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MR.G23
03-10-2002, 10:23 PM
WHEN CONDUCTING A BACKGROUND CHECK IF A "FILE 15" IS RAN WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I THINK IT LIST ALL ARREST, BUT I'M NOT SURE!!! IF IT IS WHAT WILL COME UP TH E FINAL DISPOSITIN, OR ORIGINAL CHARGE??

LeeRoy
03-11-2002, 12:08 AM
I've conducted background investigations and have never heard of File 15.

kiser401
03-11-2002, 12:10 AM
Never heard of it.

Frogman
03-11-2002, 03:24 AM
It's an X-File and you can expect a visit from the MIB's who work for the IMF real soon...lol :D

petebroccolo
03-11-2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Mr.G23:
<STRONG>WHEN CONDUCTING A BACKGROUND CHECK IF A "FILE 15" IS RAN WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I THINK IT LIST ALL ARREST, BUT I'M NOT SURE!!! IF IT IS WHAT WILL COME UP TH E FINAL DISPOSITIN, OR ORIGINAL CHARGE??</STRONG>
If I heard, "File 13", that is slang for trash. Depends on who said it after checking what system.

You eMail me at work:
Pete.Broccolo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
from your work and we can discuss this.

Sorry, but I try to practice safe-eMail (troll-resistant).

comcen
03-11-2002, 05:56 PM
New York State, Police Information Network, (NYSPIN) utilizes a File System, via computer/teletype. NYSPIN interfaces with New York's Division of Criminal Justice Services, (DCJS), National Crime Information Center, (NCIC), National Law Enforcement Teletype System, (NLETS), and probably some more,... oh yeah, Department of Motor Vehicles, (DMV).

A File 15, per Federal guidelines, is not authorized for a backround check. A File 15 is Criminal History or commonly referred to in many jurisdictions as a "RAP-SHEET." To obtain a Rap-Sheet for a backround check, one is supposed to submit a fingerprint card.

For those of you that are into trivia, some of New Yorks File Numbers are:

File 1 - Stolen car/MC, etc..
File 2 - Administrative message to DMV.
File 3 - State Police Admin Msg.
File 4 - Hit & Run MVA.
File 5 - Wanted Person.
File 6 - Missing person or Runaway.
File 7 - Burglary Notice.
File 8 - Robbery Notice.
File 9 - Lost or Missing Property.
File 10 - Larceny.
File 11 - Violent Crime Notice.
File 12 - Homicide Notice.
File 13 - General Information.
File 13a - Arrest Notification.
File 15 - Various types, format, Criminal History.
File 16 - Stolen Lisence Plate.
File 25 - General Administrative message.
File 28 - Road & Weather conditions.

There are others, if I find them or remember, I'll edit this post.

[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: comcen ]

PeteBroccolo
03-13-2002, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by comcen:
<STRONG>
A File 15, per Federal guidelines, is not authorized for a backround check. A File 15 is Criminal History or commonly referred to in many jurisdictions as a "RAP-SHEET." To obtain a Rap-Sheet for a backround check, one is supposed to submit a fingerprint card.

For those of you that are into trivia, some of New Yorks File Numbers are:

File 1 - Stolen car/MC, etc..
File 2 - Administrative message to DMV.
File 3 - State Police Admin Msg.
File 4 - Hit & Run MVA.
File 5 - Wanted Person.
File 6 - Missing person or Runaway.
File 7 - Burglary Notice.
File 8 - Robbery Notice.
File 9 - Lost or Missing Property.
File 10 - Larceny.
File 11 - Violent Crime Notice.
File 12 - Homicide Notice.
File 13 - General Information.
File 13a - Arrest Notification.
File 15 - Various types, format, Criminal History.
File 16 - Stolen Lisence Plate.
File 25 - General Administrative message.
File 28 - Road & Weather conditions.
[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: comcen ]</STRONG>
So, if I was working for NY State Police, was out in a car that did not have a mobile work station and was radioing into my dispatch to do checks on a car and its occupants, would I ask, "Dispatch car 1, can I have a File 16 on New York 123ABC and File 13a on Surname Doe, Given 1 John, Date of Birth October 27, 1975?"

comcen
03-13-2002, 04:46 PM
From what I've observed of the NY State Police, they don't use numbers normaly. And as far as mobile work stations or MDT's go, only a few, well off agencies in NY have these in their cars.

Their radio procedures seem to require plain language. Example: If they require information from a license plate, they would say, "2X18 requesting data on NY registration ABC-1234, drivers license check on the registered owner, location, just over the city line on North St. in Mechanicville, 5678 (&lt;-Shield number)."

The only time I've heard numbers is when they broadcast a File troop wide. At various times throughout the day, SP will give out recent or especially HOT files, they refer to them as active items; paraphrasing them would sound like, "Fishkill to all cars and stations, stand by for active item review." They would then go over active or hot/fresh files.

Oh, I forgot, say a trooper file checks an individual and the person is wanted, the trooper is notified using a signal number and the appropriate file number, and then they may begin a confirmation process.

The file system in NY is statewide and used by all state, county, and municipal police agencies with NYSPIN terminals.

A file 13a would be sent by any agency that has made an arrest. Lets say Syracuse PD made an arrest of John Doe for Criminal Possesion of Stolen Property, 3rd degree and Mr. Doe is on Parole. A file 13a would be sent to surrounding agencies, the Onadaga County District Attorney, and NY State Parole notifying them of Mr. Doe's alleged offense.

[ 03-13-2002: Message edited by: comcen ]