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SCB417
03-17-2009, 03:15 AM
Similar to a previously posted article...but with some more detail.... might be good news..


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Nassau cops to lose $100G in termination pay under cap

BY CELESTE HADRICK | celeste.hadrick@newsday.com
10:58 PM EDT, March 16, 2009

High-ranking, longtime Nassau police officers eligible to receive as much as a half-million dollars in termination pay would lose at least $100,000 each under payout caps expected to be in place this summer, county officials said Monday.

The caps, which limit termination pay to a maximum of two times a retiring officer's salary, are part of the recent deals County Executive Thomas Suozzi made with Nassau police and detective unions to avoid layoffs.

The two unions had already agreed to caps starting in November, but they agreed to move up the effective date to July 1. Negotiations are continuing with the Superior Officers Association, but Suozzi aides Monday predicted a similar cap would be in place for these high-ranking officers before September.

"I still think the payouts are much higher than I would like," Suozzi said Monday. "But I'm happy we've had this modest success. By moving the cap date up to July and August, we can reach our savings targets without laying people off."

The pay caps are intended to prod the older and highest paid officers to retire, said Dan McCray, Nassau's labor relations director. That would allow the county to hire younger officers at lower salaries and also would enable Nassau to restructure the department, now top heavy with police brass, he said.

"The higher-end people who are leaving at the assistant chief and chief level would lose about $100,000 each" if they retire after the caps are in place, McCray said. "As a result we anticipated record number of retirements throughout the department."

He said the county expects about 225 retirements this year, double the annual average.

A review by Newsday of five top severance payments in 2008 and the five top payouts so far this year shows that three officers would have lost more than $200,000 each in severance if the caps had been in effect when they left. Two others would have lost more than $100,000 each.

And the county would have saved more than $1 million by paying less to just these 10 retirees.

For example, Assistant Chief Paul Tully, who retired last year, received $482,602 in termination pay, which includes such things as accumulated sick, vacation and holiday pay. If the cap had been in effect, Tully would have been limited to $231,546 in severance.

Tully could not be reached for comment. None of the other nine retirees who ranked in the top 10 for severance pay over the past 14 months could be reached.
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With some big retriements coming - maybe a late 09 class???

225 retirements, and maybe more...could leave some big openings for guys that took this test. And if the rumors are true that not many people passed the test...might be good news.

FordRanger
03-20-2009, 12:06 PM
Hopefully we will get some movement soon.



Also I like keeping the Nassau discussion groups closer to the top of the board instead of on the second and third page......

BTW can we try to consolidate some of the NYPD threads PLEASE...
at the very least can we have some moderators put a stop to the redundant, repeated, excessively asked, relentlessly stated questions which have already been exhaustively answered in multiple previous threads....... Do a search before asking a question....

Thank you .....

250
03-20-2009, 01:20 PM
someone should make a sticky NYPD post with links to all the phone numbers, apd forms, and FAQ's about the hiring process, etc.

BarXone
03-20-2009, 01:30 PM
someone should make a sticky NYPD post with links to all the phone numbers, apd forms, and FAQ's about the hiring process, etc.

i agree.. definitely reptitive questions. and if there were stickied threads with all the numbers and apd form questions it would help alleviate that issue.

however, it's not like the NYPD threads are overflowing or restricting others to be participatory.. the number of applicants looking into the NYPD compared to other PDs in NY are much greater, so you can only expect more threads on it..

maybe make "official" threads for each specific topic (ex. NYPD APD-Questions, NYPD Future Hiring News, etc.) The Official July 2009 thread helps a little but if someone were to look for resolve in that thread it wouldn't be easily accessible simply due to the un-organized amount of pages and responses on various issues - and besides looking through non-related things to find what your answer would be, you also have to sift through the classic 'ego' arguments so many on here like to start up :rolleyes:

Ford4x4
03-20-2009, 02:19 PM
I have my fingers crossed for a Aug / Sept 09 class. Eventually it'll happen guys, gotta stay optimistic, and with all these potential retirements, we finally have some good news. Now lets just hope they actually retire, and don't stay on due to the weak economy....

ArmySean
03-21-2009, 12:55 AM
I have my fingers crossed for a Aug / Sept 09 class. Eventually it'll happen guys, gotta stay optimistic, and with all these potential retirements, we finally have some good news. Now lets just hope they actually retire, and don't stay on due to the weak economy....

what did you get ont the test? I got a 90.something and i figure that I will be in the second or third class or atleast the fourth.

Natsirt01
03-21-2009, 02:45 AM
I heard an interesting rumor that Nassau is raising the physical requirements and adopting the same PAT that Suffolk and and State police use

thecongo
03-21-2009, 08:03 AM
I heard an interesting rumor that Nassau is raising the physical requirements and adopting the same PAT that Suffolk and and State police use

It's not a rumor. Its fact. if youre under 29 you gotta knock out 1.5 mile in 12:29, 29 pushups, 38 situps in one minute. No more running around a few cones and doing a few squats. This physical is similar to the militarys physical fitness test.

Ford4x4
03-21-2009, 09:43 AM
what did you get ont the test? I got a 90.something and i figure that I will be in the second or third class or atleast the fourth.

I received a 92.xx on the exam, and originally got called and started the initial process back in summer of 08', (went to orientation etc) but then, like many others, have heard nothing since.

SCB417
03-23-2009, 02:54 AM
I got an 88.xxx

To my knowledge they invited everyone down to a 92 (actually 91.5 or so I believe - its been sooo long) to orientation...like Ford stated earlier. So I am assuming that they were prepared to generate a class from the guys that scored 92 thru 100. If thats the case, 8pts is a large spread for one class.

SO for guys like me, I'd almost keep my fingers crossed that I could get called for a 2nd class.... (and I apologize that this is entirely speculation but why not?)

One rumor I have heard is that only about 14,000 took the exam and that only 9,000 passed...any truth to that? Also, consider the new Physical standards may knock out more people then usual...I have heard that its roughly a 8-1 ratio of applicants processed to get 1 recruit...in other words, process 800 guys for a class of 100.

Bottom line, a final list would answer a ton of questions, however, as someone wrote earlier on this board, as long as there is no list, the 4 year limit is NOT active. So I can at least give NCPD credit for not posting the list until they are ready to hire.

dapc131
03-23-2009, 08:13 AM
Just a heads up guys, Nassau County Civil Service stated over the phone that they have notified those who scored 91.378 and up.

FordRanger
03-24-2009, 12:59 AM
Anybody seen or heard from gbotj lately...

SCB417
03-24-2009, 01:32 PM
Anybody seen or heard from gbotj lately...

Nope - thought for sure gbotj would be in on this topic. He usually has some good info.

Ford4x4
03-24-2009, 01:39 PM
Anybody seen or heard from gbotj lately...

Funny you guys mention him, because I was just thinking the same thing. Hope all is well with him, he is a good guy, always there with the inside scoop.

fedny
03-24-2009, 01:40 PM
Probably got a lecture in training about it. Hope they are doing well.