CHP vs. Sheriff's dept

[wannabdst]

I have a friend that is thinking of goin CHP. I there academy similar to the Sheriff's Dept. Thats all I have to compare to so i dont want to give him mis info as far as LDs and things.

[SDPDApplicant]

You may want to be a bit more specific, having a hard time understanding your question.

If you are referring to a county sheriff's academy and the CHP academy, they are two different academies. No clue as far as what LD's they use, as far as I'm concerned it's department specific.

[ChRdy21799]

I've heard CHP has one of the toughest Academies in CA.

www.chp.ca.gov (http://www.chp.ca.gov)

www.chpforums.com (http://www.chpforums.com) (read the rules!)

[Viffer]

Both Sheriff and CHP academies are tough...but the EVOC portion for CHP is harder than a Sheriff's academy...from what I've heard.

Also, the CHP academy is a Live-In academy...you stay there Monday through Friday. For a Sheriff's academy, you don't live at the academy, you go home each day.

LD's are standard POST...it's for all POST certified agencies.

[MidnightBlue]

I've heard CHP has one of the toughest Academies in CA.

Most academies say that. Just like almost any agency you come across will refer to itself as "the finest law enforcement agency in <insert region here>". It really depends on the person. What may be tough for one person may not be so tough for another and vice versa. Like Viffer said, LD's are POST standard. It is one of the only academies that I know of that includes swimming in the curriculum, however. The only major differences you may find are length (CHP's academy is about 27 weeks, while some academies only run 18) and the fact that it's a live-in academy, as Viffer also stated. Hope that helps in answering your question.

By the way, you're allowed liberty (leave) on Wednesdays at the end of the day...provided you're not behind on anything. So there is a small break in the middle of the week to leave the academy grounds.

[sgttom]

The LD's are the same for the most part as regulated by POST standards HWEVER - Sheriff's generally get the very basic traffic collision / traffic related investigations while the CHP get an expanded / in depth version of the same LD. Sheriff's don't usually handle traffic cases while CHP "primary" misssion is traffic (and other stuff)...

CHP EVOC is more involved as well (and more fun)...

CHP academy is a month or so longer than a regular sheriff / police academy too (not including SF or LA's academies)...



I have a friend that is thinking of goin CHP. I there academy similar to the Sheriff's Dept. Thats all I have to compare to so i dont want to give him mis info as far as LDs and things.

[wannabdst]

Thank you all for the responses. My friend has not even taken the written yet but I will let him know. Any pointers for the written?

[IrishLacrosse]

Didn't you see/read the CHP thread right below this one? It has some info pertaining to the written. Call a recruiter as well that is what they are there for to answer peoples questions like yours that they must answer numerous times a day. If you took the time to research first such as chpforums, or search this forum you would find your answer w/o creating a new thread.


http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115263

[Mike1904]

CHP is a live in academy. Much more in depth in traffic and vehicle codes. My academy was just as long as theirs, roughly 26-27 weeks depending on holidays. Most of their tests involve some sort of essay question where ours was all multiple choice. Major difference is we spend 95 percent of the time on penal codes and criminal investigations, and they spend 95 percent of the time on vehicle codes, traffic, and accident investigations.

[Up_On_Base]

I read all the time about CHP EVOC, anyone care to let me know why it's so hard?

Do you have to make the car float in the air, do 3 flips, and continue around the track?

I am sure its high speed/low drag but if it was that hard, they would not graduate that many Officers every year. I think it's probably intense, but more urban myth.

Also, is the EVOC only on the track or also Non Emergency course, you know the kind w/ all the cones, stop, back up, right turn, left turn, beep the horn, back up, park, etc...I hated the FLETC NEVO...I prefer to drive the skid pad and the track...good times.

[MidnightBlue]

I read all the time about CHP EVOC, anyone care to let me know why it's so hard?

Do you have to make the car float in the air, do 3 flips, and continue around the track?

I am sure its high speed/low drag but if it was that hard, they would not graduate that many Officers every year. I think it's probably intense, but more urban myth.

Also, is the EVOC only on the track or also Non Emergency course, you know the kind w/ all the cones, stop, back up, right turn, left turn, beep the horn, back up, park, etc...I hated the FLETC NEVO...I prefer to drive the skid pad and the track...good times.

The first thing that comes to mind when I compare ride alongs I've done in the city vs CHP is that most city cops or sheriff's deputies aren't going to hit 100+ MPH to catch up to a speeder. It happened several times when I rode with the Chippies. Yes everyone does EVOC, but those guys can DRIVE.

And with the right teachers, graduation rate doesn't necessarily drop with increased difficulty. JMHO.

[wannabdst]

Didn't you see/read the CHP thread right below this one? It has some info pertaining to the written. Call a recruiter as well that is what they are there for to answer peoples questions like yours that they must answer numerous times a day. If you took the time to research first such as chpforums, or search this forum you would find your answer w/o creating a new thread.


http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115263

I'm sorry for offending you by starting a new thread. I was under the impression people came on here to read!

[LAC_LE]

Didn't you see/read the CHP thread right below this one? It has some info pertaining to the written. Call a recruiter as well that is what they are there for to answer peoples questions like yours that they must answer numerous times a day. If you took the time to research first such as chpforums, or search this forum you would find your answer w/o creating a new thread.


http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115263

Or, you-- I mean, your "friend" could go directly to the CHP forum. Just start a new thread there and ask for basic information on joining CHP. They love that. ;)

[IrishLacrosse]

Or, you-- I mean, your "friend" could go directly to the CHP forum. Just start a new thread there and ask for basic information on joining CHP. They love that. ;)

??? Nowhere in my post did I teel him to go there and start a new thread. Your profile states you're a sworn law enforcement officer which means that you are a trained observer, something doesn't smell right with your credentials. If your post was meant to be sarcastic you didn't pick a good place to be so.

[SgtCHP]

??? Nowhere in my post did I teel him to go there and start a new thread. Your profile states you're a sworn law enforcement officer which means that you are a trained observer, something doesn't smell right with your credentials. If your post was meant to be sarcastic you didn't pick a good place to be so.

With all due respect my young friend, this is not a place to be challenging others or creating contentious posts. Management is much quicker to take action on those who do so and are not seeking information from LEOs. Chill out and enjoy the posts.

[LAC_LE]

??? Nowhere in my post did I teel him to go there and start a new thread. Your profile states you're a sworn law enforcement officer which means that you are a trained observer, something doesn't smell right with your credentials. If your post was meant to be sarcastic you didn't pick a good place to be so.

Easy on the vitriol, Irish. My post is clearly a joke, since anyone who's been reading the CHP posts would know that newbies asking basic questions on the CHP forum are not terribly well-received. Which goes to your point of checking existing threads before starting new ones. Clear enough?

SgtCHP has been considerate enough to offer you wise advice. I suggest you take it.

[wannabdst]

Easy on the vitriol, Irish. My post is clearly a joke, since anyone who's been reading the CHP posts would know that newbies asking basic questions on the CHP forum are not terribly well-received. Which goes to your point of checking existing threads before starting new ones. Clear enough?

SgtCHP has been considerate enough to offer you wise advice. I suggest you take it.

Are you assuming that I am not a Sworn Peace Officer? As far as "newbies" asking questions, I would check the date you joind this site!

[LAC_LE]

Are you assuming that I am not a Sworn Peace Officer? As far as "newbies" asking questions, I would check the date you joind this site!

Nope, not my point at all. I was only articulating the gist of my original joke. Period. There’s no reason to read anything into it beyond that.

[Copp'rPenny]

Are you assuming that I am not a Sworn Peace Officer? ...

Jumping in to say, time for a new sign-in name, Wannabdst! :) (This from a girl who's not yet a cop but who does have copper-colored hair. ;) )

[QRF]

I read all the time about CHP EVOC, anyone care to let me know why it's so hard?

Do you have to make the car float in the air, do 3 flips, and continue around the track?

I am sure its high speed/low drag but if it was that hard, they would not graduate that many Officers every year. I think it's probably intense, but more urban myth.


The only time I was up on the CHP EVOC was when I attended motor school and it was no urban myth. It was just as hard as they said it was. It takes a lot of discipline, concentration and sometimes nerves of steel.

I can't speak for four wheel vehicular driving on the EVOC, but I am here to tell you that the two wheel riding course is intense. Everything from side by side column riding 2 inches off the fender of the person in front of you at 55 mph and having no throttle return spring or ability to look down, to 90 degree turn outs with steering wheel lock along the Jersey Wall.

[wannabdst]

Jumping in to say, time for a new sign-in name, Wannabdst! :) (This from a girl who's not yet a cop but who does have copper-colored hair. ;) )

Yah I know but as you can tell I rarely post anymore.