Poms and Yanks Worst Illegal Immigrants

[JohnKelly]

Poms and Yanks are the worst illegal immigrants and the worry is that they can't even play a decent game of Cricket or Rugby.

"Afghan and Iranian boat people create headlines but it's the Poms and Yanks who make up the majority of Australia's illegal immigrants.

There were more than 10,000 illegal British and American immigrants in Australia on June 30, 2004, making up about a fifth of all people who overstayed their visas and remained in the country unlawfully.

Another 3,900 Chinese illegal immigrants remained in Australia last year, along with 3,000 Indonesians and 2,800 South Koreans.

Afghans don't rate a mention while there were less than 200 illegal Iranians in Australia in June.

The new figures on illegal immigration were revealed in a report on immigration trends released by Immigration Minister Amanda Vanstone.

The report said that while visitors from the United Kingdom and the United States accounted for the highest number of visa overstayers, they were rated as low risk because the number was small as a percentage of the total number of Britons and Americans entering the country.

Around 15,000 illegal immigrants had been in the country for more than 10 years but many of the 51,000 unlawful visitors only stayed for a few days after their visa expired.

"Many people who are recorded as overstayers are simply extending a short stay in Australia by a few days or weeks and leave of their own accord within a short period," the report said.

Australia's population reached 20.1 million at the end of June last year.

The population growth in the 12 months to June 2004 was made up of 121,000 so-called natural increases - births less deaths - and 117,600 in net overseas migration.

Most migrants continue to come from the UK, followed by New Zealand.

The brain drain once again affected Australia, with the country losing almost 29,000 skilled workers - most of whom were young - through permanent emigration last year.

However, more than 44,000 skilled workers settled in Australia.

In total, 59,078 people left Australia permanently in 2003-04, the highest ever number.

The report found a quarter of Australia's workforce was born overseas, with computer professionals, accountants and managers/administrators the top three occupations of migrants prior to coming to Australia.

Humanitarian visas were granted to 788 people already in Australia last year, down from 897 the previous year.

The proportion of migrants settling in NSW was at it lowest level since 1983-84 as a result of a regional migration initiative.

Senator Vanstone said students and skilled workers were driving the change in Australia's migration intake.

"In the case of students, in 2001 the government changed the rules to allow overseas students in Australia to be able to apply to stay permanently as skilled migrants at the end of their studies," she said.

The report predicted Australia's population would swell to around 26 million to 27 million by the middle of this century."

Source: AAP

I personally think that we could do with a lot more Poms and Yanks, the only thing that you would need to do is learn how to play Cricket and Rugby and then we could play proper competition matches.

;)

Cheers.

[Sleuth]

Or you could learn to play baseball! Change the laws, and we could even teach you how to shoot!

[JohnKelly]

Originally posted by Sleuth
Or you could learn to play baseball! Change the laws, and we could even teach you how to shoot!

Nah thanks Mate, we're fine the way we are. There is a reason why we are known as The Lucky Country.

We can shoot, the thing is, the Australian Military and Police are required to hit the target with a single shot and not spray the entire area in the hope that we eventually might hit something. ;)

There is however one thing that the Australians and the Brits could teach the Americans, and that is how to use a knife and fork.

Cheers.

[BrickCop]

Originally posted by JohnKelly
There is however one thing that the Australians and the Brits could teach the Americans, and that is how to use a knife and fork.


That sounds great! And the Americans could show the Brits how to brush and floss. :D ;) :p

[Sleuth]

Well, John, I seem to recall that when I was "Down Under" for the World Pistol Championship, it was .... AN AMERICAN who won it.
Perhaps we need to set up some kind of postal pistol match among those on the board, to see who can shoot.
The hospitality was great, and we enjoyed our stays there, and later in England, where the World Pistol Chapmionship was won by ... AN AMERICAN - again!

[JohnKelly]

Originally posted by BRICKCOP
That sounds great! And the Americans could show the Brits how to brush and floss. :D ;) :p

BRICKCOP - I'll leave that one for a British retaliation, but it's not the killer blow that you might think it is. Stand-by for British comments on the increasing number of porky Americans.:eek: ;)

[i]Originally posted by Sleuth[i]
Well, John, I seem to recall that when I was "Down Under" for the World Pistol Championship, it was .... AN AMERICAN who won it.
Perhaps we need to set up some kind of postal pistol match among those on the board, to see who can shoot.
The hospitality was great, and we enjoyed our stays there, and later in England, where the World Pistol Chapmionship was won by ... AN AMERICAN - again!

Sleuth - Yeah fair enough Mate, but we can't win all of the games all of the time. At the World Police Games, Hong Kong beat us at Lawn Bowls. :(

Glad to hear that you were looked after during the Championships.

All in good fun.

Cheers.

[friedom77]

I'd love to visit Australia one day. I consider myself a pretty tough guy (not a beat you up tough guy, a handle the elements tough guy) and any place were an ant can kill you as soon as look at you and sharks can swim up through the toilet bowl and grab your *** seems pretty tough to me.

All kidding aside....I'd love to visit!

[1sgkelly]

John, at least you spell your name right.

Gd Day Mate.
:p

[JohnKelly]

:D - LoL @ friedom77

1sgkelly - G'day Mate, yes indeed; although it is interesting to research the different spellings ie O'Kelly, Kelly, Kelley and so on.

Sure if it wasn't for the Kelly's, you wouldn't have the fine Police Forces that you have today.;)

Cheers.

[Bobbycop]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnKelly


Sure if it wasn't for the Kelly's, you wouldn't have the fine Police Forces that you have today.;)


Your Uncle Ned must have been a bit of an embarrassment though?

[JohnKelly]

Originally posted by Bobbycop
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnKelly


Sure if it wasn't for the Kelly's, you wouldn't have the fine Police Forces that you have today.;)


Your Uncle Ned must have been a bit of an embarrassment though?

:o Yes, Uncle Ned was a bit of a worry, but it took a Kelly to catch a Kelly.;)

http://www.glenrowan1880.com/kelly.htm

Cheers.

[co911]

"We can shoot, the thing is, the Australian Military and Police are required to hit the target with a single shot and not spray the entire area in the hope that we eventually might hit something".

I can't agree with that John. I know of very very few Australian police officers who privately own firearms and even fewer who shoot offduty. Given that NSW police firearms training consists of 86 rounds PER YEAR fired during a single hour of "training", I'm not sure that most of your colleagues CAN shoot well. Consider also that NSW officers can't carry fireamrms offduty and are not permitted to shoot their duty firearms offduty even for practise and you have a serious problem.

Further, I'm not aware of any law enforcement firearms policy in Australia which requires a police officer to hit a target with a "single shot". It's worth noting that there are very very few incidents in Oz involving police discharging their firearms and the officers hardly ever come up against automatic firearms. Is this not the reason why your GD's officers as a rule do not have access to shotguns or rifles? This is not the case in the United States.

[JohnKelly]

Originally posted by co911
...Further, I'm not aware of any law enforcement firearms policy in Australia which requires a police officer to hit a target with a "single shot". It's worth noting that there are very very few incidents in Oz involving police discharging their firearms and the officers hardly ever come up against automatic firearms. Is this not the reason why your GD's officers as a rule do not have access to shotguns or rifles? This is not the case in the United States.

Sorry co911, I'm not interested in turning this in to another of the many gun debates that are located in the other Forums of this Website and in the other Law Enforcement Websites that we both frequent.

My 'Single Shot' comment was as a result of some light hearted banter directed at Sleuth.

I regard guns as a necessary evil and I am glad that you have been able to note that there are very very few incidents in Oz involving police discharging their firearms and that the officers hardly ever come up against automatic firearms.

Good!!! and long may it stay that way.

Cheers.

[Bobbycop]

http://www.glenrowan1880.com/kelly.htm

Nice beard John, I had wondered what you looked like.

[Ex-plod]

Sounds like we could teach co911 a bit about a sense of humour, I got your friendly fire joke John!

[Strummer]

John Kelly,

How about those pesky Irish immigrants? Worthless bunch, I tell ya. Good for nothing and terrible drinkers. Spread the word Down-Under, they're better off without the Paddies and Micks !!!!!

Later.

[JohnKelly]

No way Strummer. Australia wants more Irish!! and indeed many Australians have an Irish background and are very proud of their Irish heritage, me included.

The Australian fighting spirit, their drinking habbits, their support for the underdog and their willingness to give eveyone a fair go comes from the Irish pioneers or in many cases the Irish convicts that settled this great nation.

Sure America wouldn't be the great nation that it is today, if it wasn't for the Irish.

And in any case mate; in so far as immigrants go, I reckon the Irish would be the least of your problems and the same goes for Australia. ;)

[Sleuth]

John, the Irish, as well as all the others who came to America, have done their share to make America great. My family came here from Russia (both sides), and I felt that being a Federal Agent in part repaid this country for what it has allowed us to do and become.
I'm sure the Irish, the Americans, and all the others who have gone to OZ are adding their bit as well.

Have a jug on me!

[Marky Mark]

Originally posted by Strummer
John Kelly,

How about those pesky Irish immigrants? Worthless bunch, I tell ya. Good for nothing and terrible drinkers. "TERRIBLE DRINKERS" ? As an American of Scots-Irish heritage, I must take umbrage at that gratuitous assertion. We are serious, accomplished, PROFESSIONAL drinkers... :p

[1sgkelly]

Originally posted by Marky Mark
"TERRIBLE DRINKERS" ? As an American of Scots-Irish heritage, I must take umbrage at that gratuitous assertion. We are serious, accomplished, PROFESSIONAL drinkers... :p

I'll drink to that!

:p

[Stan Switek]

If not for whiskey, the Irish & Aussies might very well rule the world.

[MacLeod]

Nah we've done that once already, you yanks can have a go now. :D

Mac

[JohnKelly]

If not for whiskey, the Irish & Aussies might very well rule the world.

Hmmm, Irish Whiskey or Scotch Whisky, there are indeed some fine brews.

I like the odd sip of Glen Fiddigh (spelling?) from Scotland or Bushmills from Ireland but I do say odd, for they are indeed top shelf stuff.

Over the years, I have worked a fair bit with the old Jock but you need to be careful when you get them on the Whisky, cause they can turn on you without warning. Whereas the Irish, well, on the drink, they are such gentle folk. ;)

In so far as the Aussies are concerned, they are mainly Beer drinkers, although on a more serious note, Australian Wine sales, on both the local and export markets, have gone through the roof.

Cheers and Good Health.

[MacLeod]

Glenfiddich is what you're looking for i think John,

Try Glenmorangie, it's superior, or Highland Park a glass of which I am enjoying at this very moment. :)

Mac

[SuperSix5]

Whereas the Irish, well, on the drink, they are such gentle folk. ;)

It's when they don't drink that they get violent!

Who would have guessed that we're the Australian equivilent to Mexicans :D

Can you blame us for overstaying our welcome though? Where else in the world can you get drunk and box a kangaroo?

[JohnKelly]

I'd love to visit Australia one day. I consider myself a pretty tough guy (not a beat you up tough guy, a handle the elements tough guy) and any place were an ant can kill you as soon as look at you and sharks can swim up through the toilet bowl and grab your *** seems pretty tough to me.

All kidding aside....I'd love to visit!

:) - Here are some excerpts from American Author Bill Bryson's book on Australia titled, 'Bill Bryson Down Under',

"Let me say right here that I love Australia - adore it immeasurably - and am smitten anew each time I see Australia. The people are immensely likeable - cheerful, extrovert, quick-witted and unfailingly obliging. Their cities are safe and clean and nearly always built on water. They have a society that is prosperous, well ordered and instinctively egalitarian. The food is excellent. The beer is cold. The sun nearly always shines. There is coffee on every corner. Rupert Murdoch no longer lives there."

"Life doesn't get much better than this"

"Australia is the world's sixth largest country and its largest island. It is the only island that is also a continent, and the only continent that is also a country. It was the first continent conquered from the sea, and the last. It is the only nation that began as a prison.

It is the home of the largest living thing on earth, the Great Barrier Reef, and of the most famous and strinking monolith, Ayers Rock (or Uluru to use its now official, more respectful Aboriginal name). It has more things that will kill you than anywhere else. Of the world's ten most poisionous snakes, all are Australian. Five of its creatures - the funnel-web spider, box jellyfish, blue-ringed octopus, paralysis tick and stonefish - are the most lethal of their type in the world. This is a country where even the fluffiest of caterpillars can lay you out with a toxic nip, where seashells will not just sting you but actually sometimes go for you. Pick up an innocuous coneshell from a Queensland beach, as innocent tourists are all too wont to do, and you will discover that the little fellow inside is not just astoundingly swift and testy, but exceedingly venomous. If you are not stung or pronged to death in some unexpected manner, you may be fatally chomped by sharks or crocodiles, or carried helplessly out to sea by irresistible currents, or left to stagger to an unhappy death in the baking outback. It's a tough place."

"This was my fifth trip and this time, for the first time, I was going to see the real Australia - the vast and baking interior, the boundless void that lies between the coasts. I have never entirely understood why, when Australians urge you to see their 'real country' they send you to the empty parts where almost no sane person would choose to live, but there you are. You cannot say you have been to Australia until you have crossed the outback."

He concludes from an American perspective, "Australia is mostly empty and a long way away. Its population is small and its role in the world consequently peripheral. It doesn't have coups, recklessly overfish, arm disagreeable despots, grow coca in provocative quanties or throw its weight around in a brash and unseemly manner. Is is stable peaceful and good. It doesn't need watching, and so we don't. But I will tell you this: the loss in entirely ours.

You see, Australia is an interesting place. It truly is. And that is all I'm saying"

Many of you will have read Bill Bryson's other books and if you have an interest in Australia then his book 'Down Under' would be an excellent read.

Cheers.

[Sleuth]

"The food is excellent?"
Sorry, mate, not when I was there. Perhaps now you have learned the value of spices other than curry.

Although the kangaroo was tasty!

[JohnKelly]

"The food is excellent?"
Sorry, mate, not when I was there. Perhaps now you have learned the value of spices other than curry.

Although the kangaroo was tasty!

Hmmm, yes, quite a number of older Australians in particular, still prefer the traditional roast with the three vegies. However, over the years with the arrival of immigrants from various countries we now have a greater range of cuisine.

Hey!! - we now even have McDonalds!! ;)

[Sleuth]

Maybe you have MacDonalds, but they still need to learn how to use spices. After our visit to OZ, we went to that nearby pair of islands, what are they called? Oh yes, New Zealand. We tried a MacDonalds there, and the food was just as bad as if we were eating the plastic boxes!

But I will say that our friends in OZ put on a 'barbi' that was outstanding!

[JohnKelly]

G'day fellow Law Enforcement Officers. Chuck the Uniform and Gun in the Locker and come on down and chuck a prawn(shrimp) on the BarBee. :D

"Number of tourists reaches 500,000.

The number of international visitors to Australia broke 500,000 for the first February on record, the latest statistics have shown.

Tourism Minister Fran Bailey said 501,600 overseas tourists had flocked down under during the month - an increase of 10.3 per cent.

"We are well on track to a great tourism result in 2005 after a strong start to the year," she said.

Meanwhile, Tourism and Transport Forum managing director Christopher Brown said Chinese New Year celebrations had inspired the rise.

He said this was backed by the dramatic increase in visitors from China, at 65.8 per cent, Hong Kong, at 72.3 per cent and Malaysia at 23.6 per cent.

Visitors from the United Kingdom were also reassuring, with 3.2 per cent more arrivals than last year, he said.

Mr Brown said an increase of ten per cent in inbound tourists would pump an extra $115 million into Australia's economy.

"To have grown total inbound visitors by more than 10 per cent in the shortest month of the year is a strong result," he said." Source: Yahoo News Service