Lapd?

[ex-detroitpd]

ex-detroit pd thinking about lapd any info. would be great. and by the way, I'm not going to see or be subjected to anything different than what I dealt with in detroit. just asking po's input on the lapd. thanks.

[LA Copper]

What kind of info would you like?


What she said...

[08duramax]

The search feature is your friend

[LA Copper]

ex-detroit pd thinking about lapd any info. would be great. and by the way, I'm not going to see or be subjected to anything different than what I dealt with in detroit. just asking po's input on the lapd. thanks.

I tried to respond to your PM but the system said that you weren't accepting PMs. Any idea what that's about?

[AWarr]

Yeah, for sure...

He's totally a disgruntled employee

[DOAcop38]

ex-detroit pd thinking about lapd any info. would be great. and by the way, I'm not going to see or be subjected to anything different than what I dealt with in detroit. just asking po's input on the lapd. thanks.

.. you mean other than a populace that respects its police dept MORE(not by much , but enough), BETTER tactics, and better pay/ work environment ?????? Things are different from the "D" out here..( and "yes" I've hung out in that "lovely" burg,mainly in greek town to avoid the serious crime, when visiting family there and "killa' Flint,MI )

Had an academy classmate that was "ex NYPD"- he blew the same smoke about seeing it all before ,UNTIL he landed in 77th Area as a P-I !! True, violence and crime is the same all over, but the players and the way its dealt with are different from one location and state to another. Sell your prior experience, but don't think it buys you more ( in terms of "rep" or skill ) than it does- you'll learn and see things that your prior L.E. experience will help you with, but that doesn't mean it will put you ahead of the crowd on alot of things.

Go to the city web site , - www.joinlapd.com - www.lacity.org - then to "jobs available",and on to the public safety site .you can start applying , and see where it takes you. The economy is a pinch ,but the city is still looking for good candidates, and thats where you sell your prior L.E. work history) Pluses-

1) Large Ca Dept (+/- 9,900 the room to grow),in the top 4 or 5 agencies in the nation

2) 21 geographical stations ( areas) to work within almost 470 sq miles

3) good track history of promotional opps ( you don't have to rot away in patrol)

4)decent pay- $58K to $87K/yr ( before longevity,bonuses, and promotions)

5) decent, FUNDED retirement ( Tier 5 , with DROP program)

6) over 250 details to work, historic and professional units like METRO div ( home of SWAT) ,Robbery Homicide div,etc

Minuses

*One of the lowest officer to citizen ratios of a major U.S. city

* Still under the Federal "consent decree" B.S.

* fickle uber lip service liberal local gov't

* over worked. Period .( the city is hellbent on opening new patrol area stations , with a handful of officers to work them....)

heck,FWIW, you can PM your name and info and I'll submit you as a candidate- when you complete the process and get the job offer, I'll get $1,000 ( actually $675 after taxes, but I'll still split it with you 50/50)

Hit up "berlioz" here on this site for more- he's starting to "dry" behind the ears into a rough and rowdy P-2

[Berlioz]

Thanks for the shout DOA! Ex-Detroitpd, why dont you start out by telling what you exactly want to know and what it was you were subjected to in mo-town.

LAPD is a place where if you ask 1000 different coppers, youll get 1000 different opinions. Generally, its a pretty good place to work and Ive been treated well in my short time with the Dept. There are 21 different patrol divisions, which is like 21 mini departments. Morale at division A can be in the toilet while officers at division B are loving life, it mainly comes down to supervision and command staff. Equipment is good, special assignments are usually permanent (ex. a motor is always a motor until he voluntarily leaves the spot or quits).

LAPD is paper happy with a lot of nonsensicle nonsense being done in the name of CYA. Our PSB (IA) is probably the largest division in the dept (why is everything being called "group" nowadays??) and they are known for their stings which in turn has created some pretty paranoid cops.

Ive left out a lot but feel free to hit me up for any info. There are LAPD officers on here who have a much greater knowledge and experience with the dept. Good luck.

With regard to what DOA said about us being overworked, its true but its not an even spread...some places are quiet, affluent divisions while others are fast,violent divisions.

[Berlioz]

So, I just typed that long response and THEN figured out homeboy was banned...sigh..:rolleyes:

[IronBruin]

So, I just typed that long response and THEN figured out homeboy was banned...sigh..:rolleyes:

You and DOA both:o

[FJDave]

Whoa....switcher's banned too!

[beachcop05]

Why do you keep editing all your posts and there's nothing there except for an officer.com link?

[beachcop05]

my above question was intended for switcher

[beachcop05]

.. you mean other than a populace that respects its police dept MORE(not by much , but enough), BETTER tactics, and better pay/ work environment ?????? Things are different from the "D" out here..( and "yes" I've hung out in that "lovely" burg,mainly in greek town to avoid the serious crime, when visiting family there and "killa' Flint,MI )

Had an academy classmate that was "ex NYPD"- he blew the same smoke about seeing it all before ,UNTIL he landed in 77th Area as a P-I !! True, violence and crime is the same all over, but the players and the way its dealt with are different from one location and state to another. Sell your prior experience, but don't think it buys you more ( in terms of "rep" or skill ) than it does- you'll learn and see things that your prior L.E. experience will help you with, but that doesn't mean it will put you ahead of the crowd on alot of things.

Go to the city web site , - www.joinlapd.com - www.lacity.org - then to "jobs available",and on to the public safety site .you can start applying , and see where it takes you. The economy is a pinch ,but the city is still looking for good candidates, and thats where you sell your prior L.E. work history) Pluses-

1) Large Ca Dept (+/- 9,900 the room to grow),in the top 4 or 5 agencies in the nation

2) 21 geographical stations ( areas) to work within almost 470 sq miles

3) good track history of promotional opps ( you don't have to rot away in patrol)

4)decent pay- $58K to $87K/yr ( before longevity,bonuses, and promotions)

5) decent, FUNDED retirement ( Tier 5 , with DROP program)

6) over 250 details to work, historic and professional units like METRO div ( home of SWAT) ,Robbery Homicide div,etc

Minuses

*One of the lowest officer to citizen ratios of a major U.S. city

* Still under the Federal "consent decree" B.S.

* fickle uber lip service liberal local gov't

* over worked. Period .( the city is hellbent on opening new patrol area stations , with a handful of officers to work them....)

heck,FWIW, you can PM your name and info and I'll submit you as a candidate- when you complete the process and get the job offer, I'll get $1,000 ( actually $675 after taxes, but I'll still split it with you 50/50)

Hit up "berlioz" here on this site for more- he's starting to "dry" behind the ears into a rough and rowdy P-2

good answer DOA! plus 1!

[GrndPnd0311]

Keep the answers coming! Although exdetriotpd is banned I find all of your answers beneficial to me and my endeavor of joining LAPD - as soon as they lift this expedited process ban that is.:(

[Code Seven]

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[GrndPnd0311]

Why are you looking to move from Maryland to Los Angeles?
My soon-to-be wife was accepted to USC grad school and wants to work out that way. We both graduated from Maryland and want a change of scenery and USC is one of the best schools for her program. Plus, it allows me to dust off the ole' surfboard!

Oh, and LAPD is the department I have been eyeballing since I was stationed in CA. One of the reasons it has a bona fide Terrorism Unit which was my emphasis in college, so thats appealing to me as well.

[skoonz]

Hello,

Expedited testing is now available for out of state candidates only.

skoonz

[AWarr]

Im in the hiring process and I just got a letter in the mail from the LAPD.

Seems as though budget problems are slowing down their hiring spree just a bit. However, they explicitly stated that they are NO on a hiring freeze...

[AWarr]

USC is one of the best schools for her program.

Whats is your wife getting her degree in?

[EricDel]

Had an academy classmate that was "ex NYPD"- he blew the same smoke about seeing it all before ,UNTIL he landed in 77th Area as a P-I !! True, violence and crime is the same all over, but the players and the way its dealt with are different from one location and state to another. Sell your prior experience, but don't think it buys you more ( in terms of "rep" or skill ) than it does- you'll learn and see things that your prior L.E. experience will help you with, but that doesn't mean it will put you ahead of the crowd on alot of things.


Just wondering what would you say is the biggest difference from the bad parts of LA (77th, Southeast, etc) compared to parts of Bronx for NYPD, Northeast for Philly PD, and the westside for Baltimore. I believe you, just always interested in hearing peoples thoughts on the differences.

[beachcop05]

My soon-to-be wife was accepted to USC grad school and wants to work out that way. We both graduated from Maryland and want a change of scenery and USC is one of the best schools for her program. Plus, it allows me to dust off the ole' surfboard!

Oh, and LAPD is the department I have been eyeballing since I was stationed in CA. One of the reasons it has a bona fide Terrorism Unit which was my emphasis in college, so thats appealing to me as well.

CA isn't a great place to come to now, I'm looking to get out of here.

You realize that terrorism unit would be something that might take you 10 years plus to get into to?

[archercapt32]

Beachcop05 where are you thinking of heading?

[CalPolyGrad]

Im in the hiring process and I just got a letter in the mail from the LAPD.

Seems as though budget problems are slowing down their hiring spree just a bit. However, they explicitly stated that they are NO on a hiring freeze...

When did you get the letter?

[AWarr]

When did you get the letter?


April 2, 2009

To: Public Safety Officer Candidates,

Thank you for applying to a public safety officer position with the City of Los Angeles Department.

Based on recent reports in the media, you are aware of the City of Los Angeles' current budgetary concerns. Although this nos NOT resulted in a hiring freeze for public safety officer positions, it has necessitated that City departemtns conduct an assessment of their budgetary situation. To this end, the Departments noted above have reviewed their public safety officer hiring goals and objectives and report that hiring will be held to a minimum through the remainder of the fiscal year. Consequently, you may experience a delay in the hiring process

Thank you and good luck as you pursue your career goals.

John Doe
Chief, Backgrounds Investigation Division
Public Safety Bureau



Either they are going on budget freezes, or this is one hell of a way to tell me, "you suck at life, we don't want to hire you."

[08duramax]

Where in the process were you when you got this?

[Ninja1234]

CA isn't a great place to come to now, I'm looking to get out of here.

You realize that terrorism unit would be something that might take you 10 years plus to get into to?

DONT MOVE TO ARIZONA. ITS WORSE

[Ninja1234]

Im in the hiring process and I just got a letter in the mail from the LAPD.

Seems as though budget problems are slowing down their hiring spree just a bit. However, they explicitly stated that they are NO on a hiring freeze...

I have my medical/written psych/PAT2 coming up this week. They cant wait to get me in there. Im suprised about that letter.

[LA_Backgrounds]

Either they are going on budget freezes, or this is one hell of a way to tell me, "you suck at life, we don't want to hire you."

Yes, I'm curious about this letter as well. No one I know has gotten one.

[IronBruin]

Yes, I'm curious about this letter as well. No one I know has gotten one.

I got one :p

[GrndPnd0311]

Whats is your wife getting her degree in?

Education Counseling.

Beachcop:

You realize that terrorism unit would be something that might take you 10 years plus to get into to?

Regardless of how long it takes I will shoot for it. I think my background will push it along.....

[Ninja1234]

I got one :p

IronBruin, dont you already have a academy date?

[IronBruin]

IronBruin, dont you already have a academy date?

Yes, but it's still over a month away, so who knows what will happen before then. Luckily I am very close to being hired with two other agencies.

[beachcop05]

Education Counseling.

Beachcop:


Regardless of how long it takes I will shoot for it. I think my background will push it along.....

Then this tells me you don't really understand local PD's yet. You start from the bottom no matter what, you do at least several years in patrol before anything. All they care about is seniority within their dept. Believe me, I have the background and can speak a foreign language, and in my dept I can't even dream of getting into our unit until 15-20 years on.

It's all seniority my friend, that's all they care about. And you need to have this humble attitude going in to succeed.

[GrndPnd0311]

Then this tells me you don't really understand local PD's yet. You start from the bottom no matter what, you do at least several years in patrol before anything. All they care about is seniority within their dept. Believe me, I have the background and can speak a foreign language, and in my dept I can't even dream of getting into our unit until 15-20 years on.

It's all seniority my friend, that's all they care about. And you need to have this humble attitude going in to succeed.

There is a difference between naivety and being optimistic. I understand it may take 10-20 years...its the same thing with SWAT. Doesn’t mean I am not going to improve myself to achieve my desired outcome. If it doesn’t happen, then I am sure an opportunity will present itself whether it be federal or another locale.

I appreciate the advice, but the CT thing is an end goal. Everything in between I will enjoy as well and it will be great experience to reflect on.

[Code Seven]

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[Ninja1234]

Yes, but it's still over a month away, so who knows what will happen before then. Luckily I am very close to being hired with two other agencies.

You already have a academy date. You are in. I woudnt worry about the other 2 agencies, unless they pay better lol

[Ninja1234]

Either they are going on budget freezes, or this is one hell of a way to tell me, "you suck at life, we don't want to hire you."

Is this a BS letter? The people on policebackground.net(a LAPD forum) sure think so!

[CH47Doc]

The Chiefs name is John Doe?

[IronBruin]

You already have a academy date. You are in. I woudnt worry about the other 2 agencies, unless they pay better lol

They do:D

[AWarr]

The Chiefs name is John Doe?

No its not.
Since I was mailed a letter, I had to type it all out on the computer.
Since I didnt find it necessary to include his name on the post, I figured I give him a factitious name.

[nobodyjr]

Then this tells me you don't really understand local PD's yet. You start from the bottom no matter what, you do at least several years in patrol before anything. All they care about is seniority within their dept. Believe me, I have the background and can speak a foreign language, and in my dept I can't even dream of getting into our unit until 15-20 years on.

It's all seniority my friend, that's all they care about. And you need to have this humble attitude going in to succeed.

Exactly beachcop. By the time in a local PD he gets to a place where he can use his terrorism background it will be so dated it won't be of much value anyways. I think that's one of those jobs (like many rare specialist positions) that even on a big agency you get when you are just in the right place in the right time... some people are just never going to have the opportunity. Some of those positions stay filled by the same people for decades sometimes until they retire or die.

If you really want to do terrorism than go FBI. Terrorism type stuff is not generally LE work... it's more intel work. If you want to push a black and white (which is a blast), go for a local PD.

[Ninja1234]

No its not.
Since I was mailed a letter, I had to type it all out on the computer.
Since I didnt find it necessary to include his name on the post, I figured I give him a factitious name.

Did you also apply to LA Port and or LAX PD? That letter could be for them. I contacted LAPD and everything is moving foward as normal. I talked to a BG investigator and mentor. They have heard nothing of this.

[GrndPnd0311]

Exactly beachcop. By the time in a local PD he gets to a place where he can use his terrorism background it will be so dated it won't be of much value anyways. I think that's one of those jobs (like many rare specialist positions) that even on a big agency you get when you are just in the right place in the right time... some people are just never going to have the opportunity. Some of those positions stay filled by the same people for decades sometimes until they retire or die.

If you really want to do terrorism than go FBI. Terrorism type stuff is not generally LE work... it's more intel work. If you want to push a black and white (which is a blast), go for a local PD.
I appreciate the input from both of you as it is very beneficial, but I believe you are missing my point. CT is a desired end goal. It is not my motivation for joining LAPD or any department for that matter. Police work, ultimately, is my motivation for wanting to be a police officer. If I dont make it to a CT unit, so be it, there are plenty of avenues I can pursue.

[DOAcop38]

Keep the answers coming! Although exdetriotpd is banned I find all of your answers beneficial to me and my endeavor of joining LAPD - as soon as they lift this expedited process ban that is.:(

GP0311 - Not interested in PG Co. The B' M'ore C'areful , or Baltimore Co.PDs????? funny, but about a yr ago they were even going out of state to look for applicants! Well welcome if you are coming out( hit O.Com and look at some of the other local L.A. county and Orange Co.agencies in the California section, or go to www.post.ca.gov for job listings)

[JerzeyCop609]

Hey guys, question. I take my oral psyc this Thur for LAPD. How long till after I pass that would you guesstimate Ill get certified and called with my academy start date? Ive been a cop in Jersey for 10 years and Ive already passed CA POST so Ill be coming over on the lateral program. I pased everything else, Written, Oral, Poly, Medical, Written Psyc, Background Initial and Background Final. All thats left is Oral psyc and a call by my BI to my dept to talk to my direct supervisors including my Sgt, Lt and Capt. BI told me today that granted I pass oral psyc then I should have start date in beginning of June. 4-6 weeks of classroom attired in business casual and then I graduate with class and hit the street. ANy info would be appreciatted, thanx guys and gals.

[Code Seven]

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[JerzeyCop609]

I actually grew up out there. I somehow ended up married and a cop on the East coast. Well Im divorced and I want to come home lol

[Code Seven]

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[JerzeyCop609]

NJ is similar to East Germany lol, Im climbing the wall and escaping. COde 7,Are you LAPD or another CA AGency?

[Code Seven]

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[JerzeyCop609]

10-4 Sarge

[AWarr]

Did you also apply to LA Port and or LAX PD? That letter could be for them. I contacted LAPD and everything is moving foward as normal. I talked to a BG investigator and mentor. They have heard nothing of this.

I applied to all three....

[DOAcop38]

NJ is similar to East Germany lol, Im climbing the wall and escaping. COde 7,Are you LAPD or another CA AGency?

" you know the best thing about flying away from the eastcoast? you don't have to land in New Jerrrr -seeeeyyyy!"...... NY Gov. Patterson...
:D:D:D

welcome home to where the sewer meets the sea, and every crack head is a movie star,driving a high end car with expired registration........

[JerzeyCop609]

Sounds like ATlantic City out here lol. Gambling, Casinos, Shows, Famous People along with Gangmembers, drug dealers, the mob and no one has a drivers license, insurance or a registered car but hey its job security right lol

[Ninja1234]

I applied to all three....

Well there is your answer. That lett you got is not from LAPD. Its either Port or LAX

[GrndPnd0311]

Any word as to when they might begin expedited testing again?

[GrndPnd0311]

While looking at some of the other departments in the vicinity of LA I have noticed that there are a few municipalities with their own LE agencies but are within LAPD jurisdiction. My question is how does this work? i.e. does LAPD trump the municipality department in certain instances and are those 'local' officers confined to their 'box' so to speak?

Just trying to get a feel for the area while I weigh all my options if LAPD decides to stop the expedited process indefinitely.

[IrishLacrosse]

I want to be LAPD only if it's exactly like the show Southland.:rolleyes:

[pulicords]

While looking at some of the other departments in the vicinity of LA I have noticed that there are a few municipalities with their own LE agencies but are within LAPD jurisdiction. My question is how does this work? i.e. does LAPD trump the municipality department in certain instances and are those 'local' officers confined to their 'box' so to speak?

While some cities might have borders that adjoin others', every incorporated jurisdiction (municipality) has the right to either form it's own police agency or contract with another (usually the county sheriff's department). That agency has the same peace officer authority as the larger agency that shares their border.

Our peace officer status (authority) is defined by the state Penal Code. While some departments might share "territory" (ie: There are many municipalities located within the county and smaller agencies might request assistance from their sheriff's department for certain services.) no agency "trumps" another jurisdiction by reason of size or proximity.

Example: The City of San Fernando is approximately 2.42 square miles in size and has approximately 30 sworn officers serving the residents of it's incorporated municipality. Although the city is literally surrounded by the City of Los Angeles, San Fernando has it's own city government, municipal codes and is totally independent from the City of Los Angeles. LAPD officers and SFPD officers have the same peace officer authority (statewide), but have primary investigative responsibility only within their own city's borders, not that of their neighboring jurisdiction. Both cities are located within the County of Los Angeles and while the Sheriff's Department has authority to investigate criminal activity countywide, it's primary investigative authority concerns the unincorporated areas of the county.

[Code Seven]

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[pulicords]

Are you talking about places like Beverly Hills and Santa Monica? They are cities independent of Los Angeles. They have their own city government and police departments.

Their officers are also generally acknowledged to have better pay, benefits, equipment and training (opportunities) than officers working for the much larger agency (LAPD) that surrounds them. ;)

[GrndPnd0311]

Are you talking about places like Beverly Hills and Santa Monica? They are cities independent of Los Angeles. They have their own city government and police departments.

More so municipalities like Hawthorne and Inglewood. Thank you for the answers.

[GrndPnd0311]

It appears that every department within a logical distance of driving from USC is closed to accepting apps at this time. Hope that stimulus package hits soon!

[IronBruin]

It appears that every department within a logical distance of driving from USC is closed to accepting apps at this time. Hope that stimulus package hits soon!

You're going to be living at/near USC?:eek:

[Copp'rPenny]

Spoken like a true Bruin! ;)

[DOAcop38]

While looking at some of the other departments in the vicinity of LA I have noticed that there are a few municipalities with their own LE agencies but are within LAPD jurisdiction. My question is how does this work? i.e. does LAPD trump the municipality department in certain instances and are those 'local' officers confined to their 'box' so to speak?

Just trying to get a feel for the area while I weigh all my options if LAPD decides to stop the expedited process indefinitely.

The "suburban PDs" around the City of L.A. are TOTALLY independent, and operate( mainly) within their own jursidictional / city boundaries. Because much of So.Cal is crowded, it is routine that a dept, like a san fernando city Pd might stop a vehicle within LAPD area, or LAPD might get a "flag down" ( street contact) by a citizen to report a crime in progress, even though they are on the "border" or driving thru Beverly Hills !

The usual rule of thumb is that Officers, including LAPD ,have jurisdictional response up to a mile from the nearest border of their own jurisdictional boundary, or full authority to act on a crime if the incident occurs within their jurisdiction and they are following up on it, or continuously investigate, which is WHY you see officers in California pursuing people as far as the gas in their cars will last.With Our Ca. laws, All police officers here have full authority throughout the entire state itself to investigate crimes.


LAPD most certainly DOES NOT "trump" other police agencies,nor do other agencies LAPD! Sans any MOA's/MOU's or mutual aid, its basically a call and request if something is needed, and most agencies will contact the nearest other agency to take the lead on an investigation ,if the incident ends up in another city outside their own. everyone here will basically assist another dept if called upon ( and units are availble)

The one thing LAPD ALWAYS brings to the proverbial "table" is shear #s, a Large SWAT contingent, Helicopters, and a solid investigative team( If LASD Dets aren't available).If the incident is serious enough,a Watch Commander from a dept like Culver City PD can call LAPD , and Pacific Division,West L.A division, and Wilshire div. officer can be deployed- this is also the case if LAPD needs aid( like in the '92 riots)

And like an earlier post, some of the suburban PDs do have better work environments,perks and equip than LAPD, but they also have as much ( or worse) internal issues- everything considered ,Stay interested in LAPD ,but try :

1) LASD - www.lasd.org ( $56-90K/yr)

2) Santa Monica PD - http://santamonicapd.org ($67K to $84K/yr)

3) Inglewood PD - www.inglewoodpd.org ($55K to $72K/yr)

4) Torrance PD - http://torrnet.com/TPD/97.htm ($64K to $83K/yr)

5) culver city PD -www.culvercity.org ($62K to $91K/yr)

** all of the above are very popular choices, and they are currently hiring! Put in your appts ASAP!

[DOAcop38]

While looking at some of the other departments in the vicinity of LA I have noticed that there are a few municipalities with their own LE agencies but are within LAPD jurisdiction. My question is how does this work? i.e. does LAPD trump the municipality department in certain instances and are those 'local' officers confined to their 'box' so to speak?

Just trying to get a feel for the area while I weigh all my options if LAPD decides to stop the expedited process indefinitely.

The "suburban PDs" around the City of L.A. are TOTALLY independent, and operate( mainly) within their own jursidictional / city boundaries. Because much of So.Cal is crowded, it is routine that a dept, like a san fernando city Pd might stop a vehicle within LAPD area, or LAPD might get a "flag down" ( street contact) by a citizen to report a crime in progress, even though they are on the "border" or driving thru Beverly Hills !

The usual rule of thumb is that Officers, including LAPD ,have jurisdictional response up to a mile from the nearest border of their own jurisdictional boundary, or full authority to act on a crime if the incident occurs within their jurisdiction and they are following up on it, or continuously investigate, which is WHY you see officers in California pursuing people as far as the gas in their cars will last.With Our Ca. laws, All police officers here have full authority throughout the entire state itself to investigate crimes.


LAPD most certainly DOES NOT "trump" other police agencies,nor do other agencies LAPD! Sans any MOA's/MOU's or mutual aid, its basically a call and request if something is needed, and most agencies will contact the nearest other agency to take the lead on an investigation ,if the incident ends up in another city outside their own. everyone here will basically assist another dept if called upon ( and units are availble)

The one thing LAPD ALWAYS brings to the proverbial "table" is shear #s, a Large SWAT contingent, Helicopters, and a solid investigative team( If LASD Dets aren't available).If the incident is serious enough,a Watch Commander from a dept like Culver City PD can call LAPD , and Pacific Division,West L.A division, and Wilshire div. officer can be deployed- this is also the case if LAPD needs aid( like in the '92 riots)

And like an earlier post, some of the suburban PDs do have better work environments,perks and equip than LAPD, but they also have as much ( or worse) internal issues- everything considered ,Stay interested in LAPD ,but try :

1) LASD - www.lasd.org ( $56-90K/yr)

2) Santa Monica PD - http://santamonicapd.org ($67K to $84K/yr)

3) Inglewood PD - www.inglewoodpd.org ($55K to $72K/yr)

4) Torrance PD - http://torrnet.com/TPD/97.htm ($64K to $83K/yr)

5) culver city PD -www.culvercity.org ($62K to $91K/yr)

** all of the above are very popular choices, and they are currently hiring! Put in your appts ASAP!

[DOAcop38]

While looking at some of the other departments in the vicinity of LA I have noticed that there are a few municipalities with their own LE agencies but are within LAPD jurisdiction. My question is how does this work? i.e. does LAPD trump the municipality department in certain instances and are those 'local' officers confined to their 'box' so to speak?

Just trying to get a feel for the area while I weigh all my options if LAPD decides to stop the expedited process indefinitely.

The "suburban PDs" around the City of L.A. are TOTALLY independent, and operate( mainly) within their own jursidictional / city boundaries. Because much of So.Cal is crowded, it is routine that a dept, like a san fernando city Pd might stop a vehicle within LAPD area, or LAPD might get a "flag down" ( street contact) by a citizen to report a crime in progress, even though they are on the "border" or driving thru Beverly Hills !

The usual rule of thumb is that Officers, including LAPD ,have jurisdictional response up to a mile from the nearest border of their own jurisdictional boundary, or full authority to act on a crime if the incident occurs within their jurisdiction and they are following up on it, or continuously investigate, which is WHY you see officers in California pursuing people as far as the gas in their cars will last.With Our Ca. laws, All police officers here have full authority throughout the entire state itself to investigate crimes.


LAPD most certainly DOES NOT "trump" other police agencies,nor do other agencies LAPD! Sans any MOA's/MOU's or mutual aid, its basically a call and request if something is needed, and most agencies will contact the nearest other agency to take the lead on an investigation ,if the incident ends up in another city outside their own. everyone here will basically assist another dept if called upon ( and units are availble)

The one thing LAPD ALWAYS brings to the proverbial "table" is shear #s, a Large SWAT contingent, Helicopters, and a solid investigative team( If LASD Dets aren't available).If the incident is serious enough,a Watch Commander from a dept like Culver City PD can call LAPD , and Pacific Division,West L.A division, and Wilshire div. officer can be deployed- this is also the case if LAPD needs aid( like in the '92 riots)

And like an earlier post, some of the suburban PDs do have better work environments,perks and equip than LAPD, but they also have as much ( or worse) internal issues- everything considered ,Stay interested in LAPD ,but try :

1) LASD - www.lasd.org ( $56-90K/yr)

2) Santa Monica PD - http://santamonicapd.org ($67K to $84K/yr)

3) Inglewood PD - www.inglewoodpd.org ($55K to $72K/yr)

4) Torrance PD - http://torrnet.com/TPD/97.htm ($64K to $83K/yr)

5) culver city PD -www.culvercity.org ($62K to $91K/yr)

** all of the above are very popular choices, and they are currently hiring! Put in your appts ASAP!

[GrndPnd0311]

The "suburban PDs" around the City of L.A. are TOTALLY independent, and operate( mainly) within their own jursidictional / city boundaries. Because much of So.Cal is crowded, it is routine that a dept, like a san fernando city Pd might stop a vehicle within LAPD area, or LAPD might get a "flag down" ( street contact) by a citizen to report a crime in progress, even though they are on the "border" or driving thru Beverly Hills !

The usual rule of thumb is that Officers, including LAPD ,have jurisdictional response up to a mile from the nearest border of their own jurisdictional boundary, or full authority to act on a crime if the incident occurs within their jurisdiction and they are following up on it, or continuously investigate, which is WHY you see officers in California pursuing people as far as the gas in their cars will last.With Our Ca. laws, All police officers here have full authority throughout the entire state itself to investigate crimes.


LAPD most certainly DOES NOT "trump" other police agencies,nor do other agencies LAPD! Sans any MOA's/MOU's or mutual aid, its basically a call and request if something is needed, and most agencies will contact the nearest other agency to take the lead on an investigation ,if the incident ends up in another city outside their own. everyone here will basically assist another dept if called upon ( and units are availble)

The one thing LAPD ALWAYS brings to the proverbial "table" is shear #s, a Large SWAT contingent, Helicopters, and a solid investigative team( If LASD Dets aren't available).If the incident is serious enough,a Watch Commander from a dept like Culver City PD can call LAPD , and Pacific Division,West L.A division, and Wilshire div. officer can be deployed- this is also the case if LAPD needs aid( like in the '92 riots)

And like an earlier post, some of the suburban PDs do have better work environments,perks and equip than LAPD, but they also have as much ( or worse) internal issues- everything considered ,Stay interested in LAPD ,but try :

1) LASD - www.lasd.org ( $56-90K/yr)

2) Santa Monica PD - http://santamonicapd.org ($67K to $84K/yr)

3) Inglewood PD - www.inglewoodpd.org ($55K to $72K/yr)

4) Torrance PD - http://torrnet.com/TPD/97.htm ($64K to $83K/yr)

5) culver city PD -www.culvercity.org ($62K to $91K/yr)

** all of the above are very popular choices, and they are currently hiring! Put in your appts ASAP!

Thank you very much sir for all the input. I have checked with a few of those that you mentioned but I will definitely try the others! And thank you for the clarification on the jurisdictions.

[GrndPnd0311]

You're going to be living at/near USC?:eek:
I hear its not the greatest of areas and believe me I have voiced my opinion. But, the wife-to-be does not want to sacrifice distance for better living.:rolleyes:

[LA Copper]

I hear its not the greatest of areas and believe me I have voiced my opinion. But, the wife-to-be does not want to sacrifice distance for better living.:rolleyes:


It's not just better living, it's "safer" living!

[GrndPnd0311]

It's not just better living, it's "safer" living!

It has been a sticking issue in the GrndPnd household. I just hope she snaps to her senses once we look at some of these areas and the suburbia goggles come off.

[Code Seven]

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[GrndPnd0311]

Ha ha. Make sure you "accidentally" drive into the heart of South Central. Where is your wife from originally?

Mayberry, Maryland.

[Code Seven]

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[FJDave]

My OIS was across the street from USC. NOT a good area. Go further west, or to suburbia.....unfortunately, that means driving.

[GrndPnd0311]

Looks like a very nice place on Google Maps.
Ha! That was my bad attempt at a joke but turns out there really IS a Mayberry, MD! Who knew?! She grew up in Ellicott City, MD...a far out suburb of Baltimore.

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[GrndPnd0311]

I wasn't sure if you were referring to the fictional Mayberry or not. Ellicott City also looks like a nice place. Lots of trees, space, and large lots. Also:
Yup...

Rank County Median Household Income
1 Loudoun County, Virginia $107,207
2 Fairfax County, Virginia $105,241
3 Howard County, Maryland $101,672
4 Somerset County, New Jersey $97,658
5 Morris County, New Jersey $94,684
6 Douglas County, Colorado $92,824
7 Montgomery County, Maryland $91,835
8 Nassau County, New York $89,782
9 Prince William County, Virginia $87,243
10 Santa Clara County, California $84,360

Definitely not where I grew up. I think she will be in for a rude awaking.

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[DOAcop38]

This is the USC Area.

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Code_Seven/USC-Area.jpg

LOLOLOLOL!!! "But" you left out the night scene( with the yellow crime scene tape, the gunshot victims lying on the sidewalk, the 415 gang groups hangin out on the corners, the multi-car traffic collisions with unlic'd /DUI/On probation- parole drivers running away, and the "G" rides on 22"s driven by some of those unlic'd/DUI/ARMED on probation-parole drivers !!!!!:D:D:D:D

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[GrndPnd0311]

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Ahhh...come on now. They look like neighborly fellows. If I ever needed some artwork done, borrow a doo-rag, or get some advice on where to buy a good pair of locs I would be set. But, in all seriousness from what I have heard and know of the area it is no joke indeed. I dont think she would be one to run back to the Ellicott City bubble, but I do believe she would agree to moving a little further out.

[IrishLacrosse]

DANG! Being in a gang looks awesome. Think I found my new years resolution.

[GrndPnd0311]

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[DOAcop38]

But in all seriousness, it's no joke out by USC.

.."funny" how some folks ( especially coppers) back east or down south "THINK" that because we have beaches and "hollywood" that L.A., and so.calif( California in general ) is "SOFT" compared to their battle zones. I've been to places in the south,eastcoast and midwest ( actually Saw "rollin' 60s Crips sprayed in big block letters and UNTOUCHED on the walls of a liquor store in murderous Flint ,Mich in 2003),where L.A. thugs and their mindset have been "exported" with the local yokels busting their rears to "be like L.A.", but I've NEVER seen the so-called "real thugs of the east" come out here,let alone set up shop and SURVIVE..........:rolleyes:

[BanditLAPD]

ex-detroit pd thinking about lapd any info. would be great. and by the way, I'm not going to see or be subjected to anything different than what I dealt with in detroit. just asking po's input on the lapd. thanks.

To be honest with you, from the time i was a child i wanted to be LAPD, now that i have worked for LAPD for a few years I am very disappointed, officers are getting hurt because of their policy and how easily they will bend to criticism. After what i have seen and dealt with I am extremely disappoint with the dept and I am trying my hardest to leave.

[JerzeyCop609]

Bandit, I cant speak for LAPD (Yet!) but as for my department I remember 10 years ago compared to now. Its a world of difference.
You have COmstat, Monthly Productivity reports, guys getting hastled for stuff that used to just get you a tongue lashing by your superiors, and lets not forget that the bad guys officially have more rights then us now.
I learned you just have to find your niche in the whole thing and try to remember why you originally took the job in the first place, and remember to CYA (COVER YOUR *****). And last but not least pray...

I really dont think police work will ever go back to what it was, if anything its only going to get more politically correct. We just have to keep eachother safe and stand up for our fellow officers because in the end all we have is eachother.