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jb2323
01-07-2011, 02:17 PM
Heading down to FLETC soon (CITP), and wondering what the internet speed and connections are like (looking to nerd-it-up on some Black Ops while down there)?

I read the student information page, but its a little vague.
http://www.fletc.gov/student-information/wireless-internet-service.html

The last thread on FLETC is pretty ancient (pre-2009).

Also, any updated / relevant advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

audi0xpl0de
01-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Last time I was down there they had just installed wifi for around $30-$40 a month.

jb2323
01-07-2011, 02:31 PM
Highspeed?

audi0xpl0de
01-07-2011, 03:24 PM
Yep, it was high speed.

alien11
01-07-2011, 05:08 PM
JB2323,

It all depends on where you are housed. They just upgrade the switches at taj and speeds are pretty good now, but I doubt good enough for xbox live.

Kimble
01-07-2011, 09:16 PM
I haven't been to FLETC in a couple years, but when I was there the only people to get good bandwidth for Xbox Live/PSN were those with air cards. Those of us that tried WiFi had constant bandwidth issues, though maybe that's change in the last 2 years.

DARE_SUPPORTER
01-07-2011, 10:57 PM
I was there in Feb 2010, Internet was good, very quick...You can buy it by the week or month for a set price.

tjacks7
01-08-2011, 11:00 AM
This may be a stupid question.. but is it wireless and/or hardwired into the dorms? Also planning on bringing the Xbox, just want to know if I need a wireless card! :)

TrappeBier
01-08-2011, 12:23 PM
Its wireless, slow during peak times, fast when people aren't around and are sleeping. I am here now, leave Tuesday.

alien11
01-08-2011, 01:45 PM
TJacks,

The Taj has hard-wired ports by your desk and wireless. Speed is decent for netflix streaming and general web-surfing, I highly doubt you'll be able to play xbox live or anything similar. The high speed bandwidth costs about $40 a month. The only place you could use your wireless cards (AT&t and such) would be the crackhouses, reception at the 180's sucks! you have to walk outside simply to make a call.

tjacks7
01-08-2011, 02:35 PM
TJacks,

The Taj has hard-wired ports by your desk and wireless. Speed is decent for netflix streaming and general web-surfing, I highly doubt you'll be able to play xbox live or anything similar. The high speed bandwidth costs about $40 a month. The only place you could use your wireless cards (AT&t and such) would be the crackhouses, reception at the 180's sucks! you have to walk outside simply to make a call.

Thank you sir, great info!

gragoat06
06-26-2011, 08:56 PM
I know that there's a decent contingent of us on the forum that are getting prepared to ship out to FLETC in the next month or two, so I figured I might revive this thread and see if we can get some current, relevant information. I have at least two questions at the moment that I haven't seen answered in any of the other threads.

1. Is there a library at FLETC or anywhere nearby? (for pleasure reading, not reference stuff)

2. Does Virgin Mobile cell phone service work in that area?

Thanks for any answers and I'm sure that I and others will come up with more questions.

AZDesertRat
06-26-2011, 10:05 PM
I know that there's a decent contingent of us on the forum that are getting prepared to ship out to FLETC in the next month or two, so I figured I might revive this thread and see if we can get some current, relevant information. I have at least two questions at the moment that I haven't seen answered in any of the other threads.

1. Is there a library at FLETC or anywhere nearby? (for pleasure reading, not reference stuff)

2. Does Virgin Mobile cell phone service work in that area?

Thanks for any answers and I'm sure that I and others will come up with more questions.

1) Yes, they do have a "library" but not like a local or county one at home. Books are dated and not all that great.

2) Cant help you, other than to suggest you check the coverage maps for VM and Sprint. T-mobile and ATT work... ok. Verizon will be the better of the major carriers.

Cop2Fed
06-27-2011, 09:33 AM
Concur with the FLETC library. Don't know about the local one, but I wouldn't hold my breath. There was a B&N or a Books-a-Million in town. That might suit you.

As for cell service, I recall that nobody got very good coverage on FLETC itself, but in town it was about what you'd get anywhere.

Brunswick is a sleepy town, but a little on the white-trashy side (and I grew up in the South!). Generally, the locals ignore you as they go about their daily lives. St. Simon's or Jekyll Island are just up the block basically from FLETC and are really great to hit for a day with a cooler full of beer and a swimsuit. If you're more into making it a weekend, head to Savannah (great club district) or Jacksonville. Either one is about an hour up (or down) the road. Oh, and don't forget about Pam's. I was a former cop when I attended FLETC... Pam's is good for a visit just to see all the history they have on the walls of that place.

FLETC was pretty good about sponsoring social activities... deep-sea fishing trips, football games, that sort of thing. Depends on when you're there I guess.

To be honest, being at FLETC reminded me a lot of garrison life on active-duty. So, if you've experienced that, FLETC will seem a little familiar. Routine, boredom, etc.

Caveat here... I attended the Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP). The Uniform Training Program guys seemed to have it a bit harder.... always saw them getting marched around and wearing uniforms like they were in basic training. CITP pretty much just expected you to be at certain places at certain times. Show up with all the stuff you needed when you needed it and you'd be okay.

Kimble
06-27-2011, 10:10 AM
FLETC was pretty good about sponsoring social activities... deep-sea fishing trips, football games, that sort of thing. Depends on when you're there I guess.


The only caveat I'll add to this point is when I was there (2007) a lot of the FLETC-sponsored recreational activities sold out way to quick. Especially football games in JAX. Had I known then what I did almost 6 months later when I graduated, I would have looked at the football schedule for games when I first got there and bought tickets months in advance, trying to buy them even a couple weeks in advance will land you without a ticket. Some of the other popular events, like shark fishing, could also be tought to get registered for if you waited the week of the event.

The casino boat under the Brunswick bridge always seemed to have space available, go figure! :D Just remember - whatever you do - stay away from the Red Carpet Lounge, your eyeballs will thank you.

GoldBadge
06-27-2011, 10:15 AM
Just remember - whatever you do - stay away from the Red Carpet Lounge, your eyeballs will thank you.

http://www.stsimonsislandexperience.com/site/539680/photos/logos/redcarpetloungelogo.jpg

jtl323
06-27-2011, 08:29 PM
As far as cell service goes, I have AT&T Iphone, which works great outside or in the surrounding town, however in order to talk on the phone in the dorm room, I have to stand on the air conditioner next to the window to get a signal, and even then it's not great. A classmate has Iphone for Verizon, he says he has no problem with service in the dorm rooms. This info could also depend highly on which dorms you get, the Taj or the "others". Any other questions, i'd be happy to answer, Im here now.......yay.

gragoat06
06-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Thanks for all the great info. I think I will look into getting to some football games. I'm actually heading there for CITP. I've done the whole boot camp thing before, so as far as I see it, the less time spent marching and singing cadences, the better.

k91king3
06-28-2011, 05:41 PM
My GOD! How times they have a changed. Wi-Fi, Highspeed? When I was there (10 Yrs ago) it was dial up! and whats all this about FLETC sponsored events? All we had was the "G' bar and every once and a while they had some free kegs on saturday nights. Sounds like FLETC has come a long way.........

MPK9
06-28-2011, 09:51 PM
I loved FLETC....

gragoat06
06-29-2011, 11:06 AM
Did anyone try to get paid through the GI Bill's "on the job training" program while at FLETC? I believe it's possible, I just need to get a hold of HR.

Cop2Fed
06-29-2011, 02:38 PM
They will not. I tried. The dealie with that is that the VA won't cover training programs paid with Federal money. Local or State PD academies, yes... but not Federal.

BKsfinest10
06-29-2011, 08:58 PM
So you get regular salary when you are stationed at FLETC and how long after you graduate do you report to your work locations speaking for CPBO's.

gragoat06
07-05-2011, 05:09 PM
Was there anything (other than a vehicle) that you really wish somebody had told you ahead of time to bring to FLETC?

jtl323
07-05-2011, 06:04 PM
If you care about your "own " stuff, bring a pillow and blanket, they'll be much more comfortable. A car, a bicycle if you are one of those agencies that are allowed to use them, beach related items if you care. And if at all possible, a CAR. A lot of guys bring their own dvd players/laptops, and plenty bring xbox's or playstations.

five04zog
07-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Ditto on all. I've been to FLETC 4 times now. Had a car once (so nice if you can). I had a bike a few times (nice if you can). I was at the Taj twice, off base once and the crack houses by the G-bar once (nice when you come home sick-drunk). The Taj is nice but you need a bike. You can always buy stuff used and cheap off students about to graduate, and wall-mart is fun for people watching and cheap new stuff. Have fun and always follow the scenario to it's logical conclusion :-).

UD4LIFE
07-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Activities at FLETC and some hotel info for visitors - http://www.fletcforum.com/2010/08/25/fletc-golf-kayaking-biking-and-fishing/

Packing list - http://www.fletcforum.com/2010/08/16/pack-your-bags/

Pre FLETC workout - http://www.fletcforum.com/2011/03/30/10-week-pre-fletc-pt-program/

Have fun...I miss that place...good times


Was there anything (other than a vehicle) that you really wish somebody had told you ahead of time to bring to FLETC?

BoricuaLEO
07-07-2011, 07:06 PM
I am headed to FLETC this coming up Wednesday, as I begin the IEA Academy July 14th. I will provide as much information as I can about FLETC. I have been to Artesia, but not FLETC, so forums like this are great and will help tons of people in the future. BTW, I am driving, knowing already how important having a car is.

DogCop927
07-08-2011, 05:35 PM
Will be staying in 187. Anyone know what the building/ rooms are like there?

manstown
07-09-2011, 11:17 AM
I will tell you this:

The two times I was down there as a student I brought a sleeping bag (that I slept in on top the bed....imagine how many slept in there before you and what went on), my own pillows, laptop (bought a cheap printer for my room at the walmart....it is a lot easier to do your work in your room than going across campus to a full computer room), a few pieces of clothes for the season(s) and of course my car. We weren't allowed to ride bikes so I didn't bring/get one. Car is key. There were times when I just needed to get out of there and get something different to eat, get away from the campus or just to get a beer. As far as the laptop and printer, it saves you time. After a few weeks I would have people come to my room with there memory stick and print their things out. It's a time saver and convenient. Plus walmart has some cheap ones that will last you the few months. And than the sleeping bag....just trust me on this one. I just threw it on top the bed and that was that.

manstown
07-09-2011, 11:23 AM
187 are the nice rooms they refer to as the Taj. You'll probably have a roommate. Pros and cons to staying there. Cons...you have a roommate, pretty far away from everything (you should bank on having a bike with you). Pros...they are the nicer of the rooms. You'll have all you need as far amenities....kitchen, microwave, sink etc. Oh and I think there's a pool outside of there. But there is also one at the old side of the dorms. The older dorms aren't that bad. Stayed there both times I went down as a student. Get your own room and share a bathroom with the room next to you, which isn;t bad unless the jackass in the other room locks the door when they shower and forget to unlock it when they leave. Won't say which agency he was in, CBP, but it happened all the time. I even put a note on his door when he left the bathroom saying, "door unlocked?"

I went on a little tangent there didn't I?............Getting old I guess.

DogCop927
07-09-2011, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the info. Exactly what I wanted to know. Tomorrow is the big EOD!


187 are the nice rooms they refer to as the Taj. You'll probably have a roommate. Pros and cons to staying there. Cons...you have a roommate, pretty far away from everything (you should bank on having a bike with you). Pros...they are the nicer of the rooms. You'll have all you need as far amenities....kitchen, microwave, sink etc. Oh and I think there's a pool outside of there. But there is also one at the old side of the dorms. The older dorms aren't that bad. Stayed there both times I went down as a student. Get your own room and share a bathroom with the room next to you, which isn;t bad unless the jackass in the other room locks the door when they shower and forget to unlock it when they leave. Won't say which agency he was in, CBP, but it happened all the time. I even put a note on his door when he left the bathroom saying, "door unlocked?"

I went on a little tangent there didn't I?............Getting old I guess.

1806
07-09-2011, 02:07 PM
So you get regular salary when you are stationed at FLETC and how long after you graduate do you report to your work locations speaking for CPBO's.

Yep. As a CBPO, you collect your regular salary there. It's just your regular salary. There's no shift differential or Sunday pay. After I graduated I took a couple of days of leave and then reported to work. It's up to your training office. They should square that away with you when you go. Once you get back from FLETC and start working as a CBPO, it will seem like you're getting a raise because of all the various incentive pay depending on how your port does things.


They will not. I tried. The dealie with that is that the VA won't cover training programs paid with Federal money. Local or State PD academies, yes... but not Federal.

I actually was able to get it. The VA will pay with the GI bill. It just takes time and is a hassle.

manstown
07-09-2011, 05:36 PM
We actually have a guy that does it for everyone our office.

Cop2fed, if you didn't get it, I'd call and look further into it. I know plenty of people that were given a good bit of cash for their time at training.

xbull
07-09-2011, 10:19 PM
187 are the nice rooms they refer to as the Taj. You'll probably have a roommate. Pros and cons to staying there. Cons...you have a roommate, pretty far away from everything (you should bank on having a bike with you). Pros...they are the nicer of the rooms. You'll have all you need as far amenities....kitchen, microwave, sink etc. Oh and I think there's a pool outside of there. But there is also one at the old side of the dorms. The older dorms aren't that bad. Stayed there both times I went down as a student. Get your own room and share a bathroom with the room next to you, which isn;t bad unless the jackass in the other room locks the door when they shower and forget to unlock it when they leave. Won't say which agency he was in, CBP, but it happened all the time. I even put a note on his door when he left the bathroom saying, "door unlocked?"

I went on a little tangent there didn't I?............Getting old I guess.

I don't know when you went through, but at the Taj we had our own rooms, and this was just last summer pretty much at the peak of the FCIP classes that the Marshals were pushing through. But you hit it on the head about the car, somedays I just had to get away from the campus.Especially to get away from FLetc chicken and certain instructors who like to check trays "Its a Lifestyle change there Crazy!" You might know who I am talking about with that one. And I went home every weekend I lived in Jacksonville at the time and it was good not to depend on other people for a ride.

manstown
07-10-2011, 08:24 AM
I was down there about this time last year helping out, and they had the Taj doubled up. Now that does change from time to time depending on the number of people going through there. That's why I said probably. But when I was down there the second time, ICE had those building booked up and they were single rooms. First time I was down there they had people sharing the rooms over at the Taj. These days with agencies not all hiring in bunches, the OP may have their own room.

And yes I remember the cafeteria tray checks. Funny how people would be smokin and jokin one minute, than they would walk in and wouldn't even look up.

GoldBadge
07-10-2011, 11:30 AM
I heard that FLETC is pretty empty these days. I don't know if it's a temporary loll, or due to the hiring freeze.

neflcop
07-10-2011, 04:55 PM
What agency checks trays? I was there the first part of 2010 and I don't remember anybody
checking trays at the chow hall.

manstown
07-10-2011, 05:21 PM
what agency checks trays? I was there the first part of 2010 and i don't remember anybody
checking trays at the chow hall.

usms.....

UD4LIFE
07-10-2011, 06:10 PM
Also BOP and CBP...that tray need to be FILLED UP!

Kidding of course...


usms.....

xbull
07-10-2011, 08:24 PM
What agency checks trays? I was there the first part of 2010 and I don't remember anybody
checking trays at the chow hall.

"Holy Mackeral Batman!, Whats that on your tray Crazy?!" Do you realize that is a Belly Bomb you got right there!?"

Gosh I can still hear his voice in my head, those you who went through the Marshal academy last year know who I am talking about. lol

gragoat06
07-11-2011, 06:27 PM
Thanks for all the great information that everyone is supplying. It is really helpful.

As far as getting "on the job training" benefits paid from the GI Bill, the personnel people at my new SAC seem to think it is possible and are having me fill out all the paperwork -- unfortunately, they aren't being particularly helpful with some of the forms. Specifically, I'm supposed to fill out one that tells how many hours per month I will be training. Does anyone know this figure for CITP/ICESAT? If not, I will just calculate and estimate. I've heard training is generally 7:30-4:30, 5 days a week -- is this accurate? How many times a week and for how long is PT normally done?

Thanks again for all the helpful comments.

jtl323
07-11-2011, 07:57 PM
"Holy Mackeral Batman!, Whats that on your tray Crazy?!" Do you realize that is a Belly Bomb you got right there!?"

Gosh I can still hear his voice in my head, those you who went through the Marshal academy last year know who I am talking about. lol
He's still here :)

manstown
07-11-2011, 08:42 PM
And it wasn't just last summer! He's been doing it for some time now.

UD4LIFE
07-11-2011, 09:50 PM
I am sure it was funny once/twice but if this is still going on...dude needs to reinvent his act a little. I wouldn't doubt the other instructors cringe when he does it.

There was a smaller USMS guy with Irish last name in the mid 2000's, he was PT machine. Never did so many jumping jacks and push ups in 50 mins...insane


And it wasn't just last summer! He's been doing it for some time now.

tnm78
10-16-2011, 10:34 PM
I heard that FLETC is pretty empty these days. I don't know if it's a temporary loll, or due to the hiring freeze.

Hello all,
Just have a quick question. I EOD Nov. 3 for IEA training and was wondering about time off for Christmas. I'm not planning on returning home, but do they offer any time off for those that would consider returning for the holidays?
Thanks!

neflcop
10-17-2011, 07:45 AM
Hello all,
Just have a quick question. I EOD Nov. 3 for IEA training and was wondering about time off for Christmas. I'm not planning on returning home, but do they offer any time off for those that would consider returning for the holidays?
Thanks!

I was there two years ago for the IEA academy. They had two days prior to Christmas designated as non-training days. If you had leave you could take it. Those like myself that didnt have leave reported and just watched movies all day. Pretty much only those that were prior feds had leave.

dirk551
10-22-2011, 12:01 AM
Also BOP and CBP...that tray need to be FILLED UP!

Kidding of course...

usms...

nojustice
11-10-2011, 05:57 PM
Great thread guys, does anyone know any upcoming class dates for future IEA's. I know one just started 11/3 and maybe some of you in that class can share details