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TheKansan
06-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone here get annual raises? I just started at my agency recently, and apparently it has been years since CO's there have received a raise. Unless you are promoted, there is no increase in pay. I find this very odd, and somewhat troubling. This is the first time I have worked in civil service, and I have had many jobs over the years, and every job had an annual performance review. If I did well on that review, a small pay raise was given to me. Often times it was small enough to be considered a cost of living increase, but never did I work a job and not get anything.

Well one CO who has worked at my agency for nearly 3 years told me he is making the exact same as I am and has not received a raise since he started. Now I understand that they are having budget issues, however, I am not going to let my income stagnate for years on end while all of my expenses continue to increase. It might not be so bad if there was overtime available, however there is practically zero overtime at my facility and it has been that way for nearly a year.

I'm not saying that I don't enjoy my new job or that I am not appreciative of the fact that it saved me from unemployment, however looking at the long term, I would have difficulty staying at this agency for more than a couple of years unless there is some sort of pay raise.

Atiesto
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
Raises? What's that?

25YearsToGo
06-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone here get annual raises? I just started at my agency recently, and apparently it has been years since CO's there have received a raise. You need NYSCOPBA.

In NY state we get raises the first 8 years (Steps) of our careers. Then at 10, 15, 20, 25 years. During that time we are suppose to get contract raises every year in addition to the steps if we have a contract. I've been in for 12 years now and haven't seen a on time contract yet. Our next contract won't get settled for another 2/3 years so that will make 15 years of contracts that have not been done on time. I should have 3 contracts left in my career at that point, maybe one of them will be on time but I doubt it.

25YearsToGo
06-28-2009, 04:07 PM
Hiring Rate: 43,867
Step 1: $45,502
Step 2: $47,137
Step 3: $48,772
Step 4: $50,407
Step 5: $52,042
Job Rate: $53,677
10 Year: 56,568
15 Year: $59,112
20 Year: $62,639
25 Year: $65,183

Salaries don't include if they apply to you, $1500 expanded duty pay, Night shift pay $900, Afternoon shift pay $1800, Pre-shift briefing aprrox: $2500, and Location pay $3210.

I looked up Kansas and it says the average Correction Officer pay is $32,000, is that correct?

MSICF
06-28-2009, 06:34 PM
You need NYSCOPBA.

In NY state we get raises the first 8 years (Steps) of our careers. Then at 10, 15, 20, 25 years. During that time we are suppose to get contract raises every year in addition to the steps if we have a contract. I've been in for 12 years now and haven't seen a on time contract yet. Our next contract won't get settled for another 2/3 years so that will make 15 years of contracts that have not been done on time. I should have 3 contracts left in my career at that point, maybe one of them will be on time but I doubt it.

There is no way he knows how long it will take for the next contract.

MI_CO
06-28-2009, 06:55 PM
In Michigan we get step increases the first 5 years, plus we get a uniform allowence once a year plus we are suspost to get 2 contract cost of living raises each year, not to mention 5% shift diff, holiday pay on OT.

25YearsToGo
06-28-2009, 06:58 PM
There is no way he knows how long it will take for the next contract. My opinion is based on the past 15 years. You don't know that they won't be late. Odds are they will be. You don't need to worry about them though. You should be long gone by then.

MSICF
06-28-2009, 07:00 PM
My opinion is based on the past 15 years. You don't know that they won't be late. Odds are they will be. You don't need to worry about them thought. You should be long gone by then.

You didn't state it as opinion.

25YearsToGo
06-28-2009, 07:04 PM
You didn't state it as opinion.
Didn't think I had to state the obvious.

Iowa #1603
06-28-2009, 08:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone here get annual raises? I just started at my agency recently, and apparently it has been years since CO's there have received a raise. Unless you are promoted, there is no increase in pay. I find this very odd, and somewhat troubling. This is the first time I have worked in civil service.

Are you state or county?

Iowa we start at about 34,000 something a yr......step raise after 6 months
then 1 yr
1 yr
2 1/2 yrs
1 yr
2 1/2 yr
or something like that and top out at 9 1/2 yrs
top out right now at about 48,000 a yr

We also usually get somewhere around 1-3% per yr as a contract raise depending on what was negotiated

Groove
06-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Normal raise is 3% but 2009 we only got 2.5%. The county council is doing the 2010 budget and asked all dept to submit budget proposals with NO raises. Every three years we get $500 added on to our salary for longevity. I get my first one in September.

TheKansan
06-28-2009, 09:51 PM
I looked up Kansas and it says the average Correction Officer pay is $32,000, is that correct?

That is probably about correct. Starting pay here is $12.98 an hour, which equates to about $27,000 a year. In the rest of the state, that probably would be a decent paying job, but in Kansas City, the pay has me struggling a little.

Are you state or county?


I work for the state. The major counties around here all pay much higher than the state.

My plan is to work the evening or overnight shift so I can get the night differential, and apply for promotions as soon as possible to get a pay raise.

CarRamRod
06-28-2009, 10:50 PM
In Western Washington, the DOC pays us about $3400.00 a month to start. At the end of five years, we top out at around $4200.00 a month.

The county and city jails in this area pay much more. They usually start out around $3800-$3900 a month and top out at around $5000-$5300 a month.

The good thing is there is OT to augment our pay a little bit.

VtCO84
06-28-2009, 11:40 PM
in vermont, we start at 15.16/hour once you're a permanent classified employee.

you get a step once a year for the first 5 years then one every 2 years after that. you can apply for two advanced steps during the course of your career depending on the amount of training hours you have and if you have a degree (associates, bachelors, etc).

we also get a cost of living (1.8% of your hourly rate) once a year.

i get both next pay period :D

NY2NC
06-28-2009, 11:47 PM
I work for a county facility. We get reviewed every year and depending on the budget we get our raise accordingly. With that being said, the way the economy is and the county having a huge budget shortfall we are still getting reviewed however there will be no pay increases for the upcoming fiscal year. As matter of fact the county actually cut 13 million from our budget! I'm concerned about how we are supposed to do our jobs safely and effectively without the funding.

ScottyP
06-29-2009, 02:50 AM
I get a annual increase on June 1 every year (my hire date) until I top out at 12 years or something like that. I just finished my 8th year. We usually get a small cost of living increase the first of every year also but that is very doubtful for next year.

Our state corrections guys and gals don't have a set pay ladder so they are in the same boat as the original poster. I think they get a raise every 3 or 4 years on average.

wakeislander
06-29-2009, 09:07 PM
We get raises only during a contract. Usually contracts are 4 years, this time its a 3 year.

I'm ok with a delay or a pay freeze for a year during a really difficult time as long as there is some OT.

I'm not OK with going without a contract for years, while the state wastes money for other things.

No raise and No overtime---, to me I'd be looking else where if possible.

TheKansan
06-29-2009, 09:18 PM
I'm not OK with going without a contract for years, while the state wastes money for other things.

No raise and No overtime---, to me I'd be looking else where if possible.

Well I just started working here, and it is my first full-time job in the law enforcement field, so I am going to stick around for a while. Turnover is somewhat high here, so there are a lot of opportunities for advancement, which could lead to pay increases.

I'm sure in a couple of years, when the economy rebounds, there will be pay increases. Until then I am looking at getting a part-time job. I worked at wal-mart for 7 years, and I left on good terms, so I'm going to try and get a job there.

BigHouseGreen
06-29-2009, 09:47 PM
In CA. our pay is going backwards....LOL....:):mad::)

Iowa #1603
06-30-2009, 06:16 AM
Well I just started working here, and it is my first full-time job in the law enforcement field, so I am going to stick around for a while. Turnover is somewhat high here, so there are a lot of opportunities for advancement, which could lead to pay increases.

I'm sure in a couple of years, when the economy rebounds, there will be pay increases. Until then I am looking at getting a part-time job. I worked at wal-mart for 7 years, and I left on good terms, so I'm going to try and get a job there.

What I could find shows that a Correctional Officer I is paygrade 17 and a Correctional officer II is paygrade 19

http://www.da.ks.gov/ps/documents/payplan0608hrly.pdf


The state and the union may have an agreement to freeze the steps during this budget crisis (Many years ago I was hired during a pay freeze-----and had experience, so I actually hired at a step higher than others who hired before me.........................made for some interesting discussions as to me being "junior" in seniority but getting more $$$$$$$)

I would assume you are at Lansing----------------turnover is high because they leave for the BOP down the street!

The officers I remember back in 1990 (I toured Lansing while in KC for a union conference) were not getting paid much. I was making more as a Officer than a SSgt was making at KDOC.

We have a lot of staff working part time jobs in my institution.

TheKansan
06-30-2009, 04:17 PM
What I could find shows that a Correctional Officer I is paygrade 17 and a Correctional officer II is paygrade 19

http://www.da.ks.gov/ps/documents/payplan0608hrly.pdf


The state and the union may have an agreement to freeze the steps during this budget crisis (Many years ago I was hired during a pay freeze-----and had experience, so I actually hired at a step higher than others who hired before me.........................made for some interesting discussions as to me being "junior" in seniority but getting more $$$$$$$)

I would assume you are at Lansing----------------turnover is high because they leave for the BOP down the street!

The officers I remember back in 1990 (I toured Lansing while in KC for a union conference) were not getting paid much. I was making more as a Officer than a SSgt was making at KDOC.

We have a lot of staff working part time jobs in my institution.

Yeah the step increases are frozen indefinitely. It's not the highest paying job, but it pays $1.50 an hour more than my previous job, and the benefits are exponentially better.

Don't get me wrong, just 6 months ago I was on unemployment, so I am very grateful for this job. I still will probably need part-time work to make ends meet since I am making about half what I did before I was laid off.

NVDOC1
07-01-2009, 04:52 AM
Nevada Doc top pay is 62k base pay after 9 years. % perscent for swing or grave. 550 a year uniform allowance and 7.50 a day for the drive to the prison. Overtime in Nevada is pretty much unlimited. No state tax here which is nice.After 20 years or when you hit the age of 50 you get 54 percent of your 3 highest years and 2.67 percent every year thereafter.

Ransom
07-01-2009, 04:50 PM
Under our current contract, we get 1% COLA, another 2% COLA later in the year and our 4% annual anniversary raise. Thats a grand total of 7.14% In 3 years, I've gone from $34,122 to over $45,000.

However, with this current economic 'crisis', our County is trying to void our contract, drop the 3% COLA alltogether and drop our anniversary raise down to 3%. Kinda funny how they want to drop the COLA so that those officers that are topped out already or retired won't get ANY adjustments.

The County Police were up for a new contract and they signed for a regular 3%, thats why the County is trying to screw us out of our BINDING contract of 7%.

Needless to say we're fighting it, I'm kinda scared because the County Council introduced a bill to freeze our wages totally since we didn't take their 3% offer.