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cheapboy
05-22-2001, 01:02 AM
How are they souped up? I have trouble picturing a stock crown vic keeping up with a porsche; what kind of modifications do you guys have done on your cars? And what kind of cars can still out run ya? I'm thinking Lotuses and such... But then you have helicopters and police radios for that...

Guard Dog
05-22-2001, 01:12 AM
Radioactive hamsters http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

They just run..run..run..

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Niteshift
05-22-2001, 01:42 AM
Porsches don't seem to run. Guys are afraid of wrecking them. Old Monte Carlos, Thunderbirds, old rusty Impala's.....those cars flee the police.

I've probably been in more pursuits involving old Cadillacs anything.

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cheapboy
05-22-2001, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Niteshift:
Porsches don't seem to run. Guys are afraid of wrecking them. Old Monte Carlos, Thunderbirds, old rusty Impala's.....those cars flee the police.

I've probably been in more pursuits involving old Cadillacs anything.



Lol! Seems as though that would be the polar opposite of what should be running.

PatrickM98
05-22-2001, 04:17 AM
The only major difference between the Interceptor model Crown Vic and the regular Crown Vic is the V8 engine. I think there are also some other performance enhancers, and better shocks, etc, but the engine is the main difference between the two cars. It's not too hard to find used interceptors either...my friend got a good deal on one and it runs great.

Check out this website for more info: http://www.fleet.ford.com/products_services/specialty_vehicles/2001police_interceptor.asp



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Don
05-22-2001, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by cheapboy:
Lol! Seems as though that would be the polar opposite of what should be running.

Nite is right here. Usually somebody who has put their money into an exotic car is not going to be the one to put it at risk. Usually when an exotic car runs, it is a stolen car. Though once in a while you will find one that "daddy" has bought (either for kid, or girlfriend.) These will occasionally run on you, but not often.

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720
05-22-2001, 03:48 PM
The only difference between a civilian Crown Victoria and the Police Intereceptor are...
-Cooling, hoses, added coolers and such so the car doesn't blow when idling often.
-Suspension is stiffened and the car sets 2 inches higher than a civilian model...yet in a recent Popular Mehcanics test, the civilian CV out ran the PI in the slalom test.
-Electrical system, the alternator is bigger to accomodate the added electronis, lights/siren, computer, radar and radio.

For more info check this article... http://popularmechanics.mondosearch.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=8527618&host_id=1&page_id=1796&query=police+interceptor

Brad

DesertRat
05-22-2001, 03:55 PM
You're totally leaving driving skill out of the equation here. Unless someone just has a super car that is going to getout of sight in the first 30 seconds we have most of the advantages. We are taught to multi task while driving, we know where the dead ends and potholes are, and most importantly, very rarely is there only one of us. It's usually not your skilled race car driver running fromus. Typically the car has more doors than the driver has IQ points.

mac90
05-22-2001, 04:14 PM
Most all of the ones I have worked on have been rigged so that the driver could not put the trans in manual low, to avoid blowing the motor from excessive rpms. But now days some if not all have rev limiters so that can't happen.

Guard Dog
05-22-2001, 04:38 PM
Oh for the good old days of the Dodge 440 and Hemi's. In the days when we still chased balz out on the flats. We got clocked at 140+ chasing a Vette down one of expressways. Oh did we do stupid things http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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RPD Explorer
05-22-2001, 05:28 PM
We had a Dodge Viper run from our officers once. Needless to say, the Viper never had to look back. http://www.officer.com/ubb/mad.gif

Mike

FLLawdog
05-22-2001, 08:57 PM
You're totally leaving driving skill out of the equation here....

AMEN, D.R.!!!

One of our Deputies did lose a Pinto a few months ago. It never really got to be a pursuit. He said he had a Pinto run from him and then backed that up with..."I lost him." I'm sorry, but I don't think I could have admitted that!

I've been in pursuits against an Isuzu pickup(runs good in a straight line, but the equipment and the drunk couldn't quite handle the turn. Oh, and the passengers in the bed of it got one HELL of a ride!), an F700 high cube, refrigerated fish truck(once again...drunk. Also, know the area in which you're leading the cops on a chase. Don't drive a big truck down a tight cul de sac.), a '99 Jetta(coulda gave me a problem, but, the driver had no skills...he spun it on a fairly easy right turn attempt), a Toyota 4-Runner(thanks to our policy, I had to let him go...no pursuit criteria. He was all over the place. Had ZERO skills!) and a POS late 70's 4 door Caddy.This one was fun! My partner was primary and cut off the pursuit. I didn't have time to brake and make the same turn, so I jammed the gas and pulled right up on the rear bumper of the Caddy at a high rate. He thought he was home free when my partner broke off, so he backed off. Once I got behind him, he thought I was gonna PIT him, I guess, and nailed the accelerator. A HUUUUUUGE puff of black smoke came out of his exhaust and he went on out of county. Remember Top Gun? "We can't shoot 'im, so we might as well have fun with 'im!"

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CopInNY
05-22-2001, 09:59 PM
Police Interceptor Crown Vics are identical to "stock" Crown Vics except for a few minor differences. First off, the most common misconception is that they are "souped" up or modified to go faster. Sorry..but they are not. They do however have what is called a "severe-duty package" which is simply an option to add some mechanical features to stand up to the rigorous driving that patrol cars see. They include an oil cooler, transmission cooler, higher amperage alternator and also I BELIEVE, bigger brakes, but I may be wrong on that last one.

So there it is. Those are the differences. The only reason we stay with those rare sports cars that choose to run are because we can drive the hell out of anything with 4 wheels. http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/wink.gif

Niteshift
05-23-2001, 02:50 AM
DR.....you are way right bro. http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif

Patrick, the engines are identical 4.6L V-8's.



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swatbwana
05-25-2001, 04:59 PM
Bigger brakes, balanced drive shaft 2000 and newer, heavy duty seat frames heavy duty steel wheels. And in 2001 models a higher output V8 but the ger ratio was changed so a 2000 and a 2001 accelerate roughly at the same rate.

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MSPintern
05-26-2001, 07:25 PM
The CV's the State Police have here are limited to 125mph, although in a pursuit we had one car up to 130. They are smooth at that speed though-on an interstate.

phuzz01
05-26-2001, 09:18 PM
Hey MSPintern,

Which MSP? Lot's of states with M's. Just curious.

Alex

BayouSS
05-28-2001, 02:14 AM
My personal car (01 SS) can blow the doors off my 01 Crown Vic. even outrun a Camaro interceptor, but it can't outrun radio waves.
I thought that the 4.6 engine was the same as in Mustang GT- if so doesn't it have larger fuel rods (rials) and larger air intake? Kinda like chevy does to the LS1 for corvette vs camaro (Same engine but slight diferences give the Vette more HP).

MSPintern
05-28-2001, 10:24 PM
http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gifMichigan State Police PHUZZ01

Zaw
05-29-2001, 06:59 PM
They're nothing much special. You can buy a new vic from Ford Delar and order some parts to make a Interceptor.

At least Caprice get LT1(vette) engine for 9C1 Package. Wich Regular caprice don't have. Then they came out with IMPALA's which were civilian version of 9c1 packaged Caprices.