Cadet Corps vs. Auxiliary Police

[rock1nit]

Can you guys tell me some facts on each and the major differences besides the fact that you have to be in college to become a cadet.

Thanks! :)

[Epyon8486]

Well if you become a cadet you will be able to choose your vacation pick first than the other recruits when your at the academy since you will be registered before them which will give you a little seniority from the recruits.

And if you become an Auxiliary you will be able to choose which precinct you will like to work in. Only thing is that you have to notify your coordinator in time when you are at the academy.

If you are Auxiliary you will be able to patrol the streets on foot, bike or RMP while cadets mostly help out with certain paper work. It depends on which precinct you are assigned to since different precinct gives different tasks. You could be lucky to be stationed at 1PP.

[NYCAPO]

Well they are 2 totally different things. The Cadet Corps is an internship where you work certain hours for the department while going to college, and then you become a Police Officer. The Auxiliary Police is a uniformed volunteer police force where people can join to patrol the streets in uniform and help police officers keep crime down.

There are pro's and con's to both.

Cadet Corps:
Pro's:
Your paid something like $13 or $14 an hour.

The department provides tuition assistance and, after 2 years of service as a police officer, the amount they give you is considered paid in full, so you don't need to pay it back.

Con's:
Only full time college students in an accredited college in NYC, Nassau, or Westchester counties who have 45 credits can join.

Cadets perform administrative duties for the department, so you really won't gain street experience.

Auxiliary Police:
Pro's:
You will gain street experience.

You will interact with civilians while on patrol.

You will go through a basic training course, and with some time on, may be selected to take extra training, such as vehicle operations training.

Con's:
You are a civilian on duty. Your not a police officer or even a peace officer.

Your unarmed.

The basic training course is only 54 hours.

The job is dangerous.


Personally, if I could do both, I would do both. I know of someone who is both a Cadet and a Auxiliary, and he loves it. He gets the benefits and paycheck by being a Cadet and gets the street smarts and experience as an Auxiliary.

[Epyon8486]

yeah doing both will be nice depending if you have alot of time to study, work and volunteer. You will be ahead of the class.

[Back to NYC]

It is a myth that Auxies get to choose which command they go to upon graduating the academy. If you have a serious hook, you might get to go where you want. But just because you were an Auxiliary in the 9th or 13th or wherever doesn't mean they can't or won't send you to the Bronx or Brooklyn North.

[Epyon8486]

There were two Auxiliaries in our precinct that became regular police officers. 1 of them get to go to the precinct which he desired in transit district 34 and the other one was stuck and was sent to 67th pct. Only reason the first one was able to go to the precinct he wanted was because he notified the coordinator in time while the other one didn't know he had to contact the coordinator because he wasn't very active in the program. Auxiliary HQ usually informs new coordinators about it.

[rock1nit]

Thanks for your answers :)


How can I pull off both while at college?

You become a police officer after doing both right? How long does it take?

Thanks. :)

[bkny27]

as a cadet while in college you need to work 21 hours a month, which works out to 3 days a month. one of those days is a mandatory monthly training which is usually the second sat of the month. so if you want to to the bare min its the one training day and 2 days at the pct. during the summer months you have to work full time 34 hour work weeks. when you graduate college you get promoted from cadet to police officer.
You need to have atleast 45 college credits but less then 90 credits to get in.

[rock1nit]

you'll get promoted to PO if you're a cadet. that don't happen to A/PO. go for cadet if u want to be a PO.

Oh, alright...thanks :) ...I guess cadet it is :)

as a cadet while in college you need to work 21 hours a month, which works out to 3 days a month. one of those days is a mandatory monthly training which is usually the second sat of the month. so if you want to to the bare min its the one training day and 2 days at the pct. during the summer months you have to work full time 34 hour work weeks. when you graduate college you get promoted from cadet to police officer.
You need to have atleast 45 college credits but less then 90 credits to get in.

Okay...but is there a limit a max? Like could I make it like a "part-time job" type of thing during the school year, since you get paid for doing that right?

[rock1nit]

it is like a part-time job. Just that you'll go from part-time to full-time once you graduate college.


Oo..alright :)

Umm...is it just like a promotion or must I go through all the exams and whatnot that everyone goes through...meaning like the oral, written, etc... Or do I just get priority in it?

:cool:

[bkny27]

you can work anywhere from 21 hours a month to 34 a week your choice. and yes you go thru the whole process.

[nyc1219]

Well if you become a cadet you will be able to choose your vacation pick first than the other recruits when your at the academy since you will be registered before them which will give you a little seniority from the recruits.

And if you become an Auxiliary you will be able to choose which precinct you will like to work in. Only thing is that you have to notify your coordinator in time when you are at the academy.

If you are Auxiliary you will be able to patrol the streets on foot, bike or RMP while cadets mostly help out with certain paper work. It depends on which precinct you are assigned to since different precinct gives different tasks. You could be lucky to be stationed at 1PP.

you have no idea of what your talking about. cadets do paperwork and "inside" stuff. you get paid, and you have the chance to meet a ton of hooks or cranes. as an apo you get a taste if what the street is like IF your in a pct that likes apo's. and there is a small chance you can meet some hooks. if you have a job already and want to see what its like or learn things before others, be an apo. if you need a job and help with college be a cadet.

and dont believe the myth that u get where u want to go or vaca pics. its all bull****. it is not who you were but who you know. not all cadets get the first vaca pics, not all apo's get pcts of their choice.

btw... they hate, hate, hate cadets at the academy because they act like "season salty veterans" and know it alls as the OCIs tells us

and if you want to get put at 1pp, just become a PAA

[rock1nit]

you can work anywhere from 21 hours a month to 34 a week your choice. and yes you go thru the whole process.


So why do people say that if you want to be a PO you should become a cadet if it really doesn't change much? Or does it give you priority and whatnot...?



btw... they hate, hate, hate cadets at the academy because they act like "season salty veterans" and know it alls as the OCIs tells us

and if you want to get put at 1pp, just become a PAA

Good think I'm not that type of person :p

[bkny27]

as a cadet you get a guarented spot in the academy when you are ready to get in. you also get hired before the rest of the academy so when you get into your squads you get to pick first because you have the loswest appointment date and tax.

[Brendon]

The sucky thing is, you cannot become a Cadet if you live outside city lines. :(


Not sucky for, you, but for me!

[Epyon8486]

you have no idea of what your talking about. cadets do paperwork and "inside" stuff. you get paid, and you have the chance to meet a ton of hooks or cranes. as an apo you get a taste if what the street is like IF your in a pct that likes apo's. and there is a small chance you can meet some hooks. if you have a job already and want to see what its like or learn things before others, be an apo. if you need a job and help with college be a cadet.

and dont believe the myth that u get where u want to go or vaca pics. its all bull****. it is not who you were but who you know. not all cadets get the first vaca pics, not all apo's get pcts of their choice.

btw... they hate, hate, hate cadets at the academy because they act like "season salty veterans" and know it alls as the OCIs tells us

and if you want to get put at 1pp, just become a PAA

I did said paperwork on my first post. Then I guess your saying that most POs in my pct including my coordinator that mentioned about the vacation picks are liars. Why is it a myth if it has happened? Is it that some of the APOs and cadets in my pct are lucky?

Edit:
I've been told that cadets get first picks for vacation since they are the first to be registered in the class because of the guaranteed spot once the internship ends.

[Back to NYC]

yeh, something i regret not doing when i was still in college. and the price i gotta pay now is a DQ letter from the nypd...

Chances are if there's something in your past that DQ'd you as a regular applicant, it would DQ you as a Cadet. They go through the same BI and psych that everyone else does. If there's an issue that got you DQ'd as a non-Cadet, it probably would've DQ'd you from being a Cadet in the first place.

[rock1nit]

Stop changing my topic :p

Hmm...so what should I watch out for then to make sure I do good on the psych and whatnot?

Like...I'm 16 right now...I've smoked marijuana 6 times between the ages of 15-early 16...definitely not doing it again...

Umm....anything I should watch out for that could affect me besides the use of marijuana? And how bad is that? :\

[nyc1219]

I did said paperwork on my first post. Then I guess your saying that most POs in my pct including my coordinator that mentioned about the vacation picks are liars. Why is it a myth if it has happened? Is it that some of the APOs and cadets in my pct are lucky?

Edit:
I've been told that cadets get first picks for vacation since they are the first to be registered in the class because of the guaranteed spot once the internship ends.

no I'm not calling them liars, what I'm saying is there is nothing set in stone that says cadets get the first vacation picks, (although most do) and apo's get the pct of choice. i know of a few former cadets that did not get the first vacation picks or anything that they were "promised" and a ton of apo's who did not get the pct let alone borough they wanted. its all about who you know. the guys in your pct had their coordinator make a call or two to get them where they are now, that was their hook.

and cadets are not guaranteed anything, they have to pass the a test like the rest of us, its just a bit easier for them due to their position. nothing is guaranteed anywhere on this job, not even meal:mad: lol

[rock1nit]

see this is something that's not fair. i never smoke pot in my entire life so i could be able to join the nypd. but in the end pple that have smoke pot got in and i didn't.

Well then you're probably not supposed to be answering my question :p
But...that probably must mean that you must have messed up on something else... :\

[NYCTNT]

dude yer like 16 n stuff.

like hy, the nypd aint even gonna look at u yet.

smokin da joint 6 times n wantin to be da jakes. you tu yung to be in da cadets. fo real.

get off the pot and get serious.

[rock1nit]

dude yer like 16 n stuff.

like yo, the nypd aint even gonna look at yo yet.

smokin da joint 6 times n wantin to be da jakes. you tu yung to be in da cadets. fo real.

No need to be mean about it :(
I don't know how you might picture me but I'm in no way like someone who would talk or act like that... :(


It is too early for me to join the cadets...I know...but I'm graduating H.S. 6 months early (Jan. '10) so I'm starting college early as well and I have to think about it not any later than now...therefore I want to know what I can do and any opportunities I have and whatnot.

:o

[NYCTNT]

ahh its a tease.

get your head straight and make sure you do the right thing and continue with school. next year.. or whenever you turn 17 you can be an AUX and try it out.

Hopefully you enroll into college and do well so you can be a cadet.

[bkny27]

call up there office and go to an orrientation that is your first step if you want to know more about them. tey are going to tell you that you need 45 credits before you can start tho.

[rock1nit]

ahh its a tease.

get your head straight and make sure you do the right thing and continue with school. next year.. or whenever you turn 17 you can be an AUX and try it out.

Hopefully you enroll into college and do well so you can be a cadet.

:p
I did :) I got myself into the right mindset...not that I wasn't doing so well before that, just some of the stuff I did, I shouldn't of have done at all...like marijuana, but yeah...
Yeah..I turn 17 this year...is it worth becoming an Aux for like a year...? And then becoming a cadet?
And..I want to have a job that pays so I can save up for college and whatnot...would I be able to pull off school, a job and being an AUX?

In college I'm planning on getting a Bachelor's in most likely either Psychology or Political Science unless I find something else...because I was told on this forum that I shouldn't go for a CJ degree since I learn everything I need to know in the academy. :)


call up there office and go to an orrientation that is your first step if you want to know more about them. tey are going to tell you that you need 45 credits before you can start tho.


Will do, thanks :)

[Hindsight 20/20]

If I were you I'd apply to be an auxiliary as soon as I turn 17, then when you get into college and get 45 credits join the cadets. They can only help, not hurt.

[rock1nit]

If I were you I'd apply to be an auxiliary as soon as I turn 17, then when you get into college and get 45 credits join the cadets. They can only help, not hurt.

Would being an AUX allow me to have enough time to have a job as well?

[Hindsight 20/20]

You only have to do 10 hours a month to keep your shield and ID... a month. You can knock that out on a Sunday when you have nothing to do, or do a few hours here and there after school or work. Besides, that shield and ID can be a great help if you get pulled over for some minor thing or something of that sort.

[rock1nit]

Oo...that sounds like a good idea then :)
So I'll probably go and ask about that at my local precinct (60th) as soon as I turn 17 :)

[Epyon8486]

Would being an AUX allow me to have enough time to have a job as well?

Yeah since Aux is a volunteer program you only need to do 10 hours a month which you can do 2 tours a month (5hr each) or like Hindsight said knock it out on 1 day when you are bored and free.