Suffolk County Sherriff and Procedure

[riese]

I just received my second canvass letter for the SCDS and was wondering if anyone knew the procedure after sending in the original letter. Basically, after sending in the letter how long would I have to do the physical and all that fun stuff? My job isn't exactly the easiest to take days off these days and dont want to say yes to the letter than have to take off 10 days over a period of a few weeks for testing right from the start. I could do so in about three weeks or so given I will then be a PO vs a PPO (Probational Police Officer.) And yes I am already on the Job (Still a Probby) but really rather be a Deputy Sheriff given its ALOT closer to home and my skill set goes well with a few of their specialized units.

Thanks Guys!

[Curious2008]

What's the second canvas letter say exactly? And what was your score if you don't mind me asking?

I received a canvas letter a few months ago as well.

[Kannons610]

I got a 95 on the test and also got a canvass letter a few months ago. I didn't receive a second canvass letter as of today.

[riese]

I believe it was a 97.5, it might have been 95 though. I know for a fact I was one of the 113's on the list. The letter is orange and its the second I have recieved. The first I asked them to recanvass me and this one says I have to return it within 7 days of the letter and that I should be ready for an orientation shortly after than a physical exam shortly after that.

Any info on the process for those who went through it or are in the know?

Thanks again and good luck to everyone!

ETA: The letter stated there are several perm. vacancies.

[PBXTech]

I got the same letter. I scored 95. Mine says the same as yours. This is now the 2nd letter from the sheriffs office.


Riese there isnt a grade of 97.5 on that test. Only 105,100 and 95 and so on. If you got a 95 your list number is 106.

[srq screw]

don't base your decision to switch jobs based on wanting to get into a specialty unit, because you will likely be waiting a loooooooooong time to get the chance to get into one.

*constructive criticism* - it is 1 "r", 2 "f"s.

[Kannons610]

I got a letter today and already mailed it back. I scored a 95 on the test.

[NYPD3737]

I got one too. Hopefully they hire more than 5 guys.

[riese]

I checked and got a 95. I've taken so many tests in the last two years or so I keep mixing them up. I'm going to send it in. I'll see at orientation what the schedule for testing is. If anyone knows at least how long from the letter to the "Interiew" I'd really appreciate it. The letter says once they get to our score we will setup an interview and have an orientation. Doesn't say anything else. Its ok though given I'm used to be considered a "Meat Stick."

As far a the "Specialty Units" I know I shouldn't hold my breth. Its just that the SCDS Department has those units unlike my current Department and it would take almost 2 hours a day off my commute a day.

Thanks everyone and good luck to all.


I got the same letter. I scored 95. Mine says the same as yours. This is now the 2nd letter from the sheriffs office.


Riese there isnt a grade of 97.5 on that test. Only 105,100 and 95 and so on. If you got a 95 your list number is 106.

[Natsirt01]

it also said be ready to bring $75 for finger printing

[NYPD3737]

My friend is on SCPD and says that they will probably have us in for orientation in a month or so and then the physical tests shortly after that. Thats what they did for Suffolk cops anyway.

[ohyeah]

Why did we get two letters? Are we going to wait a few more months and get a third? I was told by a sheriff that they were def hiring in the spring or summer at the latest...not sure how many they are going to hire though. :confused:

[Kannons610]

I am just guessing but I would say we got to letters to thin out the pool of people. I think they sent the first letter to all the people who got a 95 and above. Those who responded that they were interested received a second letter. Those who responded yes to the second letter will get called for orientation. I think they just wanted to narrow down the field and both letters gave them a chance to do that. I think each time people responded no to one of the letters they got eliminated from contention for the first set of possible job openings. If someone knows if I am wrong please correct me. It's just an educated guess.

[Highwaylaw]

Why did we get two letters? Are we going to wait a few more months and get a third? I was told by a sheriff that they were def hiring in the spring or summer at the latest...not sure how many they are going to hire though. :confused:

Just a tip to keep you from embarassing yourself at the wrong time and i/f/o the wrong people...there is only ONE Sheriff. Everyone else in the organization is a Deputy Sheriff, and referred to as Deputy.

[Kannons610]

Where can I find the physical fitness requirements for the Suffolk County Deputy Sheriffs?

[ohyeah]

I believe it's the same as the Suffolk police.

http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/documents/fitness.pdf

[gator22b]

I had a 95, now have a 100 with vet's credits, and I've heard alot of the same rumors that everyone else has. To speculate-the rumors HAVE to have some truth to them. The County wouldn't spend the money on Orientations and letters if they weren't planning on hiring soon. Everything is tentative obviously but it looks good. Civil Service told me to expect a letter certified mail for the orientation in the next couple of weeks. ANyone hear the same? Let's keep this forum alive! ALso, what's the duty weapon? I think I see Glock, want to say 19s but is that the only duty weapon allowed or is it flexible from a list like the city. Just wondering.

[Nero22]

When was this test given and when is the next one? There are corrections officer positions on the website but they seem to just be based on an application and not a test, can that be right?

[NYPD3737]

I had a 95, now have a 100 with vet's credits, and I've heard alot of the same rumors that everyone else has. To speculate-the rumors HAVE to have some truth to them. The County wouldn't spend the money on Orientations and letters if they weren't planning on hiring soon. Everything is tentative obviously but it looks good. Civil Service told me to expect a letter certified mail for the orientation in the next couple of weeks. ANyone hear the same? Let's keep this forum alive! ALso, what's the duty weapon? I think I see Glock, want to say 19s but is that the only duty weapon allowed or is it flexible from a list like the city. Just wondering.

Someone at that office told me the same thing about the certified letter in 2 weeks or so. I got a 95

[gator22b]

Yea I wonder how long it's going to take to get through the whole process or if anyone else has any news on classes and such. I've been asking everyone I can think of through e-mail or in person and can't get a straight answer. So unfortunately, for now I must assume based upon the pattern that things look exponentially better than they did 5 months ago.

[ohyeah]

Why would they canvass the 95's...I've heard that they only plan on hiring 5 or 10. The Sheriff's department already hired 2 city cops before the new year for budgeting reasons

[gator22b]

Well, for one, everything is here-say. They obviously wouldn't have canvassed over 350 people for 5 positions. But for the sake of being open minded, they would canvass that many either due to procedure, equal opportunity or because they want to account for the possibility of a high attrition rate through the hiring process. OR, they're going to process everyone they can for the near, or not-so distant future classes that may, or may not be planned.

BUT I did just talk to 4 Deputies who were evicting a neighbor and they haven't heard a thing about hiring. In fact, the rumors they hear revolve around layoffs. SO, no one seems to know what's going on. Including Deputies in the Office. Either the good Sheriff is keeping things tightly wrapped, or no one, including the Sheriff knows what's going on. We're going to have keep our fingers crossed and stay positive if you ask me. Eventually we'll get picked up by something. Negativity is contagious. There's enough of that on CNN. Let's try to keep things positive. for everyone's sake.

The plans may be to hire only 10 deputies today. Tomorrow they could want 100. Roll with the tide and hope for the best and in the end we'll see whether or not we're in the academy or somewhere else.

[NYPD3737]

Well, for one, everything is here-say. They obviously wouldn't have canvassed over 350 people for 5 positions. But for the sake of being open minded, they would canvass that many either due to procedure, equal opportunity or because they want to account for the possibility of a high attrition rate through the hiring process. OR, they're going to process everyone they can for the near, or not-so distant future classes that may, or may not be planned.

BUT I did just talk to 4 Deputies who were evicting a neighbor and they haven't heard a thing about hiring. In fact, the rumors they hear revolve around layoffs. SO, no one seems to know what's going on. Including Deputies in the Office. Either the good Sheriff is keeping things tightly wrapped, or no one, including the Sheriff knows what's going on. We're going to have keep our fingers crossed and stay positive if you ask me. Eventually we'll get picked up by something. Negativity is contagious. There's enough of that on CNN. Let's try to keep things positive. for everyone's sake.

The plans may be to hire only 10 deputies today. Tomorrow they could want 100. Roll with the tide and hope for the best and in the end we'll see whether or not we're in the academy or somewhere else.

Good answer. Theres no sense getting worked up over things we don't know. If we get hired then so be it.

[hobie24]

I recieved a 100 on the exam and got my 2nd canvass letter as well, which i mailed back shortly after. Now just hoping and waiting like the rest. How exactly does it work...if they need lets say 5 deputies do they start off at the list of 105's and then move down to the 100's or is it competition from everyone 95 and above?

[gator22b]

IF they only wanted to hire 5 (doubtful), they'd still canvass for candidate availability for future classes I'm guessing. What's the duty weapon, a 17 or a 19? And does anyone know if there is an off duty approved list or if we would be able to carry whatever we wanted within the boundaries of common sense. I'm curious.

[Natsirt01]

According the 09 operating budget and I copy & paste,

"Hire a class of 10 Deputy Sheriff’s during 2009, if possible, depending on the
Police academy schedule. An additional $184,344 would have to be included for
permanent salaries, holiday pay, uniforms, cleaning allowance,
guns/ammunition, etc. for a class of 10 to begin on September 2, 2009."

pg 28
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/legis/bro/Reports/2009/Review%20of%202009%20Rec%20SC%20OB.pdf

[Kannons610]

Hopefully Obama's economic stimulus will increase the number of officers the Sheriff's Department hires. New York received a large portion of money that was specifically set aside for law enforcement.

[gator22b]

According the 09 operating budget and I copy & paste,

"Hire a class of 10 Deputy Sheriff’s during 2009, if possible, depending on the
Police academy schedule. An additional $184,344 would have to be included for
permanent salaries, holiday pay, uniforms, cleaning allowance,
guns/ammunition, etc. for a class of 10 to begin on September 2, 2009."

pg 28
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/legis/bro/Reports/2009/Review%20of%202009%20Rec%20SC%20OB.pdf

Noted and thanks for the heads up man. One point I would like to make known. The date for that budget is October 2008. Long before the Stimulus came down. In my opinion I don't think they'd canvass so many people if they were going to continue on that route. BUT, like I said before all we can do is stay positive and encourage each other. Anyone get the Orientation letters yet?

[Natsirt01]

True that was put out in the end of 08, And was amended in 11/08. If you go to http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/legis/ then click on-line documents then budget amendments. these show what was vetoed, and overridden. the only law enforcement stuff that was amended was they added the 80 SCPD recruits, and some administrative stuff. But this will could all go out the window as its a budget and it wouldn't be the first time a government spent more then it should have and was left with a gap.

[gator22b]

Yea even when it was amended in November the stimulus hadn't passed yet. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that there will be more than 10 deputies in the class with 80 cops providing that the 80 cops haven't been overridden. The way I see it, the County Exec gets more for less with the Sheriff's Office, we start at almost half the pay of the cops if I got my math even close. And if you ask me the Office does a better job on the roads anyway. I always see Deputies helping stranded motorists, helping to change tires and such. I almost never see a Police Officer doing that. So it would make sense to hire more Deputies than Police Officers just because of cost alone. Not to mention there's shy of 250 Deputies? I know I'm close there. Highways, East end, along with fixed sites like Westhampton Airport, there's no way they plan on trying to do all of that with 250 Deputies for long. How much of a difference do you think 260 Deputies would make compared to 350 or 400? Just speculating for fun here. What's up with these Orientation letters?

[Stanger85]

Hey guys check this out...

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-posher2212678041apr21,0,4207062.story

30 possible retirements by summer. Anyone make anything of this? I scored well on this test and I'm keeping my fingers crossed too.

[Highwaylaw]

Hey guys check this out...

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-posher2212678041apr21,0,4207062.story

30 possible retirements by summer. Anyone make anything of this? I scored well on this test and I'm keeping my fingers crossed too.

NCPD has a small fleet of retirees coming up, and no plans to hire, I'd be surprised if it were any different for any agency in that area...

[SDC1983]

So does anybody really know then what it means that the Sheriff doesn't request a class but the Budget Office recommends one? Who overrides the other in a situation like that? I keep getting "interest" letters from them and then nothin.

[boxer127]

I was excited at first too when i saw that article, but when i read it again i noticed that it said the sheriffs department and not necessarrily deputies. So that could mean 30 between CO s and deputies. Hope im wrong.

[Dinosaur32]

Pretty difficult for the budget people to force an elected Sheriff to hire. Every position is fully funded for the year. Every retiree spot that is not filled is more money for the county/department to use elsewhere.

[Highwaylaw]

Pretty difficult for the budget people to force an elected Sheriff to hire. Every position is fully funded for the year. Every retiree spot that is not filled is more money for the county/department to use elsewhere.
..... and that is all up to the CE, and he is notoriously dollar conscience, to put it politely.

[gator22b]

Just got off the phone with Civil Service. I've been keeping track of them the past month, and 3 weeks ago, the list had frozen again. After calling Civil Service the other day, the list has apparently begun moving again, and new Canvass Letters are coming out, and should be in our mailboxes in the next 2 weeks. I'm assuming the re-canvass is procedure after a list freeze no matter how short it may be. Just putting it out there for all to know. Hope this canvass goes farther than just a canvass.

[Kannons610]

Thanks for the info Gator. Did Civil Service give you any indication how the re-canvass list is established. Does everyone in the 95 and up get a new canvass letter or is it only the people who sent back the first two letters saying they were interested? I had been hoping all along that with each canvass letter they were weeding people out of being called for orientation. Here's what I mean.

There are about 425 people with a score of 95 or above. After the first canvass letter say 300 sent back positive replies. Now the second canvass letter only gets sent to those 300. Now say only 250 send back positive replies. Will the third canvas letter get sent only to those 250 who have been saying they are interested all along, or does each canvass letter go out to all people in the eligible score range? Anybody know how it works?

[gator22b]

I don't honestly know how they're going to conduct the next canvass. I was only told that initial canvass letters were being re-sent within the next 10 days. I'm not going to get a wheel turning on speculation, but if no one else will, I'll call civil service tomorrow before going into work. I'd really want to know if anyone knows if this is for real or is this another county circle jerk. Everyone I talk to says this is a really good job so it's worth the wait, but hopefully the bean counters stop screwing around with us over it. I guess time will tell.

[ohyeah]

If you want to know if the sheriff's are hiring then call the sheriff's office, not civil service. Civil Service is responsible for establishing lists. Once they have a certified list they send it to the sheriff's office and it's out of civil service's hands. Civil Service has NO idea if the Deputy Sheriff's, Corrections, Suffolk Police, Park police, etc. are hiring and how many.

[Highwaylaw]

If you want to know if the sheriff's are hiring then call the sheriff's office, not civil service. Civil Service is responsible for establishing lists. Once they have a certified list they send it to the sheriff's office and it's out of civil service's hands. Civil Service has NO idea if the Deputy Sheriff's, Corrections, Suffolk Police, Park police, etc. are hiring and how many.

.... which means call the CE's office, because no one in county govt does anything with out his ok

[gator22b]

And my question now is.... Would anyone realistically get a straight answer from the CE's office? :insert drum roll here:

[Kannons610]

I got my third canvass letter today in the mail for the SCSD. Pretty much the same as the last one.

[ohyeah]

why? why? why? why? why? wh wh wh why? why? wh wh why? why? why? letters why? why? why?

[gator22b]

It's just procedure man. I know, tedious-But at least we're moving in the right direction. I got my Canvass today as well. It's going out first thing Monday. Just play the game fellas and we'll see where the game takes us.

[threewishes]

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[SDC1983]

Didn't get anything today, but maybe just because I'm alittle out east and the mail takes little longer... if I don't get anything by Monday I'm gonna call. I replied yes to the last two...

[CAnde]

Didn't get anything today, but maybe just because I'm alittle out east and the mail takes little longer... if I don't get anything by Monday I'm gonna call. I replied yes to the last two...

Same sit, here. Got the last two but not this one yet.

[PBXTech]

The letter showed up today. Looks like another hurry up and wait.

[gator22b]

Hand delivered my canvass letter into civil service today. was thanked and told nothing more. Then again I didn't ask either. I guess at this point no news is good news. Anyone hear anything? I'm thinking about calling them tomorrow to ask about the certification list going to the Sheriff's Office unless someone here already has and will save me the phone call.lol

[gator22b]

Talked to Civil Service. If all goes well the eligibles' list is going to the Sheriff's Office for consideration in the next 2 weeks or so, once all the letters received by the due date are compiled.

[PBXTech]

Thanks for the update. Maybe we will make it past the first letter this time.

[gator22b]

Anyone know what the medicals, and physicals are like? What about the height and weight requirements, and flexibilities. Like, if you're overwieght but still are athletic, and don't have too much body fat are you good? Or is it rediculously strict. Just curious.

[gator22b]

Eligibles' List is still going to the Sheriff's Office this week sometime. Told to check back in later this week. Keeping it active.

[boxer127]

does that mean that the sheriffs office is going to call us for orientation.

[Highwaylaw]

Anyone know what the medicals, and physicals are like? What about the height and weight requirements, and flexibilities. Like, if you're overwieght but still are athletic, and don't have too much body fat are you good? Or is it rediculously strict. Just curious.

I understand they're very strict about spelling....

[gator22b]

I understand they're very strict about spelling....

You're funny. I work late and type fast. So more typos to follow. =) And it would be my opinion that an orientation is soon to come....I hope.

[NYPD3737]

Talked to Civil Service. If all goes well the eligibles' list is going to the Sheriff's Office for consideration in the next 2 weeks or so, once all the letters received by the due date are compiled.

The woman on the phone there told me the exact same thing last time they sent us the canvas letter. Supposedly, we should be getting a certified mail letter telling us when orientation is, then they will tell you when your physical is. I wouldn't hold my breath though. I've given up on waiting for this. Odds are they only hire 10 guys anyway and they are already picked. I saw an email from demarco with my own 2 eyes to a friend of mine saying he had a "good feeling" he would be in the next class. I'd move on with your life then if by some miracle you make it on, take the job. Don't bank on getting hired IMO.

[ohyeah]

Call the Sheriff's office (631) 852-2200

[gator22b]

... I've given up on waiting for this. Odds are they only hire 10 guys anyway and they are already picked. I saw an email from demarco with my own 2 eyes to a friend of mine saying he had a "good feeling" he would be in the next class. I'd move on with your life then if by some miracle you make it on, take the job. Don't bank on getting hired IMO.

That could literately mean anything man. try and stay positive. That negativity crap can stay on the city forums or maybe the county PD forums. It ain't over until my b***h mother (the fat lady), sings. =) They could hire 10, or they could hire 50, the fact is that they're hiring. And no one knows how many until they put an academy in.

[NYPD3737]

That could literately mean anything man. try and stay positive. That negativity crap can stay on the city forums or maybe the county PD forums. It ain't over until my b***h mother (the fat lady), sings. =) They could hire 10, or they could hire 50, the fact is that they're hiring. And no one knows how many until they put an academy in.

You are right. Nobody knows till it happens, definately hoping for the best. Good luck to you and me too.

[hobie24]

So if they end up hiring 10 do they just go down the list or is someone who got a 105 no better than someone who recieved a 95?

[gator22b]

I'm assuming you have to account for attrition through psych, med, and physicals too man. They might be rediculously strict.

[Highwaylaw]

I'm assuming you have to account for attrition through psych, med, and physicals too man. They might be rediculously strict.

...and spelling gator, don't forget spelling! :)

[gator22b]

Ahhh someone has a sense of humer, I mean humor. haha

[SupraRy]

So crazy these NYS Sheriff positions, 1000 applicants for 10 spots. Blows my mind. Upstate is brutal here.

[gator22b]

There's a such thing as a NYS Sheriff? Didn't know that. In any case, it's a county job, not state. Hard to compete with nonetheless but worth every grueling step.

[SupraRy]

There's a such thing as a NYS Sheriff? Didn't know that. In any case, it's a county job, not state. Hard to compete with nonetheless but worth every grueling step.

I worded that wrong, sorry.

The counties in my area its near impossible to get hired on without a 100 on the exam, or having an immediate family member in the department.

[gator22b]

eligibles list is still at civil service. Still being told it's going over at the end of the week.haha. That's almost a month in the making now....ANyone hear any rumors?

[Kannons610]

I spoke to a deputy today who told me that he heard they were trying to lay off four bodies unless the union makes concessions. Just some info, although not that good.

[gator22b]

the eligible's list went over to the Office yesterday morning. I was told to expect the orientation letter within the next two weeks. Good News =)

[PBXTech]

the eligible's list went over to the Office yesterday morning. I was told to expect the orientation letter within the next two weeks. Good News =)


Good news. Thanks for the update.

[boxer127]

I think someone at civil service is pulling your leg. Im not disputing the fact of getting a letter for orientation in a couple of weeks, but i have a very reliable source that says the sheriffs office already has the list of eligible candidates for 95s and above.

[SDC1983]

I would think that if they're going to go for an Academy class in September, they're going to have to start this process within the next week or so, max. Their starting to really push it timewise if they do intend to hire.

[gator22b]

boxer PM me, I'm curious.

[gator22b]

Got my Orientation Seminar Letter today! 6 July, 0830 Sharp. Upon confirming receipt of the letter with the Office, was told that they're moving to process a class, but they wouldn't specify on size, or date. Still good news. See you there

[PBXTech]

Got my Orientation Seminar Letter today! 6 July, 0830 Sharp. Upon confirming receipt of the letter with the Office, was told that they're moving to process a class, but they wouldn't specify on size, or date. Still good news. See you there


Congrats. Nothing in my mailbox today. Maybe there not calling 95s this time around?

[gator22b]

I don't know, I originally had a 95 and then got my score adjusted for a 100 after Veteran's Credits. The letter didn't state the score anywhere that I could tell. It's still 3 good weeks away or so, my letter was dated the 11th, so anything is possible? I'll keep the fingers crossed though-I'm stoked-at least something is moving somewhere.

[gator22b]

But now the suspense is really killing me on class size and such. I think that could be the only downside to this whole thing. But the rumors of the Office getting the Marine Bureau and possibly the Aviation units could prove optimistic. I guess we won't know until the 6th. Any new rumors? I know for a fact that SCPD hasn't said or done **** with their list. Poor guys who got a 107 haven't heard anything. My buddy got a 100 and nothing. That too, might be optimistic? I mean, with no cops in the academy maybe that'll leave more room for us? =)

[Kannons610]

Congrats Gator! If anybody else gets a letter please post what score you got. I don't know if they sent them to people who got 95's. I didn't receive one today. Thanks.

[MTAhopeful]

what list number are they upto?

[PBXTech]

what list number are they upto?


List numbers 1 and 7 as of right now.

1=105
7=100
106=95

[2grit]

Hey guys I received a letter today as well. Score 100 and list #7

[Kannons610]

I just spoke with the Sheriff's Office. I was told that only people with scores of 100 or better received orientation letters. The deputy told me that they are probably only hiring a limited number of deputies, however because they are still waiting to find out how much federal bail out money they are going to receive, the size of the upcoming class is unknown. Congrats to those who got a 100 or better. Please keep the rest of us updated on what's going on after the orientation on July 6.

[gator22b]

will do I guess everything and anything goes with these people. I wonder if the PD's supposed possible cutbacks are going to have any positive bearing on our class situation. Afraid to speculate, but almost can't help myself. =)

[SDC1983]

Depending on when they get the money, would they think about including the 95s. The classes are usually around September so if the money comes too close to date then it'll probably be too late to add on for this year.

Not good news for us 95s but I guess it is what it is for now.

[boxer127]

They could still possibly call 95s for this class, thats what they did with corrections. They called 100s and 95s first and then like six months later started processing the 90s and neither groups have got into the academy yet. So after they weed out alot of the 105s and 100s they might call the 95s before they put a class in.

[gator22b]

Anyone know the physical requirements? And what's the Psych like? Same as the city or no? I've heard several things. I'm kinda curious because you never hear too much about the Deputies' process. I'm assuming some of the Correction guys can assist here?

[gator22b]

The physical requirements are all the same for any police officer position in Suffolk County (inc. Corrections). You can find them on the Suffolk County website and probably several other threads on this board. The 20-19yr Male requirements are 29 Pushups, 38 Situps (1 min) and a 1.5 mile run in under 12.29

Never mind, got this off of the thread about Levy jamming up the PD. Still curious about the Psych though

[Natsirt01]

I'd imagine the psych is like most other dpt, I have however heard their is no polygraph.

[gator22b]

They're voting on PD cuts today. I wonder if it's going to have any bearing on us...

My Prayers go out to the Brothers and families of the two Officers killed in two separate MVAs yesterday. Absolutely heart breaking to hear about life being snuffed out like that.

[gator22b]

Police Cuts got curbed. Good for them. Anyone hear anything interesting in terms of classes?

[gator22b]

Orientation on Monday! Hope everyone got their money orders by yesterday...

[Curious2008]

How was orientation?

[gator22b]

It was long, and the process seems to be moving rather quickly, with an anticipated high attrition rate. Although I couldn't help but smirk at how he said that there were only 6 slots for the academy and 50 of us were fighting for it. If that were the case I don't think they'd have been so lenient with some people by letting them go out and get the money orders they were supposed to have before walking in the door. Also I couldn't help but notice that the same rumor of 6 were rolling around the Park Police forums.haha I guess none of us will truly know until we start getting called. The whole process still has a slight shroud of secrecy to it even though they laid out alot of information today. As of now those who succeed in getting their packets in on time will be taking the physical agility test later this month. I'm nervous but also extremely excited =)

[Kannons610]

Thanks for the information gator. Please keep us updated as you continue in the process. I am very surprised that there were only 50 people there considering that 106 people scored a 100 or better on the test. What are the requirements for the physical agility test? I wasn't sure if they changed from the 38 sit-ups/1 minute, 29 push-ups/1 minute, & 1.5 mile run/12:50. Thanks again for keeping us updated.

[gator22b]

the push up and sit ups are right, the run is 12:29. hear about the **** in the city? Hope that doesn't happen here

[gator22b]

Update: Handing in the background packet today went well. Some people weren't prepared from what I could overhear through the door. All the Investigators are cool for the most part, the one I sat down with was very nice, and professional. All business. See you all on the 27th for the PAT! Anyone hear rumors of an academy class? Apparently the rumor is that Corrections is going in the spring, and I'm not sure if we will be tying in with them or if we do our own thing for the Deputy Process.

[Highwaylaw]

Update: Handing in the background packet today went well. Some people weren't prepared from what I could overhear through the door. All the Investigators are cool for the most part, the one I sat down with was very nice, and professional. All business. See you all on the 27th for the PAT! Anyone hear rumors of an academy class? Apparently the rumor is that Corrections is going in the spring, and I'm not sure if we will be tying in with them or if we do our own thing for the Deputy Process.

Deps and CO academy are separate. Deps (by definition) have full police status, CO's are peace officers.
To the best of my knowledge there are no plans for a Suffolk PD class so it will ibe interesting to see where SCDS recruits are sent for the academy.

[Curious2008]

The physical is the 27th? That was quick.

Did they say how many chances you have to pass the physical?

[gator22b]

two. everything is appealable. If you fail on the 27th, then you get 30 days to pass for a second time. ALot of the process is cloaked in a bit of mystery. I don't think they want to say anything for sure because word has it they're waiting on grant money? I don't know-all speculation at this point. But the PAT is being given by POLICE Department instructors. The Deputy Investigators are there just to monitor. I don't think that a lack of Police recruits is going to matter man. Also, while waiting on the interview, a Deputy came by and asked if we were there for the Deputy openings, and when we said yes he replied with a 'Good, we're hurtin' out there'... ANd that's what I know.

[Highwaylaw]

Also, while waiting on the interview, a Deputy came by and asked if we were there for the Deputy openings, and when we said yes he replied with a 'Good, we're hurtin' out there'... ANd that's what I know.[/QUOTE]


....hmmm, sounds like maybe they should give back what isn't theirs..... :D

[gator22b]

Well, sounds like if they're on it, it's pretty much theirs-whether the PD likes it or not. haha. And IF the PD ever gets the highways back, then it'll be theirs. Until then, I'm only here to share advice on the process, not get into a debate about who should be where. Levy decides that, no matter how much people whine about it.lol He won't be in office forever, and when he isn't maybe then things will change. On another note...

In the packet, the 5 references that had to be listed if any of you recall-didn't have to meet the same criteria as the 2 notarized ones, (i.e NYS resident). I listed several out of state references. How would they handle contacting them? Just a phone call or should I tell them to expect a visit? Anyone on here been through the county investigation process before? Or any one like it? Just curious. I don't think any of them are expecting much more than a phone call. Should I tell them to expect more than that? THe references I'm referring to are way beyond the 50 mile radius of NY/NYC.

[gator22b]

Oh, and I heard that the PD either lost, or is losing the Warrant Squad. The rumors about them also losing the Marine Bureau keep surfacing as well. Might be good news for us. Just remembered now with that last comment on the Highways. But yes, now I'm back to solely being here to share info on the process.

[Highwaylaw]

[Levy decides that, no matter how much people whine about it.


Actually, the NYS PERB will decide that, and from what I hear, its looking quite good for the PD.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, btw. Good luck with the process, and remember that no matter who you end up working for in this county, the Ce's only real interest is the CE himself.

[gator22b]

Can't disagree with you there. The CE is like a bad dog, your friend one minute and the next he's chewing on you.

Anyone got a clue on my question about the references?

[Curious2008]

Good luck and let us know how it goes tomorrow.

[gator22b]

Things went well, started the day at 42, down to roughly 26. Medicals are scheduled for those who passed the PAT in the first 2 weeks of August. More paperwork, and more running around. Worth the hope of a shot though.

[SDC1983]

Things went well, started the day at 42, down to roughly 26. Medicals are scheduled for those who passed the PAT in the first 2 weeks of August. More paperwork, and more running around. Worth the hope of a shot though.

Ya know, when I took the PAT for Suffolk going back anumber of years, there was something like a 75% to almost an 80% failure rate. Earlier this year when they were doing the PAT for Parks and Seasonal though, just like it looks like with the Deps, there seems to be more and more people making it through then normal. Same test, obviously. I guess more people are just in better shape these days?

[TheAnimal]

Could be that people are more prepared nowadays, hearing things like that (most people fail) will make you train that much harder

[gator22b]

Yea, I definitely wasn't failing. I didn't care if while running I **** out a kidney. There was no way I was failing. Medical is in two weeks, it also said to be prepared for a possible psych the same day? Anyone care to shed light on this?

[gator22b]

Wow looks like we're out of luck in the Grant department guys...

[Highwaylaw]

Wow looks like we're out of luck in the Grant department guys...

No $ for ANY Long Island law enforcement agencies. Bet that ticket surcharge is looking pretty good to Steve Levy right now....

[TheAnimal]

No $ for ANY Long Island law enforcement agencies. Bet that ticket surcharge is looking pretty good to Steve Levy right now....

And that BETTER go to SCPD to pay for HP getting back on the highways, unless that was another lie by little Stevie.

[Highwaylaw]

And that BETTER go to SCPD to pay for HP getting back on the highways, unless that was another lie by little Stevie.

It would be a nice boost to the county coffers, the PERB is going extraordinarily well for the PD regardless....

[gator22b]

Yea well your favorite newspaper confirms what the rumor mill has been buzzing about. Looks like you're losing the Warrant Squad. Stop hijacking an information forum to turn this into another rant about the PD getting the shaft. I for one am here to share information on the Sheriff's Deputy process-not debate about who should be on the highways. No one cares about the PERB, Levy, or who sits where. Make your own forum

[PBXTech]

26 people and 6 spots. I wonder how many are current NYPD. With the county trying to save money, current NYPD officers moving over to Suffolk County Sheriff only have to do a 2 week academy. Thats a major savings and a really fast turn around.

[Highwaylaw]

[QUOTE=gator22b;1924043]Yea well your favorite newspaper confirms what the rumor mill has been buzzing about. Looks like you're losing the Warrant Squad. Stop hijacking an information forum to turn this into another rant about the PD getting the shaft.

^^^^ Isn't that what you just did? I have not mentioned Warrant Sqd., and by the way, reading comprehension is an integral part of police work. The paper said Dormer ASKED the Sheriff to take over Warrants. It said nothing about whether or not that actually took place (btw, it did not.)
Dormer was GRILLED by the Public Safety Committee today, the clock is ticking....
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread....

[gator22b]

yes, you're absolutely right-either way, good luck with the PERB, no one's trying to measure penis size. You're the only one on the thread doing that. The rest of us are just trying to get a job. Got any tips? If not, please keep it nice. Obviously you're PD, don't take your ire out on us. No one's doubting that you got ****ed by the system. If I were in your boots I'd be ****ed too. But everyone has a history and a story. Believe me, threads don't represent who your talking to or what experience they have. So not trying to keep hard feelings. ALSO, Not sure how many PD guys are in the process but I know at least one started, not sure if he made it on Monday. Also probably have to account for diversity too-We do have females in the process so you have to think they're going to hire at least one of them. :Shrugs: I guess time will tell. See you at the medical.

[CAnde]

26 people and 6 spots. I wonder how many are current NYPD. With the county trying to save money, current NYPD officers moving over to Suffolk County Sheriff only have to do a 2 week academy. Thats a major savings and a really fast turn around.

Really? Might have to give the civil service dept. a call.

[PBXTech]

Really? Might have to give the civil service dept. a call.

While your on the phone ask them about the 2 Deputy Sheriffs they hired when they picked up the highway.

[2grit]

Hey guys just received my appointment for the written Psychological in the mail today. It's Friday 8/14 at 9:30 AM.

[gator22b]

Got my psych letter yesterday as well, same time and place. Went in to the PIB today and filled out a questionnaire that seemed to be the set up for a polygraph. Asked some questions about my pistol permit, and some explanations of answers to the questionnaire. Didn't seem to be too many issues. Anyone hear if the Office is getting grant money from another program other than COPS or not? I heard rumors of Homeland money coming to them as well. But they're very vague-not holding my breath.

[Kannons610]

I thought that only Suffolk County Police recruits had to take a polygraph. Deputies have to take one too?

[gator22b]

Looks like it. I don't know if the questionnaire is going to lead to a polygraph but it was mentioned in the packet. Guess we'll figure it all out soon enough.

[CAnde]

While your on the phone ask them about the 2 Deputy Sheriffs they hired when they picked up the highway.

Negative, K

Civil service dept. thought I was joking around or something, they've never heard anything about that, or a shortened academy for NYPD. Perhaps a call to the actual Sheriff's office would help enlighten the situation.

[PBXTech]

Negative, K

Civil service dept. thought I was joking around or something, they've never heard anything about that, or a shortened academy for NYPD. Perhaps a call to the actual Sheriff's office would help enlighten the situation.

A few months back they hired 2 deputy sheriffs.I found this information out from my Corrections BI. A family friend works for SCPD and deals with the academy. He told me about the shortened academy. They are watching every move the Sheriffis office is making. If you find my information is incorrect I apologize in advance. I never post any information unless I hear it from different sources that I trust. Good luck with your process.

[gator22b]

I completely agree about the PD following every step with the Sheriff. When I was going through my investigation for my Pistol Permit, everyone in the Licensing Office was asking me questions about what was going on. There is a shortened academy for the PD, not sure about the Sheriff. I asked the PD about it since I'm on both lists, and they said you just go through the portion of the academy that has to do with the departmental procedures, paperwork and codes. I'm going in for the med on Monday, anyone on here go already? I heard it was a little hectic.

[Highwaylaw]

I completely agree about the PD following every step with the Sheriff. When I was going through my investigation for my Pistol Permit, everyone in the Licensing Office was asking me questions about what was going on. There is a shortened academy for the PD, not sure about the Sheriff. I asked the PD about it since I'm on both lists, and they said you just go through the portion of the academy that has to do with the departmental procedures, paperwork and codes. I'm going in for the med on Monday, anyone on here go already? I heard it was a little hectic.

Gator, more specifics in your post is needed. Both the PD and Sheriff do pistol licensing, which were you at? The PD handles it within the Police Disitrict, the Sheriff for the eastern towns, etc.
To clarify what I KNOW,there is NO abbreviated Academy for the SCPD, regardless of your previous law enforcement experince. The last few academy classes had former NYPD Lt.'s in them, and they had to go through the entire academy start to finish just like anyone else.
I have heard that the Sheriff put through some NYPD guys w/out a full academy, just a few weeks of procedural and paperwork training, but I cannot confirm that.

[gator22b]

It was the PD Pistol Licensing Bureau in Headquarters in Yaphank, next door to the PLB. Every cop I've spoken to about it has mentioned that if you're a deputy who gets called for PD, you don't have to repeat the academy in full because a majority of the academy is the same for both agencies, you just go through the portion that is departmental specific like codes, paperwork, procedures etc. But everything's in the breeze. I'm sure it's been done discreetly by both Sheriff and PD...

[SDC1983]

I would believe that once you go through the Suffolk Academy once for any police agency, you wouldn't have to repeat the whole thing again for another Suffolk agency. However I never heard of the same being said for NYPD guys though. I'm pretty sure in Nassau the city guys have to go through the entire thing at least, maybe Suffolk doesn't.

[Highwaylaw]

I misunderstood. NYPD has to go through the the entire SCPD academy. I really don't know what the procedure is if you went thru SCPD academy for an outside agency within Suffolk and then get hired by SCPD. It would seem logical that you would not have to repeat the entire thing, but then again it would seem logical that the Police Commisioner would work to improve his department , not destroy it, so who the hell knows....

[gator22b]

Hey Highway PM me.

[CAnde]

A few months back they hired 2 deputy sheriffs.I found this information out from my Corrections BI. A family friend works for SCPD and deals with the academy. He told me about the shortened academy. They are watching every move the Sheriffis office is making. If you find my information is incorrect I apologize in advance. I never post any information unless I hear it from different sources that I trust. Good luck with your process.

I wasn't disagreeing with your info, I was just stating that the people in civil service office have no idea or at least claim to have no idea. I do believe you b/c I have heard similar from sources too, I just wanted to check with the county, I think I just asked the wrong people. I'll pm next week when i hear back from the Sheriff's office.

[gator22b]

Talked to the PIB yesterday to inform them of an employment change, asked about the Polygraph and was told that at this time there is none.