DNA Dragneting

[NCHawk56]

This method has been used nineteen times within the United State. It has been used when LE is investigating a murder or rape and believe that DNA at the scene belongs to the suspect. In all nineteen cases those included in the dragnet were male.

L.E. engage in a mass collection of DNA samples, from all males that meet the description within the designated area. (Didn't you hear women don't commit crime) The DNA is placed in a database and run verses the evidence collected. That data is then saved for later investigation.

Of all nineteen DNA dragnet there have been no suspects detected, no convictions.

How do you feel about this process, do you see it as legitimate and in accordance with consititutional rights?

Stay Safe!!!

NCHawk56

[P_B_J]

I think they get the DNA samples by consent, no? The Constitution allows me/you to consent to this type of procedure.

[That Guy]

I think they get the DNA samples by consent, no? The Constitution allows me/you to consent to this type of procedure.

This is true. The majority of the states that have done this are looking for s specific suspect. They have told the participants that if they are not a match, they will destroy the sample. Well that

[Mraughh]

This method has been used nineteen times within the United State. It has been used when LE is investigating a murder or rape and believe that DNA at the scene belongs to the suspect. In all nineteen cases those included in the dragnet were male.

L.E. engage in a mass collection of DNA samples, from all males that meet the description within the designated area. (Didn't you hear women don't commit crime) The DNA is placed in a database and run verses the evidence collected. That data is then saved for later investigation.

Of all nineteen DNA dragnet there have been no suspects detected, no convictions.

How do you feel about this process, do you see it as legitimate and in accordance with consititutional rights?

Stay Safe!!!

NCHawk56

As long as consent has to be given to conduct the DNA tests, I doubt they'll get a conviction. I know if i were to commit, say, a rape, and got caught up in this dragnet, i sure as hell wouldnt give consent.

[P_B_J]

As long as consent has to be given to conduct the DNA tests, I doubt they'll get a conviction. I know if i were to commit, say, a rape, and got caught up in this dragnet, i sure as hell wouldnt give consent. Of course that's true, but when one of 38 people elects to not participate you have a "person of interest" to investigate, don't you.

[retired]

Of course that's true, but when one of 38 people elects to not participate you have a "person of interest" to investigate, don't you.

I can just imagine investigating all of the persons of interest we would have in Los Angeles because someone didn't consent to a search of DNA. :)

[NCHawk56]

On the issue of consent, I see asking a man in front of say his coworkers, family or friends to be a form of coersion, for the simple fact that refusing to participate will put doubt into the minds of those witnessing the interaction. Also, when a police officer approachers you and says s/he would like to take a sample because you match the description of the suspect, which could be as little as white male, it's very intimidating. I would feel obligated to comply. I do not believe the officers tell the men that they may leave if they wish.

Stay Safe!!!

NCHawk56

[P_B_J]

I would feel obligated to comply. I do not believe the officers tell the men that they may leave if they wish.Leave where? I thought the issue was consent.

Nobody's arrested, of course they're free to leave. That's understood, it doesn't have to be explicit. In almost every inteaction I have with a citizen they are free to leave. I don't go around saying to people, "you, sir, are free to leave."

Whether you "would" feel obligated has nothing to do with anything. What matters is whether the consent was given freely and knowingly. If it was, even if the suspect had a mistaken feeling that he was obligated, it just doesn't matter; he consented.