Officer Does Not Like anti-Obama Poster: "It ain't [America] no more, OK?"

[xraodcop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIKPKjl0-pg&eurl=


This video was taken on Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 at Rep. Jim Moran's (D-VA) Town Hall meeting on Obama Deathcare (Howie Dean was there too) held at South Lakes High School in Reston, VA.

[DAL]

Rather inarticulate for an officer in Reston. Are you sure he is a police officer?

[Bigtexan44]

I am pro-police but this officer, (if he was an officer and not just a security guard,) is really ignorant.

[xraodcop]

Thanks for your message. Representative Moran rented our High School via FCPS community use process to hold a constituents meeting in the northern Virginia area. South Lakes has a decent sized gymnasium and plenty of parking so we are occasionally are utilized by the community for events which draw big crowds. A regional triathlon and a giant Cancer Walk for Life rent our facility each year for example. Officer Cheeks works for Fairfax County Schools, he is not an employee of South Lakes High School. I recommend you direct your information to FCPS central. Thanks again,


Bruce Butler
Principal
South Lakes High School
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Safety & Security
Fred Ellis, Director
Fred.Ellis@fcps.edu









Rather inarticulate for an officer in Reston. Are you sure he is a police officer?

[yellowreef]

Wow. This is the proof right here. I am sure Obama met with this officer prior to the event and they conspired to let the truth out. I was watching the video until the FEMA camp caption, I closed it after that. What could have been a valid point, got destroyed in my eyes by the belief and propagation of an absolutely absurd urban myth made up by demagogues.

[GLHS837]

Nobody is saying this officer is part of some part a huge conspiracy, just that arbitrary making up of laws "If you dont do what I say, I can charge you with whatever I want to charge you with". I also liked the "its got a picture" thing, that was cool, your poster isnt allowed becuase its got a picture.

Methinks perhaps the Fairfax county schools might need to do some training for their security folks. I also liked the "schools have very different First Amendment rights", which, while true, I dont think applied to this.

[damode1985]

im going to say that was a security officer, not a police officer.

[JPantz]

Methinks perhaps the Fairfax county schools might need to do some training for their security folks. I also liked the "schools have very different First Amendment rights", which, while true, I dont think applied to this.

Yeah, I feel like the idea that schools have different first amendment rights applies to a student/teacher or student/administration relationships, not a rally held at a school during off hours.

[westside popo]

More like a security gaurd.

[danthony]

Whoa. I have no words. If that was me, I would get a call saying to bring my badge and gun to HQ tomorrow at 10 am.

[1042 Trooper]

Fine example of Obama's (might as well be Osama) new world order. I am both ashamed for law enforcement while thrilled that millions will see what has happened under this worthless president.

[BD380]

That is NOT a police officer. He is a security guard employed by Fairfax County Public Schools.

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/safety-security/security/index.htm

[Southflaguy]

The guy w/ the poster was just giving the security guards a hard time...Stupid on his part...:rolleyes:

This is no diffrent when those anti-Bush protesters disobey and get delt with...

[RLRay]

When I owned my Private Security company, I had to teach the "Powers to Arrest" class. There are very specific differences in arrests a sworn LEO can make and those a 'private security' can make, i.e. 'citizens arrest'. Regardless of what category this man was in, he used very poor judgement in the way he handled the situation. I would not have hired him with his attitude!

[SHU]

The guy w/ the poster was just giving the security guards a hard time...Stupid on his part...:rolleyes:

This is no diffrent when those anti-Bush protesters disobey and get delt with...

What law was he breaking? A lot of these political protesters do break the law but this guy had a sign with a pic and the guy did not like it and wanted it put away. I'd say his 1st admn rights were violated. He has a lawsuit against the school system.

[Southflaguy]

What law was he breaking? A lot of these political protesters do break the law but this guy had a sign with a pic and the guy did not like it and wanted it put away. I'd say his 1st admn rights were violated. He has a lawsuit against the school system.

You can't put up signs/posters in school property, at least down here you can't, w/o permision, not even students that go to the school (sure they can put up stuff, but it will be taken down by administration ASAP)...

I'm going to guess the people in the school w/ posters were pro-Obama; otherwise the guys would have been inside the school w/ the other protesters...If he wants he should get permission from the school, get people who agree w/ him, and then put up his poster and protest...He should do it the right way...

He was being hard-headed...

[Bigtexan44]

You can't put up signs/posters in school property, at least down here you can't, w/o permision, not even students that go to the school (sure they can put up stuff, but it will be taken down by administration ASAP)...

I'm going to guess the people in the school w/ posters were pro-Obama; otherwise the guys would have been inside the school w/ the other protesters...If he wants he should get permission from the school, get people who agree w/ him, and then put up his poster and protest...He should do it the right way...

He was being hard-headed...

The PEOPLE have the RIGHT to petition their government and question them on what they are doing. This was a political event therefore the school was free game as far as what this person was doing. You can't pick and choose which signs are OK and which signs are not OK. That security/police officer is an idiot and I believe a suit is in order against him and the school district.

[Southflaguy]

The PEOPLE have the RIGHT to petition their government and question them on what they are doing. This was a political event therefore the school was free game as far as what this person was doing. You can't pick and choose which signs are OK and which signs are not OK. That security/police officer is an idiot and I believe a suit is in order against him and the school district.

YES, you're right, the PEOPLE do have a RIGHT to petition their government, but that's not the issue in the video...The issue in the video was that they guy wanted to put a sign on school grounds...

I just saw the viedo AGAIN and no where did the security gaurd tell the guy to: "shut-up", "be quiet", "you can't say that", ect...The whole incident was about the sign...

[tony.o]

Obama has advisors in the White House who describe themselves as communists, so whats so surprising about this.

[tony.o]

You can't put up signs/posters in school property, at least down here you can't, w/o permision, not even students that go to the school (sure they can put up stuff, but it will be taken down by administration ASAP)...

I'm going to guess the people in the school w/ posters were pro-Obama; otherwise the guys would have been inside the school w/ the other protesters...If he wants he should get permission from the school, get people who agree w/ him, and then put up his poster and protest...He should do it the right way...

He was being hard-headed...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're having a public political event on school property. They're not having 'school' where someone is compelled to attend so this isn't an issue about similar to what students can or cannot do on school grounds.
The posters or whatever will be gone after the political event is over, so this thing about school property is not an issue.
What is so obvious is that the guy was using whatever authority he has to enforce the rules according to his own political preferrences. We all know thats what that was. I'm what, 99.9999% sure he's a democrat and an obama drone.
He couldn't even explain what he was doing and probably has never made a real arrest or dealt with a situation, as evidenced by him walking away. He's a dummy, but would make a good democrat choice for a Supreme Court Nominee.

[GLHS837]

YES, you're right, the PEOPLE do have a RIGHT to petition their government, but that's not the issue in the video...The issue in the video was that they guy wanted to put a sign on school grounds...

I just saw the viedo AGAIN and no where did the security gaurd tell the guy to: "shut-up", "be quiet", "you can't say that", ect...The whole incident was about the sign...


the man wasnt trying to "put the sign on school property", he was carrying it on school property, as were many other folks carrying signs, from what he said" what about those signs, and those signs", to which the answer was that his was different becuase it had a picture.

He didnt want to pound this into the ground and leave it, it was a sign to carry during the political twn hall that was open to all, including those who disagree.

[Southflaguy]

the man wasnt trying to "put the sign on school property", he was carrying it on school property, as were many other folks carrying signs, from what he said" what about those signs, and those signs", to which the answer was that his was different becuase it had a picture.

He didnt want to pound this into the ground and leave it, it was a sign to carry during the political twn hall that was open to all, including those who disagree.

Maybe the people that were carrying signs had permission to do so...The video was under 2 minutes, so it's hard to say what reallllly happend: did he get kicked out of the town hall meeting, was it a town hall meeting, why wasn't he in the school w/ the other people, was it an invitation only town hall meeting?...:confused:



Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're having a public political event on school property. They're not having 'school' where someone is compelled to attend so this isn't an issue about similar to what students can or cannot do on school grounds.
The posters or whatever will be gone after the political event is over, so this thing about school property is not an issue.
What is so obvious is that the guy was using whatever authority he has to enforce the rules according to his own political preferrences. We all know thats what that was. I'm what, 99.9999% sure he's a democrat and an obama drone.
He couldn't even explain what he was doing and probably has never made a real arrest or dealt with a situation, as evidenced by him walking away. He's a dummy, but would make a good democrat choice for a Supreme Court Nominee.

Maybe it was an invitation only town hall meeting, in this case maybe it was some pro-Obama initative(s)/plan(s)...Like I said he could do it the right way, get permission and invite peole wo agree w/ him, in this case anti-Obama's initatives(s)/plans...

That way instead of being in the parking lot he'll be inside the gym or cafeteria w/ his Obama sign and the security guard(s) won't be able to tell him anything...

[tony.o]

Maybe the people that were carrying signs had permission to do so...The video was under 2 minutes, so it's hard to say what reallllly happend: did he get kicked out of the town hall meeting, was it a town hall meeting, why wasn't he in the school w/ the other people, was it an invitation only town hall meeting?...:confused:





Maybe it was an invitation only town hall meeting, in this case maybe it was some pro-Obama initative(s)/plan(s)...Like I said he could do it the right way, get permission and invite peole wo agree w/ him, in this case anti-Obama's initatives(s)/plans...

That way instead of being in the parking lot he'll be inside the gym or cafeteria w/ his Obama sign and the security guard(s) won't be able to tell him anything...

Maybe they were giving pony rides to crippled kids.....Come on, can you not sede a little bit to your oppossition here.

[DEcop989]

Is he an armed officer? If he is armed, in VA, he does have arrest authority beyond that of a private citizen, if he's security. Or, if he is a SCOP, then he is a fully sworn LEO.

How is FFX Schools set up? Are they security or LEOs - their website says absolutely nothing

[tony.o]

Is he an armed officer? If he is armed, in VA, he does have arrest authority beyond that of a private citizen, if he's security. Or, if he is a SCOP, then he is a fully sworn LEO.



Who cares? The guy couldn't even carry a conversation.

[btfp]

The rights of this protester were violated. The security guard was in the wrong.
If you want to bring an anti Obama poster and I bring a pro Obama poster we can both hold them up or we have a lawsuit. i am assuming there was no profanity on the sign.
Me I would have held the sign up. Had the guard taken it I would have had him arrested for stealing my property and sued the school district.
Like it or not we can all protest against or for the government.

[BD380]

Is he an armed officer? If he is armed, in VA, he does have arrest authority beyond that of a private citizen, if he's security. Or, if he is a SCOP, then he is a fully sworn LEO.

How is FFX Schools set up? Are they security or LEOs - their website says absolutely nothing
http://www.fcps.edu/fts/safety-security/security/index.htm

I think the picture of the badge says it all...

[GLHS837]

Maybe the people that were carrying signs had permission to do so...The video was under 2 minutes, so it's hard to say what reallllly happend: did he get kicked out of the town hall meeting, was it a town hall meeting, why wasn't he in the school w/ the other people, was it an invitation only town hall meeting?...:confused:





Maybe it was an invitation only town hall meeting, in this case maybe it was some pro-Obama initative(s)/plan(s)...Like I said he could do it the right way, get permission and invite peole wo agree w/ him, in this case anti-Obama's initatives(s)/plans...

That way instead of being in the parking lot he'll be inside the gym or cafeteria w/ his Obama sign and the security guard(s) won't be able to tell him anything...

My local guy Steny Hoyer, is having a town hall tommorow. No signs are allowed in the building, but are allowed outisde. That could be is the case here, which would explain why he is not inside. Or it could be that the facility had reached capacity, and no more folks were allowed in.

[Raiden]

Some folks really need a lesson the 1st Amendment, this <insert_expletive> of a rent-a-cop(is he a LEO?!) is a clear example of it. Had he attempted to take the sign, I would called the cops and have him arrested for theft. Wow. Truly mind boggling that this guy is actually employed.

[FNA209]

Well I think the officer was being a racist! Will Obama say that in a news release?

Then he can invite both of the people to the WH for beer and we can have another spectacle. Maybe that's Obama's masterplan. It could result in him drinking lots of beer. If that is a plank in his platform, I could agree with him on that! :p

Think of the positive impact it could have. We could liken liken him to-

Marie Antoinette- "Let them drink beer!"

Or

Hoover- ""A beer in every hand and a car in every garage."

Or if he really wants to come up with a historical reference, he could pull a George Washington-

"Bad beer is a robbery of the worst kind: for your pocket-book not only suffers by it, but your preparations are lost and a season passes away unimproved."

[Legend1bt]

Fine example of Obama's (might as well be Osama) new world order. I am both ashamed for law enforcement while thrilled that millions will see what has happened under this worthless president.

And yet you voted for Obama Mr.Trooper....

Take your medicine; you wanted change you got it buddy. (lol)

[Taylor1430]

The PEOPLE have the RIGHT to petition their government and question them on what they are doing. This was a political event therefore the school was free game as far as what this person was doing. You can't pick and choose which signs are OK and which signs are not OK. That security/police officer is an idiot and I believe a suit is in order against him and the school district.

Its been a few years since I've lived in Virginia but if I recall correctly, one is not allowed to display signs on the property. I recall this during election time...supporters of candidates could not hold signs on the school property but were standing near the roadway off of the property...Isn't an election a political event? And why wouldnt the same rules apply?

With that said, I do not agree with the officer. If the sign has to go because of school policy, then so be it...but then so do the other ones.

After watching the video again, it appears that the guy in the video was attempting to hang the sign on a pole and wasn't just holding it. If he was attempting to mount his sign to the pole, then the officer may very well be in the right.

[tony.o]

Its been a few years since I've lived in Virginia but if I recall correctly, one is not allowed to display signs on the property. I recall this during election time...supporters of candidates could not hold signs on the school property but were standing near the roadway off of the property...Isn't an election a political event? And why wouldnt the same rules apply?

.

You don't see the difference between a polling station and a political rally, town hall or whatever they were doing. Come on people.:rolleyes:

[Taylor1430]

You don't see the difference between a polling station and a political rally, town hall or whatever they were doing. Come on people.:rolleyes:

I see a public school being used for an event....and the rules of that school should be followed. Whether its a polling place, town hall meeting, or a meeting of the Red Hat Society. If the the school doesn't want posters hanging off of the poles in their parking lot, then thats the way it should be. As I said in my previous post, the officer would be wrong for singling this guy out if there were other signs posted on the property that shouldnt be there. Thats what makes the officer wrong...and not that he was enforcing the rules of the school

[FNA209]

I see a public school being used for an event....and the rules of that school should be followed. Whether its a polling place, town hall meeting, or a meeting of the Red Hat Society. If the the school doesn't want posters hanging off of the poles in their parking lot, then thats the way it should be. As I said in my previous post, the officer would be wrong for singling this guy out if there were other signs posted on the property that shouldnt be there. Thats what makes the officer wrong...and not that he was enforcing the rules of the school

I like your arguments. You obviously do a good job sorting through the issues when dealing with a situation. If I come down your way to protest, I hope you are the officer I talk to. :p

You are right- if the school rules say no signs, it's fine. If the guy was hanging up the poster and that's against policy, again it's fine.

But based on the discussion we saw on the video, I think we can assume the reason that poster was singled out was due to the picture on it. That is the main issue here. The picture isn't obscene or anything. The officer took offense to it. That's what's wrong. He wasn't objecting to all of the other signs. As I posted up top, it appears the officer was a security guard. Good thing, because if he was a police officer and used his personal feelings to decide what the crime was, he's a failure as a police officer. We don't get to do that.

I stood and watched a flag get burnt once. I find that act to be one of the most distasteful acts an American can do. But it's not against the law.

I have to say that was the hardest time I ever had controlling my instincts to (figuratively speaking) break a few heads. I don't have the right to (figuratively speaking) break heads because someone offended me. :p

I have to wait for them to break a law (no figuratively speaking involved). It should be an honest violation- not something I make up after I arrest them. And even then, I can't "break heads". :p

[tony.o]

I see a public school being used for an event....and the rules of that school should be followed. Whether its a polling place, town hall meeting, or a meeting of the Red Hat Society. If the the school doesn't want posters hanging off of the poles in their parking lot, then thats the way it should be. As I said in my previous post, the officer would be wrong for singling this guy out if there were other signs posted on the property that shouldnt be there. Thats what makes the officer wrong...and not that he was enforcing the rules of the school

Obviously, there are laws regarding campaigning at polling places....you know, where people actually cast a vote....and we've already talked about the school rules thing. This didn't have anything to do with school rules.

[Taylor1430]

Obviously, there are laws regarding campaigning at polling places....you know, where people actually cast a vote....and we've already talked about the school rules thing. This didn't have anything to do with school rules.

I must have missed it but I dont see any posts where the rules of the school system were clarified about posting signs. Additionally, when he is saying "What about those signs there...and there...and there" pointing the camera around, I see signs posted on some sort of poles in the grassy area. Not people excercising their right to free speech by holding up signs. The officer says he told the guy "it can't be up on school board property". Did not hear anything that he was not allowed to hold the sign, or carry the sign. I am curious about why the beginning of the video is cut off. Obviously there was some conversation between the guy and the officer....where the officer obviously explained to the guy why it couldnt be up on the property...unless the officer is lying when he said that he already explained it to him...why did the poster of the video feel the need to not include the whole conversation?

And I am not referring to laws regarding polling places...I'm talking about signs posted on school property when its against their rules. At our local school, you cannot post signs even at a school football game unless permission is given by the school. My point being is if those are the rules, they would apply no matter the event...whether its an election, school function, private gathering...whatever. Hey, I'm not allowed to hang signs in my local mall or at my apartment complex....but maybe I should do it anyway and then complain they are violating my rights.

There was a lot this officer did that was uncalled for and out of line. But I'm not sure he violated this guys freedom of speech without knowing the whole story...and what the rules were. The officer (as far as I know) doesn't have any arrest powers...and making the statement that he would find something to lock him up for really troubles me. The officer was out of line in that regard...but I think the issue was the hanging of the sign on school property...and not that the guy was displaying the sign...The officer told him not to put it back up...he didn't tell him to put it away. If the guy is told he cannot hang the sign on school property (meaning from a pole), I do not see how that is a violation of his rights...

I think you and I are on the same side but arguing the wrong points...the officer wasn't in the right....but I dont think this is a 1st amendment issue

[ten08]

All this incident proves is that POST standards of Hiring and Training aren't being adhered to. One has to look at who hired him

[tony.o]

I must have missed it but I dont see any posts where the rules of the school system were clarified about posting signs. Additionally, when he is saying "What about those signs there...and there...and there" pointing the camera around, I see signs posted on some sort of poles in the grassy area. Not people excercising their right to free speech by holding up signs. The officer says he told the guy "it can't be up on school board property". Did not hear anything that he was not allowed to hold the sign, or carry the sign. I am curious about why the beginning of the video is cut off. Obviously there was some conversation between the guy and the officer....where the officer obviously explained to the guy why it couldnt be up on the property...unless the officer is lying when he said that he already explained it to him...why did the poster of the video feel the need to not include the whole conversation?

And I am not referring to laws regarding polling places...I'm talking about signs posted on school property when its against their rules. At our local school, you cannot post signs even at a school football game unless permission is given by the school. My point being is if those are the rules, they would apply no matter the event...whether its an election, school function, private gathering...whatever. Hey, I'm not allowed to hang signs in my local mall or at my apartment complex....but maybe I should do it anyway and then complain they are violating my rights.

There was a lot this officer did that was uncalled for and out of line. But I'm not sure he violated this guys freedom of speech without knowing the whole story...and what the rules were. The officer (as far as I know) doesn't have any arrest powers...and making the statement that he would find something to lock him up for really troubles me. The officer was out of line in that regard...but I think the issue was the hanging of the sign on school property...and not that the guy was displaying the sign...The officer told him not to put it back up...he didn't tell him to put it away. If the guy is told he cannot hang the sign on school property (meaning from a pole), I do not see how that is a violation of his rights...

I think you and I are on the same side but arguing the wrong points...the officer wasn't in the right....but I dont think this is a 1st amendment issue

I hear ya. It's not the case of the century, but the whole deal is the guy was misusing whatever authority he has to enforce his own personal preferences. He couldn't even give a lame excuse for his actions. As partisan as I am, I never do that for any reason at work.
The guy would have not walked away with my sign, we'd be seeing if he really could make an arrest.

[Nightshift va]

I am pro-police but this officer, (if he was an officer and not just a security guard,) is really ignorant.

Could not agree anymore. I think he also should have kept the "I can charge you with anything I want" remark to himself.

There may be some law about actually putting up or attaching a political sign on school property, but would he have been told to get rid of the sign had he just held it up? I think we all know the answer to that question.

The Officer did not like the picture of his messiah painted up as the "joker" so he took offense and used his position to do something about it. It had nothing to do with the rule of law, period. He was actually talking out loud and speaking what he was thinking when he said "I can make up any charge I want". I wonder if he will call NOBLE to bail him out now.:cool:

Having said all that, if it was legal (and it may be) to burn the american flag in a public protest group regardless of the law I think I would stomp on the person who did it into a wet puddle on the ground then arrest them, so I guess I'm no better.

[cpd169]

If there were any rules about signs not being on school property, then all of them would have had to go, not just this one. If the school board specifically allowed one sides political signs and refused to allow the other side, then they need to be sued for violating the other groups 1st Amendment right to free speech. In my opinion this guard or officer acted "stupidly" in his actions and speech. It is stupid to tell someone that you can arrest them by "making up any charge" they want to.

If any of my subordinate officers acted that manner and said that I'd send them home immediately. As a supervisor, I'm responsible for my subordinate officers' actions as well as my own.

[bohdiopencarry]

Lots of good discussion going on regarding Nitrovic, I mean, Wesley Cheeks. :) When one does more digging, one finds that the school property was leased for the evening and open to the public. As such the property no longer is subject to the restrictions it normally would have while operating as a school, even after hours. Paying for the county school security staff was more of a convienence for the meeting and a way to upsell a service to the politicians - it's all about making a buck these days don'tcha know? Even schools are allowed to be capitalists.

That's where the problems start. The security agent believed he was working within the same guidelines as the facility operating as a "school" when in fact it was operating as a "public venue", for which the security agent was not properly trained to handle.

Do your google-foo, and you shall find that which you seek.

[FNA209]

Lots of good discussion going on regarding Nitrovic, I mean, Wesley Cheeks. :) When one does more digging, one finds that the school property was leased for the evening and open to the public. As such the property no longer is subject to the restrictions it normally would have while operating as a school, even after hours. Paying for the county school security staff was more of a convienence for the meeting and a way to upsell a service to the politicians - it's all about making a buck these days don'tcha know? Even schools are allowed to be capitalists.

That's where the problems start. The security agent believed he was working within the same guidelines as the facility operating as a "school" when in fact it was operating as a "public venue", for which the security agent was not properly trained to handle.

Do your google-foo, and you shall find that which you seek.

The Force is strong with this one!

Good google-fu skills indeed.... and a very good point.

[alpha1906]

I am pro-police but this officer, (if he was an officer and not just a security guard,) is really ignorant.

When are you folks going to realize its not about being an officer or not or being a dem or a repub. Its a black and white thing. yes. Black officers like Obama (most anyway) and most white officers do not. Heck, during the election Black hard core republicans admitted they voted for Obama. Most things in this country fall down racial lines. We Americans are just not willing to admit it.

[Bearcat357]

When are you folks going to realize its not about being an officer or not or being a dem or a repub. Its a black and white thing. yes. Black officers like Obama (most anyway) and most white officers do not. Heck, during the election Black hard core republicans admitted they voted for Obama. Most things in this country fall down racial lines. We Americans are just not willing to admit it.

A. The SECURITY GUARD was not a LEO.....

B. I know plenty of Black LEOs that voted for McCain because they have actually worked the road and have seen programs like welfare don't work.....

C. I'm from MO...the Show-Me-State....SHOW ME where Black hard-core Repubs voted for Barry! If you say Powell, I am going to smack you in the head....COLIN POWELL IS A RINO!! Always has been, always will be. That's why he would have never gotten past hard core GOPer's because of his views.... If you tell my JC Watts or Condi voted for him......or even Steele.....then show me.....

D. The only one making things go on racial lines around here is you.... :rolleyes:

[ray8285]

When are you folks going to realize its not about being an officer or not or being a dem or a repub. Its a black and white thing. yes.

Get real...it's about MONEY!!!!!!!!! If it was all about race, OJ would have been in jail for murder, but he had MONEY to get away with it. Kennedy didn't get away with killing a woman because he was white, he had MONEY!!!! If it was all about race hip hop would have died a horrible death two decades ago but it was seen as a potential MONEY maker, and it survived.

You want to keep it real, pull your head out of where ever it is. Most americans do not view each other along racial lines, we see each other by class much more than race.

[GWBJR]

Fine example of Obama's (might as well be Osama) new world order. I am both ashamed for law enforcement while thrilled that millions will see what has happened under this worthless president.

Just like worthless people collecting retirements they don't deserve.

[Bearcat357]

Just like worthless people collecting retirements they don't deserve.

Errr....you trying to stay 10-42 didn't earn his retirement after doing his 20 years....?

Nice.... :rolleyes:

[Citizen85]

Just like worthless people collecting retirements they don't deserve.

Dang dude I don't exactly like the guy but that's a bit much.