View Full Version : Barry's Most Outragious Lie
1042 Trooper
09-20-2009, 12:24 PM
Which lie has been the most frustrating to you?
madchiken
09-20-2009, 12:38 PM
Its not the lies, but the truth that is frustrating! 1143 days to go...
kckpd756
09-20-2009, 12:55 PM
It was kind of tought to choose. I was looking for the platform he ran upon which stated he would govern from the center.
Southflaguy
09-20-2009, 01:06 PM
Hmmm...For me it's what he said about unemployment and how it will get real bad if the stimulus package didn't go through...Well, it went through and unemployment is 10.5 in my part of the world...
I'm not to worried about the other stuff, people are not going to go for it anyways...
The issues on the poll don't bother me much...
yellowreef
09-20-2009, 01:08 PM
Not even gonna bother quoting sources, huh?
livestrong6
09-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Not even gonna bother quoting sources, huh?
All the supposed lies is speculation coming from the far right media outlets, or speculation from nut job right wing conservatives that are just trying to spread fear. All the links will lead you to right wing conservative web sites that are just spewing lies of there own to discredit the president as much as possible. The same thing the Far left did with Bush.
SkepticAlways
09-20-2009, 02:47 PM
Polticians lie!? :eek::rolleyes:
Bearcat357
09-20-2009, 03:51 PM
Not even gonna bother quoting sources, huh?
Why should he....?? Barry and his crew spouted off all that nonsense when he was running.....
Hell, CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC even carried it.....not just Fox.......
Bearcat357
09-20-2009, 03:55 PM
All the supposed lies is speculation coming from the far right media outlets, or speculation from nut job right wing conservatives that are just trying to spread fear. All the links will lead you to right wing conservative web sites that are just spewing lies of there own to discredit the president as much as possible. The same thing the Far left did with Bush.
Give it up...
He and his posse' spout all that stuff of during the campaign....and no one has called him out on it thus far....other than the Right....and when we do so.....you call us racists.... :rolleyes:
SRT936
09-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Let's start at the top:
No lobbyists in the Obama White House
One year from now, we have the chance to tell all those corporate lobbyists that the days of them setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more to take on lobbyists than any other candidate in this race - and I've won. I don't take a dime of their money, and when I am President, they won't find a job in my White House. Because real change isn't another four years of defending lobbyists who don't represent real Americans - it's standing with working Americans who have seen their jobs disappear and their wages decline and their hope for the future slip further and further away. That's the change we can offer in 2008. http://www.barackobama.com/2007/11/03/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_30.php
A little over a year later, and we get Eric Holder as Attorney General.
The records show that partners at Covington & Burling LLP had given the Obama campaign more than $25,000 in contributions last year, including $10,650 since October.
Covington & Burling lawyer Eric Holder, a former top deputy in the Justice Department and U.S. attorney for the District, gave $4,600 to Mr. Obama. An adviser for the campaign, he was registered as a lobbyist in 2003 but does not currently lobby, records show. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/feb/22/obama-takes-funds-from-lobby-partners/
Or does the Washington Times count as a conservative blog.... :rolleyes:
SRT936
09-20-2009, 05:17 PM
Since I came across this one, I'll skip down the list and address it now:
Obama does not support a single-payer system.
On July 1, 2009, he said, in opposition to single-payers sytems:
Here's the problem, is that the way our health care system evolved in the United States, it evolved based on employers providing health insurance to their employees through private insurers. And so that's still the way that the vast majority of you get your insurance. And for us to transition completely from an employer-based system of private insurance to a single-payer system could be hugely disruptive. And my attitude has been that we should be able to find a way to create a uniquely American solution to this problem that controls costs but preserves the innovation that is introduced in part with a free market system. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-the-President-in-an-Online-Town-Hall-on-Health-Care-Reform/
However, throughout the campaign, he talked of preferring a single-payer system:
Obama said, "Here's the bottom line. If I were designing a system from scratch I would probably set up a single-payer system...But we're not designing a system from scratch...And when we had a healthcare forum before I set up my healthcare plan here in Iowa there was a lot of resistance to a single-payer system. So what I believe is we should set up a series of choices....Over time it may be that we end up transitioning to such a system. For now, I just want to make sure every American is covered...I don't want to wait for that perfect system...The one thing you should ask about the candidates though is who's gonna have the capacity to actually deliver on the change?...I believe I've got a better capacity to break the gridlock and attract both Independents and Republicans to work together." http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/05/fact_check_obama_consistent_in.php
livestrong6
09-20-2009, 06:27 PM
Give it up...
He and his posse' spout all that stuff of during the campaign....and no one has called him out on it thus far....other than the Right....and when we do so.....you call us racists.... :rolleyes:
Like always show some proof that makes your opinion fact. Then Maybe, I'll even consider what you write.
livestrong6
09-20-2009, 06:33 PM
Do we have to bring up Dick cheney's involvement with Halliburton, and the millions in US contracts given to them and subsidiaries.
SRT936
09-20-2009, 06:39 PM
And we march on:
That he was against decriminalizing marijuana.
"I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," Mr. Obama told an audience during a debate at Northwestern University in 2004. http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2008/jan/31/barack_obama_comes_out_in_favor_
Of course, that was before his run for the White House and his need to appease the middle. What's his stance now?
“The answer is, no, I don't think that is a good strategy to grow our economy,” the president said. His answer prompted applause from the audience.
(White House press secretary Robert Gibbs later clarified Mr. Obama's position: "The president opposes the legalization of marijuana…he does not think that’s the right plan for America.”
But then again, I suppose StoptheDrugWar.org and CBS News are also bastions of the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy.....
luvmylabs
09-20-2009, 06:54 PM
I'm disgusted by every one of his many lies.
I need an all of the above option in order to vote.
-Erik-
09-20-2009, 07:03 PM
That there were WMDs in Iraq (1 vote)
Oh wait......Polticians lie!? :eek::rolleyes:Pretty much the most true post in this thread.
SRT936
09-20-2009, 07:11 PM
This is the one that really gets me...
That his birth was the result of the Selma Civil Rights March
This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php
Small problem... Barack Obama Sr came to Hawaii in 1960, and Junior was born on August 4, 1961. The Selma March didn't happen until March 7, 1965. In the above speech, Obama spends quite awhile suggesting that the Selma March, and the Birmingham Campaign (1963-64) had paved the way for his father to come to the US in the first place.
SRT936
09-20-2009, 07:13 PM
Oh wait......Pretty much the most true post in this thread.
Considering that I've been using Barack Obama's own words to illustrate these points, you may have a point. Not much truth in those quotes I've been putting up.... ;)
livestrong6
09-20-2009, 10:17 PM
here is just a dash of lies from former president Bush:
•On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff from?' "
•In the closing days of September 2002, with a congressional vote fast approaching on authorizing the use of military force in Iraq, Bush told the nation in his weekly radio address: "The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given. . . . This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one within a year." A few days later, similar findings were also included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction — an analysis that hadn't been done in years, as the intelligence community had deemed it unnecessary and the White House hadn't requested it.
•In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of "compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."
•On May 29, 2003, in an interview with Polish TV, President Bush declared: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories." But as journalist Bob Woodward reported in State of Denial, days earlier a team of civilian experts dispatched to examine the two mobile labs found in Iraq had concluded in a field report that the labs were not for biological weapons. The team's final report, completed the following month, concluded that the labs had probably been used to manufacture hydrogen for weather balloons.
•On January 28, 2003, in his annual State of the Union address, Bush asserted: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." Two weeks earlier, an analyst with the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research sent an email to colleagues in the intelligence community laying out why he believed the uranium-purchase agreement "probably is a hoax."
•On February 5, 2003, in an address to the United Nations Security Council, Powell said: "What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence. I will cite some examples, and these are from human sources." As it turned out, however, two of the main human sources to which Powell referred had provided false information. One was an Iraqi con artist, code-named "Curveball," whom American intelligence officials were dubious about and in fact had never even spoken to. The other was an Al Qaeda detainee, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had reportedly been sent to Eqypt by the CIA and tortured and who later recanted the information he had provided. Libi told the CIA in January 2004 that he had "decided he would fabricate any information interrogators wanted in order to gain better treatment and avoid being handed over to [a foreign government]."
The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the eve of the invasion.
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=Centre+for+Public+Integrity&page=1&qsrc=2106&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicintegrity.org%2F
Billions of dollars to have a war that we didn't even need to start. I wonder If the Iraq war could of paid for health care reform!
E3CSHARP
09-20-2009, 10:19 PM
Oh, there are dozens more Bush mafia related lies......
livestrong6
09-20-2009, 10:23 PM
Oh, there are dozens more Bush mafia related lies......
I would have to do about 20-30 posts to fill the amount of crap bush was shoveling.
ateamer
09-21-2009, 12:05 AM
His worst lie was when he said he loves America.
tony.o
09-21-2009, 12:59 AM
here is just a dash of lies from former president Bush:
•On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff from?' "
•In the closing days of September 2002, with a congressional vote fast approaching on authorizing the use of military force in Iraq, Bush told the nation in his weekly radio address: "The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given. . . . This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one within a year." A few days later, similar findings were also included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction — an analysis that hadn't been done in years, as the intelligence community had deemed it unnecessary and the White House hadn't requested it.
•In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of "compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."
•On May 29, 2003, in an interview with Polish TV, President Bush declared: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories." But as journalist Bob Woodward reported in State of Denial, days earlier a team of civilian experts dispatched to examine the two mobile labs found in Iraq had concluded in a field report that the labs were not for biological weapons. The team's final report, completed the following month, concluded that the labs had probably been used to manufacture hydrogen for weather balloons.
•On January 28, 2003, in his annual State of the Union address, Bush asserted: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." Two weeks earlier, an analyst with the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research sent an email to colleagues in the intelligence community laying out why he believed the uranium-purchase agreement "probably is a hoax."
•On February 5, 2003, in an address to the United Nations Security Council, Powell said: "What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence. I will cite some examples, and these are from human sources." As it turned out, however, two of the main human sources to which Powell referred had provided false information. One was an Iraqi con artist, code-named "Curveball," whom American intelligence officials were dubious about and in fact had never even spoken to. The other was an Al Qaeda detainee, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had reportedly been sent to Eqypt by the CIA and tortured and who later recanted the information he had provided. Libi told the CIA in January 2004 that he had "decided he would fabricate any information interrogators wanted in order to gain better treatment and avoid being handed over to [a foreign government]."
The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the eve of the invasion.
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=Centre+for+Public+Integrity&page=1&qsrc=2106&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicintegrity.org%2F
Billions of dollars to have a war that we didn't even need to start. I wonder If the Iraq war could of paid for health care reform!
Old news. Been talked about time after time. Those aren't lies. Many Nations, who had no desire to go to war, came up with the same information. Of course, you know that.
Is that all you got, cause it ain't gonna fly. You must cannot name any real lies.
tony.o
09-21-2009, 01:01 AM
I would have to do about 20-30 posts to fill the amount of crap bush was shoveling.
Just come up with one real one.
While your doing that, why not address the lobbyists in Obamas administration or are you such a dishonest coward you won't even acknowledge it.
That Guy
09-21-2009, 01:18 AM
Hmmm...For me it's what he said about unemployment and how it will get real bad if the stimulus package didn't go through...Well, it went through and unemployment is 10.5 in my part of the world...
I'm not to worried about the other stuff, people are not going to go for it anyways...
The issues on the poll don't bother me much...
It hasn't even been a year yet! It took years for it to crash and it will take time to get it back. There Treasury just made a profit from the interest of the bank loans...
TGY
Bearcat357
09-21-2009, 02:16 AM
Funny how all the Dims want to go back to Bush....
HEY!!!! GUESS WHAT????
BUSH IS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Lord....stay the hell on topic.......It's Barry's Mess and lies.....not W's........that is the subject at hand. W. has nothing to do with the POTUS Office now.....
Jeezzz......
Do we have to bring up Dick cheney's involvement with Halliburton, and the millions in US contracts given to them and subsidiaries.
Is it possible for you to stick to the topic at hand? If you want to start going backwards, then I'm sure we can post a host of Clinton era transgressions.
People here are discussing what's going on now, in our country, to our country by people in our country, and all you want to do is talk about how some companies got contracts. Set aside your inane comparisons and comments and focus on the topic for little while. Do you think maybe you can do that?
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:08 AM
Old news. Been talked about time after time. Those aren't lies. Many Nations, who had no desire to go to war, came up with the same information. Of course, you know that.
Is that all you got, cause it ain't gonna fly. You must cannot name any real lies.
Funny thing is my lie's have FBI and CIA reports to back up the nonsense that president bush was feeding america. Nice try.
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:13 AM
Is it possible for you to stick to the topic at hand? If you want to start going backwards, then I'm sure we can post a host of Clinton era transgressions.
People here are discussing what's going on now, in our country, to our country by people in our country, and all you want to do is talk about how some companies got contracts. Set aside your inane comparisons and comments and focus on the topic for little while. Do you think maybe you can do that?
I am staying on topic. You can pull bits an pieces from any president and find lies or misrepresented information. However, The former president is the only one that started a war based on lies!
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:15 AM
Funny how all the Dims want to go back to Bush....
HEY!!!! GUESS WHAT????
BUSH IS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Lord....stay the hell on topic.......It's Barry's Mess and lies.....not W's........that is the subject at hand. W. has nothing to do with the POTUS Office now.....
Jeezzz......
True but, President Obama hasn't started a war on false information and lies!
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:18 AM
Old news. Been talked about time after time. Those aren't lies. Many Nations, who had no desire to go to war, came up with the same information. Of course, you know that.
Is that all you got, cause it ain't gonna fly. You must cannot name any real lies.
LOL, yeah if you believe that. I own some water in the gulf I would like to sell to you.
Bearcat357
09-21-2009, 03:50 AM
True but, President Obama hasn't started a war on false information and lies!
Been over this a million times.... What did W. lie about...?
Shall I (once again) post the list of US politicans (both Repub and Dem) that supported him to go into Iraq along with all the Foreign Gov's...??
Hell, Saddam admited he was lying about having WMDs to the FBI Agent that interviewed up after capture because he was worried about Iran.....
Dude...it's old....and it's real weak.....
Once again, STICK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND......OR CAN YOU...???? :rolleyes:
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:52 AM
Just come up with one real one.
While your doing that, why not address the lobbyists in Obamas administration or are you such a dishonest coward you won't even acknowledge it.
I have only seen two names that are linked. One a chief of staff and another worker. Not much at all.
However, you google Lobbyist in the bush administration and you get articles say 100's of lobbyist work for bush.
Published on Saturday, May 12, 2001 in the New York Times
GW Bush's America: Corporate Lobbyists In Control
Bush Picks Industry Insiders to Fill Environmental Posts
by Katharine Q. Seelye
WASHINGTON — President Bush has filled several senior environment-related jobs in his administration with pro-business advocates who have worked on behalf of various industries in battles with the federal government, largely during the Clinton years.
Mr. Bush has announced his intent to nominate a mining industry lobbyist as the No. 2 person at the Interior Department. He has chosen a lobbyist for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association to be the department's chief lawyer.
Ann-Marie Lynch
The drug-industry lobbyist who fought price controls joined the Health and Human Services Department and has helped drug companies avoid the limits.
Top aides in the Department of Health and Human Services provide analysis and advice to the president on key consumer issues, including prescription-drug policies. In doing so, they consider the needs of pharmaceutical companies seeking revenue for future research, and consumers struggling to afford increasingly costly medications.
In June 2001 Bush installed Ann- Marie Lynch, a lobbyist for the drug- company trade group Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, to help set those policies.
As a lobbyist, Lynch fought congressional attempts to cap prices for drugs. Price controls, she argued, would hamper medical innovation.
Thomas A. Scully represented the nation's for-profit hospitals as a lobbyist before being hired by the Bush administration in June 2001 to head the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.
Eight months after Scully arrived at the Medicare and Medicaid agency, it moved to settle final claims involving HCA Inc., a hospital chain that was the biggest member of Scully's former employer, the Federation of American Hospitals. HCA Inc. faced allegations it fraudulently overbilled the government for Medicare cases.
Under the terms agreed to in June 2002 by Scully's agency, HCA would have settled for $250 million. Medicare fraud cases typically are ironed out with Justice Department participation, but Scully agreed to those terms on his own, said John R. Phillips, an attorney who represented whistle-blowers in the case.
livestrong6
09-21-2009, 03:55 AM
Been over this a million times.... What did W. lie about...?
Shall I (once again) post the list of US politicans (both Repub and Dem) that supported him to go into Iraq along with all the Foreign Gov's...??
Hell, Saddam admited he was lying about having WMDs to the FBI Agent that interviewed up after capture because he was worried about Iran.....
Dude...it's old....and it's real weak.....
Once again, STICK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND......OR CAN YOU...???? :rolleyes:
I know I just making a point. It will be clear soon.
Bearcat357
09-21-2009, 03:56 AM
Do we have to bring up Dick cheney's involvement with Halliburton, and the millions in US contracts given to them and subsidiaries.
Are you just that ignorant....or are you just trying to argue because you have no arugement and feel left out of things...?? :rolleyes:
It's been discussed and proven on here Lord only knows how many time that the former VP SOLD all his stocks before he took office...... He had nothing to do with them money wise....
Geezz.....:rolleyes:
Bearcat357
09-21-2009, 03:58 AM
I know I just making a point. It will be clear soon.
Yeah....clear as mud....as usual in your case..... :rolleyes:
So, livestrong, are you saying that all of Obama's lies and indiscretions are justified because of the wrongs you believe Bush perpetrated? L.O. effin L. So far, the only point that you have proven is that you are a bitter person with no conviction.
dadyswat
09-21-2009, 06:50 AM
I've come to the conclusion that the Obama followers are a cult. Anytime someone says anything about Obama they have to fall back to what Bush did or said. They don't seem to realize that conservatives weren't happy with the way Bush got away from conservative values. It really sad that they can't be objective in their views.
ray8285
09-21-2009, 08:41 AM
Funny thing is my lie's have FBI and CIA reports to back up the nonsense that president bush was feeding america. Nice try.
If there are reports to support what GWB said then they aren't lies are they? There are also reports from the British, French, Germans, Israelis, et al: saying the same thing...they were WRONG, being wrong does not make you a liar, just misinformed.
tony.o
09-21-2009, 09:15 AM
Obama promised no lobbyists in the White House and he brings up Bush, who didn't make that promise.
I'm still waiting for you to give us one real Bush lie. Not asking much, just one.
nuthead
09-21-2009, 09:32 AM
I'm still waiting for you to give us one real Bush lie. Not asking much, just one.
Don't hold your breath.
SRT936
09-21-2009, 12:39 PM
The former president is the only one that started a war based on lies!
For the historically ignorant...
August 4, 1964- The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, used by President LBJ (you remember him, The Great Society?) to dramatically escalate US involvement in the Vietnam War. Turned out to be a false incident.
February 18, 1898- The USS Maine Incident, used by President McKinley to justify starting the Spanish-American War. Turns out the information that Spaniards had blown up the Maine was false.
Since both LBJ and McKinley relied on flawed intelligence to start (or escalate) their wars, they both must have been deliberately lying to the American people and sending young men off to die for a lie. Let's hold the standard you've set for Bush to all President's....
BigPat
09-21-2009, 01:38 PM
Obama promised no lobbyists in the White House and he brings up Bush, who didn't make that promise.
I'm still waiting for you to give us one real Bush lie. Not asking much, just one.
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush said after a Cabinet meeting. As evidence, he cited Iraqi intelligence officers' meeting with bin Laden in Sudan. "There's numerous contacts between the two," Bush said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50679-2004Jun17.html
For me, the most outrageous lie was that he supports the 2nd Amendment and our right to defend ourselves and ours.
But how did he prevent his REAL views and past anti-gun voting record from being exposed while on the campaign?
BY NOT TALKING ABOUT IT!
I still know gun-owners who think Barry supports them.
-Erik-
09-21-2009, 04:50 PM
I'll ask again
What politician doesn't lie based on audience?
Better yet
What politician doesn't lie period?
yellowreef
09-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Let's start at the top:
No lobbyists in the Obama White House
A little over a year later, and we get Eric Holder as Attorney General.
Or does the Washington Times count as a conservative blog.... :rolleyes:
Thanks for coming up with some of those. I knew for a fact that some of them were accurately represented, but not every single one and that's what my comment was about.
tony.o
09-21-2009, 06:43 PM
We ask someone to come up with only one 'Bush' lie and nobody can come up with one. Must not have happened very often.
1042 Trooper
09-21-2009, 08:12 PM
*crickets chirping* *he twiddles his diddles* *he fiddles his pschnizel*
And still ... nothing. No real lies other than the fictional Bush lies. So lets just say (to appease nthe KoolAid crowd) that Bush IS A BOLD FACED LYING SCUZWAD.
Okay -0kay, it's off the table.
So now, again, let us discuss how disgusted we are with Barry Hussein Obama (might as wll be Osama). :D
nuthead
09-21-2009, 09:33 PM
*crickets chirping* *he twiddles his diddles* *he fiddles his pschnizel*
And still ... nothing. No real lies other than the fictional Bush lies. So lets just say (to appease nthe KoolAid crowd) that Bush IS A BOLD FACED LYING SCUZWAD.
Okay -0kay, it's off the table.
So now, again, let us discuss how disgusted we are with Barry Hussein Obama (might as wll be Osama). :D
Now, I'm sure you know they're bookmarking your post. At some future point, they'll try to throw it back and say "See even 1042 Trooper says Bush lied!!!!". Watch what I tell ya. ;)
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