Well there goes republican support of LE

[Caspertoo]

I can't help but remember the photo shoot of the state troopers standing behind bush and the sign saying "troopers for bush".

I wonder how those troopers feel now that almost all federal financial support for local LE is being kicked to the curbside.

Remember homeland security STARTS AT HOME.

[irishlad2nv]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
I can't help but remember the photo shoot of the state troopers standing behind bush and the sign saying "troopers for bush".

I wonder how those troopers feel now that almost all federal financial support for local LE is being kicked to the curbside.

Remember homeland security STARTS AT HOME.

Hmmmmm....at least I didn't vote for him...:D

[6233108]

I am sure LE will make do without the handouts. The election is over you lost get over it.

[Delta784]

All the Federal money we got went for bull**** like community policing (a.k.a. Birthday & BBQ Squad) and DARE.

I don't think I'm going to notice any difference, and I much prefer the money be used to get the best equipment for our troops in harm's way.

[jnhdrac]

I will lose some ot money, but the Federal government should not have been paying it to begin with.

[6233108]

Originally posted by Delta784
All the Federal money we got went for bull**** like community policing (a.k.a. Birthday & BBQ Squad) and DARE.

I don't think I'm going to notice any difference, and I much prefer the money be used to get the best equipment for our troops in harm's way.

Listening to Bart and some of these other folks and you'd think our comfortable LEO jobs need the money more than our troops. Our jobs no matter where you work are comfortable compared to the troops. Bart Et al. quit yer freakin snivlin.

[Joseph]

Don't like losing the money but if our troops really benefit from it I can hang with that.

[Cruiser]

Delta said it right, very, very little of that money actually went to the troops. It was 'play' money for the politicians for the 'feelgood' projects and toys for the desk people. I'm one LEO, even if retired now, think we as a profession are much better off under the Republicians than the Democrats, at least for the most part anyway. At least we are allowed to arrest the bad guys now and not watch them hit the streets before we are done with the paperwork now.

[td3201]

Here is my $0.02....

We, as a country, need to do something about the defecit. That being said, where does the grant money go? I know as a reserve officer, we get grants every now and then for stuff but not very often and we are pretty self-sustaining. Have you noticed an increase of wage or overtime due to federal funding? (those are open, not loaded/rhetorical questions).

If the need for more funding is truly there, the local gvt will have to find it somewhere, sales tax increase, private funding options, etc. etc.

It irritates me a little when someone in office takes a little responsibility and makes tough decisions and follows through with them with tough action and the country whines about it.

This reminds me of a George Carlin skit:

NIMBY - Not In My Back Yard
It's a blanket term for opposition to projects that might have a benefit a great many people, but the people who live near the project itself are opposed because they would have to bear the majority of the disadvantages.

If Hillary gets voted, we can guarentee that the cuts for LE stay in place but instead they go to food stamps and welfare. Which, will snowball because those people will then trade their food stamps for drugs, therefore making you more busy, which will warrant the need for more LE funding. :)

[Joe Citizen]

On another note to funding cuts by the feds,
With the proposed cuts in education, do you feel safer? I mean how many college grads do you guys arrest vrs high school drop outs? Studies have shown that educated people are less inclined to become criminals.


P.S. I think the funding should not have been taken away from law enforcement ether

[keith758]

Joe Citizen, in response to your question of College vs. drop outs, I work the road for a college town. I've stopped more than my share of college kids and they tend to be somewhat more "snotty." Granted, traffic stops don't make them criminals, but they are just as liable to commit offenses. I've also got to add that I've stopped a number of college educated professionals as well.

To get back on the subject, most of our grant money went for overtime for catching speeders or OWIs. It was effective because the traffic fatality rate dropped, but I'm not sure we need to do such enforcement on solely a grant basis.

[benchmademan]

The election is over you lost get over it.

you, my friend, are a large part of the problem. you think your civic duty is done after you punch your ballot!? the founding fathers would have a good time beating you silly. healthy debate and discourse is what democracy is all about. if you support Bush then your constitutional obligation is to influence your circle with 'why'. the same for those that choose descent. it's actually the patriotic duty of an American citizen. go pull up a copy of the constitution and see for yourself. the only 'losers' in the political process are the people like you who contribute nothing but a vote.

[Creeker]

you, my friend, are a large part of the problem. ...the founding fathers would have a good time beating you silly. healthy debate and discourse is what democracy is all about. if you support Bush then your constitutional obligation is to influence your circle with 'why'. the same for those that choose descent. it's actually the patriotic duty of an American citizen. go pull up a copy of the constitution and see for yourself. the only 'losers' in the political process are the people like you who contribute nothing but a vote.

Pretty nervy to refer to founding fathers and be in support of the party that would like to censor books and free speech.

To get back on the subject, most of our grant money went for overtime for catching speeders or OWIs. It was effective because the traffic fatality rate dropped, but I'm not sure we need to do such enforcement on solely a grant basis.

Doesn't it bother anyone else that using funds this way drives up insurance costs for ALL of us?

From what I saw of Grant Money, all it did was give us fluff that in many cases wasn't even a need, but was generally Pork Barrell politics initiated by Felon in Chief Clinton.

[kbclawdog]

you, my friend, are a large part of the problem. you think your civic duty is done after you punch your ballot!? the founding fathers would have a good time beating you silly. healthy debate and discourse is what democracy is all about. if you support Bush then your constitutional obligation is to influence your circle with 'why'. the same for those that choose descent. it's actually the patriotic duty of an American citizen. go pull up a copy of the constitution and see for yourself. the only 'losers' in the political process are the people like you who contribute nothing but a vote.

Well said!

[Slippery Pete]

I work for a particular county in a particular state. My enforcement actions in my county have precious little effect on the rest of the country, so why should the rest of the country help pay my salary? If my department needs more money, it's up to the voters here to step up to the plate and pay for it. They, and they alone, should decide how much local government service they want to pay for.

Likewise, I don't want the federal taxes I pay to be going to programs that don't benefit the entire nation.

[Deputy757]

Being too reliant on federal funds also makes it much easier for them to step in with their "consent" decrees whenever they think they know better than the locals how LE should be run.

[6233108]

you, my friend, are a large part of the problem. you think your civic duty is done after you punch your ballot!? the founding fathers would have a good time beating you silly. healthy debate and discourse is what democracy is all about. if you support Bush then your constitutional obligation is to influence your circle with 'why'. the same for those that choose descent. it's actually the patriotic duty of an American citizen. go pull up a copy of the constitution and see for yourself. the only 'losers' in the political process are the people like you who contribute nothing but a vote.


Yeah, I am sure the framers would have been real big on "police officers" and they surely would view the funding issues as the responsibility of the particular political subdivisions. The framers would view today's police as something akin to a standing Army, back in the day it was the responsibility of all good citizens to keep law and order in their villages and towns.

You and your dissenting (learn to spell or learn proper definitions and usage)
opinions are doing nothing here on this stupid pathetic LEO board. I know how to contact my local legislators, not that it matters. The US Government has not been for the people for quite some time now, I voted purely on W's selection of John Ashcroft and his belief in the 2nd Amendment as an individual right. Please do not mention the "Patriot Act" as I could care less.