another question

[[86er]JimmyPop]

i wish to know if you think that prisoners such as mumia abu jamal, who wish to speak out against the system?

[LeeRoy]

Nice grammar. Edit your question so it makes sense kiddo.

[Metro174]

Please translate this into a coherant sentence so that we know what in the hell you are talking about. :confused

[John from Maryland]

He killed a cop! Isn't that speaking out against the "system"? He should be executed. I have heard some rumors that if death row inmates are released due to political correctness or DNA they will hunt down and murder suburban gangsta-wantabes. Priority will be given to illiterates.

[Niteshift]

What is the question? Did you forget it before you finished asking it?

[Shaft]

What happened to proofreading?

[Niteshift]

He couldn't spell proofreading, so what makes you think he could do it?

[Dilbert]

Anybody seen the movie "Fargo"? How about putting Mumia and Jimmy in a chipper together??

[FLLawdog]

"BEEP BEEP"

Short bus just pulled up. Time for you to go to "special school", Jimmy.

[OfcShane]

When did you drop out of school, 2nd grade?

[Kitty]

http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Just keeps gettin' funnier!

[Jen]

Actually Shane, you are giving 2nd graders a bum rap! This fella couldnt have gotten past 1st.

http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Teufelhunden]

I wish all I had to do all day is ponder society and offer support to copkilling criminals who are just speaking out against the system.Maybe you should have conjucal visits with your buddy Mumia rafghan usami ben Laden.....you disgust me.

[MetaLuna]

Well, now you've scared him off.

[Sparky]

I think he bravely ran away!

http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif

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-Sparky
Fiat justina.

[dkiefner]

when danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled......

And there was much rejoicing

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Dave Kiefner
[i]Die Wahrheit ist eine Perle. Werfen sie nicht vor die S

[Pnutt]

I'm still trying to uncross my eyes on this one. My options seem to be:

1-This person is just learning to speak English.

2-This person is in disguise.

3-This person has the intelligence of a fruit fly.

4-This person is hard of hearing so, consequently, can't see what he's writing.

Constance

[This message has been edited by Pnutt (edited 06-20-2000).]

[lapdog]

Jimmy,
Do you mean the justice system or the
prison system ? When you are convicted
of a crime and become a prisoner, you no
longer have the same rights that you had
as a citizen. Should he be allowed to
speak out against the system ? Sure, as
long as he is alone in his cell and no one
is listening. Its just my opinion but
convicted killers don't have any rights
left.

[rpdRULES]

YOU GUYS ARE MEAN! But its funny as hell! LMFAO

[CJ122]

Hey Jimmy,
Take some advice: Get off the internet and look at an English grammar book! It might help you---you really look like an idiot when you post here.

CJ



[This message has been edited by CJ122 (edited 06-23-2000).]

[MaW]

This place is pretty entertaining. I knew there was a reason I like browsing cop sites.

Oh, and one of the points of prison is that your rights are given to you at the discretion of the state, so should he be allowed to speak out against the system? Sure, you can't stop him without actually gagging him twenty-four hours a day. But you don't have to let him have a public forum for it.

[David]

The only forum this ********* should be allowed is to tell the guard, who is strapping him to 'old sparky', is if the straps are too tight.

Yes/ no, that's enough for his forum.

Fry, mutha*****r, fry!!!

answer your question, dumb*****?

[GDenman]

Don't sugarcoat it, David, just tell him how you feel! http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Pac Man]

JimmyPop,

Just say no to drugs..... http://www.officer.com/ubb/confused.gif

[POINTERCOP]

It is obvious by your post time Jimmy Pop that you are up waaaaaay past your bedtime. Be a good boy and turn off mommy's computer and GET YOUR *** TO BED.

[kd5hqd]

hahahaah, I love you guys. If I ever need a laugh, I can just come here http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Hey Jimmy, if you're out there, come by my house sometime. I think my dog holds tutoring sessions in sentence construction on saturdays. You should give her a call. Oh, by the way, I personally think all cop killers, after conviction of course http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif, should go straight to the table, chair, whatever... None of that red tape, "let's give him an appeal." Why in the hell should a cop killer even get the chance to waste a magistrate's time with last-ditch efforts in being granted clemency? Tell me, are you writing this from your prison cell? http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
(sorry everyone, I know he won't see this but I just couldn't let this by without writing my 4 cents http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif)

Kyle

[This message has been edited by kd5hqd (edited 11-28-2000).]

[H8Criminals]

I'm sure if my dept. hasn't had a run-in with good 'ole Jimmypop yet, we will eventually. It seems most of SF State ends up at the beach during the year at one time or another ... and if I recognize his name at a contact ... won't he be surprised when I refer to him as Jimmypop instead of Michael ...

[Monty Ealerman]

JimmyPop:

Interpreting your question as "Should death row inmates be afforded the right to free speech?":

There is something called "attainder" that occurs when a person is sentenced to death. In the United States, attainder is not complete, in that the person is still afforded some of his most basic rights. For example, death row inmates cannot be sold into servitude to other inmates while they are awaiting execution of sentence. Less basic rights, such as the right to sue in court, other than for appeals of the death sentence or the conviction that led to it, are forfeited.

The constitutional rights specified in the Bill of Rights are largely inapplicable in prison, although still technically protected. There is, for example, no practical right to not be searched; however, "unreasonable" searches are still prohibited. Almost any search that takes place in prison is regarded under law as reasonable, but that would not include putting someone into surgery to find out whether he had swallowed something.

The right to free speech is generally still allowed even on death row; however, the state has no obligation to provide any special venue for it. There are fairly generous provisions for it as is. A "well behaved" death row inmate is generally allowed visits, phone calls, etc., and he may speak as he wishes during them.

As for the particular individual you mentioned, there is activism about him, and some persons contend, incorrectly in my opinion, that he was wrongly convicted. I think that absolutely zero consideration should be given to the activism. I don't think we should allow reporters to talk to him, except as would be allowed to any death row inmate, even if the public is persuaded by the activism that it would interesting to hear what he has to say. He should get no more freedom of expression than any other death row inmate.

John from Maryland:

I appreciate the humor of what you said about persons released on PC issues, but I don't think they should be lumped together with those released due to DNA evidence that establishes their innocence of the crime for which they were convicted.

Some persons are falsely convicted, and now that DNA can be reliably tested by PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) amplification and gel electrophoresis, it would be murderously wrong to carry out a death sentence when the DNA evidence shows that the convicted person was not the perpetrator.

Regards,

Monty

[David Mudd]

Well...it's nice to see that we can still rely on Monty!! http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif