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[dpd0779]

I know there have been threads on FLETC but I don't see any recent discussions on the topic. It looks like I'll be attending the Basic Investigator course in Jul, no official word but I'm making plans as if I'm going. The question I have is in regards to living arrangements. I am about 45 miles from the training center in GA, takes me about 40 minutes down I-95 to get there. Is there a requirement to live on the installation in the housing they provide? What is the schedule like as far as PT, training, etc? Would I be able to drive back and forth? I'd appreciate any info folks have.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

I was down there last year with LMPT, I had a guy in my class that lived in the general area, he would stay some nights at the academy but spent most of his time commuting to FLETC.

As far as the schedule you will go most likely mon-fri 730am- 430pm, when i was there they didnt care where or what you were doing from 730pm-430am as long as you were in class everyday.

PT is not bad at all, some had a rough time with it, but it you dont quit, you will be great and have no problem.

The academy will give you great training. CITP is a great program, hoping to be back in a few years for the program 12 weeks.

dpd............... feel free to PM me with any questions, i did 18 weeks there and can give you insight on how to get around in the academy, and where things are at there.

[audi0xpl0de]

They expect you to be living in the housing provided. They'll know quickly if you are not because of the maids and anyone else in your room. We have someone in our class that lives less than 10mins away. He stays on campus during the week and goes home for the weekends.

[dpd0779]

All ready seeing some conflicting points of view on this. What time is PT in the morning?

[ask80]

for PT, it will vary. it's called ORT for CITP. you could have it at the beginning, middle, or end of the day. and it will change. you'll get a schedule that outlines everything for CITP. and yes you are required to living in your dorm. what you do though is up to you. after hours and on weekends you can go home.

[NY8739JR]

The "PT" is integrated with other things........the amount of PT you do really depends on your instructor.

[FPS1588]

I believe they don't care what you do after hours as long as you are where you need to be for training. However, you might want to get the okay from your agency. It might be easier to stay during the week and go home on the weekends so that you can study during the week without distractions. Your agency would not want any unforeseen event to come up while driving back and forth everyday that might affect your training. So you might have to make a decision of what you think would be best for you to complete the training.

[BD380]

Mess up your bed every night if you plan on staying off-campus. The maids will report you if they suspect the room isn't being used.

[manstown]

You don't need to be there as long as you make it when you're suppose too. They may want you to be there at all times during the week, but both times I've been down there people stayed off base and both agencies knew about it. It's a big boy and girl world down there. Mess up by being late, then that changes.

ORT is the new thing now as far as PT goes. Basically they integrated PT and DT. It cuts back on time and OT. When I was first there 5 years ago, you could have PT, go to a class, and then go back for DT. Never made sense. During the summer you may have to come in before the start of the day to PT if your PT was cancelled the day before due to a black flag day, too hot. Hated those 0530 runs. It's still humid as hell at that time of day in good ole Georgia!

[Uriel711]

Guess I don't understand the fear of the maids. Why would any agency care that you stay off base? Its not Paris Island. Its a paid job. Show up for work on time; give a 110% and go home.

Is there any official policy that says you MUST stay on base? I've looked hi and lo and have yet to see one other than word of mouth. As it was said before - we are all grown-ups here.

[Applicant077]

Guess I don't understand the fear of the maids. Why would any agency care that you stay off base? Its not Paris Island. Its a paid job. Show up for work on time; give a 110% and go home.

Is there any official policy that says you MUST stay on base? I've looked hi and lo and have yet to see one other than word of mouth. As it was said before - we are all grown-ups here.

Money. It costs the agency to get you a room there.

Liability. If something happens, car accident or something, and you are late the FLETC people notify your agency and the agency looks bad along with your late arrival.

Tip the maids, they'll let you keep the bike in the room and might not tattle :D

[dpd0779]

I dont think my agency would care much if i lived in the dorms. If anything it might save them some per diem. I'll have to play it by ear but I'm planning on coming and going unless I have to be there at 0530 for PT.

[irishlad2nv]

I dont think my agency would care much if i lived in the dorms. If anything it might save them some per diem. I'll have to play it by ear but I'm planning on coming and going unless I have to be there at 0530 for PT.

Per Diem to be somewhere around $3.00 a day. You live for free and eat for free there. No reason to give per diem. And why stay off campus? Each agency and each training program is different so I am not sure if you have to stay there, but I would recommend it. Training days don't usually start until 0700-0730, so the 0530 may never happen.

[dpd0779]

If I was single and or didnt live 30 minutes away it really wouldnt matter.

[Up_On_Base]

Just ask you parent agency what they want, go with that.

That being said, FLETC is a great time to bond with classmates and form relationships. You might miss some of that by not staying on base.

Then again, I have little kids and prefer to be around them and my hot wife compared to a ton of dudes;)

[dpd0779]

Same here, I had plenty of time for bonding with folks in college

[GreenLine]

Same here, I had plenty of time for bonding with folks in college

It's a little more than just "bonding." Not only is there likely to be pre-and post class stuff to be done, but these are going to be your future contacts and, in some cases, agency colleagues. Some agencies are more closely-knit than others, and in mine, everyone knew who the team players were at FLETC and who bailed out at 4:30 every day to be with their family. That stuff can follow you.

"Bonding" in college is quite different from supporting and and earning the trust of people that you might have to go through a door with someday. This is not to say that you won't find yourself in a situation where you don't have to study, have no after-hours responsibilities, and much of this won't apply particular situation (though I highly doubt it), but I'd wait and see what that situation is when you get there instead of planning beforehand to punch out every day and go home and having your family expect that. Being able to go home every single weekend is already a huge benefit that probably no one else in your class or their families will be able to enjoy.

[irishlad2nv]

It's a little more than just "bonding." Not only is there likely to be pre-and post class stuff to be done, but these are going to be your future contacts and, in some cases, agency colleagues. Some agencies are more closely-knit than others, and in mine, everyone knew who the team players were at FLETC and who bailed out at 4:30 every day to be with their family. That stuff can follow you.

"Bonding" in college is quite different from supporting and and earning the trust of people that you might have to go through a door with someday. This is not to say that you won't find yourself in a situation where you don't have to study, have no after-hours responsibilities, and much of this won't apply particular situation (though I highly doubt it), but I'd wait and see what that situation is when you get there instead of planning beforehand to punch out every day and go home and having your family expect that. Being able to go home every single weekend is already a huge benefit that probably no one else in your class or their families will be able to enjoy.

CITP there is not pre or post class "get togethers" unless the post class is consuming some adult beverages.

Some classmates conduct study groups the night before a test or on the weekend, which not staying at FLETC can hurt you there. Just stay during the week and leave on Fri to go home. You will feel much more rested not having to drive in at O dark thirty. Plus you will be fighting traffic with FLETC staff and Instructors and then the challenge of finding a place to park.

Go home on the weekends and rest.

[manstown]

CITP there is not pre or post class "get togethers" unless the post class is consuming some adult beverages.

Some classmates conduct study groups the night before a test or on the weekend, which not staying at FLETC can hurt you there. Just stay during the week and leave on Fri to go home. You will feel much more rested not having to drive in at O dark thirty. Plus you will be fighting traffic with FLETC staff and Instructors and then the challenge of finding a place to park.

Go home on the weekends and rest.

The first thing I learned when I was at FLETC, the first time, was to stay away from the study groups. Too many people trying to figure out the same thing with different opinions. The course is pretty cut and dry, why all the confusion I never knew. But being in the study group will confuse you even more. I studied on my own by doing my own notes the way I could understand them. Now as for the going out....we always went out together. It is a good way to get to know everyone. Just have to know that you're there for a reason.

As for the living arrangements....first time down there had a guy in my class that brought his family with him and they lived on St Simons for the whole time we were there. He stayed there with them and nothing was ever said. As long as you know that there are days that go past 1630, you're fine. Again, FLETC is a big boys and girls environment. If you screw up by not getting to campus in time because you stayed off base.....that's on you. I have yet to hear any agency say that you HAVE to stay there and I've talked to many people when I was down there. Just remember why you are there, take it very seriously and you'll be fine. If you live 30 minutes away and have a late night of looking for Grouper, stay in your room that night. That simple. And I hardly call leaving at 4:30 to be with your family as bailing. As long as you do the work you're suppose to do and get it done, and doing it well, you're serving your purpose there.

[biggdawgdaddy]

The answer is found on the FLETC web site:

http://www.fletc.gov/student-information/student-information-bulletin/glynco/assigned-housing/

"Prior approval must be obtained for Basic students to reside in off-center housing. If a student uses housing other than assigned by FLETC, the costs incurred for the accommodations will be the responsibility of the student and not reimbursable by their agency. The student will be notified to utilize the housing assigned by FLETC. Do not contact any off-Center contract housing property prior to arrival or attempt to make housing arrangements on your own. If you have questions, please contact your training officer."

[Uriel711]

I'm gonna have to agree with Manstown. I've asked 3 different feds who had CITP training and they basically said that once your training is done and you aren't missing out on any agency runs after 4:30 then you are golden. In fact I would think that FLETC and the agency would want to know who is staying off base and save some cash or bring in more trainees.

As far as bonding. Gotta say - I never had to spend the night with the people I work with now and I know everything about them. Don't see it being different at FLETC.

Thanks for the info Manstown.

[manstown]

The answer is found on the FLETC web site:

http://www.fletc.gov/student-information/student-information-bulletin/glynco/assigned-housing/

"Prior approval must be obtained for Basic students to reside in off-center housing. If a student uses housing other than assigned by FLETC, the costs incurred for the accommodations will be the responsibility of the student and not reimbursable by their agency. The student will be notified to utilize the housing assigned by FLETC. Do not contact any off-Center contract housing property prior to arrival or attempt to make housing arrangements on your own. If you have questions, please contact your training officer."

I will say this. The guy that brought his family down there during training kept his room on base. If there was something going on or work that had him on campus into the night he would stay there. The agency knew, but I don't think FLETC did. I don't see why they need too. He paid for his family to stay there and stayed with them. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Now that I think of it....he was our honor grad.

[GreenLine]

And I hardly call leaving at 4:30 to be with your family as bailing.

Maybe not in YOUR agency they don't. Mine does. And another prior one did as well.

All I'm saying is that before the guy makes the decision outright and gets his wife and kids expecting that dad will be home every night, he should wait and see if the training coordinator is a dick or not (one of mine was), what's going to be expected, and what the norm is for his agency. Some agencies are not content with letting FLETC run the show every training day, and you can bet your a%% that if they're paying you LEAP while you're there, they can and often do take advantage of that time.

FYI - the gov't saves no money by having someone stay off base on their own dime. The money for the FTE, to inlcude training and lodging while in training are requested and allocated in advance and subsequently have to spent on those things. So they're gonna have to pay for the room whether you sleep in it every night or not.

[dpd0779]

Do they have classes of mixed groups from different agencies? I doubt anyone else would be there from my agency. My agency would not care where I stayed either. Like I said I'll play it by ear, by no means have planned on being home every night.

[manstown]

Maybe not in YOUR agency they don't. Mine does. And another prior one did as well.

All I'm saying is that before the guy makes the decision outright and gets his wife and kids expecting that dad will be home every night, he should wait and see if the training coordinator is a dick or not (one of mine was), what's going to be expected, and what the norm is for his agency. Some agencies are not content with letting FLETC run the show every training day, and you can bet your a%% that if they're paying you LEAP while you're there, they can and often do take advantage of that time.

FYI - the gov't saves no money by having someone stay off base on their own dime. The money for the FTE, to inlcude training and lodging while in training are requested and allocated in advance and subsequently have to spent on those things. So they're gonna have to pay for the room whether you sleep in it every night or not.

If your agency believes that they are more important then someones family, then it sounds like an agency full of dicks. I'm with the Marshals now and there hasn't been one person that said your job is more important then your family. Actually quite a few stated the opposite. But I do agree that he should check with the agency to see their stand on the issue. But really what could they say? "No, you can't be with your family!" And if you do move your family down there for the duration of the training, you're right, you still have your room on campus. All you have to do is explain to your family that there are going to be nights where you'll have to stay on campus due to late nights. The important thing when you're down there is that you do the training and do it well. If you do it, what can they really say to you? If you start to slip with training....then I could see them intervening.

[irishlad2nv]

Do they have classes of mixed groups from different agencies? I doubt anyone else would be there from my agency. My agency would not care where I stayed either. Like I said I'll play it by ear, by no means have planned on being home every night.

What training class are you going to again? Since you are DOA, most likely no one else from your agency will be there, being that DOA has their own academy, but if it's CITP then yes you will have a mix of several agencies for your duration.

[miked6]

What training class are you going to again? Since you are DOA, most likely no one else from your agency will be there, being that DOA has their own academy, but if it's CITP then yes you will have a mix of several agencies for your duration.

Hey guys I am headed down to FLETC for CITP tomorrow. My understanding is that Monday is just a check in and get situated day. The first day of class is actually Tuesday. What is that first day of class like on Tuesday? When do you usually start ORT? When do you do the first PEB? Will that be in the first week? Any advise? Thanks!

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Hey guys I am headed down to FLETC for CITP tomorrow. My understanding is that Monday is just a check in and get situated day. The first day of class is actually Tuesday. What is that first day of class like on Tuesday? When do you usually start ORT? When do you do the first PEB? Will that be in the first week? Any advise? Thanks!


Some classes do start in the week, not all start on monday. When I went to FLETC our first class was kinda like your first day of college, you go to class and they pretty much lay it all out for you on duration of stay, then you get your uniforms and thats about it, as for ORT we ended up starting ours on the end of the first week, we did our first PEB on the second week, then again at like 6-8 week, and finished off around week 17-18.

Hope your stay is enjoyable, have fun......also good luck with the G-Bar....:D:D:D

[GreenLine]

If your agency believes that they are more important then someones family, then it sounds like an agency full of dicks.

Expecting a basic trainee to put forth the same efforts - whether after hours or not - as everyone else and to be an equal part of a team does not mean the agency thinks they are "more important" than someone's family. Everyone is there for a single reason, and if someone happens to live close by and can see thir family without detracting from their own or anyone else's training, great. But just because an agency expects the same from that person as everyone else, it doesn't make them an "agency full of dicks."

It sounds like the OP is going to weigh the circumstances before deciding, and that's all I was advocating.

[ask80]

Hey guys I am headed down to FLETC for CITP tomorrow. My understanding is that Monday is just a check in and get situated day. The first day of class is actually Tuesday. What is that first day of class like on Tuesday? When do you usually start ORT? When do you do the first PEB? Will that be in the first week? Any advise? Thanks!

just curious you've been an 1811 for 8 years and have to go through CITP again? that sucks...you'll do the PEB and ORT in the first week.

[1811Hopeful1]

Any one know if CITP is six days a week still or is back to five?

[miked6]

just curious you've been an 1811 for 8 years and have to go through CITP again? that sucks...you'll do the PEB and ORT in the first week.

I was a cop for 8 years, but was just hired as an 1811. Can see where that would be confusing, so I updated my profile accordingly.

[dpd0779]

What are the physical fitness standards? What tests do they administer?

[miked6]

What are the physical fitness standards? What tests do they administer?

At FLETC for CITP? It is my understanding you run the PEB on the first week and last week for a score. They are looking that you participate and show improvement. Some agencies establish their own criteria individually as well, but FLETC only requires participation. With that being said, 40% on the PEB, is the number that I keep hearing that is considered "passing" by FLETC standards. Other than that, I think you just have to put forward a solid effort during ORT, which is basically PT/DT, and occurs about 3 times per week.

http://www.fletc.gov/training/programs/physical-techniques-division/requirement-documents/physical-efficiency-battery-peb.html

[dpd0779]

CITP, I researched it a little, but the FLETC site looks about two years old. It doesn't say anything on there about the standards. There was another question someone posted about the course being 6 days a week or 5. Is it mon-fri still?

[miked6]

CITP, I researched it a little, but the FLETC site looks about two years old. It doesn't say anything on there about the standards. There was another question someone posted about the course being 6 days a week or 5. Is it mon-fri still?

My reporting instructions advised Monday-Friday, 730a-430p. I am curious about the roommate situation down there these days. I have heard they are doubling up rooms, but can't get confirmation on the specifics. I can handle sharing a bathroom, but sharing a room for 3mos would be tough.

[ask80]

FLETC is mon-fri 0730-1630. only 5 days a week. PEB tests are on the FLETC website. there is no standards for FLETC. all you have to do is participate in ORT (PT/DT). i'm not sure on the percentages you need overall. i don't think there is one since there were some pretty out of shape peoples in my class. your agency might do something about it but not FLETC.

i've heard most at the TAJ are doubled up. not sure if that's everyone at the TAJ. the other buildings i doubt they are doubled up because the room is too small for that. there are different dorm areas on FLETC. some you may have to share a bathroom. maybe you'll be lucky to get 95, like i was. get your own room and bathroom/shower, although a farther walk.

[ifitwhatyoufear]

I was wandering if you can have a George Foreman grill in your room?

[orlandofed5-0]

I was wandering if you can have a George Foreman grill in your room?

Technically your not supposed to nor are you to have hot plates.

[ifitwhatyoufear]

Thank you Orlandofed.

[Wrangler81]

hey all, what's the course of fire for citp, OR IS IT AGENCY SPECIFIC?

[ask80]

course of fire is 210 out of 300 to pass ranging from 3 yards to 25 yards, including barricade shooting. i'm not sure on the EXACT course. then you'll have to qual again at your agency specific course of fire during your addon course.

[Wilson]

Great thread here. I'm heading to FLETC next month for CITP. Has anyone brought a personal firearm with them? I'll be driving there and I don't travel unarmed.

I saw on the FLETC site that you have to check it in upon arrival and get it back when you graduate. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking for any personal experience or work-arounds for this situation. (I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO). Thanks.

[ICEAGENT]

Great thread here. I'm heading to FLETC next month for CITP. Has anyone brought a personal firearm with them? I'll be driving there and I don't travel unarmed.

I saw on the FLETC site that you have to check it in upon arrival and get it back when you graduate. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking for any personal experience or work-arounds for this situation. (I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO). Thanks.

I highly doubt there is a work-around for having a firearm on campus at FLETC. Active FLEO's are not allowed to carry on base so I don't see them letting a retired LEO do it. I recommend leaving the gun at home if you don't want to check it.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Great thread here. I'm heading to FLETC next month for CITP. Has anyone brought a personal firearm with them? I'll be driving there and I don't travel unarmed.

I saw on the FLETC site that you have to check it in upon arrival and get it back when you graduate. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking for any personal experience or work-arounds for this situation. (I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO). Thanks.

As ICEAGENT stated its pretty much a no go, i mean you could stuff it in your bag and leave it but then again you are taking a chance. I never ever go anywhere w/o my gun but i left it when i went to FLETC. I was told by an instructor at FLETC that if you ended back at your room with extra ammo from the range to hide it cause if the cleaning ladies saw it, they would report you.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO.

I am kind of confused by your profile, you state your a retired LEO but your profile states not employed in LE and not a sworn officer, and your a student.

I mean thats ok, but if your retired you can still put your experience and stuff on your profile.

:confused:

[1811Hopeful1]

I am kind of confused by your profile, you state your a retired LEO but your profile states not employed in LE and not a sworn officer, and your a student.

I mean thats ok, but if your retired you can still put your experience and stuff on your profile.

:confused:

+1
I was also confused because based on my recollection from your previous posts you were a LEO for ten or so years before being hired by the USSS. I have never heard of a department that has a ten year retirement unless you were medically retired and then I doubt USSS would hire you with their stringent medial requirements. Sounds more like you left after being vested but before retirement. Fell free to clarify if were off base.

[orlandofed5-0]

Great thread here. I'm heading to FLETC next month for CITP. Has anyone brought a personal firearm with them? I'll be driving there and I don't travel unarmed.

I saw on the FLETC site that you have to check it in upon arrival and get it back when you graduate. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking for any personal experience or work-arounds for this situation. (I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO). Thanks.

If your caught bring it in, they can do random searches of your vehicle, you will be asked to leave. Since you are a trainee and on probation most likely you will be fired. Also hr 218 does not apply to federal facilities.

[irishlad2nv]

Great thread here. I'm heading to FLETC next month for CITP. Has anyone brought a personal firearm with them? I'll be driving there and I don't travel unarmed.

I saw on the FLETC site that you have to check it in upon arrival and get it back when you graduate. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking for any personal experience or work-arounds for this situation. (I am covered under HR218 as a retired LEO). Thanks.

If this policy doesn't work for you, don't come to FLETC. No firearms are allowed on campus. End of story. If you are caught, be prepared to get kicked off and or fired. If you bring it, they can hold it for you for a certain timeline, however I have known them to make you mail it back to your house.

Confused as to you getting on with the USSS if you are retired LE?

[weasel3o3]

Is there a graduation at the end of CITP and agency specific training or just at the end of your agency specific training?

[Wilson]

I'm not looking to bring my weapon onto the campus. I know that would get me fired. I answered my own question when I remembered that I have an old friend that lives about40 minutes from FLETC, so I'll just leave it at his house.
I will have a retired LEO ID, and my dept has a 10 year retirement. I understand that doesn't matter for FLETC purposes.

And sorry about my generic profile, I never thought I'd be posting here when I filled it out, I just wanted to PM somebody that I thought I recognized.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Is there a graduation at the end of CITP and agency specific training or just at the end of your agency specific training?

Yes you will have a graduation for CITP.

[irishlad2nv]

I'm not looking to bring my weapon onto the campus. I know that would get me fired. I answered my own question when I remembered that I have an old friend that lives about40 minutes from FLETC, so I'll just leave it at his house.
I will have a retired LEO ID, and my dept has a 10 year retirement. I understand that doesn't matter for FLETC purposes.

And sorry about my generic profile, I never thought I'd be posting here when I filled it out, I just wanted to PM somebody that I thought I recognized.

Interesting. Both leaving your gun at a friends house and a police retirement offered at 10 yrs? To qualify under HR218 with retirement, doesn't it have to be employed as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of 15 years or more?

[K9346]

Interesting. Both leaving your gun at a friends house and a police retirement offered at 10 yrs? To qualify under HR218 with retirement, doesn't it have to be employed as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of 15 years or more?


Yes, read the text of the LEOSA. You have to have retired after 15 years, in good standing, with the agency. Just because the agency might offer a ten year retirment, I know in Oklahoma you are vested after 10 years and can collect a small pension, does not mean you qualify under the LEOSA.

Short answer, I would double check you carrying on your retirement creds.

[1811Hopeful1]

Yes, read the text of the LEOSA. You have to have retired after 15 years, in good standing, with the agency. Just because the agency might offer a ten year retirment, I know in Oklahoma you are vested after 10 years and can collect a small pension, does not mean you qualify under the LEOSA.

Short answer, I would double check you carrying on your retirement creds.

That was my point. In our state many agencies offer vesting at 5 years but full retirement is at 20+. If you leave after 5 years or 10 or even 15 that is NOT considered as having retired from the agency unless it was a medical retirement. If you leave with vesting it is just that you were vested but not retired. I am now a little skeptical that any agency actually offers a 10 year retirement with a full pension. Generally those that are vested do not get their small pension until age 50 or later. Big difference from a regular retirement.

But as you stated it doesn't qualify for carry anyway.

[Wilson]

You guys are right. I checked it out and it is 15 years, so I will fall short and have to rely on my state concealed weapons permit, which is valid in the parts of GA that lie outside the FLETC gate. I had not read the text of HR218until today. I'm comfortable leaving it at my friend's house, he is a cop and I will install a safety lock while it's in his safe. I just want to have it while I'm on the road to and from. Too bad FLETC does not recognize the 2nd amendment rights of its students, although I certainly understand from a liability perspective why they feel that way.

[irishlad2nv]

You don't get it. It's Federal Property and the Director of FLETC will not allow weapons on campus. Instructors are not even allowed to have weapons on the campus. It's about 2nd amendment rights or not. You aren't allowed on any federal property with a CCW.

Glad you read up on HR 218 so nothing happened to you though.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

You don't get it. It's Federal Property and the Director of FLETC will not allow weapons on campus. Instructors are not even allowed to have weapons on the campus. It's about 2nd amendment rights or not. You aren't allowed on any federal property with a CCW.

Glad you read up on HR 218 so nothing happened to you though.

X2..........................

LEAVE YOUR GUN AT HOME, WE ALL LOVE OUR GUNS BUT THIS IS THAT ONE SPOT YOU DONT NEED IT.

Dont worry FLETC SWAT will take care of you.

[ask80]

the only peoples allowed with guns on base are FLETC security... other than that you'll see a whole bunch of redguns...

[biggdawgdaddy]

The gun thing is about safety. They are doing role playing everywhere; and in all force on force training the one thing nobody wants is a REAL gun anywhere in the mix.

[GreenLine]

The gun thing is about safety. They are doing role playing everywhere; and in all force on force training the one thing nobody wants is a REAL gun anywhere in the mix.

+1. It has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. All we need is for some basic students to be doing a mock vehicle stop on a non-compliant role player in the parking lot of the FLETC Express and to have an armed student with a CCW walk out and 'react' in accordance with prior training. Red guns aren't always red at night.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Red guns aren't always red at night.

I had a blue gun. LOL:confused::D

[NY8739JR]

I had a blue gun. LOL:confused::D


yes..there are red AND blue guns..it dependeds on the agency/training program you are in.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

yes..there are red AND blue guns..it dependeds on the agency/training program you are in.

I know, HAHA funny me, I was joking....

Good Day Sir:D

[TJMS81]

We had a guy in our class bring his personal .45 because he miss read the website. It sat on the gun rack for about 5 weeks before he could take it to Chucktown and leave it with relatives.

[A1cop]

nobody cares at FLETC if you are on or off base. You never see the maids and it would be crazy to even think about trying to bribe one of them for anything. What do they care if they make you bed or not. the FLETC web posting only means its on your dime if you live off post. when you get off at 4:30 nobody cares what you do or where you go.

[orlandofed5-0]

nobody cares at FLETC if you are on or off base. You never see the maids and it would be crazy to even think about trying to bribe one of them for anything. What do they care if they make you bed or not. the FLETC web posting only means its on your dime if you live off post. when you get off at 4:30 nobody cares what you do or where you go.

Yeah but your agency might have another say so.

[thermal]

Hello,

Can any one tell me if CITP includes swimming i.e for ICE, NCIS, DSS or any other agency

[miked6]

Hello,

Can any one tell me if CITP includes swimming i.e for ICE, NCIS, DSS or any other agency

Nope, not part of the standard CITP cirriculum. Now your ORT instructor is free to PT the class in any manor they wish, which some have been known to use the pool for PT sessions. Most don't though.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Hello,

Can any one tell me if CITP includes swimming i.e for ICE, NCIS, DSS or any other agency

LMPT used the pool, we had water tactics. alot of us work water areas.

[SecretAsian2752]

Nope, not part of the standard CITP cirriculum. Now your ORT instructor is free to PT the class in any manor they wish, which some have been known to use the pool for PT sessions. Most don't though.

That would have made for a few laughs if my ORT instructor would have made us use the pool...considering one of my classmates couldn't even doggy paddle. Watching her attempt to swim at the pool next to the Taj was even funnier. Then again, we didn't even run that much....

[Up_On_Base]

LMPT used the pool, we had water tactics. alot of us work water areas.

I hear that LMPT is the best program at FLETC, I thought my mixed basic was OK but could be more detailed...thank god we had an add on program.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

I hear that LMPT is the best program at FLETC, I thought my mixed basic was OK but could be more detailed...thank god we had an add on program.

It was a challenging 18 weeks, had a blast and learned alot of good stuff. I cant wait to return for CITP one day.

LMPT's PT was demanding the shortest run we went on was atleast 3-4miles with the AR's or 870's sometimes we would even run with that Big A** rope.

we spent alot of time in camo in the woods, driving the 4x4 was fun, and the Marijuana gardens was good stuff.

[GreenLine]

LMPT used the pool, we had water tactics. alot of us work water areas.

NOAA and FWS also use the pool during their post-CITP add-on courses. FWS has a "dunker"-type apparatus that they use to teach trainees how to exit a submerged aircraft.

There is also a portion of FLETC's MLETP, or "boat school," which takes place in the pool. I think it was 3 days or so.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

NOAA and FWS also use the pool during their post-CITP add-on courses. FWS has a "dunker"-type apparatus that they use to teach trainees how to exit a submerged aircraft.

There is also a portion of FLETC's MLETP, or "boat school," which takes place in the pool. I think it was 3 days or so.

X2, good stuff

[Odin 2254]

How is the PT training for UPTP at FLETC. I'm scheduled to go in Sept for FPS.:) Thanks :D

[Twoisone]

How is the PT training for UPTP at FLETC. I'm scheduled to go in Sept for FPS.:) Thanks :D

A fair number of long runs (3+ miles at a shot), you will also spend a fair share of time doing the C-course, plus lots of matroom time. In short: come prepared.

[Odin 2254]

Twoisone thanks for the info. Just a guess, is the c course the confidence course. When do you take the PEB and what do FPS mean when I was told that they use FLETC standards? Thanks.

[Twoisone]

Twoisone thanks for the info. Just a guess, is the c course the confidence course. When do you take the PEB and what do FPS mean when I was told that they use FLETC standards? Thanks.

Yes: C-course = confidence course. You will take a fitness test more than likely for your first PT session, some classes have taken a "mid-term" pt test, then a final one. The FLETC PEB standards can be found here: http://www.fletc.gov/training/programs/physical-techniques-division/requirement-documents/physical-efficiency-battery-peb.html.

[SDCBP]

Just curious, is there any website or reference for a list of stuff to bring to FLETC? I would like to prepare in advance of the stuff I need to purchase.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

How is the PT training for UPTP at FLETC. I'm scheduled to go in Sept for FPS.:) Thanks :D

Come prepared and blow them away, My PT instructor kinda bashed on some of the UPTP classes, they werent really up to par.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Just curious, is there any website or reference for a list of stuff to bring to FLETC? I would like to prepare in advance of the stuff I need to purchase.

If you stay at the Taj, you will be good, if not bring a TV, mini fridge, possibly a microwave (not a must).

Get a bicycle,:D

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

P.S. You can rent the TV and Fridge and the FLETC store if you want, but I would just buy it or bring it.

[copbound]

Any info on the UPTP classes? How many tests? Hard/Easy? Multiple choice?

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

Any info on the UPTP classes? How many tests? Hard/Easy? Multiple choice?


Not on UPTP, but to reference to LMPT

We had 6 tests, difficulty average, yes to multiple choice.

As for the exams, they are not made to fail you, they are meant to challenge you and if you study and try your best you should have no problems.

Good Luck

[Milveteran]

Can you receive your GI Bill while attending UPTP?

[NY8739JR]

I doubt you will do the obstacle course.....the whole 3 months I was there, we were the only class I EVER saw on it. Oh, and ATF used it.

but its a really course!

[Milveteran]

What is the AIT training in Alexandria, VA after UPTP training consist of?

[orlandofed5-0]

What is the AIT training in Alexandria, VA after UPTP training consist of?

For what agency? And its not AIT.. Its FTO generally

[Milveteran]

what AITP for FPS?

[manstown]

Can you receive your GI Bill while attending UPTP?

Depends on the agency and the rep filling out the paperwork for you. I know quite a few that did get it and quite a few that didn't.

[JohnDoeCop]

I have been through 2 academies and got the GI Bill for both of them. Shouldn't be a problem getting it for FLETC.