Hooray! New training forum!!!

[Sparky]

This is going to be great!!

Any other trainers out there??

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-Sparky

[Niteshift]

You betcha.......I tend to teach more "fun" stuff.....radar, laser, interdiction, mobile video, traffic-related stuff. Not too much into the report-writing kind of subject matter.

I'm considering trying to do it as more of a side business now, but I still haven't convinced myself that I'll make enough money to make it worthwhile.

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Niteshift-
Perseverate In Pugna

[Chopshopcop]

I guess that you could count me in.

I've given instruction in basic auto theft investigation, vehicle ID and VIN switch recognition to 5 regional in-service classes and one recruit class this year. One more in-service to go in Dec. for this year.

The topics include report-writing, auto theft law, and charging guidelines for the academic portion and hands-on practicums for the other.

I'm laying the groundwork for life after THE JOB, I already know that I'll have to continue working in some capacity after retirement. Given my chosen field, it would probably be as an NICB field agent or an insurance SIU.

[Sparky]

Groovy!

I know both you guys are pretty close to me. Maybe we can get together and do some stuff sometime.

I tend to teach on mostly investigative typestuff - no firearms, driving, def tactics or anything.

I've been thinking about doing some side stuff for the extra money and simply because I really enjoy it.

I'd really like to do a full two-day course on Cognitive Interview, but thought that I should start out with just a couple of one-day courses to offer on a Saturday so that more officers could go. That would also keep it cheap so that more officers could afford it.

Maybe a day on Death Notifications, Courtroom Testimony, or Report Writing. Small skill set sort of stuff.

I've been working on a five day course on Rape Investigation for awhile...but I keep changing my lesson plan.

If you guys (or anyone else for that matter) has any ideas on training needs...I'd love to hear them!!!

http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif


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-Sparky

[Niteshift]

Between the three of us........ready to go into business?

Sparky: Have you take the interview classes at RCTA? If you have, any opinions?

Death notification......never actually seen a class offered on it. We're just expected to know what to do, esp. us sgts. I just got a chaplain program started, mainly to take that burden off of us.

A suggestion for you Sparky: FDLE has a standardized cirriculum for their sex crimes investigation course. It's a 40 hour one. Might give you something to compare with. Same with courtroom testimony and report writing. I'm sure they'd give you a free copy. If not, I can hook one.

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Perseverate In Pugna

[Sparky]

Scott Hartley teaches the Interview and Interrogation classes at RCTA. I have been to both the basic and advanced course and thought they were excellent. Scott is a GREAT instructor and does alot to add life to a pretty dry subject. He is a great guy and helped me out on a case once in the middle of the night! He's aces in my book!

Most of it is based on the Reid Technique and Kenesics as well as a little Scientific Content Analysis. But Scott has done alot of his own research as well and also has some pretty good experience in his own right. He takes his own stuff and has applied his own knowledge and experience to make it his own. His courses are great and I consider them a must for any investigator that can take advantage of the opportunity. You can read up on the stuff only so much. A good course really brings it to life for the student.

RCTA is such a great resource as most of these courses are booked years in advance and cost (sometimes) close to two thousand dollars plus travel and hotel.

RCTA recently began offering a course strictly on Statement Analysis. I have supposedly been on the waiting list for over a year, but due to some scheduling problems with the instructors, they have gotten backlogged by over a year.

Cognitive Interview is for witnesses and victims and touches on some of the same communication principles, but Scott's class and other Interrogation courses are purely oriented for detecting deception in suspects and in gaining a confession from them.

As to FDLE course...man if you can snag me a copy of that...I will surely owe you a good bagel! http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif I have worked with some of those FDLE guys and even recently thought about applying over there. (would be cut in pay) Great department! I am sure their training would be first rate.

I have been kicking around the same idea with some of the folks at the Training Acadmey here. They want to do the same thing with a standardized ciricuulum and a stage process...y'know, like an Investigator Level I course, a Level II course, etc. Or maybe a Homicide course, rape course, etc...the courses would be Board Certified. That way it would become a sort of informal professional credential. Back burner project all the way around. Not a formal project by the state or anything.

As far as starting a business... http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif I'm already working on some classes. I will definately let you know about what I am ready to do training on...and you guys can do likewise. Once we have a few classes ready to go, we could definately get together to offer some stuff!!

I'm really hoping that we get some more guys in here to share what they have. This would be a great place for trainers from all over to network and stay in touch.


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-Sparky

[Niteshift]

Don't get too excited. FDLE controls the standards and training commission. The course I'm talking about is the one they teach state-wide for advanced training for LEO's. If you still want it, I'll try to hook one.

I ask about the RCTA I&I course because I wanted to send a couple of guys to it. I've taken Reid and Wicklander Zulawski. Working what I do now, I am involved more in roadside interview and less with setting up a room for it, etc.

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Perseverate In Pugna

[JKT]

Sparky, if you have a chance, check out these links. TIPPS puts on a great Community Policing course and has other courses available. The other link is to the distance education site for the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement (might be something useful there).
http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/tipps/index.html
http://isadore.tsl.state.tx.us/tx/TCLEOSE/distedu.html

(the TCLEOSE link may be down temporarily)

I am a Firearms Instructor, as well as teaching Communications, Photography and whatever else they assign me to. If I can be of any assistance, let me know.


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Jack

[Sparky]

Cool :cool: !! Thanks for the links JKT.
The TIPPS site was good. Sounds like a good program and a good resource for LE and the commuity.

We have a good community college inthis area that has a satelite campus nearby. They also have a partnership with one of the major state universities and teach to the state univ's requirments and the univ's profs also teach at the campus some as well. It is a very god program. Adult learners can get their first two years in on a night schedule and have the benefit of good proffessors and guaranteed transferable credit.

All in all it is a good program and they have a good CJ school, but nothing like the TIPPS. I'd love to see them offer LE courses. Maybe a citizens police academy!!

I definately have some good ideas. Maybe I will meet with them to discuss it. I guess it can't hurt, huh?

[Sparky]

Niteshift:

I teach basic vic and wit interview at the basic academy sometimes. I am workiing on a longer course targeted for patrol.

So far, the course would include vic and wit interview with practicals designed for patrol. I also wanted to do a little on detecting deception and some basic interrogation also for the patrol level. The two subjects sort of naturally bleed into one another, and I was thinking along the lines of stuff that patrol could use, and that would be a natural progression to what investigators need and use.

What kind of stuff were you looking at for your guys?? My thinking has been that there is a gap between the roadside interview and the specialized stuff that investigtors use.

What are your thoughts??

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-Sparky