..." when federal investigations" don't change things...

[DOAcop38]

I've noticed from time to time that posters will be quick to take the NON LEO viewpoint on this here on O.Com( anyone from students, to cop bashers, to even former and ex LEOS) People are quick to shout "racism" or police brutality- such is the nature of the "freedom" we enjoy in this country.

As I was looking over the issue of the latest local agency in L.A. County to be slammed by a federal investigation- the hard pressed Inglewood PD, a radio call of an officer "needs help" went out today around 1945 hrs. Seems some "innocent" victim of brutality decided to shoot at ,and ATTEMPTED to kill an Inglewood Police officer near 85th st and Crenshaw blvd.As I write this ,within the comfort of nearby"yuppie" westchester ,Ca, I can't help but WONDER if the Federal prosecutors, Federal Investigators ( FBI ,U.S. Atty Gen'l) ever bother to go out and SEE what the officers are up against BEFORE they render their "sweeping" decisions. OR if they even give a damn.....

Currently the IPD units have a perimeter up,and are searching for the armed suspect( barely a week after their last OIS), something that is all to routine in a city where the officers are stuck with "shoot first or end up dead" choices. This is often the way it is here in many parts of Southern California......

[LAschoolCop]

I was watching the news and they said police shot an innocent man on a traffic stop!!! When was the last time any of us shot a person on a traffic stop who was respectful and handed over all of his information and sat quietly?? I really dont understand what they mean by innocent?

If you have to break leather then the person in the car or anywhere else is doing something that may be endangering my life or somebody else around.

[Bully]

The idea of these fed investigations cracks me up. These guys walk around in pressed suits and shiny shoes. They drink Starbucks in the yuppie neighborhoods and wouldn't know a ghetto if it jumped up and bit them. I never thought I would say it but they're bigger attention whores than the LAPD.

The FBI is basically H&R Block or the Geek Squad with a gun. If you're called to help them kick in a door, the safest place is the next zip code.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike all feds. I do respect the DEA, ICE and Border Patrol though. Those guys get their boots dirty.

Consent decrees are the biggest sham on the planet. Basically, the armed H&R Block employee tells your dept that you're ate up and to change things. The dept can say no, but will be threatened with sanctions like the U.S. has on Cuba. The dept then agrees because they're worried about losing money. Then a bunch of "Consent Decree" offices are put in the different stations where the consent decree people make at least twice as much as the officers they baby sit. Then a bunch of new forms and procedures are created causing the beat cop to be out of the field for hours on a simple arrest. Now you don't have enough cops on the street to handle calls and crime goes butt nutty. Or, you get some cops that think it's too much of a pain to arrest someone, so they decide to find a place to hide and crime goes butt nutty.

So either way, Consent Decrees make crime go butt nutty. If there needs to be an investigation of a city agency, make the sheriff do it. After all, the sheriff is the top cop in the county and at least his deputies get their boots dirty and chew some of the same ground as the city cops they investigate. Don't ask who investigates the sheriff's depts, we're perfect the way we are.

OK, I'm done with my rant..............Next

[mdrdep]

I agree with Bully

[RoadKingTrooper]

I agree with Bully

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[ateamer]

Bully said it well. The FBI is hugely overrated. They're great at white collar crime - well, pretty good anyway, most of the time. They have huge egos, though, and get their rocks off on screwing with local police officers and departments. If a department has a problem, the community can change things through the election process - get in new council members, who will bring a new chief and change the department. If they don't vote for change and use the political process, then that is a good indication that the community is satisfied with the department.

Wasn't the FBi originally just there for a few limited federal crimes and to serve as an information clearinghouse?