More Bad News...until they change their mind again.

[NYPD3737]

ny1.com/content/news_beats/politics/93712/nypd-forced-to-cut-2010-police-class/Default.aspx

[BMAC8411]

Your about a month late. Do some research next time.

[JdotB]

just had to, bored lol.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2082/20771392.jpg

[RC191]

gotta love it haha

[NYJets44288]

Ahaha, I like the John Madden style drawing on the screen.

[cvamal]

March 16th

"$1 Billion Grant Program Will Create and Save Law Enforcement Jobs Across America

Approximately 5,500 additional law enforcement officer jobs will be created or saved in law enforcement agencies across the country through funding provided by the stimulus plan recently signed by the President. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 allocates $1 billion to the U.S. Department of Justice Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (the COPS Office) for the COPS Hiring Recovery Program. The grant program will be open to state, local and tribal law enforcement agencies

“This is a major investment that will create and save more than 5,000 jobs,” said Acting Director Tim Quinn. “The jurisdictions that receive these grants will be able to protect these critical law enforcement positions and use them to address crime and public safety issues."

Funds awarded to law enforcement agencies by the COPS Office provide 100 percent of entry-level salary and benefits for each officer for 3 years. All jurisdictions that receive funding must plan to retain COPS-funded officer positions after federal funding has ended.

Other programs administered by the COPS Office—Technology, Methamphetamine Initiative, Tribal Resources Grant Program, Secure our Schools, and the Child Sexual Predator Program—will be offered through allocations in the 2009 Omnibus appropriations bill.

Information about applying for the COPS Hiring Recovery Program will be posted on the COPS Office and Department of Justice web sites in the coming weeks. "

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/March_2009/stimulus.htm


"WASHINGTON - The Justice Department announced Monday it has begun accepting applications from local police departments around the nation that want part of the $1 billion in economic stimulus funds set aside for hiring approximately 5,500 law enforcement officers.
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The money is available under the Community Oriented Policing Services program, also known as COPS.

Unlike most programs funded by Congress under the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the COPS program provides money directly to local governments.

COPS began in 1995 during the Clinton administration to help communities hire additional police officers.
The grants cover the entire cost of an entry-level officer's salary and benefits for three years. They can be used to rehire officers who have been laid off, to prevent layoffs or to fill vacancies."

By Brian Tumulty • Journal Washington bureau • March 16, 2009

And a lil old: Sunday, March 1st 2009, 10:53 PM (daily news)

"More than 3,900 new police officers could soon be working in New York City, thanks to extra federal funding.

Approximately 400 cops could be hired in the next few months as part of the $1 billion set aside for new police officers in President Obama's economic stimulus package, Rep. Anthony Weiner said yesterday.

The proposed Obama budget also includes federal funding for an additional 3,500 cops the city could hire over the next four years.

The federal government would pick up 75% of the funding for those new hires as part of the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program.

"Our safety challenges can't take a backseat to our economic ones," said Weiner (D-Brooklyn, Queens).

"The COPS program is a proven winner, cutting crime and making neighborhoods safe in New York City."

The extra funds could offset last month's news that the NYPD was being forced by the city's fiscal crisis to cancel its 2010 rookie class, eliminating 1,000 positions."

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/03/01/2009-03-01_stimulus_package_could_give_nypd_nearly_.html

SOOOOoooOOOO it is just starting to move...lets keep focusing and ....
YES WAIT QUIETLY!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Just kidding I am dying there...:mad:
I am google searching updates twice a week:D

That said, seems like the 400 recruits is pretty much the body count increase we should expect... next class between 250-650... that match most of the rumors we are hearing.;)

KEEP YOUR HOPES HIGH AND ALL OLD EXAM NUMBERS............... PLEASE DROP NOW!!!!(or get on review)

[Ppk487]

Are you suggesting that we older exam guys (like myself with 5006) drop?

Highly unlikely, I've wanted this job for a looooooooong time now and I took this test when I was 18 years old telling myself that I wanted the soonest available class once I graduated college (which is July 2009). Thats not a fair thing to say for us guys.

[richbrown123456]

Hate to break it to you, doesnt matter how many of us drop or get put on review, because we keep adding on. Hey im 6011 and im sure since jan. 100's have jumped in front of me. May suck, but it is what it is and we just have to wait it out.

[Ppk487]

Yeah, with all this economic crap thats going on, I kinda wish I did join in July 2008 after I received my letter in the mail for the medical a week after my 21st birthday in April of 2008. I called them and asked if I could wait it out to graduate college and thats when they put me on educational hold (although I did have over 90 credits available for July 2008s academy). I highly regret that now, but when I reopened my file in February I did finish the process rather quickly. I just pray that its all going to be worth it in the end.

[NYJets44288]

I'm 6011 too, can't wait to get in ASAP (which for me is January 2010 -- if there is a class)

[Ppk487]

Being I'm 5006, I took the exam I believe on October 28 2005, which would then mean it expires October 28 2009, so this is the last academy I can qualify for before expiring and I'd have to start this whole thing over again. I need this.

[cvamal]

Was just joking..although....HUMMMMM:rolleyes:

I know there are lots of good people waiting for their time.

Kinda sucks if we have to go through all these crappy exams all again.

Have 10 days off / year and it sucked 5 of them last year...hope wont happen again.:mad:

The only thing that make me nervous is that I am not sure they are playing by the books ...I feel like your file can be put on review for no real reason...That is the main problem, even with the older exam # I would feel nervous about July 09.

About people reopening like crazy ...+1...
Have a good relation with my BI, I must have met her like 10 times and in January she was telling me, you will be in for July as long as it is 250 bodies...last time I spoke to her (beginning of March) she was....Hum lots of people reopening, you may not make it even with 700 bodies (and I am 02/08 so equal to 7011)...

Unfortunately it is impossible to say from the forum or other sources how many people are reopening and what kind of # they have...feel like during the shameful $25K few people took the exam and ditched the job so they shouldnt be too many people there...I hope...

[Ppk487]

I can understand that. I even mentioned it to the investigator that I took this exam at 18 years old and a freshman in college with every intention of joining this department. I would've taken the job at a starting pay at $25,000 because its something I just want to do and be.

[cvamal]

I can understand that. I even mentioned it to the investigator that I took this exam at 18 years old and a freshman in college with every intention of joining this department. I would've taken the job at a starting pay at $25,000 because its something I just want to do and be.

Yup, would say people who passed the exam at 25K and the vet should go first.
Then ME ahahahha

[jchughes05]

I took exam 8050 and dont expect to hear anything anytime soon.

[richbrown123456]

NYJets why jan 2010? Is it for personal reasons? Because with 6011, you MAY have a shot for july. Keeping fingers crossed

[richbrown123456]

Ah ha, did a little investigative work because i was a little worried with your lack of confidence with your exam number. I see your not 21 yet, that is why you are waiting for jan. 2010. Sorry to here that.

[Arewethereyet]

I took exam 8050 and dont expect to hear anything anytime soon.

JC still trying to get out of HdG? When was exam 8050?

[BrianLI]

JC still trying to get out of HdG? When was exam 8050?

I took 8000 and nothing yet for me. Im scared out of my mind considering how my company keeps laying people off. 40 last week and more to come. Corporate world sucks and ive been wanting out for some time now. NYPD has been on my agenda for a while and hopefully soon I will be in.

Good luck to all and keep the information coming!

Brian

[APONY]

ONE THING FOR SURE...THE MILITARY IS STILL HIRING.lol!

[NYPD3737]

Your about a month late. Do some research next time.

Um... not what your mom said.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/090317_ray_kelly_on_good_day_ny

[JdotB]

January 2010 canceled...great....f'n great....looks like i'm january 2011 now....wtf economy

[BMAC8411]

Um... not what your mom said.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/090317_ray_kelly_on_good_day_ny

See its dicks like you that make me be pro abortion! The article you posted was from February dick! No need to be an ******* and start in on me or my mother! If you are on the job I feel bad for the people of NYC. On the other hand if your on the job or will be on the job, I'm sure you'll come up against someone you can't put down by hiding behind a screen name.

DICK!

[NYJets44288]

Yeah richbrown123456, not 21 until August. If January 2010 comes back to life I think my exam # 6011 and list # will do me just fine (fingers crossed). Now my hustling in school to maintain my current GPA and get my degree by January, that's all I have to worry about.

[RC191]

wait a second? i took exam 8000 back in june of 08"....how did that kid just take exam 8000 as well?

[RC191]

ok wait nevermind....maybe he just didnt get anything in the mail to do his medical and things....

[BrianLI]

RC-

You are probably referring to me. I took test 8000 in June 08 also and all I got was a list number. Nothing as of yet for medical or anything else. Guess your in the same boat.

[RC191]

Na actually im not in the same boat ...i got my list number 2 weeks after i took the test and i have done everything ...meaning medical, jst, etc. Im ready for hire...

[Ppk487]

I don't think NYPDs going to be calling anyone to take a mini medical unless they really want to hire them this time around since the mini medicals cost money.

I'm thinking letters will go out April/May for a June exam. I just want my BI to be complete by the end of the month, it has been two weeks exactly since it started.

[TobaKnight]

As I understand it, your BI wont be complete for at least 2 years.

[Ppk487]

Well that I understand, but I meant ready for hire pretty much.

[BrianLI]

Na actually im not in the same boat ...i got my list number 2 weeks after i took the test and i have done everything ...meaning medical, jst, etc. Im ready for hire...

I heard of some people that took that June test 8000 and got their list number fast. I called APD 100's of times from July - January 09, and they said that test 8000 has not been graded yet....total BS obivously. Got my list number in January 09.

Good luck in the hiring process.

Brian

[NYPD3737]

See its dicks like you that make me be pro abortion! The article you posted was from February dick! No need to be an ******* and start in on me or my mother! If you are on the job I feel bad for the people of NYC. On the other hand if your on the job or will be on the job, I'm sure you'll come up against someone you can't put down by hiding behind a screen name.

DICK!

You are correct, my original article was posted from Feb. This video is Ray Kelly on St. Patricks day saying the Jan 2010 class was cancelled. Don't be mad at me, be mad at the city tough guy.

[NJGuy]

i wish they would get up to the 8000s

they have already, your exam number has little to do with when your getting in. it all depends on how qualified you are. the more qualified you are the faster you are getting in period.

[richbrown123456]

wrong and no they havent gotton up to 8000's only people who got hired with 8000's would be the people who went in last july before they had the pay raise and economic problem. It goes by exam sorry buddy. 100percent sure on this one. Meeting minor quilifications or being the most qualified in the world makes no difference. Its all by your exam and list

[Kyle G]

they have already, your exam number has little to do with when your getting in. it all depends on how qualified you are. the more qualified you are the faster you are getting in period.

Who told you that? It's misinformation.

[NYPD3737]

wow...what are you? 10? grow up. don't talk about mothers because if you said that when hired i can guarantee you get slam with a lawsuit either by your fellow officers or citizens and kick out of the force and never be able to join any LEO jobs.

its a message board. go cry about it.

[NJGuy]

wrong and no they havent gotton up to 8000's only people who got hired with 8000's would be the people who went in last july before they had the pay raise and economic problem. It goes by exam sorry buddy. 100percent sure on this one. Meeting minor quilifications or being the most qualified in the world makes no difference. Its all by your exam and list

read your own post and locate the problem with it. you are contradicting yourself in an attempt to make yourself sound smart. how can 8000's go in July of last year if the 6000 are still waiting??? its not all about your exam dude. what do you think that every person that gets a list number becomes a cop??? they push people ahead of other people, its always been like that and it always will. stop trying to educate us on this forum by acting like you know what goes on behind the nypd curtains and understand that your small time and don't have a clue.

[Kyle G]

read your own post and locate the problem with it. you are contradicting yourself in an attempt to make yourself sound smart. how can 8000's go in July of last year if the 6000 are still waiting??? its not all about your exam dude. what do you think that every person that gets a list number becomes a cop??? they push people ahead of other people, its always been like that and it always will. stop trying to educate us on this forum by acting like you know what goes on behind the nypd curtains and understand that your small time and don't have a clue.

Some get DQ'd or put on review. But other than that they go by exam and list number. Maybe you are talking about the way it in NJ. Why are you so adimant about something you don't know about?

[nyc1219]

read your own post and locate the problem with it. you are contradicting yourself in an attempt to make yourself sound smart. how can 8000's go in July of last year if the 6000 are still waiting??? its not all about your exam dude. what do you think that every person that gets a list number becomes a cop??? they push people ahead of other people, its always been like that and it always will. stop trying to educate us on this forum by acting like you know what goes on behind the nypd curtains and understand that your small time and don't have a clue.

here in New York, its all about your exam and list number "dude". its a civil service law that was enacted thru the Lexow Committee during the late 1800's. they push people ahead of other people if there is a hold up or if someone is not ready or did not get signed off on. you dont have to be behind the nypd curtains to understand this.

stay in jersey

[richbrown123456]

your own post and locate the problem with it. you are contradicting yourself in an attempt to make yourself sound smart. how can 8000's go in July of last year if the 6000 are still waiting??? its not all about your exam dude. what do you think that every person that gets a list number becomes a cop??? they push people ahead of other people, its always been like that and it always will. stop trying to educate us on this forum by acting like you know what goes on behind the nypd curtains and understand that your small time and don't have a clue.


Yea, someone is trying to sound smart, but it is not me. I am actually very smart when it comes to this, because this is what i want to do, SO I RESEARCHED IT. Something you failed to do. Look at the class right now it proves it all. I was very nice about why i know you are wrong, and you turn around and make me out to be a "wanabe know it all" which infact that is you!.

And your questions "how can 8000's go in July of last year if the 6000 are still waiting???" can be answered VERY simply,
1. Hold or Review
2. People waiting for school to end
3. People waiting for a pay raise.
4. People not sure if they want to be a cop and decided hey maybe i do.
5. People in the military.
LIST GOES ON BUDDY.

So please go do some research before you come on here trying to be that "know it all" and then come back with an apology to me. Wait ill even go out of my way to prove it to you once and for all. Ill save you the homework that you were to lazy to do


right off the NYPD website http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/careers/application_faq.shtml

"When will the next class be hired?

The next Police Acedemy class is tentatively scheduled for July 2009. We anticipate using exam 4022 up to and including exam 7011. Should questions exist, please call the Candidate Service Desk at (718) 972-2503/2545 or the Candidate Relations section at (718)972-3120."

Umm so where is Highly qualified JOE with his 8000 exam. Sorry i guess i am just trying to sound smart.

[WannaBeTacMedic]

is this guy serious lol

[Alexp]

lol i love how NJGuy is telling other people they dont know anything yet he is the one who is completely wrong. You should follow your own advice and not talk when you clearly dont know whats going on.

[BigWill2876]

The reality is that for at least the past 3 classes (the 26 K classes) PRIOR to the class now in the Academy, EVERYONE that was in the system and 4 Q'ed was hired
Since the two new contract signings a large number of people that had taken previous tests activated their files and are now in the system, add military returning as well
ADD into that the huge increase in new people taking both the walk ins (a300% increase per DAY) and the regularly scheduled testing sites (lines around the block at some places)
Then take the reduced size of the classes both in number and frequency and you have a LOG JAM for entering the Academy
Keep patient, keep in shape, keep your "noses" clean and eventually you will be hired, it just may take a year or two for it to happen, which was not an usual time period in the past

[Alexp]

The reality is that for at least the past 3 classes (the 26 K classes) PRIOR to the class now in the Academy, EVERYONE that was in the system and 4 Q'ed was hired
Since the two new contract signings a large number of people that had taken previous tests activated their files and are now in the system, add military returning as well
ADD into that the huge increase in new people taking both the walk ins (a300% increase per DAY) and the regularly scheduled testing sites (lines around the block at some places)
Then take the reduced size of the classes both in number and frequency and you have a LOG JAM for entering the Academy
Keep patient, keep in shape, keep your "noses" clean and eventually you will be hired, it just may take a year or two for it to happen, which was not an usual time period in the past


Good post Will. I have been 4qed since Nov 08 and its pretty much a waiting game from now on. If you were called for processing and are eventualy 4qd then you will be hired eventually. The main thing is to keep your nose clean and not do anything that might disqualify you. Just so you know, they don't call everybody from every test for processing. If you got a letter in the mail to come in for testing and eventually finish everything then its a matter of when and not if (unless you do something to mess that up). The only other problem is your exam expiring. Yes it might take us 2 years or more to get hired but IMO everybody who posts here now should be hired within the next 4 years.

I remember back in november i coudln't even live a normal life because i was so anxious to find out if i was going get into Jan 09 academy (before the raise and the economy going down the drain). Now its like......we already waited for a long time, if this is really what you want then try to occupy yourself with something else and your time will come. Also if you took the test before the new raise (before August 08) then you are in a lot better position then people who took that test after. Yes a lot o people are reopening their cases but due to low salary not as many people took NYPD tests before the raise as there are taking now. Eventually those exams will either get into the academy or expire and it will be our turn. Now, if you took your exam AFTER the raise...with the rest of the country lol, thats when it gets a lot more competitive since instead of having 5000 people per test, you have 20,000 per test.

One thing im gonna do is that if im not hired by July 2010, i will take another test just to be safe incase it will take longer than 4 years to get hired.

[BarXone]

One thing im gonna do is that if im not hired by July 2010, i will take another test just to be safe incase it will take longer than 4 years to get hired.

That's your best bet. I'm on an older exam and also took the walk-in last October in case my exam expires by the time I get called. I'll probably continue to take it every 2-3 years until I get hired lol

[Ppk487]

I'm with you BarXone.

I'm probably gonna take a walk-in exam myself in case I don't get in July '09 with my 5006 exam.

[Kyle G]

I don't think there are anymore walkins. I think I read on here that they did away with them. I could be wrong though.

[Ppk487]

Whatever the case may be, God forbid I don't get into July 2009, I'd take the next available exam ASAP.

Lets hope that us 5000 series exam guys get in this summer though Kyle.

[richbrown123456]

I am 6011, but with cadets and lack of class numbers i might just be skipped over. So i was thinking maybe i should take a new exam.

[Hindsight 20/20]

There's a few 6012 guys in the current academy class. If the July class will be more than 250 people, then there's a good chance that you'll be in.

[pekkieboyz]

i think you should take an new exam just to be on the safe side

[Ppk487]

I know I am going to take another exam even with my exam of 5006. I know a lot of guys will say "oh wow, you're at the top of the list, your so in for July" but its never that easy. If this class is of at least 400 recruits, I would say yes, my chances, as well as anyone else whose exams are in the 5000-6000 range, should be pretty solid, but its still up in the air.

[LIRecruit57]

TO BrianLI,

I am exam 8000 and I was processing this past fall. I was done with everything up to the mini-med and haven't heard anything since. Sit tight and wait it out. We'll see what happens. What stinks is that my fromer company told me my investigator said it "looked like I was going in" then the economy struck.