (friday) and i'll dig up that letter i got a month or so ago asking for additional information. i think the contact info was on it. if you still haven't found a #, i'll hunt it down.

- mike

[Xtreme]

got the 703 call today...

[datfas]

got the 703 call today...

Xtreme,

Your making me jealous, at least you got a call for transcripts. Quick question were your transcripts posted with your original application on Avue? Also send me a pm with your PTA results if you can, justed wanted to compare.

KT

[danperez]

Question: Does working as a (TSO) help any when applying to the FAMs?

Anyone have a success story of a TSO becoming part of 'the FAM.'

I'm sure its been discussed but with 99 pages I figure I'd ask again. (Sorry)

[Xtreme]

Xtreme,
Your making me jealous, at least you got a call for transcripts. Quick question were your transcripts posted with your original application on Avue? Also send me a pm with your PTA results if you can, justed wanted to compare.
KT

my transcripts were not posted with my original app with avue. and my pta results are nothing to brag about. but i'll send you a quick note.

[Xtreme]

ok does anyone know of an instance where an applicant got the call to send in transcripts and then recieved a BQC letter?

this forum is dead! lol sup peeps?

[marinecop2]

When do calls generally go out in regards to hiring? Days, weeks, or months in advance to those selected? Also, if certain classes are already full for hiring, does that mean they are full from a list of applicants who have yet to be contacted or have they possibly been called already? Just trying to get a grip on things here....Any input is appreciated..

Mike, your right this forum needs some life. Times a tickin'.

[Xtreme]

Mike, your right this forum needs some life. Times a tickin'.

IM me: famwannabe

[dnehack]

marinecop2, I am not so sure if there are any classes at all. As of May 17th, my POC that called me for the job back on September 30th 2006 said at that time no classes were scheduled for 2007 at that time. I find it hard to believe that now a August class is full and they are hiring only for a September class. I will call her today and see what she says. I am not saying things havent changed, because she did say that they hoped to hire towards the end of the FY. I just dont see how the August class is full with NO calls going out since September of last year. I will let you guys know what I find out. Later!

[Xtreme]

marinecop2, I am not so sure if there are any classes at all. As of May 17th, my POC that called me for the job back on September 30th 2006 said at that time no classes were scheduled for 2007 at that time. I find it hard to believe that now a August class is full and they are hiring only for a September class. I will call her today and see what she says. I am not saying things havent changed, because she did say that they hoped to hire towards the end of the FY. I just dont see how the August class is full with NO calls going out since September of last year. I will let you guys know what I find out. Later!

generaly speaking, as the fiscal year comes to a close, there's extra money that must be spent in order to justify additional funds for the next fy. so it seems very logical to me that they would have a class or two at the end of fy07 to eat up any left over money. plus, they're calling some folks and telling them to cancel steps (like physicals and interviews) yet some of us have received calls for transcripts. it's a mystery... so far everything i've heard leads me to believe they will have a class or two this fy. maybe it's just my mind trying to cope though, huh? : )

- mike

[dnehack]

Nope, that sounds about right. The only thing is I think they will do some hiring at the end of the FY, I just dont think they will be in a class in August or September. I dont think they will have any classes until next year. I sent a email to my POC this moring and I will call her in a little while to see if she can give me some insight to all this madness. Hopefully she has some good news.

[dnehack]

OK received the email from HRO it looks good for us. Here it is.

Hi Dwight,

I heard the same rumor that you did. There's supposed to be only 65
people that's going to be hired for both those classes and the word is
that the offers will probably start going out sometime in July, if not
before. And the offers are supposed to go to the people that have
already completed everything. You are in that group, so keep your
fingers crossed. I won't be the one making the offers anymore, so when
you get "the call", it will be from one of the HR Specialists in the
Staffing group from our HQ office.

So sit tight! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you as well!

Hope this bolds well for us. Keep your fingers crossed.

[knightrider26]

That sounds good dnehack,
I hope that we are all in the next class.

[knightrider26]

This forum is really dead today.

[David95XJ]

Would becoming a TSO (screener) help at all with applying to the FAMS?

I know sometimes it is easier to apply within the agency you work for?

[thermop6]

I've been done with the process completely since October 06. Haven't heard a word save for the form email that went out asking if we were still interested..

[SD5326]

Would becoming a TSO (screener) help at all with applying to the FAMS?

I know sometimes it is easier to apply within the agency you work for?

This is actually a good question.

Yes and no. If you have the exp/qualifications their looking for and you are a screener, yes there is a possibility (but not definite) you would have priority for hiring over others that are not screeners. If no exp/quals that are appealing to the agency you will be just like anyone else in the hiring process...... even though you're a screener. There were some screeners that I was hired on with and they are Top-Notch people. Remember though, just becaquse you're a screener and you have what their looking for doesn't mean you're a shoe-in. You still have to nail the interview and jump through all the other hoops.

It is not easier to apply, so to speak, if you are a screener. Everyone still has to use avue and go through the same headaches. The only perk that you may or may not get is when it is time for calls to go out is you may be higher on the list or preferred over someone who is not a screener.

Hope that helps.

Good luck to everyone who is done with the process and waiting for that coveted call everyone talks about. I remember when I was on pins and needles for a few months waiting and then waiting some more until it came. The word on the street is that the slots are very limited for the upcoming classes. If you get the call for these next ones...... consider yourself a cut above the rest.

[Xtreme]

I've been done with the process completely since October 06. Haven't heard a word save for the form email that went out asking if we were still interested..

when did they ask you to fax transcripts, 10/06? what are your qualifications if you don't mind me asking. you can PM me if you like....

[David95XJ]

SD6326

I got my B.A. '06 and made it to the interview process for FAMS, after the interview they told me i was to young/underqualified.

I'm about to start an MBA, in an effort to see what FED LEO i can attract after i have the accounting degree. I was considering working as a TSO part-time as i am already in the federal system and would like to keep my benefits, FERS, etc.

Do TSOs do anything else besides screening the passengers?

[SD5326]

Do TSOs do anything else besides screening the passengers?

I would apply to some local PD's. Apply to other Fed Agencies is also a good move. Just because FAMS denied you doesn't mean you won't get on with another Agency. Other organizations hire people straight out of college. FAMS is definitely not an entry level position although they do hire people right out of school........ you don't see it alot. MBA is good, I would definitely recommend getting it. It only makes you more attractive.

TSO's screen people...... period. They may do some other things but that is all they do in the airport.

[Xtreme]

SD6326

I got my B.A. '06 and made it to the interview process for FAMS, after the interview they told me i was to young/underqualified.

I'm about to start an MBA, in an effort to see what FED LEO i can attract after i have the accounting degree. I was considering working as a TSO part-time as i am already in the federal system and would like to keep my benefits, FERS, etc.

Do TSOs do anything else besides screening the passengers?

i haven't a clue what TSO's do besides screen ppl...

but with an MBA/acounting degree, why don't you try the FBI? that's right up their alley! as long as your background is good. you could also try to get some local PD experience maybe, reserves? something like that? not sure... do some digging into FBI wants/needs. US Marshals possible?

[SD5326]

i haven't a clue what TSO's do besides screen ppl...




That pretty much sums it up.

[SD5326]

you could also try to get some local PD experience maybe, reserves?

This is the best advice for anyone who has little to no experience. You hear the older guys with a little experience under their belt say this all the time. Funny how alot of the younger generations don't listen to this advice. You will get a ton of street experience being a street cop that you may never get if you go straight to Fed. I'm not saying you won't get any street experience in the Feds because that would be a straight-up lie. But what I have seen is that local or state PD guys who went fed have a tendency to thrive in the Feds because they have already gained that priceless street experience/ interaction with the public. It is a great tool no one can teach.

[marinecop2]

But what I have seen is that local or state PD guys who went fed have a tendency to thrive in the Feds because they have already gained that priceless street experience/ interaction with the public. It is a great tool no one can teach.

I couldn't have said it any better myself. The experience I have gained as a State LEO has been priceless. Younger guys/gals out there should look into local/state pd's to gain that experience. It will only help you and make your more marketable to any agency you decide to work for.

[thermop6]

when did they ask you to fax transcripts, 10/06? what are your qualifications if you don't mind me asking. you can PM me if you like....


I was asked to fax transcripts in Aug '06 - after my oral board but before my PTA. PTA was last in Oct '06. My recruiter out of the Denver office said that everything looked great and that if I hadn't been kicked out by now that I was definetely on their "hire list." Haven't heard a word since (except the emails).

I have 5 years city PD experience and an associates in criminal justice - that's about it...

[INTHEAIRCOP]

A SAIC from HQ was in my office today and talked to us about the hiring for the year. He said about 60 new hires for the rest of the year and they will be going to the north east (Boston, Phili, etc.)

Also some very good news. he said that the Director had signed of on the basic criminal investigation class given at Glynco. Now what he said is the new hires will goto Glynco after phase one and phase two. So now the academy will be about 23 weeks long. He then said that the current FAMs will get a shorter class of about 7 weeks. Now after we get this class we still will be 1801s and will not get the 1811 clasification. But the BAD news is there is no money for this and they will not see the money for years to come.

[thermop6]

when did they ask you to fax transcripts, 10/06? what are your qualifications if you don't mind me asking. you can PM me if you like....

Here's my long *** timeline if anyone is interested:

Jan '06 KSA/Conditional offer
Apr '06 Fingerprints
Jun '06 Background begins
Aug '06 Oral board/written psych/drug test all on same day
Aug '06 Background done
Aug '06 Transcript request
Sep '06 Psych interview
Oct '06 PTA
Mar '07 Are you still interested email - returned fax that I was still interested

June '07 Thumb up butt waiting like everyone else

I was telling Xtreme - I personally think that they will trash all of our apps at some point, close the job and open it again in the future with everyone having to reapply. They stopped hiring like three days after I was all done so I would think that the guys and gals I was testing with would be at the top of the list. I don't think that anymore.. There are just too many applications.. I now think that we're all in the same pile and that they have SO MANY apps that they can be VERY choosey now. Regardless - good luck - I hope to serve with you someday.

[dnehack]

INTHEAIRCOP, I have a few questions if you dont mind.

1. When you say Boston, Phili, etc..... Does this also mean NY, DC and Baltimore?

2. Where you say there is no money for this, are you refering to sending the current FAMS or current and new hires? If that doesnt sound right would the new hires that would be hired for this year be going to Glynco for phase III?

3. Did he give you any idea when the calls would be going out for the 60 or so hires?

Thanks

A SAIC from HQ was in my office today and talked to us about the hiring for the year. He said about 60 new hires for the rest of the year and they will be going to the north east (Boston, Phili, etc.)

Also some very good news. he said that the Director had signed of on the basic criminal investigation class given at Glynco. Now what he said is the new hires will goto Glynco after phase one and phase two. So now the academy will be about 23 weeks long. He then said that the current FAMs will get a shorter class of about 7 weeks. Now after we get this class we still will be 1801s and will not get the 1811 clasification. But the BAD news is there is no money for this and they will not see the money for years to come.

[Zbug]

I recently got an email saying that the vacancies are going to be closing June 29th for air marshal positions

[marinecop2]

I recently got an email saying that the vacancies are going to be closing June 29th for air marshal positions


Have you already applied?

[Zbug]

Yes, i applied about a month ago.

[dnehack]

Very interesting....

[dnehack]

Just received the same email. Good luck to all. Thousands of applicants and only 65 slots. WOW

[SD5326]

That email is true. They have a list of people to hire for at least a few years. Don't be upset if you don't get the call.......... 65 is a very small number. Word on the street is that this is the last of hiring for 2 years or so.

[dnehack]

OK just for Fun if you are through with the whole process put your name down here and lets figure out who the 65 will be. I will start it off....

:D
1. dnehack
2. Tower
3. ?

[SD5326]

One more thing. They have no idea when calls are going out either. They said it could be anywhere from June to October. I know guys........... it's an emotional roller coaster. FWIW I hope you guys get the call.

[Tower]

They probably should have closed the announcement a long time. But at least now they have a good applicant pool to choose from for hiring.

2. Tower

[knightrider26]

OK just for Fun if you are through with the whole process put your name down here and lets figure out who the 65 will be. I will start it off....


1. dnehack
2. Tower
3. Knightrider26 (also done)

[ditta23]

I'm done too

[dnehack]

1. dnehack
2. Tower
3. Knightrider26
4. ditta23

[datfas]

1. dnehack
2. Tower
3. Knightrider26
4. ditta23
5. datfas

[danzpolice]

Just a questions for you all...when you went to your PT test did you wear normal clothes and change there or did you just wear work out clothes to your test? Mine is Monday so was just wondering ~ Thanks

[dnehack]

PT clothes. Good luck. Try as hard as you can because doing a few extra may be the difference in getting the call and not getting the call.

[Xtreme]

1. dnehack
2. Tower
3. Knightrider26
4. ditta23
5. xtreme, who by the way, hasn't recieved an email about 6/29???

[UMDBulldog]

I haven't received an email from Avue about 6/29. Question for everyone, I had a little inside information that I passed my interview with the highest rating...by no means here am I bragging because I am sure you all have too, and only have my medical and physical left. I was talking to Avue and they said they will be calling for a medical soon. Why would they be spending so much money on conducting medicals for everyone if they are only going to hire 65? I try to think logical about everything, but this one just doesn't really make much sense. Good luck to all!

[marinecop2]

Why would they be spending so much money on conducting medicals for everyone if they are only going to hire 65? I try to think logical about everything, but this one just doesn't really make much sense. Good luck to all!


I have been trying to figure that one out when they called me and completed my medical last month. I thought the pta was right around the corner and nothing. Who knows, maybe they are getting a list together for FY08.

Still no email from Avue @ June 29th

[dnehack]

UMD,
They may be only hiring 65 for this FY, but I think since they are closing the applications that they have a big enough pool to hire for the next two years. There have been rumors that they have around 20,000 applicants. You have to remember FY08 is only 3 1/2 months away. Hope that helps.

I haven't received an email from Avue about 6/29. Question for everyone, I had a little inside information that I passed my interview with the highest rating...by no means here am I bragging because I am sure you all have too, and only have my medical and physical left. I was talking to Avue and they said they will be calling for a medical soon. Why would they be spending so much money on conducting medicals for everyone if they are only going to hire 65? I try to think logical about everything, but this one just doesn't really make much sense. Good luck to all!

[Tower]

dnehack is right. The 65 hires are only for this fiscal year. Everyone needs to keep that in mind if they don't get picked up for these two academies this fiscal year they could be hired for next fiscal year starting Oct 1. They are closing the announcement because they have a massive pool now.

[UMDBulldog]

You're right! I keep thinking 2008 is real far away(FY), but it really isn't. Here's my standing, which I'm sure I'll get crap for. I am 22 years old just graduated from College in May. Spent 6 months interning with an agency in St. Paul, MN which was phenomenal. I applied in Jan for the FAMS and started my process. Now I'm sure you're all saying that I'm too young, which is true, but they told me at my interview that age doesn't matter and that as long as I was at least 21 they could continue with the process. When I got the feedback from the interview that they really were impressed(by no means gloating right now), I was excited, but will DC throw me out saying that I'm too young? I wouldn't think going through all of this (and spending their money to complete everything) would lead me to a dead end. Am I correct? I appreciate all of the comments and help. This forum has been real informative!

[SD5326]

As posted earlier...........

That email is true. They have a list of people to hire for at least a few years. Don't be upset if you don't get the call.......... 65 is a very small number. Word on the street is that this is the last of hiring for 2 years or so.

One more thing. They have no idea when calls are going out either. They said it could be anywhere from June to October. I know guys........... it's an emotional roller coaster. FWIW I hope you guys get the call.



I wouldn't get too excited for any hiring to be done in the new FY unless you're on the last 65 list. The budget is under a crunch for the upcoming years And the word now is no more hiring for approx. 2years...... period. But I guess you could be optimistic hoping that the word changes, as this is the G we're talking about here. Trust me I wouldn't post it if it wasn't reliable. I hate rumors myself.

[gonefishin]

You're right! I keep thinking 2008 is real far away(FY), but it really isn't. Here's my standing, which I'm sure I'll get crap for. I am 22 years old just graduated from College in May. Spent 6 months interning with an agency in St. Paul, MN which was phenomenal. I applied in Jan for the FAMS and started my process. Now I'm sure you're all saying that I'm too young, which is true, but they told me at my interview that age doesn't matter and that as long as I was at least 21 they could continue with the process. When I got the feedback from the interview that they really were impressed(by no means gloating right now), I was excited, but will DC throw me out saying that I'm too young? I wouldn't think going through all of this (and spending their money to complete everything) would lead me to a dead end. Am I correct? I appreciate all of the comments and help. This forum has been real informative!


Some of the guys hired recently were young (22 - 23 yo) so I wouldn't worry about it. Just do well on the PTA and the interview.
By the way...did anyone see this video of the Secret Service agent pouring the water all over the floor at DCA. Check out the longer of the two videos and check out the incident report. Fun stuff!

http://www.tsa.gov/approach/mythbusters/index.shtm

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this video of the Secret Service agent pouring the water all over the floor at DCA. Check out the longer of the two videos and check out the incident report. Fun stuff!

It's debatable what her profession is right now. Orginal stories on Fox, Wash Post, and CNN said she was former USSS (didn't say if she was UD or an Agent)...... TSA Screeners said she pulled out some sort of Creds......and flashed those....

And the offical word from DHS/USSS is Nothing .....

They have yet to confirm her status......and haven't responded to media requests.....

Too bad there wasn't a couple of FAMS or some Airport Cops walking by to knock her in the damn head for acting like a fool....