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94cvlx
05-19-2010, 12:39 PM
The agency I used to work for would not allow Male Officers to work Female housing units and thus creating much more OT availability for Females over males. Females are allowed to work male units however.

DOCSatTheGunk
05-19-2010, 02:24 PM
nobody brought that to the unions attention? no one faught that?

D.T.O.M
05-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Uh no........... unfair work advantages for women over men. My former department would have had the union all over that.

ComicGuy
05-19-2010, 04:08 PM
I'm fairly certain that your agencies polity is a violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws.

Iowa #1603
05-19-2010, 05:11 PM
In Iowa a Correctional Officer is a Correctional Officer. (that is a period)

There are certain individual posts that are restricted to same sex situations.
For example----All inmates are strip searched prior to and after visitation. The dress out officer is a restricted post and thus only same sex officers may bid that post.
Transport positions where a bathroom break may be a possibility require at least one same sex officer to be on the trip.

In Iowa opposite sex officers can supervise showering and can pat search inmates as an everyday occurrence. They can not strip search except in case of an emergency.

The court case that governs this area is actually out of Iowa -------and out of my institution.
http://openjurist.org/612/f2d/1079

ComicGuy
05-20-2010, 03:38 PM
The court case that governs this area is actually out of Iowa -------and out of my institution.
http://openjurist.org/612/f2d/1079
Booya...its good to be right. :p

freebird451
05-20-2010, 06:02 PM
seeing the kind of women that come through my jail... i dont WANT to work a female unit

Iowa #1603
05-20-2010, 07:24 PM
Booya...its good to be right. :p

I know and worked with her and her husband.

I was working at the institution at the time she filed the suit..............I left and came back later. She had went on to greener pastures but her husband retired as a Captain.



I must add that Iowa JAIL rules state that if there is a female in the jail, you MUST have a female staff member on duty. The same is not true for males-------------an all female jail staff on a shift would be legal if you had male inmates.---go figure

scotty_scs
05-20-2010, 11:34 PM
It’s the same for ADC Arkansas as Iowa #1603 stated it was for Iowa.
Years ago Arkansas paid out the ***** for denying females form working in a male unit thus males can work with females.

If your former department would read some DOJ surveys they would find you’ll have more PREA issues with female staff in male facilities than male in female facilities.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1149

PS. Are brothers in blue from the West Memphis Arkansas PD lost two Officer Bill Evans and Officer Brandon Pandert

94cvlx
05-25-2010, 08:26 AM
The union there is worthless. I am trying to get my previous co-workers to take action although the current administration is so manipulative and moral is so poor there no one wants to be the one to raise the stink.

landrierose
05-26-2010, 03:04 AM
At our facility they don't assign men to the women floors but if a male needs to relieve one of us they can or if they need to escort a female they can... We don't have any written rules that men can't work female housing units they just don't do it.... And on the flip side on this shift they don't let the women work rotational male housing units. But we do shakedowns in them and relieve once in awhile in them... On the other shifts its different the have females working the rotational housing units just not very often.....

MI_CO
05-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Here in MI we have female prisons. Males are not allowed to work in housing units in female prisons, but female Officers are allowed to work in housing units in male prisons. I guess they used to be able to let males work in female housing units but they had a huge CSC lawsuit brought against a bunch of male Officers and the DOC lost huge, so now they dont let them work female housing units. From the sounds of it I would not want to work at a female prison from what I've herd people say that have worked thier. But just like every other prison we have same sex assignments. Female Officers can pat down males inmates but Male Officers can not pat down female inmates.

redstoy
05-26-2010, 11:57 AM
i understand the strip frisk posts not going to opposite sex members but i fail to see how in this day and age either males or females can be restricted from a posting other than that without running afoul of anti discrimination and labor relations laws. i'm guessing that in MI they must have had a incident or two+ where male co's were walked out for relations w female inmates but that is a vioolation of the law and should be treated as such but to deny a entire class of posting to male officers sure sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

sevkln7of9
05-27-2010, 10:29 PM
We only have one officer on duty at a time so we have to detail the female tank. We only allow the males to go to work crew, the females only work the kitchen. We'll do what we have to if there is an exigent circumstance.

Gin
06-18-2010, 02:01 AM
In MO males can work at the female prisons and females work at the male prisons. Just can't do cross-gender strip searches. Also have to use the back of our hands on cross-gender pat searches.

GWahl
06-28-2010, 08:13 PM
In MO males can work at the female prisons and females work at the male prisons. Just can't do cross-gender strip searches. Also have to use the back of our hands on cross-gender pat searches.

Same here.