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PC August

12-15-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by NSWCop
Yeah gazza, I do believe that the only real INTERNATIONAL sports that the aussies aren't champions in is the Rugby (only just) and the soccer (football for our Pommy mates). And the soccer World Cup is not that far away, if only Soccer Australia can get their act together!!:D :D

Well, I'd say ice hockey and basketball are every bit as international as rugby, more so actually.

And I think the Aussies are a few centuries away from being champs at those sports...:p

nashynz

12-15-2003, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by PC August
Well, I'd say ice hockey and basketball are every bit as international as rugby, more so actually.

I could be wrong, and if I am you sports fans can correct me, but last I heard the top three sports competitions in the World where the Soccer World cup the Olympics and the Rugby World cup. I believe Ice hockey and basketball are a long way done the list for international popularity.

NSWCop

12-15-2003, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by PC August
Well, I'd say ice hockey and basketball are every bit as international as rugby, more so actually.

And I think the Aussies are a few centuries away from being champs at those sports...:p

Ice hockey and basketball.

If that is the only two examples of "international sports" that you can come up with I would suggest that you need to get out more :D

Anyway, I think that the Aussie girls are at the top of the basketball internationally (I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong?)

:D

I think you could probably "add" baseball to that list. Don't they have a "World Series"????? (snicker, snort, snicker..)
:D

Or what about "peat-bog swimming" I'm sure the Poms have that one safely sewn up too?????

PC August

12-16-2003, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by nashynz
I could be wrong, and if I am you sports fans can correct me, but last I heard the top three sports competitions in the World where the Soccer World cup the Olympics and the Rugby World cup. I believe Ice hockey and basketball are a long way done the list for international popularity.

You are wrong. Rugby?? Nobody in North America knows or cares about it. It attracts crowds of flies.

Funny how ice hockey and basketball draw international television audiences of hundreds of millions. Yeah, Michael Jordan is just a local name stateside, right? The greatest rugby player of all time, whomever that might be, couldn't afford to live in Jordan's poolhouse- thanks to his INTERNATIONAL popularity. More countries play basketball internationally than rugby. Outside of the UK, Australia, New Zealand, France and South Africa who REALLY plays rugby for that matter? You think scores of 346-0 mean the rest of the world could care less about the game? Your precious World Cup was just a bunch of boring blowouts until it got down to the very small handful of nations who could actually care less. Some international competition. Yeah, the USA is really putting their heart and soul into it aren't they? Give me a break.

In North America the best athletes play football, the sport folks actually care about. And of course, the Super Bowl TV ratings in Australia show that the Aussies wish they could play it too. Sorry about your luck, "mate".

I think you're the one who needs to get out more. And as soon as Australia gets some paved roads and some electicity you might even get the chance to.

geordiecop II

12-16-2003, 03:42 PM

Is it not true that had it not been for rugby league,
American football would not even exsist :p

nashynz

12-16-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by PC August
You are wrong. Rugby?? Nobody in North America knows or cares about it. It attracts crowds of flies.

I wished that I was so naive that I only considered what happened in my country as being international sport.

At least the flies know a good game when they see it.

PC August

12-16-2003, 08:00 PM

Yeah, North America is my "country".

At least as many countries play basketball, hockey and, for that matter, baseball as play rugby. But because your nation is good at one and not the others, your sport is the legit "international" one and the others are just regional? Who's the naive one?

The truth hurts, don't it?

JohnKelly

12-16-2003, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by PC August
I think you're the one who needs to get out more. And as soon as Australia gets some paved roads and some electicity you might even get the chance to.

Hey Mate, and I suppose you think that we still have Kangaroos, Wallabies and Wombats running up and down our main streets?

Well, apart from Brisbane and Melbourne we don't!!!

Sydney now has running water and sewerage connected to all homes.

However, some of the blokes still wear brown boots with their Tuxedos and the sheilas still insist on carrying handbags, wearing hats and seamed nylon stockings with suspenders, but no worries mate, we are still the lucky country.

Cheers,

JohnKelly
Australia

gazza

12-17-2003, 01:42 AM

lmaoooooooooooo.............rugby is our national sport ..new one on me thought it was aussie rules....the Aussies will remember this years ago the Dallas Cowboys came down under and one of the Aussie rules teams asked them if they would like to have a game of Aussie Rules the Dallas cowboys said Yes but when they saw a game between 2 teams they pulled out and said no way we are playing that game without our body armour..............Jeez John im sick of these bloody Roos on my back porch cant you take em back to your place and wish i could get a plumber to fix my sewer sick of using the bucket all the time and walking 10 miles (my backyard ) to dump it in the hole;)

co911

12-17-2003, 03:58 AM

Blokes and mates, please don't take PC August's ignorant posts as representative of US officers, it's not the case.

nashynz

12-17-2003, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by PC August
Yeah, North America is my "country".

Damn you own North America, who much did it cost.

Originally posted by PC August
At least as many countries play basketball, hockey and, for that matter, baseball as play rugby. But because your nation is good at one and not the others, your sport is the legit "international" one and the others are just regional? Who's the naive one?

The truth hurts, don't it?

Didn

JohnKelly

12-17-2003, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by co911
Blokes and mates, please don't take PC August's ignorant posts as representative of US officers, it's not the case.

No worries co911, I can't speak for the other blokes but as far as I am concerned its just a bit of banter between mates and that includes PC August.

Cheers,

JohnKelly
Australia

NSWCop

12-19-2003, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by PC August
You are wrong. Rugby?? Nobody in North America knows or cares about it. It attracts crowds of flies.
In North America the best athletes play football, the sport folks actually care about. And of course, the Super Bowl TV ratings in Australia show that the Aussies wish they could play it too. Sorry about your luck, "mate".

I think you're the one who needs to get out more. And as soon as Australia gets some paved roads and some electicity you might even get the chance to.

I have a confession:

Hi, My name is Michael and........(sob, sniffle, gasp..)...I'm a (oh God this is painful...).... a SAN DEIGO CHARGERS FAN!!!!

I feel better getting that off my chest. It's better than going to on of them new-fangled head doctors they got now.
Probably a good thing, it would take me days to go out to the back paddock and rope a set of roos to hitch to me Holden and then the trip to town over those goat tracks!

As for, whatcha call it? electrickery? got that too. just send the shelia out the back to pet the roos a couple of thousand times, when she's all charged up, I hook her to the fridge to keep the tinnies cool!! Oh and the brand new telly I got now, its colour, yep comes in both colours, black AND white!! Gotta be happy with that!!

Now that running water sounds dang un-hygenical. How can it be safe to drink, if its running all over the shop?? Could pick up any sort of disease. Nah, I prefer my water out of the rain puddles, thick, muddy and full of protein, just like God intended!

:p :p :eek: :p :p :p

krj

12-19-2003, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by JohnKelly
Hey Mate, and I suppose you think that we still have Kangaroos, Wallabies and Wombats running up and down our main streets?

Well, apart from Brisbane and Melbourne we don't!!!

Cheers,

JohnKelly
Australia

Funny you should mention that. When I moved to Canada somebody actually asked me if there were kangaroos running down the streets of our cities. I said "no" at the time - but had lived in Brisbane, so apparently I was wrong. Learn something new on O.Com every day :D :D

The State's best athletes play football?? Hardly. Tell that to Lance Armstrong or Ian Adamson - both American elite, world-class athletes. One is a lot more obscure than the other, but neither one has captured the American consciousness. These two, and many others, are far and away better athletes than our professional football players.

PC August

12-19-2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by JohnKelly
No worries co911, I can't speak for the other blokes but as far as I am concerned its just a bit of banter between mates and that includes PC August.

Cheers,

JohnKelly
Australia

Yep, the Aussie paved roads/electricity comment was intended as humourous banter. The rest of it I was and am serious about. I have a couple of chums from Melbourne, neither care a lick about rugby, both are Aussie Rules fans and both are big time NFL fans, specifically the Chargers (must be Darren Bennett's influence). Either way, the top athletes in N.A., in general, do play football. That doesn't mean every good athlete plays it, but no other sport combines speed and strength the way football does.

PC August

12-19-2003, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by krj

The State's best athletes play football?? Hardly. Tell that to Lance Armstrong or Ian Adamson - both American elite, world-class athletes. One is a lot more obscure than the other, but neither one has captured the American consciousness. These two, and many others, are far and away better athletes than our professional football players.

No, actually, they are not. Don't get me wrong, they're both great athletes and they both have a lot of heart, but when I refer to top athletes I do not mean the term subjectively. I am speaking of the strongest and the fastest and the most agile. And those are the football players. In what other sport do you find 260 pound guys who can cover 40 yards in less than 4.5 seconds and vertical leap 30 inches?

JohnKelly

12-19-2003, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by PC August
Yep, the Aussie paved roads/electricity comment was intended as humourous banter. The rest of it I was and am serious about. I have a couple of chums from Melbourne, neither care a lick about rugby, both are Aussie Rules fans and both are big time NFL fans, specifically the Chargers (must be Darren Bennett's influence). Either way, the top athletes in N.A., in general, do play football. That doesn't mean every good athlete plays it, but no other sport combines speed and strength the way football does.

That would be typical of your mates from Melbourne in the State of Victoria. Victoria is not a Rugby State but is in fact the Home of Australian Rules Football and the Victorians are very passionate about their code of Football.

However, the big problem is that Aussie Rules is not an International game and as a matter of fact, despite how much they try, it is not even a true National game and the Rugby States will always refer to Aussie Rules as 'Aerial Ping Pong'

Having said that, if you as an American Football fan, really want to see big men fly, then watch a game of Australian Rules Football.

Cheers,

krj

12-20-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by PC August
No, actually, they are not. Don't get me wrong, they're both great athletes and they both have a lot of heart, but when I refer to top athletes I do not mean the term subjectively. I am speaking of the strongest and the fastest and the most agile. And those are the football players. In what other sport do you find 260 pound guys who can cover 40 yards in less than 4.5 seconds and vertical leap 30 inches?

OK PC - I see where you're coming from, and you have a good point about the sheer athleticism of football players. But if I look at it from that perspective I would also have to say that pound for pound (and taking their body-weight-to-strength ratio into account) those little 90 pound gymnasts would also fit the definition. Elite gymnasts have exceptional muscular strength and endurance, dynamic flexibility, speed, agility, and aerobic and anaerobic capacities.

My point isn't to say that you are wrong - I think that you are actually righter (:)) than when I saw your post initially.

But exceptional athletic performance is a combination of many factors including innate ability, physiology, psychology and good training. When those stars are in alignment for a football player he becomes an exceptional football player. Same with gymnasts, and runners, and bicyclists, and adventure racers and all other athletes at elite levels of competition.

(Sorry to our international friends - didn't mean to hijack your thread). Hockey - learn to love hockey. Tougher dudes in pro sports, there is not :D

co911

12-21-2003, 01:45 AM

"Strongest, fastest and most agile"? In my opinion that award would go to world class Aussie surf lifesavers. I visited the Brisbane (Queensland) Police Academy in 1993. The record for the obstacle course was held by a top surf life saver turned police recruit. Although a few NRL-type footie players going through the academy had tried to beat it, the record was safely his, and may still be.

NSWCop

12-21-2003, 04:48 AM

Whilst I have to agree with co911's post about the fitness level of surf life savers, I don't think that any-one will disagree that for sheer professional athletes, the players of the NFL would have to rank amongst the best in the world. When you consider all the "baggage" they have to carry, i.e. body armour, helmets, etc, they would have to be amongst the fittest people in the sporting arena.
A lot of these guys can do the 100 metres (with full gear) in a lot less time than you would think possible!! You have to "tips your lid" to these blokes!
I have often thought that here in Australia, the land so proud of it's sporting achievements, that the fostering of sports at a junior level could be at least based on the American model, i.e. High School and University sports sponsored by the professional body responsible.
But I suppose that is the essential diference between professionals and the rest.
While Australia can be justifiably proud of its sporting achievements, for such a small country, we should remember that, in the sports that we excell in, the bill is footed by the tax-payer, in the guise of the national and State Institutes of Sport(s).
It is time that the bodies responsible for that sport take a more active, and by that I mean financial, interest in that sport!

Sorry about this, sometimes I just have to jump on the old soap-box!! :D