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Psycho Cop
10-12-2004, 07:21 PM
I am totally shock I have not seen a Forum or Thread were officers addressing issues related to Law Enforcement Rights or Employment issues. I guess police officers don

retired
10-13-2004, 10:53 AM
[i]

We are nothing more then underpaid crime-fighting guinea pigs and the cities are the laboratories and the neighborhoods are the cages. [/B]

Then why do you keep doing it?:confused:

Sgt. Friday
10-13-2004, 01:53 PM
Give yourself more time reading these forums.

Trust me after awhile you'll think that all Police Officers act talk like a bunch of old ladies sitting around the kitchen table smoking cigirertes and drinking coffee, BITCHING.:eek:

Sometimes after reading this forum I think we BITCH & Belly Ache more that the callers we respond to while on duty.:rolleyes:

We pass around tons of information, formats, policies, likes, dislikes, department and Officer imperfections, and oh yea, recepies.:p

Here we complain, bitch, hate, like and love, smile, laugh, and even shed a tear for our fellow Officers. We run the whole gammit here.

We know the joys, pains, fears, trusts, anguish, and courage, of the job. We talk of our personal relationships of the Officers,we the men and women that wear the badges of courage and honor. It takes a Cop to know a Cop.

Hang in here and bitch & belly ache with the rest of us, it makes the day alot easier. I promise we will laugh with you, laugh at you, pat you on the back and maybe even knock you down a peg or two when needed, we'll help keep you on the stright and narrow and keep you coming back for me, it's addictive. Just don't take it too personally. :D

CO_StayPositive
10-13-2004, 02:00 PM
Do you have a more specific issue, or are you just trying to start a general conversation regarding OT issues? (By the way, I've seen a few posts regarding this topic....maybe you haven't read deep enough into the forums.)

I personallly am content with the way OT is handled at my department. We have choices between selecting COMP or OT, dependent on the fact of an outside agency/entity hiring officers specifically for a off duty assignment, in which we only can take OT. We do have a cap on the amount of COMP time we can have stored (120 hours), but who doesn't need a day off every once in awhile?? There is no limit on how much COMP you can earn throughout the year, as long as you use some of it, and don't exceed 120 in your bank. (I personally use it as I earn it, so I have never run into the problem of having too much.)

So, I guess I would need to understand your complaint about OT before I could intelligently respond to a post about LE Rights.

Psycho Cop
10-13-2004, 08:04 PM
My Opinion: "We are nothing more then underpaid crime-fighting guinea pigs and the cities are the laboratories and the neighborhoods are the cages."

Retired wrote: Then why do you keep doing it?

Psycho Cop:
Respectfully Sir, to reply to your question is that I do not do Law Enforcement for myself, like so many others for the sake to wear the badge and tot the gun. As you know I am a servant, which mean my calling is to serve. Therefore, if I was doing for myself, then that question you asked could easily be answer. Enjoy your retirement; at least you no longer have to endure the stress that comes with Law Enforcement work.

Whew, some have to understand most department are stressful than others.

Retired I hope I didn

retdetsgt
10-15-2004, 04:29 PM
That's why we dumped any connections with national unions and created our own. It works fine. We may have to pay a little more for dues, but the members decide who gets political contributions and who doesn't. None have ever been sent to a national candidate. We found that national or even regional affiliations did little for us and usually was more interested in their own agendas rather than ours.

Our union has done well in protecting us from unfair labor practices and has gotten us pay and benefits that give us a pretty comfortable living and retirement.

Psycho Cop
10-19-2004, 03:38 AM
retdetsgt I like the ideal of the Independent Union, you and your other members establish. Reading what you post is exactly the type of feedback I wanted this thread to be about. You understood what I was saying about National Unions. I feel there nothing wrong for wanting to have military type benefits given to all police officers. Officers serve to make the streets of America safe. There's a great need for the military and there's a great need for police officers. If I was President...

SIGman1
10-19-2004, 05:22 PM
Psychocop-

You say on the one hand that you work at the job to serve, but on the other hand, you say the streets are laboratories and cages. Why would you want to serve in this type of place. Just out of curiousity, where do you work?

Psycho Cop
10-20-2004, 04:37 AM
SIGman1 wrote:

Psychocop-

You say on the one hand that you work at the job to serve, but on the other hand, you say the streets are laboratories and cages. Why would you want to serve in this type of place. Just out of curiousity, where do you work?

Psycho Cop Reply:

Let me asked do you SIGman1, feel that every street in American Whip cream and Ice Cream

SIGman1
10-20-2004, 02:54 PM
:( Whoa there, brother. I wasn't trying to be confrontational at all. It's possible that I just misread what you were saying. I can understand why soldiers are in Iraq fighting, as they really don't have any other choice. I understand that orders are orders, and that unless they are unlawful, you have to follow them. (please don't misread that as to think I am against the Iraq war, I'm not) But as a copper, we have the opportunity work where we want. If we don't like the "clientele" where we work, we can move to another department. I worked in a town that was almost entirely wealthy and "upper class" :rolleyes: people. I was there for only a year when I switched to another department where even though there is more poverty and crime, people have more respect for the police. (When I look at my paycheck, I sometimes wonder if that was the right decision, but I'm happier now, so I guess it was.) I had the choice to leave and I did.

Be safe out there, brother.