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superman152
10-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I applied and received a Tentative offer for the DLA PD in CA back in Dec. I was finally referred for security clearance in June and I am still in the background process, I can not get any direct contact with investigators and DLA HR can only tell me the investigation is still in progress. Anyone have any advise or know if this is the normal practice

orlandofed5-0
10-06-2009, 04:59 PM
I applied and received a Tentative offer for the DLA PD in CA back in Dec. I was finally referred for security clearance in June and I am still in the background process, I can not get any direct contact with investigators and DLA HR can only tell me the investigation is still in progress. Anyone have any advise or know if this is the normal practice

Have you ever had a clearance granted previously? Somethings to think about, DoD to an extent does their own clearances. I have one and am now being reinvestigated by DLA. But it can take up to several months for them to grant you a clearance.

http://www.opm.gov/extra/investigate/security-clearance.asp

DACP
10-06-2009, 06:25 PM
If Investigative services is doing the investigation, and unless something has changed, thay have an over 2 year back log.

superman152
10-06-2009, 06:33 PM
No i dont, I came from a civilian Police Dept. A two year backlog, how does anyone get hired. geez haha



Have you ever had a clearance granted previously? Somethings to think about, DoD to an extent does their own clearances. I have one and am now being reinvestigated by DLA. But it can take up to several months for them to grant you a clearance.

http://www.opm.gov/extra/investigate/security-clearance.asp

ccthompsfs
10-06-2009, 07:00 PM
I had to do another one this year and it took a couple of months. However from what I understand they have 30 days to complete one. I could be wrong though since I did the paperwork bac in jan and feb and it was finished in Jun.

DACP
10-06-2009, 09:01 PM
No i dont, I came from a civilian Police Dept. A two year backlog, how does anyone get hired. geez haha

They grant you an interm.

orlandofed5-0
10-06-2009, 09:12 PM
No i dont, I came from a civilian Police Dept. A two year backlog, how does anyone get hired. geez haha

As DACP stated, your supposed to be granted an interim clearance until they can do your background. All DLA police jobs require a non critical sensitive secret clearance.

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CityTrashman
10-06-2009, 11:31 PM
As DACP stated, your supposed to be granted an interim clearance until they can do your background. All DLA police jobs require a non critical sensitive secret clearance.

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Not all DLA Police are Non-critical sensitive secret. DLA Police in New Cumberland must have Secret Clearance now. Jan of 09 this started.

smk99
10-06-2009, 11:45 PM
As they said, you will revive an interim clearance. Your paperwork will be reviewed and flagged for any clear issues. After that, depending on the need you will be moved in to a priority list. For most agencies your clearance is low priority, putting it in the 1 year completion range. Some agencies in the DOD wont even give you the clearance, they will just give you access to the clearance. This means that they reviewed your file, see that you could get a clearance if needed, but don't give you the clearance. This policy is crap IMO, but is becoming more often used in the Federal Service given the push to have everyone get clearances at the same time that the funding has been cut to perform the checks.

MIDeputy
10-06-2009, 11:53 PM
If Investigative services is doing the investigation, and unless something has changed, thay have an over 2 year back log.

I just talked with an OPM Background Investigator, and according to him the "Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA)" requires 90% of all initial security clearance determinations be completed in an average of 60 days or less, allowing 40 days for the investigation phase and 20 days for the adjudication process, to the extent practical. However, that's not to say that the background won't take longer but they are working diligently in order to cut down the backlog and wait time.

Top-Secret clearances will naturally take longer in order to adjudicate as you are typically required to go back 10 years in residence and employment history. However, for a secret clearance those can be adjudicated fairly quickly with a simple National Agency Records check and then you can be issued an interim clearance until the rest of the follow-up is completed.

orlandofed5-0
10-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Not all DLA Police are Non-critical sensitive secret. DLA Police in New Cumberland must have Secret Clearance now. Jan of 09 this started.

Same thing... Secret and Non critical sensitive secret are pretty much the same in terms of government backgrounds. Its an NACI, residency and credit check.

Here is a copy of your guys last opening.

http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=82562511&TabNum=6


CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT:

WORK SCHEDULE: Full-Time
OVERTIME: Occasional
TRAVEL: Occasional
DURATION: Under 25%
PRE-EMPLOYMENT PHYSICAL: Yes
(You must successfully pass a physical exam for this position. If you decline to have a physical examination, it will be considered a declination for employment .)
DRUG TESTING: Yes
(This is a Drug Testing Designated Position (TDP). All applicants tentatively selected for this position will be required to submit to urinalysis to screen for illegal drug use prior to employment in the position, and periodically thereafter. If you decline to have a drug test, it will be considered a declination for employment .)
SECURITY REQUIREMENTS: Yes, Non-Critical Sensitive
This position has been designated “mission critical” to this organization. It is critical that this position be filled as soon as possible. This position is designated as Non-Critical Sensitive/Secret. If you are unable to obtain this level of position sensitivity and/or clearance (as a result of undisclosed background issues), within a reasonable period of time (as defined by DHRC-N Director in conjunction with Management and DLA Security), the employment offer may be withdrawn based on mission impact. In addition, incumbent is subject to periodic re-investigation to maintain security eligibility in accordance with DoD 5200.2-R.


Its pretty sad but I did not get my first clearance interview until 3 years after I hired into the government.

CityTrashman
10-07-2009, 01:39 AM
Same thing... Secret and Non critical sensitive secret are pretty much the same in terms of government backgrounds. Its an NACI, residency and credit check.

Here is a copy of your guys last opening.

http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=82562511&TabNum=6




Its pretty sad but I did not get my first clearance interview until 3 years after I hired into the government.



You should know to never believe what the JOA says about the job, I'm telling you it's Secret now... Non critical sensitive has been removed we have 20 or more guys waiting for clearance to start.

superman152
10-07-2009, 02:11 AM
ok, well who should I call as it is coming up on 120 days double the average time for "normal" processing.

CityTrashman
10-07-2009, 03:10 PM
ok, well who should I call as it is coming up on 120 days double the average time for "normal" processing.


Call the Chief of Police there. Ask him what's up...

superman152
10-08-2009, 05:02 PM
I called the chief and he advised people for with no federal service it has been taking from 7 mos to a year and 3 to 5 for guys with previous service. i dont know how they keep up. But i guess ill just wait. For info there is an opening on USAJOBS for 3 vacancies there now

DACP
10-08-2009, 05:30 PM
I just talked with an OPM Background Investigator, and according to him the "Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA)" requires 90% of all initial security clearance determinations be completed in an average of 60 days or less, allowing 40 days for the investigation phase and 20 days for the adjudication process, to the extent practical. However, that's not to say that the background won't take longer but they are working diligently in order to cut down the backlog and wait time.

Top-Secret clearances will naturally take longer in order to adjudicate as you are typically required to go back 10 years in residence and employment history. However, for a secret clearance those can be adjudicated fairly quickly with a simple National Agency Records check and then you can be issued an interim clearance until the rest of the follow-up is completed.

60 days from when it hit's whos desk? is it 60 days from when the agency gets it, 60 days from when the investigator gets it, 60 days from when he passes it to the next guy, etc. etc.

Bearcat357
10-08-2009, 06:24 PM
It took someone over a year to update my Secret when I first started working for the USG in 05..... I was given an interim based on a prior clearance, NCIC Check, and Credit Check.

It was a good 2 years before anyone came to chat with me about my TS..... and I was running around with a TS/SCI-Interim by then.....

orlandofed5-0
10-08-2009, 09:39 PM
I applied and received a Tentative offer for the DLA PD in CA back in Dec. I was finally referred for security clearance in June and I am still in the background process, I can not get any direct contact with investigators and DLA HR can only tell me the investigation is still in progress. Anyone have any advise or know if this is the normal practice

Well they as of today posted a new job announcement for 3 officers.

kc12
10-09-2009, 07:42 AM
60 days from when it hit's whos desk? is it 60 days from when the agency gets it, 60 days from when the investigator gets it, 60 days from when he passes it to the next guy, etc. etc.

The 60 day clock starts when the investigation is farmed out to the field. The investigator has 30 days to complete everything they need to do. 10 days are used for processing at the field office and initial quality control review. Then it is forwarded to the adjudicator where they have 20 days to review the case and take a decision.

For cases that don't require an interview, everything is a database check and the investigation is done relatively quickly. If an interview is required your case will sit in a drawer until an office in the field has an opening to work the case. "Relatively quick" is just that relative. When compared to SSBI/SCI/Yankee White they are quick. When compared to the amount of time it takes to check your mail they are very slow. Every BI must have the records check completed, so your file will wait in line with every other file being completed.

navy_cop
10-10-2009, 02:34 AM
I applied and received a Tentative offer for the DLA PD in CA back in Dec. I was finally referred for security clearance in June and I am still in the background process, I can not get any direct contact with investigators and DLA HR can only tell me the investigation is still in progress. Anyone have any advise or know if this is the normal practice

it's ok I've been waiting for a year now for DLA Police in CA, I had to resubmit the sf-86 because it changed from a sf-86p to sf-86......I've had job offers and as of now passed everything including getting the interm clearance for another dod police position since waiting. It's like the saying goes hurry up and wait.

superman152
10-10-2009, 02:40 AM
well bro, ill keep you abreast of any changes, maybe we will meet if they ever get rolling

navy_cop
10-10-2009, 02:44 AM
well bro, ill keep you abreast of any changes, maybe we will meet if they ever get rolling

same here, I'll let you know if I hear anything and hopefully

kc12
10-10-2009, 07:34 AM
it's ok I've been waiting for a year now for DLA Police in CA, I had to resubmit the sf-86 because it changed from a sf-86p to sf-86......I've had job offers and as of now passed everything including getting the interm clearance for another dod police position since waiting. It's like the saying goes hurry up and wait.

Unless you already have a federal job, I'd take whatever federal position came along, until the dream job pops up. Federal time is time toward retirement.

upstart
10-21-2009, 12:42 AM
i will say this as a contract investigator who does clearance investigations for OPM
my time line is as follows
OPM Farms the case to the contractor company, company assigns a case number and forwards the case info to the investigator (3-5 days)
i (the investigator) receive the case and usually have 14 days before it is due to the reviewer
(sometimes i get a case and an email asking if it can be done within 48 hrs)
the reviewer has 72 hrs to either push it back to me for follow up or pass it to OPM.

that said i usually get about "6 - 12 months ago" when i ask how long ago the SF86 was submitted initially. what happens between the SSO or S2 shop and OPM i have no idea.

superman152
10-21-2009, 02:24 AM
Help me understand. If someone has a security clearance from another federal agency, they will be re-investigated or required to get a new clearance before they can start work with the new agency. I.E- Customs and Border Protection Officer with clearance wants to work for a DoD Police Agency which requires the same clearance level. can the candidate not start till a new clearance or interim clearance is granted or does the clearance automatically transfer and is accepted?

kc12
10-21-2009, 07:36 AM
Help me understand. If someone has a security clearance from another federal agency, they will be re-investigated or required to get a new clearance before they can start work with the new agency. I.E- Customs and Border Protection Officer with clearance wants to work for a DoD Police Agency which requires the same clearance level. can the candidate not start till a new clearance or interim clearance is granted or does the clearance automatically transfer and is accepted?

It depends. In a perfect world the clearance would simply transfer, but this is far from a perfect world. If you were applying for say Border Patrol and had a clearance from CBP OFO then it would simply transfer. If you had one from CBP OFO and wanted to transfer to DOD police it can take longer for the BI to transfer as it would to complete a new one. In those cases normally it is faster to just have a new one done. Many people can receive an interim clearance that can be granted much faster than ordering the old investigation.

Another thing that has to be looked at. If say you have a TS from working as an intel specialist for the DOD and you apply for Border Patrol. Even though both are SSBI investigations the Border Patrol has more questions because it is a LE agency that wouldn't be covered by the DOD investigation.

orlandofed5-0
10-22-2009, 02:39 PM
Help me understand. If someone has a security clearance from another federal agency, they will be re-investigated or required to get a new clearance before they can start work with the new agency. I.E- Customs and Border Protection Officer with clearance wants to work for a DoD Police Agency which requires the same clearance level. can the candidate not start till a new clearance or interim clearance is granted or does the clearance automatically transfer and is accepted?

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superman152
12-08-2009, 12:55 PM
Still waiting for my clearance, received a request for more info a few weeks back about federal debt. Does that mean they are finished and after the adjudication of my decision about tax payments they will grant me the clearance? or should i not read too much into it. Any insight?