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Till
03-05-2009, 04:38 PM
Just how difficult is it?

Just came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYC8EBU7tVk&feature=related) video and wondering if it was an accurate depiction of trying to bust a window using a baton (or thumpin' flashlight) or if the Bust-A-Cap ads are rigged or altered somehow.

MCSD241
03-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Just how difficult is it?

Just came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYC8EBU7tVk&feature=related) video and wondering if it was an accurate depiction of trying to bust a window using a baton (or thumpin' flashlight) or if the Bust-A-Cap ads are rigged or altered somehow.

Well, I can tell you that a full-size Streamlight polymer flashlight won't break it...I tried. I then used my ASP closed and jammed it into the window, it broke then. I don't think I broke a window with the ASP extended...only closed.

Till
03-05-2009, 04:44 PM
The ASP broke?

cgh6366
03-05-2009, 04:59 PM
It's tougher than most people think. I recommend the Res-Q-Me. It has both a window punch and a seat belt cutter, sits on a key chain or belt clip and pulls off when needed. It runs about $10.00.

http://www.atlasfse.com/images/Res-Q-Me%201.JPG

http://www.gadgetgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/resqme-in-action.jpg

Till
03-05-2009, 05:04 PM
Anyone had experience with the Zak-Tool glassbreakers?

Resq14
03-05-2009, 05:34 PM
They work.

I carry a res-q-me clipped to my duty bag, a res-q-wrench in my duty bag, and a life hammer in the car. I think the res-q-me is the way to go, since it's so small and simple and can cut a seatbelt. Although the ASP baton glass breaking cap or the bust-a-cap seem like good ideas.

Tempered glass (sides, rear) will shatter with a small, focused force. It requires a lot more blunt force than you would think. Sometimes the fractured glass will remain in place, so it's useful to have a baton (or big flashlight or long gun) ready to clear it out after the initial pop. I'd recommend wearing gloves and glasses too.

The windshield is laminated safety glass... you won't be going through that without a saw or cutters.

RoadKingTrooper
03-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Side glass is harder to break since it floats in the frame. Back glass is easier but you must strike near a corner instead of the center.

Years ago I had a head on that I needed to go in the back window. Beat on the back glass with my Maglite, then PR24. Got the lug wrench out of the trunk. Swung it so that the sharp part of the wrench hit the corner of the glass and it broke.

cgh6366
03-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Or the "street" version, get a spark plug

Resq14
03-05-2009, 05:57 PM
or break the antenna off the car and snap it onto the glass

hxd
03-05-2009, 05:58 PM
It's all about focusing as much energy as possible into the smallest point possible and not letting it flex. Yes, glass will flex. If you strike closest to a corner, particularly a framed one, the glass doesn't flex as much and will be more prone to break. You need to use direct force instead of a glancing blow.

I've ripped AM/FM antennas off cars and used them to break windows in the past. It's a cool trick to show your friends once you get the technique down.

opskmallory
03-05-2009, 07:53 PM
I just broke glass a couple of weeks ago on a traffic accident with the driver pinned. Used my 21" ASP extended. One good whack punched a hole through the passenger side back seat door window. From there the rest was cake.

In the 2.5 years I've been a cop, that's the first time I've actually deployed my ASP for any reason.

rgv_cop
03-05-2009, 10:28 PM
I just ran across some videos last night on policeone of the www.bustacap.net
Looks like it replaces the base of an ASP or Streamlight. I'm actually thinking of getting one.

Groove
03-06-2009, 01:15 AM
My only issue with that video is the guy is just lightly twirling that baton around for the strikes and when he tried to hammer it he isn't putting much behind it. I'm only a CO so I have never had to break a windown before but I sure have been under the influence of adrenaline. Wouldn't an officer who is working with an adrenaline dump be able to smash the window? Just don't limp wrist it like that guy in the video.

Blkside
03-06-2009, 03:39 AM
I ordered a ResQMe but why doesnt anyone just keep a springloaded centerpunch. I have some that fit in my pocket. Guaranteed to shatter glass.

COASTIE01
03-06-2009, 10:53 AM
or break the antenna off the car and snap it onto the glass

You beat me to it.....This actually works well. Just put the antenna flat against the window pull the tip back and let it smack the window.

Till
03-06-2009, 02:24 PM
Another thing that may discredit the video is there are numerous instances on (insert reality cop show) where somebody's car window is shattered with an ASP.

Nightshifter
03-07-2009, 01:45 PM
Here is what I carry and it has been used a couple of times. Worked great each time. I also use it as my primary cuff key.

http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2609.php

Mabbottusmc
03-07-2009, 01:48 PM
I have a window punch on my M&P pocket knife. I heard it works great. Never used it. I have used a mag light before. That took 7 or 8 hits as hard as I could.

Flashaholic
03-09-2009, 01:19 AM
ASP BreakAway (http://asp-net.com/bookpages/pdf/020.pdf)

XCape Cap (http://www.xcapecap.com/products.html)

Monty Ealerman
03-09-2009, 02:03 AM
Insert your S&W M-100 key into one of the cuffs, turn it all the way toward the near side, get a good solid grip on the cuffs, slam the secondary lock engage pin at the top of the key hard into the glass at the corner of the side or rear window (one way to do this is to hold the pin against the glass and then hammer-fist or heel-of-palm-strike the frame directly opposite the key with the other hand), and the window will likely crack/break/smash.

DarksideNV
03-12-2009, 06:21 PM
My Diamondwood works perfect. Shatters on the first strike. I've seen extended ASP's just bounce off the windows.

Resq14
03-12-2009, 06:45 PM
Insert your S&W M-100 key into one of the cuffs, turn it all the way toward the near side, get a good solid grip on the cuffs, slam the secondary lock engage pin at the top of the key hard into the glass at the corner of the side or rear window (one way to do this is to hold the pin against the glass and then hammer-fist or heel-of-palm-strike the frame directly opposite the key with the other hand), and the window will likely crack/break/smash.

A+ for creativity and resourcefulness!

Steelers5
03-12-2009, 06:49 PM
Or the "street" version, get a spark plug
aka ninja rocks :D




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RXBxeXU3sM&feature=related

Phelan
03-13-2009, 12:19 AM
Take this and the carglass is broken:

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:WQi1LMsBJIQCoM:http://firefighter-24.de/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/300_0.jpg

I have this in my dutybag.:D

markdh720
03-13-2009, 01:40 AM
I have broken a couple windows with my extended ASP. I have also seen it bouce off the glass a couple times too. I will admit that the couple of times that it worked, I was more pumped up due to the situation and might have swung it a little harder. Where there's a will, there's a way. ;) Believe me when i say that a brick or large rock will do in a jiffy too.

hattrick0313
03-13-2009, 03:29 PM
Window Punch Rescue knife (http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm/pid_390_emergency_entrance_kit/)


AS a F/F this is a great tool to use. I have a set. Pretty cheap. Knife is great. And the window punch is spring loaded.

Ie all u do is press the point end on the window until it break. Not hard or to long.

Zamkn
03-13-2009, 05:59 PM
I just broke glass a couple of weeks ago on a traffic accident with the driver pinned. Used my 21" ASP extended. One good whack punched a hole through the passenger side back seat door window. From there the rest was cake.

In the 2.5 years I've been a cop, that's the first time I've actually deployed my ASP for any reason.

I deploy the asp quite a bit. I also have the bust-a-cap end on it, but I have not deployed it in its designed usage yet.

Ten10
03-14-2009, 01:43 PM
I've taken out some tough security glass with my extended ASP. If your jacked up enough, it will work.

Groove
03-17-2009, 12:56 AM
I can't believe no one has mentioned the best and most efficient tool for smashing a car window. Your elbow. I just saw Jack Bauer do it and it was quick, easy, efficient, caused no injury and was very stealthy. Hope that settles the debate.

dbphotos
03-17-2009, 03:59 AM
The important thing is to hit a corner of the window and not dead center.

Till
03-17-2009, 02:07 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned the best and most efficient tool for smashing a car window. Your elbow. I just saw Jack Bauer do it and it was quick, easy, efficient, caused no injury and was very stealthy. Hope that settles the debate.

That caught my attention last night on 24, too.

Jack Bauer could peel the roof off a car without injury or difficulty.

Red Swan
03-17-2009, 04:30 PM
good hit with baton, or even a screw driver tap works for side and rear windows, windshield u all most need a glass saw. I have took out a semi windshield with my 21 inch asp, but it took alot of work and kicking with foot, and it ruined my end cap on baton. but safed trapped driver from fire

I suggest if ur local fire department has auto extraction training you attend you can learn lots.

phillyrube
03-17-2009, 06:26 PM
Or the "street" version, get a spark plug

I always amazed new detectives, when we went out to the local junk ya..., I mean, automotive reclamation and recycling center, pick up some broken porcelain and break a window with no sound. I got a few convictions for Burglary Tools when we caught kids breaking into cars and they had crushed porcelain in their pockets.

Corbs
03-20-2009, 07:02 PM
Hi,

I have been told by an auto-rescue technician that the best thing for breaking windows is an automatic centre-punch.

They should be available at hardware stores and on the net too.

Also, when hitting the windscreen with your ASP, aim for the top of the steering wheel.

Corbs

S.O.444
03-22-2009, 06:02 PM
I carry one of these in my pocket while on-duty.

http://galls.com/jpegs/344716.jpg

If I lose it or need something else, I also have a few ninja rocks in my tool kit in my trunk.